MTGM EXTRA! "Handwritten letters..."

Summary

Podcast Summary: My Therapist Ghosted Me

Episode: MTGM EXTRA! "Handwritten letters..."
Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Date: February 25, 2026

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Overview

In this lively bonus episode, Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally return with their trademark blend of humor, honesty, and sharp observations. The main focus is a listener query about the epidemic of exes sending lengthy, handwritten letters post-breakup, but the duo detours through stories about the Brits, awkward celebrity encounters, royal scandals, and some musings on friendship, boundaries, and forgiveness. True to form, Vogue and Joanne keep things irreverent and refreshingly open, exploring their personal experiences (or lack thereof) and offering “unqualified” advice with a hearty dose of laughs.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Brits, BAFTAs, and Award Show Shenanigans

• Vogue is set to attend the Brits and anticipates the afterparty, lamenting a past embarrassing encounter with David Gandy (00:44).
• Joanne jokes about not needing invitations but still checks her WhatsApp and tour dates, accusing Vogue of only inviting her to events when she knows Joanne can’t attend (01:08).
• Both hosts riff on the absurdity of award categories and conspiracies, referencing Vogue’s musical past and making fun of award systems like the IFTAs (01:26).
• Memorable Quote:
  “I wouldn't go to my own funeral without inviting you first.” – Vogue (01:21)

2. Beauty, Self-Image & Recording Standards

• Joanne reports from her mom’s spare room, loving the lack of video on bonus episodes so she can be her “ugly boss-bound self” (01:59).
• Vogue turns up in lip gloss, explaining she'd had work to do, and the pair launch into a self-deprecating conversation about fluctuating between 8.5s and 6s depending on their grooming (02:23).
• Joanne describes how she “scrubs down” quickly and the struggles of morning face puffiness (02:43).

3. Recreational Use of Gas and Air

• Listener emails in a story about someone illegally storing gas and air in a cellar, using it as a social lubricant during gatherings and chess clubs (05:17).
• Joanne and Vogue trade jokes about “balloon-related” work perks and the legality of such recreational habits (05:34).
• Memorable Quote:
  “Try and snatch that for Joanne on the way out. And then I forgot about it. Sorry.” – Vogue (04:17)

4. Royal Scandal and Mugshots

• The pair react to memes about Prince Andrew following recent news, digress into royal family history, and debate which mugshots make for the most iconic felon moments (06:53).
• Joanne aspires to be a “hot felon,” using a mugshot as a potential springboard for brand deals (07:47).
• Memorable Quote:
  “You want to be a hot felon. Do you know what I mean? Get some brand deals out of it.” – Joanne (07:47)

5. The Epidemic of Handwritten Breakup Letters (Main Listener Email)

• A listener describes her sister’s ex sending a scented, handwritten breakup letter after no contact had been established, sparking a bigger conversation about the psychology and etiquette of such gestures (09:43).
• Joanne admits she’d be thrilled to get such a letter, seeing it as validation, and confesses to setting boundaries just to have them broken:
  “I only set boundaries to test people to break them.” (11:41)
• Both hosts reveal they’ve never received such letters and debate whether blocking is healthy or petty (12:01).
• They muse on the motivations behind writing these letters: is it forgiveness, a bid to rekindle, or just closure? More info needed! (12:56)
• Vogue expresses interest in receiving a letter, “even when I'm dead” (13:43).
• Joanne reflects on forgiveness over time, referencing ‘Wuthering Heights,’ and sees value in reaching out years later with a note of peace (14:50).
• Memorable Quote:
  “There's something lovely after a prolonged period of time for two people or one and a half to reach out in a way with the calm, kind letter, respecting the time spent together and saying, enjoy your life.” – Joanne (14:50–16:26)

6. Friendship and FOMO

• Running gags about always inviting each other, vague suspicions about lost mail, and the dynamics of being “out of the game” (13:36).
• Vogue wonders if perhaps her husband, Spencer, is burning her secret fan mail out of jealousy (13:57).

7. Event Vlogging and Miscellaneous Tangents

• Joanne requests that Vogue vlog her upcoming parade appearance, specifically suggesting she use a “Francis Bourgeois” style reverse camera for extra weirdness (15:31).
• Vogue debates dressing as a leprechaun; Joanne and the producer caution it may be offensive (16:16).

