Podcast Summary

Podcast: My Therapist Ghosted Me
Episode: MTGM EXTRA! "It all just happened..."
Date: January 14, 2026
Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally

Episode Overview

Vogue and Joanne kick off the year with a freewheeling, candid chat packed with their trademark humour, unapologetic honesty, and musings on everything from self-image and cheese to cultural shifts in sexuality. The episode moves seamlessly between playful self-deprecation, tales of cosmetic treatments, career ambitions, a surprisingly timely listener dilemma about female sexuality, and even discussions about dogs and the latest celeb gossip. At its heart, it’s a celebration of life’s messiness—embracing change, friendship, and all the little tangents along the way.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Post-Christmas Self-Image & Cheese Habits

• Vogue laments her newfound addiction to Beaufort cheese, humorously describing herself:

  "I have turned into cheese fully. I smell of cheese. My breath smells like cheese. When does it end?" (00:11)

• Joanne indulges in playful self-deprecation, creating a comedic comparison contest:

  "I look like a ferret. I look like I've got gout. I'm disgusting with myself." (00:26)

• The duo joke about rehab and celebrity health retreats, with Vogue suggesting Austria’s Mayo Clinic as a solution.

2. Cosmetic Treatments and Stage Life

• Joanne recounts getting "intense salmon sperm" facial treatments and stepping on stage almost immediately afterward:

  "I'd say if I didn't walk on with half my face hanging off, they'd be like, she's getting lazy." (02:47)

• They mock their own obsession with treatments and contemplate adding more meaning to their lives:

  "I feel like all I do at the moment is drink wine, plug shows and get treatments. I feel like there's more to life." (03:11)

3. Career Moves & Vlogging Competition

• Joanne discusses upcoming shows in New York and LA, humorously downplaying the scale:

  "It’s LA. If you don't have a staple fall off your face at some time... it’s not..." (04:03)

• They dive into Vogue’s recent foray into vlogging, prompting a hilarious comparison to Spencer’s Antarctic record attempt:

  "Spencer breaks a record in The Antarctic. Gets 15 views. Vlog just vlogs around Battersea park putting her makeup on and gets hundreds of thousands of views." (06:32)

4. Relationships, Sexual Fluidity & The “Year of the Lesbian”

• Joanne jokes about marrying a rag doll for “press in the Daily Mail,” segueing into a discussion of sexual diversity and representation.
• They riff on the increasing visibility and acceptance of women forming relationships with women in later life:

  "Apparently 2026 is the year of the horse and the year of the lesbian." (08:13)

• Joanne cites societal and cultural changes:

  "No one's… All relationships are tricky. It doesn't matter who you're riding or what you're riding." (08:45)

• They note how shifting social attitudes have enabled more women to explore their sexuality:

  "It's a fundamental aspect of identity that unfolds. So yeah... Unfold yourself, see what happens." (12:43)

5. Listener Email: First Experience with a Woman

• A listener shares her story of unexpectedly hooking up with her friend’s sister at a New Year’s party, feeling “guilty and confused” and seeking advice.

  “I'm having my first sexual experience with another woman... I didn't get the sister's number... Please help because I feel so guilty and confused.” (10:14)

• The hosts encourage exploration and self-acceptance:

  Joanne: "Oh, pursue."
  Vogue: "If you want to have a little go again. Oh my God, do it again." (11:10)

• They reflect on sexual fluidity and the cultural context, highlighting that changing attractions are normal.

Notable Mini-Quotes:

• “Women are decentering men. There’s more to their story.” (11:28) — Joanne
• “Maybe in years to come, we'll all probably be bisexual. You never know.” (15:56) — Joanne

6. The Dog Segment

• Vogue attempts to convince Joanne to adopt a rescue dog, leading to dreams of future pet ownership and a shoutout to Niall Harbison’s animal rescue work in Thailand.

  “I'd love to buy my own little house in London. I want to have a little garden and I want... a dog. It's just, it's time to mine something and raise something..." (16:35)

7. Pop Culture Gossip: Brooklyn Beckham

• Vogue brings up tabloid news about Brooklyn Beckham allegedly sending a legal letter to his parents:

  "I'm just so desperate to know. I'm like, you sent your parents a legal letter telling them not to contact you publicly and on your Instagram. Sorry." (18:39)

• Joanne, skeptical and empathetic, reflects on family relationships and potential regrets.

8. Ending Banter: Spot Poppers & Show Plugs

• Joanne mentions the trend of pimple-popping toys as Christmas presents.
• Both hosts finish with giggles and reminders about Joanne’s upcoming live tour dates.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Joanne, on cosmetic treatments and public scrutiny:

  "I'd say if I didn't walk on with half my face hanging off, they'd be like, she's getting lazy." (02:47)

• Joanne, on “deciding to be a lesbian” for career prospects:

  "You'll never get a TV show unless you start being a lesbian." (07:57)

• Joanne, on relationships:

  "No one's... All relationships are tricky. It doesn't matter who you're riding or what you're riding." (08:45)

• Listener Email Dilemma:

  “I'm having my first sexual experience with another woman... I didn't get the sister's number... Please help because I feel so guilty and confused.” (10:14)

• Vogue, on pursuing feelings:

  "If you're still thinking about it, maybe it might be a nice thing to just like think about again. I think it's quite exciting." (13:11)

• Joanne, on future sexuality:

  "Maybe in years to come, we'll all probably be bisexual. You never know. It's a spa. It's a spectrum." (15:56)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:11 – Cheese addiction, self-image, and post-holiday blues
• 02:29 – Cosmetic treatments and prepping for live shows
• 03:11 – Career ruts and considering new hobbies
• 04:12 – Announcing US tour dates and joking about selling TV shows
• 05:01 – Vlogging rivalry with Spencer
• 08:13 – The “year of the lesbian” and shifting relationship norms
• 10:14 – Listener email: First same-sex experience at a party
• 11:28 – Discussion on sexuality as an ongoing process
• 14:45 – Reflection on how social acceptance fosters curiosity and change
• 16:35 – Dog talk: dreams of pet ownership, Niall Harbison shoutout
• 18:39 – Brooklyn Beckham family drama and ruminations on family ties
• 21:09 – Pimple-popping toys as surprise Christmas hits
• 21:28 – Show plugs and cheerful wrap-up

Tone & Style

As always, Vogue and Joanne keep the tone lively, irreverent, and authentic—unafraid to poke fun at themselves or each other, discuss taboos, and gab about whatever's on their minds. The episode blends light-hearted banter with thoughtful musings about change, identity, and relationships, making it equally hilarious and sneakily insightful.

For listeners seeking laughs, comfort, and a sense that everyone is just figuring it out—this episode delivers, with a side of cheese.