Big Mouth, Berghain & Biting

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Big Mouth, Berghain & Biting" My Therapist Ghosted Me
Host/Authors: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Release Date: May 30, 2025

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Introduction In the "Big Mouth, Berghain & Biting" episode of My Therapist Ghosted Me, hosts Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally engage in their signature blend of candid conversations, humor, and unfiltered advice. The episode delves into personal anecdotes, societal observations, and light-hearted banter, ensuring a rich and engaging experience for listeners.

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1. Overcoming Book Launch Anxiety The episode kicks off with Vogue sharing her initial apprehensions about her book launch. She confides in Joanne about her doubts, "I was very nervous about the book launch. I was like, this is not gonna work out. This is not gonna sell." (00:47). However, Joanne provides her seasoned perspective, encouraging Vogue to proceed by assuring her, "if there's two people in that audience, you're doing the book tour" (00:34). This advice boosts Vogue's confidence, leading to a successful tour with enthusiastic audiences.

Notable Quote:

"If there's two people in that audience, you're doing the book tour." – Joanne McNally [00:34]

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2. Embracing Aging and Gray Hair A significant portion of the conversation revolves around aging and the societal pressures associated with it. Both hosts discuss their personal battles with gray hair, debating whether to embrace it or fight against it. Joanne muses, "I've never done anything gracefully in my life. Why would I age gracefully? It's just not, it's not for me." (05:20). They touch upon the beauty industry's role in perpetuating unrealistic standards, highlighting the lack of solutions like a "tablet to take to reverse gray hair."

Notable Quotes:

"Gray is in if you wish to embrace it. I do not." – Joanne McNally [05:20]
"I think there's a racket going on in the vet." – Vogue Williams [04:34]

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3. Celebrity Interviews and Insights The duo shares their experiences interviewing high-profile celebrities. Joanne recalls interviewing Simon Cowell, noting his surprisingly phone-free lifestyle: "He doesn't have a phone because I asked him, I was like, who's the most obvious to ignore text. And they're like, Simon doesn't have a phone." (10:39). They also discuss other celebrities like Mariah Carey and Lady Gaga, offering humorous takes on their personalities and behaviors.

Notable Quote:

"He's the best thing I ever did by not having a phone." – Simon Cowell during interview [10:39]

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4. Catfishing Drama: Tommy Lee and Brittany Furlan A noteworthy segment focuses on a catfishing scandal involving Tommy Lee and his wife, Brittany Furlan. Vogue narrates, "she thought she was messaging this guy called Ronnie Radke... turned out that this was just somebody catfishing her" (17:08). They dissect the emotional and social ramifications of such deceit, emphasizing the embarrassment and trust issues it fosters.

Notable Quote:

"She was planning to meet up with this like pretend person. But it's just unusual for someone in her position to get caught out like that." – Vogue Williams [18:48]

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5. European Tour and Berghain Adventures The conversation transitions to their upcoming European tour, with plans to visit iconic locations like Berlin's Berghain. Joanne humorously questions, "if anyone listening has any tips on how to get him in, please let me know" referring to their friend Grode's ability to navigate such clubs (22:05). Vogue recounts her own experience at Berghain, describing the intense and sometimes aggressive atmosphere: "some people have been there since Friday night and they had not slept" (23:13).

Notable Quote:

"Berlin is full of really great vintage shops. Like you will look. Make sure you get out and shop like they have the best vintage shops." – Vogue Williams [25:07]

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6. Random Online Content and Animal Antics Injecting their signature humor, the hosts discuss bizarre online videos, including a strange Ring doorbell clip where a delivery driver is excessively licking a cat (26:22). They also share a harrowing tale of a woman being dragged by a tiger during a fight in a wildlife park, blending shock with dark humor.

Notable Quote:

"And then a tiger comes and pulls her away. Yeah. Gone." – Vogue Williams [28:34]

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7. Funny Segments and Interactive Games The episode features playful interactions, such as the "Snog Marry Avoid" game. Vogue humorously contemplates her options, "I'd marry him to get to her" in reference to a desirable celebrity, while Joanne adds, "I would more just scrap your brother" (39:40). Additionally, they explore AI baby videos, creating humorous personas of themselves as transformed infants, further showcasing their comedic chemistry.

Notable Quote:

"I look like a Garbage Pail kid." – Joanne McNally [41:32]

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8. Closing Remarks and Listener Engagement As the episode wraps up, the hosts encourage listener interaction, sharing contact information and teasing future content. They maintain their light-hearted tone, leaving listeners eager for the next installment.

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Conclusion "Big Mouth, Berghain & Biting" is a testament to Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally's ability to blend personal stories with broader societal commentary, all while maintaining an engaging and humorous dialogue. Whether discussing the anxieties of a book launch, the challenges of aging, or the absurdities of online content, the hosts deliver content that is both relatable and entertaining. Notable quotes sprinkled throughout the episode provide memorable insights and laughs, making it a must-listen for fans and newcomers alike.

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Transcript

[Joanne McNally]

This is a global player original podcast. Welcome to my therapist, ghost and me. Thank you for coming back to visit us. I'm Jaman McNally and that is Vogue Williams.

[Vogue Williams]

Hello. Good afternoon, good morning, good evening. Good middle of the night. Whatever you are going to be to you. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Wherever in the world you are. Joe is on mute for the moment because he is operating out of a hallway.

[Vogue Williams]

Well, he was actually talking shite, so we told him he had to mute.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, I wanted to be diplomatic about us. It's no fair to you. Yeah, sure, let him speak. What is the crack? How was the book launch? How was the event? Tell us everything.

[Vogue Williams]

Well, I will tell you one thing. I'm gonna tell the whole story. I was very nervous about the book launch. I was like, this is not gonna work out. This is not gonna sell. And I was having a moment of inner and I turned to my friend Joanne McNally and I said, I don't think I'm going to do the book tour. I think I'm going to pull the book Tour. And Joanne McNally turned around to me and said, if there's two people in that audience, you're doing the book tour. And it was the best piece of advice you ever gave me because it ended up being. It was like the nicest audience. And I was so glad that you gave me a kick in the GI and said, cop on to yourself.

[Joanne McNally]

Listen, I'm a seasoned pro. If I survived Winnipeg, you can survive Dick Street. Do you know what I mean?

