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This is a Global Player original podcast. This is exciting.
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It is exciting.
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We've never done a competition on the podcast before, Vogue, but that is about to change.
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The prize is this. It's you.
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On Saturday 18th of October 2025. Just in case anyone was querying the year, you'll be coming to the event of Apollo in London with two tickets to my soldad show Pedophile. Then you'll come backstage and have a drink at Vogue.
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And I you also, by the way, you'll also get a night in a hotel near the event of Apollo and we're going to throw in £150 cash towards your travel costs.
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That's very generous of us.
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Also, wait. Oh, well, I'm sorry about this. Also a ghosted merch bundle and a copy of Big Mouth thrown in. Why not?
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The competition is to help raise money for Global's Make Some Noise, which funds vital, life changing projects across the uk, delivered by small local charities with the aim of making sure nobody is left facing life's toughest challenges alone.
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Projects tackle a wide range of issues including bereavement, food, poverty, domestic abuse, homelessness and loneliness.
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This is only open to residents of the UK aged 18 and over and who are based in the UK at the time of entry.
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For your chance to win for you and a friend to grab a drink with us, then two tickets to see Joanne's Pedophile show on Saturday 18th October 2025 at the event of Apollo in London. Text Ghost g h o s t to 822 00.
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By entering, you'll have the chance to make a voluntary five pound donation which will be added to your phone bill. 100% goes to Global's Make Some Noise.
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You've got until 10am on Monday 13th October. To enter, keep your phone handy, we may be calling you.
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I went to go and get my flu jab last week and they sneered at me. I was far too early, I'm way too excited about getting it. And they were like, sorry, not available yet.
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Do you mean early life or early in the season? Because I would assume it was early in life. I thought they'd be like, come back when you're 58, 60.
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It's early in the season, supposedly. I go to somewhere where you have to pay for it, so I don't put any pressure on the nhs, if anyone wants to, and. And they refuse to take my money. They wouldn't take the goddamn money.
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It is. Surely it's. It's not even. What is it? It's September. Like, it's still hot outside. There's people in shorts and T shirts and stuff. That's very organized.
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Although this is the woman July.
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I'd go, yeah, woman who booked her panto tickets two years in advance or certainly 12 months. Yeah.
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Jesus. I haven't booked my panto tickets this year.
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I'd be on. I'd be on my deathbed from tuberculosis. And I'm like, I have to get that blue job. I'm always after the fact. Everything has to fall apart. Like, I had a fit. I had. I was on the road, I was in Plymouth, I was in between.
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Oh, I saw that Guilford and Plymouth.
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And my. One of my teeth started acting up. Remember I saying, remember I was on the pod. Anyway, turns out a filling had fallen out, but it was a. It was a temporary filling because I'm supposed to get a root canal, but obviously I haven't gone back to get the root canal, so I had to work. Everything fell apart. Then I got an emergency dentist in the middle of the night and look like a Bell's palsy for half a show because I won't do anything ahead of time. Whereas if that was you, Vogue, you'd have had a full set of new teeth done within seven days of root canal.
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I mean, particularly when it comes to teeth. I am in there. Like, that's done. There's no waiting around for the teeth. Absolutely not. I even have. Listen, I've got. I don't know if you're allowed to have it, but, like, I've got a couple of prescriptions in the, in the COVID there, just in case I have one for a uti.
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Yeah, well, you need that. Women need that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I meant to say to you, you know the way I like a bit of sci fi science. Well, science is science. Science fiction science. They're, they're, they. They think they've invented something that can regrow teeth. Careful where you put it.
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I mean, I. Yeah.
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Do you know what I mean? You know the way when you tan and then your arms are. Your hands are all brown and all. Imagine teeth going out of your palms or anywhere else.
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You'd be like a cat. Cats have spikes down there.
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Yeah.
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Clawing. Oh, no, it's the penis that has the spikes.
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When I commit to my celibacy era. I will grow a set of teeth down there just in case I decide one night to give up my sexual pioneering. I'll be like, no, no, it's no longer a safe space like a rat trap. But yeah, apparently they're saying they can regrow teeth. Would that be great news?
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I don't know if it's the best news. Like, I'd prefer if they could regrow something, like, better that we can. We don't need. Yeah, but we don't need teeth. Like, I mean, can they work on growing something? Well, we do, but we get. We don't absolutely need them. Like, I'd rather work on parts or something.
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Well, they're working. They are still working on cancer and all. Do you not remember your man? There's a. There was a. There was a Netflix series about him. It was very interesting. I watched it on a true crime track a while back and then now it's obviously it's hit Netflix because all great things do. This female journalist who dated this doctor who was ahead of his time with. With heart surgery and he was putting. What he was. He was fixing. Fixing in a vertic commas. Turns out he wasn't really fixing them. Like kind of extra kind of external bits and bobs. Picky bits into people's. He was putting picky bits into people's bodies to help fix their hearts and stuff. But it turns out he was literally going down the hardware store and like buying like valves, tubes and stuff. Yeah, putting them in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like tapping away. But his argument is I needed to push the boat because if you don't push the boat, you don't know what works. The family's argument was, you could have told us you were taking picky bits from the hardware store. And now our family's dead anyway.
