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This is a Global Player original podcast.
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Hello, and welcome to the bonus episode of My Therapist Ghost with me. With me, Vogue Williams and Juwan McNally. And Joe. I have no time to get my hair done, by the way, so please don't get your hair done for our job later.
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Well, Vogue, you know, you don't have to ask me twice not to get my hair done. That's absolutely fine. We're filming an ad for something later and we needed to get her, well, hair done, basically, because you're well able to do your own hair. I have this. I have this level of hair. Hair blindness. I would say to Lulu, where I think I've done my own hair. And then when I see the footage, it looks like I've had sex upside down in a bin. So I. Well, okay, so we're not. No one's doing her hair.
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You're not doing your hair. I won't do my hair now. This is my makeup, by the way, because we can't have makeup on because we're doing something for a really cool skin care thing, so we can't have makeup on. So not only can we not, I'm going to look like I've been decked.
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Okay, well, can I get my nails done just for morale.
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I'm not that happy about the nails, but because I can do a better job with my hair. You can get your nails done.
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I also haven't tanned, so I am.
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Gonna look like, don't show, don't come.
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I can't bear it.
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You know, I can't bear it.
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We'll both turn up in bits.
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Yeah, like, like, yeah, like the ad for us say how great we look.
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Yeah, please.
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Thank you. Please and thank you.
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It's like when I. I did some content for Trini before, and Trini, her team were like, she wants to come over and film some, like, skincare stuff with you. And I was like, oh, my God, I love that. Yes, Trini, please come over immediately. So anyway, I actually booked her makeup because that's what you do when you're doing content with people. You book hair makeup. But then, like that it was a really early, early call time. And because I'm a sloth, I said, you know what, let's cancel the hair makeup. I'll just do it myself because I don't have to get up at 5am and then the team messaged me. I think it was the night before or morning of maybe, I can't remember. And they're like, oh, like it' because it's because Trinity Does. Yeah, because Trinity does makeup as well, but because it was actually skincare. They're like, oh, you need to be kind of, you know. No, not like skin. Bare skinned and in your brassiere. And I was like, what?
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I mean, what bra did you wear?
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I'm in my 40s and you want me to be. You want me to be raw, dogging it on the Internet in my face.
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What bra did you wear? I'm more concerned by the bra.
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Oh, no, I wore a nice bra.
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Okay. Okay.
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Yeah, I want to. You owned it. I wore an appropriate bra. Yeah. You've just seen some of the very natural, they've kind of relaxed T shirt. Sorry, but I don't feel the need to wear lingerie for you.
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Look at my bra. Look at my boobs in this bra. Sorry. Joe, come on.
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Yeah, because you, you. Yeah, but you have to wear push up bras. So that's why you get nice bras.
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This is.
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I can feel a normal bra. So I'm just there for comfort.
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I have a full tit in here. There's a full tit before my little peck goes in that.
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I can hear them echoing when you hit them because they're empty inside. Anyway, I was more.
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I must have looked so. I must have looked so embarrassing. Breastfeeding. Like, what is. What's she doing? Yeah, in there.
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What's. Why is that man cosplaying? Breastfeeding. It's highly inappropriate. Someone called J.K. rowling immediately.
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Get her on the case. Speaking of J.K. rowling or Rowling, whatever she's called, Neil Wilson absolutely has a serious problem with Daniel Radcliffe. I don't know where it's come from. Harry Potter.
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Daniel's getting it. Is he?
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Oh, very against Potter saying that he wouldn't watch any trash or drivel that. That Daniel Radcliffe or Dakota Johnson was in. So it was both of them last night.
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Wow.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I saw her once. She's one of my celebrity spottings. I saw her and I saw her in la.
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Where was she looking? Is she gorgeous? In real. Like skin like glass.
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It was on a billboard. No, I'm kidding. I did actually see her. I saw. In real life. Yeah, there was. There was a. There was this gorgeous hotel near where I was staying that I wasn't staying in, but I would stay. I would go there for lunch every day. Cuz I did this amazing chicken chop salad and the most beautiful glass of white wine. And it was all kind of like silver dining. And they'd reveal your salad under one of Those, you know. No, wasn't Chateau Marmont cloche under a tada cloche? Yeah, Tada cloche. Yeah, one of those. So every day I'd go over for my ta da chopped chicken salad. It was delightful. I genuinely wasn't going there because I thought it was. I didn't understand it was for the schleps. But I. I just went there because of the amazing chopped chicken salad. Anyway, it turned out it was quite the celeb spot. And Dakota Johnson was in there one day and I was like, oh, my God. Because American. American celeb spotters. American celeb spots are. They're more intense. They just are. If I saw Daniel Radcliffe, I don't. I just be like, all right, Don, what's crack? Whereas with Dakota, you're like, oh, my God, it's. It's Dakota Johnson. She's. She's riding Chris Martin. Like, you know, there's all. And then there's all, you know, she's met Gwyneth Paltrow. There's all like the knock on effects going through your. Your filofax brain. And she looked just as beautiful. And at one point, I think she looked at me. She looked at me.
