MTGM EXTRA! "My body took over and I left."

Summary

Podcast Summary: My Therapist Ghosted Me

Episode: MTGM EXTRA! "My body took over and I left."
Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Release Date: July 1, 2026

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Overview

This week's "MTGM EXTRA!" is packed with Joanne and Vogue's signature unfiltered honesty and wit, focusing on wild audience interactions, summer chaos, hair extension disasters, dating disasters, and the hosts’ personal takes on celebrity news. The episode is a rolling chat, bouncing rapidly between anecdotes, advice, and irreverent banter, with several standout stories including Joanne's hair emergency and a listener's memorable escape from a bad date.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. House Parties, Paddling Pools, and GoFundMe for Carl Cox

[00:26 – 03:42]

• Carl Cox Obsession: Joe is fixated on having DJ Carl Cox play at home, jokingly weighing the logistics and expense:

  “How much is it to have Carl Cox in your house? … 60 grand. So I'm just gonna start my GoFundMe…” (Joe, 01:29)

• Paddling Pool Chat: Extensive, hilarious review of recent garden purchases and upgrades. Joanne’s commitment to “tepid girl summer” includes plans for pool parties and safe fun (no diving!).
  • Key safety tip:

    “I just don’t want any injuries… anyone’s going into the deep end of the paddling pool and, like, breaking their neck.” (Joanne, 03:42)

• Live Show Energy: Joanne thanks everyone who braved the heat to attend Manchester and Liverpool shows, joking about the party-like (sometimes tipsy) atmosphere in the audience.

2. Chaos at the Shows and Dealing with Audience Drama

[05:15 – 08:54]

• Entry Drama: Joe shares about a woman refused entry just before a show, sparking a chat about the rowdy (but loving) audience.
• Audience Participation: Joanne neglects a woman who raised her hand for 40 minutes, comparing her to a student in class and humorously speculating about her motives:

  “She had her hand up like that, you know, like in school.” (Joanne, 08:20)

• Show Vibe: Emphasized that while the crowd drinks a lot ("drank them out of wine!"), it’s all good-natured and fun—no “feral” chaos.

3. Joanne’s Hair Extension Disaster

[09:12 – 13:44]

• Hair Emergency: Joanne describes her extensions matting into “four fat, juicy, girthy dreadlocks”, necessitating a professional rescue mission:

  “I have… four, I would say, giant matted chunks ... honestly, they’re like dreadlocks.” (Joanne, 09:34)

• DIY Advice: The hosts joke about terrible internet advice including washing hair with Fairy Liquid, but ultimately highlight the need for pros.

  “If Joanne ever gets on to anyone for advice in the DMs, please just ask her to seek professional help.” (Joe, 11:24)

• Seasonal Wisdom: Both agree that hair extensions are a “winter commitment”—summer means sweat, pools, and extension carnage.

4. Flights, Luck, and Minor Miracles

[13:53 – 15:12]

• Joe recounts the travel miracle of being moved to an earlier, business-class flight after a delay.

  “There is a God. I often wondered, was there a God? But now I realize with that stroke of luck, there is.” (Joanne, 14:54)

5. Celebrity Goss, Personalities, and Audience Boundaries

[15:12 – 20:04]

• Katie Price’s Husband Lee: Joanne’s futile attempt to introduce a segment on Lee is met with resistance, leading to a running joke about her persistence and her “child” Lee.

  “This is my child. He's my child. This is my child story.” (Joanne, 15:45)

• Footballer Crushes & Relationship Dynamics: A recap of recent social media obsessions and playful speculation about partners’ jealousy. Both hosts agree they're only romantically adventurous if they have feelings:

  “We need feelings. We're feelers.” (Joe, 20:01)

6. The Bin Men Saga

[20:53 – 22:51]

• Joanne laments her ongoing “war” with her rubbish collectors and the varying bin collection rules. Joe admits, “I know that you’re in the wrong,” but sympathizes with her saga.

7. Listener Letter: “My Body Took Over and I Left”

[22:51 – 29:03]

• Story Summary: A listener describes going on a second date with a man whose political and celebrity opinions (Michael Jackson is innocent, Kanye West is a genius, and Nigel Farage is what the UK needs) are dealbreakers. Overwhelmed, the listener leaves abruptly when he goes to the bar and blocks him.

  “My body took over and I left.” (Listener, 25:48)

• Host Reaction:
  • Joe: “I think doing a runner on him was a little bit mean.” (27:37)
  • Joanne: “I think was a bit... I don't agree with that.” (27:41)
  • Debate whether it’s possible to date someone with opposing political views and where the line is drawn.
  • Spirals into jokes about separating art from the artist regarding Michael Jackson and Kanye West.

