Getting Arrested, Chappell Roan Drama & Mushrooms

Summary

My Therapist Ghosted Me

Episode: Getting Arrested, Chappell Roan Drama & Mushrooms

Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Release Date: March 27, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode finds Joanne broadcasting from LA’s Hollywood Hills and Vogue checking in from London. They navigate a whirlwind of hilarious stories and candid chats, tackling topics including being “over-therapized,” celebrity culture, wild nights in Los Angeles, viral pop star drama, and the pitfalls of becoming tabloid fodder. The duo also touches on extreme fan behavior, their own friendship dynamics, and ends up debunking a popular Walt Disney myth.

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Major Discussion Points & Insights

1. Joanne's LA Adventures & Celebrity Encounters

• Joanne is in Los Angeles, taking meetings with entertainment execs and having near-encounters with stars like Whoopi Goldberg, Sting, and Kevin Hart.
• Joanne: “I’m finally on this kind of pointless meeting journey where you just go in and take meetings and nothing happens.” [08:05]
• Humorous recounting of LA clichés—pointless industry meetings, Hollywood workwear, and trying to “crack America.”
• Joanne jokes that Vogue can just ride her coattails when she “makes it” in the States. [09:13]

2. "Over-Therapized" Society and Personal Reflections

• Discussion about whether too much therapy is a thing, referencing celebrities (like Dave Grohl and Prince Harry) and public displays of “therapy speak.”
• Vogue: “Sometimes you can start thinking things you wouldn’t have focused on had you not been going to too much therapy.” [02:16]
• On “Echo Chambers” in therapy and the Irish tendency to sidestep over-examination.

3. Mushrooms, Messy Nights & Podcast Mishaps

• Joanne reveals she cancelled the previous day's recording after accidentally eating “nine kilos of mushrooms” (psilocybin, not the supermarket kind).
• She sent accidental video notes to her US manager while “tripping balls for 12 hours.” [04:56]

4. Luggage Talk & LA Living

• The girls riff on their approaches to luggage—Vogue is tidy and has 10-year-old luggage; Joanne is chaotic and only had one clean (Freddy Krueger-esque) jumper left for LA.
• Joanne buys copious amounts of alcohol in the US ("giant buzz balls” and bottles of vodka/tequila) and leaves it all for housekeeping. [12:24]

5. New TV Projects

• Joanne is announced as team captain on TLC’s new UK panel show “Unacceptable” with Ed Gamble and Richard Ayoade.
• The show involves comedians defending unpopular opinions. [13:42]

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6. Chappell Roan Drama & Internet Pile-Ons

• Recap of the viral Chappell Roan incident in Brazil where the pop star was accused of sending security to berate an 11-year-old fan.
  • Vogue and Joanne stress the lack of nuance online, criticizing snap judgments and celeb pile-ons.
  • Joanne: “The internet has never waited to get the full story on anything… where’s the nuance?” [21:59]
• They empathize with pop stars dealing with persistent fan and paparazzi attention but also note Roan’s reputation for being "ratty" with the public.
• The conversation touches on the double standard for celebrity behavior and the impossible expectations for public figures to be endlessly patient.

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7. Therapy & The “Cut Off” Phenomenon

• The hosts discuss the current self-help trend of blanketly cutting off toxic people, sometimes to excess.
  • Personal anecdotes about friends who, “going through intense therapy,” have threatened to cut them off for boundaries’ sake.
  • Vogue: “If I’m arguing with more than one person, I’m like, hang on, am I the common denominator here?” [15:42]
• Refer to Taylor Swift’s lyric: “It’s me, hi, I’m the problem, it’s me.” [15:58]
• Questioning whether all family and friendship traumas must be “unpacked.”

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8. Paparazzi, Viral Clips, and Celebrity Privacy

• Discussion of the video circulating of Chappell Roan at the airport, the ethics of filming celebrities, and comparisons to Justin Bieber—who refused fan requests outside his home.
• Joanne and Vogue riff on the absurdity and pressure of constant public scrutiny as a celeb. [22:47]
• Note touchy relationships between stars and paps: “I don’t think the internet has ever waited to get the full story on anything.” [21:59]

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9. Justin Timberlake DUI & Celebrity Mugshots

• The resurfacing of Justin Timberlake’s 2024 DUI arrest dashboard footage, and how quickly embarrassing moments can define a celebrity’s public narrative.
• Vogue: “He had said he’d only had one drink. That man had 14,000. He had 12 of those buzz balls. He was absolutely deranged.” [28:48]
• The pair joke about the importance of looking good for your future mugshot, musing on the media’s hunger for scandal.
  • Joanne: “Bring that ring light wherever you go… you never know when you’ll need it for your mugshot.” [32:32]

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10. Book, TV, and Podcast Recommendations

• Joanne reviews “The Housemaid” film (mixed feelings but watched all of it on a plane) [43:47]
• Mentions Jeanette McCurdy’s “I’m Glad My Mom Died” as a must-read, and teases her new fiction “Half His Age.” [48:37]
• Vogue is hooked on Marian Keyes’ “Last Chance Saloon” and plans to read Kathy Burke’s new book. [46:30]
• Both joke about starting a book club that “never happens.”

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11. Celebrity Culture & LA Life Banter

• Joanne rubs elbows with Alana Glazer (Broad City), wears a Wu-Tang Clan thrifted top, and shares cringe tales about finding out the thrift top stank (“Only the two of us spent about fifteen minutes smelling each other’s armpits…” [41:11])
• Discussion on staged paparazzi shots, with both hosts recalling stories from their fame-adjacent circles.
• Joke about joining the lesbian community: “Can I not enjoy the company of another woman without wanting to go down on her? No. So... no, obviously not, Vogue. That’s how I roll.” [36:13]

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12. Final Segment: Urban Legends & Freezing Yourself

• The Walt Disney frozen myth is debunked: he was cremated, not cryogenically preserved. [50:52]
  • Vogue: “Should we tell the listeners? It feels a bit disappointing now that I know that.” [51:24]
• Brief discussion on cryogenics and the first man preserved for science (James Bedford – “Whoever that man is…”). [51:37]
• Both firmly decide not to be frozen after death: “Thank you, but no thank you.” [52:32]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joanne: “If I don’t get agreed with [in therapy], I’m like, well, I won’t see you next week. How about that?” [02:44]
• Joanne: “I ate nine kilos of mushrooms…tripping balls for about 12 hours.” [04:56]
• Vogue (on celebrity feuds): “I think it’s got to do with the Diddy stuff. Like, this is my own opinion, there’s no basis to it.” [26:49]
• Joanne (on mugshots): “Bring that ring light wherever you go because… you want to look good.” [32:32]
• Vogue: “Sometimes less said, soonest mended.” [17:06]
• Joanne: “I’m a huge Wu-Tang Clan fan… That’s why I bought the top.” [41:33]
• Vogue: “I love to be a lesbian. Wouldn’t it be great?” [36:28]
• Joanne: “The internet… she’s a bloody child’s killer at this point, people. Like, she’s a murderer.” [22:07]

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Key Timestamps

• 00:12 – Joanne checks in from Hollywood, US celeb chat
• 04:56 – Joanne’s mushroom misadventure
• 09:45 – Joanne’s battered suitcase saga; arrival in LA
• 13:42 – New TV panel show “Unacceptable” revealed
• 14:24–24:54 – Chappell Roan drama deep-dive, internet outrage, celebrity privacy
• 28:48–32:49 – Justin Timberlake DUI, mugshot culture
• 40:01–42:18 – Wu-Tang Clan thrift store odor incident
• 46:30–49:18 – Book chat: “Last Chance Saloon,” “The Housemaid,” Jeanette McCurdy book
• 50:52 – Walt Disney frozen myth investigated and debunked

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Episode Tone & Dynamics

A whirlwind of playful rivalry, cheerful irreverence, celebrity anecdotes, and Irish wit. Joanne and Vogue's banter is hilariously honest, jumping between pop culture drama, personal confessions, and social commentary, always with a self-aware, tongue-in-cheek approach. The show remains consistently lighthearted, even when handling “serious” topics.

