My Therapist Ghosted Me – MTGM EXTRA! "Don't be scared..."

Episode Date: December 24, 2025
Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Podcast: My Therapist Ghosted Me (Global)

Episode Overview

In this festive bonus episode, Vogue and Joanne dive into their usual blend of honest chat, self-deprecating humor, and rambling reflections on life, TV, and holiday plans. They discuss live TV nerves, awkward family obligations, wild Grindr DMs, New Year's resolutions, and manage to sneak in a few announcements for Joanne's upcoming tour. The tone is candid, irreverent, and heavy with the Christmas spirit (and a little existential dread).

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter: Live TV & Self-Editing

• Joanne expresses dread about live television, saying as a comic, she prefers a "time delay and a heavy edit" (00:19–00:36).

  "I like, I like the dark stuff, but you just can't. ...I like a time delay and a heavy edit. I like to know it's there that I can lean on it." — Joanne (00:36)

• Vogue, on the other hand, loves live TV, citing impatience as the reason (00:21–00:27).

2. Reality TV & Outtakes

• Discussing ‘the jungle’ (presumably ‘I’m a Celeb’), they share how hard it is to self-censor 24/7 (01:11).
• Martin Kemp’s quietness in reality shows is mentioned, joking about how group settings are overwhelming ("I like morphing off into different little groups..." — Vogue, 01:44).
• Both admit to not being fans of group singing segments on TV.

3. Christmas Music, Celebrity Deaths & Chart Ambitions

• Vogue and Joanne recall their single "Good Girls" being number one in the Irish charts for "four minutes" before Shane McGowan's death took over the news (03:00).

  "Remember I said to you, this is the anniversary of me saying your fault. The only thing holding you back from taking Christmas No.1 is if something happens like Shane McGowan dies." — Joanne (03:06)

• Staggering royalties for ‘Fairytale of New York’: They marvel at it earning around £400k per year (03:00–03:21).
• Side anecdotes about Kirsty McColl’s tragic passing take a darkly comic turn, as always, met with a comic “It’s Christmas Eve!” call for decorum (04:51).

4. Christmas Obligations & Dodging Family Events

• Joanne confesses bailing on her annual cousins’ lunch, offering to "soften the blow" with a January reschedule (05:08).
• The hosts laugh about how sometimes you just need to do what you want at Christmas, not what everyone else expects (05:53).

5. Social Batteries & Homebody Tendencies

• Both hosts relate to the need for solitude and avoiding excessive socializing:

  “I’m particularly kind of strung out on people this Christmas now. I have canceled all of them since…” — Joanne (06:00)

• Vogue admits nearly inviting herself to Joanne’s for a spontaneous night but opted out to avoid a late one (06:18).

6. "QVC moment" and Tour Dates

• Joanne cheekily plugs her upcoming shows—listing cities and encouraging listeners to buy tickets (09:56–10:45).
• Vogue jokes about attending multiple shows and negotiating for free flights.

7. New Year's Plans & Resolutions (“Resos”)

• Vogue’s Plans: Home in Dublin, classic family pub dinner, fireworks, “in bed by one” (13:04).
• Joanne’s Ideal: Skipping the countdown, aiming for a low-key luncheon, melatonin, and rest (14:03).

  "I’d like to eat something on the day, do a nice New Year’s Eve luncheon... take a melatonin, sleep through the countdown, wake up, smog, rested, invested..." — Joanne (14:12)

• Both share a shared bemusement at the enforced cheer of “Auld Lang Syne” and pitch for a new, possibly Bewitched-themed, song for New Year’s (13:53–14:03).
• Resolutions: Vogue plans a huge clear-out and stress reduction ("every time I wake up and look at my aura ring..." — 11:48), considering trying sound baths. Joanne jokes about "moving on from the boo booze"—a play on toy names and alcohol.

8. Parenting, Perspective, and Suburban Life

• Vogue recounts funny moments with her children and their skewed sense of wealth and housing (12:34).
• Jokes about buying their own house in London versus parental provision–relatable urban woes.