    “Do we separate the art from the artist? A bigger question, you know, only if the artist is good.” (Joanne, 28:49)

8. Hair Extension Cliffhanger and Friday’s Secret

[29:09 – 30:40]

• Teasing future updates on Joanne’s hair and a supposed secret from Joe for the next episode.

  “If you don’t keep us updated all day long with this hair, I mean, big trouble.” (Joe, 29:09)

9. Closing Banter

• A final brief chat about Madonna’s rumored “eggy” Graham Norton interview, setting up another tease for next week.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On show audiences:

  “If I was on the door, there's no one sober in there. Now, in fairness.” (Joe, 06:55)

• On internet hair advice:

  “Please just ask her to seek professional help. We don't want Joanne sitting in her kitchen pouring Fairy up liquid into the back of her head.” (Joe, 11:24)

• Full honesty about relationships:

  “I lose the run of myself when I go to your shows as well.” (Joe, 07:01)

• Listener’s dramatic date departure:

  “I saw him at the bar… my body took over and I left.” (Listener, 25:48)

• When you know you’re right in the bin war:

  “It feels personal. It feels personal.” (Joanne, 22:45)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:26 – Joe’s Carl Cox obsession & party plans
• 03:42 – Pool safety and paddling pool mishaps
• 05:15 – Show stories and the difficulties of fan management
• 09:12 – Joanne’s hair extension disaster discussed
• 13:53 – Joe’s travel luck and “there is a God” bit
• 15:12 – Joanne’s bid to talk about Katie Price’s husband
• 20:53 – The bin men saga
• 22:51 – Listener’s dramatic ghosting story
• 27:37 – Reflection on political red lines in dating
• 29:09 – Hair disaster cliffhanger and Friday episode tease

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Tone & Language

• Informal, conversational, high on banter and honesty.
• Frequent self-deprecating humor, playful jabs, and digressions.
• Advice is heartful but delivered with sarcasm and wit.

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This episode is emblematic of "My Therapist Ghosted Me" at its best: a rolling, irreverent chat where no topic is off-limits, and the laughs are as big as the advice is unqualified.

Transcript

[Joe]

This is a global production.

[Joanne]

There is a God. I. I often wondered, why is there a God? But now I realize with that stroke of look, there is.

[Joe]

I love you so much. But I just. I didn't even have your back for one second with this because I know that you're in the wrong.

[Joanne]

How does he think he's gonna get away with saying he's got a part in his tenders?

[Joe]

I have had a very, very busy weekend.

[Joanne]

Oh yeah.

[Joe]

All I've done for the whole weekend. Obviously there was work and stuff involved, but like, let's forget my main takeout from this weekend was Carl Cox. I don't care about your footballer fella, Joanne. I want somebody as cool as Carl Cox.

[Joanne]

Where did, did you. Where what? Where did this come from?

[Joe]

I go on these mental, like, remember it was Bad Bunny a couple of weeks ago. Then I had a little look at your footballer. I decided he wasn't really for me, to be honest with you. And I didn't want to fight with you about it anyway.

[Joanne]

Okay?

[Joe]

And I could see Ruth Langsford in the comments talking about that she was into him. And I thought, I'm not into this now. It's turning into a hen fight. And so I. So I saw a video of Carl Cox playing this like Castle in France and he did, you know that Blade song from the, from the movie Blade? And he just DJed that. And I was like, no. Yes, the coolest one. So straight on to chat gbt. How much is it to have Carl Cox in your house? Cuz obviously I can't go out at night.

[Joanne]

Okay, yeah, you're 50 grand.

[Joe]

I would like go me.

[Joanne]

Sorry folk, you put that cash down the back of your couch. Would you stop Put your gofundme.

[Joe]

Joanne, I'm in the middle of a renovation, okay?

[Joanne]

So all the money has been taken. You did that in your console. Is that what they call that little bit in the car, but it's got sticky bits. Mine's got like lollipops and all in

[Joe]

it in the ashtray, the old ashtray. 60 grand. So I'm just gonna, I'm gonna start my GoFundMe and if anyone, if everyone would like to share it, you can stand outside the house and you can, you can catch the music from outside. But Carl will be in my house and it will just be me and Carl. I'll just be listening to dj.

[Joanne]

I think that's a great use of your money. And if that happens, please invite me down. I'll bring them, I'll bring. I'LL bring my paddling pill. We can set up as a pill party. I ordered another pad. The pump has arrived. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's full. I beat the vibes in the garden.

[Joe]

I mean, you're talking about me swimming and money. I saw him when she spent the first one. You are. Oh, that.

[Joanne]

Oh yeah, the red, the what Was it like 100 quid? The red lip one. I know, yeah.

[Joe]

Did you get another lip one?

[Joanne]

No, I didn't, I didn't. I went basic. I went, I went like standard practice. Just rectangular pool. Now.

