Podcast Summary: My Therapist Ghosted Me

Episode: Christmas Party, Debris & Ping-Pong
Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Date: December 19, 2025

Overview

In this festive and irreverent episode, Vogue and Joanne gather for a casual, boozy Christmas party, reflecting on the end of the year, their friendship, absurd predictions for 2026, pop culture oddities, and current obsessions—from missing planes to ping-pong movies. Their signature blend of honesty and humor shines as they banter about Christmas burnout, board game comebacks, and societal trends, with plenty of self-deprecating stories and quick-witted asides.

Key Topics & Highlights

1. Kicking Off the "Ghosted" Christmas Party [00:16-02:15]

• Technical banter as Joanne struggles with her microphone:
  “My mic's very much swinging to the left. It's very Conor McGregor penis Cody today.” (Joanne, 00:27)
• A toast to making it to year's end:
  “We have made it to the end of the year. This is always the toughest part, it seems, because everyone is completely out of steam... I'd like to say thank you to all the listeners... and Joanne and Joe, I feel extremely lucky that I get to work with you two every week.” (Vogue, 01:15)

2. The Power of Therapy Animals... and Joanne as a Beta Blocker [02:16-03:35]

• Joanne jokes about being Vogue’s human therapy dog:
  “She called me a human beta blocker. I'm basically like her little therapy dog.” (Joanne, 02:16)
• Hilarious attempt to smuggle Joanne as an ‘emotional support animal’ by giving her a jacket:
  “If you put me in a little jacket, Vogue, you can bring me on anything you want for free. Allegedly.” (Joanne, 03:05)

3. Christmas Burnout & Cancelled Plans [06:42-07:27]

• The exhaustion of seasonal socializing:
  “I blew my load too soon... Now I’ve spent the morning canceling all remaining Christmas plans.” (Joanne, 06:42)
• Reflection on forced socializing:
  “There’s a pressure of like, ‘if we don’t see at Christmas, it’s not a real friendship. We must meet for a drink.’” (Joanne, 07:05)

4. Joanne’s Obsession: The Search for Malaysian Airlines Flight [07:30-11:41]

• Joanne updates on renewed search for MH370, with dark humor about finding debris:
  “If we all look for a bit of debris over the Christmas season and we build something together, we could probably chip in on the 56 million. I'll fake the black box myself, put on a Malaysian accent.” (Joanne, 10:28)
• Vogue’s skepticism and banter on conspiracy theories:
  "They have more of a chance of finding Santa Claus than they do of finding the missing Malaysian Airlines flight." (Vogue, 08:45)
• Joanne and Vogue riff on alternative methods for making money, like celebrity boxing.

5. The Absurdity of Celebrity Gift Bags & Golden Globes [12:20-14:56]

• Hosts react to over-the-top Golden Globes gift bag goodies, valued at nearly $1 million:
  “Beachfront villa trip, three-night stay in Turks and Caicos valued at over 500,000. I don’t believe that. Come on.” (Vogue, 13:47)
• News that podcasts are now a Golden Globes category sparks dreams of attending:
  “The Golden Globes have just put podcasts in as a category for the first ever... So I think we will be attending.” (Joanne, 13:09)

6. Future Predictions for 2026 & Societal Trends [16:42-24:24]

• Discuss pop predictions that didn’t come true: aliens never came, no assassination attempt on Elon Musk, etc.
• Social media “great unfollowing” and analog resurgence:
  “There’s going to be a return to like traditional values and it’s all gonna be really cool to be like darning wool in petrol stations... I’m gonna have a self-driving penny farthing bike.” (Joanne, 23:25)
• The return of board games and drop in sex (“sex session”):
  “The sex session will continue... The recession of sex. What you mean less riding than ever before?” (Joanne, 22:00)

7. Parenting, Childhood Independence, and Safety Anxieties [27:53-30:23]

• Vogue marvels at Dutch and Japanese traditions of fostering child independence:
  “In Japan they send the kids out as young as three to run errands on their own... But Japan is so safe and like everyone's so well behaved there...” (Vogue, 29:21)
• Anxiety about letting her own kids go:
  “When they start going out... we’ll split the bill of a security guy just to follow them around. I won’t be able to sleep.” (Vogue, 29:58)

