MTGM EXTRA! "Bless this guy for misreading the situation..."

Summary

Podcast Summary: My Therapist Ghosted Me – MTGM EXTRA! "Bless this guy for misreading the situation..."

Release Date: June 4, 2025

Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally Guest: Joe

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1. Introduction and Lighthearted Banter (00:02 – 01:11)

The episode kicks off with a playful exchange between hosts Joanne McNally and Vogue Williams, setting a relaxed and humorous tone. They dive straight into a lighthearted debate about bananas, questioning their popularity and genuine likability.

• Vogue Williams: “Do you actually like banana? I don't think anyone actually likes it. They eat it.” (00:20)
• Joanne McNally: “I love banana folk. I love the texture… I love them on toast.” (00:45)
• Vogue Williams: “I love the smell… I love when the butter melts into the little itty bitty bits in the middle.” (01:01)

2. Health Foods and Online Food Trends (01:11 – 02:40)

The conversation shifts to the realm of health foods and online food trends. Joanne humorously critiques the proliferation of cottage cheese recipes online, labeling it a “superfood” that remains underappreciated despite high protein content.

• Joanne McNally: “Cottage cheese has done nothing. It's still that really boring branding… it's just stayed stoic for years.” (01:52)
• Vogue Williams: Expresses her aversion to cottage cheese, citing packaging and texture without having tasted it. (02:28 – 02:40)

3. Personal Anecdotes on Cheese and Food Preferences (02:40 – 07:21)

The hosts delve into personal stories about their favorite cheeses and food preferences. Vogue shares her love for Comte cheese as an alternative to craving chocolate, while Joanne and Joe engage in a humorous debate over the nuances of different cheese types.

• Vogue Williams: “It tastes like cream. I just had a stick of Comte because I was a bit hungry.” (02:58 – 03:18)
• Joanne McNally: Discusses Joe’s interest in cheese fondue as a bucket list item. (03:11)

4. Handling Personal Loss and Grief – Vogue's Story (03:23 – 11:22)

A poignant and deeply personal segment unfolds as Vogue shares her experience of losing her mother six years prior. She recounts an emotional incident on a plane where she was overwhelmed with grief, leading to a memorable interaction with a fellow passenger.

• Vogue Williams: “Six years ago, I lost my lovely mum… As the plane lifted into the air… I burst into tears.” (10:03 – 11:22)
• Joanne McNally: Offers compassionate support, highlighting the complexities of public grieving. (10:03 – 11:22)

5. Emotional Boundaries and Personal Space in Comforting Situations (11:22 – 14:21)

The discussion transitions to the challenges of emotional boundaries, especially when others attempt to comfort during vulnerable moments. Both hosts express their discomfort with physical gestures like hugging or holding hands during emotional distress.

• Vogue Williams: “When someone puts their arm on me, I'm just like, I just don't want it.” (12:54)
• Joanne McNally: “It's the worst when someone hugs you. It's like the release button.” (13:04)

6. Interpersonal Relationships and Living Situations (14:21 – 18:57)

Bringing humor into real-life scenarios, the hosts discuss the frustrations of living with others. From roommates stealing personal items to the mishaps of shared living spaces, their stories are both relatable and entertaining.

• Vogue Williams: “I know they steal my knickers… I'm gonna write my initials on all my knickers.” (16:39 – 17:06)
• Joanne McNally: Shares a funny incident about helping her cleaner stuck in a lift. (18:11 – 18:32)

7. Concluding Remarks and Listener Engagement (18:57 – End)

As the episode winds down, the hosts encourage listeners to send in their emails and share their own stories. They conclude with a mix of humor and sincerity, reinforcing the podcast’s commitment to honest and relatable conversations.

