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Jerome McNally
This is a global player original podcast. Well, hello, it's. My therapist ghosted me. It's myself yet again, always consistently Jerome McNally, and consistently my wife and confidant, Vogue Williams. And hello, Sporadically, Joe.
Vogue Williams
Anyway, Joe loves a holiday.
Joe
That does make it sound like I turn up.
Vogue Williams
Says me.
Joe
Sporadically.
Jerome McNally
Yeah, you did well, Joe.
Vogue Williams
Well, you do take, you take more time off than we take off now.
Jerome McNally
In fairness, it's a lot of paternity time, Joe. Don't think we have enough.
Vogue Williams
Yeah.
Jerome McNally
And not a stitch in you. No, not a single stitch in you. But a lot of time taken.
Vogue Williams
If I have another baby, if I ever have another baby, I'm going to get on to you and ask you how you angles that much free time after the child.
Jerome McNally
What was it you took it this time?
Joe
48 hours.
Vogue Williams
Not even.
Jerome McNally
We could hear them cutting the umbilical cord live on the podcast. Sorry, guys, I'll take that out the address. Don't worry, keep going.
Vogue Williams
I'll be back in 20. I'm waiting on the placenta.
Jerome McNally
I'd like you both to do something, please, because I would like to discuss it on the podcast. Lena Dunham's new show, Too Much with Meg's daughter. Have we watched?
Vogue Williams
I started it. Yeah.
Jerome McNally
I will caveat this by saying I am a massive Lena Donovan fan. She could come in here, she could come in here and she could piss on my carpets and I'd hoover it up and decant it later and consume it. I love her. This feels to me like I'm about to say I don't believe in vaccines. That's how problematic this opinion feels to me. Because I adore her.
Vogue Williams
Doesn't mean you can't have an opinion.
Jerome McNally
It doesn't. But I want to. I, I, it's one of the, I think, you know, it's like people who, people who write books, not every book is going to be amazing. You're going to get a couple of turkeys in there. Careers are long. You can't have a hit. Not everything you do is going to be a hit. But I genuinely thought this was going to, I actually went to, I, I went to a screening of it in town. Kind of like paid to go to the screening of it because I, I thought it was, I was just, I was pausing to see it and I'm sorry to say, and Alina, I love you so much. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's not, it's, it's not bad. It's just not grabbing me in the way Lena Dunham's work usually grabs me.
Vogue Williams
I also think that she is incredible. I actually. And I love her, and I love all of anyone that's in that show. It's a great cast. It had all the markings for such a brilliant show. But I watched the first episode on the plane here, and I'd only download that show because I was like, I'm going to watch, like, three apps on the way here. This is going to be amazing. And. And I watched the first episode and I just was like, I. I nearly didn't get through the first episode. I was like, I. Actually. It was. It's. It's. It's not great. It's not a great show at all.
Jerome McNally
It's. It's like, there's slow burn, and then there's, like, no burn. Do you know what I mean?
Vogue Williams
How did that happen to her?
Jerome McNally
Do you know what I think happened? Because I've been watching and reading as rounded as much as I can, and, like, I say not everything you got. Like, there's so much pressure on her because Girls was such a seminal show, and there's so much pressure on her. But I feel like she got Netflixed. I think all those platforms, all those channels are, like, begging Lena being like, please, please, have you anything? Have you anything? Have you anything? And she obviously took a huge break from writing tv, and she's been on, like, kind of several journeys, she says herself, of sobriety and all this jazz. And then she obviously moved to the uk and she's after marrying this Eng. English musician guy. And this story is based on their relationship. I feel like she came back with the. It was the. I don't know what. I don't know what I. It's just too tame for her. There's no jeopardy. There's no tension there. And also, I'm gonna say this. And I don't know, what is this, like, a casting thing? Because I have no experience. I'm not buying the relationship between Felix and Jessica. Like, they had one date, and it wasn't even, like, a particularly hot date. And then he was saying his friends, he's met someone. And I was like, what?
Vogue Williams
There's no. I know. But, like, even the burn thing, I was like, well, how has this made sense that this has turned into an entire, like, part of the episode? Okay, we're really going in on it now. We usually. We, like, giving recommendations, and then this is. This is.