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For Listeners: Takeaways

• If you’re after a dose of laughter and authenticity about the madness of modern celebrity and social life, this episode delivers.
• Apt to jump topic but always entertaining, Vogue and Joanne’s chemistry ensures even the most random stories feel relatable.
• Listen for insights into therapy culture, online pile-ons, showbiz behind-the-scenes, and the little-known perils of second-hand Wu-Tang Clan shirts.

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Transcript

[A]

This is a Global Player original podcast.

[B]

Hello from Hollywood. I'm in Los Angeles.

[A]

Are you in America?

[B]

I'm in America. Vogue. I'm in la. I'm in the Hollywood Hills. I just had Whoopi Goldberg and Sting. They were. Yeah, I do like them. I'm off to meet Kevin Hart now.

[A]

Oh, fantastic. Tell him.

[B]

I was asking from me. I said, bono, I said, I have no time to hang out with Irish people over here. I'm flat out now.

[A]

I'm sure. You sure you didn't enjoy you two anyway, did you not?

[B]

I didn't enjoy you two in the sphere, as we know. Notoriously disenjoyed it. Do you know that I. That I actually met a guy yesterday who I had met in the sphere. We went for drinks. Christina, my Irish agent, had to keep bring. Had to keep bringing me in and out of the box in the sphere because I was getting in a verticomas. Overexcited

[A]

from the girl who hated you too.

[B]

Yeah. He was like, I never hated them. I. I am a YouTube fan. But he was saying that I was being brought in and out. He's like, do you not remember? I was like, no memory that at all. Fucking mental. Anyway, good times.

[A]

I thought you were, you were in the corner knitting, not even like looking up at them because you didn't enjoy it. Even though I saw you hanging off the balcony danc.

[B]

I know. I was trying to. I was trying to climb my way down to David Grell. God love him. He's back, David. He's back. He says. I read an interview with David Grill the other day because, remember, he had the. The issue.

[A]

You call him David. Dave. Dave.

[B]

Is it Dave?

[A]

Dave.

[B]

Hey, growl. Yeah, that works. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He's like McNally.

[A]

He, he.

[B]

Apparently I read an interview with him the other day. It was in the garden. He was saying that he. He did therapy every day for a year.

[A]

You see, I. That concerns me. I mean, I. I feel like some people seem over therapized. Like, you know, when Prince Harry started. Well, talking publicly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It was very obvious that he had been through a lot of therapy. And sometimes I feel that I am. I love therapy. I think it's a great tool to help you, but I think that sometimes it can be quite a lot. Yeah. And think. I think that like, sometimes you can start thinking things that maybe aren't 100% something that you would have focused on had you not been going to too much therapy.

[B]

This is very diplomatic vogue. You sound like you've had therapy.

[A]

I have had therapy.

[B]

You've had therapy and how to deal with people who are over the. That's what this sounds like.

[A]

I have therapy and if. If I don't get agreed with, I'm like, well, I won't see you next week. How about that?

[B]

How dare you interrupt my echo chamber.

[A]

If you want to tell me who's right again, if you want to try it again, then I might consider seeing you next week.

[B]

It's like Ireland and the Lisbon treaties. Remember, we voted no and the government went, let's try again. We're going to keep doing this until you say yes and then we'll carry on. Yeah, I know. Well, I have to say, I do. Why are my glasses steaming up? Why is that happening?

[A]

Can I. Well, it's probably a mixture of the glasses and the eye patches. I was. I shouldn't do it, but I saw our comments on Tick Tock and, like, obviously new people that don't see us on Tik Tok. It's a different audience and some guys. What's wrong with that girl? Is she blind?

[B]

Maybe I am, Dave.

[A]

Another Dave.

[B]

Maybe I am. If Anastasia can wear glasses inside now. I do actually think she has an eye condition.

[A]

I don't know if she does.

[B]

My condition is I'm in LA and

[A]

it's 8am It's 8am we have you at 8am you do.

[B]

You bastards.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Well, obviously, like, just to let the listeners know, I ended up canceling the podcast yesterday, which I very rarely do, because.

[A]

You're the worst, counselor. And then Joanne doesn't just cancel yesterday, she goes, it's very serious. I can't do the part. And then obviously, because I am an Anx person, I was like, oh, Jesus Christ. Someone. Someone's kidnapped her. She's going to end up in a bin. She's going to end up in a bin, dead, being dragged out of that hotel. What's happening? No response till the next day.

[B]

See, I didn't realize I'd said it was very serious. So what happened was, because I woke up, I was like, why is everyone ringing me?

[A]

SM the sunrise emoji. So it was like, I can't do the podcast tomorrow morning. Sunrise emoji. It's very serious. And I was like, oh, no, this is bad.

[B]

I was wondering why everyone was like, are you okay? I ate a. I ate. I ate nine kilos of mushrooms. That's what happened. And I was tripping balls for about 12 hours. And then I was accidentally sending video notes to my American manager, Mac, and we're only newly working together. I'd say she's like this nut job

[A]

in America. She used to it in America, you know when the.

[B]

You know when you accidentally send a video note but like, you don't mean to and it's just your chin kind of moving around. Anyway, that's what happened. So I, and, and I apologized to. I texted Joe. Then I was like, look, I'm sorry about that, about the bit of drama there. And he's like, mate, I'm on my holidays. And I was like, ah, good for you.

[A]

Joe couldn't give a. What you're doing my holidays. Yeah.

[B]

He's like, I don't care, I've tapped out.

[A]

But anyway, then you stopped seeing his profile picture because he blocked you. He's blocked you for the next two weeks.

[B]

For the next two weeks. He should rightly so, Joe. If anyone enjoys, if anyone deserves a holiday, it's Joe Attiwell. I can tell you that man works himself to. Well, sorry is worked to the bone, I would say.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Works very hard. Any news in London?

[A]

Any news in London? What's happening in London? God. You know when someone's like, so what have you been up to? And you're like, God, please let me think of something decent.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Have I, have I done anything decent this week? Let me see if I put anything in my week.

[B]

My friend, one of my, one of my mates actually, like, was kind of irritated. She said, you want to stop asking me if I have any news? If I have news, I'll tell you. I was like, I'm so nice.

[A]

News. No one has news.

[B]

That's the thing making me feel really boring. Stop asking. I was like, I'm sorry.

[A]

There's two things I've realized in later life. No one has news. And like, you know when you're like, you've been off grid or something for a while, you're like, jesus, what's. What's been going on? And everyone's like, nothing. And also, no one sees each other.

[B]

So, like, no one sees each other.

[A]

Yeah. I always used to think, oh my God, I'm a terrible friend. I never see anyone. My friendship groups really suffer and they're like, no. So hang on, we don't see each other either. That's why we've organized this holiday once every three years so we actually get to see each other.

[B]

Sometimes I meet people, like, I cross paths with women or men. I'm like, we. We could be really good friends in another world if we were. If we could see each other. You Know. Yeah, but that's not gonna happen.