• Joanne McNally: “The email address if you want to write in. We'd love to hear from you.” (14:27 – 14:41)
• Vogue Williams: “Thanks everyone for listening and please do keep sending your emails in.” (21:09 – 21:40)

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Notable Quotes:

• Vogue Williams: “I burst into tears. Loud tears, loud enough to be audible above the aircraft engines…” (10:08)
• Joanne McNally: “It seems kind of patronizing that you'd assume if a woman's crying on a plane that it's about a man.” (12:24)
• Vogue Williams: “I put the oven on to roast my delicious potatoes. … there was Mermaid Barbie melting away onto all of my gorgeous trays.” (08:10 – 09:08)

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Key Themes and Insights:

• Authenticity and Humor in Real-Life Struggles: The hosts blend humor with genuine discussions about personal challenges, making the podcast both entertaining and relatable.

• Emotional Vulnerability: Vogue’s story about losing her mother highlights the complexities of handling grief and the importance of personal boundaries during such times.

• Interpersonal Dynamics: From handling uncomfortable situations on planes to the frustrations of shared living spaces, the hosts explore various facets of human relationships with unfiltered honesty.

• Health and Lifestyle Choices: Discussions on food preferences and health trends underscore the podcast’s approach to tackling everyday topics with a mix of seriousness and lightheartedness.

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Conclusion:

In this extra episode of "My Therapist Ghosted Me," Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally offer listeners a candid and humorous look into their lives, blending personal anecdotes with broader discussions on emotional well-being and interpersonal relationships. Through laughter and raw honesty, they provide a comforting space for listeners to reflect on their own experiences and challenges.

For more live shows, merchandise, and to connect with the hosts, visit mytherapistghostedme.com or email [e-mail].

Transcript

[Joe]

This is a Global Player original podcast.

[Joanne McNally]

Hello. Welcome to the bonus episode of my Therapist Ghost. Me with myself, Joanne McNally, and me, Vogue Williams.

[Vogue Williams]

Do you actually like banana? I don't think anyone actually likes it. They eat it.

[Joe]

Because it's healthy is the question on the nation's lips, isn't it?

[Joanne McNally]

I love that we get into the heavy stuff straight away. I'm like, whoa, okay, are we going to start there? Jeez, I thought you'd. I thought you'd.

[Vogue Williams]

Journalism.

[Joanne McNally]

Soften me in a little bit. Tickle me before we get to the hard stuff.

[Vogue Williams]

Only tough journalism for you guys. Go on. Do you like it?

[Joanne McNally]

I. I'm gonna. I'm.

[Vogue Williams]

She doesn't.

[Joanne McNally]

I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say I love banana folk. What?

[Joe]

Okay.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. I'm not faking us. I'm not saying not to be woke or to be politically correct. I genuinely love us. I love the taxer.

[Vogue Williams]

I love the smell.

[Joanne McNally]

I love the way they last for ages. I love them on toast. I love when the butter melts into the little itty bitty bits in the middle. Yeah, yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Because Amber eats bananas every day. She'll eat a banana every day and she hates what. That's. Yeah, that's why she eats it. She's like, I know, they're so good. I need the potassium. And I'm like, I'd rather take a potassium tablet. Surely they do that.

[Joanne McNally]

Some trainers, you know those online trainers, they're like, it's the Mars bar of the fruit world.

[Joe]

Is that what it is?

[Joanne McNally]

Because it's got lots of sugar in it, but it's naturally occurring sugars. Yeah. Bounty bar for breakfast. Right.

[Vogue Williams]

If someone shoves a peanut butter date my way again online, like, I don't want it. I don't want the peanut butter date. I'd rather a Snickers bar. There's no way. Oh, these taste so, like, it's. No, they don't. They do not taste like a Snickers bar. Absolutely.

[Joanne McNally]

If we're gonna go to hell. Hog on online food fads, cottage cheese has never had it so good. Every single trainer. Cottage cheese pancakes, cottage cheese casseroles, cottage cheese lasagna's, cottage cheese crackers, cottage cheese bread. Cottage cheese has done nothing. It's still that really boring branding. It's done nothing, but it's really, really high in protein and it's like a superfood. And it's just stayed stoic for years. Just silently packed tottering away at the back kitchens. The Almond mom kitchen or the Almond mom fridge is just in the back. My mom used to eat it in the 80s and now it's pow. It's cool.

