My Therapist Ghosted Me
Episode: Getting Arrested, Chappell Roan Drama & Mushrooms
Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Release Date: March 27, 2026
Episode Overview
This episode finds Joanne broadcasting from LA’s Hollywood Hills and Vogue checking in from London. They navigate a whirlwind of hilarious stories and candid chats, tackling topics including being “over-therapized,” celebrity culture, wild nights in Los Angeles, viral pop star drama, and the pitfalls of becoming tabloid fodder. The duo also touches on extreme fan behavior, their own friendship dynamics, and ends up debunking a popular Walt Disney myth.
Major Discussion Points & Insights
1. Joanne's LA Adventures & Celebrity Encounters
- Joanne is in Los Angeles, taking meetings with entertainment execs and having near-encounters with stars like Whoopi Goldberg, Sting, and Kevin Hart.
- Joanne: “I’m finally on this kind of pointless meeting journey where you just go in and take meetings and nothing happens.” [08:05]
- Humorous recounting of LA clichés—pointless industry meetings, Hollywood workwear, and trying to “crack America.”
- Joanne jokes that Vogue can just ride her coattails when she “makes it” in the States. [09:13]
2. "Over-Therapized" Society and Personal Reflections
- Discussion about whether too much therapy is a thing, referencing celebrities (like Dave Grohl and Prince Harry) and public displays of “therapy speak.”
- Vogue: “Sometimes you can start thinking things you wouldn’t have focused on had you not been going to too much therapy.” [02:16]
- On “Echo Chambers” in therapy and the Irish tendency to sidestep over-examination.
3. Mushrooms, Messy Nights & Podcast Mishaps
- Joanne reveals she cancelled the previous day's recording after accidentally eating “nine kilos of mushrooms” (psilocybin, not the supermarket kind).
- She sent accidental video notes to her US manager while “tripping balls for 12 hours.” [04:56]
4. Luggage Talk & LA Living
- The girls riff on their approaches to luggage—Vogue is tidy and has 10-year-old luggage; Joanne is chaotic and only had one clean (Freddy Krueger-esque) jumper left for LA.
- Joanne buys copious amounts of alcohol in the US ("giant buzz balls” and bottles of vodka/tequila) and leaves it all for housekeeping. [12:24]
5. New TV Projects
- Joanne is announced as team captain on TLC’s new UK panel show “Unacceptable” with Ed Gamble and Richard Ayoade.
- The show involves comedians defending unpopular opinions. [13:42]
6. Chappell Roan Drama & Internet Pile-Ons
- Recap of the viral Chappell Roan incident in Brazil where the pop star was accused of sending security to berate an 11-year-old fan.
- Vogue and Joanne stress the lack of nuance online, criticizing snap judgments and celeb pile-ons.
- Joanne: “The internet has never waited to get the full story on anything… where’s the nuance?” [21:59]
- They empathize with pop stars dealing with persistent fan and paparazzi attention but also note Roan’s reputation for being "ratty" with the public.
- The conversation touches on the double standard for celebrity behavior and the impossible expectations for public figures to be endlessly patient.
7. Therapy & The “Cut Off” Phenomenon
- The hosts discuss the current self-help trend of blanketly cutting off toxic people, sometimes to excess.
- Personal anecdotes about friends who, “going through intense therapy,” have threatened to cut them off for boundaries’ sake.
- Vogue: “If I’m arguing with more than one person, I’m like, hang on, am I the common denominator here?” [15:42]
- Refer to Taylor Swift’s lyric: “It’s me, hi, I’m the problem, it’s me.” [15:58]
- Questioning whether all family and friendship traumas must be “unpacked.”
8. Paparazzi, Viral Clips, and Celebrity Privacy
- Discussion of the video circulating of Chappell Roan at the airport, the ethics of filming celebrities, and comparisons to Justin Bieber—who refused fan requests outside his home.
- Joanne and Vogue riff on the absurdity and pressure of constant public scrutiny as a celeb. [22:47]
- Note touchy relationships between stars and paps: “I don’t think the internet has ever waited to get the full story on anything.” [21:59]
9. Justin Timberlake DUI & Celebrity Mugshots
- The resurfacing of Justin Timberlake’s 2024 DUI arrest dashboard footage, and how quickly embarrassing moments can define a celebrity’s public narrative.
