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John
This is a Global Player original podcast.
Vogue
Hello, and welcome to the ghosted Christmas party. Cheers, everybody.
John
Cheers in.
Vogue
Featuring Joanne, whose mic is, again, muted.
Joanne
My mic's very much swinging to the left. It's very Conor McGregor penis Cody today. Have you noticed that I can't get it back? I can't get it pointing straight. It keeps slipping off to the left.
John
At the moment, it's. It's too flat. It needs to be pointing more up.
Vogue
Joanne, you asked for a flaccid.
Joanne
I'm not. I'm not wearing any line.
John
It needs to be further upwards than the mull of Kantyre.
Joanne
This is the most action I've had. Joe, I just want you to know, if you.
John
If you don't.
Joanne
If you don't call me after this, I'll be very disappointed.
Vogue
Okay, let's. Can we say cheers now? Rudely interrupted my speech.
Joanne
Oh, sorry, V. I have a whole speech. I just want to say Vogue's drinking out of a champagne flute, I'm drinking gin out of a broken cup, and Joe's drinking a pint of ale. I think we've all made the right brand choices for ourselves.
Vogue
I would like to say well done, everybody. We have made it to the end of the year. This is always the toughest part, it seems, because everyone is completely out of steam. Yet for some reason, this is the part of the year that we've decided to ram absolutely everything in. I'd like to say thank you to all the listeners, your sound, as always, we really appreciate you. We've really enjoyed recording pods. And Joanne and Joe, I feel extremely lucky that I get to work with you two every week because last night I was in a bit of a shitter when we were doing the bonus and I got off the phone, I text you on. I should have texted you, Joe. Sorry. Saying it now. And I said, you know what?
John
I was in the ether.
Joanne
Text the Oregon Grinder, not the monkey. Go on.
Vogue
I said I was in a powder and so stressed and feeling anxious. Got on into the pod and I felt so good after it. And I would just like to say I appreciate all of you for allowing us to be able to do this. And I appreciate you too, for allowing me to be able to do it. So cheers and happy Christmas and New Year's and to a great 2026 for all.
John
Here, here.
Joanne
She called me a human beta blocker. I'm basically like her little therapy dog.
Vogue
Yeah, I'm gonna start bringing her around. I don't pay for her on flights. I don't pay for her.
Joanne
No.
Vogue
Someone. Joanne Louisa just said, today I'm doing some content for ferry. And I was. I sent over my content and Lisa was like, do we need to get Johan's anxious preoccupied bag manager?
Joanne
Is it in the shoe? Is it in the ad?
Vogue
Yeah, I just use it for everything.
Joanne
G Far told me this. I. I'll double check. He doesn't mind me saying it on this podcast. I don't know if he wants to use it somewhere else, but he wanted to bring his cat boots on a plane as a therapy and he was trying to get it across the line as a therapy animal. And they're like, that's not a therapy animal. And he said, what constitutes a therapy animal? And the one behind the rest said, a little jacket.
Vogue
Oh.
Joanne
So if you put me in a little jacket folk, you can bring me on anything you want for free. Allegedly.
Vogue
And I have a little jacket.
Joanne
Little jacket.
Vogue
Nothing.
Joanne
You have as little. But.
Vogue
Well, I'm talking about autos. They put you on autos jackets. He's got a fantastic chile that would look great with your eyes.
Joanne
Cut it open and strap it onto my back. A little jacket. That's all you need to bring. Bring an animal on an airplane. Tiny little jacket.
John
She's my therapy comedian.
Joanne
Yeah. It's my therapy family.
Vogue
Yeah. But I can't get Bertie back to Ireland. That's a great way of getting it back to Ireland.
Joanne
Just for the listeners who can't. They can't see. But if we're going on the YouTube, I have, as I do every Christmas, bang on. No more than Michael Buble and Mariah Carey are going to land into your speaker. I have my under eye dermatitis. Actually all over the eye dermatitis this time. I don't know what it is. Is it in the air? Is it the snow?
Vogue
Is it.
Joanne
It's probably the booze, let's face it.
Vogue
Yes. I was gonna say, is it the. Are we gonna go there? Is it the booze?
Joanne
Yeah, I guess. A Christmas and it's nice.
Vogue
It's a change in temperature.
Joanne
Even my body has limits. It's actually reassuring, to be honest. So, yeah, I've had some sort of reaction again.
Vogue
Your body goes all. Your body trucks along all year long, never complains. It's only at Christmas it says it's time to give this some dry eye.
Joanne
That's actually so true. It never said my body just kind of. It cockroaches its way forward and then every last week in December, it's like I hear off, will you.
Vogue
Yeah, enough.
Joanne
Don't so I'd like to make a speech. Okay.
Vogue
I'd love to hear it.
Joanne
Yeah. I would just like to say from the bottom of my heart, I'll be in the 3Arena December 12, 2026. Tickets are on sale. I'm also about extra dates in Bristol, Liverville, Manchester and Leeds. Thank you. Emotional. Thank you all.
John
That was incredible.
Joanne
Happy Christmas. Yeah, so nice to. God bless everyone.
Vogue
I'm glad that I put in all these hours of work with you. You stupid bastard. Can I edit my.
Joanne
Here's Tim Vogue.
Vogue
Who will be at the 3Arena on December 12, 2026. And I'm very excited.
Joanne
Right after Bobby plug in my three arena and Kevin Bridges comes in, adds three a week after mine and sells two out in three days. Three arena, two or three arenas gone in two days.