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Oh, they died. So it didn't even work.
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Jesus. No, it didn't work. No, no, no, it didn't work. None of them survived us. No.
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Do you ever see those operations where doctors leave, like tea towels and inside patients you see that? It's like, how did you forget? I suppose it is a bit of a mumble jumble down there with the intestines and the size of football pitches.
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It' a sponge here and there I can understand, but like a stethoscope, you're like, come on now. I will sue.
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Did you see the.
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The story about the Dr. Risti? And it kind of. I was like, I don't know what the morals here are. The doctor who had a ride in the middle of a surgery.
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No. What do you mean? He had a ride with.
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Exactly. I know with who. I know. It's not. No, no.
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Okay, that's okay, then. That's okay.
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With the anesthetist.
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No. Once. It wasn't the patient.
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It wasn't the patient.
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That's.
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Yeah.
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It's completely acceptable if it wasn't the place. Yeah.
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Grant, why are we even talking about it?
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Why are we letting. Why? Why? Yeah. For God's sake. He could be in there 24 hours.
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He was nipping down to the hardware store to buy a bit of mop to put in the patient to soak up the blood. He was having this doctor. The surgeon was having it. He was a married man, of course, because he was having an affair with someone else who worked in the hospital. And he left the surgery mid surgery, as you do. He's like, I need to go to the bathroom. So, like, you know, sticker on pause kind of thing. I'll be back. And then bumped into his mistress in some sort of airing cupboard or plan to meter, and someone walked in and he had his pants down and he was talking himself inside his mistress. But they were like, are you not supposed to be in surgery? So, of course, then it all came out.
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Kind of sexy, isn't it?
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No.
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Anyone else turned on?
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No, I. I wouldn't deny Matt. I wouldn't. It was the loo. I don't care. I'm asleep, you know, it's not like it wasn't in the room. And he was sorry.
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You're saying you'd let somebody leave your operation? You'd be like.
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Give me a break. Yeah, I'm wrecked getting dragged around from the insides by you. Just. I'd like a little breather as well.
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Go and do what you need to do.
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Do what you need to do. Yeah. Release yourself. I do feel that men are focused more. Yeah, exactly. After he's. Well, anyway, so. Yeah, so they're kind of saying they don't know what to do with them, really, because he hasn't broken any law.
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It's just kind of bad form, public indecency.
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Well, I think he's. He's been outed anyway, so obviously he's.
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More tired, I think. Yeah, I think that would be embarrassing. But I think when men get caught wanking on camera, and it always happens where they're wanking in the wrong place. I was reading a book, and I actually thought it was real because I forgot it was a book about a guy being caught in his office wanking I just think it's. I just think it's really embarrassing to be caught wanking by anyone. For a man, like, anyone. Imagine your wife walked in, Joe. It's just like. It's so shameful.
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Donna Porter had a book, the Cows, I think.
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Yeah, Cow.
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Cow, yeah, the Cows, which was about a woman caught masturbating on a train. So women do it too?
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Yeah, I think do it everywhere. I read an article the other day that suggested especially. I mean, it was about men. They do it everywhere.
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Men. Men do.
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In hedges. Because, like, people who work outdoors, just all over the other people's houses.
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I can hold off till I'm in private. I can just. I feel like I can hold off. I can. I don't need to. Like, it would be too humid. It would be very difficult for me to come back from something like that because I'd be so embarrassed.
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I think we can. I. A woman can. Can hold off, Joe. I think that's the. I think that's ultimately the difference.
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So can a man. In fairness. You're just grim that you just want to get it out everywhere.
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Well, yeah. Is it like a scratch show? Is it like an itch? What's it like? It's like when I had rosacea. Is it like when I had eczema around my eyes? Is that what it's like?
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The way that the article put it suggested that there's just no waiting and there's. And. And. And. And why be ashamed? I think, you know, if you're in.
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Well, that's why. Exactly it.
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Come on. If you're outside in a field, come on, just be a bit ashamed. Just wait till you get home.
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Yeah, shame's not a bad, bad thing.
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No, Shame is important.
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Leave the sheep and the horses alone. Men. Sick O's. Christ.
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Anyway, before we go into bestiality, which is, you know, one of my favorite.
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Topics, I would like to deep dive bestiality, to be honest with you, because I don't know that much about it. It's strange.
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It's people shagging animals. No, I know what it is, but.
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Like, I'd like to. I'd like to understand the science behind their minds. Like, they're just lonely. Why? I don't understand why you would choose to have sex with your dog. Awesome.
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Get one on. Never live it down. Get one on this.
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Joe.
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I'd like.
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I'd like a man who has had sex with a horse on this podcast. Next week or I quit. Okay.
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Absolutely. Fine.
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Let's go for Louis.
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Yeah.
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Get one of Your mates on Joe.
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Oh, my God. I'm gonna do a whole show about bestiality, I think. Because you think, who could I pitch it at? Channel 4 would take it. I reckon Channel 4 would take that big time. I'd lose my job on the Rain.
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Yeah, you might be. You might be doing the car, the. The carpet, the anti A's, but like that, who cares? You're shining a light on bestiality, and I think that is.
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That's.
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You're doing God's work. I think that's way more important.