[A]

It. There does come a point where you can't accept many more like you are. Your jumper is a woolen jumper and

[B]

you're in la and I'm in a light now. The reason I'm wearing a mohair jumper in the Hollywood Hills is because it's the only clean thing I have left. Today's the last day of the trip. I have my show tonight and I fly home after the show. And this is the only clean thing. I bought it the other day. I might have to take it off, though. I might have to go topless, folk. It's very hot.

[A]

Did you. Did you buy it at A Nightmare on Elm street shop? For.

[B]

For our listeners who aren't watching, it is. It is a striped, folks, as it's. It's giving Freddy Krueger. Maybe. I'm auditioning for a movie role.

[A]

Huh? Oh, she's in the movies.

[B]

Come here. It was. It was actually. I. I was like. I was mortified. So I'm on this. Have you know that you hear about people going to America and they do meetings? Are they taking meetings? Everyone's taking. So I'm finally on this kind of pointless meeting journey where you just go in and take meetings and nothing happens. Yeah, exactly, right? You go in, they tell you you're fantastic, and then you never hear from them again.

[A]

They tell you fantastic. I'd say when you turn around, they just stick their fingers up at you, like off.

[B]

They're just around in their eyes. They're like, next. And they just, like, send you down in like one of those trash can, one of those shoots. Trash bin shoots. Garbage. I'm so American. And I was sitting there anyway, and I was like, I don't know, it was like six. Not sixth meeting of the week, maybe, something like that. And they're like, so. They were so lovely. And they're like, so. Have you. Have you thought about. Have you ever thought about writing a film? Like a movie? And I was like, I haven't actually, no. And they're like, oh, because we're a movie production company.

[A]

But now that you've mentioned.

[B]

You know what? Actually just coming up in the elevator there, I said to myself, all right, I'm moving. Imagine. I thought they were a TV production company and they're quite big. And they're just looking at me like, have you read any of your emails?

[A]

Anyway, my new excuse is I. I don't. I don't have time to take over America. That's my.

[B]

Yeah, well, I'm telling you folk, I moved there tomorrow. I'm trying and I give it, I'm gonna give it one more week and if it doesn't happen, if it doesn't happen in a two week time space, I'm going home.

[A]

Do you know what, John? This is. I don't give a. Because you're doing the dirty work. I'll be dry. I will literally be dragging behind you. I will hang on to those coattails like my life depends on it. If anything happens over there, don't you worry.

[B]

I'll try and crack the States. You just sit in the comfort of your own home in Battersea while I'm out plugging my wares, dragging my busted suitcase around America. And then you get to do Radio City.

[A]

Thank you very much. I do appreciate that. That's how it should work. Speaking of suitcase. Oh, Vogue.

[B]

Can you believe it?

[A]

Yeah, I can. Cuz I've seen the way you treat your luggage. I've had the same luggage for like, honestly. I bought this antler luggage when I was living in Australia, that's how long ago. And I still own it.

[B]

Yeah, do you, are you, do you'd like to when you get home. Do you, do you? Do you? Because I see the girls on Tick Tock doing it. You hoover your suitcase. Okay, fine.

[A]

I do unpack it as soon as I get back. So I'm not going to deny that. Yeah, I don't hoover it.

[B]

You don't hoover it?

[A]

No, but I like looking at it. I like it to be like not broken and split open.

[B]

Well, I arrived, I, I landed in LA safely, thank God. And I pedaled on down to the cabbage, not cabbage package.

[A]

Is that how you were feeling yesterday? A bowl of cabbage.

[B]

I woke up so we. I had a big one, right? I haven't had a big one in a while. I had a big one. I can't feel bad about it. You just have to move on. I woke up, there was something like on me. Like I could feel like a weight on my legs. It's like, what is that? I was like, have I hooked up with a teeny tiny man who's only up as far as my knees?

[A]

Not again.

[B]

Has he fallen vertically or horizontally across me? What's happening? And I opened my piggy little eyes and there was a giant buzz ball which I have brought to show, evoke like a show and tell like a child in the nature table. Look at the. Of course in America you can drive giant by. By giant puzzle. Look at the size. It's the size of A child Vogue.

[A]

So how many? I need to know the le and I need to know the cost because I saw that in your stories and I was like, that looks amazing.

[B]

So it's. It's okay. Here we are reading the ingredients. I mean, it's fluorescent orange, so I'm assuming. I don't think it's one or five a day necessarily. I don't know why I didn't open it. I, I obviously maybe I bought it in the morning.

[A]

You've got to leave that there now.

[B]

I know. Yeah, I don't. I don't think I can smash a giant buzzball before a show just so I don't waste it.

[A]

You don't know about that now. I don't like waste.

[B]

It's.

[A]

It's a one.

[B]

It's a 1.75 liter of a Tokyo region alcohol.

[A]

15.

[B]

Yeah, I'd say that'll get you going there.

[A]

Sorry. 15, no more. Vodka is 37.5.

[B]

I have a bottle of vodka here beside me as well.

[A]

Hold on.

[B]

Let's see what this is.

[A]

Oh my God. That's full too. Yeah, I know. What's wrong with you?

[B]

I'll leave it for housekeep. I leave. I. I leave. I leave it all for housekeeper and I leave masters saying please take so they know they can take us.

[A]

Yeah, okay. Fair, fair. Did you just keep buying booze until get through you at some point and then he does.

[B]

I don't know what happened. This was on the big. This was the big night out.

[A]

It doesn't look like that big and I know, to be honest with you.

[B]

Yeah, well, there's a bottle of tequila here as well. No, very much. There's still a lot of that.

[A]

Yeah, no, there's half a bottle left.

[B]

Well, there's only me and one other

[A]

person I know and this still.

[B]

And this was the after party.

[A]

Oh. Like, was there really a necessity to buy all of that for the after party?

[B]

No, of course. Of course there wasn't. It's America and I'm in the. I'm in Hollywood, so I don't know. I don't know.

[A]

They do three liter bottles of vodkas. They do like the handles. You know them? No. Yeah, they do handles of vodka.

[B]

Like isn't. There's a handle on each side.

[A]

There's a handle on one side and it's a three liter bottle of vodka. Yeah.

[B]

Wow. Well, anyway, I'm. I. From tomorrow on, I'm on the drive for three weeks because I've. I'm doing a new panel show in In. In the uk. And I'm gonna be on my bestest behaviors. So I look snatched. Healthy, glowing, and cognitively sharp. Yeah, sharp.

[A]

What panels are you doing? You like to tell us.

[B]

I think I am, actually. Yeah. So it's a new panel show. It's called Unacceptable. It's on tlc. I am team captain. Ed Gamble is the host, and Richard Ayoadi is the other. Is the other team captain. And it's about you. Comedians come on every week and they defend an unacceptable opinion. It's actually very funny. I shouldn't say, actually. It's really funny.

[A]

I like that.

[B]

Yes. Yeah. Yes. I have a lot of work to do. A lot of work. A lot of work. M. I'm telling you, everyone's asking for you here.

[A]

I know they are. I had to fly private.

[B]

More music.

[A]

What do we think about the chapel? Roan Drama.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Oh, thank God.

[A]

Let me explain. Yeah, I know. I. Well, it's.

[B]

Did you just say, let me explain? Oh, wow. I have never, ever heard you say that.

[A]

Therapy. Therapy.

[B]

Boundaries.

[A]

Yeah, There will be signs.

