MTGM EXTRA! "I turn the corner and BOOM..."

Summary

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Podcast Summary – MTGM EXTRA! "I turn the corner and BOOM..."

Podcast: My Therapist Ghosted Me
Episode Date: April 15, 2026
Hosts: Vogue Williams, Joanne McNally
Guest/Producer: Joe Atiwell

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Episode Overview

This lively bonus episode of My Therapist Ghosted Me finds Vogue, Joanne, and Joe in classic form, discussing everything from the madness and expense of Coachella, to celebrity culture, body image pressures, and viral moments in public. In their usual unfiltered, witty style, the trio delivers stories, sharp commentary, and plenty of laugh-out-loud moments—peppered with honest reflections on fame, cancel culture, and the peculiarity of being (and being around) women in the spotlight.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Why They're Not at Coachella

• FOMO and Age: The trio discusses their lack of interest in attending Coachella despite the hype, citing age and not feeling "attractive enough" amidst the influencer and celebrity crowd.
  • "The main reason is because we're 40 years of age, but sure, come." – Joanne (00:53)
  • "We would have to wear bags over our heads…" – Vogue (01:39)
• Influencer Olympics: Coachella is dubbed the "Influencer Olympics" (02:08), with commentary on fashion trends and the pressure to appear Insta-ready.
• Fashion Contrasts: Joanne compares LA's boho-cowgirl style with Melbourne's darker, chic vibe (02:34), reflecting on how cities impose different ‘uniforms.'

2. Musical Moments and Celebrity News

• Coachella Performances: They talk about wanting to see artists like Moby, and skepticism about Justin Bieber’s performance style.
  • "Justin Bieber's getting a bit of abuse… you're literally getting paid $10 million and you're sitting there in a crusty old hoodie playing off your YouTube." – Vogue (03:16)
• Moby in Dublin: Joe fact-checks that Moby will perform at the Irish Museum of Modern Art (IMMA) on August 21, 2026 (04:12).

3. Cancel Culture and Online Backlash

• Sabrina Carpenter Incident: The hosts break down the viral moment where Carpenter received backlash for calling out an audience member’s zaghrouta (an Arabic celebratory vocalization), examining the intensity of online criticism.
  • "She can't figure it out. But I just feel like people are always so desperate to try... calling her racist online. It's like, she's not being—she just—she didn’t hear properly." – Vogue (04:58)

4. Body Image, Paparazzi, and Judgement

• Being Photographed: Vogue recounts invasive paparazzi shots while paddleboarding, musing about body scrutiny and the double standards celebrities face (09:33; 10:32).
  • "I saw a picture of me the day I was like, oh, my God. It literally... you can see my insides in that picture. It's so invasive." – Vogue (10:00)
• Public Commentary: The hosts reflect on women's harsh treatment of each other online, especially regarding postpartum bodies, and the toxic cycle of "snap back" expectations (11:36; 13:55).
  • "Women are poisoned by our own culture... our big social offering has always been your body." – Joanne (11:36)
  • "You can't win..." – Vogue on public reaction to her postpartum body (13:55)
• Fitness and Postpartum Realities: Vogue and Joanne discuss differing body types and the unfairness of judging women on their post-pregnancy bodies, highlighting individual factors like fitness habits and genetics (14:24–15:56).

5. Festival Economics—Why Coachella Isn’t Worth It

• Ticket Prices: The cost to attend Coachella is dissected, from $40,000 for private suites to over $650 for standard passes, camping, and additional hassles (16:44–17:53).
  • "A premium single day suite, $40,000..." – Vogue (16:44)
  • "Where am I sleeping? In the bin." – Joanne (18:06)
• Logistics and Reality Checks: The group jokes about festival experiences versus more local, affordable options like Electric Picnic.

6. Celebrity News: Celine Dion and Chronic Illness

• Celine’s announced Paris residency sparks concern given her diagnosis of stiff person syndrome. Joe shares updates that Dion’s intensive therapy is what enables her continued performance (19:33–21:11).