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It's my calling in life, really. It truly is. This is the first time that you've actually had your hair. Make it done for the pod. Remember we said we were gonna do it every time. Now you've actually. You. So Joanne called over to my house yesterday and that.
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That. Those poor children. Vogue. That was. Thank God I went down for reference. I'm not drinking at the moment, so I'm back in family mode. So I went down to visit the children to remind them who I am.
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Well, you didn't. You actually came down to save me because I was like, joanne, I've been with them all weekend on my own. I've been to three parties. I've been to swimming, gymnastics. Please take me out for a walk.
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Yeah, she needs to be saved. I was like, I'll knock in for you. Do you remember old school, the way you'd knock in? Be like, you coming out. So I knocked in for a broader out. But when I went into the house, the second I went in, Theodore was in full mode of Joanna. I was like, if you want something for me, Theodore calling me Joanna is not gonna get a feel of.
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Mommy won't let me have a snake. Joanna, will you tell Mommy to let me have a snake? And Joanna's like, yeah.
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I want to be the sound aunt. You know what I mean? I was like, yeah, what you need? I'll get you a snake. What you want? A rattlesnake? What you need?
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He's like, do you think Auntie Joanne would get me a snake? I'm like, no, she wouldn't, because I would give out. And. And he was like, well, how would she know? I was like, I've known her a long time. I've known her longer than you. Huh?
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I just want. Do you know when kids ask you for things, you don't seem that often you want to be sound. But I also don't want to interfere with parenting. And I know the children shouldn't have snakes, but. But I. I Agreed to it. Anyway, so I won't be down. I won't be going down for a while.
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She. She said hi to Johan and then she, like, she was on this thing called a dating car, and she kind of scooted over to me and she goes, why is Joanne's hair black? And I was like, what? And she's like, why is. And I was like, oscar. She goes, why is your hair black?
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I said, you want me to dye my hair blonde again, like your mama? And she said, yes.
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Yes. And then she said it to me again last night. She was like, will Joanne's hair go and not be black anym? She doesn't like your hair color.
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She hasn't hit her emo phase yet. Well, the second she hits her emo phase, me and her are going to be thick as thieves. She's in her Barbie phase at the moment.
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She's only, like, long blonde. That's all she wants. Do you know what. Do you know what she did today? She came to Run Club. I couldn't believe my eyes.
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She got all for us.
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She ran the entire way. And at the end of it. Yes. And at the end of it, one of her friends was like, oh, like, kind of laughing that she was there as well, because it is kind of interesting to know that she'd be at Run Club. And he was like, you won't. Oh, I don't know if you'll be able to do it. She said, I don't think beat him.
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You see? You don't know. We thought we had a lazy drag baby, but maybe we have a fitness sporty baby.
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Ah, well, now at the end, she said, I don't want to go to Run Club again.
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I don't blame her.
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But we'll see. I promised her a pair of running shoes and she might want to go. Then I have a new mantra in life. Do you want to hear it?
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Okay.
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I just keep saying it about everything, and I keep saying it to people. Like, Amber was like, to me, she went out in Friday, and she's like, oh, well, I go out and Saturday. And I was like, yeah, you could get hit by a bus. I could get hit by a bus. That's all I say now. I'm like, oh, I don't want to do that, but I could get hit by a bus. Oh, I shouldn't have champagne at a kid's party, but I could get hit by a bus.
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A bus, yeah.
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So that's what I say about everything. Hopefully you do.
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And then everything you do will have been worth it.
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I hope I'm not manifest. Does that mean I'm manifesting a touch of wood? I don't want to be, but I'm just like, I wonder. I'm such a busy bee at the moment. I got, I'm being very social and I'm like, it's, it's all down to I could be hit by a bus.
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You could be. And you, and you could. Well, you genuinely could be hit by a bus. That's the truth of the matter.
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And I cycle loads of bosses.
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You're always on your phone.
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Excuse me. Don't out me.
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Speaking of phones.
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Oh, yeah, yeah. John asked us to tell us. Now, obviously I don't know how to do things like this, so I just type in screen time.
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Yeah, mine had social, entertainment and then I had business. 1%. And I don't know what it's taking business as.
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What's your social, Joanne?
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Daily average? Actually don't think it's that bad. Nine hours, seven minutes.
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Seems a lot.
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I, I'm single with no kids, folk. I have nothing else to do. I purpose.
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So it was nine, what, 19 minutes.
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Is that just the Social?
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Nine hours, seven minutes.
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No, it's not just social.
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Oh, no. Okay, okay, okay. So average now is entertainment 5 hours 41. Social 1 hour 49. That's actually not that bad.
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Social's not that bad. I thought you'd be worse with the tick tock, to be honest.
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Productivity and finance, 25 minutes.
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Yeah, but you want. Your business dealings are on social, so.
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That's so true. You're my business dealer. What's your, what are your quality?
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I'm 438 average. What?
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Oh my God, I hate myself. Why am I on it for nine hours on tour?
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Because you're on tour and you're in a car. That's honestly why I'm not just trying to make excuses for you, but when I'm filming a TV show and I have loads of hanging around and I'm on train loads, it's like seven hours. It's never nine.
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Nine hours, Joe, is that I'm not well, how many hours in a day.