[Vogue Williams]

I actually don't. I have such a judgment against cottage cheese and I think it might have to do with the packaging and I refuse to eat it. But I've never tasted it. But I look at it and I'm like. And I've never tasted it.

[Joanne McNally]

It's a funny texture. It's not completely different to boil, let's be honest.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh God. Well, I actually haven't put it in my mouth so I wouldn't know. I prefer a brie.

[Joanne McNally]

All right, well, yeah, wouldn't we all.

[Vogue Williams]

Have a break with some chili jam? Thank you. Good night.

[Joanne McNally]

I'll swap your pancakes for a wheel of brie trainer.

[Vogue Williams]

What's the delicious one? Comte. Oh, it tastes like. It tastes like cream. I just had a stick of Comte there because I was a bit hungry and I'm trying not to always eat chocolate when I'm hungry. You know when you just need a perk up bit of compte.

[Joanne McNally]

I'm not, I'm not familiar.

[Joe]

I think that might be the one that goes into the. What are they called? The fondues. Is it, is that tiny?

[Vogue Williams]

No, that's rack. That's rackless. Of course that stinks. That's.

[Joe]

I tell you what's an education, isn't it?

[Joanne McNally]

Joe, what have you been doing in your spare time? Have you been off in St. Barts on the slide? How do you know all these fancy cheeses?

[Vogue Williams]

He doesn't know any of them. I'm telling them it's a racklet. He's calling it a conte.

[Joe]

I've wanted to have cheese fondue my entire life. 34 this year. Never had it.

[Vogue Williams]

Still, I have a fondue set you can have.

[Joanne McNally]

You get any sort of diagnosis, Joe, we'll be sure to make sure you get a fondue as a bucket list situation.

[Joe]

Thank you. Yeah, no, if, if, if my time.

[Joanne McNally]

Is limited then that I guess if you're being philosophical about it. Yeah. Everyone's in dying.

[Joe]

You've only got.

[Vogue Williams]

Well, supposedly Bear Grill said he's only a quarter of the way through his life cuz he's going to live till 250. I mean that sounds like some. I'd be sp. I mean maybe he's manifesting. I'm going to start doing that.

[Joe]

Sure.

[Joanne McNally]

I was watching just speaking of death and it's in its impendingness. Bear Grylls can say what he wants but if he gets on an airline and that pilot is about to do a murder suicide. There's nothing he can do about it. Yes, I watched more. Yeah, I'm back in the Malaysian Airlines buzz.

[Vogue Williams]

Where did you get. I saw. It looked like you had cnn. I was like, how did she get CNN on her tv? Where are you?

[Joanne McNally]

Do you not have CNN on your tv?

[Vogue Williams]

Well, I suppose. I've never looked for it. It might be there.

[Joanne McNally]

So when my TV goes on and like I do, my TV has three remotes.

[Vogue Williams]

Why?

[Joanne McNally]

Where?

[Vogue Williams]

How?

[Joanne McNally]

I don't know why. I don't know where this. What this modern day multiple remote situation comes from. And I still don't know which. Which does what? I do know how to put Netflix on, but I know when it pops up in its natural state, my tv, it has all the news channels on it. I don't know why. They're just there. And then some weird German comedy channels and stuff. And then I have to kind of go clicking around to get into the Netflix and the. And the apples and stuff. But sometimes I just leave it in its natural state and it just. It's just a bit of company in the background.

[Joe]

I know, because amongst those channels will be GB News. And I know what you're like. You could get sucked into that.

[Joanne McNally]

Do you remember, I don't know if I said it on the podcast that GB News offered me a job as a panelist.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, no, Joanne, don't tell us. Joanne would be radicalized in moments.

[Joanne McNally]

We all know I'm a little suggestible if I watch anything for too long. I just have an open mind. Okay. It's curiosity, but in a quite sinister form. But. But yeah, they emailed my agent and they were like, we think she'd be a great fit. And I was like, okay, okay, okay, everyone calm down. What have I done? Is she showing? No, I was like, what have I done that. Like, they're. They're like, they're right wing, aren't they?