[Vogue Williams]

I was honest.

[Joanne McNally]

I don't get me wrong, I have pulled shows, but I would only pull them if they're like, literally, you're gonna lose a ton of money doing them because you're like, the burger. I pulled a show in Norway because it was like, literally, I was just like, ah, here. That's just not. That's a flop. It's not selling. Do you know what I mean? But usually if there's anything decent there. And also, you're kind of growing your audience. That's always the way it is. You're kind of recruiting, you know?

[Vogue Williams]

I know, but I just. I don't know because I just. I've never been to a book tour and I just didn't think anyone would want to come. But the people that I'm doing it with faint were like, this is the way that it works. This is when people buy the tickets and want to come. It doesn't like, it's not like, let's say pedophile your stand up to it. They sell differently. And it's just done differently and I'm just so glad I did it. And now I've got London tonight and I'm so excited.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. Yeah. I went to see Rebel Wilson's book. It's event. An event, really, I would call it. Yeah, I would see her event in London and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I have to say. I. I love a book event.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, I'm going to start. I think I'm going to start going to a couple of them. But yeah, I thought that that was very sound advice and I'm glad that I took it on board because I was just, you know. And you're just having. I think I was having like an overwhelmed moment of the book coming out and just being really worried about possible headlines and then feeling the pressure of trying to sell tickets and I was worried that they wouldn't sell and it all got on top of me for a minute. But I'm so delighted I did it because I had the best night ever last night. To anyone who came, thank you. You're all saying, I had a great.

[Joanne McNally]

Time and you're more confident with it now and you're feeling good about us.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah. I was in Vicker street, though. I saw your poster straight away and I was only thrilled. So the security man was. I can't remember his name, he's asking for you. And he was very nice guy, Anna. And I saw your poster and I was thrilled that it said 69. And he informed me, actually you had done more than 69 shows. And I said, well, I'm just glad they left it. It's 69 on the poster.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. I think they just didn't bother updating it then. It's just like it. Leave it up. Yeah, I know.

[Vogue Williams]

She'll never stop.

[Joanne McNally]

She'll never stop. Yeah. It's such a nice venue, isn't it?

[Vogue Williams]

The bar and everything is amazing. Because I went to see Mary Black there before. That's like. That's the first time I'd been there. It's such a cool venue.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, I got my copy of the book. I had a quick scan.

[Vogue Williams]

Okay.

[Joanne McNally]

And I thank you for my line. Thrilled.

[Vogue Williams]

Very. You gotta. You got a paragraph, Joe. You only got a little baby line.

[Joanne McNally]

So we're not even in the acknowledgments. The dogs are. She's the dogs in the acknowledgments.

[Vogue Williams]

Sure. When he mightn't be here this time next year. So he was thrilled when he saw himself stuff. I saw him reading it last night.

[Joanne McNally]

What a depressing take.

[Vogue Williams]

Do you Know what happened last night? Someone asked a question, because we have these things that come up and it was something about like, what's your favorite thing about Winnie? And everyone just went, oh. And I'm like, he's not dead. Everyone just thinks. Whenever I mention. Like I said, yeah, well, every time.

[Joanne McNally]

We put a photo of him, it's like I said, it's the same with David Attenborough. There's just a. People are waiting because you've kind of planted the seed that he is on the way out.

[Vogue Williams]

I think Winnie has been. He's. Listen, the tablets he's on at the cost, they are. I'd be shocked if he went anywhere because I'd say that there's a racket going on in the vet. They're like, right, we'll give them these. There's these specific tablets that just keep them going forever. So you just have to keep paying a fortune for them every month.

[Joanne McNally]

I was speaking to a hairdresser recently and I was giving out about gray hair because I have, like, a streak now at the front. It's very annoying. And I was saying how with everything they can do and all the kind of advanced medical space science situations, can they not invent something for, like a tablet to take to reverse gray hair? And then he, of course, in all his wisdom was actually, they'd never. She's like, do you think l' Oreal would let them release a tablet that erases their entire business? And I was like, no, it's not. How stupid of me to think that they make so much money off covering grays. They're never gonna let us fix that.

[Vogue Williams]

You stinger, if you're a blonde as well, because it's not cheap to be a blonde and it's very time consuming.

[Joanne McNally]

But.

[Vogue Williams]

But what I will say is gray is in. You know, they're making gray hair extensions because, like, gray hair is in.

[Joanne McNally]

It's in if you wish to embrace it. I do not. I'm not spending my life sitting with needles in my face to then just let the hair go. Do you know what I mean? I'm either in or I'm out. I'm either fighting aging or I'm not. You know, I'm either ninja chucking the thing down the road or not. Like, it's. I think, right. There was a stage where there was like a gray rinse that was going around. It looks really cool on young girls, I think.

[Vogue Williams]

But like, some women see the gray rinse.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, it was like a trend. I think some girls, it really suits Some people, and they really embrace it. I'm just not ready. I'm not ready. I'm still fighting it.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, I'm. I sent you that thing about Cameron Diaz. I saw this thing that she said and she said, I'd rather see my face aging than a face that doesn't belong to me at all. And like, as bad as this sounds like I kind of don't even want to recognize myself in 20 years. I want to have to get a new passport. I don't.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, I know. Well, you. I think it's just about doing it like little and often. Little and often. You know, we don't always have to look like melted babies. But I agree there's aging gracefully. Like, I've never done nothing graceful in my life. Why would I age gracefully? It's just not, it's not for me.

[Vogue Williams]

No, we're not classy, we're not graceful and that's just. We're heavy footed and loud.

[Joanne McNally]

We're kicking and screaming with a wide gate. But I do think with the blonde, it's way higher. It's way easier. One of the. I'm obviously brunette now, but it's way easier to hide gray in blonde. Way easier. It kind of disappears into it when my.

[Vogue Williams]

The only thing is when my hair grows out because I have. They're almost like two little strips of gray at the front. So. But they look very gray. So I kind of have to make sure like, because sometimes I wouldn't be ours. I want to do that whole body ash thing which means you're just a lazy and don't want to get your hair done. And I can't really do that anymore.

