Brooklyn, Morocco & Heated Rivalry

Summary

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My Therapist Ghosted Me

Episode Summary: Brooklyn, Morocco & Heated Rivalry

Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Date: January 23, 2026

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Main Theme

This episode offers a hilarious, candid conversation between Vogue and Joanne as they catch up in-studio. They weave personal stories, pop culture analysis, and sharp banter around three big topics: Joanne’s wet and wild trip to Morocco (and her newfound appreciation for Moroccan men), a deep-dive into the recent drama within the Beckham family (specifically Brooklyn Beckham’s explosive public statement), and their enthusiastic review of the gay hockey romance series “Heated Rivalry.” The tone is irreverent, confessional, and gossipy, with rapid-fire asides, pop culture detours, and classic MTGM honesty.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Makeup Mishaps and Viral Irish Scandals (00:23–01:03)

• Joanne races to make the podcast, resulting in mismatched foundation, and recounts a viral story of an American influencer whose Irish romance went south.
  • Memorable moment: Vogue and Joanne laugh at the rollercoaster romance saga turned cheating scandal.

2. Holidays, Thirst Traps, and Moroccan Weather (01:03–03:58)

• The duo reveals they’re planning a team holiday—except producer Joe, who’s invited knowing he can’t actually join.
• Joanne laments her rain-soaked scuba trip in Morocco, which spoiled her plan for an “annual thirst trap” bikini photo:
  • [02:03] “This was supposed to be a sun holiday...for my annual thirst trap.” — Joanne
• Vogue jokes about using AI to add abs to holiday photos.
• Discussion on packing for sun in Morocco and realization that Africa can be freezing.
  • [02:40] “People were like, bring a hot water bottle, bring a fleece, bring mittens, bring a hat!” — Joanne

3. Social Media, Body Image, and Fashion Lights (03:58–04:55)

• They commiserate on bad dressing room lighting, comparing the terror of Zara and hairdresser lights.
• [04:29] “When you get your hair painted to your head, you’re like, I am monstrous.” — Vogue

4. Conspiracy Theories & The Moon Landing (04:55–06:31)

• Joanne shares her interest in “light” conspiracy theories, mentioning a client who claims Buzz Aldrin denied landing on the moon.
• Joe fact-checks in real-time, explaining Buzz Aldrin’s comments were about TV animations, not a moon landing denial.
• They briefly muse on AI-generated fake news.

5. Moroccan Men, Culture, and Travel Personalities (06:31–09:56)

• Joanne is dazzled by the attractiveness of Moroccan men, joking about religious conversion and sharing stories of taxi driver flirtations:
  • [06:31] “When I say it is wall to wall knockouts...I was aghast.” — Joanne
  • [07:02] “I’m going to try and marry that taxi driver and live a very happy life.” — Joanne
• Light banter about travel etiquette, covering ankles, and Vogue googling “Moroccan men.”
• The pair talk about their mutual friend Andrea, the hyper-organized “logistics officer,” who makes traveling easy for everyone else.

6. Etiquette Abroad and Writing Off Holidays (09:56–11:11)

• Chat about Japanese manners (not eating while walking), writing off travel as business expenses, and the necessity of vlogging for tax purposes.
• Vogue and Joanne joke about creative “write offs”—from TV subscriptions to school fees.

7. Heated Rivalry: Queer Romance TV Deep-Dive (11:11–14:32)

• Rapturous review of “Heated Rivalry,” a TV series about gay ice hockey players:
  • [12:16] “It’s all about gay athletes, and...the sex in it was quite meaningful.” — Joanne
  • [12:36] “I’m learning romance from two gay ice hockey players; this is not on my bingo card.” — Joanne
  • [14:09] “It’s made me want to be a gay man.” — Vogue
• Discussion about the show’s explicitness, representation, and the main actors’ real-life sexualities.
• Giddy speculation on sex scene choreography and impact on female audiences.

8. Enoch Burke: Irish Media Oddity (14:46–16:22)

• They lampoon the persistence of Enoch Burke, an irate teacher embroiled in an infamous Irish gender identity controversy, noting his continued protests and full salary.
  • [15:39] “He’s been turning up at the school relentlessly ever since and getting arrested repeatedly. Let it go, Enoch. Even Jesus has moved on.” — Joanne

9. Dancing with the Stars & Family Hustles (16:22–18:30)

• Vogue beams with pride over her sister Amber’s Dancing With the Stars journey, admiring her growth and perseverance.
• Honest commentary on the grind of live TV tapings and ceaseless audience applause.
• Anecdote about overzealous airport arrivals from their mothers.

10. Packing Disasters and Missed Northern Lights (19:46–21:18)

• Musical suitcases: Joanne reveals her 32kg (!) luggage vs. travel companion Laura’s 9.3kg.
• The “just in case” syndrome; happiness in overpacking.
• Mourning another missed chance to see the Northern Lights.

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11. Brooklyn Beckham Family Fallout: In-depth Analysis (21:18–41:52)

A. Backstory & Rumors (21:18–27:24)

• The Beckhams vs. Brooklyn: Recap of missed family events, rumblings of a rift starting with Brooklyn’s marriage to Nicola Peltz (heiress to the Wendy’s fortune).
• Tabloid tales: unfollows, blocks, legal letters, and wedding planners-from-hell.
• [22:42] “Brooklyn Beckham has married into money. I think the Beckhams were not expecting the prenup to go the other way.” — Joanne

B. Nicola Peltz Wealth & Family Dynamics (23:21–25:18)

• Analysis of Nicola’s family fortune, her many siblings, and how inheritance gets spread thin.
• Side banter on wedding table seating, grannies at the top table, and the etiquette of family inclusion.

C. Wedding Day Drama & Lap Dance Allegation (26:03–31:08)

• Brooklyn’s bombshell multi-page statement alleges family toxicity and Victoria’s inappropriate dancing at his wedding.
• [28:20] “He absolutely tears into his parents. A verbal grenade.” — Joanne
• The hosts defend Victoria (“I’m Team Posh!”) and question the accusation’s validity.
• [30:53] “She’s a Spice Girl. Of course you dance sexily. I don’t think she’s gonna be, like, gyrating on her son.” — Vogue

D. Media Frenzy, Memes, & Public Reaction (31:08–33:09)

• How the story has gone international, even appearing on political podcasts and shows.
• Reaction from wedding guests (e.g., DJ Fat Tony) and fleeting Instagram comments.
• [32:54] “Is everyone drunk online? ... Did he wake up and not remember?” — Joanne

E. Hypotheses & Family Psychology (33:09–41:52)

• David and Victoria’s response: calm, nonreactive, “the door is always open.”
• Comparing Brooklyn to Prince Harry—publicizing family grievances.
• Vogue and Joanne debate whether therapy and social media contributed to Brooklyn’s rift.
  • [39:30] “Sometimes I think … a therapist can kind of turn you against people sometimes. … They’re kind of planting things in your head.” — Vogue
• Joanne suggests Brooklyn is pampered, poorly advised, and perhaps too influenced by outside parties.
• Conclude that his complaints are “spoiled brat” level and likely to produce regret.
• [38:04] “This stinks of just spoiled brat.” — Vogue
• Sympathy for the Beckhams, sadness at publicly aired family conflict.