[Vogue Williams]

The. The old. The old tweets, maybe.

[Joanne McNally]

I literally was like, I thought I cleared them all up. I thought I. I thought I deleted all them. The fascism stage that I had three years ago.

[Vogue Williams]

Hang on a second. Your finances were posted. That's why they must have thought, now she's right wing. She.

[Joanne McNally]

This was before that.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, well, then I actually don't know why they would think that they were right wing.

[Joanne McNally]

And I still don't think. I mean, even though Goats has been kind to us, but I don't think even we're right wing money.

[Vogue Williams]

No, we're definitely not. Right now all the right wingers have left though. They've left. And now our taxes are going to go up because they've all left.

[Joanne McNally]

Left.

[Vogue Williams]

All the billionaires left the uk. I know. Anyway, I would like to go back to the fondue quickly. This is really odd for me to look at Joanne drinking tea and Joe drinking champagne. It just doesn't make sense at all. In my mind.

[Joanne McNally]

We should explain. Joe is quite brazenly sipping off a flute of champagne.

[Vogue Williams]

Five to 12.

[Joanne McNally]

Five to 12 on a Friday, on a work call.

[Joe]

Because a his. On his wedding.

[Joanne McNally]

Wedding anniversary.

[Joe]

So I can do Joe.

[Joanne McNally]

We don't know. You've just told us that.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, Joe, you could have made that up. Next week it's going to be like, I don't know, your dog's death anniversary or something.

[Joe]

Kept the fire burning for another year. You get a glass of champagne.

[Vogue Williams]

Just the one glass. Now, I would. You can't leave a bottle of champagne. It goes off.

[Joe]

No, the bottle's here.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, what kind of bottle? Oh, my God, look at that. Le Creuset.

[Joe]

There she is.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, it's a proper champagne.

[Joe]

Well, it says champagne on the bottle.

[Vogue Williams]

Okay, that's good then.

[Joanne McNally]

It's not in a cooler. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which means that you're not sharing a bottle with Josie. You're literally in your workshop hammering a bottle. And Joe, I would like to say, but even 12 o' clock, I think you might have a problem with this.

[Joe]

Cards on the table. She's still breastfeeding, so.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, my God. So you're getting the whole bottle. You're celebrating for two.

[Joe]

I've got one of those stoppers so I can pop it in, have it tomorrow.

[Vogue Williams]

I'll tell you what, I used to have a glass of champagne and breastfeed Cheesy. She slept like a baby.

[Joe]

Baby, can you hear me at the back there?

[Vogue Williams]

It's recommended. I heard the odd glass.

[Joanne McNally]

She's flat out sound and text to her exes and all duty. She's like, she woke up. Oh my God, what have I done?

[Vogue Williams]

Gigi, the other day, by the way, I put the oven on to roast my delicious potatoes. There's. Don't worry, there's a trad wife coming soon. About that. And I was like, what the fuck stinks? And the whole kitchen stank. Opened the oven and there was Mermaid Barbie melting away onto all of my gorgeous trays. And then Gigi was upset and I said, excuse me, I didn't put Barbie in there because she has a Barbie and its hair color changes if it goes into cold air or warm air. So I suppose it did make sense for her to do that.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, my God.

[Vogue Williams]

I know.

[Joanne McNally]

And the smell of burning plastic. And the smell of the burning of fake hair.

[Vogue Williams]

Ah, I know. Well, I still. I shoved the potatoes in. I was in a rush. So there is. They didn't taste amazing, I must admit.

[Joanne McNally]

Covered in glitter.

[Vogue Williams]

I won't be making it too far in this world. I'm after inhaling a shitload of plastic.

[Joanne McNally]

Mommy, why is there scales on the potato? Don't worry about it.

[Vogue Williams]

Well, I'm glad I've showed up for you today, honestly. And Jama was so nice. And Joe, I actually didn't send you a second message to apologize. I missed the pod yesterday, everyone. I. In Covent Garden and I got the email through and I thought, oh, well, I am not at home. But I actually forgot to apologize to you personally, so I'm apologizing. And now you both owe me one. You owe me one. And I can't wait.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, put some accounts on you. It's a bartering system. You get one back. So. I'm always thrilled when the cancellation comes in.