8. Property Goals and Generosity [25:51-27:43]

• Joanne and John resolve to buy homes in 2026; Vogue plans to offload excess belongings:
  “So you guys buy houses and I can get rid of my stuff and put them in the house.” (Vogue, 26:19)
• Promise to gift sofas from Vogue's new collection:
  “I will have to give to you both a sofa for my new sofa collection.” (Vogue, 27:17)

9. Ping Pong Obsession: Timothy Chalamet Conspiracies & Method Acting [35:39-39:59]

• Discussion of grime musician “SD Kid” and the theory he is secretly Timothy Chalamet.
• Delve into Chalamet’s reported dedication for an upcoming ping-pong film:
  “How method is Timothy Chalamet? Did he ping his own pong for the film?... Six years. (he trained)” (Joanne, 37:08)
• General skepticism over actors' claimed training regimes vs. reality.

10. Enhanced Olympics & Doping [31:49-33:44]

• Explore the new “Enhanced Games” where performance enhancers are allowed:
  “They're putting on the enhanced Games... where people will openly be allowed to take performance enhancers.” (Joanne, 32:07)
• Comparisons with past doping scandals (e.g., Lance Armstrong).

11. Social Media Shaming & Muting Etiquette [24:15-25:20]

• Discussion of muting rather than unfollowing people online:
  “I’m more of a muter. I follow people that I’d rather not follow, but I can’t unfollow them because it’s rude.” (Vogue, 24:15)
• Vogue addresses being “mole shamed”:
  “I don’t even have any hairs coming out of it... If you continue like that, I will let them grow. There’ll be no more plucking, and then I’ll have a hairy mole for you to contend with.” (Vogue, 24:56)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joanne’s self-awareness about body reactions to Christmas:

  “My body just cockroaches its way forward and then every last week in December, it’s like 'ah here, off, will ya.'” (Joanne, 04:14)

• On being easily starstruck:

  “I’m not like Spencer. I’m not... I just tend to get shy. And I’m not a shy person, but around certain people, I get shy.” (Vogue, 05:05)

• On the ‘Great Unfollowing’ era:

  “There's going to be what they're calling a great unfollowing. So people are going to do a huge unfollowing of their followers... I’m more of a muter.” (Joanne & Vogue, 24:14-24:15)

• On enhanced Olympics:

  “I put Pat in for the gymnastics... I’ve got her a puma horse for Christmas and a box of talc.” (Joanne, 32:14)

• On letting children find their way home (Dutch tradition):

  “Can you imagine us being at home and then our kids just ditching us in a forest and having to find your way home.” (Vogue, 28:27)

• Banter about podcast stardom:

  “If you can find Malaysian Airlines and we can do a documentary about it, I’m pretty sure we’ll be there [Golden Globes].” (John, 15:37)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:16] — Episode opens, Christmas party introductions, mic mishaps
• [01:15] — Vogue's heartfelt thank-you speech
• [02:16] — Therapy animal jokes
• [06:42] — Christmas social fatigue/canceled plans
• [07:30] — Joanne on Malaysian Airlines MH370
• [12:20] — Golden Globes gift bag discussion
• [16:42] — 2026 predictions, society’s analog “return”
• [24:15] — Social media etiquette: muting vs. unfollowing
• [27:53] — Parenting traditions abroad, childhood independence
• [31:49] — Enhanced Olympics, performance-enhancing drugs
• [35:39] — Timothy Chalamet grime rumors & ping-pong movie
• [40:23] — Outro and upcoming holiday bonus

Tone & Style

The episode brims with the hosts' energetic, tongue-in-cheek tone. Banter flies quickly, ranging from totally honest confessions to wild, satirical flights of fancy. Joanne is particularly deadpan and cutting, while Vogue alternates between earnest and wry. There is little filter and much laughter, making the episode both a therapy session and a comedy hour.

For Listeners

This episode is a quintessential “My Therapist Ghosted Me”—chatty, confessional, and deliciously irreverent. If you want a Christmas episode that’s less about holiday schmaltz and more about dodging social obligations, poking fun at modern culture, and celebrating friendship with a drink in hand, this one delivers.