12. Pop Culture Lightning Round & Rebecca Loos Returns (41:52–43:01)

• Emma Bunton Instagram fake-outs.
• Rebecca Loos surfaces with old Beckham grievances.
• Bartlett drama previewed for next episode.

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Notable Quotes

• [02:03] Joanne: "This was supposed to be a sun holiday...for my annual thirst trap."
• [06:31] Joanne: "When I say it is wall to wall knockouts...I was aghast."
• [12:16] Joanne: "It’s all about gay athletes, and...the sex in it was quite meaningful."
• [14:09] Vogue: "It’s made me want to be a gay man."
• [22:42] Joanne: "Brooklyn Beckham has married into money. I think the Beckhams were not expecting the prenup to go the other way."
• [24:16] Joanne: "You'd be assassinating them all. … How to kill your family."
• [28:20] Joanne: “He absolutely tears into his parents. A verbal grenade.”
• [30:53] Vogue: “She’s a Spice Girl. Of course you dance sexily. I don’t think she’s gonna be, like, gyrating on her son.”
• [39:30] Vogue: “Sometimes I think … a therapist can kind of turn you against people sometimes.”
• [38:04] Vogue: “This stinks of just spoiled brat.”
• [36:36] Joanne: "I’m Team Posh. … Her perfume’s sensational. I don’t care if she gave her son a lap dance at his wedding."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------|-----------------| | Viral Irish love story | 00:24–01:03 | | Morocco travel misadventure | 02:03–03:58 | | Moroccan men appreciation | 06:31–08:02 | | Heated Rivalry TV review | 11:11–14:32 | | Enoch Burke/Irish school controversy | 14:46–16:22 | | Brooklyn Beckham family drama | 21:18–41:52 | | Wedding day lap dance allegations | 29:43–31:08 | | Pop culture memes & Rebecca Loos returns | 41:52–43:01 |

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Tone & Style

Unfiltered, quick-witted, reckless with pop culture, and intimate. Vogue and Joanne maintain their signature blend of Irish humour, pointed honesty, and utter disregard for PR polish.

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Recap

If you missed this episode, you missed a rollicking journey: from icy Moroccan “thirst traps” thwarted by bad weather, through viral Irish tabloid sagas, to the mother of all family bust-ups in the Beckhams’ inner circle. Along the way, Joanne and Vogue dissected the sex appeal of “Heated Rivalry,” poked at UK and Irish oddballs, and delivered a whirlwind, meme-infused, take-no-prisoners verdict on Brooklyn Beckham’s public drama. Their advice—half joking, half wise—is clear: always think twice before posting, and if your son accuses you of lap dancing at a billionaire wedding, just keep dancing.

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Next week: More on the Stephen Bartlett and Chris Williamson drama, plus updates on the Brooklyn/Beckham rift if (when!) more goes down.

Transcript

[A]

This is a Global Player original podcast. Hello and welcome to My Therapist Goes with me. With me Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally. And we are together in studio.

[B]

We're together in studio.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now, I. If anyone's looking at this, my neck is a different color to my face because I got the wrong time for the podcast and I've just thrown. I've just splattered a load of foundation. Yeah, splattered. I just got vote to spray a load of foundation on my face. I have to say to you. Did you hear that? Did you see the story that went viral about the American influencer and an Irish guy slipped into her DMs and she fell in love with him and moved to Ireland to set up her life with them?

[A]

No, she's just.

[B]

Because she. They were doing Morning Ireland and all. They did loads of press around it and she's just come back to say he's been cheating on her. Oh, no, I'm not laughing at this. I'm just laughing at, like the rig morale and the romantic story and everyone was like, it was such a lovely story.

[A]

We're going on holidays.

[B]

We're going on holidays.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We're going on a team building exercise. Joe. Sorry, you.

[A]

We're go. We're going on holidays.

[C]

When you use the word team, it sort of makes it sound like you're going.

[A]

Joe, there's no iron team. Okay? This isn't about you.

[B]

Yeah. Because you're not. So it's team, but it's not.

[C]

There's a V and a J.

[A]

You can come. You've got two small kids and a dog at home.

[B]

This is the great thing about inviting Joe because you know he can't go.

[A]

Yeah, you can come.

[C]

Just feels a bit like an afterthought. But just sure as you can come.

[A]

We've invited. You know, Joanne and I decided. Joan said last night, listen, I'm desperate to go on holidays. I'll even go. What did I actually have to get the message?

[B]

I said, I'll even go with you and your family till I say that.

[A]

You said just the way you said it. Where is it? Let's plan something. I'm willing to go with your family. Like a sign.

[B]

Like a sidecar.

[A]

I said, no, they're not coming.

[B]

Yeah, I was in. I was on the plane coming home from my scuba trip in Morocco where it just rained all the time and it was absolutely freezing cold. So before the. This was supposed to be a sun holiday. This was, though, you know, this was for my annual thirst trap. Yeah. I Did an annual thirst trap in Cape Town and I dined it, dined off it for the whole year. And it's time to do another thirst trap now. I did enjoy myself a bit over Christmas. I'm not in the same shape I was. It doesn't matter. You can post, put the abs on in AI and post or whatever. I was like, I can get a design, a digital guy to put the. Put the abs on. But I was packing. I was getting my bikinis ready and the people were mastering. They're like, it's freezing.

[A]

I just didn't. I never thought Morocco got cold.

[B]

Me neither.

[A]

It's in Africa.

[B]

People were like, bring a. Someone's like, bring a hot water bottle. Someone was like, bring a fleece, bring mittens, bring a hat.

[A]

Did you pack properly? Cuz you're fine.

[B]

I. I did okay. I bought a big jacket, which I really needed anyway. And then you need a poofa. I brought a puffer.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

And Vogue. Unlike yourself, I can't do thirst traps in bad weather. I have to be a little more demure. You can get away with this.

[A]

I do. Listen, I do it in the snow.

[B]

Exactly. But I need more of a creative arc. I need a journey. It needs to be more authentic. If I'm just in my bikini in the snow, people think I was having a nervous breakdown.

[A]

I would use the rain as a prop. You know what I mean? I would say, isn't this funny?

[B]

Yeah, you'd be dancing in the rain and be sexy and attractive.

[A]

No, not sexy and attractive. Just trying to. Trying to sell time. Really? Yeah.

[B]

But you get away with the beep beeps. You get away with the snowy beep beep.

[A]

Why don't you just hang your anxious, preoccupied bags off your nipples and say, I'm doing it for marketing.

[B]

The two micros. Two of the micro bags on each nipple. It's not a bad idea actually. Sell them your fanny packs.

[A]

Yeah, don't have bikini bottoms on. Just have a fanny pack.

[B]

So I was desperately disappointed. So I know the. The lads who follow me are going to be. I'm sorry, guys. You're gonna have to wait for the annual purse drop.

[A]

There is no wank mike material this month.

[B]

This month is dry.

