MTGM EXTRA! "My Mum is quite judgemental..."

Summary

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Podcast Summary

My Therapist Ghosted Me – MTGM EXTRA! "My Mum is quite judgemental..."
Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Date: September 17, 2025
Episode Focus:
This episode is a candid, humorous, and heartfelt exploration of judgment, relationships, aging, facelifts, pet grief, and the complexities of parental opinions. Vogue and Joanne answer a listener dilemma about introducing a much-older partner to a judgmental mother while interweaving their signature blend of wit, personal anecdotes, and cheeky banter.

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Main Theme Overview

The episode's central theme is a listener’s struggle to tell her judgmental mother about her new, significantly older boyfriend. Vogue and Joanne offer advice, reflect on age-gap relationships, and examine how family judgment and societal expectations can influence our choices. The conversation is spiced with relatable stories about facial aesthetics, pet loss, their own relationships, and plenty of outrageous laughs.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Aging, Facelifts & Facial Aesthetics

• Joanne jokes about her and Vogue’s obsession with facial treatments and the latest facelift technology.
  • Joanne: “We’re basically running hospitals out here between the two of us.” (01:01)
  • Discusses a recent article on advancing facelift quality, with even mediocre doctors getting good results thanks to new tech. (01:16)
  • Joanne considers getting touch-ups in South Korea en route from Australia.
• The pair riff about aging as Irish women, lamenting rapid aging, and joke about needing “new faces.”
  • Joanne: “We age in dog years… because we’re completely translucent.” (02:27)

2. Pet Grief & Family Dynamics

• Vogue discusses her ailing dog, Winston, and the emotional difficulty of considering euthanasia.
  • Vogue: “It is really hard losing a pet… It’s going to be awful.” (05:09)
• Anecdotes about family overreacting to pets’ illnesses, with humor about relatives quickly jumping to “putting down” pets at the first sign of distress.
  • Joanne: “She’s like the antithesis of David Attenborough. The second an animal sneezes, she’s like, put it down.” (04:04)
• Reflections on loss: both hosts joke about avoiding future loss by avoiding attachments (pets, relationships).
  • Joanne: “That’s the way I feel about relationships and parents. I wish I’d had none of them. I wish I had never had any parents. We should’ve just been spat into the earth alone.” (06:02)

3. Singlehood vs. Relationship Culture

• Discussion about societal shifts: people having babies later, more women prioritizing careers, greater financial independence, and the freedom to remain single or in committed relationships.
  • Joanne: “Women are having a lot of children out of wedlock because women aren’t settling… We’re cool.” (06:57)
• Vogue gleefully shares her medically proven “young ovaries” and jokes about her reproductive health.
  • “You’ve got young ovaries!” (07:12)
• Riffs on being good at relationships or simply being wired to avoid singlehood.

4. Comedy on the Road, Sex Cruises & Pregnancy Kinks

• Joanne recounts a gig in Bournemouth where she suspected an audience member fancied her, sighing that after her performance, that crush would surely be gone.
  • Joanne: “After the show, obviously does no longer. There’s no way that crush will stay… I frightened it out of him.” (08:59)
• Hilarious tangent about possibly performing on a “sex cruise” and contemplating the wild tabloid headlines if Vogue joined while pregnant.
  • Vogue: “Spenny would definitely let me on the sex cruise…” (11:33)

5. Listener Dilemma: Judgmental Mum & Age-Gap Relationship (Starts ~13:26)

• The listener feels anxious telling her mum about a new boyfriend who’s 20 years older (27 vs. 47), especially as her mum is proud of her for finally “being alone.”
• She considers lying about the man’s age to soften the blow but feels guilty.
• She’s been in back-to-back relationships, has never used dating apps, and feels judged for her relational history.