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I'm not well, my worst, if I'm hungover, I could be 15. Or no, not, not 50. If I'm hungover, I could be seven hours that day. Nine is impressive. You in the medal, if that helps.
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Wow.
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What are you on? What's up?
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I'm up at a hundred. Like as in it's maxed out. It's, it's, it's kind of spasming. Here now. It's WhatsApp. Is that one hours? I don't know. It just says 100 Gmail. 38 hinge 9 thread 6 tick tock 6 hinge 9.
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Okay. No, I have to.
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That's because I'm off to drink and I'm trying it, so I'm like, I might as well try and meet someone.
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I have to be honest with you. So most of the time I'm six hours. This is a good couple of weeks. I mean, most of the time I'm six hours, so I will admit that. God, I need to get off. Let's all get off our phones. Let's all try and cut an hour. Let's try and cut an hour. Let's try and get off your phone and let's try and cut an hour off that.
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That.
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Jesus Christ. I feel bad now. I feel bad. I could. I could get hit by a bus and I'm just on my phone the whole time.
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But being on your phone is going to up the chances of you getting hit by a bus. Yeah, I don't have time to get hit by a bus. I'm on my phone too much. I L don't have time to go out and get hit by a bus. I'm like, not now. I'm uploading.
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So tell me a bit about your week. We never do that anymore. I'd like to know.
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What about my week? Well, I'm on the dry now. This is. This is big news now, in fairness, especially when it comes around the touring. It's very boozy, very wet.
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I chose the worst time to go on the drive. But I'm so proud of you. I think.
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I woke up one day and I woke up one morning and I was hungover and I lost my phone in the flat. Is this my rock bottom? I don't know. It seems quite. I lost my phone now. Yeah, you'd want me to be like, puking in a bin or something.
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This seems actually totally fine.
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I realized it had gone too far when I lost my phone.
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I lost my phone on the flap, but it was.
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Your phone ran away because it was so tired.
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I'm sober. Vogue. I have nothing else to do. Quick, hide.
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She's coming. Those ads. Yeah.
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The buttons are just burnt out. They've just melted into the back of the phone.
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Yeah, my.
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I woke up. I know. That was what happened. I burnt my thumb off from scrolling my thumb. My fingerprint is gone. It's like, you can't be on that one. I lost my phone. The flat And I was so annoyed at myself because I'd, like, brain fog from drinking on the tour the night before. And I just got so frustrated with myself and. And I took me, I'd say 20 minutes to find the phone and that. I. Weirdly, I don't know why that just snapped me. I was like, I'm sick of this. I'm sick of my own. I'm just sick of it. So, yeah. So I was like, right, no more beers. No worries for a month. And then I was like, oh, giving up booze for October to run groundbreaking forgetting. Because I was like, I was online being like, I want to be accountable. I'm all for the ones. And someone goes, so you're doing so October like everyone else. I was like, yep, yep, yep, yep.
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Sorry. No, sorry. My birthday's. We're doing my birthday. You can't do. So you said you were already doing it till then.
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Yes, I'm doing a month. And I'm also. I'm in the Apollo this weekend. And I know for a fact I'll end up having a glass of something after the Apollo, for sure. But, like. But I'm not doing the Apollo, but I'm not doing what I was doing, which was excess. I'm not doing that anymore. I feel like. I genuinely feel like I've turned a corner. I don't know why. I don't know where it's coming from. I really do. And then a friend of mine was like, oh, God, are you gonna make not drinking for a month bring your whole personality? And I was like, yeah, no. Do you know what the really sad part of being on the dry. Firstly, realizing how often you tip away when you're on the road.
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Like, yeah.
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The amount of time you go, no, thanks, no, thanks, no thanks. And I feel. I'm sorry. Now. I feel bad on my fellow lushes to say this. I feel unreal. I do. I feel unreal. But I will say it's.
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I'm not the only smoke here.
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No, I find it. I thought post show. I find it. Like, I'm white knuckling it.
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Yeah.
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I'm like, I have to tell Kylie as I take the wine out of my dressing room, because whenever I go into a dressing room, there's a bottle of wine there on. On ice. Take it out. Gorel said if you saw me having a drink after the show, he'd slap it out of my hand and slap my face.
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I do think that you've chosen a really difficult time to do it. So I think that you're doing really well because of that. Especially because of that. And I think even I would want to have a drink after a show.
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You know what it's like? You know what I mean? Yeah, it's very hard, but also I have to take responsibility for myself. And yeah. You know, like, I'm going to be touring hopefully for the next 30 years of my life. So there's, it's always go. There's always going to be an excuse. I needed a really girthy circuit breaker, that's what I needed. And I'm having a circuit breaker and I, I feel amazing. But I don't know, like. But yeah. Anyway, I'm not, I'm not gonna make a huge big deal out of it, she says, having just made a massive deal out of it.
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I don't think you are. But I do think there's a lot of people that are just trying to drink a little bit less. And it does like, I, I like getting pissed. I do like gun it and drinking, but it really makes me feel terrible. It makes me feel terrible about myself for days. It doesn't make me feel good. Even though I like doing it at think just doing it more in moderation. Like, like, what are they called, the ones behind us? Millennials or what are they called? Yeah, yeah, they're all at that.