7. Listener Story: The Public Dildo Debacle

• A listener recounts the horror of accidentally blasting a podcast segment about sex toys near a group of elderly country folk (22:01–23:13).
  • "Before I can react, Juan's voice blares out here just because you have a wardrobe full of sex dolls..." – Listener email (22:01)

8. Meta-Podcast Musings: Branding, Humor and Intelligence

• Joanne suggests the show needs a clever tagline, inspired by another podcast. They joke about ChatGPT helping out and reflect on balancing intelligence with “dumb humor.”
  • "I think we are smart women... with a slightly juvenile sense of humor." – Joanne (25:55)
• Much banter about whether they’re “performatively thick” and Joe’s actual intelligence.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (With Timestamps)

• Joanne: "We would have to wear bags over our heads." (01:39)
• Vogue: "I have since grown a beard from being away. I have a pigmentation beard." (01:48)
• Joanne: "Too many hot people in one place... I saw to, like, a literary festival in Mullingar, you know what I mean? And then I think I thrive." (01:58)
• Vogue: "Someone called it the Influencer Olympics." (02:08)
• Joanne: "Melbourne... the style is, like, very... chic. What would you call it? Black fashion." (02:34)
• Vogue: "[Justin Bieber]... You're literally getting paid $10 million and you're sitting there in a crusty old hoodie playing off your YouTube." (03:16)
• Vogue: "[Sabrina Carpenter] had to come out and do a whole post... you can be educated about something, but you don't need to be educated about absolutely everything." (05:15)
• Joanne: "Women are poisoned by our own culture... we are so brainwashed that we're doing it to each other." (13:36)
• Vogue: "You just can't win." (13:55)
• Joanne: "I can't expect to bounce back when I put no work in previously to getting pregnant." (15:26)
• Joe (fact-check): "Friday 21st August, 2026 at IMMA." (04:12)
• Listener email: "Juan's voice blares out here just because you have a wardrobe full of sex dolls..." (22:01)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• Why Coachella isn't for them – 00:53 to 03:13
• Coachella lineup, Moby & Bieber – 03:13 to 04:17
• Coachella cultural critiques and Sabrina Carpenter story – 04:21 to 07:30
• Body image, paparazzi stories, culture of criticism – 09:33 to 15:56
• Coachella price breakdown and festival logistics – 16:44 to 19:18
• Celine Dion Paris residency and health conditions – 19:33 to 21:25
• Hilarious listener story: podcast embarrassment – 22:01 to 23:13
• Wrap-up on podcast image, branding, and personalities – 24:46 to 26:45

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Tone & Style

The episode is characteristically candid, irreverent, and supportive, with the hosts mixing sharp wit, honest admissions, and genuine concern about the pressures of celebrity, womanhood, and modern media culture. They blend humor with insightful commentary on real societal challenges, always with plenty of playful teasing among themselves and Joe.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a perfect snapshot of what My Therapist Ghosted Me does best: combining hilarious real-life stories, sharp societal observations, and riotous banter, all wrapped in an atmosphere of friendship and unfiltered honesty.

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Transcript

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[Vogue Williams]

I saw a picture of me the day I was like, oh, my God. It literally. You can literally see my insides in that picture. It's so invasive. Like, I was on a paddle board

[Joanne McNally]

while you were talking. I was just. I just did a Rubax cube with my feet.

[Vogue Williams]

One of the reasons we're not going to go to Coachella. Listen to these prices, right?

[Joanne McNally]

The main reason is because we're 40 years of age, but sure, come.

[Vogue Williams]

Hello, and welcome to the bonus episode of My Therapist, Ghost of Me with Me, Vogue Williams, Joanne McNally, and Joe Atiwell. Okay, girls and boys, we didn't go to Coachella again. And you know what?

[Joanne McNally]

There's stuff that you look at and you're like, oh, fomo, yolo, whatever. What's it called?

[Vogue Williams]

Fomo.

[Joe Atiwell]

It's fomo. Fomo.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. Our generation is. We just say, I'd like to be there. We don't abbreviate, but I have no interest. It's like, do you know what I will say? And I'm just. I just don't feel attractive enough to go. I think it's just like. And it's just tits and teeth and

[Vogue Williams]

we would have to wear bags over our heads.