[Joanne McNally]

I sometimes when I wash my hair and the. And I. Because I usually kind of spray the grays when I'm not and getting the color done and you get out of the shower and it's very much, oh, hello, I am a 42 year old woman because sometimes I forget the a. The great. That's what I think. Great ages you. And I'm not ready.

[Vogue Williams]

You know, karma. I always believe in karma. I just do. I had an incident when I was flying back to Dublin and I was running down the stairs. I thought my flight was the earlier flight. I actually genuinely thought that. And I was running down the stairs and this woman was there and she basically let me on the earlier flight. But just before I'd helped this man who couldn't push his trolley and I thought I was actually going to miss my own flight, but it turned out I actually was too early for the. The flight that I was on. And then she let me on. It was the very last seat and I felt that I got that because I'd helped the man with his bag. But then I was going into this because I was meant to fly to Dublin on Friday and my flight got canceled and I couldn't get one till 10 o' clock at night. And then they were like crazy money to go on Saturday. So I nearly had to take to the bed. I was so sad because I was taking the kids back to see my mom. I was really obsessed. But it was like 1800 quid from Luton one way the next morning. And I was like, I'm just. I'm not doing it. So I decided not to take the kids. I know. And then, yeah, six o' clock on Friday night, I got a call. Lorraine wanted me to interview all the judges of Britain's Got Talent. And then I got to. Yeah, all of them. And he reminded me of that because we were talking about aging disgracefully and Amanda Holden looked amazing.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, she has done a deal with the devil. That is so funny. You know, you're. Because, you know, I know that you do bits and bobs on Lorraine and there's a lot of drama with Lorraine at the moment for our foreign listeners. Lorraine is a daytime TV presenter that does bits and bobs on the TV show. But did you see that she was. Did an interview recently where she talked about the two people that the two weirdest celebrity are the two most difficult celebrity interviews she's done.

[Vogue Williams]

Who did she say?

[Joanne McNally]

Well, she said the first one was Mariah Carey, but she said it wasn't. She was difficult or mean. She said she was in inverted commas, refreshed. So it was hard to keep her on topic. And I don't know what Lorraine means by refreshed.

[Vogue Williams]

Drunk.

[Joe]

Yeah, she was.

[Joanne McNally]

I. Is she.

[Vogue Williams]

She was drunk. That's a great way of saying it, isn't it?

[Joanne McNally]

I know. I was like, I will not. I'll add that to the doc. She said she was refreshed and I.

[Vogue Williams]

Was like, yeah, who was the other one?

[Joanne McNally]

And the other one then she said was Lady Gaga, who, after waiting for her for hours and hours and hours, didn't actually turn up.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, I. And I heard Lady Gag. I heard like, I know her. I heard Lady Gaga is meant to be really nice and just normal and sound. So she would have had good reason. I think I met Amanda Alicia Dixon. Jesus Christ. She is just so. They're both so sound when they came in because obviously Like, I'm interviewing them and they're. They're. They're like big UK stars. And I was like, oh, God, I'd never met Simon Cowell before. And then Bruno was hilarious. He was really nice. Really nice. Very friendly to everyone when he walked in. Really nice. Interesting topic about. About Simon Kell. He has not had a phone in years. He has no phone because I asked him, I was like, who was. Who's the most. Who will. Who's the most obvious to ignore Text. I asked out of all four of them, and they're like, simon. Then they're like, wait, actually, Simon doesn't have a phone. He doesn't have a phone. And he's like the best thing I ever did by not having a phone.

[Joanne McNally]

That's why he's so successful and rich.

[Vogue Williams]

I was thinking, so we should put our phones in the toilet.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, there's a thing that keeps being served me on Instagram called the brick, which is this contraption where. Yes, you. You. It locks your phone, basically, which I'm absolutely going to order because, my God, do I need that thing. I am hooked on it. And it's. I. I really resent it, but I can't stop.

[Vogue Williams]

It's. It's. It's near impossible stuff. Now what I will say is, if you got yourself into Yellowstone, there's not much more to do but watch Yellowstone. So it will really take you off the phone.

[Joanne McNally]

Riddle me this.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

What does Simon Cowell's face look like up close?

[Vogue Williams]

I have to say he was looking well. He was looking well. It's settled.

[Joanne McNally]

Has it? The work is settled. Has it? Because it takes a while for work to settle sometimes.

[Vogue Williams]

I don't know what work he's had done, but he did look. The visage looked unwrinkled. I wondered. Now, I don't know if I would go as far as saying he used Kris Jenner's surgeon, who has never been outed, by the way. P.S. start saving. I would say no. I thought he looked really well, but I actually don't know what age he is. What age is he? And then I'll tell you how well I thought he looked.

[Joe]

65.

[Vogue Williams]

Wow. Okay. He looked amazing. He's definitely. He's deaf. He's had something done. There's no way. Because there's not. There's not.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, we know. Yeah, sure. He's. He's infamously. He kind of went through. And I. Listen, I don't like commenting on people's appearances, but I. But I do. And he did go Through a bit of a wobbly phase there. Reverend's like, what the is going on there?

[Vogue Williams]

I think you gotta though. I think, I think if you don't have people close in your circle that are gonna say, oh, oh, don't, that's too much. Or don't like. Do you know what I mean? You can, you can push yourself too far. And I think some people, maybe he went to the wrong person. That's not right for his face. But like, if you get too much done, then you end up looking older. So maybe he had a little tweak. I don't.

[Joanne McNally]

Too much happened. It's a gas way. I feel I can, I can comment on men's faces, but I'd never do it to a woman. I'm so sexist.

[Vogue Williams]

Well, we don't actually, we don't comment on too many people's faces now, in fairness, unless they look fantastic.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, I'm slacking his face.

[Vogue Williams]

You're not. Like you said, he looks great. You're sliding his old face. So that's Indeed.

[Joanne McNally]

Sorry. Yes. I'm a feminist again. Brilliant.

[Vogue Williams]

What's your favorite ice cream?

[Joanne McNally]

One of the scoops from the shop. I like a bit of pistachio Nutella, something like that. Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

No, you're wanting your cheapo one. What's your cheapo?

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, I like. I like a Solero.

[Vogue Williams]

I love a Solero.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, Very refreshing. Maybe that's what Mariah was on. I had a great weekend.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, go on.