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Well, I definitely, I think living on your. Anyone I know who lives on their own would say that they think that they have bad habits around booze. Not everyone. Some people don't at all. But I think if you live on your own and you're single, there is alcohol is. It's like a little pal almost. It becomes like your mate. You're like, watch the tv, have glass wine, blah, blah. And so I'm just trying to break those habits.
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Yeah.
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You know.
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Well, we're very happy for you. Well done. You've never looked better.
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Thank you. I do look good, don't I? Now, I have had my hair, makeup, freshly done, but yeah, that's just. No drinking. Nothing to do with live. Davy being here for two hours this morning. Nothing at all.
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Oh, I saw you. I was like, oh, great, I have to record with her later.
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That's my life with you. Hardly every day with my peno cortisol face.
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Did you see what I did last week? I got up to loads of stuff.
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Go on.
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I was at London Fashion Week. I went.
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Did you go?
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I went. I was at London. Only one thing though. Oh, yeah. But I, I, but I still, But I still went. I.
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Can I tell you something before we forget.
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Yeah.
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I'm at the point in my life I've realized and that you bring up London Fashion Week and I hate to cut across you, but you've reminded me of something I've started. You know, when you're young and you're like, you're. You're. You're quite self conscious when you're young and you wouldn't. You don't want to look like a fool or whatever. I. Yesterday I was. I was cycling around town on a park my bike and I was walking around and I realized in my helmet, right? So I still have my helmet on. And I was like, wow. Like there was a time I wouldn't even wear my helmet on the bicycle because I was like, I'd rather die than be seen to be wearing now you're idiot plastic bowl on my head. Whereas now 42, I'm literally wearing it to save myself having to carry it. Like I don't give a. And so I was walking through London town.
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They do make cooler helmets. I'm just saying. No, I'm listening. But you've chosen. It's a strange Yoshi. Now what's the. I think you look a bit like Toad.
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So you'd rather I die Bug? Is that it?
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I was just surprised in your choice of helmet when I saw it yesterday.
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Wow, A lot of shade coming through the little mini micro camera there. I might get one of those ones you wear around your neck and it explodes if you crash. It just kind of comes to fruition.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But I was plodding around in the helmet anyway and I was plodding through London and I realized I was walking through a London Fashion Week event. I think it was the H M event. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, God, everyone's so cool. And then I realized I was that L1 walking past the camera where these two like Olsen twin types were getting infield. And I walked past wearing my cycling helmet in my gym gear with my backpack on with the wires all coming out of us. They usually do. And I was like, oh my God, I'm. This is such a middle aged moment. And I'm kind of nosy, you know, I'm kind of like trying to see what it is and all that. They're all like wearing these kind of like rubber outfits and like huge.
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Well, I actually saw you outside and I just didn't think it was the right time to say hello. But I did. I saw you.
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I thought I saw you.
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I don't know her. I don't know her.
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No, honestly, I don't know who she is. Yeah, but I didn't even feel like a loser there. I met my friend Karina, who's been my stylist since I was like 17, and I met her and we were just having a nice time at the party and it was. Everyone was nice, the clothes were lovely and I had a great time. And then I went home an hour.
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Later because I fashion known stays or whatever, so. Well, I want h m to know that when I do appear in your background footage, a, I want to be. And B, the helmet was ironic. Okay, I know, I know fashion. Okay? It's just. I just want. I was caught out on that day.
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You will be catching her on a micro scooter next. Wait. You wait. She was slagging me about the micro scooter.
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You're going to want one.
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They do neon. The scooter. The scooter. The push scooter that I have.
A
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
B
I don't know about that, John. The helmet would suggest otherwise.
A
Okay, my next mode of transport is a mobility scooter. I want to. I want to start a gang called the Pinot Wheelers. But no one's listening to me. I am not easily appalled. I'm not squeamish. Anyone who's seen the inside of my fridge knows that there's nothing in there. There's some there'.
B
That'S rotten.
A
I'm taking the piss. What I mean is, I'm not as scared. I'm not scared of a bit of culture on a top for yogurt, you know, in, in, like. I have a morbid fascination. I once took out my own stitches with the gold hoop backstage in the stand in Glasgow. Out of my foot.
B
Oh, God. Remember the foot. Oh, that's the worst injury I think, that I've ever known of.
A
It was awful. Girl said it was like watching someone pull out their own tooth. I was like, I had to pluck out the stitches. Remember? I stood in a gin glass. Anyway, but when I read the story about Elton John wearing his own kneecap as a necklace and a brooch, I felt physically sick.
B
Have you seen it? Yeah, I think it looks kind of stunning. There's diamonds all over it.
A
Well, it's this, like, Elton. Do you not have enough icebreakers? Like, with all your career shit and all that? You need to be wearing your kneecap caps. Come on.
B
Well, maybe he just really rates himself and didn't want to find any of himself chucked in the bin.
A
I reckon it's Fame gone mad. If I was wearing my tonsils as earrings, people would, they would like, People would say something. Do you know what I mean? But he gets away with it because he's Elton John.
B
It's a bone, though. So I feel like a bone. Slightly different. Like, I nearly got a necklace made out of my breast milk, but Amber threw it out. Stupid.