[B]

Yeah, there will be signs. Put off all her friends and family to grow. Yeah.

[A]

That happened to me with somebody, by the way.

[B]

What?

[A]

They were doing therapy, and one time they turned around to me, they were like, I've cut most people off and, like, there's a chance that you'll be cut off too, because I'm. I'm going through intense therapy. And I just thought, jesus Christ, this is. Whoa. Yes. Strong.

[B]

And did they.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got the snip. Everybody got the sniff. Everybody.

[B]

Wow. I do think. Listen, I know because I. I know we're not. We're not. We're not therapists just in case. And there was any mix up there, because I remember someone messaged, and she was like, I'm so disappointed. In your opinion on Brooklyn Beckham. You've obviously never been the victim of estrangement or victim of bad parents or something like that. And I said, well, I haven't said we're not. We're not therapists. But I did say. I was like, I do think not to this woman now. I just. I just left her. But I said, I do think this. This trend of cutting everyone off is a little toxic. I do.

[A]

It's. But I always think that if I have arguments or if I'm arguing with more than one person, I'm like, oh, my God, hang on. Am I the common denominator here? Why am I fighting with so many people? Yeah, this must have something to do with me. I don't like being the common denominator, but sometimes you find yourself down there.

[B]

In the words of our great philosopher Taylor Swift, it is me high. I'm the problem. It is me.

[A]

Yeah. But sometimes now when I am the common denominator, I say, right, this is what I'll do. I'll wait till they all apologize and then I won't be.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I'll shut them all out of my life.

[A]

Yeah, Put them off till death.

[B]

Yeah, Silent treatment. Silent treatment them to death until

[A]

someone close to me goes. Recently they were like, I think we just need to have a chat about it. And I was like, I'll take it to the grave before I have a chat about it. I'm not having a chat about it. We're moving on and we're just being fine.

[B]

Yeah, okay, yeah, fair enough.

[A]

Sometimes something, it's either death or move on.

[B]

I remember going to a therapy session before and she was. The therapist was saying, you know, sometimes when you get to the. Sometimes when you get to the root of the problem, she's like, some of my clients decide, oh, okay. I've unearthed this memory of something and actually, I don't want to unpack it any further. I'm happy to leave it there. I don't want. Not everything has to be picked apart and unpacked. You know, sometimes it is sometimes less said soonest mended.

[A]

Yeah, like some people think that, like, spending things. I've had a traumatic childhood and I'm like, what? That's just an Irish childhood? And he's like, no, it seems true. I was like, I had a bloody great time. Anyway, sorry, this has gone a different road.

[B]

We're talking about Chapel round now. I am sweating in this Mohare. I might have to take it off.

[A]

I think that's what your last clean clothing. You can't be smelly getting on the plane. I know.

[B]

I have to go to a meeting after this. God knows what I'm going to the meeting for. I have no idea.

[A]

Are you writing? Are you. Are you going to Pixar to talk about your next movie that you're going to be drawing? Hello. Well, I got a B in ours.

[B]

B plus. Actually, it's B1.

[A]

Get it, girl? God, I once plan a trip like that for myself over to la. Okay. Chapel Roan. Chapel Roan was in a hotel in. Was it Brazil? It was in the Brazil. And so she's sitting in a hotel having her breakfast and there was a football called Georgino Frello.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that's okay.

[A]

Sorry, yeah, I'm sorry if I'm. I'm not saying the name right. Anyway, his wife, who is married, who was. Who has a child with Jude Law and her. So the, the. His wife. And this is why I never do the explaining. Anyway, Georgina, the footballer's wife was having breakfast with her child, who's also Jude Law's child. And so she was sitting there and that.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that.

[A]

That's why there's a big, a big link to the whole thing. Anyway, the footballer posted a story on his Instagram and basically said that his child was. Didn't go up to Chaperone. She's a huge chaperone fan and she was going to see her that night in concerts and the child walked by chaperone's table, looked at her, but didn't say anything, just to check that it was her and then went back to her mother. Then he said that chaperone sent a security guard over and the security guard was shouting at the child and, and made her cry. She's an 11 year old girl and it was an absolute disgrace. And then they skipped the chapel roan concert that night because they were so shook by it. Everyone started calling Chaperone a mean girl and Miss Trunchbull and that she hates children.

[B]

Miss Trun. Oh, out there. Sorry, I was, I was wondering where the Miss Trunchbull thing was going from. Of course, sorry, I forgot the jokey.

[A]

And so she then comes back, Chaperon then comes back and say that didn't happen. That wasn't my personal security, that was hotel security. Then the mother of the child kind of came back and said, well, it was. You sent your security over. It was a security. So there's this little kind of back and forth. Now the Internet has kind of exploded and it's kind of showing times when Chaperone has been. Yeah. Rude and mean. And there was a video circulating of her in an airport with her first, her personal security and somebody was filming her and she goes, points to the guy and sends her security over and the security starts going over to the person filming her. There's two things there. She's in an airport and she's being filmed and she doesn't want to be filmed. The problem with being a massive pop star is that people are going to film you. Paparazzi are going to take pictures of you when you're out and about in public. That's kind of.

[B]

Is this from your eyes? Are you talking about anecdotally from when you released Good Girl, Yes, I was.

[A]

It was a tough time for me. I was very. Yes. Massive Pops are at number one in Ireland. If you didn't remember the streets, Grafton street was a complete no go for me.

[B]

Couldn't go near Piccadilly Circus.

[A]

Absolutely not.

[B]

I was annihilated. As for the Hollywood Hills, like Vogue, I'm telling you, everyone's asking for you here.

[A]

I know they are. I had to fight privacy.

[B]

Going to release more music. This is the most anticipated album since Gaga. I said, listen, she's in studio. That's all I can say. Okay. That's all I can say.

[A]

I've been working on some tunage.

[B]

Don't worry, she's laying tracks. She's laying pipes.

[A]

There's a lot of wrapping. There's.

[B]

There's something in the pipeline. Okay. There's a lot of. There's a lot of grime coming down the line.

[A]

A lot of grime coming down. There you go. Joanne, listen, you could be on the album. It rhymes like that, huh?

[B]

Well, I will. I will be doing the backing. Dancing, I assume.

[A]

Of course you will.

[B]

I don't want all that line. I don't want all those line dancing classes.

[A]

Well, I will be doing my. My jazz. My tap dance at Street Top should. Yes. What?

[B]

We can't waste those childhoods. Sorry, go on.

[A]

So anyway, the Internet is like kind of open arms, saying that she's a bit of a dick and that she's kind of can be quite rude to fans and stuff like that. But there seems to be this massive pylon now for chapel roan over an incident that we don't actually know the full story to. And maybe she was just having a day where she was like, you know what? Off. Let me just have my breakfast.

[B]

I don't think the Internet has ever waited to get the full story on anything. They're like, whoa, whoa, the Internet, like, where's the nuance here?

[A]

She's a bloody child's killer at this point. People like, she's a murderer.

[B]

What's your one's name? What's your one's name?

[A]

Lucy Lapdy. No. Jesus. Similar. Similar.

[B]

The Lucy Lepy documentary. I don't know if we spoke about this, but did we speak about it? Sorry, let's stay on Chapel. Sorry. Let's stay in chapel. Let's stay in chapel.

[A]

I was just turning into me with the way you're changing conversations. I love when this happens because it makes me feel more. More at ease and normal.