[Joanne McNally]

I had an absolute ball now that I'm leaving the house.

[Vogue Williams]

Did you just leave for now? The day. I was surprised because I was.

[Joanne McNally]

I was out and about all. All weekend. All weekend out and about. Yeah, the shoes are worn down. I was out so much.

[Vogue Williams]

I saw her posting in the dark at the festival. I was like, oh, my God, she's dead. Yeah, it's dark.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. Yeah. So I went to see Kneecap in Brockwell park and tell me. Well, it was basically like a rally. They were hip hop back from Belfast and I was like, I just don't think I can even get away with saying hip hop. I think I just sound like such an an L1. Whereas Vogue. You can get away with hip hop.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, because I love hip hop. It's my. I wanted it to be my mastermind subject. I love hip hop.

[Joanne McNally]

I sound like I'm saying like those islands you can't pronounce.

[Vogue Williams]

Tick tock.

[Joanne McNally]

It's like hip hop. They were hip hop and all.

[Vogue Williams]

That's so cool.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. Hip hop and hopping here and hipping there. But you know what's. So I was looking at the lads, and obviously I fancy all the kneecaps, but I was looking at them and I was like, it's so attractive for. To look at men with a moral compass. We were so vocal about us in a balaclava. But anyway, they were unreal. But I had an English friend with me, and he was a little nervous at one point, and he's like, joanne, there's a child over there in the balaclava. I was like, it's just a bit of crack.

[Vogue Williams]

I did consider buying one of the balaclavas. Now, who's your favorite kneecap? I couldn't decide. I think it's your man who wears his sunglasses because he just seems to be in trouble the most.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, he's kind of the bright. He's the most brazen of the lads. But the guy who wears the balaclavi, apparently he's a teacher by day, so he has to protect his identity. There's a man called Lewis Kenny, who. He's from the north side of Dublin, and he was going out with a girl. She was head of her knitting society in Delhi. And he was like, oh, I'm in love with her, so I'm gonna give knitting a go. And then he randomly met Pravi, wears the balaclava, and he was like, do you want me to knit you a balaclava? And he was like. Your mom was like. Your mom's like, yeah, totally. So we knitted the balaclava, and now it's like it's part of the band. But he was saying. He was like, it's actually really hard to knit a balaclava because of the stitching, and. And I was like, I'd find it really hard. I just rip the rip two holes out of a tea cozy and throw it on. I'd never be able to knit one.

[Vogue Williams]

But I'd love to go and see kneecap. That looked absolutely amazing. We'd probably have to leave Spenny behind. In fairness, he's a bit much now.

[Joanne McNally]

I think so.

[Vogue Williams]

Or we'd put a balaclava on him and we wouldn't cut out a mouthpiece.

[Joanne McNally]

I think he'd have to be incognito.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Or you'd get radicalized. He's very suggestible and more than myself.

[Vogue Williams]

If there was an Irish passport in it, Spenny would be a turncoat as quick.

[Joanne McNally]

But your man Lewis says it's actually really boring that in balaclavas after a while. Which I was like, yeah, Fair enough. So now he has his aunt or is his aunt. Is his mother in law or his aunt or something like that. I was like, there's something really funny because the, the association of the balaclavas and the paramilitaries and the idea of just like elderly women knitting them. There's something very entertaining about that juxtaposition, isn't there?

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Like it's all very arts and crafts and etsy, but yet then what they really symbolize is something quite hardcore. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I'll stick to my brooches, my Velcros.

[Vogue Williams]

Did you see, you remember that catfish drama you were telling me about the two Johnny's and everyone was. Did you see the latest catfish drama with Tommy Lee and Brittany Furlan, his wife, you know her, she's a comedian. She like blew up on Vine. So she's. Do you know her? Because she's. She's actually very funny. She was on that thing vine, remember vine years ago. That was, it was that video kind of. It was kind of like tick tock before. Yeah, Tick tock. Anyway, they match is she met Tommy Lee, married him, who used to be married to Pam Lanson and they're married years. Years. And so she thought she was messaging this guy called Ronnie Radke. I think that's how you say his name. I. You would fancy him. John. He's got tattoos everywhere.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, nice.

[Vogue Williams]

He looks like he belongs on the wrong side of the road. Yeah. Because I was googling. I was like a big dude.

[Joanne McNally]

It looks like a big doodle. Like a child went mad on him with the crayon. That's what I love.

[Vogue Williams]

And he. So basically she thought she was mailing him and she was mailing him on Snapchat and she was back and forth thing and then she was there were planning a meet up. And keep in mind she still married Tommy Lee. They're planning a meet up and. And then it turned out that this was just somebody catfishing her. It wasn't the real him. So he then found out about it because Tommy Lee mailed him and we're like. Was like are you mailing my wife? Blah blah blah. And he's trying to like basically clear his name and be like, I wasn't doing this to you. And now he's got the FBI involved because somebody has been doing it non stop to other people with, with his name. I know he's. He's pretty, he's attractive.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh yeah. He's a ride. Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah. So he's had loads of people. But now the drama is that Britney has said that she's now in a hotel and her and Tommy Lee aren't getting on, obviously because of. All of this has exploded. He's basically got the FBI involved because it's happening to loads of people. She's in a hotel room saying that her and Tommy Lee are breaking up. But then she's been heard in the back of some of Tommy Lee's videos. So there you go. That was my catfishing story that I found. But like, ouch.

[Joanne McNally]

But also what an embarrassing way. Like, not only are you about to try and cheat on your husband, but like there's no one even on the other side of the affair. You're literally having an affair with yourself.

[Vogue Williams]

I know. And she's saying. She was like, this whole thing is embarrassing. I'm embarrassed. He's embarrassed. Everyone's embarrassed. I was like, oh, God.

[Joanne McNally]

This is why she needs to hit up chat gbt. She obviously just needs a bit of attention, bit of chat throughout the day because she obviously never met this person. It was an emotional affair.

[Vogue Williams]

I know, but she was planning to meet up with this like pretend person. But it's just unusual for. For someone in her position to get caught out like that.