- Vogue: “He had said he’d only had one drink. That man had 14,000. He had 12 of those buzz balls. He was absolutely deranged.” [28:48]
- The pair joke about the importance of looking good for your future mugshot, musing on the media’s hunger for scandal.
- Joanne: “Bring that ring light wherever you go… you never know when you’ll need it for your mugshot.” [32:32]
10. Book, TV, and Podcast Recommendations
- Joanne reviews “The Housemaid” film (mixed feelings but watched all of it on a plane) [43:47]
- Mentions Jeanette McCurdy’s “I’m Glad My Mom Died” as a must-read, and teases her new fiction “Half His Age.” [48:37]
- Vogue is hooked on Marian Keyes’ “Last Chance Saloon” and plans to read Kathy Burke’s new book. [46:30]
- Both joke about starting a book club that “never happens.”
11. Celebrity Culture & LA Life Banter
- Joanne rubs elbows with Alana Glazer (Broad City), wears a Wu-Tang Clan thrifted top, and shares cringe tales about finding out the thrift top stank (“Only the two of us spent about fifteen minutes smelling each other’s armpits…” [41:11])
- Discussion on staged paparazzi shots, with both hosts recalling stories from their fame-adjacent circles.
- Joke about joining the lesbian community: “Can I not enjoy the company of another woman without wanting to go down on her? No. So... no, obviously not, Vogue. That’s how I roll.” [36:13]
12. Final Segment: Urban Legends & Freezing Yourself
- The Walt Disney frozen myth is debunked: he was cremated, not cryogenically preserved. [50:52]
- Vogue: “Should we tell the listeners? It feels a bit disappointing now that I know that.” [51:24]
- Brief discussion on cryogenics and the first man preserved for science (James Bedford – “Whoever that man is…”). [51:37]
- Both firmly decide not to be frozen after death: “Thank you, but no thank you.” [52:32]
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- Joanne: “If I don’t get agreed with [in therapy], I’m like, well, I won’t see you next week. How about that?” [02:44]
- Joanne: “I ate nine kilos of mushrooms…tripping balls for about 12 hours.” [04:56]
- Vogue (on celebrity feuds): “I think it’s got to do with the Diddy stuff. Like, this is my own opinion, there’s no basis to it.” [26:49]
- Joanne (on mugshots): “Bring that ring light wherever you go because… you want to look good.” [32:32]
- Vogue: “Sometimes less said, soonest mended.” [17:06]
- Joanne: “I’m a huge Wu-Tang Clan fan… That’s why I bought the top.” [41:33]
- Vogue: “I love to be a lesbian. Wouldn’t it be great?” [36:28]
- Joanne: “The internet… she’s a bloody child’s killer at this point, people. Like, she’s a murderer.” [22:07]
Key Timestamps
- 00:12 – Joanne checks in from Hollywood, US celeb chat
- 04:56 – Joanne’s mushroom misadventure
- 09:45 – Joanne’s battered suitcase saga; arrival in LA
- 13:42 – New TV panel show “Unacceptable” revealed
- 14:24–24:54 – Chappell Roan drama deep-dive, internet outrage, celebrity privacy
- 28:48–32:49 – Justin Timberlake DUI, mugshot culture
- 40:01–42:18 – Wu-Tang Clan thrift store odor incident
- 46:30–49:18 – Book chat: “Last Chance Saloon,” “The Housemaid,” Jeanette McCurdy book
- 50:52 – Walt Disney frozen myth investigated and debunked
Episode Tone & Dynamics
A whirlwind of playful rivalry, cheerful irreverence, celebrity anecdotes, and Irish wit. Joanne and Vogue's banter is hilariously honest, jumping between pop culture drama, personal confessions, and social commentary, always with a self-aware, tongue-in-cheek approach. The show remains consistently lighthearted, even when handling “serious” topics.
For Listeners: Takeaways
- If you’re after a dose of laughter and authenticity about the madness of modern celebrity and social life, this episode delivers.
- Apt to jump topic but always entertaining, Vogue and Joanne’s chemistry ensures even the most random stories feel relatable.
- Listen for insights into therapy culture, online pile-ons, showbiz behind-the-scenes, and the little-known perils of second-hand Wu-Tang Clan shirts.