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That's true.
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But okay, I think she did. Well, I walked past her and stared at her. I think she looked back.
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She had no option.
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And there might have been a bit of fear in her eyes.
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Yeah, she felt threatened.
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Sorry. Okay, Joe. Yeah, fine. You sad it. You got there eventually.
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There are not many celebs I would want to chase down and have a look at. But like, I've been in some bars on the set. It's a very small island and I have been on some Barrett's at the same time as Leonardo DiCaprio and he spotted everywhere. Never clapped eyes on him. It really disappoints me. And when I go down the porch, I'm like looking everywhere like a meerkat, trying to find him.
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But the portal. I'd like to see him. Did you see he came out recently. He gets a terrible time because he. Because he likes to date young women. I don't, like all men like to date young women. I don't think there's anything unusual about. I think he just gets. He just gets. He just can. That's the problem. He's just able to do it. The rest of the men just want to do it and can't. He's. Whatever, leave him off. But I think it's funny, the whole too old for DiCaprio thing, when he turned 23. But he did an interview recently where he said he. Because he's in his 50s now, he turned 50 and he's 52 or isn't. Is he 52, Joe? No chance of fact checking there now. I think he turned 50 something and he said that inside he feels 32. So it never really leaves.
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He says inside it would be 51 this year.
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Thank you.
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51.
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32.
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I would say I feel about. I, I don't feel, I don't feel my. Well, I feel my age at the moment because I usually has not been sleeping and keeping me up all night. So I feel, I actually feel 50. I feel 52, but I usually feel about 29. 30.
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Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I think, I think you always feel about. Maybe I can't, I can't speak for everyone, but I think you always feel about 10 years younger than your age. Like I don't feel 16. Like, do you know what I mean? You know? You know, you know, you read these interviews with these elderly people in nursing homes and they're like, inside I still feel like I'm 19. I'm like, well, that's weird. You need to, you need to move along now. You need to mature.
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Age either.
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No, she can't do Anthon.
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Joanne McNally, guess what day it is today. And I know listeners, you're listening to it at a different time, but like the excitement. I. Oh yeah, like it was Christmas morning today. I. I cry. I went down to go for a run. My friend Ashley obviously listened to Oasis the whole way down. Then I of cried because I was like, oh my God, it's Oasis day. I didn't realize I was this into it.
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I. I didn't know either. Crying, you're. But that's cuz you're not sleeping. That's not because of Oasis.
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No, it is. And it's also. Maybe I'm a bit nervous about. No later. I don't know. I just don't know what's going to go down and stuff.
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So you guys might make up.
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We might make up. I don't know. But I just found out that we have a friend in common and that friend is very friendly with him and I never knew.
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Is that me? Who is that?
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You don't know Oasis? Okay. If you started going it with. No.
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Oh God.
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Didn't introduce me on purpose to annoy me. I would not be. I would. I will not do the pot. That's what I'll do.
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We're doing a bit of time travel here because this pod Comes out after the Oasis, when Oasis will be done and dusted in Dublin, Crow park will be back to its fieldy self. But Vogue is attending Oasis on the Saturday and I'm attending Oasis on the Sunday evening because I have a job on Sunday morning that I was like, I can't be hungover for Vogue. Are you just. Just checking. Test, test. Are you invited to the afterparty? No. Oh, okay.
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Oh, no.
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Oh, okay. Well, I'll let you know how it goes.
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Where is it? Well, how could I be invited to the afterparty when you're. The after party is going to be after the second show.
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No, no. If they have one after every show, do they? Yeah.
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Well, that's not true. I know.
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Hold on while I take a long sip of my evil coffee.
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I know somebody who works with.
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Are you invited? Are you invited? Are you invited? The Friends and Family bar.
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Oh, there is none. Try and get me a ticket to that right now. Get me a ticket? Who got you a ticket for that?
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I cannot reveal my sources, but let me say, I've. There's been a lot of blow jobs given, if it makes you feel any better.
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To be honest. I'm not just saying this because I love them so much. It's one of those situations where I wouldn't really want to be in the same room as them because I'd be. I'd be too nervous and embarrassed. I couldn't.
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I'm not going to the piss. I'm only taking the piss.
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Joanne, you hurt my feelings.
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Thank you.
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Do you know what?
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That's.
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What.
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Feeling.
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Gonna do absolutely nothing about that. No, but I would. They're the type of people. Because I do know somebody who is working with them and I wouldn't eat. Like, I wouldn't.
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It's.
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It's a really weird thing.
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You.