[Joe]

Now as a paddling pool connoisseur, I've got one in the house. We, we basically. I'm actually, I'll do a video of our garden. I have. It's probably a 4 meter by 5 meter garden. And in that garden there's a paddling pool, there's two chairs, there's a table, there is a two person sauna that is like a standing up coffin.

[Spectra]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And a trampoline. So there's no room. You can barely walk there. But the, but the paddling pool, what I will say is either you're gonna have to put it on your grass, which I think might ru. Or you need to get like sponge flooring for underneath.

[Joanne]

Oh, yeah. Yes, yes. I was, I was looking at how I was going to elevate us.

[Joe]

That's how you elevate it. Yeah. Okay, fine. I have a slide. A blow up slide doesn't fit in my garden. You can have it. And it goes over the edge of the paddling.

[Joanne]

I wouldn't be averse to it. You know, like, I mean, I'm here to, I'm here to have my tepid girl summer and if that evolves, throw myself down a plastic slide. I'm like, I, I can see myself doing it. I just don't want to, I just don't want any injuries. Do you know what I mean? I don't. Anyone's going into the deep end of the paddling pill and like breaking their neck. I watch a lot of that kind of stuff on Tik Tok people. Do you remember the story with the woman whose bridesmaid threw her into the pool on her hen party and she's like never walked since.

[Joe]

Yeah, I've heard like, and I've met somebody who actually dove into a pool and broke. So like, you know the way you always hear it, but I've actually met somebody who has broke his neck.

[Spectra]

Yeah.

[Joe]

So you're gonna get a no diving sign for your pool.

[Joanne]

Yes. Into the paddling Field at the deep end, which would be up to my ankles.

[Joe]

Heavy petting is allowed.

[Joanne]

It's summer, Joe.

[Spectra]

Fine. Heavy petting, please. Heavy petting, yeah.

[Joanne]

None of your light padding unless it's heavy, we're not interested. I want some heavy.

[Joe]

Hello, I'm here for a heavy pass.

[Joanne]

Yeah, Heavy padding. Backing slowly into any ladder. Can see.

[Spectra]

I'm here.

[Joanne]

It's summer. I'm here for a heavy, heavy pat. I just want to say thank you to everyone who came to the Liverpool and Manchester shows the weekend. I honestly thought I would be rolling around in there on my own because the heat and like, the fact that they would have been it, like I would have lost them to the beer garden and they actually made the effort to come and I greatly appreciate it. Moving on from that.

[Joe]

No, hang on, I have to add something and I'm sorry to the person that mailed me, but, like, there's certain things I'll contact you on. On with. But there's certain things I won't contact her with when she's ready to go on stage. So

[Joanne]

I was like, was this the woman out the front who. What, they wouldn't let in? Yeah, I'm like.

[Joe]

And I actually felt so bad for her. I was like, oh, no, I hate when that happens.

[Joanne]

Yeah.

[Joe]

And then the end, she was like, and if you can't sort it out, I hope she has a good show. And I was like, I can't be getting on to Joanne Asner to go out and get a pissed curl in.

[Joanne]

Yeah, we can't. I know, I know. And because sometimes, like, I, she. I've had many of those males over the years, a couple of those messages over the years from women in the queue who are being refused entry. And I like, obviously I'm in show mode, so it's not. I can't really go out and start getting involved with the queues and security and stuff, but as well, like, I have to kind of trust that the security guys are right because I'll be honest, there's a lot of women getting in that I'm like, oh. Like, if they're coming in, I can only imagine what's not coming in.

[Joe]

What's the line like? What is the line at your show is the vomiting. The vomiting is over the line. And then it's like, as long as you can walk, doesn't have to be in a straight line, but as long as you can kind of get yourself into your seat, you can go in.

[Joanne]

I don't know what. I don't yeah. Which you can feel your way once. You can feel your way to your seat. Yeah, but. But no, I like the shows. I always make them sound like there's some like feral, like kind of everyone's just like vomiting into Zara jackets. That's not the case. But like I say, if I was

[Joe]

on the door, there's no one sober in there. Now, in fairness. Come on, you do. I lose the run of myself when I go to your shows as well.

[Joanne]

It's got an energy.

[Joe]

It's got an energy to one at Christmas. I'm going to warn at Christmas. Well, I might do too, but I'm definitely going to.

[Joanne]

It's got an edgy. I just. Sometimes I worry because I had a woman message me once and she was like, the way you talk about your show is. I'd love to go, but I'm like, scared. It's like. No, it's not. We probably just. But I will say Manchester and the. In the palace, they. They drank them out of wine. That's my girls. Yeah. Joined them completely out of wine. Anyway, sorry. So I'm sorry, it's that woman who couldn't get in. But it's, you know, I can't be. I can't be inserting myself into security. I have to trust that they are doing their job. You know yourself, people are more pissed as well because the sun, they're fermenting like fruit flies. It dehydrates you out more.