[A]

I'm taking her away. We're going to Greece.

[B]

Dry traps.

[A]

We're not going to now. Greece is cold now. We're not going there till like May.

[B]

Unless. Unless I can feed you up. You're not going anywhere in a bikini with you for a thirst trap.

[A]

I'll be the Photographer.

[B]

No. Yeah, fine. I'm like, you can't squat for a month before you come away with me. V, if there isn't a bit of cellulite, I'm not going.

[A]

There is, don't worry, it's always there. I'll go under. I'll go under those Zara lights.

[B]

Zara lights.

[A]

The lights in the dressing room there are offensive.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Hairdresser lights. Always the words. You're like, God, I knew I was ugly, but I didn't think I was that ugly.

[A]

Oh, and then when you get your hair painted to your head, you're like, I am monstrous.

[B]

With all the tin foil and all. You look like Joe.

[A]

Jesus. No.

[B]

What's his man joke? Jim Core. Do you know what? I was actually. I was in the hairdressers the other day. I went in and got a violently good blow. Drying brown sugar in Dublin. Shout out to them. But I was chatting to somebody whose name I will not say, just in case she doesn't want to be.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Known that she's having these conversations. We got into a bit of conspiracy chat and she. She was. You like conspiracy? I said, I do. I'm. I think it's. I think more Fact finder is what I like to call myself.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Rather than conspiracy theorist. I said, you know, I like a light one. Like a fun one, you know, not. I'm not into, like, the kind of. Moon landing was a film set. And she said, well, actually, she says, Buzz Aldrin has come out to say he never went.

[A]

Buzz Aldrin did come out to say he never went.

[B]

I meant to look into the moon landing thing.

[A]

He did. He said he bulls Aldrin. Spencer was interviewing an astronaut, as you do on his podcast, and. And he was interviewing an astronaut, and he. He asked the astronaut about Buzz Aldrin's comments. Because Buzz Aldrin had just come out. Your man got really pissed off and was like, that's really stupid. Why would you ask a question like that? It's like Buzz Aldrin literally said he didn't land on the moon.

[B]

Yeah. Is he? That's a really genuine question. You can't get annoyed about that.

[A]

Isn't that true, Joe?

[C]

I got a headline here from Reuters in 2022. Fact check. Buzz Aldrin interview about moon landing is not proof that it was faked.

[A]

No, it's not proof, but Buzz Aldrin did say it, and he was on the moon.

[C]

He was referring to animations used by broadcasters at the time in their coverage of the moon landing. Intercut with real footage. The moon landing did take place and men did walk on the moon.

[A]

I mean, you just don't know. It's the AI stuff. Did you see that thing about Russia being under all that snow? That wasn't real. Did you see that this week? All the, all the sky rises, all the high rises, buildings. Sorry. Were all under all the snow up to like the 71st floor. And I was like, what? Yeah, but it wasn't true. I just found out today. Tell me about Morocco.

[B]

So the men, Gorgeous. When I say it is wall to wall knockouts. They're just flat. They are. I was aghast. I was taken aback. And when I say I was vibing one taxi driver, I was like, I'm willing to convert to Islam. So I bought the Quran off Amazon. I'll get the audible version to go. It says it's 175 hours.

[A]

100.

[B]

I'll do a lot of translations, a lot of Google Translate. So I'm not getting the nails put on for a while because I'm going to be flat out trying to translate the Quran. Then I'm going to go back.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm going to try and marry that taxi driver and live a very happy life.

[A]

Are they just so gorgeous?

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Oh my.

[A]

Were they into you? Were they into you?

[B]

A hundred percent.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Well, I was paying him, so I don't know. He was mad, mad about me.

[A]

Let me. Hang on. I want to Google Moroccan men.

[B]

Gorgeous. One of them had me dressed. He put me. He put the scarf on me and all.

[A]

Stop. Oh my God. He was really into.

[B]

Well, that was a different guy. That was a guy in the market again. He was trying to sell.

[A]

Oh my God. Did you not see me Google Moroccan men here? What the hell?

[B]

I know. We are robbed over here.

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In danger of generalizing a little bit. I'm sure there's Morocco.

[B]

It's positive racism, Joe.

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There is a few Moroccan and miners, but it's mainly a top 10ers, I'm.

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Telling you now, even like I was. We went. We went to a farmhouse. Hell, look at him.

[A]

Jesus. Was that the taxi driver?

[B]

Similar vibes.

[A]

Oh my.

[B]

No one can see, but I think she's googled a perfume model.

[A]

Yes, but he's Moroccan.

[B]

There you go. War to wall rides.

[A]

I used to always say Iranians were the hottest nation, but the Moroccans are really coming up fast here.

[B]

Well, they're coming up fast there. It just goes to show Moroccan women.

[A]

Hang on. Just to be. Just to be equal. Oh my God. To be Tough, Tough.

[B]

In Morocco it would be.

[A]

They'd like something a bit different, though, which would be nice, because maybe they're used to those rides.

[B]

Yeah, well, I had my ankles out, so I think that was the big interest. That was. I was getting a lot of attention from the ankles ice. You're not allowed to have your ankles out.

[A]

Really? I'm not letting my ankles out, but that's a personal choice.

[B]

You fly over there, finally get to cover up those hideous ankles. She's been holding you back for years.

[A]

Tell us about Morocco. The first trip you've ever been on that actually. And even though you paid for it, you could have actually gone on that trip for free as a press trip because you did good pictures for the first time.

[B]

I know I did. I did good. I did good footage. I know. I've kind of. I'm in my bougie era. We stayed in, really, because I went with two friends who you know as well.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And when I say it was like an ongoing joke, I was like, what's happening now? I hadn't a clue.

[A]

Oh, Andrea is in charge of ourselves.

[B]

We have a mutual friend, Andrea Horn, who owns Tropical Popcorn, and she is. When I say I'm typey anyway, but when someone else takes the lead, my God, do I take the photo off the gas?

[A]

Oh, my God. I wouldn't even. I would give her my passport in the airport and everything if I was traveling with Andrea.

[B]

Well, she actually asked me at one point, joanne, where's your passport? And I looked her and I went, you have it, don't you? What you do.

[A]

I went to New York with her before, and she did all that stuff.

[B]

It was insane. She is like a machine. She is like a logistics officer. I literally was like, what are we doing now? Where we are?

[A]

And you didn't book that place not to talk.

[B]

Hadn't a clue where I was going. I was just sitting in the back of a taxi, smiling, flirting with the driver. Been driven around Morocco. Hadn't a clue. We got out, we ate, we got back in. But we were actually trying not to swear because Andrea had done a bit of research about the trip. She was like. She was the one who was like, cover your ankles, you. So she was like, don't swear to behave yourself.

[A]

I mean, I think it's rude to be swearing at anyone in anyone's company. I read this thing about the Japanese. I saw. Actually, I saw it on Instagram, and this guy said, when you're in Japan, you're not allowed to walk around eating. So like, if you buy something off a street vendor, you have to stand there and eat it. You can't just leave and walk because it's viewed as really rude.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Japan has a lot of rules.