Hosts’ Advice and Take

• Both agree the mother will almost certainly object but encourage honesty.
  • Joanne: “Your mum’s not gonna be happy with that… But who are we to decide?” (16:03)
  • Vogue: “No point in hiding it from your mum. It is what it is… I’d probably just bite the bullet and let her know.” (19:19)
• Recognition that age gaps can work if the couple is happy; it’s more about compatibility and the happiness of those involved.
• Some people simply prefer being in relationships rather than single, and that is OK.
  • Joanne: “Some people are just really good at being in relationships. It’s lovely. The companionship of a relationship is lovely.” (20:10)
• Multiple jokes about “sending him to Debby Thomas/the laser lady” or Faceland in Amsterdam for a little cosmetic freshness before meeting Mum.
  • Joanne: “Ask him would he consider getting his bluffs done before he meets your mother?” (20:06)
• Ultimately, they stress: It's the listener’s life to live, not her mum’s, and parental opinions should matter less than personal happiness.
  • Joanne: “In the olden days, people live for their parents. Not anymore. No, we’re punks now.” (20:33)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Facial Aesthetics:
  Joanne (01:01): “We’re basically running hospitals out here between the two of us.”
  Vogue (01:08): “Joanne likes to test drive everything, so I let her test drive something in case her face falls off.”

• On Pet Grief:
  Joanne (04:04): “She’s the antithesis of David Attenborough… The second an animal sneezes, she’s like, put it down.” Joanne (05:41): “This is the tax of love, is the pain of loss.”

• On Family, Loss & Relationships:
  Joanne (06:02): “That’s the way I feel about relationships and parents. I wish I had none of them. I wish I never had any parents. We should’ve just been spat into the earth alone.” Vogue (06:14): “Alone, there’s less to lose.” Joanne (08:07): “I look forward to being wildly irritated by your next pregnancy.”

• On Relationship Age Gaps:
  Joanne (16:03): “Well, I follow a couple on Insta with a significant age gap… But they seem to be genuinely madly in love… If something works, it works. Who are we to decide?” Joanne (17:22): “I’d probably… go out with a sixty-year-old, like a decent one. Not an admits one. Like Kevin Costner.”

• On Living for Yourself:
  Joanne (20:33): “In the olden days, people live for their parents. Not anymore. No, we’re punks now.” Vogue (20:35): “You have to live… She’ll be fine. She just wants you to be happy.”

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Important Timestamps

• 00:58–02:37 – Facial aesthetics and "rotting" as Irish women
• 03:09–05:45 – Stories about aging pets, grief, and being emotionally attached
• 06:51–07:31 – Medical chat about ovarian health, modern fertility
• 08:19–10:28 – Comedy shows, attractive audience members, and sex cruise anecdotes
• 13:26–20:35 – Listener dilemma: Judgmental mum and a 20-year age-gap relationship; advice and banter
• 20:35–21:32 – Autonomy vs. parental approval; lighthearted sexting/oversharing jokes

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Conclusion

The episode blends humor, honesty, and compassion, as Vogue and Joanne affirm that each person’s romantic life and happiness are their own responsibility, not their parents’. The hosts encourage bravery, honesty, and owning one’s choices—along with a few laughs at the prospect of cosmetic tune-ups and accidental sexts between friends.

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Transcript

[A]

This is a Global Player original podcast. Hello, welcome to my therapist Ghost Me with me, Joanne McNally and her.

[B]

I actually can't hear you because I've knocked off my headphones, so thank you. I'm lip reading, which I'm actually quite good at because of the bad hearing. Pog Williams.

[A]

There you go. Yeah, Pogue Williams. And our. And our carer, Joe Ashywell.

[C]

Someone needs to have me in at some point because you two are now visibly younger than I am and it's getting unacceptable.

[B]

Joe, you have a child and you're very tired, so we. We can't really help with that because when in a couple of months when the baby feels better, we'll get you a facial. But it would only be wasted on you now. You'll still look wrecked.

[A]

Joe, I can tell you now, I know there are not a lot of perks to working with Vogue and I, but if there's one thing we can offer, it's facial aesthetics, connections.