8. Reflections on Closure and Moving On

• The episode concludes with both hosts finding a tenderness in the idea of forgiveness letters, even if they themselves haven’t been on the receiving end. They welcome old flames (or anyone who’s wronged them) to send in handwritten apologies—jokingly giving out Howth as the address, but Joanne deflects to giving out her dad’s address for “safety” (18:09).
• A brief note that the much-anticipated “America’s Next Top Model scandal” is saved for the main episode (18:29).

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Notable Quotes

• “I wouldn't go to my own funeral without inviting you first.” – Vogue (01:21)
• “That's why when the video came on and Vogue was putting on lip gloss, I had a small panic attack. What are you doing?” – Joanne (01:59)
• “I only set boundaries to test people to break them.” – Joanne (11:41)
• “You're not a priority for letters anymore... Maybe you're getting ten letters a week and Spencer’s setting fire to them out of jealousy.” – Joanne (13:43)
• “There's something lovely after a prolonged period of time... a calm, kind letter, respecting the time spent together and saying, enjoy your life.” – Joanne (14:50–16:26)
• “But I do think it would be a nice thing to do to say, sorry about that, I was a bit of a dickhead and I shouldn't have done that to you.” – Vogue (17:13)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:44 – Vogue on attending the Brits, past afterparty mishaps
• 05:17 – Listener email: the recreational gas and air user
• 06:53 – Prince Andrew memes and mugshot ambitions
• 09:43–12:00 – Introduction and dissection of the handwritten letter epidemic
• 11:41 – Joanne’s theory on boundaries ("set to be broken")
• 14:50–16:26 – Musings on forgiveness and closure via letters
• 15:31 – Head-cam vlogging and St. Patrick’s Day parade plans
• 18:09 – Joke invitation for all exes to send in letters, with Howth as the return address

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Tone & Style

• Conversational, irreverent, candid.
• Banter-filled, with quick asides and inside jokes.
• Warmth in reflections about forgiveness and friendship.
• Consistent with the podcast’s tagline: “100% honesty guaranteed.”

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In Summary

This episode of My Therapist Ghosted Me delivers its usual blend of wit, openness, and sideways wisdom as Vogue and Joanne dissect the surge of handwritten breakup letters. With sideline commentary on celebrity culture, royal scandal, and the mechanics of friendship, the hosts stay delightfully off-topic while ultimately finding some sweetness in the notion of written closure. If you haven’t been ghosted by an ex via scented letter—or are still waiting for one—this episode might just inspire you to check the post.

Transcript

[A]

This is a Global Player original podcast.

[B]

Hello and welcome to. My therapist ghosted me with me, Vogue

[C]

Williams and Joanne McNally.

[A]

Joanne and I are talking about the Brits and I love her so much that she thinks that I would be in a category for the Brits.

[C]

You don't know why would know what you'd be up to.

[A]

I love you so much. You're like a proud stage mom. So what award are you up for at the Brits? Well, actually.

[C]

Well, if you're not up for something, do people. Can people just go?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you can go. Brands invite you along and I haven't been. Well, I've never actually been to the Brit. I've only once been to the afterparty, remember and I told you that story where I humiliated myself in front of David Gandhi and I woke up in my house and all the beds were. Yeah. So that was the last time I went. I know better for this time. So I get to go to the Brits and then I get to go to the Warner after party and Amber's going to come with me because you're not around. I did invite you.

[C]

Oh, thank you. Yeah, thank you. Remember, I don't. You know, I don't have to be invited to everything all the time. I'm happy when I see other people at events when I'm not there. Now I will have a quick scan of the WhatsApp to see was I. Was there any invitation extended?

[A]

There was. I wouldn't go to my own funeral without inviting you first. Okay.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she. And it. And she. But she checks my tour, she checks my website first to make sure I can't go and then sends the invitation. By the way, category wise, I'm sorry, you had a. You had a Christmas number one with Good Girls, which could easily have been nominated for a Brit Award

[A]

masterpiece.

[C]

The fact that isn't up for an IFTA is an absolute shock and I'm convinced there's a conspiracy theory going on.

[A]

Where are you?

[C]

My mom's spare bedroom.

[A]

Oh, I've not. We've never been to this room.

[B]

Hello.