[Vogue Williams]

I'm like, oh, yes, well, I'm thrilled too, because I've been waiting for you to cancel for ages. And she hasn't canceled this series. I just don't know what the hell is going on with her. Very selfish.

[Joanne McNally]

I don't know either, really, to be honest.

[Joe]

Very on form.

[Vogue Williams]

Okay, we've got sobbing on planes or camel's backs.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, I'm. I'm big into sobbing on planes, so I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take the first one, please. Vogue.

[Vogue Williams]

Okay, girls, I've never emailed in before, but this time I had to. Let me explain. When Joanne was telling the story about crying on the plane, scared of a pat, dying. Don't worry, Joanne. She'll be with us for years. Yeah, I'm surprised you wouldn't be crying about yourself dying. Like I'd cry.

[Joanne McNally]

No, because I won't know when I'm dead. Do you know what I mean? It's. No, it's no loss to me.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, I feel like. Oh, no. And the man next to her not comforting her. I nearly crashed the car shouting my story back at you. Six years ago, I lost my lovely mum. Oh, no.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, no.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, no. Sadly, I hate that I say this all the time, but I'm glad that my dad went first. I couldn't bear it if it had been my mom. I love my dad, God bless him. I was living away In Spain at the time. And it was quite sudden. I've done the therapy. I miss her every day, but I'm okay. I'd come back, obviously, and we'll go back to Spain after her funeral. As the plane lifted into the air after three good dunes, are they still sky dunes if consumed at the airport before boarding?

[Joanne McNally]

Yes.

[Vogue Williams]

Okay.

[Joanne McNally]

Because they're potential. They will hit the sky eventually and therefore they will look at space. Hence space.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah. Okay. I burst into tears. Loud tears, loud enough to be audible above the aircraft engines at full power for takeoff. Deep wailing sobs. And I'm an ugly crier, so this was bad. The man next to me shifted uncomfortably and I assumed he'd mind his own business. As we got into the air, I calmed down a bit and it all went quiet. He picked his moment and said, don't be upset. He wasn't worth it. I. Oh God. That's this guy from his reading the situation. But this sent me back to wailing. I basically screamed back at him. She was my mom and she definitely was. Oh, Jesus. The arrows does clock that things had gone bad and offered to move me to another seat. Well, so other passengers gave dogs looks to this poor man who was only trying to help. No real lesson here. I just had to tell you.

[Joanne McNally]

I.

[Vogue Williams]

God. Well, that's a lesson to. That's a lesson to the men. Stay the fuck out of us. Don't get involved. Yeah, yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

It seems kind of patronizing that you'd assume if a woman's crying on a plane that it's about a man. You know, maybe she lost her job with NASA.

[Vogue Williams]

You never know. You never know.

[Joanne McNally]

Reduce us to crying over men. However, I will say I have cried a lot over men also in my life. So. And I do think it's kind of a cute thing for. For a man to say because they're. They don't really. They're just trying to say something so as not to say nothing.

[Vogue Williams]

And I. I don't know when I'm. And someone like puts their arm on me, I'm just like, I just don't want it. I want to be on my own to cry.

[Joanne McNally]

It's the worst when, when you feel the chin, the chin wobble go and the eyes start wetting. And then someone kind of gives you the look that they know. The worst is when someone hugs you. Cuz that's like the release button.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, can't bear it. But then you're stuck in an embrace. And I'm not like, I'm not much of a Hugger. And then I'm stuck there and I'm like, I feel really uncomfortable here now. I'm not enjoying it.

[Joanne McNally]

It's like when someone tries to hold my hand, I'm like, okay, well how. What's the. How long is. What are we. What are we talking here? Five minutes?

[Vogue Williams]

Who's holding your hand? A boyfriend?

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like one of the girls might take my hand to tell me something, you know.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, I don't like that. I don't like that either.