[A]

I feel I'm desperate to go.

[B]

I'd love to go. We should do a show there and then we can write it off.

[A]

Yeah, we should do. That's. We'll just start doing show. We want to write stuff off.

[B]

Yeah. How do we write stuff off? I don't even know what that means, but let's do it.

[A]

I always.

[B]

What are you doing? I'm writing it off.

[A]

I can't write anything off. Neil looks after everything. He's like, what's this? I'm like, neil, that's a general experience. Write it off. Neil God it off.

[B]

And then no one knows anything about.

[A]

No. Gets the kids school fees. Write it off. They were on the ferry ad.

[B]

I was vlogging at the school. Write it off. It's a business expense. A lot of time sitting in the rain in Morocco. There was some tensions over uno, I think, you know, there was a lot of times sitting in there. Yeah. Great game.

[A]

I watched heated rivalry. Joanne, text me, text me. And she said, you have to watch it now. And I said, but I don't have. My sky's down. I've just moved out. She goes, you have to get the now TV up. And I was like, I'm not getting that app. And then I realized it was a tenner for the month and I could probably afford to get the app.

[B]

You can write it off.

[A]

I have. I've written that off. Sent on to Neil with the receipt, and she insisted that I watched it.

[B]

Heated rivalry, which is for anyone who hasn't watched it, for anyone who's been living under a rock. It is a TV show based on a book about some gay ice hockey.

[A]

Players, and it is everything you would expect and work now. I was watching on the plane and I had to turn my phone away from people because it is like the sex scenes are quite. I don't like sex noises when they're not coming from me.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I know. You're like, you'd rather everyone else stay silent. Take this at the. Take to the stage. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was.

[A]

But the noises are so intense. And it's like.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There.

[A]

It's only six episodes. There's gonna be a second season.

[B]

Yes. Because this, the way it finished, left it wide open. It's basically how kind of, you know, it's all about gay athletes and how you know a lot of them and then these. But what was lovely about it was that the sex in it was quite meaningful. Like, it was. I was like, I'm learning romance from two gay ice hockey players. This is not my bingo card. It was very.

[A]

I've never seen such full on gay sex scenes. Yeah, they were brilliant.

[B]

They were brilliant.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'd say they had a lot of intimacy coordinators and stuff. But then I, I googled, obviously the actors and they're so tight. Your man, the Russian guy is so camp in real life.

[A]

But they haven't come out and said if they're gay or straight. Ah, Jesus, I know what they have. And they said, it doesn't matter. What, what, what? Our sexuality.

[B]

I can go to all of them.

[A]

Yeah, but your man Hunter is bi. Bi. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

That scene where his partner comes down, this is a spoiler. This is a spoiler. So if you're gonna listen, don't listen to this. I'm always getting rinsed for spoiling things. Oh, he calls his partner down to the ice rink. I. I rewound it and I cried, Jo. Not ashamed to say I cried. My eyes got wet. Nothing fell down the cheeks, but the eyes got wet.

[A]

I had foliage of. Yeah, I was just beautiful. So nice, honestly. And then I got right back into a sex scene and I was like, jesus, I don't need the VPN anymore. I turned it off. I've got. I've got fe to driveway.

[B]

It's brilliant.

[A]

The Russian fellas are the best art you've. Like, that's my dream ass for myself. Like.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I guess. And he's not even a top. Honestly. He's not even a bottom. He's a top.

[A]

I was trying to figure out. Some of the times I was trying to figure out, were they swapping?

[B]

I don't. I know. I think the, the Russian is very much the top. It was top five. And then the other guy is a bit more demure. He's the bottom. Because remember when the, when the, when the other guy tried to go out with a woman and she was like, the sex is lacking. And he goes, yeah, I prefer, I prefer to be the howl rather than the peg.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. So he was about him. It's made me want to be a gay man.

[B]

Well, so I did. I was thinking about this because I was like, am I a gay man now? And apparently it's huge with women, right? There's women, but we're not, we're not gay men. What? We are is we're straight women. We're very attracted to the. The male physique. And the sex is hot.

[A]

The sex is really hot. And they're hot.

[B]

And it's a love story. They're falling in love.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

You know. But anyway, women are going in their droves to it. It's absolutely huge. They've blown up.

[A]

I know. I cannot wait for another season. I saw that. Did you see that? Waterford whispers about it. There's this really funny Instagram page. Waterford whis prison. It was like Enoch Burke. So just watch Heated Driver because it might give him something else to do. He is so odd.

[B]

Do you know Enoch Burke?

[A]

Hell well.

[B]

Oh, my. Only the other day I was saying that the child in the middle of the whole controversy is probably graduated in a grandparent at this stage. And he's still turning up the school gates and sending himself back to prison every weekend.

[A]

Absolutely. He is unwell, that man.

[B]

Do you know that he will. Yeah. It's all. It's all.

[A]

I mean, he's so.

[B]

Yeah. But you know, he's getting a full salary from the Department of Education. Enoch Burke. There was a. There was an issue in an Irish school years ago where the headmaster told Enoch Burke that there was a child at the school who was. Who was non binary and wanted to be referred to as they.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The child wasn't even in Enoch's class.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And Enoch said, no, not doing it. I'm not calling the child they or them. And of course, you know the way these things kick off.

[A]

And he took a massive stand when it actually, like he didn't need to.

[B]

Wasn't necessary at all.

[A]

It's not appropriate.

[B]

No. But he was saying it was then he became about his religious rights and all this jazz. And then he just started. He was. He was let go or he was. He was suspended, I think for acting the bollocks. And he's. This was years ago and he's been turning up to the skill. He's been turning up the skill relentlessly ever since. And getting arrested repeatedly. Let it go, Enoch. Even Jesus has moved on.

[A]

But you have to. That level of persistence. There's nothing I care about enough to have.

[B]

I know Jesus.

[A]

Right. Leave them alone. I know you're looking like a creep hanging out around the school. Go home.

[B]

And his family and all.

[A]

I mean, they need. Go home and watch Heated Rivalry.

[B]

I'll tell you. And his family are us protesting with them all the time now. And what I will say to that family is if you're going to be on tv. Get a stylist. The style is lacking. Styles lacking.

[A]

Well, I went back to Ireland to watch Amber on Dancing with the Stars.

[B]

Tell me everything.

[A]

She, she's a better dancer than me.

[B]

I said to Vogue, I said, I'm going to ring, I'm going to text Amber and say that she's, she's done a really good job.

[A]

She's setting up sky in my room for you. I have been in that house for so long. And I said to Joan, I said, joanne, you can go and you can stay in my house when you're home for, for junior shows. And I was like, oh, I'll set up sky for her. I'm like, you little. Been in that room for two years. You've never set up Skype for me.

[B]

I was wondering, do you know what this is? This is Amber trying to keep me in my room. That's exactly what that is. Because I was like, oh, that's so.

[A]

Because then she was like, does she want the apartment? Because there's a little apartment downstairs. And I was like, I don't know, I'll ask her. I haven't really thought about this.