[B]

I need. I need a Ritalin. Chop around. Look, the truth of is, she does have a bit of a rep for being.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Rashy. But, like, in the same breath, I can't imagine how annoying it must be. And like. Like, it must be really annoying. Even though you're making music, you're doing what you want to do, but if you. If you have a short fuse, it. I don't. And you're being, like, eyeballed at all times. Yeah, I imagine it's annoying. And she obviously just doesn't have the sense or the patience to keep her together and she. Or the personality for it. And she obviously loses the rag every now and again. But I did see the video where she came back and said that was nothing to do with me. And she did seem quite like I believed her.

[A]

No, I kind of believed her as well. But the thing about it is she did this thing on the red carpet where the pops were shouting at her and she's like, stop shouting at me. And people kind of applauded her. I mean, when the pop shout at me, I'm like, fucking, thank God they know my name.

[B]

I'm thrilled you're doing your spins and all.

[A]

Yeah, get the back. Get off vogue. Leo DiCaprio is beside you.

[B]

They're like, folks, stop calling us to come out. We. We've other things to do. We can't come out every day on your phone.

[A]

People were kind of applauding her for that. And I just think. And then she was leaving a restaurant and she started recording the past, being like these scumbag paparazzi and it's just like, dude. Like. And then people were like, oh, wait, that's actually a bit mean. Like, you don't need to do that. Like, they are essentially just doing their job. And I think if they're respectful, she's. She can just. I think it's a very touch and go thing. Once you get painted with that brush, it's hard not to be painted with that brush. And the Internet is coming out with loads of different reasons as to why the story would make sense and that actually she's a little bit of a mean girl.

[B]

She's. I think. But, like, she's just probably a bit ratty. She's just a bit of a ratty artist. And I think. And she got fame. It was very quick. Now, I say that because suddenly she was just. She just popped. Yeah, I'm sure it's never quick. There's like 10 years of hard graph there. But she did become super duper famous in, to a. To a level. That as normal people, I don't think we'll ever understand like what that is. Like. Unless of course, I get this picture

[A]

deal later, which I'm really looking forward to.

[B]

Yeah. And then of course, this. Tell them.

[A]

Tell them about Gabby's dollhouse. That I was the fridge. Tell them in the uk.

[B]

Tell them, oh my God, I forgot that you were the fridge.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've already. Joanne, I've already been in A list movies. So just let them know you've been in wash. You've been in wash A list movies. So just let them know. Okay.

[B]

I totally forgot you were the fruit. That's actually, that's a really cool. That's. That's a cool crowd. As seen as the fridge in.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Boobies, Boobies. Whatever it's called.

[A]

The UK version of Gabby's doll has UK version.

[B]

But I would, I would imagine chap around and. Because then when those, when the seed gets planted, people are then probably looking to piss her off. Because now I don't think that, I don't think that child was a plant going to try and trigger into having like a reaction, but they probably look to kind of trigger her a bit so I can get content out of it. I don't know. I mean, listen, if I saw Chapel round, I'd leave her well alone. My, my, my. Leave her alone.

[A]

I kind of leave most famous people alone. Like Eminem doesn't really talk to a lot of people, like when he's out and about, when he's with his family and stuff like that. Justin Bieber, did you see that video of him outside his apartment block? And like, there's girls like, can we have a hug? And he's like, no, no, you're outside my home. You shouldn't be here. This is too much like, don't come outside my home. And he like literally refused to give them a hug. Hang on a second. Did you see the picture of Justin Bieber and Usher having a little punch up at Beyonce and Jay Z's Oscar party?

[B]

What? Yeah. No.

[A]

And TMZ have decided that they're gonna do a massive deep dive and try and find out what it was. I think it's got to do with the Diddy stuff. Like, this is my own opinion, there's no basis to it. But, but wasn't there all that stuff going around about Justin Bieber and like Usher was hanging out with Justin Bieber when He was a 13 year old, like bringing him to the Diddy parties and all that kind of jazz? And I think that There's.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

No love lost there.

[B]

I'm gonna. Folk. That's your homework for next week. You need to find out. Well, just listen to the TMZ podcast, I guess.

[A]

Oh, I'll wait till tmz. But tmz, if they do a deep dive, they'll. I think they'll find it out. I wouldn't want TMZ trying to find out my business. They would.

[B]

Did you see his videos resurfacing of getting arrested for that dui?

[A]

No, that's Justin Timberlake.

[B]

Who are you talking about?

[A]

Justin Bieber. Are you sure you haven't started that buzz?

[B]

I was just gonna say only that it's still in shot. I know I can defend myself.

[A]

Sorry, are you talking about Justin Timberlake? The greatest video that we've seen on the Internet. That poor fucker who like two years ago was like, thank God they didn't release any of the footage. Now in 2026, they're releasing all the footage from.

[B]

Why did they do that? Why did they. Why did they do that? Did you see. Did you see the hot. Did you see the hot felon was interviewed. Is it Paul Brunson's podcast? Paul Bronson.

[A]

Yes, Paul Brunson.

[B]

Brunson. And he was saying that, like when the whole thing popped off and he was in prison, that people. You only get three visits a week and people will come up and visit him. Which means he would walk up to the section where you visit and he'd be like, I don't. To the guards, he's like, I don't know that person. And they're like, well, tough. You have to take the visit. So he takes us and he's saying to them, please don't come back. You're stopping my family coming in to see me. And they just kept coming back. I assume it was women.

[A]

If we'd have known, we would have signed ourselves up.

[B]

We walked in holding hands, wearing matching dungarees like psychopaths. Can I not enjoy the company of another woman without wanting to go down on her? No. So, no, obviously not, folks. That's how I roll.

[A]

Sorry. Can we go back to Justin Timberlake? I don't know if anyone has seen. Has seen the video. He. He was arrested for a DUI and was it in 2024? And now the clip has come out of when they arrested him. Like the body cam footage. And he had said that he had only had one drink. That man had 14, 000. He had 12 of those. He had 12 of those puzzles. He was absolutely deranged.

[B]

Was he? He was buzzballed out of it. I did see his eyes. They're all big. They're all. They're all big weed smokers over here. He's probably smoking weed as well. Was he with the eyes glazed? Like little donuts?

[A]

I just thought he looked absolutely, completely out of it. And he was like. They were like, so what you do? And he's like, I'm on a world tour.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's hard to explain. Well, actually, it's not hard to explain at all, actually. You could just say, I sing and dance. And he was like, I'm Justin Timberlake. My name is Justin Timberlake. I'm like, oh, God. And then in the. In the. In the police department, what you call it? The police office. I was gonna call.

[B]

Yeah, the police shop. The shop of the policeman in it.

[A]

Yeah. He was like, oh, he put my. Me down as white. And then he just started laughing and he's like, only kidding. It's like, okay. Oh, God.

[B]

Just. Oh, God.

[A]

I can't. Oh, God.

[B]

We're trying to make a racial joke. It's not the time.

[A]

It's not the time.

[B]

But did you see when. When Britney was arrested recently for again, a similar vibe? She put down celebrity as her job, which I thought was kind of made me a bit sad because it's like, you're a singer, you're a dancer, you're. You're. You're really talented. You're not just a celebrity. I feel like she's losing her confidence, I think.

[A]

I think it's more like, you know, like you put down entertainer.

[B]

Entertainer, yeah.

[A]

Performer, yeah.

[B]

Warmer.

[A]

Yeah. I say entertainer.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

God knows if I entertain anyone, but it's down.

[B]

Would you not say TV presenter?

[A]

I think it kind of does. It kind of. Yeah, kind of.

[B]

You hear like, author. They're like, authorization. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Used to be a model, but Irish model.