Vogue
Oh, my God. I have to go see Kevin. Kevin, like, we're friends. I would like to go and see him in the Apollo. So that is down to you to organize. And I would like to go.
Joanne
Is he doing the Apollo? I wouldn't have thought he was doing the Apollo.
Vogue
He's doing the Apollo. I'd like to go and see him. I don't want to meet him. It's too embarrassing because. Okay, a big fan. But I would like to go.
Joanne
Sure, I can organize.
Vogue
I'll wait outside while you go backstage.
Joanne
Yeah, I'll be like, I'll take this one, bug. His wife is probably here. Get your shit together.
Vogue
There's certain things I just. I don't like. I'm not like Spencer. I don't like famous people. And not because I don't personally like them. I just tend to get shy. And I'm not a shy person, but around certain people, I get shy and I don't. I think it would have Kevin Bridges and I'm like, oh, like, no, you've got four.
Joanne
I've seen her go fall before, Joe. It's not a good look. The last couple hang out of her, the better.
John
Oh, God. Oh, God. She's good for.
Joanne
She's like a giraffe. I can see her coming up her throat, like, oh, no, she's masticating. She's mad.
John
She's gonna go, Christ, Christ, We've gotta go.
Joanne
Abort, abort.
Vogue
I'm filling up. I didn't mean to do this. Anyway, I'm going to a Christmas party after this. No, not yours. I'm going to a Christmas party with hello, Sunshine. I'm only going for an hour because then I have to record a pod with Amber. But still, it's the only Christmas party that I'm going to. I'm very excited about it. But now I've gotten another one in on the same day. This is very handy.
Joanne
Well, I have reached my fill. I. I did that thing where I blew my low. Too soon. Etc. It's the same story every year. Same story. And I've now spent the morning canceling all remaining Christmas plants.
Vogue
Well, what were the Christmas plans that you've canceled? You won't cancel them. You'll do them again. I know, I know. I can. I can read you like a book, John McNally. I know what you're gonna do. You're canceling them until. What day is it? Until Friday.
Joanne
There's a pressure of like, oh, my God. If we don't see a Christmas, it's not a real friendship. We must meet for a drink.
Vogue
No, no, we must.
Joanne
We simply must. I meet her at 9am I meet her at 12pm I meet him at 3:15. I made her. There's just no sense to it. So I've just. I've parked it all. I'm just gonna lie in the bath and eat bone broth for the next couple of days and heal.
Vogue
When are you going back to Ireland?
Joanne
I'm not. Not going back to. Jan. Off to Spain with the La Famila.
Vogue
Oh, yeah. When are you going with the La Familia?
John
That's good.
Joanne
Thank you. Thank you. Merc, por favor. Vodka incinerated before. See, we're off to Spain. I can't wait. Can I just say I've had some good news this week.
Vogue
Okay.
Joanne
And it's always good to celebrate the good because there's so much bad.
Vogue
You sold out your last Apollo?
Joanne
Nope.
Vogue
Okay.
Joanne
February 15th, 3pm and 8pm Tickets still available. Dramacline.com International God bless everyone. They're starting to look for the missing Malaysian Airlines flight again. The family have even moved on at this point.
Vogue
Well, the family aren't going to get much back at this stage, let's be honest. They're not looking for bodies. They're looking for plane parts.
Joanne
Well, no, I think they are looking for. Well, they're getting 300 grand per body. No, I'm not saying that's. I'm not saying that's. I wouldn't be like, oh, Grant, what was I complaining about? So they're getting 300 grand above the families.
Vogue
Oh, sorry, I thought you meant the people going to look for the plane. We're going to get 300 grand for each body found.
Joanne
If they hadn't because they were supposed to look for the march and the weather meant they couldn't because it was too bad. If they hadn't started again, I was literally going to hijack a Ryanair flight myself and fly into the Liffey to raise awareness.
Vogue
So I'm thrilled you are obsessed with this now, which is, it's. It's an unusual level of obsessiveness, even from you, because I, I liked. I do like to try and keep positive about things, but they have more of a chance of finding Santa Claus than they do of finding the missing Malaysian Airlines flight. And if they do, then there's going to be the conspiracy theories of like, okay, how did you find that? You obviously planted the black box somewhere. I think what happened was the pilot did it and that's what happened. And fume. The plane's gone, smashed into smithereens, lost forever.
John
Yeah, okay, they can, they can suspect investigation then. Yeah, I think she's probably cracked.
Joanne
Did you ring them vote? Do they know that, that you think this? Because I don't think.
Vogue
You know what, John? I am actually going to get on to them, but, like, it just. I find it's not really my business. And if they want to go and spend all that money and go look for the plan and I didn't want to step on your toes either.
Joanne
Well, I'm in direct contact with the search company, so I will tell them what you think.
Vogue
Tell them not to bother. Tell them not to bother.
Joanne
Well, first I was like, vogue wants to know, have you prayed to St. Anthony? Because that's usually a big fixer for her. Do you know how long. Can we just. Can we take a second? Do you know when the plane went missing, I couldn't believe this.
Vogue
10, 10 years ago.
Joanne
Yeah, it was 10, 20, 14. Well, it's actually, that's not 12.
Vogue
10 years ago.
Joanne
I could get over feels like it was Yesterday. Also, there's 56 million they're getting paid if the, if they find it. I said, folk, we'll get ourselves the metal detector and a dinghy, see what we can find.
Vogue
License. I have a diving license. I'll go deep down. You stay on top of the dinghy and I'll come up every so often. Food and water in goggles and a.