[Joanne McNally]

You. You. I know you don't like when I call out the fact that you are attractive, but you are. Now, me and Joe couldn't go, well,

[Vogue Williams]

Joanne, you'll be glad to hear that I have since grown a beard from being away. I have a pigmentation beard. So I will send you a picture of that later and you'll see why I can't go to Coachella anyway.

[Joanne McNally]

Too many hot people in one place. And I just think for morale, I just. I just don't want to go. I saw to, like, a literary festival in Mullingar, you know what I mean? And then I think I thrive.

[Vogue Williams]

Someone called it the Influencer Olympics.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Like, now, in fairness, the people, the influencers that are going are absolutely smashing it. And they look great. They have all these outfits sorted. But I. I feel like. And it was like, looking at the Coachella fashion, it's all boho. It's all like. Remember back in the day when she was.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

They're all kind of. It's almost like a uniform that they're all wearing the same kind of thing.

[Joanne McNally]

When I was in LA recently, that's the vibe. So I was looking. I was kind of shopping. I was in the vintage shops and I was doing the secondhand shopping thing, and I was like, oh, I would be a cowgirl within a week here. That's the style. It's the vibe. So. And, like, weirdly, when in Melbourne, I was like, the style is, like, very, like, dark sunglasses, dark clothes. It's quite, like, kind of chic. Like. What would you call it? I don't know what. I don't know what the term for it is. Black. Black fashion, like, kind of. Whereas Coachella, L.A. it's like coin belts, cowboy boots.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, that's what.

[Joanne McNally]

They're really frilly waistcoats. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

They do. They do actually have some really good artists, like the Ice. I was watching Moby. Oh, my God. And he had this incredible singer with him, and it was just like, I'd love to have seen Moby, but then Justin Bieber's getting a bit of abuse because he was sitting there playing off his YouTube, which people were like, okay, you're literally getting paid $10 million and you're sitting there in a crusty old hoodie playing off your YouTube. But supposedly he sold his music catalog in 2018. That's why he can't pay any of his old songs. So that's why he's kind of doing all that new jazz.

[Joanne McNally]

Do you know that Moby's doing a gig in Ireland? Did you hear about this?

[Vogue Williams]

Shut up. When? Yeah, dying to go.

[Joanne McNally]

Joe, can you fact check that for me, please? I'm pretty sure Moby is doing the Tree Arena. No, no, no. He's doing some tiny gallery gig in. In for.

[Vogue Williams]

God. I'd love to go see Moby. If you saw a. Go watch his Coachella said it was unbelievable.

[Joanne McNally]

Really?

[Joe Atiwell]

Friday 21st August, 2026 at IMMA.

[Joanne McNally]

Im.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my God.

[Joanne McNally]

It's the Irish Modern Art Museum.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah. Did you see that whole thing with Sabrina Carpenter? She got a bit of a. Basically, she was being called culturally insensitive because somebody. There's a. There's a sound called Zagru. I'm probably not saying it right. Which then it's from it's heard across large gatherings in Arabian cultures. She heard it and she stopped her set and said, who did that? And then some girls. Like, it was me. And then she was like, I don't like it. And then the farm was like, it's my culture. And she's like, that's your culture? It sounded like yodeling. This is weird.

[Joanne McNally]

And whatever.

[Vogue Williams]

People had a load of backlash on her online. And it's like she's sitting on stage.

[Joanne McNally]

Stop.

[Vogue Williams]

Like 100,000 people watching her. And she just heard a noise. She. She can't figure it out. But I just feel like people are always so desperate to try. Like. Like there's a load of people now calling her racist online. It's like, she's not being. She just. She didn hear properly.

[Joanne McNally]

Come on. Like, what?

[Vogue Williams]

Like. But she had to come out. She had to come out and do a whole post and stuff about it. And it's just like, I just feel like you can be educated about something, but you don't need to be educated about absolutely everything. I remember I was sitting in. I was sitting in a TV studio and someone was like, oh, this person's died. And I was like, oh, who's that? And they were like. And they turned around.

