Podcast Summary: "MTGM EXTRA! 'Am I turning my boyfriend into my Dad?'"

Episode Information

• Title: MTGM EXTRA! "Am I turning my boyfriend into my Dad?"
• Release Date: March 5, 2025
• Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
• Description: In this bonus episode of My Therapist Ghosted Me, Vogue and Joanne delve into personal anecdotes, relationship dynamics, and a special listener email, all infused with their trademark honesty and humor.

1. Opening Anecdote: The Uninvited Sibling

Transcript Time: 00:10 - 00:35

The episode kicks off with Joanne sharing a humorous yet slightly awkward childhood memory:

• Joanne McNally (00:20): "Hello, and welcome to the bonus episode of My Therapist Ghost. With me."
• Joanne McNally (00:20): "We're just talking about that time when my brother walked into my room, and he shouldn't have walked into it. Now I've decided I don't remember it, that it never happened, because it was the only way to get through it."

Vogue joins in with playful banter about sibling dynamics, setting a lighthearted tone for the episode.

2. Navigating Perimenopause and Its Impact on Dating

Transcript Time: 00:55 - 06:19

Vogue transitions the conversation to her personal experience with perimenopause and how it affects her romantic relationships:

• Vogue Williams (00:55): "Tatalia went in for bloods bl. Because I have been scrolling so much TikTok that I was like, I'm perimenopausal. I'm perimenopausal."
• Joanne McNally (01:05): "You talk privately, but you haven't told the listeners."
• Vogue Williams (01:08): "I'm perimenopausal. I'm perimenopausal. I was engaged with a man. Sexually."

Vogue candidly discusses her struggles with sexual satisfaction:

• Vogue Williams (01:18): "I was in a tryst. And the sex was. It wasn't good. This wasn't good."

Joanne empathizes, highlighting the common tendency to self-blame during such experiences:

• Joanne McNally (02:45): "It is gas. You kind of. You do kind of tend to be like, oh, well, maybe. Why am I not into it? What's wrong with me?"

Vogue shares her frustration with medical professionals' dismissive attitudes:

• Vogue Williams (02:08): "Do you think maybe just don't fancy your... And I was like, oh, that literally had not occurred to me because the female angle on it is... It's my hormones. I'm obviously falling barren. But, yeah, I'm."

They discuss the importance of addressing hormonal changes proactively:

• Vogue Williams (05:08): "The plan is pump, go. I'm going to keep going in for these tests, and they'll look at my hormones. And then the second it looks like it could be the beginning of something, I'm going to pump myself full of the HRT. I'm going to get in ahead of us. I'm going to nip that in the bud."

This segment underscores the challenges women face in acknowledging and addressing perimenopausal symptoms, especially in the context of relationships.

3. Reflecting on Past Relationships and Sexual Experiences

Transcript Time: 03:38 - 07:00

Vogue brings up her ex-partner, Spenny, in a humorous evaluation of his prowess:

• Joanne McNally (03:38): "You're good. I would like to clear up. I don't want to say Spenny's bad in bed because he's not bad in bed."
• Vogue Williams (03:49): "Do you know what a high body count does not a good rider make?"
• Joanne McNally (03:56): "Sometimes he's a good rider. I'd have to give him that."

They joke about grading potential partners and envisioning future scenarios involving their ex, adding levity to the discussion around sexual satisfaction.

4. Introducing the "Culture Pocket" Segment

Transcript Time: 07:18 - 08:47

The hosts reveal their long-awaited "Culture Pocket" segment, a space to share cultural recommendations:

• Vogue Williams (07:18): "We had a name for it. We had a name for it."
• Joanne McNally (07:18): "Culture Pocket."

Vogue shares her current reading list and her admiration for audiobooks:

• Vogue Williams (07:47): "I'm reading so thrilled for you by Holly Burn. I call it Burn. Actually, do you know what?"
• Joanne McNally (08:03): "I love it."

They discuss the benefits of audiobooks and book collections, emphasizing the joy of sharing literary insights.

5. Listener Email: "Am I Turning My Boyfriend into My Dad?"

Transcript Time: 10:02 - 19:58

The heart of the episode revolves around a listener email from "Bogan Joanne," who seeks advice on her evolving relationship dynamics:

Email Overview: Bogan Joanne, a successful woman in her early 40s, outlines her frustrations with dating men who fail to engage meaningfully beyond superficial interactions. Her latest concern centers on her boyfriend seemingly morphing into a paternal figure, leading her to question if she's manipulating him subconsciously.

Key Points Discussed:

• Joanne McNally's Reading of the Email (10:15): "Hi Bogan Joanne... I just want to check if I'm being unreasonable or perfectly sane."

• Vogue's Initial Reaction (11:22): "Jesus Christ, I could have written this myself."

• Analysis and Advice:

  • Vogue Williams (13:36): "I think men, it's. It's a mess. When you get to your 40s and you're self-sufficient, dating gets gnarly."
  • Joanne McNally (14:14): "It's."
  • Vogue Williams (14:32): "I think this might be the straw that's broken. There's more going on here."

• Understanding the Dynamics: They explore how Bogan Joanne's independence and high standards make forming relationships challenging, emphasizing the importance of mutual investment and engagement.

• Humorous Interjections: The hosts infuse humor by relating the email to their personal experiences and stereotypes about men in their 40s.

• Concluding Advice:

  • Vogue Williams (15:42): "It's him. Yeah, it's definitely him."
  • Joanne McNally (15:45): "Yes, it's the system."

They conclude that the issue lies more with the individual's standards and the systemic challenges of dating in their age group rather than with the boyfriend himself.

6. Closing Remarks and Final Banter

Transcript Time: 19:54 - 20:36

As the episode wraps up, Vogue and Joanne engage in lighthearted conversation about language learning and their dramatic tendencies:

• Joanne McNally (19:58): "Todt here. Shot and down."
• Vogue Williams (20:00): "I don't speak German. I've told you."

They share a laugh over language mishaps and the dramatics inherent in their dialogues, reinforcing the show's blend of serious topics with comedic relief.

Final Notes:

• Vogue Williams (20:29): "That's it for this week. Thanks for listening. Please like and subscribe and tell your mates about us if you think they might like to listen to us also."
• Joanne McNally (20:36): "Goodbye, everybody. Sam."

Notable Quotes:

• Vogue Williams (01:18): "The sex was. It wasn't good. This wasn't good."
• Vogue Williams (05:08): "I'm going to pump myself full of the HRT. I'm going to get in ahead of us. I'm going to nip that in the bud."
• Joanne McNally (10:15): "I just want to check if I'm being unreasonable or perfectly sane."
• Vogue Williams (11:22): "Jesus Christ, I could have written this myself."
• Vogue Williams (14:32): "I think this might be the straw that's broken."

Conclusion

In this engaging bonus episode of My Therapist Ghosted Me, Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally navigate the complexities of midlife relationships, hormonal changes, and personal growth with candid honesty and infectious humor. From sharing personal anecdotes to dissecting listener dilemmas, the duo offers relatable insights and heartfelt advice, making the episode both entertaining and profoundly resonant for listeners experiencing similar life transitions.