Joanne
Pool noodle just bound. I was like, when I got to Lanzarote, if you see me in the sea, it's because I'm looking for debris. I said to girls, if we all look for a bit of debris over the Christmas season and we build something together, we Could. We could probably chip in on the 56 miles. I'll fake the black box myself, put on a Malaysian accent.
Vogue
I found a better way to make money. I found a much better way to make money. I only found out if it's just. I'm just gonna get my head punched in by Jake Paul. Do you know that he's doing a fight with. Is it Jake Paul or the other one? Which brother is it? Jake Paul. He's getting his head punched in by Anthony Joshua. They're getting £180 million each for one fight. If Anthony Joshua, he just hit me once and then it'd be gone. I'd be done. I would get knocked out for £180 million. Like, sorry, we're in the wrong game. Yeah, you need to start fighting and that's great.
Joanne
And I'll spend your money while you're on life support. Beep, beeping your way to an early grave.
Vogue
Be worth it. It'd be worth it for the. Listen, it's for everyone else. I'm selfless act. I will fight you, Anthony Joshua.
Joanne
I'll spend all your money on scuba gear and a metal detector so I can hit the ocean.
Vogue
Look for debris. You need to get your party license when you're over in 10.
Joanne
Imagine I found. Imagine I found debris for Malaysia Airlines with the party licen.
Vogue
I have a paddy license. I can go 17 meters looking for years. Find it.
Joanne
I'm like, find the whole thing. Yeah, down the Thames. Just to be clear, I'm laughing at more my obsession with it rather than. I mean, it's obviously still. This is still an active investigation for these families. So I don't understand, like, I'm completely insensitive. But like I say, girls can an eye out for the debris. If you're swimming down the forty foot on Christmas Day, have a look for the debris.
John
Your light is in front of your camera. So I just need the light to go behind the laptop.
Vogue
Okay, well, I'll do my Christmas speech after then, shall I? It's like working with morons. Come here to me. I've got some big news. We love a good haul, right? And we haven't done this in ages, but we used to it with the Met gala and everything like that. The Golden Globes gift bags have been revealed.
John
Oh, we like these.
Vogue
Wait until it's just getting more and more and more. I'm telling you, Joanne, we are in the wrong game. We need to start fighting or we need to do something to be invited.
Joanne
To the Golden Vogue. Bit of news from My end. And I'm not going to cut across you. The Golden Globes have just put podcasts in as a category first ever.
John
Yeah, here we go then.
Joanne
So I think we will be attending.
Vogue
Well, where's my gift bag?
Joanne
We need to go first. Gotta get the knob.
Vogue
It's only for winners and presenters. I could present. No, I don't.
Joanne
Oh, you could present. You could present.
Vogue
I couldn't take that level of abuse against front of people. I would rather not. And not that I'd be invited to. Okay, they are valued at just under $1 million.
John
Stop it.
Joanne
And Jesus.
Vogue
And Jesus is right.
Joanne
God, I could sell that.
Vogue
Don't forget St. Mary and Joseph. Christ alive.
Joanne
Okay, so finding the major lines is only 57 Oscar gift packs.
Vogue
That's all. So that's what I'm saying.
Joanne
Don't bother the work they're doing down there.
Vogue
Beachfront villa trip, three night stay in Turks and Caicos valued at over 500 000. I don't believe that. Come on.
Joanne
Come on.
Vogue
Now that sounds like a lot has been on and on. A wine tasting and dinner in Bordeaux. A lavish culinary experience worth around $272,000.
John
No it isn't. No, that's not.
Vogue
See this, this is what they're saying.
Joanne
This is. Do you know what this is? This is the comp. So they've gone out to these companies, all these companies, it's all experiential. Everything's moving away from like things and it's all moving to experiences. And these brands are like we'd love to have Brad Pitt in our wine area. So yeah, sure. Give them a thing and tell them it's worth 200 grand.
Vogue
High end fitness and wellness gear like bespoke workouts, premium fitness equipment, non surgical STEM cell facelift, $40,000 five day luxury char yacht charter. An expensive trip around Indonesia's Coral Triangle and come on, that's a yacht. That's a great.
Joanne
Keep an eye for the. Keeping out the debris if they're gone.
Vogue
Anytime I post in health now, John will just be asked me if I've looked out for the day. I haven't. Okay, there's your pre. Answer. Answer. I haven't looked for the debris.
Joanne
Emma Stone, if you're listening, if you get that debris focus.
Vogue
Go on, go on the art. Look for the debris. Well, so that's interesting. If there's. If they're. They've got podcasts. Can we imagine? We got to go there.
Joanne
Yeah, yeah, I know. It'd be pretty cool, wouldn't it? Now I think. I think it's more like call her daddy level. But, you know, who knows? Who knows? We're on the way up. Are we, Joe?
Vogue
What are the. What are the numbers now, Joe? Are we. Are we.
John
We need to branch into the informative space, the news space, the documentary space. If you. If you can find Malaysian Airlines and we can do a documentary on this podcast about it, I'm pretty. Pretty sure we'll be there.
Joanne
Well, who replaced Arine was nominated for an Ambi?
John
Isn't it.
Vogue
Isn't it start.
Joanne
Yeah, yeah.
Vogue
A little bit of a start. Yeah, yeah.
Joanne
So. And that was. That was investigative. Investigative.
Vogue
We both had a little bit of trouble saying that word.
John
Crying helps as well. If one of you could cry. That's always good. Crying is okay.
Vogue
I cried about Winston. Was that not enough about Winston? Actually, that might be our way in. That might be the one I'll send. I'm bringing Winston home to Ireland.