A
Good work.
B
I might never get any more. I was gonna. Okay, fine. It's only breast milk.
A
Do you know that saying where they go, oh, look in the mirror and take off one piece of jewelry. Take off your breast milk brooch. And he needs to take his kneecap off. Just go down to accessories like everyone else.
B
I just don't know because I have a necklace that has all the kids fingerprints on it. And last week, it's from a brand called Philippa Herbert. She's amazing. So I want to give her a little shout out and. But I bought, I bought. I bought one last week for Winston. So I got. I like. They send you a pack and I did. Winston Distance paw. He's still alive, by the way. He's still alive, but I have his paw. His. Paul's gonna be on a necklace.
A
Well, that's, that's. That's different. That's not trying to turn your cartilage into couture fashion. That's different. That's a memory. That's. That's different. I feel like if I was rocking around with my appendix as a brooch, if I wasn't Elton John, people would be like, oh, she's insane. She's obviously smearing her bedroom walls with her own feces at night. There's a certain. There's a certain, like, megalomania to us, and I love Elton John, but I just. There was something I. And like I say it takes a lot to make me recoil. And I, I. And I recoiled mentally and physically. I did nothing. I didn't move at all, as I. I tend not to, but mentally, there was a. There was a mental recoiling. I was like, ah, Elton, that's too. I said to myself, I said, that is too much. It's very rare I say that.
B
Yeah. I mean, I just, I, I'm. I'm not. I just think it's Elton John. So he's. He's can do what he wants. Yeah, that's the thing. Like, we haven't reached Elton dawn status. We may never reach that status. Like, if Madonna. I don't know if Madonna, I don't know, pulls. I just hung anything on a necklace. You'd Be kind of fine with it. It wouldn't even have to be her own body part. She could like get a body part of like I know her current boyfriend and just pop it around her neck. Neck. No one would bat an eyelid. It's Madonna.
A
When I woke up out from my having my wisdom teeth out, I asked for them and they said, they said no. They flat out refused. Yeah, they said no, you can't have them now. I think they were like, look, you're.
B
Not out in John.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why is it okay to keep baby teeth and not adult teeth? Why is that all? She's weird. Keep everyone, everything's fine. Everyone's fine with that.
B
I mean you, I, I feel like you keep stuff like that for a while and then you're like, God, oh why did I keep it? Like my mom still has Alexander's teeth. Obviously because he was the ray of sunshine. Doesn't have any of our teeth. And I'm like, what are we going to do with Alex? Rotten little baby teeth. Like who wants to see them? Remember I was saving the umbilical cord. It was just like this long scab sitting in my. In with my serums. I guess it's cuz it's to do.
A
With your children that you're like oh, this is sweet in a way.
B
And when they pulled out your wisdom, you asked, they were probably like, who the does she think she is? Elton John?
A
You're aggress. You regret this blood pouring everywhere. Because it's just opened my mouth. Do you know the first, do you know the first set of dentures? Teeth. I mean if you're into that kind of thing. They have like the dentures and braces have very interesting history. So they used to go around the soldiers who were killed in World War I or the. No, French. What? Revolution. All that stuff. They'd go around and pull the teeth out of soldiers. Yeah, dead soldiers. And then they'd make.
B
Oh my God, that's desperate.
A
Like a set of fake teeth with them. They'd be all be individual dead people's teeth. Yeah. And then they said sometimes they'd be.
B
Pulling the two days.
A
I know sometimes they'd be pulling teeth out. And they were saying that soldiers weren't fully dead yet. So imagine you're lying there on the war.
B
Christ.
A
War, whatever. War zone. What's it called? Warfield? Warland.
C
Battlefield.
A
Battlefield. And you're dying anyway, you're in significant pain and then some prick comes along with the pliers and pulls your teeth out.
B
That's grim.
A
And everyone's like, thanks for your service. Oh my God, they have those dentures. There's museums that they have those dentures in. Yeah, I know.
B
And you'd have to take out the whole mouth because you couldn't just have an array of different people's teeth. You'd have to do a full night.
A
Ah, a full night. I'm pretty sure I've seen Mary Antoinette's braces in a museum, but I could be making that up. But I know she terrible teeth. And before she married dear man Louis, they put braces on her to try and fix their mouths. Google her there, Joe.
B
Geez. How bad were her teeth? Because loads. Everyone had bad teeth in those days.
A
Yeah, but you know, like, there was no such thing as dentists except people. You just rip them out. My, my.
C
No. Mariannette's braces, made from metal horseshoe shaped arch invented by Pierre Faucher, are not known to be in a museum.
A
Maybe not the museums you can get into, Joe.
C
All right, okay, fine.
B
God, it's usually I'm operating.
A
Operating at a higher level.
C
The only artifacts of her body are her hair.
A
Kneecaps.
C
Death mask.
A
Kneecaps.
B
What's her death mask? What's that mean?
A
They used to, before they had photos, they used to mold people's faces when they died so they'd have a. Like a. An image of them dead. Wasn't that right? Is that right?
B
I don't think I want anyone to see.
A
Oh, I'll be, I'll get. I'll be getting a death mask off you. Don't you worry. Keep the podcast going.
B
The bull got her in the end.