[B]

I can't wait to go and hang out with Amber. But I said to Vogue, I was like, I'm going to text Amber and say, congratulations, you did a really good job. Because I got quite emotional watching her now. I had had a bottle of wine and you were like, she wouldn't appreciate the light.

[A]

The first.

[B]

But she's on a journey.

[A]

I know the first week she was shite. She was like the Tin Man. She wasn't good. And then she did quite well the second week this week she didn't do as well as week before. But I loved her dance this week. I thought she was absolutely brilliant. And she's getting up in front because I was in the audience this week and there's about 200 people in the audience and she's getting up and she's doing it in front of everyone and I just thought it was so amazing. She's also still doing her full time job. I know she's doing the pod and then she's doing that. She' like non stop.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And she's hustling.

[B]

She's on the climb, she's on the make.

[A]

She is. She is on a journey. I think she's going to do quite well.

[B]

She's really good. At the start she'd be gone.

[A]

I think people just like everyone to go on a journey though, if you're. And you start getting better. And she's making a real effort. So now I did. I told her I'd go back again. But you know yourself. I know, sitting in an audience and I had to stand up to you. I had to stand up about 11 times. Clapping for people. No, it must have been more actually because there's 11 people by 15 times. I have to keep standing up. And I know that sounds ridiculous, but I was actually.

[B]

Yeah, 15 stands is a lot.

[A]

15 stands and like loads of clothes.

[B]

That's a lot of travel.

[A]

I know it was. I was bloody wrecked. And then I was like, the next one, if you're still in that one, I'll come to that one. And now I'm like it for.

[B]

If you've ever been to a lot or a TV record, there's a lot of clapping. There's a lot of clapping.

[A]

Crazy. And now what I will say is it was a very. It was a, A quick enough record obviously because it's a live show.

[B]

So I said Jennifer and Laura.

[A]

Yeah, I just went home.

[B]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

I didn't even wait for Amber to get out of her dress. I you later. Cuz I had Gina and Alo and stuff with me. Gina flew over. Gina flew over with me. She. I got to the airport, I text her 20 to 8 in the morning when I left my house in Battersea. And I was like, what are you doing? She's like, I'm sitting, having a coffee and a croissant in the airport. And I was like, it's early air flights at 10 to 10. And I got to the airport, she had gotten up at four in the morning and she got to the airport at 7. You know what people get like, like my mom is a weirdo. I was like, Gina, you've been sitting here since 7am and she's like, yeah, I feel much better about that. Yeah.

[B]

She's exactly like, pat, Pat. I was like, pat, you could literally train to be a pilot. The amount of time that you're. The amount of ahead time you're in the airport, you can literally train and be and fly the plane yourself. She's the exact same. Because she can't relax until she's in the airport. Because we travel a lot, we're like, I'm. I'm kind of running in as they're pulling up the planks.

[A]

Oh, me too. I'm just like the very last second. I also love airport people watching, by the way, is the best thing in the whole entire world.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because obviously I had loads of time because I was sitting there with Gina. And then of course, she put a bag in for two nights. So I was like, God, now I have to make your epoxy bag.

[B]

Listen to this because we are going to get on to the Brooklyn Beckham drama in a second. Get. Okay. One of the girls on the trip. Laura and Andrea and myself.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Guess how much my bag weighed?

[A]

22 kilos up.

[C]

How many nights so you're beyond standard.

[A]

How many nights so you have to Pay excess package. Not.32.32. Oh, my God.

[B]

Guess how much Laura's bag weight.

[A]

Eight.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

9.3. I was like, why are you. How. Wait, how so? Mine was so heavy. We together. I took I to help the taxi man get it in the car.

[A]

32?

[B]

Yeah. I'm insane.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

Yeah, but you'd rather just have on. I did that in Spain. I. Jane Spenny's mom had a carry on and I had this massive bag. And then by the end of it, I realized I'd forgot bikinis. I'd forgot everything. Jane had literally everything. It's like this just endless sack of stuff being pulled out.

[B]

Yeah, I'm terrible. I'm. I went to Paris court hotel for one night. 20kgs. I don't know how I do it. I think I'm so bad at decision making. It's that it's. I can't risk not pack.

[A]

I started to look at my stuff, though, and I'm like, I don't care. And I know I'm happy too much. And I'm like, I don't care. It makes me happy. Do you know what we missed again two nights in a row? The Northern Lights. We missed them again. I think they're just like, I'm not that concerned anymore because they were around last year. They'll be back next year probably.

[B]

Yeah, those things are. They're always around.

[A]

Okay, my moment, our moment has come. I know it was getting weird how much I was obsessed with it, but I don't want to say I told you so, but I told you so. And everyone is now.

[B]

She hasn't said. She still hasn't said what she's talking about.

[A]

I am getting into it. It has brought us together. Like Covid. Someone text me that. It's brought us. It's brought the world together.

[B]

Like, it's like the Coldplay couple. That really brought us together as well.

[A]

Brooklyn Beckham, Mike Drop. Do we need to explain the backstory?

[B]

I think we do.

[A]

Okay, a quick. A quick synopsis of the backstory. The Beckhams. There has been talk of a Fallout. A rift between the Beckhams. Brooklyn Beckham hasn't seen with his parents. He didn't go to his dad's 50th. He didn't go to his mom's show. He didn't go to his dad's. Dad's nighthood. Was he knighted? He didn't go to his dad's knighthood. And there was talk for rift. Obviously nothing was said. Then his brother came out and said that they people, the press said that Victoria and David had unfollowed Brooklyn. But what actually came out is brother Cruz said that actually he blocked his mom and his dad. Then it came out.

[B]

I have to intervene and say there was stories around when he married. So.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So it started from that far back.

[B]

Nicola married a woman called Nicola. Sorry. Brooklyn married a woman called Nicola Peltz.

[A]

We're just so excited.

[B]

Who is Nicola Peltz? Is the daughter of the Wendy Burger man.

[A]

Is that who he is?

[B]

He owns Wendy's from a billion.

[A]

Wendy's is good in fairness.

[B]

Do you know how much? So Brooklyn Beckham has married into money. And I think the Beckhams were not expecting the prenup to go the other way. Do you know what I mean? I think they were thought that whoever Brooklyn married that they were going to be the royalty and they're not. And the Beckhams are an amazing brand. But the Wendy burgers, they're like old money. Do you know what I mean?

[A]

It was Wendy's burgers.

[C]

So like Wendy's.

[B]

Yeah, Wendy's delicious in the states.

[A]

Have you ever had a hash brown in there?

[B]

Do you know how much Daddy, daddy Wendy's worth? So daddy Wendy, Wendy.

[A]

Sorry. I call my friends all call vaginas Wendy's. It's just so weird that you're saying it all the time. Yeah, we say Wendy.

[B]

It's kind of cute. So daddy Wendy is. Is 83. Okay? So Brooklyn's going to be coming into a lot of money very soon. Okay. I'm not wishing.

[A]

Is he looking well?

[B]

He looks good for it. He looks kind of. He looks kind of old school Italian tanned man. And his. And her. Nicola's mother is in her 70s. Their house alone is worth £76 million. Like even I don't know what the Beckhams are worth, but like the Backhams are scum.