[Joanne McNally]

You tell me this. I remember this.

[Vogue Williams]

This was so mean. Yeah. They were like, this person died. I was like, oh, who's that? And she was like, she was turned around. She goes, don't ever let that come out of your mouth again. And I was like, pardon? And she's like, don't ever say something so stupid again. And I was just like, okay. And I just kind of turned away. But I was like, how Rudy, Like, I want you to know absolutely everything about okay, who's aiming devil era. Then you tell me who. Yeah, I know, I know.

[Joanne McNally]

You're one.

[Vogue Williams]

Everything about you.

[Joanne McNally]

You don't know that was me. You tell me about that at the time. And I was like, no, no, no. That's a. That's a weird.

[Vogue Williams]

I know. But I kind of wish I'd stuck up for myself. But you know when you're just like so shocked by the weirdest. Oh, my God.

[Joanne McNally]

I also think on stage with the Sabrina yodeling situation, like, when you are on stage, you've like a second, like a split second to make decisions about things and like, you're not there. Like, do you remember that? Do you remember the time you're one came up between the sse and tell me how my period.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, Jesus. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

And I had a split second at the sse. It's like, it's an arena venue. Like it's a off big ass venue. So there's a lot of eyes on you, so. Which means you've even shorter time to make decisions because you don't want to like stop the flow of what's happening. And she was like, you've got your period. And I looked down, I couldn't see it and basically was like, told her to go away and. And then I was getting dogs be like, how dare you. Like, she was a woman to woman. She was trying to support you. And I was like, I didn't, I, I didn't know I had it. She was app. She was. In fairness here, we've actually spoken since. But like, you know, she had a couple of drinks on board. As I say, split decisions. So like Sabrina, I wouldn't be, you know, I would have sympathy for her in that situation. And people are so, they're just so quick to just, they're so quick to think the worst of people. They're just so.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh yeah. But people love that they, People love when somebody is being. And I always feel like it's somebody that's getting, that's getting torn down. But like her set was supposedly amazing and she did five outfit changes and Justin only sat there in a, in a hoodie playing his YouTubes.

[Joanne McNally]

Someone posted a photo of Sabrina Carpenter the other day and there she. Because she's so beautiful and they're like, there's no way a man was involved in this. This. Her mother got pregnant via vibrator and it made me laugh and laugh and laugh. She is so pretty.

[Vogue Williams]

Amazing.

[Joanne McNally]

She's so pretty. And you know what I will say, and I know we talk. Talk about Barry Cogan a lot. I feel I, I feel kind of bad for Barry at the moment. I think he's going through a bit of a hard time. Joe, have you heard Barry talking about.

[Vogue Williams]

I think, yeah. Slagging off the way he looks.

[Joanne McNally]

People just like, yeah.

[Joe Atiwell]

He used to be with Sabrina, didn't he? For com.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, they were together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And. And he's starring in the new Beatles film. So like there's, there's photos of him floating around kind of in a very.

[Joe Atiwell]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Like 60s kind of look and stuff. But he has come out and said that he's getting so much abuse for how he looks that it's making it really hard for him to leave the house and stuff. I'm like, I don't know. And I think, do you know what I. When someone when someone in his position actually says that, my heart melts for them because I'm sure loads of people feel it and think it, but they're, they're not saying it. But to have it have such an impact on your mental wellness to actually say it. Barry, for what it's worth, we think you're savage, stunning and amazing and I. I'd ride you in a second.

[Vogue Williams]

No, she would, she would.

[Joanne McNally]

Barry's like, this is Juan. This is the last thing I want to hear.

[Vogue Williams]

He's like, can I come and hang out with you guys?

[Joanne McNally]

He's like, I'd rather gargle. S1. I've just stopped hooking up with Sabrina Carpenter, but thanks, thanks, thanks for the info.