[B]

It's new face. It's new face.

[A]

That is one thing we have in abundance. Yeah, we basically. We're basically running hospitals out here between the two of us.

[B]

Yeah. And Joanne likes to test drive everything, so I let her test drive something in case her face falls off. And then if it doesn't fall off, I'll head in after.

[A]

Wow. There was a really interesting article recently in the course and all about kind of the quality of facelifts now and how they're saying, like, even doctors who aren't that good at lifting faces are getting really good results because there's all this new technology and new machines and everything. But anyway, because I'm going to be going to Australia later on in the year, and a friend of mine was also going to Australia and we were like, would we nip into South Korea on the way home and get a little. Get a little. Get a little.

[B]

A little too. I would feel like you need to get a new passport.

[A]

I was like, my, my.

[B]

I'm sorry, mom, you can't fly on this. Why not?

[A]

I hope they turn me into a tiny South Korean woman. That would be my dream.

[B]

If I could just be bronzed. It's just about the bronze for me you want. Well, I know, I know, but I'm always trying. Fake town. But if I could just be naturally.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not white, basically. Yeah. We do age the worst.

[B]

We do. We rot. We don't. All we do is we're born and we rot. And it takes. It's very difficult for us to keep stuff up because the rotting is so intense.

[A]

Yeah, they used to say it in Prosecco express the punishment for the privilege. We age in dog years. Yeah. Hideous. Cuz we're completely translucent.

[B]

Oh, my God, poor Winnie. We were laughing about him on the pod last week. He's not. Oh, poor Winnie. I know he's not great. He's not great. And Amber, of course, right? We used to have this cat called Monkey and Amber rarely pet monkey and when she did pass pet monkey, she's like, oh, Jesus, we should take her to the vet. All her bones are sticking out of the. Her back and so should we bring monkeys? The vet. And Amber was like, we understand, we know you have to put her down. And the vet just looked at. Amber was like, it's actually, it's, it's just matted fur, so I'll just shave it off. So Amber.

[A]

What?

[B]

So it's just matted fur? Amber thought her bones were sticking.

[A]

Was this. I already have some questions about the monkey story. Was this a family cat or is this recently?

[B]

No, this is our family Cash. This is the cat that Frederick had but. And she lived to many, many years. But she didn't need to put down her down when Amber suggested it. But Winston hasn't been well and I had him in the vet this week and he had to stay a couple of nights and he's back now, but like he's not really eating, he's just gone. I know I've been crying loads, but he's all right now and he's. And he's back and he's not really eating. So Amber's obviously been over this weekend and he's, he's been like sedated and stuff in the vet, so he's a little bit slower. She's gone home and I get a text from Neil and it's like he's basically telling me to put Winnie down as well. I'm like, what the hell has she gone to say? I was like, I'm not going to keep him alive for my own benefit, but I'm not going to put him down because Amber thinks he's moving too slowly. She's like, yes.

[A]

She's like the antithesis of David Attenburg. She's like the, the complete polar opposite of David Attenborough. She's like, the second an animal sneezes, she's like, put it down. Yeah, get rid of the animal.

[B]

Neil said, he said, he said. I hate to bring up the subject because I know how upsetting it is for you and the kids, unfortunately. I think poor Winston is coming to end of his time. Sorry, Neil, when did you last see Winston? I'm so sorry to be saying this, and it's. And it's very distressing, but you have to show selfless, selfless love. So I'm gonna ring Amber now and give her a bottle. She'll have me put down next.

[A]

I was gonna say, it sounds like Neil would have you put down.

[B]

They nearly had me off when I had that flu. They were sending me to Switzerland.

[A]

Yeah, Spany getting a text going, sorry, no, Spencer, it's time to show some selfless love.

[B]

Get rid of her.

[A]

She's not going to recover from this. Well, you know, really hard using a pass. I know he's still with us, but it is really hard losing a pass.