A
Yeah, I'm like, she's there. Look at her wave. She's quiet. Just has a lot of news this week.
B
She's fine just the way you aren't. Likes.
A
Yeah, less. Eddie, Finally. What's a death mask, Joe?
C
Yeah, you're right. It's a plaster, wax or metal cast made from the face of a dead person to preserve. Preserve their appearance.
A
That's very morbid.
B
Now I think that it's very, like, I just feel like I was having this conversation with my cousin and Amber in a group chat and we were just thinking, like, I don't know if I want everyone to see the body. You're not in your best state of mind. And like, like, I don't want anyone touching me when I'm not there. You do. You will. People.
A
I think it's part of the closure. I think people need to see the body. If you're in good shape which you are Vogue if you want.
B
I always get a fright to see the body.
A
I'll drag your cadaver over to John Belton for a last session.
B
That would actually suit me.
A
Get the abs popping.
B
Yeah. And now the fair by Vogue have started spray ts. We are assorted.
A
I'll just choke you up in the treadmill for a while.
B
Well, just drag it along.
A
Next we want to talk about the vagus nerve. If that's okay.
C
Isn't it? The vagus nerve.
A
Oh, that makes sense.
B
Although I don't.
A
I don't talk about it anymore.
B
I wanted to talk to you about something that you actually sent to the group of the couple who in 1999 were divorcing each other. And they had to sit in the courtroom and they had a Beanie baby collection worth $5,000 but couldn't split it themselves so had to do it in front of a judge. Imagine that that was. Was that you actually had to drag. I really don't think they should get divorced because if there's two people who love being that much. I mean you're not going to find anyone else.
A
The fact like if you have found someone as weird as you in that situation. I would. I would go to a therapist and I would make that work. They're on their hands and knees in course separating what looks like a thousand Beanie Babies.
B
What could have. What could have torn them apart. I just don't understand it because there is nobody else who would I'm get.
A
Maybe someone set fire to their troll collection or.
B
I just don't.
A
Their Sylvanian families got lost in the something. Something else toy related.
B
But it's like that jelly cat. Do you see Jelly cat and people are queuing for hours, two and a half hours to buy jelly cats in the uk. They're those like Aussie has. Those are the bunnies. He loves the little bunnies and. But like just new jelly cats that come out full. Adults are buying these.
A
Teddy, I'm happy to say I know nothing about the jelly cat community. But I will say Vogue now that you've brought it up.
B
I know what you're gonna say. I didn't want to. It's embarrassing for you.
A
It is embarrassing for me. I've done a full 180. I'd be the worst politician in the history of mankind. Remember how certain I was about. I was so critical of the Labubu thing and I did just landfill. It's nonsense. Well, well, well. To say I've turned a corner.
B
Yeah.
A
No, I'm. I'M now. I've now tried to start introducing them into my work so I can write them off as a tax expense.
B
Did you buy real ones or, or have you. Well, then, I'm sorry. Can you just please stop calling it a labubu? It's not a labubu, It's a lefufu. That's not a labubu, you cheap.
A
I could. I bought it out of a service station on the M3.
B
It's not a labubu, it's a lefoufu. And if you were slagging me up, and if you hadn't been such a cow about sorry, boo booze, I would give you a real 1.
A
Focus 2025. If my labubu wishes to identify as a real abubu, it has the right to do that. You're the foo foo for paperwork. Etc. Well, then you are a fascist.
B
Have you seen, have you seen the outfits that you can get for them? Well, I don't know if you can get some for the fufus, but I know you can get them for the boobies.
A
I, I haven't. I, I. What? What?
B
A labubu. Clothes. They all get clothes. Yes. I'm gonna get my labubua clothes just to look at this.
A
Joe. I stuck a little boo boo on a spatula. Folks, stop. Stop being such a snob about it, please.
B
I'm not being a snob, but you just have to be honest about it.
A
The head goes around. Look, because it's because it's the Labubu. It's because it's a labubu from a petrol station. It's not a labubu from the real Libu website.
B
Thank you. Thank you.
A
Because I like this and you just like, like a poultry. I stuck a spatula up at Zara. I was doing a fake therapy session this morning for some actors, and I felt this kind of added a certain amount of pizzazz to the event. And like I said, now we can write it off for tax.
C
Oh, yeah.
A
Entirely anything you see me carrying around in a work capacity, I'm trying to write off for tax. Whether that be Vogue or a.
B
I need this for work.
A
Yeah, it was when I was my ninth libu. I was like, okay, Joanne, we're gonna have to try and write some of these expenses off. Stick a spatula, but. Sorry. Let's bring it to work. Thank you, though. I just, I mean, do you know when you're like, Joan, just, you know.
B
I'll give you, I'll give you.
A
Adopt an orphan or some. Yeah, Louis, Vuitton are bringing out designer, designer laboobies. When I saw that couple splitting up the Beanie Babies, I said that could easily be me. And Vogue and Tyres to Time. Yeah.
B
Two more things I wanted to tell you about because when I saw those people. There were two farmers once, right? This is a cow custody case for people divorcing, right. There was two farmers in Romania and they went to court over who owned a cow and the cow got brought into the courtroom.
C
Come on.