[Joanne McNally]

Yes. Yep, yep, yep. I remember one of the girls got. Got stung before. She was. Oh, no, she was mailing this and he was gorgeous. He was like real Brazilian looking man on him.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Like, wasn't Irish. You know the way you could just tell, like you just know there's an Irish head and he just did not have that head and there. And went. But when they. When he started writing to her, he was like, hey, Ahun. Like it was this really Dublin voice note and she's like, there's just no way that that is coming out of that man. There's just no way. But he was a real. Yeah. How are you horn? How are you getting on?

[Vogue Williams]

I'd love to delve into the mind of trolls first of all because I find it so interesting. But also people who catfish like, how do you. Amazing the time that they have. And when you see them on the show, catfish. A lot of them don't have jobs and it would make sense. Like there. Surely there's some kind of job they could go into where catfishing would be appropriate and they just make. Yeah. And they can make money off it.

[Joanne McNally]

There was a comedian actually tagged me. I can't remember her name. I'll get her for the bonus who tagged me. She sent me a. She has a sketch about trolling. And she sent it to me and then she was like, can I use you for the next one? As in, like the I'll troll you in the next sketch. And I was like, yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

And she. She's. She's treating it like. She's explaining it like it's an office. She's like, I've got seven or eight trails working below me. And she's on. She's on one of those walking desks. Do you know what I mean? Just, like giving people online. It's really, really funny. I'll share. I'll share the clip when she does the trolling. She was like. She actually said to me, she's like, so, what should I say for you? Like, what's the usual trolling stick for you? And I was like, oh, my voice accent, is it. Yeah. Oh, not. I mean, they, like, they. There's. They have loads to choose from, but the you. The main one is usually the heavy hitter is the Accenture. Can't listen to that site Psych. Ebike site. Psych is usually the. Yeah, yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

My. Mine is always. Mine is always. What does she do? And I'm like, honestly, I physically cannot work harder. Figure it out.

[Joanne McNally]

I think, yeah. 28 jobs. You're like, are you serious? I prefer what does she do over Stateside kids? Or the other one is, she's not even Irish. Which is why I was, like, at kneecap the other night, being like. I was, like, making sure everyone got the footage of me live at the rally.

[Vogue Williams]

Yo, yo. She's.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, pass me the balaclava there. Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Those people always, always say to me, her name, her real name's Joanne. And I'm like, about you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. I would have gone with Vogue had I chosen, of course. Jesus.

[Joanne McNally]

I am going to Europe in, well, next week for the pedophile Euro vengeabus part of the tour with my good friend and confidant, Garoud Farrelly.

[Vogue Williams]

Just the two of you? Are you making him drive again?

[Joanne McNally]

No, we're going to rail plane and sail it. We're basically going into railing for the summer. We're thrilled with ourselves.

[Vogue Williams]

So where are you starting off, you and Grode?

[Joanne McNally]

Lisbon.

[Vogue Williams]

I don't know if Grod is going to make it out life. What do you think?

[Joanne McNally]

Well, already I'm like, we're going to Berlin. And I'm like, garage. You're going to Berghain.

[Vogue Williams]

No, Joanne, he won't. He won't be able to cope. He won't.

[Joanne McNally]

I Said you're going to Berghain. So if anyone listening has any tips on how to get him in, please let me know. I. I want to put a little body cam on him, and then I'll just watch from the comfort of my own bed, because I'm not going. But he's gay. I was like, boy, I'll get you a little harness on Teu. He loves Teemu.

[Vogue Williams]

I'll tell you where. I'll tell you how he could get in. He could bring his cat with the little portable toilet. And if he does something weird like that and has his cat piss in front of the security guards in a toilet, they'll be like, yeah, you can go.

[Joanne McNally]

Such a good idea.

[Vogue Williams]

Little bite to you.

[Joanne McNally]

They're like, who's this weirdo with the cash? I'm like, yeah, is this. We've never seen the likes of this before. Let them in. I don't know if you're cool enough to get into Bercon. I'm gonna have to ask for some chips.

[Vogue Williams]

He could be your.

[Joanne McNally]

He could wear your mash pants. Please bring your mash pants. All your mashes.

[Vogue Williams]

Get your nipples pierced now.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, my God, that's such a good idea.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, he's gonna be really into that for sure. He'll. He'd love to get his nipples pierced. Are you gonna go to Berghain? Ah, you should do that for content. Go on. It'd be even better if you don't get in and you just.

[Joanne McNally]

In the battle. It'll be fun with us.

[Joe]

It's only got 3.9 stars on TripAdvisor. I don't know.

[Vogue Williams]

It's not great. It's not great. I tell you what, I'd say that he got stabbed in there.

[Joanne McNally]

What?

[Vogue Williams]

So I went in and we queued for an hour and a half to go to Berghon. And I. Obviously, I wasn't really that artist. Anyway, we got in and it was kind of one of those places. I didn't really want to have to drink from one of the glasses in there. It was dirty. I don't like when somewhere is dirty. And I was just like, this is grimy. And I'd gone on like the Sunday and, like, I had slept, so I. I was just going like a punter. But some people have been there since the Friday night and they had not slept. And I mean, the. I. I don't even need to say, allegedly, they had been doing drugs since Friday night. Got there. When I saw some people, I was like, oh, my. You know, when someone is Just like, honestly, they were chewing. Some of them were trying to chew their own nose off. It was wild. And then this one guy was dancing really aggressively and I was kind of just like dancing beside him. Wasn't looking at him, wasn't getting involved with him because I thought he might start trying to chew my face off. And then I like, he bumped into me and he got so annoyed at me and he was just trying to have a go at me. And then eventually we had to leave because I was like, he's going to try and stab me. And because he said that to me.

[Joanne McNally]

So weird because drugs are usually everyone's like hugging and kissing and you know.

[Vogue Williams]

Not after three days. I don't think after. I think it's after day three, it turns aggressive.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, probably Berlin, it's. I mean, drugs is just part of the scene, isn't it? Pills for breakfast over there, they're hardcore. Instead of like a pastry shop, you just go out and get a pill in the morning and a espresso martini and get on with us. I'd love a floral balaclava. Would not be fun.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, you wouldn't last a second in a balaclava. It's too hot. Imagine the sweat.

[Joanne McNally]

You're so right. I'd say sweat profusely on the face. Probably not the best idea to be ringing the thing out every night. Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Berlin is full of really great vintage shops. Like you will look. Make sure you get out and shop like they have the best vintage shops.