[A]

I remember thinking he had a lot of kids though. And it concerned me for the. For the sharing of the wealth. There was a lot of kids. I think he has. Can you see how many kids he has? I mean, she's still going to get a fair wedge, but I was just.

[B]

Thinking that would be annoying.

[A]

She's.

[B]

She the only one?

[A]

She couldn't be the only one. I don't think so. I thought he had a lot of kids. Maybe I'm wrong, but I remember feeling.

[B]

Like, oh, still enough to go around.

[A]

Yeah. But I know it's. I'd still rather the bill.

[B]

You'd be assassinating them all.

[A]

Yeah, I'll be like that. What's that? How to kill your family. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, no. She's got siblings.

[A]

Yeah. See? No.

[C]

And Nicola Pelt. Brad Pelts. Will Pelt. I think there's three of them.

[A]

I thought there was more. That's. Yeah.

[B]

But Brooklyn. Do you know Brooklyn was only born in 1999. He's 26 years of age. He is very, very young. She is 30.

[A]

I got married when I was 26 the first time. Did you Very.

[B]

God, you looked. He looked older. I meant you felt older at the time.

[A]

Oh, no.

[C]

She's got seven siblings.

[A]

Oh, you see, There goes the cash divided by seven. How much money does he have?

[B]

She's a bit. He's a billionaire.

[A]

But how many bills?

[B]

I don't know if it's one bill.

[A]

The seven.

[B]

I'm not great with numbers.

[C]

Oh, it's not a lot of bills.

[A]

One bill.

[C]

1.6 bills.

[A]

Oh, what is. Jeez, Brooklyn.

[B]

You didn't think this one through at all.

[A]

Seven kids as well. And he's gonna have to look after the wife.

[B]

Times are tight.

[C]

Basically.

[B]

Nothing cost a living crisis. Nicola.

[A]

Jesus Christ. They're gonna have to go on the doll.

[B]

She'll be doing the rail and sail around the place.

[A]

No planes for her.

[B]

He's very young. He's married this absolutely beautiful woman.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And there was rumors of a fallout around. There was rumors of a fallout around the wedding. There was Nicola, and Nicola wasn't at the. Or. Sorry. The Beckham parents weren't at the top table. Neither were Nicola's parents, though.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Their grannies at the top table.

[A]

Which I think is a nice touch because you know what? The grannies have no partners. And I was at a wedding where the granny who had lost her husband was sitting on her own and, like, no one was really talking to her. And I was like, oh, well, I mean, two people either side, but you know when the conversation turns. And I just kept. And like I was the other side of the table. So I was trying, like, you just kind of feel bad. So I didn't think there's anything Wrong with that.

[B]

No. And.

[A]

But then Brooklyn. Yes.

[B]

So then I'm just going to explain for the. For the background. Then there was. There was talk of Victoria not making Nicholas dress.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There was accusations, both sides that she. Nicola, didn't want to wear the dress or there was suggestions that Posh didn't want to make the dress. There was rumors about a dress.

[A]

Yeah. Right.

[B]

And it. But like someone's leaking these stories to the press. That was in the New York. The New Yorker.

[A]

Yeah, but. But there was also, let's not forget the story that came out about their wedding planners. So supposedly they had fired a couple of wedding planners as well. And they were. They were painted as being quite difficult to work with.

[B]

The Peltzes.

[A]

The Peltzes, big time. And Nicola in particular painted quite difficult.

[B]

To work with pre Wedding planners. Folks, that's more than you've had. And you've had two weddings.

[A]

Yeah, I know. I know.

[B]

Three. And they're all suing each other now. I think the Peltzes are suing the wedding planners or the wedding planners. There's. So they're all serious. It's not a. She said.

[A]

I'm not.

[B]

I. I hate to say it. I hate to say it. I hate when women are accused of being difficult because I feel like if a woman asks you to turn right instead of left, if she's successful, they call her a monster.

[A]

There's been. There has been some rumors about her. Her hair stylist came out and said. Said she is not a nice. She's not a good vibe.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And he was saying spooky vibes. Which I'm not sure that means bad vibes. Bad vibes and spooky vibes. But he was saying that she's not nice. But then. Okay, here's the thing about which bit have we got to. God, this has been so exciting.

[B]

So anyway, all the rumors, blah, blah, blah. Everyone's unfollowing each other. No one knows what's going on.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then. Sorry. Then Brooklyn basically sent his parents a legal letter to say that they needed to stop talking about him online. And it was supposedly Victoria liked a chicken video that Brooklyn had put up and that was the final straw for him. And he dare she. Yeah. He.

[B]

What a monster.

[A]

What a horrible mother. Yeah. And then he didn't want her to post or anything about it.

[B]

Cut to Brooklyn Beckham, who's never worked a day in his life. Living off the. Lifting off. Living off the backham dollar. I don't think has he a GCSE to his name. Has he. Has he done his GCSes?

[A]

Well, anyway, so. So all this kind of came to a head but like everything had stopped after. After he did the blocking and all that kind of stuff which felt like really immature behaviors to your parents. Then he drops an absolute bombshell and releases this like seven page statement where he absolutely tears into his parents.

[B]

A verbal grenade. I would call.

[A]

Let me just get the. The proper points up about it. Where's my drive now? What I will say before we even start. And I always say this about people having fights. There's one story, there's their story and then there's the truth.

[B]

I'm team Posh.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

I'm sorry. Her perfume's sensational. I don't care if she gave her son a lap dance at his wedding. I'm not. I'm not turning on her.

[A]

He absolutely doesn't want to reconcile with his family. He said the family's relationships are inauthentic and performative. His parents have been trying to. Yeah, yeah. Hello. His parents have been trying to ruin his relationship with Nicola. Victoria canceled her plans to make Nicola's wedding dress, leaving her scrambling at the last minute for a dress. The parents tried to bribe him into signing away the rights to his name. Victoria called Brooklyn evil because the way Brooklyn laid out the wedding seating. We spoke about that. About the grandparents. I think that's a load of shit.

[B]

What I will say is like, you're not like. Victoria Beckham did not get to where she is by being a shrinking violet. You have a show pony mother in a show business family. And obviously the Wendy wedding was an opportunity. She obviously felt slighted at the Wendy wedding. She's obviously struggling with the fact that her son is marrying into so much money. I'd say she's a bit insecure about it.

[A]

I think it's just mothers in general when their son is getting married.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

I feel like, like, so what he.

[B]

Said, I can't wait to see you. Slut. Slut dropping at Theodore's wedding.

[A]

I've already. The dance. A slut drop. I've been at string fellas. Learning my bits. I'm going to be lap dancing at that.

[B]

Victoria was just humiliated.

[A]

That's what he said though. Victoria danced inappropriately on me in front of anyone. It's. Sorry. He's making it sound incestuous.

