Podcast Summary: My Therapist Ghosted Me

Episode: MTGM EXTRA! "My friend's husband..."
Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Date: November 12, 2025

Main Theme & Purpose

In this MTGM Extra! episode, Vogue and Joanne dive into hilarious, candid chat and listener dilemmas, balancing their signature “unqualified advice” with infectious humor. This week, the pair discuss chaotic mornings, hotel misadventures, and tackle a spicy listener problem: developing an irresistible crush on a friend’s husband.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up: Mornings & Sleep Woes

• Location update: Joanne’s broadcasting from her “office” in Derry, Vogue’s in London.

• Motherhood mayhem: Vogue recounts a hectic school run—including carrying her son Otto, his scooter, and the family dog ([00:47]).

• Sleep troubles: Both hosts swap tales of rough nights. Joanne blames Red Bull and “emotionally unregulated” hotel rooms ([01:37]).

  • Notable Quote (Joanne, 01:37):
    “Hotel rooms emotionally, physically, heat wise... they just can't regulate themselves.”

2. Media Recommendations & Pop Culture

• True Crime & Book Club:

  • Joanne recommends the dramatized Murdoch Murders on Disney Plus ([02:30]), describing it as a “true crime beauty.”

  • Vogue shouts out “One Good Thing” by Alexandra Potter, loving it “from the second page” ([05:00]).

  • The pair banter about Vogue’s use of abbreviations, with Joanne threatening to fund “a clinic to treat abbreviations” ([06:08]).

  • Notable Quote (Joanne, 06:08):
    “There’s a clinic we can send her to—to treat abbreviations. I’m willing to chip in.”

• Caroline Flack Documentary:

  • Vogue describes its emotional resonance and insider perspectives ([03:02]); Joanne reflects on the public misunderstanding and media portrayals.
  • Notable Quote (Vogue, 03:57):
    “She was just, like, kind of made an example of... the way the police handled it and how they brought a case to CPS that was never actually a case.”

• All’s Fair & Kim Kardashian’s Acting:

  • Discussion on the new Disney Plus series “All’s Fair” starring Kim Kardashian ([09:19]).
  • The show’s negative critical reception is dissected (zero percent on Rotten Tomatoes), but Vogue finds it addictively fun and mindless ([09:24-12:58]).
  • Joanne sarcastically admires Kim’s “deadpan” acting, calling it her “brand” ([11:20]).
  • Notable Quote (Joanne, 11:20):
    “Kim K’s acting style is very much my brand...delivering the line with one eye, absolutely no facial reaction, no movement.”

3. Listener Dilemma: Crush on a Friend’s Husband

Timestamp: [14:28 – 19:38]

• A listener shares that she has developed a major crush on her friend’s “beautiful” husband, who is flirty—hugging and holding her at a gathering. She admits to sexual fantasies and masturbating about him, and says her marriage is struggling, with no recent intimacy.
• The hosts’ advice:

  • Vogue suggests the feelings are more about unfulfilled intimacy in the listener’s marriage, reminding her that fantasies are normal.

  • Joanne is blunter, saying that situations like this—friends fancying partners—are common and many affairs begin this way.

  • They both agree: Do not pursue the attraction, especially with a holiday planned with the couple; enjoy the fantasy but avoid crossing boundaries.

  • Notable Quote (Vogue, 17:29):
    “Even when you're married, it doesn't mean that your brain just switches off...it's completely normal to think people are attractive.”

  • Notable Quote (Joanne, 16:53):
    “I think this happens all the time...I’d say a lot of affairs happen because of it. Because ultimately your partner, long term, you're bored of them after a while and then you [get] fresh meat...”

  • Notable Quote (Joanne, 18:18):
    “If you're an attractive person who gets a lot of your validation from being attractive, that muscle doesn't go away...you need that for the rest of your life.”

4. Listener Story: The 80th Birthday Ding-Dong Ditch

Timestamp: [19:57 – 23:48]

• A listener and former hotel receptionist regales the hosts with a standout story:

  • A couple complained about noisy neighbors, thinking they’d been placed near a hen party.

  • On reviewing security footage, the culprit turned out to be a group of elderly women (for an 80th birthday), drunk and playing “ding-dong ditch” at 2am—one even falling over with her zimmer frame ([21:16]).

  • Both the hosts and the aggrieved couple find the story hilarious and heartwarming, agreeing they hope to be as wild at 80.

  • Notable Quote (Joanne, 22:53):
    “Let that [elderly] energy find me. Oh, like, I hope I never stop — that's my dream for myself.”

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On mindless TV:

  • “I'm sorry. I just, I struggle really now to, to, to tear it apart. I, I've enjoyed it. And if that says a lot about me, I don't care. I just want mindless TV.” (Vogue, 12:58)

• On fantasy vs reality:

  • “Think about the consequences of taking that into the real world...just enjoy the frustration.” (Joanne, 19:31)

• On growing old disgracefully:

  • “I will never understand how Joanne made it unscathed to 80.” (Vogue, 23:48)
  • “I'd be dragging the tank around the cafeteria with me, off my chops, with just a face of you stuck to a balloon. Remember, she's dead.” (Joanne, 24:13)

Important Timestamps

• [00:47] — Vogue’s chaotic morning drop-off story
• [01:37] — Joanne’s Red Bull-fueled hotel insomnia
• [02:30] — Murdoch Murders recommendation
• [03:02] — Caroline Flack documentary discussion
• [05:00] — Book recommendation: “One Good Thing”
• [06:08] — “A clinic for treating abbreviations” joke
• [09:19 – 12:58] — Kim Kardashian's “All’s Fair” debate
• [14:28 – 19:38] — Listener dilemma: The friend’s hot husband
• [19:57 – 23:48] — The 80th birthday ding-dong ditch hotel story

Tone & Style

The hosts mix playful teasing, unfiltered honesty, and quick wit, tackling taboo topics and everyday mishaps with warmth and irreverence. Their banter is unmistakably Irish, full of shorthand, gentle slagging, and genuine empathy.

Summary Takeaway

Expect more “therapy” from friends than professionals, more laughter than lecturing, and a willingness to confront awkward truths head-on—whether it’s about celebrity trash TV, marital fantasies, or future wild nights in a retirement home.