[Joanne McNally]

I'll hold your hand while I tell you. Yeah, you're pissing everyone off, that kind of thing, you know, All I'm thinking of is what's. How long she'll hold my hand for.

[Vogue Williams]

I can't bear it. I don't know, it must be the way we were brought up because I just don't like. My cousins and stuff would be very huggy with their mom and they'd like get into her bed and watch TV with her. And I'm like, that's not for me. That's not for me and Sandra. It's not in our destiny.

[Joanne McNally]

We weren't. Yeah, we didn't. We weren't comfortable. We didn't come from the most tactile of families. I would say. No, we're grand, aren't we? Nothing wrong with us.

[Vogue Williams]

Well, thanks for emailing in and we would love you to continue to do so because we do appreciate it. It's. We love the mtgmpod.

[Joe]

No, no.

[Vogue Williams]

Ah, off then. Whatever.

[Joanne McNally]

I'll take it from here, guys. I'll take it from here.

[Vogue Williams]

The.

[Joanne McNally]

The email address if you want to write in. We'd love to hear from you because we thoroughly enjoy these emails. The email just says hello@mtm. Sorry. Yes. No, no, no, no, that's just what I'm laughing. [e-mail]. thanks, guys.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, that's what I was going to say. I was just joking around with you two. Okay, okay. Speaking of straws and camels backs, I was in a shared flat like Joanne's back in the day. Mushrooms in the toilet, vibes I used to share with this guy. And like I'd come home, like I would have been away for the weekend or something like back in Dublin and I'd come home and there just be like puke all over the toilet seat and stuff like that. Because you. Yeah, it was really. It was really bad. I would have preferred mushrooms. I got on with the girls, weren't mates. I'd had the worst week. Arguments with family, boyfriend. Job, but I was coping. Then I got home and one of the girls was drinking tea out of my favorite mug. I went full she devil and threw the mug across the room. What? She threw us, but the throw went wrong. The mug went off at an angle and smashed just above the tv. The hot tea went down into the TV and screen went black. That outburst cost a lot. Mug, £8. TV £500. Ability to ever look the girls in the eye again, out of my price range. I moved out a month later. I'd say they were glad you moved out. No offense.

[Joanne McNally]

Yes. Yeah, that's. Listen, it happens. It's a boundary, you know, and if you get enough boundaries broken throughout the day, the final boundary, while it might seem small, is the straw the birthday camels back.

[Vogue Williams]

I mean, I. I personally explaining the saying.

[Joanne McNally]

I'm like, you're one Alexandra who thought you brought elephant in the room to the uk. Remember her? I talk about her twice a year. I'm sorry, I have to.

[Vogue Williams]

Alexandra Burke.

[Joanne McNally]

Alexandra Burke. Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

I would say now, in my humble opinion, and as you know this yourself, that's probably. That's probably a little bit too far, I'm gonna say.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Just like, I'm very Sherry with everything now. There's one thing that pisses me off because Amber and Megan, and I hope they hear this. I don't give a. I'm calling them out. Both of them. So Amber and Megan obviously live in. In my place in Dublin, so it's never empty. And when I go home, I know they steal my knickers. And I'm. I'm actually. I am bringing this Sharpie home with me next time, and I'm gonna write my initials on all my knickers. And that's the only thing. I don't like people stealing my charger or. Or stealing my knickers. It's the only thing.

[Joanne McNally]

Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

You're talking about the pro.

[Joanne McNally]

The problems of living with people, you mean?

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, like, that's the only thing that I share everything else. Although I made fajitas yesterday and I was trying to save the rest for lunch and Spen went to eat them. I was just like. Cuz sometimes I feel like he doesn't even taste food. He just like, shoves it into his throat. So I just like, just eat something else. Fajitas are annoying to me. And so that annoys me. Yesterday.

[Joanne McNally]

Thank you. We're all praying for a speedy recovery.

[Vogue Williams]

Free.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Glaring on him as he snorted my peppers up. I was like, get off.