Joanne
I'm too medicated to cry Vogue. That's gonna have to be up to you, I'm afraid.
Vogue
I can cry a lot of stress at the moment, so I. I could cry. I think if you call me, call me. From January 12 onwards, I will be readily available to cry.
Joanne
I was looking at, like. Because it's always interesting to see, like, future predictions. Predictions in 2025. That didn't come through, by the way. None of them did. It was all about, like, the death that, you know, I did pregnant. What? I mean, these are pop culture predictions. Name.
Vogue
Hang on. The aliens never came. I was genuinely so concerned by that. They were meant to come in November. Remember that big ship thing that everyone said was coming? And then I was like, oh, my God, maybe I shouldn't go. And I'm a celebrity because. Because what if I'm there? I don't want to die with people I don't know. And then it never came. I forgot about it.
John
I think they're still.
Vogue
No, it was meant to be in November.
John
It wasn't that one.
Joanne
They're always on the way. They're like the guests that never arrived. They're like me.
Vogue
Supposedly the world ended in 2022 and we're all just in a matrix.
Joanne
Yeah, that makes sense.
John
Possibly.
Joanne
Yeah, I'll try.
Vogue
Happy here, though, I have to say, I'm happy.
Joanne
Speaking of aliens, have you seen there's a.
Vogue
The.
Joanne
The new like show is. Is a Pluribus. Pluribus on Apple.
John
Yeah.
Joanne
Yeah. It's very good. And it's all about an alien takeover. It's very good. I Only started the other day. Brendan Courtney recommended it to me, but apparently it's like the biggest show that Apple have ever had. Like made like numbers created by Vince.
John
Gilligan who made Breaking Bad.
Joanne
Yeah.
Vogue
Oh, that'll be good then.
Joanne
Be good.
Vogue
Okay, go on. So what are the predictions for 2000 and twenties. I love these, by the way, because I actually kind of like, I hang my coat on them sometimes. I'm like, oh, I believe. I just believe everything.
Joanne
You're a hoot.
John
Let's give her somewhere to hang a coat.
Vogue
So what's happening to me next year?
Joanne
Don't forget you need a hook for my tiny coat as well if I'm coming to those planes for free. Absolutely.
Vogue
I've got one. Come on. I got you one of those little doggy bags as well. Well, actually no, I'll just chuck you in my anxious, preoccupied your face world as well.
Joanne
Yeah, let's go through the, the predictions for 2025 that, that were predicted by that Irish lad. The, you know, he comes up every year. The Merlin of. He's known as the Irish Merlin. The 20, 220060 year old book prophecies of Irishman Theo Phyllis Moore, who I'm guessing is dead at this stage. Unless he's literally Demi Moore.
Vogue
But.
Joanne
And he's still writing books. But assassination attempt on Elon Musk didn't happen. Are you sure that.
Vogue
Was that not for this year or is that for last year?
Joanne
Last year death of Joe Biden didn't happen.
Vogue
Is that. Well, that was surprising. I mean, come on. There's this other fella in Congress, what's his name? And he literally stands at the podium and he just stops talking and just stands there and they walk him off. I'm like, I, like, I'm not saying you have to stop work at any age, but like, I mean, he's just, it doesn't work anymore. He doesn't work. He just like gets, he just stops and he just freezes and he just stands there and everyone's like, okay, what's going on here? And he's just any. I would have thought Joe Biden was on the way out as well, but.
Joanne
It'S like my aunt, God love her, she's. She's passed now, God rest her soul, Auntie Joan. But we miss her dearly. But she, when she, she was still driving in her 80s and I mean like she was dry, she was a single woman, so she was like, I obviously have to look after myself and do my own bits and bobs, but like I was in the car with her once she'd just stop in the middle of a roundabout and just kind of like reflect, you know, Unlike where she felt she needed to go or just his life in general. And they're like, beep. And I'm like, joan. And she'd be like, let them wait. I'm like, okay, okay.
John
Mitch McConnell is who you're talking about. It's Mitch McConnell.
Vogue
Joanne, you have to go and watch these videos on Mitch McConnell. You have to do it. It is like berserk.
Joanne
I'll have a look.
Vogue
Okay. These all sounded like they could have happened.
Joanne
So Europe's in danger of collapse now. Look, the geopolitical stuff, I'm not across, okay? I only know what I see in the headline, so I can't. Maybe we are. Who knows? You're not even in Europe. It's not your concern.
John
No, the. The UK is still in Europe. It didn't geographically move. It left the European Union.
Joanne
I thought we were up near France. Now.
Vogue
It'S on the same place. She got rid of the tunnel.
Joanne
Why is my all over the floor? Because we were moving.
John
Off we go. Come on, let's go down to Antigua.
Joanne
Things are rocky, guys. Taylor Swift will have a baby. Didn't happen. Throne goes to Prince William. Didn't happen. A lot of it's just predicting the death of people who are old. So, you know, you're not exactly an ostradamus. Anyway, huge predictions for 2026. The big one is that social media is on the decline. Social media peaked in 2022 and it's now getting less and less and less and less. And they're like, analog is back and they're talking about coffee shops now. Whether this happens or not, who knows? They're going to take out the plugs and there's going to be like journaling areas and stuff. Yeah, yeah. And the rise of board games. Not fascism. Board games.
Vogue
Oh, I do. I was playing Hungry Hip Hungry Hippos over the weekend and I forgot what a fantastic game it was. Hungry Hippos, Great game. And I bought the kids loads of board games. I'm going to get into Twister again. I think that that's a nice thing. You'll just have to. You'll be the one that's driving all that you on because you're never off the tick tock you and Amber.