[Vogue Williams]

I, I reckon, I reckon, I reckon Barry, although he's probably getting slagged off, is doing pretty well for himself. But I just think that, like, like, I, I personally have just become really used to it. Like, people always slagging off some. I just, it's just all the time. It's just even now, being on holidays over here, it's like, there, there's A P. There's P.S. on the island because, like, there's proper famous people here. Like, there's Paul McCartney and stuff like that. So they're going around. I'm like, they'll just get the, they'll get the tail end of us. But, like, I mean, I saw a picture of me the day I was like, oh, my God. It literally. You can literally see my insides in that picture. It's so invasive. Like, I saw a paddle board. Oh, my.

[Joanne McNally]

It is you up skirted. What did they see?

[Vogue Williams]

I was on a paddle board in my bikini and it is literally like, like there is. Thank God I've had laser because, like, you would see. Absolutely.

[Joanne McNally]

Sorry, I've said this to.

[Vogue Williams]

Right.

[Joanne McNally]

I've said this before and I said it again. You need to start wearing knickers on that paddle board. It's outrageous. You can't be going out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're going to get the shot. They're going to get the shot.

[Vogue Williams]

I, I pretty much look naked in there. Jesus Christ.

[Joanne McNally]

If I was, if I was papped on a beach, I genuinely think I need to be sectioned for three months.

[Vogue Williams]

Do you know, it's, you know what's interesting about us and I've noticed it this time around. Like, I, like, I'm not. I haven't put on a load of weight. I've put on a few kilos. I have put on a few kilos, which is totally.

[Joanne McNally]

Which we support. I think you look great. I think you look better actually. Joe said he'd actually get up on you now and for years he said he wouldn't.

[Vogue Williams]

But like when I'm, when I'm like when I've been away before, people are like, look at her body, look at her thighs. Look at this about her, she's disgusting. Look at her cellulite. Look at this. And this time around the way. And it's actually slightly nicer because I put on a bit of weight and I think that people feel more comfortable seeing you like that or something. Well, certainly the people that are commenting because the comments are nicer. Oh, she's put on a bit of weight, she looks better. But like, yeah, it's just, it's such a, it's such a weird.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, women, we, we, we are women are poisoned by our own culture. So like that is so. I've thought about this loads about general, various things and it's, there's a general consensus within the female community of like, whoa, whoa, whoa. If I've had to step in line and abide by these cultural rails for femininity, it really bothers me if someone else isn't doing it. Also there's a lot of women have a lot of hang ups about bodies and stuff because we've always been that like, that's been our kind of. Our big social offering has always been your body, you know.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Like it's always been so it's, it's such, it's very messy territory. Very messy territory. And I don't think it brings out the best in us. And as a community. I had a friend of mine who was, I mean, for want of a better term, trolling women who had had babies but had kind of snapped back in inverted commas and my friend hadn't snapped back, whatever the fuck that means. Like who? You know, so few women do and whatever. And she was really upset, very triggered and very angry at the women who were posting photos and, and she was kind of going in on them in, in with like she was being me, like kind of mean to them. And I spoke to her about it and I was like, what, what's going on? She was like, it just really bothers me because I haven't done it and I think it puts like an awful pressure on women. And I was like, I, I totally understand where you're coming from in the same breath. Don't be part of the problem by, don't be part of the problem by commenting on us like Just block or ignore if you can find it within yourself. But she was. And like I say she, she is one of the kindest, soundest people I know. But she could not contain herself because she feels that she's being judged, there's pressure coming towards her and there's just so much pressure and so much judgment around women's bodies. Whereas look at Joe sitting there, not a fucking bother on him. No, men don't have the same. They do not. It's just not the same. It's not the same. And the really something is that women, we are so brainwashed that we're doing it to each other. That's such, that's the sad part of us.

[Vogue Williams]

But you know the snap back thing, I remember when I had had the babies and like my body did just go back but like the, the like the stuff that I would see online about me because that happened, I was just like, you just can't win. Like, well, like what am I supposed to do if that's like I'm violently ill when I'm pregnant so that for that one reason I don't put on a huge amount of weight because I'm sick the whole time and then, and then like this is, I train as well because it makes you feel better.

