Podcast Summary: My Therapist Ghosted Me – MTGM EXTRA! "He might like to try pegging..."

Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Date: October 29, 2025
Episode Length: ~25 minutes

Overview

This bonus episode of "My Therapist Ghosted Me" is an energetic mix of celebrity encounters, real talk about modern romance and sex, and the duo’s trademark irreverence. A hilariously honest listener email about a pegging mishap becomes the centerpiece, with Vogue and Joanne offering empathy, solidarity, and a lot of laughter.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Kardashian Encounters & Celebrity Worship

(00:10 – 15:00)

• Vogue’s Red Carpet Experience with Kim Kardashian

  • Vogue describes her excitement about interviewing Kim Kardashian for Disney, calling her “my idol” and likening her fame to that of “a hot Jesus” (05:01).
  • She details how everyone at the premiere collectively froze when Kim entered:

    “It was like everyone just… held their breath and ever—like, everybody just turned around and stopped what they were doing... I have never seen it with anyone else.” (04:25)

  • Both hosts discuss the realities of beauty filters and celebrity appearances, playfully questioning if Vogue’s own perfect skin on camera is “miraculous” or just good old digital trickery.
  • Joanne reflects on her aversion to red carpets:

    “No, I’m not a red carpet, girly... They just—I don’t like them.” (04:02)

• Kris Jenner’s Facelift

  • Vogue saw Kris Jenner at the same event and assures listeners that rumors about Kris's “real” facelift looks are untrue:

    “She didn’t have wrinkles... her face was taut.” (05:57)

  • Side commentary on the spectacle of celebrity, with praises for Kim's glam presence and the surreal levels of lighting at Hollywood events.

2. Lily Allen’s Breakup Album & Male Vulnerability

(11:33 – 16:20)

• Lily Allen as Avenger

  • Joanne shares her admiration for Lily Allen’s new album about her marriage breakdown, noting its catharsis and honesty:

    “People are saying it’s like a master class. ...Lily, fire. Chef’s kiss. It’s fantastic.” (12:43)

  • The hosts discuss different ways women process and communicate about breakups in public, with envy for Lily’s ability to ‘speak her truth’ openly.

• Describing Success as Revenge

  • Vogue:

    “I always think success is great revenge as well.” (14:14)

  • Both agree that Allen’s ability to channel her breakup into art is admirable, with Joanne wishing she could be as open.

3. Listener Email: The Pegging Adventure

(16:20 – 25:02)

• Email Recap

  • A listener shares a story about her boyfriend revealing a pegging fantasy. Despite initial nerves, she orders the gear and gives it a go, resulting in a sex mishap involving self-tanner rather than lube. The story culminates in a comically disastrous but ultimately bonding experience for the couple.

• Hosts’ Reaction & Discussion

  • Immediate supportive laughter and honesty:

    Joanne: “Yeah, fine.” (16:49) Vogue: “Amazon bless them. Next day delivery, emergency packing done.” (17:24)

  • The full tale is recounted, with details such as the exhaustion of thrusting (“Turns out the male hip thrust is not something the female pelvis is built for.” – 18:32), and the chaotic aftermath in the bathroom, described with colorful and hilarious imagery.

• Notable Quotes

  • On pegging openness:

    “Fair play to you for doing the pegging. Fair play yourself in the back.” – Vogue (22:45)

  • Joanne’s take:

    “Yeah, yeah, I mean, it is kind to take people’s needs on like that, you know?” (22:46) “If someone I was madly in love with was like, I’m like, yeah. I’m not going to write anything off.” (23:02)

  • On sexual experimentation:

    Joanne: “Different strokes, different folks.” (24:02) Vogue: “What a sexual deviant you are. I love that for you.” (23:30)

• Taboo-Busting Fun

  • Hosts stress pegging is "more common than we think," debunking stigmas, and challenge preconceptions about straight male sexuality:

    “He’s not gay. I’m a woman. He just likes to get pegged. It doesn’t mean he’s gay.” – Joanne paraphrasing a viral couple (24:00)

  • Playful warnings not to use face mist internally:

    “I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I feel like we have to issue a warning. Don’t insert Bare by Vogue face mist into yourself. Please don’t do that.” – Guest (21:20)

  • The hosts joke about sending the listener a replacement bottle of tan.

Notable Moments & Quotes (with Timestamps)

• Kim as “Hot Jesus”
  “She’s kind of like a hot Jesus, isn’t she?” – Joanne (05:01)

• The Power of Kim “You can’t cancel Kim Kardashian.” – Vogue (05:34)

• Sexual Openness “I would...If someone I was madly in love with was like...I’m not going to write anything off. Do you know what I mean? And you can tan my back while we’re at it.” – Joanne (23:02)

• On the Pegging Mishap “Turns out the male hip thrust is not something the female pelvis is built for.” (18:32)

• Pegging as Power “What a sexual deviant you are. I love that for you.” – Vogue (23:30)

Important Timestamps

• Red Carpet/Kim Kardashian Stories: 00:10 – 11:00
• Lily Allen & Relationship Talk: 11:33 – 16:20
• Pegging Listener Email Narrative: 16:20 – 25:02

Tone & Format

The episode is conversational, unfiltered, supportive, and uproariously funny. Vogue and Joanne blend personal anecdotes with candid responses, making listeners feel like they’re at the pub with two wickedly honest pals who refuse to judge.

TL;DR

Come for the stories of glitz and celebrity madness, stay for the radically honest, non-judgemental chat about sexual adventure and vulnerability—including one of the best listener emails ever: a pegging story gone (comically) awry thanks to tanning lotion, not lube. The hosts remind us: don’t knock it ’til you’ve tried it, communicate openly, and it’s okay to laugh at yourself and life’s messier moments.

Closing Quote:
“I think pegging is actually more common than we think it is. ...Different strokes, different folks!” – Joanne (24:02)