Joanne
Well, I am now because I'm going analog.
Vogue
Okay, okay.
John
She's just gonna play Keplunk now.
Joanne
Yeah, Just hours and hours ago, Fish.
Vogue
Until I go blind.
Joanne
Gotta stay with the Trends, guys gotta stay with the trends. The sex session will continue. The what sex session? The recession of sex. What you mean less riding than ever before? People are. The morale. Well, I don't know what the guys are up to, but morale in the hetero world is, is low. Even the lads now. And there was a guy talking the other day, what was his name? Scott something. And he was saying liver cirrhosis is less danger than social isolation. So he's saying to the younger generation, go out and drink in pubs. You're not socializing.
Vogue
The younger generation, don't drink as much. Which I do think is a good thing. But I think getting out and about is also a very good thing. I'm scared of the rise of gaming and stuff like that. Like I don't want, like what are the, what are those games? Roblox and stuff. I took tea off that because I think it's, it's a bit weird. Like anyone can talk to them on that. I completely agree with you.
Joanne
I completely agree with you. Now I, I never want to come to your house and see Theodore in a little Britney headset.
Vogue
No, on a gaming chair. On a gaming chair. No, no, no, no, no, no. He won't be allowed to do that.
Joanne
Let's not plan for him to be an incel. Let's see what happens.
Vogue
My God. I'm not joking, right? I know that I sound insane all the time, but I swear to God I saw an orb at the top of Joanne screen.
John
Oh, come on.
Joanne
It's a halo. It's a halo.
Vogue
I swear to God it just flew across the screen. There's another one. Maybe it was dust.
Joanne
Social media's on the way out. There's going to be a return to like traditional values and it's all going to be really cool to be like darning wool in petrol stations and. And I'm gonna lean into it completely. I'm gonna have a self driving penny farthing bike.
Vogue
You're gonna start knitting and stuff like that. I don't think so.
Joanne
Yeah, I am.
Vogue
I think it will drop to a level, but I don't think it's gonna drop that much. I think people really enjoyed it, so. But I do also think that we spend way too much time on our phones. And I can say that because when I had my phone taken away from me for three weeks I was like, wow, there's a lot of time in this day to fill without my phone. But it's nice not to have it.
Joanne
They're saying it'll be a supplement too it's not going to completely replace less sex, less digital. And there's going to be what they're calling a great unfollowing. So people are going to do a huge unfollowing of their followers and getting. So just know and take offense if that's what happens if you're getting booted off people's pages left, right and center.
Vogue
I'm more of a muter. I follow people that I'd rather not follow, but I can't unfollow them because it's rude. So I just do a little muty mute moose.
Joanne
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do think that is. I do. I do think that is more polite.
Vogue
I do. Yeah. Sometimes, yeah. You have to. You're like, oh, I can't. I just can't.
Joanne
Yeah.
Vogue
I say I'm muted on loads of people's page. Jesus.
John
I'm sorry. We're just. We're allowing muty mute mute. That's.
Joanne
That's just Christmas. It's Christmas.
Vogue
Okay, well, I'm a mother. These are the things that I have to say. Muty mute mute is one of them. And also I would like to say because it reminded me of Moly. Mole.
Joanne
Mole.
Vogue
People have such a problem with my mole.
Joanne
It's.
Vogue
It's getting out of hand.
John
Oh, they need to off, mate.
Joanne
Yeah, they need to off. Yeah.
Vogue
I don't even have any hairs coming out of it. And. And if you continue like that, I will let them grow. There'll be no more plucking, and then I'll have a hairy mole for you to contend with. I'm not getting rid of it because even if now I can't get rid of it, even if I have to, because it will just feel like I've given in.
Joanne
I don't even see it, to be honest.
Vogue
I know, but people like. That's all I see in my. I'm like, oh, my God. Relax about the mole. They're so mean. Christ.
Joanne
They're mole shaming you. And we won't stand for it.
Vogue
I do get mole shamed.
Joanne
So basically, I won't be ringing you anymore now, Vogue. I'll be sending down a town crier to give you my news.
Vogue
Okay, fantastic.
Joanne
We're going analog. Yeah.
Vogue
There's a chance that there's a chance Joanne. Joanne might be. Now, she said this last night. I don't know if it still stands today. She might be still living in the same area as me. So that's really good news for me. Going into 2026, it's the best News I could have received.
Joanne
Yeah, I might be keeping. I might be keeping it. Keeping it old school, keeping it local in the Clapham area.
Vogue
Yeah. But.
Joanne
Oh, another 2026. 2026 prediction. I will own a home. Fingers crossed. Yeah, there. But by the grace of God go I. It's my own girl for next year.
John
Me too, actually.
Joanne
No way.
Vogue
Really?
Joanne
I thought you did own your eyes.
John
No, I don't own this. This isn't my house. No, I will. I will be well own my first home next year.
Joanne
Fantastic, Joe.
Vogue
Look at all this is. Guys, this is really amazing news. Well done. And just.
Joanne
Oh, my God.
Vogue
I've got great news for both of you. So, my. I don't like having New Year's. Like, I don't like having resolutions, but I have one. I've told Joanne about it already. Basically, I have so much stuff and I've had to put loads in storage and stuff that I've been keeping, being like, oh, I'll use it one day. I'm getting rid of at least 50. Of what? Well, I did say 25 yesterday. At least 35 of what? I have a lot of. It's house stuff. So. Joe, Joanne, fill your boots. It's good stuff. Can't keep it all. I don't know what I'm saving it for, but this is great. So you guys buy houses and I can get rid of my. And put them in the house.