[Joe]

Ah, you gotta like, you, come on. You gotta just go back to basics. You gotta have a good meal, right? You gotta. You need to like. It's like if you're gonna go out for the whole day, you have to prepare yourself. You gotta hold back a little bit. Even though you don't want to hold back. It's. It's tough, but it can be done. It can be done. But this woman didn't pass the test.

[Joanne]

Also to the. To the woman in Liverpool in the third row, who sat with her hand up for, I'd say 40 minutes. I'm sorry I didn't come to you for your question. I have to keep going. I had to keep the show moving.

[Joe]

I'd love to know what the question was.

[Joanne]

Well, she left then.

[Joe]

Stop.

[Joanne]

She had her hand up like that, you know, like in school.

[Joe]

She was probably asking if she could go. Excuse me, John. I know, I know. Would you mind if I left? I'm okay.

[Joanne]

I was like, you're free to go. Free to go. Free to get. Free to come and go. Free to come and go. Janonia, you know when you're kind of said, I was, I, I made an executive decision. I was like, I'm not gonna, not going to engage here because she looked a little wobbly and she's the hand up and I, like, it's like, do you know? You're like, come on now, we can't be doing Q&As. We have to keep this to keep this thing going. Like, it's awesome.

[Joe]

Maybe she wanted a birthday shout out. Joanne, for God's sake, it's hot in here.

[Joanne]

You know, me and the girl as, we're sweating. We need to keep this, we need to keep it moving. Anyway, all that aside, I noticed this Vogue nozzle. Sorry, I, I noticed this little clump in my hair. Joe, you know that I have, like, extensions now?

[Spectra]

Yeah, they are, they are massive.

[Joanne]

I thought you were going to say majestic.

[Spectra]

I mean, they are, they're majestic. You're like a lioness had a mane.

[Joe]

Can I just caveat this by saying I did feel like it was going a little bit too well.

[Joanne]

Yeah.

[Joe]

I thought she's really, I thought she's really coping a lot better with these than I thought she would.

[Joanne]

Yeah, I was. And I was, I was, I thought I was looking after them and I was brushing them and I thought I was on top of it. She wasn't on top of it, dear reader. She was not on top of it. I find this little clump at the back and I was like, oh, that feels a little knot there. And then I went around and found a couple little more knots and I. The back of my hair, there's like four, I would say, giant matted chunks of stenos where I think the K tip, the glue, the glue has like, melted into my hair and it's honestly, like, they're like dreadlocks. I've four fat, juicy, girthy dreadlocks at the back of my head now, which I have. There is no budging them, there is no moving them. I've done everything. So I'm off into. I'm taking an ambulance into town now after this.

[Spectra]

That's why we're recording early surgery. You said you had a hair emergency and this is it.

[Joanne]

Yes, this is a hair emergency. I, I, I've had like a sheep's arse and I'm feeling.

[Joe]

I, I have to be honest with you. You've got to. I take some Salpos. You need to have some salt buzz. Because that happened to me once before in Australia. I had my hair done in Australia years ago when I lived there and I. I was wearing. I even remember the color of the shirt. And I was wearing a shirt in to get them all out because they'd all gone matted. And the whole back of my shirt was just sweat because it was just like someone always constantly picking at your hair. It's not. It's not the nice. It's just. I'd load up on some. Some.

[Joanne]

Yes, I was.

[Joe]

There was.

[Joanne]

There was a lot of advice in the DMs, because obviously I took it to the Internet because why wouldn't you? I love chance, the Internet. And there was a lot of people saying, like, I put Fairy liquid in them. Then there was. I don't think they understood, like the extent of what the problem was, but there was a woman contacted me from a salon in Peterborough.

[Joe]

If Joanne ever gets on to anyone for advice in the DMs, please just ask her to seek professional help. We don't want Joanne sitting in her kitchen pouring Fairy up liquid into the back of her head.

[Joanne]

Very up, very up. It must do something very liquid. I think. I think it does strip. Like, I'd say it's useful in certain situations.

[Joe]

It's great for washing your makeup brushes.

[Joanne]

There you go. But anyway, there was a woman contacted me from a salon in Peterborough and she said they're like specialists in unmatching hair extensions. And she said it's an absolute nightmare. And a lot of. A lot of salons won't deal with it because it takes re. It takes like. I sent Hadley the video at the back of my head and he goes, that's a day job, so get in as early as you can. That's why I had to move the pod.

[Joe]

Anyway, that sounds like a nice day for you. I'm excited for you.

[Joanne]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, look, any excuse to take a couple of SaaS, you know, yourself.