[B]

The link to your IMDb, they're like, literally next. But I find it really strange over here. There's a. There's a lot of drink driving in the States. I've noticed.

[A]

I wouldn't even have. And now I know I'm a bit of a wimp when it comes to breaking the rules. I am. But I wouldn't even have, like. I wouldn't even have half a drink. I'd be too scared.

[B]

Well, I think we're in Ireland in the uk. Well, Ireland in particular, because I think in America you can't even have phone. And Ireland have, like, random traffic stops where they will. They will be. They'll test you for drinking drugs. Whereas I don't think in the States they have them. I could be wrong. I think someone said that to me at some point. They're like, they don't do random testing. Although they must do, because how did Justin get stuff?

[A]

Well, I think because he was probably driving backwards, reversing, with no and no lights on.

[B]

They seem to be very laissez faire over here on the old drink drive. And I mean, I don't know. A celebrity without a DUI at this stage. I might have to get one myself.

[A]

I've been so much. Imagine what your mom would say. I couldn't take. I couldn't bear that, Neil. Oh my God. I wouldn't know. I wouldn't just know. Thanks.

[B]

I just, I, I pray for both of us. Vogue for however long we are in this industry or. But it wouldn't matter if me and you both did no work from tomorrow on. If we, we just disappeared out of all public life. If we ever got arrested at any stage, it would end up, I think they, they would end up because, you know, sometimes there's articles about people who did like one TV show in the 40s, but if they do something, if they do something embarrassing or illegal, it's always a little story, so.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

And my, I just. Listen, I suppose what I'm saying is bring that ring light wherever you go because you don't know at some stage in your life there might be a mug shot and you want to look good because it's gonna, it's gonna be in the papers. It's particularly yours. Can you imagine the size? The Daily Mail mug shot photo.

[A]

Ivy too. Yeah. God damn it. No, I wouldn't know. I just, I, I, I, I don't want to get arrested ever. I don't like the look of the cells. They look. I don't want to be cold.

[B]

Very minimalist.

[A]

I don't want to sit there like he had to. Justin Timberlake was in that cell overnight. Now he only got a 500 fine and 40 hours of community service, which I felt like wasn't a lot.

[B]

40 hours, that's it. How's he gonna fit that in on the world tour?

[A]

Well, like you could get. Remember Naomi Campbell was doing that, Picking up rubbish or something.

[B]

Yeah, in a first in a floor, floor length Versace gown. It was quite the statement. Well, listen, Justin, hope you're well, Hope you're okay.

[A]

Yeah, it's fine now. It was two years ago. He's fine.

[B]

Justin's having a hard time did the wife leave him yet? I think she did.

[A]

No, I don't think she did.

[B]

I think she left him.

[A]

Jesus. We have terrible way of misinformation. Oh, there's my.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

There you go. No, she didn't leave him. Jessica Beale did not leave him. Google it there. Well, she should. Yeah, well, she should reconsider.

[B]

She should leave him.

[A]

Jessica, have you seen the video? Different show. Joanne, I want to ask you a few things, and particularly Wu Tang Clan. Bo Shame. Could you tell me about that? Because I love the Wu Tang Clan. I'm a big fan.

[B]

Oh, is that video out there?

[A]

No, you put it in the group. You put random sentences in the group.

[B]

I did. I went. So I'm doing podcasts while I'm out here, and I did. Alana Glazer. Do you know Alana Glazer? Gypsy Rose Blanchard is gay. Have you seen this? Speaking of my paparazzi shots, when I say she's going out with a woman, there there's. And when I say the. You know the way, like, sometimes you don't know. You can't tell who's called who and where and what on who.

[A]

Do you know?

[B]

Yeah, we're talking about calling paparazzi shots. Actually, this might. They are the worst. They are the most obviously staged paparazzi videos I've ever seen. They are. It's so I'm like, ah, Gypsy Rose.

[A]

Well, of course Gypsy. Come on.

[B]

These are a deep level of Scarlet. Like, a really deep level of scarlet. If she was in a film, she would be, like. Even as an ext in the background, she would be incredibly bad at her job. It's so obvious.

[A]

I just. Yeah, but I think they're always obvious. It's like people, like, you know, when they're getting out of the pool and, like, they're stretching forward or like, they're just on their permanent tippy toes like a Barbie doll. Yeah. Like I told you, I know somebody who used to basically go away and set up, like, four shoots a day in all different bikinis and go down, like, do the shoots for paparazzi and then just go home and that would be it. And that would, like, that she would do that, and she'd pay for her holiday.

[B]

That's a. I mean, like, it's not a bad idea. You know what I mean?

[A]

I know, I know. So go and tell me about the Wu Tang.

[B]

Alana Glazer.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Star and writer of Broad City.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

She. I did her. She has a new podcast coming out, and I was a guest on it.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

She also has a show coming up in Vicar street, which. And I. I would highly recommend anyone around.

[A]

Oh, that's quite cool.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

She's.

[B]

She's about to go on tour, and I would highly recommend going to her show because she is hilarious. Massive. She's so smart, and she is so sound.

[A]

We were like, are you a lesbian?

[B]

Are we friends now?

[A]

Gypsy Rose over there,

[B]

you're gonna come back holding hands. Can I not enjoy. Don't be jealous, folks. Don't be jealous.

[A]

Yeah, I am jealous, because. Okay, fine. You're just going on about her.

[B]

Can I not admire. Can I not enjoy the company of another woman without wanting to go down on her? No. So. Nope. Obviously not, folks. That's how I roll. I think I'd be very happy. I'd be very happy. Member of the lesbian community if I could just find the right conversion therapy. To be honest.

[A]

I love to be a lesbian. Wouldn't it be great?

[B]

Well, I've spoken to lesbians about this to. To a great extent, and they're like. Because I was like, oh, you know, blah, blah, blah with men. And they're like, joanne, it's just as complicated over here. It's not like you're just running around with your best mate all day. Like, it's just as. There are still, you know, massive issues in relationships as well. I was like, yeah, imagine.

[A]

Imagine. Okay, we'll just. We'll go back to the commune. I want to be in, like, an estate with all my friends, and we all live in our own houses, but we're in the estate and, like, we pop over to each other's houses whenever we feel like it.

[B]

Yeah. Do you remember. Do you remember the woman who was running the orgasm retreats?

[A]

No. And you want that thing that we went to? It was. Well, we tried. Did that thing, but we had to, like, we were doing a pilot for a TV show, and they were like, do it. And we were like, no.

[B]

Well, that was different. What they. Yeah, that was the sex we really

[A]

want to show, but no.

[B]

Yes. We draw the line. Yeah. Pulling ourselves off on camera. Yeah, thanks. Thanks a million. We're gonna. We're gonna cut the. We're gonna cut there. Okay.

[A]

If it. If it's for Netflix, if you can promise Netflix, we'll do it.

[B]

Amazon prime, maybe.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Not Channel 4. That was a TV show we filmed, which is still up on the. I think it's still up to see if it's up on the player. We should probably give it a plug while we. And we were at. We were. That was kind of a wellness retreat, wasn't it? Was kind of like get to know your body kind of vibes and it was. She shut off the lights and it was very much start, you know, feel yourself and feel, you know, enjoy your pleasure. Your pleasure. I don't know. Pleasures. Anyway, and. And we did, but only to a certain degree.

[A]

So anyway, teach other and everything we did. He spanked me.

[B]

I know. I think he's finked me.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

I still have your spine paddle. Called daddy's dirty girl or whatever that I've given up.