John
You can fill them up.
Joanne
I'd love. Are you serious? I'd love that. Me and Joe will go down like an Antiques Road fair. Let's do it.
Vogue
I'll tell you what, you know what? You know what I'll get for you for Christmas? Something for my new sofa collection. Now, I haven't asked if I can give you something, but now that I've said it on the podcast, I will have to give to you both a sofa for my new sofa collection.
Joanne
Thank you, folk. That is so kind and generous.
Vogue
Jamie, if you're listening, you have to sort that out.
Joanne
You're like your man in. In the Charles Dickens show. He flips the money down and helps the child to buy a turkey. What's his name?
Vogue
I don't know. I've never seen movies like that. I told you, I only watched. I only watched Beauty and the Beast.
Joanne
Joe, what was the scene when, in the Christmas movie where your man flicks the money down in the.
John
Oh, Scrooge.
Joanne
Is it Scrooge?
John
Yeah.
Joanne
Oh, sorry. Because I was saying, folks, saying you have your. I'm gifting you two couches. I Was like, she's like your man up in the window throwing the money down to the two orphans below.
Vogue
Please, please. Gotta be a bit embarrassing now if I'm. If I'm not allowed to give them to you. So you know that there's different parenting things even over here where kids go to something. It's called forest school and basically they're just outside all day long, come rain, shine, whatever. They're just left outside and do nursery. Like they could be there at 9T3 every day and people swear by it and say it's really, really good for the kids. Over in the Netherlands there's something. It's a tradition and they call it dropping. And you basically leave your children in the woods at night and they have to find their way home.
Joanne
Yeah.
Vogue
And it's not. It's meant to be like a scouting and parenting exercise to build confidence, teamwork and navigational skills. Can you imagine us being at home and then our kids just ditching us in a forest and having to find your way home. My kids wouldn't even know how to find their way to. To the co op around the corner and back. I wouldn't trust it.
Joanne
I could probably have done with a bit of that, to be honest.
Vogue
I think was Molly coddles there is.
Joanne
I think I could have done with a bit of that. Yeah. I wouldn't mind that.
John
What age are we talking like quite now?
Vogue
They do, they do keep. They monitor them from a distance to make sure that they're safe. So actually I think it might. But like I hope that they tell them that like they're monitoring them.
Joanne
I don't see any harm in it at all. Says one with no children. I see nothing wrong with that. That sounds healthy. You're getting them in nature. They're touching grass. They're using their bear Grylls abilities to come back.
Vogue
Well, I've heard of that thing like over in Norway and Finland and stuff like that. They leave babies outside to have their nap because they think that they not better outside but they're all obviously tucked up. I get that. In Japan they send the kids out as young as three to run errands on their own so they'll cross roads, use public transport and build independence. But Japan is like anybody could go out in Japan. It's so safe and like everyone's so, so well behaved there that I, I could let anyone out.
Joanne
In Japan I worry that if I had a child I wouldn't let it ever leave the house at all. It'd be like a house cash I would just have it on a bungee cord in our private family home. I'd be so terrified someone would take us.
Vogue
I was talking to my friend Lucy yesterday and I was like, when they start going out, because our kids are. Are really good friends and have been since they were babies. And I was like, I'll tell you what, when they start going out, like when they're 16, 17, we'll split the bill of it, like a security guy just to follow them around. I'm too. I won't be. I won't be able to sleep. It will be a horrible anxiety for me. And you have to let them go out. But, like, there's nothing. No one said anything about unleashing a security man on them.
Joanne
Kids are smarter than you think. I've told my two nephews because I'm going away for Christmas with my extended family and my two teenage nephews, and it'll be the first time we spend this much time together. So I'm like, you're gonna get to know your Auntie Joanne quite well. And if she is face down to the pill for any longer than 15 minutes, I have taught them CPR and I might drag her out and begin resuscitation.
Vogue
Are they really looking forward to it? Have you got. I think it'll bond the cash in an envelope for them. What are you getting them for Christmas?
Joanne
Oh, it'll be cash. They. All they want is cash. And then they send thanks, full stop. And then that's. We. We. Yeah, thanks, full stop. I'm waiting until. I'm waiting for an exclamation point at some time. Who knows? Who knows if it'll come?
John
But you can incentivize the CPR as well. Just, you know, there's an extra hundred for you.
Vogue
Yes, you know, whoever saves me. Yeah.
Joanne
If it's on her lylo.
Vogue
John, how hot do I think is going to be there? Is it going to be hot?
Joanne
No, I don't think it'll be super hot. I think it'll be averagely hot. But of course, I'm. I'm. I'm assuming I'm going to kind of reboot my whole life over there, but I don't know how hot it will be. I think it'll be, like, enjoyably hot. I don't think I'll tan as such. I think I'll be on the Bear by Vogue.
Vogue
But my mother has been sending me the weather updates from Spain non stop because she's like, she's so worried about us coming down and not Being sunny. I'm like, listen, I just want to go somewhere where it's not dark. So I don't really care.
Joanne
Something is happening next May. That is. This is in the predictions as well, but it's not a prediction because it's actually a fact. Because it's happening. Something's happening. Something's happening next May 2026. We, you know, we have the Olympic Games. They're putting on the enhanced Games.
Vogue
What's that?
Joanne
Where people will openly be allowed to take performance enhancers.
Vogue
Oh, that's interesting, isn't it?
Joanne
Yeah. So I put Pat in for the gymnastics.