[Joanne McNally]

But like so this, this was going to say. And this is a very interesting conversation and so with you, who you are like a very, you're very fitness focused. Right. Which is admirable.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

And I, I could only. I. I'd love to have an ounce of it. So if you train every day, put the work in every day that I couldn't be arse doing that you do, then you are going to bounce back when you are postpartum and that's because there's been a lot of work put in before that. So you shouldn't be made feel about yourself because your body and a verticom is bounced back because I don't really know, like, like it's so subjective, whatever that means. But the reason is because you train every, you're training every day. So like yeah, Grant, you deserve, you deserve it, you deserve it.

[Vogue Williams]

But it's.

[Joanne McNally]

I don't train every day. If I got pregnant when I say I'd be in a mew mew for three years.

[Vogue Williams]

But there's also nothing wrong and that's fine. Exactly.

[Joanne McNally]

I can't expect, I can't expect to bounce back when I put no work in previously to getting pregnant. Like that's not.

[Vogue Williams]

But I also, but I do also think it's It's a certain body type as well. No, no, there is, there is that because, Joanne, I'm so tall and my torso is so long that like when I, when I was pregnant with, with the kids, like, I didn't look as big either because I'm so long and there's so much more of me.

[Joanne McNally]

You shouldn't be embarrassed or ashamed about the fact that your body and inverted commas bounces back after pregnancy because you are training like a motherfucker before you're pregnant. And that's what it is.

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[Vogue Williams]

You know what? One of the reasons we're not going to go to Coachella. Listen to these prices, right? This is what.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, I, I say the, the main reason is because we're 40 years of age, but sure, go on.

[Vogue Williams]

Joanne, there's nothing, Listen, age is nothing but a number, okay? And also you are getting dressed up so nicely for three.

[Joanne McNally]

It is a cow. Like I can't be in that heat in a pair cowboy boots. I would melt.

[Vogue Williams]

And then freezing.

[Joanne McNally]

Spinning class.

[Vogue Williams]

No, that and then freezing at night. And we wouldn't really be ours getting. Having to look nice for three days in a row. But the real reason we wouldn't go is because everything costs so much. So a single, a premium single day suite, $40,000. You get your own suite, comfortable.

[Joanne McNally]

No.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Hold on. What?

[Vogue Williams]

An ultra premium weekend suite suite, $75,000. This is a three day access for your entire group, which is 10 to 20 people. A dedicated private suite near a main stage at main stage. And like you get real beds and air conditioning. But then I was like, what does like a normal person. 75,000.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. What's the, what are the plab costs? Give me the plab cost.

[Vogue Williams]

So a three day pass for Friday, Saturday and Sunday can be 550 to $650. Which actually for a week, like that's not too, like, how much is that?

[Joanne McNally]

Where am I sleeping? In the bin. Where am I sleeping?

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, no, you're in the bin.

[Joanne McNally]

So I'm sleeping in your rhino. Waking up, having a rhino cake for breakfast for 500 quid. Okay.

[Vogue Williams]

Good to know you're gonna turn into that man in Berghain who lies at the urinals so everyone pisses on him.

[Joanne McNally]

He's not in the arena. He's onto the Grace. I've met him.

[Vogue Williams]

Go on camping. 160. But you've got to get your own food, drinks. The days are sometimes 40 degrees. Joanne, can you imagine you in a 40 degree heat?

[Joanne McNally]

Sorry, $160 a night camping.

[Vogue Williams]

No, just I think for the weekend.

[Joanne McNally]

Sorry. That's really good value.

[Joe Atiwell]

No, that was on top of the ticket though, because that's. You've already paid 650 for your ticket, which is. That's so a. £480. £100. More expensive than glasses.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, I don't think. Is it 100 actually. Don't think that's that bad. Like. I don't think that's that bad, to be honest.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, but this. That way you could be in 12 hours of traffic. You'll be walking like 30,000 steps a day.

[Joanne McNally]

Like, I would rather.

[Vogue Williams]

I would say gargle glass.

[Joanne McNally]

I'm not going. I'm just saying I don't think that's that extreme of a cost really, to be honest.