[Joe]

Do you think we should maybe take the centers out for a little while just for your hot girl summer? We'll take the centers out and then maybe we'll revisit them in the cooler months.

[Joanne]

I think I will. Do you know what? They're all kind of coming out now. I think they're naturally moving away from my head as it stands. I think it's time. I think it's time to go back to my. My little bob and then maybe strap the hair back in for winter. That's what I'm.

[Joe]

Joanne can grow stenos like that in the sweat in six months time. Your hair grows so fast. You would have.

[Joanne]

Yeah.

[Joe]

As long as your centers. That's all you have to do.

[Joanne]

Yeah, I'm on the minoxidil as well. Do you know what I mean? And I'm going. I think I'm gonna do a little. I beat the trip in August and like, imagine having those hair that long, that length of hair with the pool and all.

[Joe]

That's why my, that's why my standards are out now. Because I'm going away in a couple of weeks and I am not dealing with it. I'm going back to having smelly, damp hair for my summer holidays in Spain. Yeah, just like last. I just. Feral head.

[Joanne]

There was a woman messaged me and she said she did the same thing. She went swimming and she got out of the pool and her, her standards just like stay. She took it out. She took them out of her hair bob and they just stayed in the exact position that they were in once you had the hair popping in them. They were just. They're like. It's like chewing gum. They just like. Yeah. It's not a summer situation. Extensions are. It's a winter, It's a winter commitment.

[Announcer]

Summer.

[Joe]

It's.

[Joanne]

It's too much of a lifestyle choice for me. And I was glad anyway. I was glad of the support, support in the dms because I did feel like I was, I had, I was like, oh my God, I'm a bin woman. Like, how have I let this happen? But no, it is quite common, Quite common. And yeah, happens to everyone. There you go.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Joanne]

Nothing to see here.

[Joe]

I had really good luck yesterday. Do you know what happened? I was. I was flying home from Dublin and I worked all day and I was wrecked and my flight. Then I got a message saying my flight had been delayed till 9 o' clock and I was like, oh my God. All other flights were sold out. I was looking at any options. I was even going to fly to Stansted, which is four years away from my house. And then didn't I get to the airport and I got. Because I have so many points because I fly all the time. They're like, I will put you on the earlier flight. The 6 o' clock that I thought was sold out. Got in the plane. No, it was one of the planes that goes to New York. You know Aer Lingus, the way Aer Lingus can fly to New York. So some of their planes have business class. Like actual business class.

[Spectra]

Yeah.

[Joe]

Usually when you're sitting up the front on a flight to London, it's just like a regular seat.

[Joanne]

Of course. Sorry.

[Joe]

So not only did I get on an earlier flight. I then got to lie down for an hour.

[Joanne]

Stunning. You love a lie down for you.

[Joe]

God, I wasn't even asleep. I had my eyes open, but I was just lying.

[Joanne]

There is a God. I. I often wondered, was there a God? But now I realize with that stroke of look, there is.

[Joe]

That's how I felt yesterday, nearly getting home at 11 o' clock at night.

[Joanne]

I go back to mass now I'm

[Joe]

a quarter to nine. That's why my week has gone so well. We're recording this on a Monday and I feel great.

[Joanne]

Listen, I have something to say to the two of you.

[Joe]

Okay.

[Joanne]

I. I all. All began. I wanted to talk about Katie Price's husband on the podcast and I. Yeah, okay, look. No, exactly right. I knew. I knew.

[Joe]

I think you need to start a new podcast and it should just be you and just you. And you can start one with Katie Price. I'll let you if you want to.

[Joanne]

I've decided. I've decided. I said no. I said, I know what's gonna happen. I'm gonna try and bring him up and. And then they're both gonna sigh.

[Joe]

You did.

[Joanne]

Because you're on mute. Because you're on mute. I saw it in your eyes and I saw your head flick back. And then she said. I said, don't you want to stand your ground? Stand your ground. I listen to them talking about their children all the time. This is my child. He's my child. This is my child story.

[Joe]

I don't talk about my kids nearly as much about this Lee fella. No way. I do. We do not. Now I have. We have both let. You had a fair amount. I wouldn't. 3.

[Spectra]

How long do you want? Do you need one?

[Joe]

Mind?

[Joanne]

I'd like two minutes.

[Joe]

I wouldn't mind if they were. Interesting. It's the same old.

[Joanne]

It's not actually. It's not actually.

[Joe]

He makes saying he's adopting the kids now. Like, I can't. He actually. He actually is one of those people I look at and I'm like, oh,

[Spectra]

why don't we give it one last. One last chance? Joanne.

[Joe]

This is the fourth time. This better be brilliant.

[Joanne]

I spoke about him on stage in Liverpool and Manchester and the girls were very invested.