[A]

You don't. You can keep it. Stop. Stop taunting me with this.

[B]

It needs to be. It needs to be revarnished. At this stage, it's gotten quite the use.

[A]

If we ever fall out, I'm gonna. I'm gonna call the police and I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say I have a robbery, actually. Yeah, this. This girl has stolen from me and I want you to get a b.

[B]

The. Well, we've gone completely off topic now. But the orgasm retreats. This one was one of these orgasm retreats where you would go into the woods and somewhere in Minnesota or something and it was just. It was an all female commune, if memory serves me correctly. And then they would. Men would come in and like wank them off in the mornings.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

Yeah, in a circle.

[A]

Did she use them on.

[B]

I don't know. I can't remember that detail. But I do think then she was added as being a bit of a cult. Anyway, Alana Glazer, Right.

[A]

Anyway. Alana Glazer. Yes.

[B]

Yeah, Alana Glazer. I want. I bought this really cool, I think Wu Tang, Clang, Varsity top in one of these kind of second hand, like.

[A]

Well, as you know how much I love them and I'm a true fan. I know that you bought that for me and you've brought it back from la, so I appreciate it.

[B]

But you know that Lottie, my publicist, does the PR for the Wu Tang. Did you know that?

[A]

Excuse me.

[B]

Yeah, I know. Do you know him?

[A]

Like, they're all in my. Spotify, We Talked is like one of my favorite rap groups in the whole world.

[B]

Well, listen, I've got. I've got a way in. Do you want to meet them?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, you can't be too embarrassing.

[A]

Oh, she's gone so LA now.

[B]

Yeah, I was like vogue. I can't have you fan girling over the guys, okay? It's embarrassing.

[A]

Name one of them.

[B]

Woo, Tang and Clang.

[A]

So go on, you Got a lovely Wu tag top. They just played London. I was in Dublin. I was at the Paddy's Day parade.

[B]

I'm actually off to meet Woo now.

[A]

Oh, what a cool guy.

[B]

And then Clang's coming in later. So I'm with Alana Glazer. I'm wearing a tank Clang top. I bought it second hand. So me and, me and Alana were doing all the tick tocks and all this and I realized, oh my God. So we're like hugging and we're doing kind of like all this. Like we're really close. And I, I noticed, I was like, whoa. I was like, jesus, Atlanta. I said, either me or Alana Glazer have some serious hygiene issues there. Do you know, like I have to say it. And I was like, Alana, a very strong odor. I said, I've. No, I'm not. No shade if it's you, but I'm terrified it's me. So only the two of us spent about 15 minutes smelling each other's armpits to see who it was.

[A]

It was.

[B]

Well, it was obviously Woo or whoever wore the top before me because I'm assuming it came from the lads. I assume they thrifted it themselves. I absolutely wreaked. It was very embarrassing. And then I was like, it's a second hand. She's like, no, no, it's fine. I don't wear deodorant either. I was like, no, no, Alana, I, I do wear deodorant. This is a once off, okay? This is a once off because I'm such a big Wu Tang client fan that when I saw the top I

[A]

had to get it.

[B]

I was excited. I didn't have time to check the armpits. I assumed because it was a high end thrift shop that that would have been looked after before. Like, what, are you gonna sell me dirty knickers as well? Come on.

[A]

Sorry, is that where you go knicker shopping?

[B]

Charity shop up your game?

[A]

The only thing I would say is, you know, like a football top. Sometimes when someone sweats in in material like that, it sticks. So actually as much of a fan as I am, you can keep the top.

[B]

Yeah, you know, I know. I know exactly what you mean. Some, some material just doesn't you. It's very hard. Like my Adidas tracksuit that I wear for the pedophile show. When I say when I have a couple of them, but when this tour ends, they will be burnt like they will be put on a bonfire.

[A]

I have a brand new one that you can have.

[B]

Yeah, No, I have. I do have a load of them.

[A]

It feels a bit strange for me to wear that. I just. I feel like I'm literally dressing.

[B]

I even. Even. I think it's strange seeing you in it.

[A]

I can't wear this. I wore the. I just wore the top. I was like, I'll get away with the top. And then I was like, yeah. No, I feel like everyone's saying, look at her. Copycat.

[B]

Yeah. It's like, oh, book an Apollo, why don't you, huh?

[A]

It's like that time you wore my jumpsuit. And then it was. That was it. Then Joanne owns jumpsuits. And I was like, it's my jumpsuit.

[B]

That was the Prosecco Express jumpsuit.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

I did steal that, Nick. I did steal a lot. I'm off to Universal. I'm off to have exciting. I'm off to have lunch with Warner Brothers.

[A]

Pop into Netflix on the way home as well.

[B]

I'll be like, I assume it's going to be two brothers.

[A]

Well, I'll tell the listeners what you put in the group. Right. Brunch, girlfriend, press up. Remind me. I want to do an intentional vid about pinching spinning seats in the bar. Punch the monkey, getting a beard. Lana Glazer, Baby Child, Ring Bo Shame, Wu Tang Clan, the housemaid and Hilary Duff. You've had an extremely busy week.

[B]

I met all of them.

[A]

This is the stuff we wake up to that Joanne has thought to herself, brilliant. Send it to the group.

[B]

Brilliant. I don't know. I watched the housemaid on the plane.

[A]

Was it brilliant?

[B]

It's. It's much better than I thought it was going to be. So I. I bought. I thought I was the only person in the world that didn't like the housemaid. I bought the book and I was like, what is it? All this banging on about the housemaid. I. And I didn't finish it. Which. Whatever, you know, life is short. You know what I mean? If you don't want to finish a book, don't finish a book.

[A]

I don't think. If you're not enjoying a book, don't put the work in. You don't have to, and. Exactly. You'll be dead soon. You'll be dead. Don't waste time reading.

[B]

In the words of Kim Cattrall, I don't want to waste a second of my life doing anything I don't enjoy.

[A]

Yeah, me too.

[B]

There's been. There's been a lot of sex in the city chat over here. One of my favorite lines From Sex and City. I think it's one of the most iconic lines in TV history. When Samantha's phone rings and a man is on the other end. He's like, I'm leaving my wife. And she's like, who is this? She didn't know. She was like. She was like, we're barely hooking up. Do you know what I mean?

[A]

Please don't. Yeah.

[B]

Please don't.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then his wife comes on the phone. She's like, samantha. She's like, oh, my God. Anyway, so I watched the film and it's. It is actually really good now. It's a bit.

[A]

Is it Florence Pugh? Why do I think it's Florence Pugh?

[B]

No, it's Amanda Seafrild and Sydney Sweeney. Sydney Sweeney, Yeah. And the other. I think he's a Hemsworth. One of those hot big lads.

[A]

Chris. Probably not that. Not the. The. The medium Hemsworth. The best one is.

[B]

I don't know. He's one of those. One of those are. The arms are arming. They are absolutely. Oh, my God. But, like, the storyline is a little preposterous, but it was actually. I did actually quite enjoy it and I thought Amanda Seafield was brilliant in it. And I also thought. The other one. I can't. Why can't I remember her name? Sydney Sweeney was also brilliant in it, but it was like. She has an affair. Sorry. Spoilers. Spoilers.

[A]

Well, I might watch this on the plane. So am I meant to not listen to this bit either? I'm going on, actually. I don't care. I'd googled the end anyway, so it doesn't matter. I feel like my thoughts are. It's a Hand that Rocks a cradle kind of movie. Is it or.