[B]

So basically Mark Anthony, whose name I have not heard in a very long time. I was so confused. I was like, mark Anthony's back. Wow. He was doing the singing. I thought he Was doing a speech. I was very confused. And then in the wedding, apparently he said Brooklyn said it was supposed to be the time where he was going to dance with Nicola Peltz. And then he went up and his mother was there, and Mark Antony called her the most beautiful woman in the room. And then he said, she danced on me inappropriately. Which does suggest there was a lap dance or some sort of twerking in house.

[A]

He said she stole the first dance. The thing of it is, there's loads of different recollections of this because it was in Vogue magazine and the person writing Vogue magazine, there was a first dance. And then 11 o' clock is when Mark Anthony came on and then invited Victoria onto the stage. So does she dress sexy? She's a Spice Girl. Of course you dance. Sorry, Dance sexily. Like, I don't think that she's gonna be, like, gyrating on her son.

[B]

Like, that's their thing. They're always dancing, the Brooklyns. What the fuck is wrong?

[A]

The Beckhams, the back.

[B]

They're always dancing, the Beckhams. I've seen videos of her dancing with Nicola Peltz. They're hugging each other and stuff.

[A]

Listen, I don't feel like any of it makes sense, but let's go back to the.

[B]

Basically accused your mother of coming on to you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, what are you doing?

[A]

Just. But like, even the wedding dress drama. It took Valentino, by the way. Talk about taking. Yeah, but no one knows Valentino's dead because Brooklyn released this bombshell on the day of his death. I'd be absolute. Well, I mean, he's not gonna know because he's dead human. Yeah. But I'd be raging that you stole my dead day.

[B]

Yeah, I know.

[A]

Especially that they were so close.

[B]

It's a really nice break from World War three, though, isn't it?

[A]

Trump is thrilled. He's like, this is my way in. No one would even notice me watching.

[B]

Like, the way it's infiltrated. Like, Candace Owens is talking about it. You know her.

[A]

I know.

[B]

She's like this right wing political commentator. She's the one who keeps accusing Bridget McCrone of being a man. She's. I mean, she's kind of insane, but even she. She's talking about that.

[A]

She's talking about it.

[B]

I want. There's a. There's a Guardian podcast called Today in Focus that I listen to. I listen to it sometimes, just check in with what's going on in the world. They did an episode about Brooklyn Beckham. It's usually about Like Iran or whatever. Do you know what I mean?

[A]

Oh my. It's, it's, it's just I did it on Lorraine today. That was our chat.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I, I, so there's so many conflicting stories because the thing I told you about DJ Fat Tony. DJ Fat Tony was a DJ at the wedding and he is obviously you'll probably know him if you live over here. And his husband commented, I was at the wedding and what Brooklyn is saying is true. And then he quickly deleted it. But it went everywhere.

[B]

So I mean, firstly, ungrateful wedding guest.

[A]

And secondly, you will not be invited to any. Well, you can go to the other. I listen, I'm just Team Beckham TJ Fat. Not just because I want to be part of their family. It's I just if my, if my.

[B]

Partner, husband, I'm not sure if they're married, got stuck their nose in, in the Beckham controversy online when they were at the wedding, I wouldn't be too happy. I'd say DJ Fat Tony's.

[A]

I mean, I just find.

[B]

Is everyone drunk online? Is that what's happening? Is Beckham. When I saw Brooklyn's post, I think.

[A]

Everyone just got so excited when they saw it because it was just like, oh my God, was he drunk?

[B]

Did he wake up and not remember? Did he wake up and think with all the traction he's like, oh, that cat video is doing really well. And then real he doing this kind.

[A]

Of, I don't think he realized it would like catch on as quickly as it did. But any, everyone is looking for any kind of truth to it now. The only people who have this video are Brooklyn and Nicola. So if you really. But I, I, I think Brooklyn is going to, it's like when you just drop a bomb in a room and you like it. I think he's going to do that. I don't think the Beckhams are going to come back and say anything because I think, I think if they put out any statement it will be something like the door is always open.

[C]

Brooklyn.

[B]

So David has said something about it.

[A]

It wasn't really about that. It was a very general question in an interview.

[B]

So I think it was, it's kind of being read as him saying he's like, kids online, basically kids make mistakes and you have to let them make their mistakes.

[A]

Yeah, but I mean I just, it's like, it's, it's just, it's like Prince Harry, whatever is going on in your life with your family, you do not need to completely annihilate him. Like he did.

[B]

Imagine your little sister in law, Harper.

[A]

Well, supposedly he doesn't speak to any of them. He speaks to his grandparents. It's such a shame because like, like, that's your parents, that's your family. You should, like, you only get one family and yes, you're married to her. And obviously, like, he did say that. Like he had such bad anxiety growing up. Overwhelming. And since he stepped away from the Beckhams, the anxiety is gone. If you have anxiety, it doesn't go away. Anxiety is something that gets managed. So you can't blame all of your life's anxiety on being part of Bran Beckham. When you enjoyed being part of Brian Beckham for such a long time.

[B]

It was like I was forced to turn up to family events and smile. Yeah, I'm doing that with no inheritance. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I'm doing that for free. Brooklyn, at least you're going to good.

[A]

Places, for fuck's sake. I know.

[B]

I'm going to christening. There's not a penny to be had in the family.

[A]

I have to go sit in a church for an hour and a half at their poxy wedding.

[B]

I mean, I do understand that If I married Mr. Nando, it probably would give me a deluded sense of importance and confidence. Or one of the five guys. Imagine I married one of the five guys. FYI, I have shows to sell. I have Brighton, Liverpool, Manchester and Leeds. Also have Australian dates. Perth, Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane.

[A]

Also the 3Arena on the 12th of December 2020. This year.

[B]

This year. This year we'll be there.

[A]

I will be performing. Can I also say that this was very much thought through. And I'd say that the Beckhams knew that this was coming. There's no way they didn't know this was coming. Yeah, 100. They would know. And with the trademark thing, by the way, remember he said that they tried to get me to remove my name from the trademark. The thing behind that, everyone's deep diving into it. David Beckham trademarked his name in 2000. Victoria Beckham, 2002. They trademarked their children's names in 2017. Only to protect them. And then it was around, they sold half of their ventures. It's DV ventures or something. It's called for 200 million. And to protect their children from them using their name. Because it's not just owned by them now. That's why they did it. Not because they didn't want Brooklyn using the name.

[B]

He's not really like Brooklyn. You really haven't thought this through. This is a massive mistake.

[A]

And like, how do you come. Like, you can kind of see Prince.

[B]

Harry sniffing around, isn't he?

[A]

He's crawling around.

[B]

Sniffing around, isn't he? Fancy seeing you here.

[A]

How'd you go? How'd you just hang out with you? Like, fair enough. The parents will probably be able to like David and Victoria probably be able to forgive him, but if I was his brother or sister, I'd be like, you are.

[B]

He's young. He is young.

[A]

You can't blame it on his age. And he will be getting influenced.

[B]

He's young and moneyed and he's spoiled, really, to be honest. And like, they, in fairness, they've supported all his weird crafts, like his sandwiches and his photography and to rinse your. Like, I imagine I did that to pass.

[A]

She would drag you by the ears into the house, drag you by the.