[Joe]

They'd had. They'd honestly had. They. They literally had drunk the place dry by then. They were invested in everything.

[Spectra]

You need an open mind. Vogue. Come on. Come on, we can do this.

[Joanne]

He said the other day that he's gotten a part in EastEnders and he hasn't.

[Joe]

Oh, I'm sorry. I am shocked.

[Joanne]

They contacted the BBC. The BBC said they haven't hired him. Also, he's on a travel ban. He can't even leave Dubai. Yeah, so he's not going into his standards.

[Joe]

Thank God. That's actually. That is the best news you've come with. He can't leave Dubai. I have never heard a greater sentence. Thank you.

[Announcer]

Also.

[Joanne]

Also, did you know that now I realize this isn't the room for this now.

[Joe]

This is a few things. Now, you said you had one thing you wanted to say about him.

[Joanne]

How does he think he's gonna get away with saying he's got a part in his day?

[Joe]

He's taking the piss out of everybody. He doesn't. Do you know what I. I liken it to. That's. This is why I think I have such a problem with it. I liken. I. I liken it to being really stupid. Like, he's trying to make people seem stupid and think that we actually believe his. And I can't bear it because I feel like he doesn't even have two brain cells to drop together. That's how I feel about him. And I hate being dragged down to

[Joanne]

his level just trying to enjoy myself.

[Joe]

Well, you know what? I had something to say about Northwestern. I didn't because I said Joanne doesn't really like talking about the Kardashians. And I won't.

[Joanne]

I was saying, I know what this is. Spectra was like, joe, I find the whole north thing utterly bizarre. Why is she always on her own? Where are her parents? She's 13. She's just constantly floating around on her own. Do you know what I mean? Do you not notice that? Yeah, meet and greets and everything. Like, where are her parents?

[Joe]

That's kind of why. That's the whole thing's words.

[Joanne]

I find the whole thing. I find it mental. And I know exactly what you're going to talk about because that guy you fancy, Spect Spectra Skepto.

[Joe]

Do you know what? You want someone. I know someone I know male to meet this guy? And he was like, is your husband really liberal? And I was like, what? And he was like, I just watched that video about the footballer. And I was like. I was like, yeah, I guess, like, he's just kind of cool about that kind of stuff. And then I was like, actually, hang on. So many's not on Instagram, he wouldn't have seen that. And I was like. And he was like, oh, okay. And I was, oh, wait, hang on. He's not like, like, we're not that kind of couple like that liberal. He's not thinking I'm going off to. To try and, like, get it on with this footballer fella. It's like he just knows nothing. I'd never do anything. I think you've mixed.

[Joanne]

Or Spencer knows you're up against me and Ruth Langsford. And he's like, yeah, she's not gonna get a. Yeah, good luck. She's not gonna get a look in because we're gonna take it. No one's got through me and Ruth, I can tell you.

[Joe]

Oh. That's why I took a step back. I was like, I'm not getting invol.

[Joanne]

Yeah.

[Joe]

The stakes have gone up. I'm not that invested that I don't want to. I'm not getting the claws out for this one. I'll. I'll take it. I'll take a stand back. No, the whole thing is I can say whatever I want about anyone because I am such a frigid that he knows I'd never do it. I bet you I need to be in love. No.

[Joanne]

Yeah, I know.

[Joe]

Yeah.

[Joanne]

Yeah. We need feelings. We're feelers.

[Joe]

Yeah. Juwan wouldn't even do it if. If your man walked into her house right now naked. She'd run out the door.

[Joanne]

Excuse me, folks. Speak for yourself. I just. I. I don't. I don't know. I don't. Everything. Share last night. I'm good to go.

[Joe]

Okay. He walks into your house naked, you're going. You'd be like, I have to have a drink first.

[Joanne]

Well, obviously. I mean, who rides what psychopath rides sober? But apart from that, I'd obviously do a quick shot of tequila that I have at the door

[Joe]

just in case. Is that your justification?

[Joanne]

Just in case I need to deliver you guys. If there's a vibe, I'm like, all right, come in. Quick shot of tequila, up the stairs. In you go. Tap, tap on the ass, out your pop. 57's the code. That's my washing machine. I'm. I'm just finished another wash.

[Joe]

Sorry. Yeah, it's a Monday. It's a Monday.

[Joanne]

Can you hear the. I'm literally. I'm literally washing winter jackets now at this stage, just to get a. Just to get a high.

[Joe]

Can I drop you a book upload of loads?

[Joanne]

I'd love you to. Cuz I'm about to drop a load of boxes in the skip outside your house cuz the bin men are. This. The war continues. Unbelievable stuff.