[C]

This is. Well, considering this. I was just. I. Considering. We don't record. We don't like video. The bonus. I'm free to be my ugly boss bound self. That's why when the video came on and Vogue was putting on lip gloss, I had a. I had a small panic attack. What are you doing?

[A]

What are you.

[C]

Why are you putting that?

[A]

My lips are dry. Sorry.

[C]

This is the day to be ugly.

[A]

Look at Joe I have to film. I had to film two things this morning.

[D]

That's why, honestly, I could have. I could have predicted that.

[C]

I'm so obvious now. I'm obvious, you know, Yourself a hack.

[A]

Listen, neither of you are ugly. You're usually. Now, when you've put a bit of effort in, I'll give you. Is your eight and a halfs.

[C]

Yeah, Yeah.

[A]

I mean, when there's no effort, you might slip slightly to a. Slightly to a six. And I. I slipped to the six myself.

[C]

I was right about it the other day. I was like, I scrub up, but my God, do I scrub down very quickly within minutes.

[A]

I was training with John this morning and I was like, oh, God. And I actually looked at myself. I was like, can I go on like this? Like, I don't think I can even show my face to. Just a lick of concealer.

[C]

Yeah, it's. What. I've said it before and I'll say it again, it's because I sleep facing down. All the. I was going to say cortisol wine rushes to my face. And then when I. When I wake up in the morning, I have to do a lot of kind of lymphatic drain depuffing. Yeah.

[A]

I need to get those ice baths for our faces. Did you get me one? No, but I went to America.

[B]

You can get me one.

[C]

An ice bath for your face. What are you talking about?

[A]

The one with the. The one that you breathe through. Through the Kylie Jenner.

[C]

Oh, God, no, no, no. That's Guantanamo Bay. I'm not doing that. It looks like a punishment, like they're trying to get information out of her.

[A]

Well, I want one, so get me one when you're in the States.

[C]

I had a message from a woman who had listened to the pod and she was like, I have a story to tell you about the air and gas. I'm not sure if either of you got it. Yes. We're talking about. Remember we were talking about.

[A]

Did I not. Did I not send you a picture of. When I was down, I went to the Bear by Vogue offices in Cork and they had this huge thing of helium, a gas canister. And I was like, sorry. I was like, what's that for? And they were like, well, we do stuff with balloons and stuff. And I was like, balloons? And they were like, for decoration. And they just had it sitting under there. I was like, try and snatch that for Joanna on the way out. And then I forgot about it. Sorry.

[C]

Decoration. That's a shame. I was about to have them nominated for an IFTA for best employer in Ireland for giving balloons to their employees.

[A]

Are you obsessed with the IFTAs? Because they're on today and you keep saying the IFTAs.

[C]

They seem like the only award system I know in Ireland.

[A]

Really? Someone goes to me last night, I'm going to the diffuse and I was like the diff does, what's the difference? And she goes, no, I said diffuse.

[C]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I was like, sorry. I was like, I know what the IFTAS are, I'm not pick. I was like, I just thought you were saying something new like the dip does. I was like, I don't know what the TIFT does is duh.

[C]

Is Dublin for the Jonas. Yes. So here she goes. Just listen to the mtgm. Is it? Actually maybe I shouldn't say her name because I think this is illegal. Just listen to the MTGM episode where you discussed the recreational use of gas and air and had to message my brother in law who I think I think had a liver problem. She's not sure and couldn't drink. Used to use gas and air like wine. He was a non medical doctor and would order it using his doctor title and then store it illegally in his cellar. Whenever the rest of us partook of Aveeno, he would trundle down to the cellar and bring up his canister and breathing tube. He would also head out and about to a chess club with his canister in a bag.

[A]

There's a lot of woods and walls here. What happened? Is he still going?

[C]

Yeah, she doesn't say. There's no death here. I guess maybe there was a separation or divorce predictably. Couldn't believe it the first time I witnessed it, but everyone else just acted like it was normal. Unfortunately, license, you can't dispose of the canisters so the empty is just built up in the cellar. God knows what they do if they ever move. A ridiculous but highly amusing little situation.

[A]

Hope you're well, etc Send his address on. Now go on, we'll go down there for a little party.

[C]

They're all empty.

[A]

Able to get his hands on loads

[C]

like a tomb of good time.