[B]

Ears over to the Wendy house. In middle minutes she'd have me out, she'd spank me in the garden. I feel very sorry for everyone involved.

[A]

I know, but I actually, I do. You know what? Someone commented on my Instagram post that I did and they were like, oh, God, it's just like, Megan, those women turning these men again. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no. These are grown up men and they're making their own decisions. You cannot just blame the family. But I say, I'd say she did want him to stick up for her.

[B]

Was she? So apparently she went out with one of the hadith, the boy, and when she was going out with him, he didn't speak to his family either.

[A]

Stop.

[B]

So I don't know what she's doing and I do think she. I think he was, I think he's quite, he's probably quite suggestible. I mean, she's absolutely stunning. She's insanely wealthy. Like, he's done very well and he's a good, he's a catch too. He has lost track of himself. He has lost the run of himself completely. And his complaints are not family cutting off worthy complaints. This is that cut culture I'm telling you about. Everyone's cutting off their families.

[A]

It's just babyish. Like, hop on, just dress. This is literally the like, like, just get an absolute grip and just get a hold of yourself. It just stinks. It stinks of just spoiled brat.

[B]

That's one of those things you're like, oh, I'm so glad. Like, my notes section is full of shit I never posted. And every morning I wake up grateful.

[A]

Do you know what I mean? You feel so much better.

[B]

Like, oh, my God, thank God I didn't post that. What was I thinking? Or thank God I didn't send that text. Do you know what I mean? Now I don't mind. I do. Like, sometimes I will have a glass of wine and send a couple of awkward emails that I've been putting off, but. So I don't know how much wine he had to make himself do that. Has his followings gone up?

[A]

A goblet. A goblet of wine, yeah. Have they gone up?

[B]

He's got party vibes.

[A]

15 million.

[B]

What?

[A]

And I mean, what an opportunity waste. I saw Josh Whitakem posting about it, and he was like, Brooklyn must be thinking, jesus, this. I really should have main paged this.

[B]

I saw someone. What was saying about Posh dancing? They're like, well, at least she didn't sing. Which I thought was unfair because I am Team Posh.

[A]

I sent that one to you today where someone was like, david was really upset when I read Brooklyn's statement to him because.

[B]

That'S funny.

[A]

There is some very good Internet memes, but I don't. I love Victoria Beckham, and she just had that. I feel sorry for them. Like. Like, can you imagine how sad they are as parents, sitting at home being like, I can't believe he did that to us.

[B]

I know you think you're, you know, you. He was their firstborn. You have a kid, you. You pay for everything. You raise them right. They have a lovely life. And then they cut you off publicly. Like, it's kind of worst case scenario, really.

[A]

I feel like sometimes I think. And I. I'm a strong advocate for therapy. I think sometimes maybe, like, you can speak to a therapist for so long that they can kind of turn you against people sometimes. And they can make you think of things that, like, you're going through a situation so much that they're kind of planting things in your head. I just don't know. I don't know if it's.

[B]

I think this is this. Do you know what? This. This reeks of him leaning a bit too heavy on Chachi bt. Chachi BT is very agreeable. Like, I've asked her questions that it should not agree to, and it's. It's like, yeah, sure, you should totally do that.

[A]

Has Ron McNally ever looked better? No. Thank you.

[B]

Yeah, that's the kind of. It's kind of people pleasing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I feel like a real therapist would never suggest someone cuts off their family.

[A]

Like, it's just. But he'll regret that. There's no way he won't regret that because, like, when he has kids and stuff like that and. And not being able, like, I. I keep going back to Christmas because our Christmas just looks so perfect in that house of theirs. And I'm, like, having their little kid running around with, like, his nice family and all that.

[B]

He's talking about this performative thing right now. Brooklyn. I don't know if you. I don't know if you know this, but every family is performing at times. Do you know what I mean? Like, there are. You know, my family could have been killing each other in Lanzarote, but our family felt it looked stunning.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

But we. Everyone puts their best foot forward. But when you told me the performative, so I don't. I'm gonna say it. Word on the street is their. Their marriages, you know, a little open. Open, allegedly. But I think that's what he's wrong with this performative thing. It's like loads of marriages are open, and they just get on with things because they're her brands.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what?

[A]

I genuinely think they really love each other. Like, you see they're in such a great time together. I just. Let's, like. Well, let's dance it at the end. Riding. Watch this face. We might have to do a little update during the week. We're recording this on a Tuesday or Wednesday. God knows what's going to happen by Friday morning.

[B]

Did he take. Can it. Can I just ask for clarity? Joan, you're our fact checker here. Has he delete. Did he delete the stories that he left to sit there for 24 hours?

[A]

Yeah, 24 hours.

[B]

We left them up.

[A]

I'd be surprised if he doesn't hit up the main grid. That would do. Honestly, it would do so well.

[B]

Do so well. He's. That's pixels that Don. He left over for the whole 24 hours.

[A]

That's. That.

[B]

That news traveled incredibly fast.

[A]

You did post a. A little tribute to Emma Bunt saying Happy birthday, so it looks like they're trying to carry on as normal.

[B]

Well, you would, wouldn't you?

[A]

Yeah. And Cruz posted being in the studio.

[C]

So never explain, never complain.

[B]

That's. Yeah, that's okay. Moscow's by.

[A]

Oh, I just feel like a weight's been lifted off my shoulders there. I just couldn't wait to come in and talk to you because obviously Joanne and I can't talk about things until we come in here.

[B]

I. I, of course, reshared something from Emma Bunton's Account. I was like, look at the girls rallying for Victoria. And then everyone was like, joanne, that's not her real account.

[A]

Account.

[B]

It's a fan account.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I was like, unless Joe's there to tell me it's not true, I really have no idea what's going on. Yeah. And Rebecca Lou's gotten involved and she's like.

[A]

She's like that troll under the bridge. She just keeps coming back out with the videos. She's like, me. It's like, stop.

[B]

It's like, rebecca, obviously you don't like Victoria. Obviously you think she's a. You wrote her husband.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She's already going to be taking you for bubbles and a massage.

[A]

But it's like every time something like this happens, she's like, she comes out just to go, that's so true.

[B]

She's like, tell yourself. It's like, I don't think. I don't imagine you're going to be getting the best sides of the Beckhams when you sold a story that you wrote, David.

[A]

And I mean, there's nobody that is more happy that Brooklyn Beckham has released his statement than other than Stephen Bartlett, because the heat has been well and truly taken off him. But we are going to touch base on that next week.

[B]

Yeah, we're going to touch base on him for sure.

[A]

Yeah. Joanne, should society intervene? For fuck's sake.

[C]

What?

[B]

The Handmaid's Tale is the.

[A]

This.

[B]

That's it for this week. Thanks for listening.

[A]

And we are on a break. We only found out today.

[B]

We have a. We. We've.

[C]

We have a bonus next Wednesday.

[A]

We have a bonus next Wednesday. But we're just pre warning it's a two week break and then we'll be back again.

[B]

And the bonus will be basically about Stephen Barlett.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And Chris Williamson, Bar F.

[A]

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