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You don't. I don't think that is. Well, maybe you do love somebody as much as I love them, but, like, do you know what I mean, Joe? Like, what are you gonna say to them? Like, what. What are you gonna say if you meet Liam Galler?
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Like, whatever you say.
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No, I just would rather not do it.
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Apparently there's all sorts going on at the Oasis. One person was telling a story Grace Campbell told me that I don't know, was that someone she knew or she'd heard it? I can't remember. During Champagne Supernova, they were like covered. Something kind of covered them. Like someone. It was like ash or something. And they're like, what is this? And there was a guy emptying his brother's ashes out. Yeah.
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No.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, during Champagne Supernova.
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I'd rather the pint of piss.
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You know what?
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I wouldn't mind ashes being put on me.
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I actually wouldn't mind. Ashley. I wouldn't mind ashes either. I'd be like, okay. It's kind of sentimental.
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You'd rather a pint of piss being poured on you? No way. I would not like a pint.
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Well, if you breathe in and it goes like in and in your lungs.
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Body to body. In the words of Samantha Mumba. Body to body.
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Yeah, yeah. Funk to funky.
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Do you know what I mean? We're all here to rock your body. Like you're. You're going to be out one day anyway. Joe.
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It's true.
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Get over it.
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You know, did you see that fella who spilled all those ashes on the plane and he was crying his eyes out. It was. And the air hostess. It was his mother. And the air hostess was trying to help, you know, but also, like, you probably wouldn't. Like, I wouldn't be dying. I wouldn't mind if someone poured ashes on me, but like, I wouldn't really be dying to get my hands in the mither. Do you know what I mean? I just don't think I was crying.
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What. What kind of vessel did he use that it was so easy to spill? Like. Come on.
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An urn. An urn. Just a regular urn.
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Oh, you wouldn't even. I. I've. There's more. Sealed sandwich bags like. Like, that's. I. I'd be suing. I'd be. I'd be. Well, I'd certainly be asking for answers from the earn company if it was that easy to spill someone's. Someone's ashes. What you do.
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No, no, no.
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Actually, do you know what you do? That's a simple fix. Hoover them up. Yeah. And then mg them back into the urn. Yeah.
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So empty the hoover, then fill the hoover up with the ashes with your loved one. For a bag with you, Grant.
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Yeah. Suction up your loved one into the belly of a Dyson.
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Crying about nothing.
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You tell them.
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I think it's just probably the shock. You're like, oh, my God, that's really disrespectful that I've just like. But some people leave, they're like. They just get left in a garage or something at least. Like you're being taken around the world. Be grateful.
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If you spill my ashes.
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And I don't think already sick about that. Oasis comments, by the way. You've really thrown me now for the rest of the pod. Put your best friends at Noel and Liam not telling me about it.
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Well, Jesus Christ.
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I don't. I don't want any more. I feel anxious.
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I felt bad and then took it back, but it is actually true.
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Listen, I'm trying to ruin Oasis day.
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This is like my Christmas. I don't even like Christmas day as much as I like today.
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Two months ago, you didn't even know who Noel gotta her was Magella.
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My au pair took me to see Oasis when I was 12. It was my first gig I ever went to. Get lost.
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Well, my first gig was Michael Jackson.
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Did you get to go and see Michael Jackson?
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Well, my Michael Jackson was playing an outdoor concert in Cork. In what age am I? It was probably 1933 and my parents drove to Cork and we sat on the wall outside the. Wherever it was with our. With our Michael Jackson headbands on. Because we obviously wouldn't. They couldn't. They weren't bringing us inside, but we sat outside. We could hear perfectly. Yeah, we were just two kids on a wall with our Michael Jackson headbands on.
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I mean, if you're going down just to listen and not seeing what you're not just.
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We did see him. I think there was screens and all. I do. I very much. My feeling was that I was very much involved. You know, I was part of the concert.
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Yeah. I don't. The 80s ever took me to concerts.
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No one paid for anything. It was the 80s. Everyone was. You know, everyone was on the hustle, on the. On the haggle. What I'm. What I was saying was V. If I. If you spill my ashes, I. And. And if you. If you need to use the Hoover up system, if you try and get Dora to do it, know that I will haunt you if you spill me. You're hoovering me up yourself.
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I don't want to use a Hoover. Well.
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Well, learn. Okay. There's something. There's something called YouTube.
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I've got my Dyson robot. I'll get him on the case.
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Oh, yeah, I was. I was gonna get one of those little robot guys. Just for company. Just for company, really.
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Come here to meet me and Amber. Right. I don't know if you've ever seen this because we're home now. We're talking. I'm still on the line of dead bodies, by the way, but we're home. When I saw this thing and told Amber about it. Basically a Tesla, right? It's got cameras all over the top of the car. So it shows you all around the car. Like if you're driving along the street, it will show you that someone's walking along the footpath. That kind of thing. Someone took the Tesla into a graveyard at night and there were bodies walking around the car.