[B]

No, there's. It's a. It's a little kind of gaslighty. Kind of. It's. It's not really a horror film in.

[A]

In any.

[B]

By any stretch, but it's easily watchable. Pleasant, as my mother would say, although there is abuse in it. So I shouldn't really say it was pleasant, but I enjoyed it while I sat and ate a whole tube of sea salt. Not sea salted. What's that? Pringles? What's.

[A]

What's the.

[B]

They didn't have a sour cream.

[A]

Oh, my God. Not ready. Salted.

[B]

Whole thing already salted.

[A]

A point. It's not a flavor.

[B]

What a waste. That is A waste of nothing. Speaking of books, I have another book for our book club that never happens and never comes to fruition.

[A]

Well, I do.

[B]

How's Hamlet going well?

[A]

No, because I'm actually doing Marion Keys Last Chance Saloon. Because I did get out of reading and I always think Marion gets me back into it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I'm doing this and then I have Kathy Burke's book that I'm taking away with me.

[B]

I told you. I. I get. I gave you advice on the Kathy Burke book.

[A]

Joanne. I have. It's not even. Not an ounce of attention span. There is no way I would be. I can't. If something's in my ears, I just start. I can't. I've really bad attention span for that. Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I have to read.

[B]

If I try and listen to anything, like, kind of academic. Academic. I mean, who. What am I? I just mean, like, with any sort of, like kind of pop psychology stuff, I zoom out completely. But I can listen to stories in my ears.

[A]

I used to buy books about the Russian Revolution and stuff like that, thinking, do you know what? Now I'm into reading. This should be the kind of job

[B]

that I'll read Anna Karen. No, no, no, no. I'm gonna. I'm gonna jump from a Colleen Hoover to a James Joyce. Yeah.

[A]

I genuinely. I was like, Colleen Hoover. And I was going into the Troubles in Northern Ireland. I was like, I need to know more about my country. And then I was like, yeah, just. They're so different. So different.

[B]

I have to say, I. The same. I started a History of Ireland podcast. And you know what? I actually really enjoyed. And I will go back to it. I will go back to us. I will go back to it. I will go back to it.

[A]

Okay. Woo. Will we start calling you Woo now? Is that your new name?

[B]

Who are they anyway? Whatever.

[A]

The colors aren't even that nice. I don't know why you bought it. It's like black and yellow.

[B]

Because I am a huge Wu Tangling fan.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Anyway, I've just. I finished Tanya Sweeney's book. Esther is now following you. I really enjoyed it. Really?

[A]

Oh, I love her. She's a great writer.

[B]

She is a great writer. And I think that's going to be turned into a film. That's my. That's my personal, personal opinion. But anyway, this. I'm dying to read it. So. Jeanette McCurdy. Remember? Did you end up reading I'm Glad My mom Died in the end?

[A]

I absolutely adored it. If you got a new book, I've got it yet.

[B]

Half his age. So I think it's. Well, it's a fiction, but I think it's actually based on the fact that she. I Think she was hooking up with one of her college professors or something when she was quite young. So I'm gonna start that when this panel show finishes. I have to work myself for the panel show, and then I'm gonna. And then I'm gonna start this. Very excited. Huge Jeanette McCurdy fan.

[A]

No, but if you haven't read I'm Glad My Mom Died, you need to. I remember Theodore found that book and he was like, why? Why is it called this? Why would she say that? And I was like, oh, what? Yeah, because he can read, obviously. So he was like, I'm glad my mom died. Why does it say that? Why did she say that? Because he loves. Is it icarly that he watched. So he knows her from Salmon Cash.

[B]

This is why I always say the thicker the child, the better.

[A]

Good. I know, I know. He's very.

[B]

Questions asked.

[A]

Anyway, that's it. Joanne for the main episode. Everyone, thank you so much for listening. I hope it's not too difficult to follow. We apologize. Joanne has not taken her meds and she usually controls what I say. She usually keeps me on the straight narrow. So now it's just been, I've eaten them anyway.

[B]

Listen, I better go back to America. Trying to crack it.

[A]

Enjoy Pixar, right? Put in a good word for me.

[B]

I'm off to Universal. I'm off to Exciting. I'm off to have lunch with Warner Brothers.

[A]

Pop into Netflix on the way home as well.

[B]

I'll be like, I assume it's gonna be two brothers. No more than. You're right. Where are the lads? Yeah, the two bunnies.

[A]

She's been into Disney too. She was looking for Walt.

[B]

Yeah, Walt. No, in fairness, now, I do know Walt is frozen.

[A]

Yes, everyone knows.

[B]

Yeah, everyone knows that.

[A]

Is that really true or is that. Is that a myth? Is that true?

[B]

I think that is. I've decided to think it's true.

[A]

Let's ask Chat GBT quickly because we don't leave anyone hanging.

[B]

I think that's a Google question.

[A]

No, everybody knows that. No, I do. You know what, Joanne? I cycle everywhere. I need to start doing a bit of damage. A bit of damage somewhere. Is Walt Disney frozen?

[B]

You should be entitled to burn your clothes if that's the case. Or at least if you cycle everywhere, you could. You could spend a grand on Sheen. That's what you could do.

[A]

No, he is. Walt Disney is not frozen. This is a long standing myth. When he died in 1966, he was cremated and his ashes were interred at Forest Lawn Memorial Park.

[B]

Ah, well, if he's not. If he's not frozen, he better be at this meeting trying to woo me.

[A]

I genuinely hunt. I would have said. I would have put money on that, him being frozen. I don't know. Should we tell the listeners that it feels a bit disappointing now that I know that. Should we just not tell.

[B]

We should put a spoiler alert if anyone's very committed to the story that Walt Disney is frozen.

[A]

Yeah, spoiler alert. We're about to tell you if Walt Disney is frozen or not. So if you just.

[B]

Is anyone frozen? Folk Google out there, is anyone frozen?

[A]

Listen, I'm not doing that much cycling, but I'll do this last one. Is anyone frozen after death? Or I wonder if anyone's been shot into space. James Bedford, 1967. Still preserved today. Whoever that man is, I'm sorry if I don't know who he is. Do you know who he is?

[B]

Nope. He probably just loaded.

[A]

American psychology professor. There you go. Wow. I just can't imagine. Yeah, well, no, there's other people that are frozen, obviously. I just don't think that we're going to be able to be brought back. I've decided now that I'm moving on to the next life.

[B]

Well, I certainly don't want to be defrosted. I mean, in what. What state are you going to come back in? Do you know what I mean?

[A]

Not great.

[B]

You come back, you've. You're defrosted back to life. The year is 2042. No, that's only a 20th time. The year is like 35, 30, 63. There's no oil, there's no water. It's apocalyptic. It's all very Mad. Mad Max. All your friends are dead. You've no money, you've no job. What's the point?

[A]

So that's it. We've decided yet? We don't want to be frozen. Thank you, but no thank you.

[B]

No, I want to be. I want to die and be left alone and then cremated and put in a bespoke Prosecco. Or not Prosecco. Bespoke Prozac tube. Just like Carrie Fisher.

[A]

I don't know if that's true either, but everyone, thank you so much for listening.

[B]

That is true. That is this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it for this week. Thanks for listening. Make sure to check out our YouTube channel and you'll get to see my lovely mohair top and my change into my unarmed pink T shirt and my sunglasses that make me look like I have river blindness.

[A]

Well, I've got long hair. So you can see that. Jesus.

[B]

Spoiler alert. We'll talk to you later. Bye.

[A]

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