[Joanne McNally]

I'll definitely. I definitely. The problem with me though is like trying to get rid of clothes at the moment, to be honest.

[Vogue Williams]

Also, by the way, you're going to lose half your wardrobe on tour. So you're fine. Might as well start walking up again.

[Joanne McNally]

I, by the way, I also am. Berlin isn't sells out. So there's tickets for Berlin and the tickets for Antwerp. Oh, and. Oh, and of course the Scandi countries. Everywhere else is pretty much gone. I think just if anyone's hanging around, if anyone's around, if anyone's around Oslo, if anyone's hanging around Stockholm, if anyone's happens to be in Copenhagen, I will be there.

[Vogue Williams]

Copenhagen, Hagen. Stunning. You're gonna meet your husband there, I think.

[Joanne McNally]

Have you seen the style in Copenhagen?

[Vogue Williams]

Oh my God. Have you never do, you know, follow Copenhagen Fashion Week when it's on there and people are going and they are just the most epic cool people you'll ever see in your life. They are cool. They've got their together. The whole city is amazing.

[Joanne McNally]

It's Very exciting. I said to grow, one of us has to come back with an sti. Like, we're going to Europe for the summer. It's all very American pie.

[Vogue Williams]

It would be insulting if you didn't.

[Joanne McNally]

Exactly. I'm going to the continent.

[Vogue Williams]

Going on to the continent. The European continent, yeah. Gotta meet a nice European man. Can we talk about random stuff that you see online? Because I just. Honestly, I don't know what my algorithm is doing. But like, obviously I watch really weird stuff and that's why it keeps serving me up even weirder stuff. But I was watching this guy. I love the ring doorbell. You know when people see the ring doorbell and they always catch mad stuff on the ring. Sometimes it's really wholesome nice stuff. Like this man. Like. Like picking something up and it's fallen down. Like nice things. I was watching one today and it was this delivery driver, right? And you could see that you could hear the cat and there was a cat and he went and picked up the cat and then he started furiously licking the cat. Like, lick. L lick. And I was like. And the person who posted was like, I just saw this random delivery guy licking my cat. And I was like, I was expecting like a little lick, but it was like full on, like hairball removal licks.

[Joanne McNally]

I've got questions. Where in the cat was the liquor licking?

[Vogue Williams]

Like just in. Where his. The bridge of his nose mainly. I know, like the top of his head licking, but. And I'm just like, that is so unusual. I wouldn't like to see what he has in his house and stuff. I'd say it's really mad stuff.

[Joe]

Did the cat for it.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, the cat was enjoying it. I'd say, what's.

[Joanne McNally]

The cat was probably like, it's about time. Like they're. I'm. He's like, I'm flatter licking everyone else. It's about time someone licked me back once. He wasn't licking the cat. I can't talk about going down animals again. It's like, it's.

[Joe]

That's where we're going.

[Vogue Williams]

Why not? It's your favorite topic.

[Joanne McNally]

I kind of talk about it like, what is wrong with me? I've got bestiality Tourette's. That's. It's weird. But once he's not doing that or scoring the cat tongue to tongue.

[Vogue Williams]

No, they weren't. They weren't into tongue. You wouldn't want to score a cat anyway. They've got a very rough tongue.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. Do you know that you can apparently buy those cat tongues for Yourself with the little.

[Vogue Williams]

It's called to lick the Cat.

[Joanne McNally]

To lick the cash. Yeah. And they kind of exfoliate the cat because the cat's tongue is quite barbed, as is its penis. Do you remember that when a cat mates with another cat, your man shoves it inside and then it expire. It expands like a hot air balloon, but it's full of spikes and the cat's screaming and everything.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, same with a fox. Have you ever heard foxes getting after us at night? Oh, my God, it's terrifying, the noise.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, hold on. Maybe it's a fox and not a cat.

[Vogue Williams]

No, it is a castle. It is. No, but it's a cat as well. That's definitely the same with a cat. I know that.

[Joanne McNally]

I guess it's not that surprising that. That sex in the animal world isn't romantic and consensual.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah. I thought you. Now, this is not a funny video, but I just thought it was, like, so. Oh, it was his family, and they were in Wildlife park. And all the signs obviously say it was the tiger Wildlife Park. Don't get out of your car. Don't get out of your car. So this woman is in the car with her mother, who's in the back, and her husband and her and her husband are having this massive fight. She gets out of the car to walk around to his side of the door to have a go at him, and a tiger comes and pulls her away. Yeah. Gone.

[Joanne McNally]

No, she's not dead.

[Joe]

How does that video end?

[Vogue Williams]

It ends with her being dragged away, and then it says underneath that the mom tried to save her and the mom gone too. Yeah. I mean, oh, my God.

[Joanne McNally]

I'm.

[Vogue Williams]

I don't. What am I watching? Why am I getting served this?

[Joanne McNally]

It looks like something you'd see on lad Bible as a lesson to women to not challenge their male partners, doesn't it, that they're like, look, this is what you. This is what you got. Now keep your mouth shut. Yeah, that's what it sounds like. I think it's a setup.

[Vogue Williams]

It's interesting that Joanne had that take on it. My take on it was just don't get out of the car when you're in a safari park.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. Scrap inside, keep it safe.

[Vogue Williams]

Fight in the car, for God's sake. And I wouldn't be the one to get out of the car either. I'd be like, you get out.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, you get out of the car. Yeah, you would. You absolutely would.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, you would.

[Joanne McNally]

Speaking of scraps, which is a nice segue for us. Okay, we have to Talk about the 2 Macron scrapping on the plane. President Macron. Bridget Macron.

[Vogue Williams]

I know Macron.

[Joe]

Sorry, we're saying Macron probably.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, sorry.

[Joe]

Macron.

[Vogue Williams]

She's just trying to turn them Irish. She's trying to.

[Joanne McNally]

Macaroon. President Macaroon and his wife all starts kicking off Rooney.