Jerome McNally
Yeah, I feel like I'm literally questioning whether we landed on planet Earth. Like, I feel like I'VE turned. I feel like I'm. This is some sort of feminist treason. But I. Everyone's talking about the show. We. We like talking about things people are talking about. I just. What. It's something missing. You kind of want to shake it and be like, no, what's. What's going on behind the scenes here? There's more going on here. What's happening?
Vogue Williams
Where's the rest? Where is it? Do you know what show I just love and I saw you posted about the other day. Again, I just. Hacks is like the perfect combination of everything you want in a show. Like, I could just watch Hacks for the rest of my life every single day and just be. It's like. It feels like Friends to me. You know, when you. When was Friends was always on, you go home and you just hear the music for Friends. That was like your day. And like, Hacks was kind of like that show to me as well. It's just so good.
Jerome McNally
Some shows are very comforting, and actually too much is also quite comforting. But you're not. You're kind of in the background now while I'm dusting and stuff. Like, this is why I'm so scared to say this, because, like, if I met Lena Dunham, I'd, like, drop to the ground and kiss her feet. And I just. I just hope to God she isn't aware.
Vogue Williams
She'll give you a big face.
Jerome McNally
I hope she isn't aware of either of us and has never heard of Angie GM and isn't one of these, like, passive women who listen to the public. Because I would die. I would just like to say that I feel in my cell having anything but completely positive things to say about Lena Jones work is the female equivalent of. To me matching with Andrew Tate on Hinge. I feel like a complete asshole. I just. I feel like a complete asshole. But it. I also. I have to be somewhat honest about it, and I don't. I feel like she's been censored or. Something's missing. It's missing. It's just not enough. There's. It's not too much. It's not enough. We need more, Elena. We need more.
Vogue Williams
I know. It's. It is a disappointing one, though. And I always feel bad. I. I hate. I hate criticizing anything. Like, if there's a. If I'm reading a book and I don't finish the book, I'm like, I just won't post about the book now because I just. I obviously didn't like the book, so I'm not going to Post about it.
Jerome McNally
Yeah.
Vogue Williams
I just feel a bit odd. But, yeah, I. I did.
Jerome McNally
We don't want to put negative stuff into the. Into the. Into the ether. But still, it is a point of conversation. But also, Lena, if you want me to appear in anything that you're writing at the moment, I would love to start.
Vogue Williams
I wish I'd had a role in it myself.
Jerome McNally
Of course.
Vogue Williams
Yeah, I had them all downloaded and I deleted them. But anyway. Anyway, I'm sure she'll come out with something that's absolutely brilliant the next time.
Jerome McNally
I'm gonna power on. I'm gonna power on. Like I say, I feel this is. She's. She's tentatively dipping the toe back into the world of TV writing. And I can feel there is hesitancy or resistance coming from someone, whether it's her or Netflix. I don't know. But I feel it, Lena. I feel the other resistance.
Vogue Williams
Amber will force herself to watch shows, and she'll literally be like, oh, I have to go watch that show now. I'm like, no, you don't. No, it's paying you to watch it. She's like, but I've started it.
Jerome McNally
You do. There's a loyalty. There's a loyalty to things like, you.
Vogue Williams
Know, I'm gonna die at some point in my life. I don't have time to read books that I don't enjoy or to watch TV shows that I don't enjoy, because then what am I gonna do on my deathbed? I'll say, you wasted seven hours watching that show. It could have been doing other stuff. That's what I'll say.
Jerome McNally
I was on to Ross the other night, who's just my socials, and I was ranting about that, and he's like, john, why don't you start doing, like, TV reviews on Tick Tock? It's because I'm too lazy. But it's something to think about because I have a lot of opinions about this. Why not?
Vogue Williams
I know, but. Yeah, I know. Too mean.
Jerome McNally
Push them on unsuspecting people who never asked for them.
Vogue Williams
I'd hate. I would hate a job like that. Or to be like, a restaurant reviewer or something that has to go in and review people's food. Because I just. I would absolutely. Like, Even if something's bad, like, if it's really bad, I'm just. I'm even a bit like, of course. I kind of feel guilty saying it, but I'm like, that was like, yeah.
Jerome McNally
I think a review should be kind of a balanced take on. Because you can't Remove your own bias as well. Like, that's why it annoys me when you've middle age. When you, when Sex and City started out, you'd middle aged elder men reviewing Sex and City. Like, that's not, that's, of course they're going to think it's, it's not for them. Not everything's for you. Do you know what I mean? But the starring system, I think is pretty brutal. I don't think you like, especially in the Edinburgh, you see like really good comics and they're getting like one star reviews. Like, don't do that to that person.