9. Solitude, Mental Health, and Home

• Joanne notes she can go days without leaving her flat, resulting in "ratty" moods and needing more outside time (16:28).

  "I realized, I said, Joanne, you haven’t left the flat in three days. ...You’re like a cooped-up German." — Joanne (16:45)

• Vogue suggests borrowing her dog to force outdoor walks, which spirals into banter about drone delivery of pets.

10. Kooky Dating App Encounters & The "Horny Ghost"

• Listener Letter: A listener shares a wild Grindr DM from “Horny Ghost”—offering to “float around” and play (18:49).
• Both have fun dissecting the message:

  "Sorry, that was not a kink. That’s a nervous breakdown." — Joanne (19:10) "Some people dress up as babies and go around in nappies and have an adult-sized cot. I think the fact that he thinks he’s a ghost is less frightening to me." — Vogue (19:12)

• They ponder if respecting all kinks has gone too far, noting this one borders on "loon-shaming" and not deserving respect (19:21–19:37).
• The follow-up message (“I see you’re scared of ghosts. I’ll see you later”) is deemed both "weird" and "fascinating" (19:48).

11. Humor in Dating DMs & Modern Online Etiquette

• Producer Joe asks if there's still room for humor and mucking about in DMs (21:03).

  "Not with me, Joe. ...We’re in our 40s now. Just get on with it." — Joanne (21:09) "If I had to start online dating again, the desperation leaking from my pores would be unbearable." — Vogue (21:19)

12. Nude Skiing, Social Media, & Who Listens

• Vogue jokes about staged "naked on the slopes" Instagram content, mimicking influencers (21:51).
• They close with a nod to their audience:

  "Happy Christmas, girlies and boys." — Vogue (22:05)
  "I respect our listeners too much to call them girlies. Happy Christmas, women and gays." — Joanne (22:11)
  "And the odd straight. ...And Frank ...and them ...and to the ghosts." — Vogue & Joanne (22:23–22:32)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "I like a time delay and a heavy edit. I like to know it’s there that I can lean on it." — Joanne (00:36)
• "Remember I said to you, this is the anniversary of me saying your fault. The only thing holding you back from taking Christmas No.1 is if something happens like Shane McGowan dies." — Joanne (03:06)
• "Sorry, that was not a kink. That’s a nervous breakdown." — Joanne (19:10)
• "Some people dress up as babies and go around in nappies ... I think the fact that he thinks he’s a ghost is less frightening to me." — Vogue (19:12)
• "If I had to start online dating again, the desperation leaking from my pores would be unbearable." — Vogue (21:19)
• "Happy Christmas, women and gays. ...And to the one straight man called Frank. ...And to the ghosts." — Joanne & Vogue (22:11–22:32)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:19–01:11: Live TV fears and real-time editing as a comic
• 03:00–04:51: Christmas singles, chart trivia, and Shane McGowan story
• 05:08–06:09: Dodging family holiday obligations
• 09:56–10:45: Joanne’s tour dates and comic “QVC moment”
• 13:04–14:48: New Year’s plans and collective apathy for the countdown
• 16:28–17:05: Reflections on solitude, working from home, and getting outside
• 18:49–19:48: Grindr ghost DM read and comic analysis
• 21:03–21:19: Is there room for humor in dating DMs? "Get on with it"
• 22:05–22:32: Closing shoutouts for all listeners (“women, gays, the odd straight, and ghosts”)

Tone and Takeaways

With their combination of raw honesty, quick wit, and willingness to poke fun at themselves and the world, Vogue and Joanne deliver another episode that both distracts from and embraces holiday stress. The chat is peppered with tangents, but beneath the jokes are real, relatable feelings about social exhaustion, family pressure, and the awkwardness of modern connection—online and off.

Whether dodging relatives, planning new year's resolutions, or wondering if that DM is ghosting or just ghosts, the pair leave listeners with laughter and the comforting sense that we're all just muddling through.

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Happy Christmas, women, gays, the odd straight (hi Frank), and any ghostly listeners!