[B]

It is. It's gonna. Honestly, it's gonna. I feel bad. I feel bad for Span. I am gonna. It's not gonna be good. Even Bertie was like, where's Winnie? Who am I gonna annoy? When he was gone off in the vets for a couple of days.

[A]

This is.

[C]

It does go. We'll add a. We'll add a minute silence at the end of one of the podcasts in his memory if he does.

[A]

Or we can replay that coughing video. Is that too dark?

[B]

I actually got a vid for when. Before he went into the vet to show how bad he was. So we could just overlay some nice music to that and offer. Yeah, silence.

[A]

This is the tax of love, is the pain of loss.

[B]

Honestly, I. But, like, I was honestly thinking to myself, I was like, I'm not getting another dog after this. I am not Touchwood. Like Winnie. Like, he might. He's on steroids now. I'm giving him all I can and. But I just. I think, honestly, I don't think. I think I'll be so upset by this that I think I'll have to. I don't want to know the dog.

[A]

No, yeah, I. Yeah, I understand it. That's the way I feel about relationships and parents. I wish I had none of them. I wish I never had any parents. We should just been spat into the earth alone.

[B]

Alone, there's less. There's less to lose.

[A]

I never want to be in love again. I can't bear losing it all. It's awful. A fish I could probably cope with. I could. I could at this stage of my life now, a fish or a child, because I know I'd go first.

[C]

Fine.

[A]

So I'd be like, I'd Give birth. And I'm like, haha, psych.

[B]

See you later.

[A]

Yeah, you're it. And then I'd be like, you're gonna have to deal with losing me now. Which would be nice.

[B]

I know, but I was thinking that because I was like, imagine I had another child. So if I did that, what age would I be? And then I'm like, oh my God. I'd be like, I'd be on the way out pretty, pretty early in our life because, like, we're lucky. My mom is. Well, she's in her 70s, I suppose.

[A]

Yeah. But there's. Everything's different now. Society and people live longer and people are having babies longer or Sorry. And later in life because women prioritizing their career. And then women are having a lot of children out of wedlock because women aren't settling to just get married to someone because we have more financial independence. It's a whole vibe. We're cool.

[B]

Yeah. I got my eggs checked the other day and she actually said to me, she was like, oh, you've got young ovaries. And. Yeah, and I was double dropping again. Remember? I was double dropping. Maybe you're right.

[A]

Sorry. No, there's no maybe. This is so you've been so medically tested to prove. I've been proven correctly. Twice.

[B]

Twice, yeah.

[A]

So I am right. Just to clarify. Yeah, thank you.

[B]

But the thing about it is the ovaries aren't old, so. And I think that that's to do with if you, if you. I don't know if it's true. If there's a doctor listening, they're probably like, here they bloody go again. I think if you get your period later, would that not suggest that you would, gentlemen? Because remember, I was hanging around for my period for so many years. No. Okay.

[A]

It could be. Yeah. Because you're like a slow start.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So you get more out of it. Yeah, that could be it. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. Anyway, anyway, good luck on your journey.

[B]

Thank you very much. Anything to add, Joe?

[A]

I look forward to being wildly irritated by your next pregnancy.

[B]

Joanne will hang up the next time. She'll be like. We'll be like, let's call a special moment. Joe. Johnny, be like this.

[A]

I'm out. I'll come back to the podcast when it's out. M. I was doing I'm on the Road, as we know, and I was doing a show in Bournemouth last night, and there was three very attractive straight men in the front row and me and Garage were desperately trying to Figure out how, why, what they were doing there. And I think one of them fancied me.

[B]

Really?

[C]

Well, I think.

[A]

I think. Yeah, I think one of them did. And now after the show, obviously does no longer. There's no way that crush will stay. Obviously.

[B]

You frightened it out of him. Oh, gee. Oh, she's intense.