[A]

Joanne, if I have a fourth child, right, I'm inviting you. Oh, I'm inviting you into the room. You can be my delivery partner. Spinny doesn't care it he will, he'll be just be like whatever. It's the fourth. Yeah, you can be my birthing partner.

[C]

I'd say it's boring watching the fourth one come out. First one you're like, this is a buzz.

[A]

It'll be nice to have someone new in the room as well, who would be, like, excited, you know, and, you

[C]

know, I'm very supportive. I'd be like, this is your British award. I'd be like, get it, girl.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

And I'll supply a P. Diddy amount of lube and watch the thing shoot

[A]

out, and I'll catch it in one

[C]

hand like a rugby ball. Like peed. No, no, no. Like bad bunny at the. No.

[A]

Did you see? Did you. Obviously, we're not going to get too into it because there's too many, like, horrendous things around it, but Prince. But Andrew Mount Baton, Windsor being arrested and all the memes that have come out.

[C]

So I knew that the. The prince. They'd redacted the prince. Well, they actually. Sorry. They did the name. I mean, they'd taken Prince off his title, But I had no idea who have made. Batten of Windsor was. Or what's his name? What's his new name?

[A]

That was the. That was Prince Philip's name, wasn't it? Made button. I think I know that from the crown.

[D]

I'm gonna say yes or maybe. Or possibly.

[C]

I. I thought it was a different royal. I was like, ah, another one's in the. In the mix. But I didn't realize they've just given him. They've renamed them.

[A]

I feel like if I got arrested, I'd like. I'd really like to try and do the felon shot.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[A]

You want to have something decent out there. I don't want to be. I don't want to be Nick Nolte. Nick Nolte has the worst mug shot I have ever. Anyone.

[C]

Can I look? Yeah, you want to be a hot felon. Do you know what I mean? You want to get some brand deals out of it, which is what, if you're smart about it, you know? Did you hear Allison? Did you hear Allison Hammond? Did you hear what Allison Hammond said? They did it on his birthday. Could they not wait today? Poor Allison. She's like, he's probably got plans.

[A]

Happy birthday. Get in the car.

[C]

He's probably got plans for himself.

[A]

Good. Good. I don't think he would have plans. There wouldn't be many people attending his party. I wouldn't think Joe's just so.

[D]

You'd probably fairly easily get a reservation at the pizza express in Woking.

[A]

Well done, Joe. Getting involved.

[D]

Topical five years ago.

[C]

That was well done.

[A]

That's a good.

[C]

Wasn't it a nostalgic callback? I would call that Joe. Well done. Oh, I read this other thing. It was saying that there's a strategy sometimes, like there's like 4 million pages in this document or whatever that the strategy is to overload because, like, we know it's going to make sense of that.

[A]

Stu.

[C]

Too much information in one go. We don't have the attention span. We're busy watching Rogues Got Deep Cleaned on Tik Tok. Then we to go. Like, we need people with way more experience than us to like, bring it all down. But was it your one lady, Victoria? I mean, talk about. Oh, not reading the rib.

[A]

But she's.

[C]

If you weren't on the list, you were just a loser. Basically.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

God. Sorry, I'm not on a pedophiles list. I'm absolutely heartbroken. You think it's cool to be on the list of a pedophile? Like, no, thanks.

[C]

And V, we love an invite. We love an invite invite. You know, we love an invite.

[B]

But I think was on the plane.

[C]

Yeah. That I landed, saw what was going on. I said bring me home, please. It was a quick in and out. You can check the roll.

[A]

Okay, we'll move on to emails. Joe's going to have a nervous breakdown on this Friday morning.

[B]

Okay. Hi, Joanne, Vogue. And Jo, I have a very important matter to discuss with you and a potential topic of discussion for your podcast that I listen to religiously every week. Thank you very much.

[A]

Big fat.

[B]

Thank you. You may or not be aware of this, but there is an epidemic of men writing extensive, handwritten, stamped, posted letters post breakup of a relationship situationship, particularly after no contact has been agreed and it needs to be addressed. What? Okay, let's get into it. Okay. My sister has just received a letter in the post from her ex situationship, signed, sealed, and saturated with his cologne. And as I sit here with her, my gay best friend and my boyfriend. I know, I'm sorry. We were all deeply perplexed and wondering why history continues to repeat itself and why men in particular continue to insist this is a good idea.