Vogue
Is this true?
Joanne
I've got her a puma horse for Christmas and a box of talc.
John
Her Christmas turkey is going to be laced.
Vogue
What's it called? What's it called? What are they called?
Joanne
Steroids.
Vogue
So everyone's. Everyone's going to use steroids?
Joanne
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he's been and gone at this stage, hasn't he?
Vogue
Well, no, I was watching the Lance Armstrong. There's some show he did. I was kind of in and out of it because Fanny was watching. I wasn't really looking at it. And supposedly he was saying that, like, all of them were on these drugs and then eventually he just ended up getting caught. But they were all honest.
Joanne
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Vogue
That sounds like it wasn't just me. That's like throwing everyone, literally everyone under the bus, including himself.
Joanne
I think the Olympics are supposed to be the natural Games. Like, that was the point of the Olympics. But they just can't. They just cannot figure it out, figure out how to keep the steroidy, whatever, enhancement things out of it. They just can't. And it's really hard to test. They're like, all right, us.
Vogue
I have no idea why. The first thing that came to my mind was people who have had surgical enhancements with. That's what I thought you meant. I was like, what? Boob jobs? Everything I don't really get. Like, how does that make a difference? That's. That's the first thing I thought of.
Joanne
The swan is back Vogue and you are the. You are presenting it. How do you feel about that?
Vogue
Honestly? I would be so.
Joanne
Would you?
Vogue
Thrilled. It was. That was. I did a show on plastics. It depends who wants to get it done or what they want to get done. But I thought that that was really interesting. Do you know what, El? I was watching reality shows, remember? I don't even know if we can keep this in. It was so bad. Remember when it just popped up for some reason? Today on my Instagram, Roxan palace said that your man Ryan Thomas hit her in Big Brother and was going on and on and on about it and basically tried to get him cancelled and everyone had seen what had happened and she totally blew this whole thing out of the water. Was that not the most insane reality you've ever seen in your life?
Joanne
Yeah, yeah. It's up there with David is dead and the housewife ripping her leg off. She got the only thing fake about me is and then ripped it off. I've spoken about that again at length recently, but. Yeah. Is she just gone now? Does she kind of disappear? Because that was pretty bad behavior.
Vogue
Yeah, I think she kind of disappeared after that. But like, that's. I. That's what I love about reality TV. All those insane. Remember Jillian McKeith as well, when she used to pretend to faint on. On I'm a Celebrity. Get Me out of Here. And she fainted and then like she fainted, was lying on the ground and her top had come up and she pulled it straight down and still pretended to be painted.
Joanne
She did not.
Vogue
She did. Do you remember that, Joe? She fainted and then her top would come up and she pulled the top back down but was still like being fainted. She was still faint on the ground with her eyes closed and everything. She's after Jimmy. She's mad for Jimmy painting. So she's done that. And it says, I love you, Mommy. You are so nice. I just wanted to remind you of this close. When I am old.
Joanne
So cute.
Vogue
Timothy Chalamet. Now you look. You know how I love a bit of grime music.
Joanne
Yes.
Vogue
So there's a rapper that I love now called SD Kids Genome. Joe, I don't. John, I know you know that this.
John
Is not my genre.
Vogue
Me neither.
John
Thank you for trying to bring me in, but. But no, I don't even try and bring me.
Vogue
You should listen to John because he's this Liverpool rapper and he's Just listen to his voice and stuff. He's a really good rapper. He's like the next big thing in grime. He kind of is the big thing in grime at the moment anyway. He doesn't show his face bit like Banksy and he only see his eyes and everyone is convinced that it's Timothy.
Joanne
Oh, yeah.
Vogue
So there's a theory that it's actually Timothy Chalamet who is SD Kid. And he. He's kind.
Joanne
He.
Vogue
When he was asked about it, I think he did Heart Breakfast, actually. And he was asked about it and he said oh, well, I can't confirm or deny or something. So he hasn't completely denied it.
Joanne
He's having a bit of a. He's. I shouldn't say a bit of a moment. He's having a massive moment at the moment. He's gone full last few years. Yeah, he's gone full method. He's going out with Kylie Jenner. He is in the UK at the moment promoting this ping pong film, which I'm sure is great, but you lost me a pink. I have no interest. But what I did think was interesting was, well, firstly he called out Susan Boyle as being like his. One of his big British icons recently, which I thought was quite sweet. So this ping pong thing, right, he's playing this ping pong person. He was huge back in the day. Can't remember his name. I didn't write it down.
Vogue
But I.
Joanne
Was like, how method is Timothy Chalamet? Did he ping his own pong for the film? Did he play the. Did he play the ping pong himself?
Vogue
Are you talking about table tennis?
Joanne
Yes. Okay, it's. They're calling it ping pong.
Vogue
No, they do. It is ping pong. But I just wasn't sure if you're. I don't know why. I just wasn't. I wasn't sure if it was table tennis. So did he learn how to do proper ping ponging?
Joanne
Six years. That's what I said, Joe. I said it took me seven years to do a three year degree because I didn't go in. Like, you didn't go. You didn't attend regularly for six years? Now this is like, now, can I just say one thing you didn't get.
Vogue
Remember the, Remember the ping ponging in Forrest Gump? Like, it's that level of ping ponging that he would be doing in the ping pong movie. So it would take a long time to get to that level. Like, they absolutely belt the ball at each other. That would be a reason I'd go to see that.
Joanne
Well, it's one of the reasons. If I was an actor, I'd be like, you know what? Actually, maybe AI isn't the worst thing that could ever happen.