[Vogue Williams]

So come here. Wait. Was tell the story but I want to know if it was actually confirmed if it was her because I could only see her jacket and I thought if that was me I'd be gone and changing my outfit and blaming.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, smart. That's a smart idea. Sadly, unfortunately for the Macrons, the Macaroons they were not as savvy. So it's definitely her. So President Macaroon, they come in, they're on the pj, the private jet. So they land in Hanoi and the door opens and it's. It's supposed to be like the reveal of the president, you know, wave, wave. All that kind of very presidential behavior. And they obviously didn't she. Bridget push it now? She didn't slap him. It was a shove in the face.

[Vogue Williams]

It was quite. It was quite the show though.

[Joanne McNally]

It was the full hand. It was.

[Vogue Williams]

She.

[Joanne McNally]

She fully palmed him. Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Like quite a quite rough.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, yeah. And then he see. He. He then sees that he's in full view of the global news and he kind of waves and then he goes out of view for a second and you can say clearly there was some. You know, he should come.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

And then they. And then they exit the plane together. They walk downstairs. He goes to offer her his arm and she does not take it. She does not take it. And of course, I mean the virality of a fox with syphilis everywhere.

[Vogue Williams]

What everyone nightmare. It was so bad. But regardless of what happened, like we have to point out she should not have done that to him because that's been aggressive. A physical. There's no need for it. No matter. I know you're tired from your long haul flight, but there's no need for that. But my God, they got stung so bad. It is. I saw that and I was like. And then I was. And then that's why I thought. Because you could only see her sleeve. And I was like, she. Because I was flying straight after I watched that video, I was like, she must. She should have just changed her outfit. And then people wouldn't say it was hers. So she kept the outfit on.

[Joanne McNally]

She had. Because it was almost an immediate. It was all immediate. Within a couple of seconds the whole thing happened.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh God.

[Joanne McNally]

But like, do you know what? You're right, she shouldn't have done it, obviously. But I think there's a lot worse going on in marriages and they were just very unfortunately captured in that moment. Like, she's. She. She started on the present, who also happens to be her husband. I don't know, like stressful. She probably. If she's anything like myself, she probably had a couple of space gins on board and she stung him for something, which I. I was thinking, like, what did she sing him for? Something happened. I was. It can't be an affair because the French don't care about that.

[Vogue Williams]

No. But also, can I just say, flying is stressful, but flying is not stressful. If you're flying on a pj, that is a jumbo jet. They have a jumbo jet.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, you're right. But flying is stressful. I don't know how the meals do it. I do know how they. I don't know how they do it. With the extra stress of being a meal, I might have to be wrecked.

[Vogue Williams]

They actually shouldn't be imprisoned. They shouldn't be. They should be rewarded.

[Joanne McNally]

They should be celebrated. Yeah. For the resilience that they show. I take my hats off to them.

[Vogue Williams]

What the human body can withstand a.

[Joanne McNally]

Condom the size of a billiard bow up their arse. And they're just sitting there taking it all in the duty free, buying bottles of Clarence. They're just. I don't know how they do it.

[Vogue Williams]

I haven't got my spf. I have to go back. They'll go back, get the SF course.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. One of those. I think I forgot my neck pillow cushion. Back they go.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

The other thing to say is when Brigitte Macron, she's a drama teacher, it could have been a very elaborate movement to music and he just got caught and he was on the receiving end of an intense jazz hand.

[Vogue Williams]

Just to say it was like. Okay, what's. What you call that again? When you're. When you improvise the.

[Joanne McNally]

The movement. Smack husband in the face. Smacky face.

[Joe]

Stage combat. That's a thing.

[Joanne McNally]

Stage combat.

[Vogue Williams]

Big fan of myself, as you know, Shakespeare, as you know, trained stage combater.

[Joanne McNally]

Pair of ninja chucks in her back pocket. She. But first. So firstly the. What they tried to do was write it off as AI.

[Vogue Williams]

They did.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. No, because there's been three. There's been two other videos this week that he. He says he's a victim of kind of those Russian bot farms. So there was a video that was a bit tailored to look. It Looked like he had a bag of coke on him. And there was something else that he was fighting with the Turkish president. There was other things. So they were saying off the back of that. They tried to say it was AI, but of course the robots are like, fucking leave us out of this. This has nothing to do with us. Then they came out and we're like, okay, look, it is us. It was just a bit of crack. We're just having a bit of fun. It's, you know, we're just having fun. It was a little squabble. It's all in good jest.

[Vogue Williams]

Well, the French are very animated, shall we say? So, like, I don't know. I mean, it was. It was just. I just. Because I used to, like, years ago, spending and I would have a fight and we could. We could be going on a jog together. And, you know, you say something, he's like, excuse me, excuse me. And we could have a fight in the middle of our jog. And I'm like, I'm not. I'm not talking with you anymore. And I'll literally slow down, jog off, and then imagine someone saw that, and I'm just like, whatever. I'm not talking to you. And I will literally. I won't jog.

[Joanne McNally]

Besides, I don't think there's any, like. I think when you see married couples fight, no one even finds it surprising or anything. They're just like, oh, yeah, that's kind of the deal, really, isn't it? Public 50 cuffs.

[Vogue Williams]

I just think you can't. Well, I mean, the fisticuff's not great, but you can't. You don't get on with everyone all the time. It's just not possible. Sometimes you're in bad form and sometimes they're in bad form, and then you're all just pissing each other off and.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, I would like to say have it on the record. I've never hit a man. My abuse is usually more psychological than that. I'm smart. I've never physically struck anyone, and may it stay that way.

[Vogue Williams]

I would more just scrap your brother.

[Joanne McNally]

I'm more just like a slow, gaslighting breakdown of their character and mental health. That's kind of my vibe.

[Vogue Williams]

I can't say I've never hit anyone because I did. My. My siblings and I used to quite enjoy that with each other. Amber and I could be a bit pushy with each other now still, if we. If we had a drink. Yeah, I didn't have a drink last night, and I ran a drink and she got that, you know, and someone's a bit. A bit drunk and they're like grabbing you for a hug and I'm like, you're her stop.

[Joanne McNally]

Yes, I have a friend and when she's a couple of drinks and she doesn't mean to, but she slap like she, she's. She tries to get your attention or, or to get her point across and she slap. She's a slapper. Not a slapper in the. Sorry. Not a slapper in the traditional sense. Not in the fun way. Do you know what I mean? She's a. She's a slapper in the. The physical act of slapping.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a kind slap.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a couple of drinks on. You're trying to get people's attention. It can be hard because no one wants to talk to you because you're locked.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, that's right. I was one bitten by one of my friends, like, and he was joking but like. Have you ever been bitten? It's bloody sore.