[A]

Have you ever got a letter off anyone?

[C]

Is that. Is it finished?

[B]

No, I'm just asking you. Okay. We have multiple friends and family. No, we have had multiple friends and family receive letters at various points in their lives. I even had a friend's ex message me for permission to send a small letter to her, which I gave him a large no. We think this phenomenon needs to be dissected. And we all agree you're the only people for the job. Kind regards, Ellen. Oh, my God, Joanne. Are we that pathetic? That no one's ever written us 100 letter sent to us.

[C]

When I hear men riding long form, it bangs of manifesto, which is never good. Men riding long. You know what else there's a manifesto about? So, firstly, again, coming back to my very toxic traits, if a situationship that I blocked sent me a. A written letter, I would be thrilled because I've won. I've won that note.

[B]

Even the ones that cheated on me, I'd be like, sweet, I cracked and I won.

[C]

Now I know I'm part of the problem. That's how I would see it. I've no interest in boundaries. I only set boundaries to test people to break them. That's what my boundaries are for. The boundaries are there so that it makes it harder for you to contact me. But if you don't still try and contact me, there will be consequences.

[B]

I don't.

[A]

That's fair enough. I completely understand that.

[B]

But I don't know anyone who's getting letters of this kind, and I certainly

[A]

have not received any letter of this kind of.

[B]

I still have people blocked, though, I have to say. And I'm not trying to be immature, I just think it's for the best.

[A]

Certain people that I was with, I'm

[B]

like, just blocked for life, you know, I think. I think it's pathetic to block people during an argument, which I have done as well. But it's pathetic and I know it is.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But if you're gonna block someone for life, that's fine. Just for life.

[C]

Sometimes you can't help but having a very emotional reaction in a moment. I've unfollowed people, which I regret. I regret now. I was like, that didn't deserve an unfollow. But I. If I went. I was. I went up all into my own head and was like, you know yourself, you have a glass of wine, you're like them and whatever. Anyway, not my finest moment. And now, now they. I don't think they've noticed and, you know, keep saying follow back. Anyway, whatever. That's a totally different rant. I kind of need more information on the letter thing. What do the situationship say? Are they asking for forgiveness? Are they asking to get back together? Are they in a program and they're just kind of apologizing?

[B]

I think it's forgiveness, but I just.

[A]

I find it really kind of.

[C]

Do you want me to forgive you so we can get back together? You know what. What is. What is it? We need more information. We need an update on this because

[B]

I think it's the Olympic Fella. But in letter form.

[A]

I think it's really trying your hardest

[B]

to get back with somebody. But it's in letter form. But we. I don't know how we're going to help you with this because we don't get any of these letters. I don't know anyone who's gotten any. Do you know anyone?

[C]

Sorry, Vogue. I will correct you there. Me and you, when have we ever needed to have gone through an experience to have a wildly ill, ill informed opinion on it? We don't need to have experienced a letter.

[B]

I just want opinion.

[A]

To be honest.

[B]

Like I want a letter.

[C]

And you're married for kids. You're Grant. You're out of the game.

[B]

It doesn't matter.

[C]

You're out of the game.

[B]

Even. Even when I'm dead. I don't care. I still want a letter even when I'm dead.

[C]

You're not a priority for letters anymore. Or look, Maybe you're getting 10 letters a week and Spencer's setting fire some out of jealousy.

[B]

You're actually.

[A]

You are correct.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

You're right.

[D]

That's probably it, actually.

[C]

There you go. Yeah, thank you. Similar to Wuthering Heights.

[B]

I will take the winner award and my Brit Awards. Thank you, Joanne.

[C]

There you go. Similar to Wuthering Heights, when her ward sets fire to all the letters from Heathcliff there. It's probably a similar vibe. I love the idea of forgiveness after time. I think there is a lot of pain and hurt in relationships, a lot of emotion, a lot of anger, resentment. People aren't necessarily thinking straight. And then I think there's something lovely after a prolonged period of time for two people or one and a half.

[B]

Sorry, what was that? Amber's trying to sneak by us and

[A]

she fell stairs and dropped her coffee.

[C]

Oh, no. She's getting ready to steal the show at the baftas. That's what she's doing. She's going to fake a four.