Vogue
Jesus Christ.
Joanne
I'm like, maybe AI isn't the worst thing that could happen to us. If, you know, well, I don't stand for AI as a member of the Actors Guild. If they're willing to do the heavy lifting on like ping pong Grant. I mean, imagine getting cast in that film and they're like, you've got the part and you're like, oh, my God. Amazing. And they're like, we don't start shooting for six years because Timothy Chalamet, you imagine the child doctors would already be in prison for sexual allegations.
John
Well.
Vogue
Martin Kemp did say to me in the jungle that he had basically got this acting job where he was a ski teacher. So his, his role was being a ski teacher. They're like, can you ski? And he was like, yeah, yeah, I can ski. Anyway, he shows up on the day to ski, filming in Austria, wherever they were, and it's him and, like, four other actors who are also being ski teachers. And then they very quickly realized that. That none of them could ski. Like, oh, they'd never skied in their whole life. So what they had to do was for six weeks, they had to get all these private lessons and they were taught how to ski because none of them had learned it for the movie. So I think there's a lot of bullshitting that goes on. So maybe he did a bit of ping ponging, but I don't think he was. I think he looks like the kind of guy who would play ping pong anyway. So I think he was just doing it a happy accident that this came along, this role. I don't think he was. I don't think they were waiting for him for six years to learn the ping pong.
Joanne
Six years, you'd be in the Enhanced Games. Like, you'd be going pro.
Vogue
You'd learn to fly, ready to go.
Joanne
I could. Six years. I could. I could genuinely man the search for Malaysian Airlines. I'd be like, I'd be down.
Vogue
I'd be like, I love Joanne's confidence. There's no way you would learn ping ponging in six years. You'd lose interest after day two. How's the tennis, Joanne?
Joanne
How dare you Vogue. It's not the season for it. It's winter now. I was thrown off the courts.
John
With respect, let's wait till June. Let's just.
Joanne
Yeah. The courts are frozen over. Vogue.
Vogue
Oh, sorry. It's so weird. I must have. I must. It must have been a mirage. Those people I saw at Battersea tennis courts.
Joanne
You missed the ice. You missed the ice folk, because you're moving house and you're busy, distracted.
Vogue
Give up the tennis and just go with the bloody pickleball. Will you go with paddle?
Joanne
It's.
Vogue
It's a better sport for you. It's quicker.
Joanne
Whatever gets me closer to the debris. Whatever gets me closer to the debris. Getting your wetsuit for Christmas, please, On a metal detector. That's it for this week. We're, we're, we're veering, we're skidding towards Christmas where we are. We will take a natural break. We've one bonus left next week. Is that right, Joe?
Vogue
Yeah.
John
Christmas Eve.
Vogue
Yeah.
Joanne
Bonus on Christmas Eve.
Vogue
Christmas Eve.
Joanne
I could sing Vogue.
Vogue
Do I even need to be here? Then would she just do some carol songs and I'll just keep my nose out of it.
Joanne
Just put you in an AI Vogue. I don't know why any of us turn up to anything. Anyone, to be honest.
Vogue
So, yes, we'll see you for the bonus and then we're having a little time off, as are you and thank you very much and goodbye. I'm off to a Christmas party for now, less than an hour, but because I spent too long drinking and talking.
Joanne
With you, she said so resentful. Sorry for giving you the day of your life. Sorry.
Vogue
Thank you so much. This has been a global player original production.
Episode: Christmas Party, Debris & Ping-Pong
Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Date: December 19, 2025
In this festive and irreverent episode, Vogue and Joanne gather for a casual, boozy Christmas party, reflecting on the end of the year, their friendship, absurd predictions for 2026, pop culture oddities, and current obsessions—from missing planes to ping-pong movies. Their signature blend of honesty and humor shines as they banter about Christmas burnout, board game comebacks, and societal trends, with plenty of self-deprecating stories and quick-witted asides.
Joanne’s self-awareness about body reactions to Christmas:
“My body just cockroaches its way forward and then every last week in December, it’s like 'ah here, off, will ya.'” (Joanne, 04:14)
On being easily starstruck:
“I’m not like Spencer. I’m not... I just tend to get shy. And I’m not a shy person, but around certain people, I get shy.” (Vogue, 05:05)
On the ‘Great Unfollowing’ era:
“There's going to be what they're calling a great unfollowing. So people are going to do a huge unfollowing of their followers... I’m more of a muter.” (Joanne & Vogue, 24:14-24:15)
On enhanced Olympics:
“I put Pat in for the gymnastics... I’ve got her a puma horse for Christmas and a box of talc.” (Joanne, 32:14)
On letting children find their way home (Dutch tradition):
“Can you imagine us being at home and then our kids just ditching us in a forest and having to find your way home.” (Vogue, 28:27)
Banter about podcast stardom:
“If you can find Malaysian Airlines and we can do a documentary about it, I’m pretty sure we’ll be there [Golden Globes].” (John, 15:37)
The episode brims with the hosts' energetic, tongue-in-cheek tone. Banter flies quickly, ranging from totally honest confessions to wild, satirical flights of fancy. Joanne is particularly deadpan and cutting, while Vogue alternates between earnest and wry. There is little filter and much laughter, making the episode both a therapy session and a comedy hour.
This episode is a quintessential “My Therapist Ghosted Me”—chatty, confessional, and deliciously irreverent. If you want a Christmas episode that’s less about holiday schmaltz and more about dodging social obligations, poking fun at modern culture, and celebrating friendship with a drink in hand, this one delivers.