A
Oh no, no, no, no. And asked to walk to their dad. Mommy and daddy.
B
Yeah. And it moved and walked to one of the farmers and the judge ruled in the, the, that farmer's favor. Do you know, I used to, I used to do that game with one of my exes. With our dog. I'd be like, come here, come here, Rocco, come to me, come to me to see who the dog liked more. Don't ever do that with Spencer. Cuz like they don't even know he exists.
A
Yeah, it's not really a win. It's not really a win there.
B
Yeah, they'd actually get frightened if you started calling them. They'd be like, oh, what's going on here?
A
They're like, stranger danger, stranger danger. I can understand though if you're in a relationship, a long term marriage and stuff and you something that you. That's what I always feel like. Couples who share pets and then you're kind of dropping pets up and down and then the new relationships involved and it's all a bit of a pain in the arse. You're better off owning everything by yourself and staying alone. Again. I keep saying it. Keep saying what?
B
Because of pets. Because of pets.
A
If you buy something together that is sentient as such and then you share it and people are obviously very attracted. Whoops. You were told by PCI earlier, attached to their pet.
B
There was another George, right. In 2012 in Texas, two feuding neighbors were told by a judge to hug it out and they refused. And then the judge made them shake hands and say, have a nice day. So that's a bit of courtroom drama for you.
A
Sorry, speaking of courtroom drama, did you see the 89 year old woman who was arrested for murdering her roommate in her nursing home with a part of her own wheelchair?
B
I actually removed that from the notes cuz I thought it was too depressed.
A
See, this is what happens when Vogue's in control. She takes all the good out.
B
I just thought, oh God, that's a bit dark.
A
I was watching where my main story went.
B
I was like, Pete, that's a bit. That's a bit dark.
A
Can I look it up?
B
I think she was 99, but I know somebody who was taking an older woman for. For dinner at this event and she hadn't been invited by the older women, but this woman was 92. And then she went and she saw another woman who was like 80. And she goes, oh, I didn't know that was here. And the person taking them for. For lunch was like oh my God. Still at the age of like. Yes, still going for each other. I suppose anyone can drive you mad at any age really.
A
Ah, listen, like just cuz you get older, it doesn't mean you go all Zen and Dalai Lama. If anything, I'd say you got even hardcore.
B
Yeah, more hard, you know, you got hard.
A
Woman 95 charged with. Charged with killing 89 year old roommate in nursing home and you know what the problem here is? I realized realize my reaction is Asia's. Why can't all people kill? Do you know what I mean? Why can't an old woman kill?
B
She should.
A
She has the same right to kill that as everyone else has, which is no right at all. But I mean, I mean the instincts are clearly still there. A witness found the suspect washing her hands in a room splattered with blood.
B
Sorry, Vogue.
A
I know you took the side of the notes in a nursing. I found it in a nursing home in Coney Island, Brooklyn. I mean, it's just they're checking her mental health. Felt.
B
I mean that's.
A
According to the com. According to the criminal complaint, a wheelchair inside the room where Ms. Krastoff died had been partially disassembled and one of its foot rests was on the floor covered in blood. The other foot rest, the complaint said, was outside the room on the ground below their window.
B
Premeditated? Is this premeditated wheelchair murder?
A
Well, she would have had to have taken the wheelchair apart to kill your wife.
B
Jeez Louise, you think you know some somebody.
A
Seagate. The nursing home has been the subject of several lawsuits in recent years.
B
Wow.
A
Wrongful death, negligence, statutory violations, avoidable injuries, infection, COVID 19 ET. I'm telling you, this is why we need to set up the Pinot Wheelers. So no women woman doesn't have to go to a nursing home. I'm going to rebrand the nursing home. Join the Pinot Wheelers.
B
I'll make sure that you're never in a nursing home and you make sure that I'm never in a nursing home. Joe, I'm sorry we can't look after everybody. It's it's each.
A
I. I need to know. No, I. I need.
B
I'll look after you. I. Like I'm much younger than you, so I will look after you.
A
Thank you, V. How kind. I see myself up in court for.
B
Killing you as part of a crutch. And they used to be such good friends.
A
That's it for this week. Make sure and get in touch if you want to. The email addresses hellotgmpod.com I've been Joann McNally. She's been Vogue Williams and Joe Ashywell.
B
Nothing to add. That was great. Fantastic. It.
Episode: Auntie Joanna, Teeth & Bestiality (Again)
Date: September 26, 2025
Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Vogue and Joanne bring their signature blend of unfiltered honesty, irreverence, and offbeat humour to a wide range of wild and surprisingly relatable topics this week. The episode flows from the chaos of family life and medical mishaps, to boundary-pushing science, bestiality jokes, oddball celebrity habits, and reflections on digital wellbeing. Listeners are treated to stories from their own lives, observations from the weird and wonderful world around them, and their uniquely candid takes on modern living—always laced with empathy (and plenty of banter).
This episode is a classic “MTGM” collision of the hilariously mundane and the deeply weird. Whether they’re riffing on dental disasters, fake therapy pets, or the existential crises of touring, Vogue and Joanne’s friendship is the real therapy—and the real entertainment—for listeners seeking laughter, camaraderie, and a bit of well-placed honesty in the chaos.