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I've seen that video.
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So me, Amber and Lynn are going to the graveyard because Lynn has a Tesla and we're gonna go and see if we see any ghosts. But.
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And then what?
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Yeah, and then what? What?
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Scare the out of ourselves and leave. What else do you think we're gonna do? Imagine how funny that would be when we scare the absolute crap out of ourselves.
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Isn't it funny that people want to be scared? Like, isn't it? It's a funny thing to want to like to intentionally make yourself to freak yourself out. Keep us in the loop. Go live.
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Hi, Joanna. Vogue. After listening to Vogue's story about the flipped tampon and Joanne's disbelief.
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Oh yeah.
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I thought I'd share my own experience.
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Great.
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Ten years ago, I was cheated on by my ex. We had a holiday books that summer and still decided to go on it as friends. Ridiculous, I know. But I was 17 and we weren't getting any money back from it. Very grown up at 17. We've all done that. We ended up having a great time and spent one of the days on a boat trip jumping into the sea. When I got back to the hotel room, you guessed it, tampon was nowhere to be seen. I fished around for a while and managed to feel a string but couldn't grip it due to my stupidly long acrylic nails. Panic was really setting in and I was starting to feel faint. I sat in the bed feeling dizzy on my ex asked what was wrong, so I explained. Oh no. My tampon has shot up inside me and I can't get a hold of the string. One, two, skip a few. I'm on my back with my legs wide and my ex boyfriend has one hand holding his phone tempting to perform a medical procedure. To this day, I'm mortified. Juan, consider this your evidence that the impact of water can absolutely flip a tampon and the consequences are not pretty. I feel vindicated.
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Okay, fine. I've, I've, I've been shown. You've shown me. I stand down. I stand corrected. And also, what a gentleman that man is.
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You take it back that I have a giant vagina because I've shown you the vagina and you know it's not giant.
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Well, when I saw it, there was a head coming out of it. So that's pretty giant if you ask me. It wasn't. Yes. It wasn't in its most.
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No. Have I showed you that as well?
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Of course you have. It wasn't in its petite form, so I have still have no evidence about size.
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That's absolutely grim.
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I've only seen it on its mouth. Girthy in back to the whole water flipping tampons around. What sounds to me there is the tampon wasn't necessarily flipped. It was pushed back.
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I mean, in the interest of being thorough, we have had a lot of emails and just reading down the subject lines, we've got. My tampon went sideways. They absolutely can reverse. Girls, be careful on water slides. Like, there's a. There's a lot of data.
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Thank you. I don't want to keep the girls safe.
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I don't want to stand in the way of truth.
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And I might switch to mini tampons now. Okay. That's how small it's gotten. Okay.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Okay. Well, they're just going to fall out, but sure. Why are we fighting about the size of your vagina? We're grown women. I'm going to. I'm going to bring a measuring tape in later.
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Fine. Get ready. Right. Okay. We'll use.
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We'll use the time that we should have had a blow dry to measure each other's vaginas and see who's a smaller. That seems like a more sensible use of our time.
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We know what's important to us and what's not.
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And then whoever wins gets to go to the Oasis afterparty because that. That is happening.
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Stop saying that.
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I'm joking. It's not happening.
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Well, now I don't know. I'm unsure. And now I'm going to see pictures of you and Liam and Noel together sticking your finger up at me and saying you Vogue.
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I don't think they actually even go to the after parties. I think they're just like kind of for crew and stuff. That's. That was my understanding.
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I'll get raining Oasis, tag you on.
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Okay. I'll be a scaffolder for the afternoon. If you got to be into an after party. What you need? Yeah, I'll hang a light.
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You wouldn't even go to the after party if you were invited, let's be honest.
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God, no.
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Like that.
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I'm already trying to figure out how I'm going to get ahead of everyone else.
Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Date: August 20, 2025
Duration: ~20 minutes
In this MTGM EXTRA! bonus episode, Vogue and Joanne dive into the chaos of their real lives, discussing everything from beauty preparation mishaps to celebrity encounters, the emotional lead-up to an Oasis concert, and the ongoing (hilarious) debate about tampons and swimming pools. As always, the chat is deeply honest, irreverent, and full of side-splitting moments, staying well within the podcast's signature tone of supportive, but unfiltered, friendship therapy.
This extra episode is a fast-paced, openhearted, and unfiltered mix of confession, competition, and laughter—trademark MTGM. Joanne and Vogue riff off each other seamlessly, turning the most mundane and awkward parts of daily life into hilarious and oddly comforting shared therapy.
Best for listeners who love: brutally honest female friendship, oversharing, pop culture gossip, and unfiltered chat about life’s weirdest moments.