[Joe]

It's abuse. I feel. I feel. I feel like I don't Joe And I really have to take a step back from each. I can't, I can't risk that. I've told you, I'm too concerned.

[Joanne]

That's why I have the bottle, tequila at the door. Cuz I'm like, I'm going to have to shag one of these lads at some stage, get this back on track. I'm gonna have to stick the ankle out and be like. To try and seduce one of them or something. I don't know how I'm gonna get my recycling.

[Joe]

Why don't you leave like. Why don't you leave like a little trail of eggshells and they'll come in to give out you about the bins and then you'll just be there nude, waiting.

[Joanne]

I think I'm just gonna appear naked at the door wearing all the contaminated stickers that they've been putting on my bins for weeks. Across my nipples. I don't know.

[Joe]

I told you there's. I love you so much, but I just. I didn't even have your back for one second with this because I know that you're in the wrong.

[Joanne]

But I think now, now what's happened? Yeah, okay, sure. At the start. Yes, Sorry, sorry, I don't have it. I don't have a degree in refuse. Okay. So yeah, I probably did break some rules, right. But like now I'm trying to. Me and Lauren are like, like, like going through it line by line. Like that's Lauren's job with me at the moment, just to try and help me get these bins taken away. And they're still not taking them. And now it feels personal. It feels personal.

[Spectra]

It is.

[Joanne]

It is personal.

[Spectra]

Yeah.

[Joe]

You've done something. You've done something bad.

[Joanne]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joe]

Okay. I have never written into anything before, but yesterday I did something so out of character that I am in disbelief that I did it.

[Announcer]

Oh.

[Joanne]

Oh, well, that's a great opener.

[Joe]

Really good. I went on a second date last night. Our first date was about a month ago. I knew from that one he wasn't someone I would want long term. So I politely declined his second date, but said I thought he was lovely and wished him all the best. I kept his number and one evening he put up a WhatsApp story of him in a bar. I loved his outfit and liked the picture. This then led to him starting up a conversation. He told me that he put it up there on purpose in the hope of getting my attention. I joked, I joked about. And we carried on talking. Nothing interesting, just day to day. He became Very flattering and said about meeting up. I knew that I didn't see it long term, but I can be a bit harsh. So I decided to meet him for a drink. It actually started off well. However, topics got brought up which showed our differences. He believe. He believes Michael Jackson.

[Joanne]

Love this. Go on. Michael Jackson's innocent. Do you think Michael Jackson innocent?

[Joe]

He believes Michael Jackson's innocent. He thinks Kanye west is a genius. And. And to top it off, he thinks Nigel Farage is what this country needs.

[Joanne]

Well, like, you know what? Oh, sorry, hold on.

[Joe]

Does he have a maga hat?

[Joanne]

Well, I will. Do you know what? I will say there's. There, there's many. Like the Kanye west genius thing. Like, I think even people who. I mean, obviously there's, you know, he's come out and explained that he's bipolar and all that stuff. Like even

[Joe]

still think he's a genius.

[Joanne]

Yeah. Regardless of the. Whether they. They think he's having a breakdown or they think there was real beliefs or whatever, a lot of people do still think he's a genius. And I am always shocked when I meet normal people who think Michael Jackson wasn't a beautiful.

[Joe]

I watched those three shows. It's just

[Joanne]

the man had a playground in his driveway.

[Spectra]

But who could say?

[Joanne]

There's no way.

[Joe]

I heard you aren't listening to Michael Jackson the other day.

[Joanne]

I watched the documentary, so.

[Spectra]

Okay.

[Joanne]

I think you'll find that qualifies me more. Yeah.

[Spectra]

Yeah.

[Joanne]

Well, I was chatting to someone on Facebook, Marketplace, very informed and I agree with them.

[Joe]

I tried to change the conversation, but he couldn't believe that I thought Nigel Faraz was bad and started laughing. I struggled to make eye contact. There was an awkward silence. I wanted to leave, but he asked me what my dream job would be. By this point, I couldn't be ours to continue. He said he would let me think about it while he went to get a drink and go to the toilet. I saw him at the bar. It was quite busy and my body took over and I left.

[Announcer]

Whoa.

[Joe]

On my way to the car, I blocked him on WhatsApp. Not really thinking it through, as when I got home, I had three missed calls from him. After about half an hour of being home, I decided to unblock and send a quick I'm sorry for my behavior. I just didn't think we were a good match. I waited until he read it, then blocked him before he could answer. Am I wrong? I do feel guilty and I've never done it before. I just couldn't sit with anyone who thought Nigel Farage was the answer. I mean, I have to be honest, I couldn't. There's certain views I'm able to look past in people, but, like, if someone

[Joanne]

sat down, like, you know, for where they're. Yeah. Not. We're not all going to agree on the same stuff all the time, it would make the world a very boring place.