Vogue Williams
That is so mean.
Jerome McNally
Don't do that to them. Don't piss on them like that.
Vogue Williams
But don't Adam Sandler movies always get really, really badly reviewed and they're an easy watch and they might not be groundbreaking.
Jerome McNally
I love an easy watch.
Vogue Williams
Yeah, me too.
Jerome McNally
I'm an easy person. Do you know what I mean? That's why I'm not, that's why I'm sitting there watching Adam Sander and not playing Sudoku.
Vogue Williams
We'll get you on the camera. Whatever, Sudoku.
Jerome McNally
It's none of our business.
Vogue Williams
No, it isn't. I always thought I'd be one of those people that would sit at home and, and like do my crosswords and all that. And like, I do sometimes buy the Times on a Sunday. But like, if I'm really honest, I mainly buy it for Style magazine and I just read Style.
Jerome McNally
I've given the crossword a bash every. A few times. It's just not for me. Pats of Pat's an absolute shark. Yeah.
Vogue Williams
My mom has two crossword books in a room. I'm like, oh my God, people buy them. I always wondered who were the purchasers. Did I tell you that I'm a power top?
Jerome McNally
Did I tell you that we, we hide? No. Well, yes, you have, but come on.
Vogue Williams
Well, a lot of. I have a lot of gay friends and that they weren't saying this to compliment me, but they very much did. They said that, wow, if you were gay, a gay man, which I think I definitely was one in a past life. If you're a gay man, you'd be a parrot off. And I said, you know what? You're dead right. But then again, I'd be honest.
Jerome McNally
Gays telling their female friends that we're power tops is the equivalent of us telling our female friends they've lost weight. Yeah, it's just what they do. It's, it's just what they do. And like, obviously we don't discuss weight anymore, but we are still discussing topping and bottoming. It's still the ultimate compliment to a woman because every woman wants to feel within a group of men that she's considered an alpha. Yeah, exactly. They all tell us for power tops.
Vogue Williams
Can you imagine?
Jerome McNally
Can you imagine us trying to ride each other? We'd be climbing on top of each other every three seconds.
Vogue Williams
No, no. We've also spoken about this before. Joanne, you and I would lie down and have a nap together.
Jerome McNally
I'd have to knock you out, get on top. Cuz I'd be like this with her.
Vogue Williams
Train and you wouldn't be able to knock me out. Cuz we've spoken about that too. And I'd kick the out.
Jerome McNally
Why is she laughing like that, Joe? It's so aggressive. We should throw an old school Hollywood party now.
Vogue Williams
What would that entail?
Jerome McNally
Well, from the studio, which is a show I'm watching at the moment, it means they put mushrooms in the chocolate. Have you seen that clip that's going around the Internet? Seth Rogen, Zoe Kravitz.
Vogue Williams
Yeah.
Jerome McNally
He's written and produced this show called the Studio and it's really, really funny. Have you. Do you know it, Joe? You look. You look completely blank. Oh, it's so good. It's based.
Vogue Williams
I haven't seen it.
Jerome McNally
It's based on tv. It's Apple tv. I mean, you haven't paying for. You're not paying for the Apple show now.
Joe
My free three months ran out and I. Yeah, yeah.
Vogue Williams
Oh my God. You've just reminded me I need to cancel my Apple music. I don't even listen to it. But there was just a song. It was an Enya song I couldn't find anywhere else.
Jerome McNally
What?
Vogue Williams
So I applied. I couldn't. It was just one telling me you're Irish. It was an Enya song and it was like fourth down in Enya's greatest hits. And I was like, why is it only on Apple music? And then I was like, it. I'll subscribe for the free three months, but I think they've already got me. You know, they catch you and you're like, damn it, here we go for.
Jerome McNally
A year, there's nothing worse. So the studio. I'm just gonna actually read it out. So I don't. So I don't ruin the description.
Vogue Williams
Okay.