[A]

Yeah. He's like, oh, without. I thought that was all an act. Yeah. I think I should. If I see a hot man in the audience like that again, I'm just gonna do an error spoken word. I'm just. I'm just gonna try and. I'm just gonna really try and rein it all in.

[B]

Or ask him to leave and say, you'll meet him after.

[A]

Garod said that he had spent his first five minutes of a set dedicating it directly to them.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so do they just disappear after? I think you should. And if that happens again now, you know, just say, listen, you're gonna actually have to leave. But if you wait at the side entrance, I'll be out five minutes after the show and you can pop in for a drink.

[A]

Yeah. Or maybe I'll go into the crowd like one of those cruise singers and, like, sit in their lap, you know.

[B]

What'S her name that everyone loves? Jane.

[A]

Jane McDonald.

[B]

Cruising with Jane McDonald.

[A]

Do you know that I was. I don't know if this will ever happen, but there was. I was offered a job on a sex cruise. I said yes.

[B]

My present. Oh, great.

[A]

Yeah, I said yes, but it's not till this summer, I think. But I don't know if I never. It never came back. These jobs. Sometimes jobs come in and you never hear anything about them again. But I was like, it would be an honor and a privilege. I was seeing a guy at the time when I was offered the job, and he said, can I go? And I was like, I wouldn't see you from one end of the cruise to the next, you absolute feral dog. No, you can call them.

[B]

And if I'm not, I might get myself pregnant on the ship.

[A]

Yeah. And then I'll. Then they'll be like, right, well, we'll take the one that's not pregnant. So, like, thanks, guys. See you later, folk. As I head off, I'll have you.

[B]

Know there is pregnancy kinks. Thank you very much. I'm not pregnant, by the way. It sounds like I'm pregnant. No, I know you're not pregnant.

[A]

There's pregnancy kinks. Yeah, of course there is. There's kinks for everything.

[B]

I know. There really is. Oh, my God. That would bring us so much joy. That would get weeks of content for us. You could just, like, you could just drop some in every so often.

[A]

I. Do you know what? You. I'm actually gonna go back now and I'm going to follow up on that and find out what's happening with that, because I need that to happen and you need to come with me.

[B]

We need it to happen. Yeah, we. I'll come with you, but, like, I'm gonna be the lurker in the. I'll be the wanker. I'm the wanker. No, I'll be the wanker in the corner.

[A]

You can't come. Why? Spencer won't let you go on a sex cruise, especially if you're pregnant. The objects are not good.

[B]

I think the Daily Mail on a sex cruise.

[A]

I think the Daily Mail showbiz department would literally explode.

[B]

I'm coming. I'm spending. Are you mad? Spenny would definitely let me on the sex cruise. He's worried that in later life I'm going to turn around and decide that I want to be worldly because I haven't been worldly enough. My life.

[A]

Oh, okay, that's. Yeah, that seems like a reasonable.

[B]

What happens at sea, what happens on international waters.

[A]

Do whatever you want is intern.

[B]

Nothing is legal out there. You're not even married anymore out there on international waters. There's no contrast there.

[A]

That's why when someone dies at sea, it's really complicated. Really complicated. Because everyone's like, it's not our problem. And then the. Yeah, the police have to be involved. Everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So just if we just. Let's just not die because it would be. Just make everything very complicated.

[B]

For God's sake, don't do that. Then I'll be stuck hanging around waiting for you. Don't you know I don't have the patience for that. I'm not waiting. But she's not dead.

[A]

She just passed out. She'd be grand.

[B]

She's gone. I'll wheel her off like. Like your mouth. She's fine.

[A]

She hasn't ridden anyone in a year. She's exhausted. She's not taking a man of town and had a ride. Half a bottle of white, she'd be grand. In three days, thrown water over my face.

[B]

She's go. She's thrilled. That's her happ.