[Joe]

I have friends who have opinions on things that I completely disagree with, but it's just something that we never talk about and I just leave them to their own opinion. But, like, if someone's pushing, like a political view on you, like, if someone was like, trying to make me wear a MAGA hat and, like, just be mad for Donald Trump, I'd be like, I just don't. I don't think this is the basis for a great relationship.

[Joanne]

It's Nigel Farage now. Excuse me and my Irish ignorance. You know, I don't like to dabble in your business, Joe.

[Spectra]

My business? Oh, my. My country of your land.

[Joanne]

Yeah, I don't dabble, I just.

[Spectra]

Here you come.

[Joe]

Dibble, dabble.

[Joanne]

She relative slaves for a hardcore double.

[Joe]

Double.

[Joanne]

Is he not about to be Prime Minister?

[Joe]

No, there's a.

[Spectra]

There's general election has been held. There is.

[Joanne]

But is there not talk that he has a very good chance of becoming the next Prime Minister?

[Spectra]

There are certain publications that would have you believe that there is not a general election for at least another two years. There have been bi. Election results which may suggest some support.

[Joe]

I, I think doing a runner on him was a little bit mean.

[Joanne]

I, I agree. I think was a bit. I don't, I don't agree with that.

[Spectra]

She seems to know it was mean though, doesn' she? I think she, she knows.

[Joe]

You do know it was me, but, like, probably you shouldn't have done that. Even though I think that you just got. It was. I mean, there was a lot thrown in there. You had Michael Jackson, Penny west and Nigel Farage one in one conversation. You had a lot thrown at you. It was overwhelming.

[Joanne]

I would, I think I'd rather have dinner with someone who thinks Nigel Farage is a good choice for the UK over somebody who thinks Michael Jackson is innocent. Like, open your eyes.

[Spectra]

He was acquitted of all charges. Michael, regardless.

[Joe]

Yeah, he was acquitted of everything.

[Spectra]

Leave. Or may think he was acquitted of all charges.

[Joe]

Oh, yeah, you have to watch the documentary. It's, it's, it's pretty. Now, in fairness, there was, it was. Because there was. Oh, God, it was just unreliable things and stuff that was going on. Like, obviously, like if you actually Watch it. And you're of saying mind she will probably come up with the same reasoning as Joanne. No matter how much you love Thriller.

[Joanne]

Do we separate the art from the artist? A bigger question, you know, only if the artist is good.

[Joe]

Not. Yeah, the artist is not breaking the law. We can probably.

[Joanne]

We can separate. If it's the artist good, I'm happy to separate. If the artist is. Is not good, I will not separate.

[Joe]

That is it for today. Thank you so much everyone for listening. Joanne, if you don't keep us updated all day long with this hair, I mean, big trouble.

[Joanne]

I'm on my way to get. To get sheared by Hadley. I. I'm gonna stream it live. Listen, folk, I wish you could feel them, they are huge.

[Announcer]

Like two.

[Joanne]

I've like four goujons of hair hanging off the back of my head.

[Joe]

An undercoat worked for Miley Cyrus. It's gonna work for you.

[Joanne]

Oh, God, no. I put down as into look, make. Make me look like I've longer hair and now I'm gonna. I'm gonna get an undercut.

[Joe]

Oh, you've done well. I think you've done well for three months. You only got. You only got dreadlocked after three months. Yes.

[Joanne]

Yeah, you're right. Nice. You're right.

[Joe]

We were expecting them after a couple of weeks, to be honest.

[Joanne]

Yeah, you're right.

[Spectra]

I should be Friday episode to see how it went.

[Joanne]

I should be the face of a hair extension brand, really, if I got three months out without mashing it myself.

[Joe]

Joe, I don't think I was telling the listeners that, like, we'll tell them what happens with Joanne's hair on Friday is going to make them want to come back and listen.

[Spectra]

If they watch on YouTube they can

[Joe]

see how I. Yeah. I have a really big secret to tell you on Friday. There you go.

[Spectra]

Oh, hello.

[Joe]

Oh, I don't actually. I'm only trying to get. Now no one have I ever had a secret.

[Joanne]

That was so exciting.

[Joe]

I know. As soon as anything comes up, I really ring you and tell you try

[Spectra]

and think of one for Friday.

[Joanne]

I was like, do you know what I thought it was? I said, oh, my God, she's going to Graham Norton. That's what I thought it was.

[Joe]

What would I be gone? Hello, Graham. So what are you up to?

[Announcer]

Just the same old.

[Spectra]

You've got a new baby coming out.

[Joanne]

Got a new baby coming out on Friday's epo. We need to have a proper chat about the Madonna interview on the Graham Norton Show. I haven't watched yet. I heard it's eggy. As.

[Announcer]

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[Joe]

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