My Therapist Ghosted Me – MTGM EXTRA! "Is this the ULTIMATE ghosting?"

Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Date: August 27, 2025

Episode Overview

In this bonus episode, Vogue and Joanne dive into themes of honesty, public criticism, body confidence, and boundaries as women age. The heart of the episode spotlights an extraordinary listener story about a man faking his own death—a ghosting on a scale that stuns even these two. This ranges from light-hearted banter about beauty rituals and self-perception, to sharp observations about relationships, identity, and the ultimate “ghosting.” All of it is approached with their signature blend of wit, candour, and comic chemistry.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Masking and Handling Criticism

• Joanne discusses "masking" emotions, joking about neurodivergence and how people present themselves publicly vs. privately (00:39).
• Vogue shares a direct message from a fan offering unsolicited advice about how she should dress at "nearly 40," opening a debate about age, expectations, and bikini photos (01:56).
• Joanne observes, "If people didn't mask, civilization wouldn't move forward" (00:44).

Notable Quotes:

• “If people didn’t mask, everybody would just hate—you’d just be telling everyone to go fck themselves all the time."* – Joanne (00:44)
• "I look at you and I'm like...why does she get away with it? I don't get it." – Vogue (00:29)

2. Women, Shame, and Double Standards

• Joanne and Vogue debate the “rules” for women’s appearance with age, especially the social pressure to stop wearing bikinis.
• Joanne asserts: "If I'm embarrassed to be in a bikini at 40, then you should also be embarrassed! I'm just reminding you, you should feel shame, remember?” (03:37)
• They affirm each other’s choices—“I'll wear whatever I want”—and roast societal expectations (04:34).
• Side banter about "pigtails" as the only real fashion faux pas for older women (04:43).

3. Body Confidence & Favourites

• Both hosts cheekily discuss which parts of each other's bodies they'd swap, leading to tongue-in-cheek comparisons:
  • Joanne: “If you could swap, is there any piece of my body you would swap?” (14:23)
  • Vogue: "Your legs. I'd love your legs. And your arms." (14:30)
  • They trade off admirations and mock complaints: “I’d take your hands, arse, abs, eyebrows, teeth, and lips” (15:03).

4. Beauty Routines, Hair Growth & Treatment Mishaps

• Joanne details her successful experience with Regaine for hair regrowth, contrasting with Vogue’s unsuccessful "pumpkin seed" experiment (16:47).
• They laugh about plastic surgery and treatments, including a "lip flip" (15:16).

5. Theater, Musicals, and Lifestyle

• Quick detour into musicals: Joanne raves about seeing “Evita” at the Palladium with Rachel Zegler’s powerhouse performance.
  • “The star quality—I’ve never seen anything like it. The voice on her…it’s insane.” (09:19)
• Vogue’s upcoming plan to see “The Weir” with Brendan Gleeson (11:03).
• Nostalgic chat about their own live shows and coping with “winter mode.”
• Joanne: “Why am I not a wellness guru at this point?”—met with Vogue’s laughter (06:34).

6. Motherhood, Boarding Schools, and Alternative Parenting

• Joanne’s fantasy of sending her future “gayby” (child with her gay friend Ross) to boarding school, cracking, “I haven’t even had the kid and I’m already booking the Uber to the school!” (12:00)
• Vogue jokes about the relief of not having another child to manage.

The Listener Letter: THE ULTIMATE GHOSTING (17:21)

A listener sends in a jaw-dropping story:

• Her ex-father-in-law disappeared on a fishing trip and was presumed dead.
• After the funeral, two years later, he’s spotted alive—he faked his death to run off with another woman and escape debt.
• “Is faking your death the ultimate ghosting?” the listener asks.

The Hosts React:

• Joanne: “What a c*nt of a man! Imagine putting your family through that…” (19:27)
• Vogue: “I can take you killing yourself for financial reasons, but add romance in, what a gunt!” (19:55)
• They analyze the gender dynamics: “It’s 100% men and 0% women, I’d say,” (21:13)
• Discuss the “disappearing” culture in Japan and emotional repercussions.

Notable Quotes:

• “If my fella died I’d be like, until I see that gun’s body…I am watching the ground go on top of that coffin.” – Vogue (21:42)
• “You’ve grieved a man already and now you know he’s alive—you’re already dead to me, now you’re dead to me again, because I know you’re a gunt.” – Joanne (20:31)

Reflections on Therapy and Personal Growth (22:12)

• Jo McNally shares she’s seeing a therapist again, aiming for positivity, especially about relationships.
• The pair bounce from self-deprecating jokes to a surprising moment of genuine mutual compliments:
  • Vogue: “We’re full of the compliments today.” (23:47)
  • Joanne: “I told you, I’m being more positive.” (23:49)

Notable Moments & Timestamps

• Masking and Civility: (00:39–01:17)
• The “Motherly Advice” DM: (01:56–02:22)
• Fashion Policing After 40: (03:25–04:43)
• The Wide Gate and Body Swaps: (13:41–15:16)
• Hair Treatment Chat: (16:26–17:14)
• Ultimate Ghosting Story: (17:21–22:12)
• Gender and Faking Death: (21:00–21:16)
• Therapist and New Attitude: (22:12–24:21)

Tone & Style

True to form, the hosts deftly mix irreverent comedy, brutal honesty, and surprising flashes of vulnerability. They bounce between relatable gripes about social expectations and the absurdities of life and relationships—always ready with a quip or an exaggerated anecdote. Even the darkest submissions (“faking your own death”) are tackled with black humour.

Summary

An episode that juggles hilarity and some jaw-dropping real-life drama, My Therapist Ghosted Me’s “Ultimate Ghosting” bonus pod is a wild ride through body positivity, unsolicited advice, and the limits of “ghosting.” Chorus lines of honesty, friendship, and outrageous banter carry listeners from everyday worries to the ultimate disappearing act. And in true Joanne and Vogue style, nothing’s off limits if it makes for a great story—or a better punchline.