[Joanne McNally]

I don't Think I'd know this if someone stole my knickers, to be honest. Well, I live alone. I live alone. So I'm my own problem. Do you know what I mean? I also do annoy myself. Like, I wake up in the morning, like, why didn't you clean the kitchen? Do you know, kind of stuff like that. But as far as thieving things go, yeah, but you. I am free. I am free from that.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, but you, you thieve from yourself because you just let your stuff around you. You lose it all the time.

[Joanne McNally]

My cleaner. It's a weird thing to say, but I suppose Jennifer, who helps me out around the house, comes twice a week, two hours at a time. And she. When I got home yesterday, she was gone and she texted me she'd been stuck in the lift for an hour. I know, I know. So I went down and cracked her out like a hero.

[Vogue Williams]

I didn't know you had a.

[Joanne McNally]

She was there. She was held by two bags of rubbish. I felt it wasn't a good feeling.

[Vogue Williams]

Stuck in the lift with pit.

[Joanne McNally]

She doesn't call me a surround, but.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, she calls her madam.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. Then she cowers in the corner. I'm not gonna hit you this time. Everything's working out really well.

[Vogue Williams]

You stay in there with the bins until you've learned your lesson. Jennifer. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

I told you, if you don't. Just the mantelpiece. Jennifer. This is what happens. I control the lift from my bed. There was a girl stalking. Do you know those Pure Gym like pods that you have to go in? Do you know these pods? Has anyone seen these? I was in a Pure Gym for a while. There's a pod. It's all very space age. It's stupid really, but you scan your card. Then you go into the pod and you just scan.

[Joe]

You.

[Joanne McNally]

You have to wait until the back door closes. It's like a tube. It's like.

[Vogue Williams]

Like in the bank.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, but it's way smaller. Like it's. You could only fit one person in the pot. There was a girl stuck in one for five hours.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, my God. What if you had to weed? I'd be worried about the Wii. I just. You'd have to piss in the corner.

[Joanne McNally]

The only reason I'm aware of this is because she was selling a top on Vinted and the person was going mad that she hadn't posted the top yet. So she had to post all this proof that she'd been stuck in a Pure Gym pod for five hours.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, my God.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, this what happens when you Live alone. There's a lot of time spent on the Internet.

[Vogue Williams]

My mom nearly can't get into lifts because when she was younger they were all playing. She's quite claustrophobic. They're all playing and they all kicked a beehive and then ran. Am I. No, that was, that was a different time. Sorry. No, they were all playing hide and yeah she got beat cuz you know how curly her hair is. She's got all these bees stuck in her hair and like she was like screaming, crying. It was her own fault for kicking a beehive but they were all playing hide and seek and like somebody she hid in a boot of a car but hadn't closed it but then someone pushed off the boot and pushed the boot closed and she was stuck in the boot so like she cannot stand, she won't get in a lift with more than one person.

[Joanne McNally]

I don't blame her. I don't blame her. There's terrible stories and this is probably a lovely way to round up the part about people being drunk, falling asleep in bins.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh I know.

[Joanne McNally]

Worst time we taken away by trucks and crushed it out and left in a. What are they called? Landfill.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Anyway, on that note, I'm on tour.

[Vogue Williams]

I'm on tour. What a great segue.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, just kind of bring it back up a bit. I'm on tour, I'm going everywhere. Birmingham, Bournemouth, Liverpool, London, Cork, Dublin core, Annie Killarney.

[Vogue Williams]

Fantastic. Now we should do that every week. I'll tell you about another awful death and then you can talk about your tour again. What a great way to do it. And guess what everybody, I'm not on tour. My two day tour is over. I'm wrapped.

[Joe]

Yeah, absolutely knackered.

[Joanne McNally]

You're back on land. You're back on land.

[Vogue Williams]

Thanks everyone for listening and please do keep sending your emails in. Show off. Joanne already told the email address she's back to eating her banana on toast.

[Joanne McNally]

It trainer now we have to have to fuel, you know.

[Vogue Williams]

Well I'm going to go eat my trainer eating my fajitas now in a second. I'm delighted.