[Vogue Williams]

For Coachella, I would just say, if you're thinking of going to Coachella, why don't you save your money and go to Electric Picnic 3 Day Festival Ireland. Not like crazy prices.

[Joanne McNally]

Go and see the Coronas, Mary Black.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, perfect.

[Joanne McNally]

Anya.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, Anya. You wish. Oh my God.

[Joanne McNally]

I know.

[Vogue Williams]

If there was any. Did you see Celine Dion is back on tour? Celine Dion,

[Joanne McNally]

Okay.

[Vogue Williams]

We have to go to Paris.

[Joanne McNally]

We're going to. She's got a residency. She's going to fall Adele in Paris. Joe, fact check this for me, please.

[Joe Atiwell]

Okay?

[Joanne McNally]

And I want no shade because I'm just asking questions because I know Celine has a very Ray Bead fan base and I am a huge Celine fan. In fact, every night before I do Prosecco Express, I used to listen to.

[Vogue Williams]

We. We used to. What is it again?

[Joanne McNally]

What was the song I used to listen to every night to get me

[Joe Atiwell]

ready to give them back to me now?

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, there you go. Who. Who? Originally Meatloaf wanted that song and they said no, they're giving it to Celine. Anyway, my point is she now has a disease called paralysis.

[Vogue Williams]

Something stiff. Stiff person syndrome.

[Joanne McNally]

Stiff person syndrome. Very serious. I watched some stuff about it. It looks horrible. Like awful. So how in God's name is she doing a residency in Paris?

[Vogue Williams]

I'm not here to ask questions. I'M just here to buy the tickets. To be honest with you. I'm not missing Celine in Paris.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, I was, you know. I wish you. I went to LA to go and see Adele. Now I was. I was doing a show there anyway, but I went to LA to see Adele and she rang in sick.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh God.

[Joanne McNally]

On the day.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh God.

[Joanne McNally]

What she said. What are we. What are we saying, Joe?

[Joe Atiwell]

Through intensive therapy she has managed. She can manage her stiff person syndrome condition. It is incurable, but she has lots and lots of it just says intensive therapy and that enables her to do

[Joanne McNally]

the shows because I've seen footage of her having like an episode of her illness and it is so hard. It's so grim. It is so grim. Would we go to Paris?

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, we're obviously going to Paris. It's literally not the train. My mind.

[Joanne McNally]

We can get the dart to Paris. Joe,

[Vogue Williams]

long time listener, recently saw Joanne the Apollo. Unreal. Changed my life. Spiritual, spiritually healed. Etc.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, thank you.

[Vogue Williams]

I live in rural Hertfordshire, so my runs are basically me, a few sheep and the looming threat of a tractor taking me out. I refuse to wear headphones because I like to hear my death approaching. So I listen to the pod outside

[Joanne McNally]

quietly on her phone, just banging out of your pocket.

[Vogue Williams]

Okay, sometimes I do that. No, I. I'll hold it up to my head, ready to mute if I encounter civilization. Now, encounter civilization usually means one confused cow. Not today. I'm trotting along giggling to myself like I fully lost the plot when I turn a corner and boom. A full gathering of about seven people age 70 plus, just standing there having a wholesome countryside chat. Before I can re. React, Juan's voice blares out here just because you have a wardrobe full of sex dolls. I panic. I go to turn it down, but instead I turn it up, at which point one of you wagons chimes in as clear as day, talking about a bag full of dildos.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh my God, yes.

[Vogue Williams]

Time stops. One woman gasps. I make eye contact with a man who has absolutely never heard the word dildo before and now has to process it along with me in silence. Anyway, I've retired from running. I'll be relocating and I assume there's now a parish meeting. You write me. Love the part, though. 10 out of 10 changed my life. Ruined my reputation.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, you know what I got? I've had several DMS from women similar to that who their AirPods have disconnected or they've run out of battery or something. And then something we say which is like just gross, desperate and out of context. Yeah. Has embarrassed them. So we apologize, but you gotta listen privately. It's a private experience.

[Vogue Williams]

And please don't. Your kids. Please don't do it in front of your kids.