Jerome McNally
Matt Rimock. Seth Rogen is the newly appointed head of Continental Studios. Desperate for celebrity approval, he and his executive team at the movie studio must juggle corporate demands with creative ambitions as they try to keep movies alive and Relevant. It is one of the funniest shows I've watched and they have all these amazing celebrity cameos in it. And it's this really funny kind of behind the scenes look on all the Hollywood film industry. But one of the scenes that's going around and it was, it's going, it's flying around. Tick tock is Seth Rogen saying to Zoe Kravitz, she's chewing on the chocolates and he's like, here, you know, don't eat too many chocolates. And she's like, how dare you? Don't comment on my body and what I do. And he's like, he's like, no, no, no. It's just that there's. And then this other guy comes in and he's, he's screaming. He's like, are you eating the mushroom? Anyway, it turns out there's shrooms in the chocolates. And then she realizes she's eaten like enough to kind of put a horse down. And anyway, the show is really, really good. Highly recommend. Five stars.
Vogue Williams
Good. I need a new show to watch. I haven't watched one. I'm trying to think of news that I have over here. When did I talk to you last? I feel like, I feel like you spoke two days ago. I always feel like I've spoke because I'm always talking to you on something. So I never know when we've done the part because, like, remember when we went on a break and we had our break and I was like, I really want to have the break. And then we went to Wimbledon and everyone was like, yeah, great break. But anyway.
Jerome McNally
Well, you are, you are on a holiday, per se. Not a lot happens on holidays.
Vogue Williams
Well, do you know what? I have to say? There's been more work than I was anticipating on the holiday and I'm.
Jerome McNally
Well, one must pay for one's holiday.
Vogue Williams
I know, but I don't want to pay on the holiday. When I'm on the holiday, the only thing I do, I get up in the morning and I go running. But sometimes I go running with Span. And we were running the other day and I got those speed shoes that you have. Well, I didn't get them. Spy got them for me as a gift. And. And so I really feel like I've upped my running. But there's all hills and stuff around here and obviously it's hot and I'm not used to that. Anyway, Spenny, like, he runs slightly ahead of me and then he started like crossing the road and then I was like, oh, we're crossing the road and I started following him only to realize he wasn't crossing the road, he was just going over to loop me and come back around because I'm so slow that he crosses the road and goes back down and then comes back up behind me. So I was there going to follow him and I'm like oh, oh you're just looping.
Jerome McNally
Know I own a pair of flyaways and a harness and I should know what you're saying but I have no idea what looping means.
Vogue Williams
Oh, he's looping like so he's doing a loop around me to make his run longer cuz I'm going so slow. So I was there following him and he's just like oh, where are you going? And I was like I'm following. Are you going back? And he's like no, I'm just trying to like give you time.
Jerome McNally
He's trying to create a natural handicap in his performance so that he, you and him will be on the same level. Like rock.
Joe
Every straight 50 meters you run, he runs 100 meters in a circle.
Jerome McNally
Just.
Joe
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Vogue Williams
That's exactly what he does.
Jerome McNally
That's he's trying to like putting rocks in his pocket and be like no, no, no, no, this is just, I'm just as you. I got it. That's actually quite sweet, I think.
Vogue Williams
No it's not. Then he starts putting on his headphones when we're like 300 meters from the house because he's gonna go running in his own. And I'm like, can you just do that while I'm not here? I'm typing this ridiculous email to you because I've had one of those dreams, you know the ones. Anyway, it's freaked me out so I wanted to bring it to your expert ears for some analysis. I'm happily married with two kids and my husband is, let's just be honest, a very fine looking man. Oh, well done you well done. We don't have that much time for canoodling as our younger child is only 13 months old and tends to take up most of my time in the evenings. But I'm very much attracted to my gorgeous husband. Anyway, last night I had a dream and I'm worried about the repercussions. The dream was about Tommy turning.
Jerome McNally
It's the hand hats. We're all having them.
Vogue Williams
I wouldn't say that that's that weird. Tommy is quite an attractive man and he's funny and he's intelligent.
Jerome McNally
Yeah, it's the hand hats. Sorry, no, yeah, it's the hand hats. If he didn't. If he wasn't rocking those chats now half of Ireland's haven't. They're All Dreaming by Tommy Turn. Anyway.
Vogue Williams
Go on.
Jerome McNally
Sorry.
Vogue Williams
Sure. Me and the husband used to watch his show and we went to one of his comedy gigs on one of our rare nights out without the little ones. Anyway, it was a very hot, steamy, passionate sex dream about Tommy.
Jerome McNally
Are you sure it was a dream? He didn't break in. He's on the road. I heard he's touring.
Vogue Williams
I woke up feeling hot and bothered and confused. I feel like I can't look at Tommy the same way ever again. Now that his tongue was. I thought that was gonna be something else for a second.