[B]

The Brits. I'm going to the Brit. I'm going to the BAFTAs this weekend. I'm going to the BAFTAs. I don't know who I think I am.

[A]

I listen also invited you to that.

[C]

All right, all right. Macaulay Culin.

[A]

Oh, I'm only lurking.

[B]

I'm lurking. I shouldn't be at this one.

[A]

This one's for like the movie stars and stuff. So, like, I am complete nobody.

[B]

Loser.

[C]

You'll be handing out chupa chops in the ladies toilets. But still you're in. That's the main thing.

[B]

Gladly.

[A]

I would do that. I'll Be going around with Mike.

[B]

I'll be vlogging it like a complete.

[A]

Listen, I already know my place at those Brits. I know I'm already a loser, so

[B]

it makes no difference if I have my vlogging coverage.

[C]

Sorry, can I just say, you better vlog this Paddy today parade marshall thing and you better do what your man France was. You know that train guy, Joe.

[D]

Francis Bourgeois.

[C]

Francis Bourgeois. Have you seen the camera angle that he does? I'm still. I think he is a grifter. Anyway, that's my personal opinion. I don't for a second. I think he is playing up the very nerdy train guy. Anyway, it doesn't matter. The point is he reverses his head camera onto himself. And if you do not do that for us folk on, in the, in the car on St Patrick's Day in your popemobile, doing your marshalling, I'll be absolutely fuming.

[D]

Official. That's a request.

[C]

Come on. You need a back to front camera. Head towards. And you need to look insane. There's no other way to do this.

[A]

Okay, fine, I will.

[B]

Do you know what?

[A]

I might dress up as a leprechaun as well.

[B]

Would that offend people? Probably.

[D]

I'd say probably.

[C]

Yeah, it would.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

They had me in a picture with a leprechaun.

[A]

Who was that? I don't.

[B]

I don't know what he was.

[C]

That was me. I keep telling you. That was me. I was saying, I think there's something really lovely and really sweet in years after the fact when everyone's calmed down and the rage has passed and the hurt has passed. To reach out in a way with the calm kind letter, respecting the time spent together and saying, enjoy. Enjoy your life. I hope you're. I hope you're happy. I think there's nothing wrong with that. I think it's really nice.

[B]

I actually think that you're like, do you know what?

[A]

Because I genuinely like and I. I don't hold. I actually genuinely have no grudges against

[B]

people that I used to be with.

[A]

I don't have any hatred for them.

[B]

No, I don't. I don't have any hatred for them. Even the people that cheated on me. I'm like, oh, whatever. But I do think it would be

[A]

a nice thing to do to say,

[B]

do you know what?

[A]

Sorry about that. I was a bit of a dickhead and I shouldn't have done that too.

[B]

And like, it actually would. Even though, like, I don't need it. It would actually be a mature, nice thing to do.

[D]

We are open doesn't need the cologne on it, though.

[B]

No, it's.

[A]

And then I would send.

[C]

That might have been an accident.

[A]

Return address.

[B]

Anthrax.

[C]

That might have been. Okay. Romance is dead in the Williams household. I think there's some. And a letter is particularly considered. An email feels a little like an email is fine, but maybe they were blocked on the email. I think this is really nice. I. I'm in support. But then again, I think Wuthering Heights is a romantic story. So. Look, look, I'm. I. I thrive on toxicity and I thrive on people breaking boundaries for one last hurrah. But I do think the letters is cute and sweet, and I'm in support. And Vogue and I are open to receiving handwritten mail.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we would actually appreciate it if you would like, to anyone who has

[B]

wronged us in any way, shape or

[A]

form, just write Vogue Williams.

[B]

Howth.

[A]

You can send Joanne's here, too, and I will pass them on.

[C]

No, I'll give Pat's address just in case. They're crazy. They'll assault Pat and I'll be fine. I won't give my. I'll give Pat's address. It's safer for me.

[A]

Yeah, perfect.

[C]

Yeah. Both you and I both decided we're gonna have a good chat about the America's Next Top Model scandal in the main.

[A]

Oh, gosh, I can't. Yeah, I know. I can't record with you if you're not having mascara on. It's no to anybody involved.

[B]

Everyone, thanks for listening and we will see you on Friday with the main.

[A]

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