[Joanne McNally]

Also, Joe, I have to ask. I meant to ask it. There's a company that sent me in a load of dildos. Well, yes, folk, but I was trying to come up with a more discreet term.

[Vogue Williams]

No, no, no. They censor. Oh, no, I can't.

[Joanne McNally]

Sexy sticks. Sexy sticks, yes.

[Joe Atiwell]

Batons.

[Vogue Williams]

Sexy. A sexy stick, yeah. Juan, you should start a company. You should start a company. Sexy sticks dot com. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

And they. And God love them, they keep asking me, have you got them yet? And I'm like, I'm so sorry. I haven't seen Joe physically in so long, because I know Joe has the sexy stick. So I apologize to the company.

[Vogue Williams]

You'll know when she has the sexy stick. She'll be really happy. You'll see it in her face.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, gosh. Anyway, like we say, you're not the first woman that you've kind of let the pod air and being embarrassed. So, yeah, we would recommend airport.

[Vogue Williams]

You won't be the last. You won't be the last.

[Joanne McNally]

It won't be the last. Remember the last question. We're very low rent. You need to understand that.

[Vogue Williams]

Speak.

[Joanne McNally]

Very low ranch.

[Vogue Williams]

Excuse you.

[Joanne McNally]

So I meant to say to you Vogue. I did, when I was in Australia, the Shameless podcast.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, I love that. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Yes. So shameless. And so I thought that we needed to work on a little intro, because their intro is the podcast for smart women who love dumb stuff. And I was like, that's. I mean, without kind of blowing my own trumpet. I do think I have some intelligence, but I love dumb. And I was like, I think we could do with a little kind of blurb as an intro. So it's something we should work on. I might actually put into ChatGPT.

[Joe Atiwell]

Write us down some ideas.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

I love how we. I love how we circle back all the time. Yeah.

[Joe Atiwell]

This is something that will definitely get done.

[Vogue Williams]

Joanne will send us all an email. Just circling back on this. It'll be from 2019. Just circling back, guys, I hope this

[Joanne McNally]

email never finds you, because I'm dead. Thank you. I. I just thought it'd be nice to have a blurb. And we are, I feel. And maybe I'm doing a. Doing us a disservice folk, but I. I think we are smart women.

[Vogue Williams]

Huh.

[Joanne McNally]

With a slightly juvenile sense of humor.

[Joe Atiwell]

Only slightly, though.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

I. We're not always like, this. We. Can we hold it together?

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, trust me, girls. Like, when we're not on here, we're reading. We're coloring in, like, oh, my God, a lot. There's a lot going on. Like, we're doing Sudoku.

[Vogue Williams]

Excuse me. I'm judging a fiction prize, John. I am doing a lot of reading while I'm away. I am. I am judging a fiction prize over here, girls. And I. I've tried to buy three of the books. I can't get them. But I'm gonna. I'm gonna have the culture corner. Won't know what hit it when I finish.

[Joanne McNally]

I'm delighted for you.

[Vogue Williams]

Vogue, while you were five more to read.

[Joanne McNally]

While you were talking, I was just. I just did a Rubik's Cube with

[Vogue Williams]

my feet, so I. I saw that.

[Joanne McNally]

Thank you.

[Vogue Williams]

Well done.

[Joanne McNally]

We are Rain man vibes, but we just. We're performatively thick. Joe is just actually thick. Okay.

[Vogue Williams]

Okay, I'm gonna go. I've been sitting here for two hours. Two hours. I hope. I. Oh. Bye, everybody.

[Joanne McNally]

Joe, we love you. Joe. Don't look. Don't put that in, Joe. It sounds mean.

[Joe Atiwell]

We're putting that in because I didn't

[Vogue Williams]

hear what she said. Did she say something mean about you? I didn't hear it.

[Joe Atiwell]

Oh. It's just.

[Joanne McNally]

He knows we adore him. I said we. I said, sometimes we are performatively thick. I said, Joe was January thick. Yeah, but he knows more.

[Grainger Announcer]

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[Joanne McNally]

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