[Joanne McNally]

No, but I have bitten.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh no. Look at her. All claiming I have psychological damage. It's more.

[Joanne McNally]

I forgot. I bet. I know he wasn't zero. What? That wasn't a romantic. That wasn't a romantic squabble. That was a competition to see who could hold their arm in an ice bath for longest to win drink. And it looked like he was gonna take the prize, so I bit his arm.

[Vogue Williams]

Sure. We know that competition well, don't we, Joe?

[Joanne McNally]

Have I? I always win. Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Ouch.

[Joanne McNally]

The indent of the teeth. Yeah. If I ever go missing, they won't need my dental records. They just go around to all the people I bit to get drink off the wall.

[Vogue Williams]

As usual.

[Joanne McNally]

I'm on tour all over Ireland, the UK and Dubai. Oh, sorry. I need to also push Birmingham and Liverpool because I keep forgetting I'm going there. Birmingham, Liverpool, done.

[Vogue Williams]

You've never bit me. I feel sad.

[Joanne McNally]

I've never bitten you. No, no, I've never bitten you.

[Vogue Williams]

I had a question last night. I had a snog marry avoid. And you were. It was Joanne McNally, John Belton and weirdy Gordon Ramsay. And I know I had to avoid him obviously. And I said that I'd sleep with you only because we're both as lazy as each other. So we just end up nothing.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, so the snog marry avoid. Get frisky. Thank you. Delighted to be involved. The snog marry avoid thing is I think marry is like where you kind of go for the personality, isn't it's like this snog is the sexier. Like, I'd ride them, and then the marry is like, I'd probably. I could build a life with them.

[Vogue Williams]

Well, we did shag, marry, avoid.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm glad I won that round over John Belton.

[Vogue Williams]

Well, I didn't. I would rather. I don't know, It'd be weird. He's married and stuff like that. I just think that we will eventually end up together. You know what I mean? It just feels right.

[Joanne McNally]

I love that we're bringing, like, the ethics of it all in. I was like, I couldn't possibly. He's very happy married.

[Vogue Williams]

I couldn't break up a family.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

I don't want to give to you.

[Joanne McNally]

I don't want to let him know it's an option because he'll leave his wife. We all know he would.

[Vogue Williams]

Have you seen his wife? He certainly would not.

[Joanne McNally]

She's like a movie star.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah. She's unbelievable.

[Joanne McNally]

She's unbelievable.

[Vogue Williams]

I'd marry him to get to her.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bring her into our bed.

[Vogue Williams]

I'll bring her home with me like a pet.

[Joanne McNally]

You'll have noticed that all the podcasters and YouTubers at the moment are posting videos of them being AI babies. They're getting turned into AI babies.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

And it's very cute and fun and charming, and they're adults having adult conversations as AI babies. So I suggested. I was like, why do we become AI Babies for a video? So Joe tried to get it done for free on the cheap. And the video he sent us to say, I rolled around laughing.

[Joe]

Now, I did qualify. I did say I am aware that this is not of a quality that.

[Vogue Williams]

We could use while I was Joe, you say that about every. You say that about every video you send us because we have you so terrible to paint the footage.

[Joanne McNally]

We're like, oh, did you actually just Photoshop into us an uglier version of ourselves? But the video you sent with AI Baby, I couldn't stop laughing. My baby is. I mean, I would call her, like, 80s lesbian. Like, that kind of very stereotypical lesbian look. Shaved head, chain, black tracksuit, butch. It's a butch baby.

[Vogue Williams]

I thought yours was quite sweet. It's only because I was at the flower show that day, and I'm wearing my Chelsea flower show dress, where I was dressed as a femme. Femme.

[Joanne McNally]

You look way more femme. And a baby. And also, you look a little older than me as a baby. Vogue. If you don't mind me saying, I'd.

[Vogue Williams]

Say about nine to 12 months. You're probably three to six.

[Joanne McNally]

I look. Yeah. Do you think?

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, I thought you looked great.

[Joanne McNally]

I look like a Garbage Pail Kid. Do you remember them? I look like a garbage Pail kid. Do you remember that?

[Vogue Williams]

Cabbage Patch or a Garbage pail?

[Joanne McNally]

Remember the Garbage Pail Kids? They're really like kind of horror babies. I forget. Joe's so young. They're like, I don't know.

[Vogue Williams]

The garbage pail babies.

[Joanne McNally]

1987 film, Garbage Pail Kids used to collect the cards and, like, my baby.

[Vogue Williams]

I do remember them. Oh, my God.

[Joanne McNally]

They're all babies covered in bl. And all. They were like. Yeah, they all had rattles where they'd kill, like, covered in blood, and they come out of the bins and it was like, you know. Cool babies, I guess you'd say.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Babies with a bit of bite.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. I look like a Garbage Pail kid. Obviously. I. I was like, I have to post that one now. It's you talking about your seeds and your tits and me telling you to rein it in.

[Vogue Williams]

I haven't brought it up. I took notes from that video I rewatched and I was like, oh, yeah, she said that. I won't do that now. I'm not saying a word. I'm not saying a word.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, she's going on the grid now. The Sea Tits.

[Vogue Williams]

The sea tits. Someone just mailed me something from that. You know that I posted a wedding video. A wedding video of me in the silver dress that I wore, and I had a giant brown. And somebody just commented on it, and they were like sunflower seeds.

[Joanne McNally]

I'm like, no, don't encourage her.

[Vogue Williams]

Do always do.

[Joanne McNally]

We need to get her under the knife.

[Vogue Williams]

Who's that?

[Joanne McNally]

Which one's that?

[Vogue Williams]

Who's that? You have to say hello.

[Joanne McNally]

Hi, Otto, can you hear me? No, Joa, can you lip read? Yes.

[Vogue Williams]

Joe, say. Joe, say, see you later, guys. Yeah. Say my therapist ghosted me.

[Joanne McNally]

Prepare this.

[Vogue Williams]

Go to me.

[Joanne McNally]

Perfect. Perfect.

[Vogue Williams]

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[Joanne McNally]

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