Jerome McNally
Wow.
Vogue Williams
Now that his tongue was jammed down my throat and my imagination. Yeah, throat is fine. What do these dreams mean? Are they. Why are they so random? What's the weirdest dream you've ever had? May one of you has had the same dream about Tommy Turner. Well, do you know what? When I go to sleep tonight, that's what I'm gonna hope for. I'm gonna.
Jerome McNally
Yeah.
Vogue Williams
It never works. It never works. No, you can't plan it. You lucky. You look.
Jerome McNally
Joker. Angel. Tommy just chose to visit you that night like the baby Jesus. And you just got lucky. And he may never visit you again.
Vogue Williams
So I would write that dream down.
Jerome McNally
He could be now. He could be. It's Tommy. He's a bit whimsical. He could be literally, celestially floating around Ireland. You wouldn't know him. He's spiritual now, so you just would not know.
Vogue Williams
Is he Crystally now? Is he Crystally?
Jerome McNally
No, but I think he's gone back to mass. But he says he knows it's not real.
Vogue Williams
Yeah.
Jerome McNally
Listen, you could ride worse in your sleep. Do you know what I mean?
Vogue Williams
Yeah, and I have. And I have in real life, too.
Jerome McNally
Exactly, Exactly.
Vogue Williams
You know, I wish there were only dreams, but sometimes I'm like, yeah, you're.
Jerome McNally
Like, oh, no, that was real.
Vogue Williams
And I did it twice.
Jerome McNally
And Tommy, if you're listening, take that as a win, you know? Yeah. I'm telling you, if you wouldn't mind crawling up the neck there with something sexy, I'll leave the window just above the brow. Leave the window open for your celestial soul to slip in. Sorry, I can't say that I know him. That's gross. Sorry, Tommy, you know, I know you're actually gonna.
Vogue Williams
You're gonna see him in future. Yeah.
Jerome McNally
Work with him.
Joe
He's a colleague.
Jerome McNally
He's actually a peer yeah he's gonna.
Vogue Williams
Be really he's gonna be really uncomfortable when you see him the next time he's gonna be like God what a.
Jerome McNally
Creep Tommy what's your composure that pervert again Joanne Mc Tommy what's with the taser gun it's just your good pal Juan just a podcast and take it.
Vogue Williams
So serious lovely what Tommy Tiernan did to me last night he pepper sprayed me really Joanne why did he do that on that note I wish everybody a very enjoyable evening and with any luck one of us will dream about.
Jerome McNally
Tommy turning thank you so much V that was quite sweet the odds are that someone are we allowed stream like is what are the rules here what is he does he have to come consent I I'm on tour just FYI the London shows are going if anyone's interested there's one show left with tickets 16th of October and also Clarny and Castle Bar and Dublin.
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The episode kicks off with light-hearted banter among the hosts: Jerome McNally, Vogue Williams, and their occasional guest, Joe. They humorously discuss Joe's holiday habits and paternity leave, setting a relaxed and jovial tone for the episode.
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The hosts delve into a critical discussion about Lena Dunham’s latest show, "Too Much with Meg's Daughter." Jerome expresses his deep admiration for Dunham but voices his disappointment with the new series, feeling it doesn't capture the essence of her previous work.
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Transitioning from Lena’s show, the conversation shifts to the nature of reviewing television series. The hosts discuss the challenges of maintaining unbiased opinions and the impact of personal preferences on reviews.
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The hosts share personal stories about hobbies and daily routines, including crosswords and running. Vogue humorously discusses her running partner, Span, and their dynamic during workouts.
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A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to Vogue sharing a vivid and unsettling dream she had about the comedian Tommy Tiernan. She seeks insights and interpretations from her co-hosts regarding the meaning and repercussions of such dreams.
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The episode wraps up with light-hearted remarks about Tommy Tiernan's tour dates and ticket availability, blending promotional content seamlessly into the conversation.
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In this episode of "My Therapist Ghosted Me," Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally navigate through a blend of critical media analysis, personal anecdotes, and light-hearted humor. From dissecting Lena Dunham’s latest show to exploring the intricacies of personal dreams, the hosts offer unfiltered and honest conversations that resonate with listeners seeking both insight and entertainment. Noteworthy for its candid discussions and relatable content, this episode exemplifies the podcast’s commitment to 100% honesty and genuine dialogue.
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