[A]

By the way, I am in Plymouth this week, this Thursday, the 18th, which I haven't pushed at all because there was some issues with the venue and we didn't know if it was going to go ahead. So I am going to Plymouth and then Yeovil. My arch enemies. Can't wait to see you both. Tickets available. Blah blah blah.

[B]

I love that you're just Joanne just gonna keep going back to Yovo. She just will never ever stop. There'll be one person in the audience. I don't care. I don't care.

[A]

It's the one that got away. I'm like, I'll just keep going back.

[B]

Hi girls. I'm hoping you can help me decide on how to approach telling my mom about my new boyfriend. I'm close with my mom and want to be honest with her, but she is quite judgmental and there are a couple of things I know she's going to judge me for if I tell her about him. And although I wish I didn't care, I hate the thought of her talking to my sister and auntie about this. Like I know she has other aspects of my life before. Oh we all about each other.

[A]

Well, it's chat, it's discussion really. Yeah, it's discussion.

[B]

Like if Amber tells. If Amber does something, I'll ring my mom and tell her and tell my mom not to tell Amber.

[A]

Yeah, it's human nature. Everyone's. We inform each other of what's going on, whether it be negative or positive.

[B]

Okay, for context, I broke up my ex recently. We'd been together three and a half years, living together, have a dog, etc. The breakup was a long time coming and we are amicable and fully getting on with our individual lives now. When I got together with my now ex, I was not long out of another three year relationship and the same again before that. So I've been in back to back relationships. I'm very aware that this isn't the ideal situation but it has just fallen way and even if I'm not looking for someone, I get swept off my feet.

[A]

Jesus.

[B]

I would say that used to. Well that kind of. You know. I do think it's good to be single for a while cuz I didn't do that for a very long time and it was only when I was like 30 that I actually did it. Each breakup I've had my mom always makes comments about I should how I should avoid meeting anyone for a while, taking a break, being alone. I even remember her making comments like this from when I was a teenager. I know she means well but it's so frustrating because I'm not in any way trying to meet someone. It just happens organically. I've never even been been on apps. Oh anyway yeah, how are you going out?

[A]

Who is this woman?

[B]

Okay then if I do tell her. Oh no. Anyway, she doesn't know about my new man and every time I see her she keeps saying how proud she is of me for being alone. I'm in a new era.

[A]

Oh no.

[B]

How it's what I'm ready for. Etc. I feel really guilty not telling her, but I just know she'll be disappointed with me. We are becoming pretty serious now and I know there's only so long I can put it off for. Then if I do tell her, I'm considering lying about his age. So the gap doesn't seem as big. I've always been with older men, but this is the biggest gap so far. My mum certainly has no problems with my ex being 10 years older than me, but I also feel like he came across 10 years younger than he was. Oh yeah.

[A]

Well, that's how that works. Oh God.

[B]

For this I'm 27 and my new guy is 47. Okay, your mom isn't. My mom wouldn't be happy with that. Your mom's not going to be happy with us.

[A]

Well, I follow a couple on Insta with a significant age gap. I don't know how I came across them and he's, I mean, like, sorry now, but it is the stereotypical situation. He's older, insignificantly older, loaded. She's young and hot. But they seem to be genuinely madly in love. They really are, I can tell. Do you know what I mean? If something works, it works. Who are we to decide.

[B]

Exactly? No, ultimately the age gap doesn't make any difference to us. We are totally content and happy with each other and how things are going. We want the same things. We've already been on holiday together. Jesus Christ. You're very good at relationships and overall has no impact on a relationship. Unlike my ex, this guy does look his age. And I feel like it makes my parents a bit of a shock to see me with someone who clearly looks physically so much older than me. Oh, she's thinking of lying about the age and saying he's 40 instead. I don't think that's a. Well, that's a white lie.

[A]

I have figured out why she's so good at getting into relationships. She's obviously like a hot 27 year old. What? What? 47 year old is not gonna try and hook up with a hot 27 year old if he thinks he has a chance? If you're going for men who are 20 years older than you, like, you know, you know, like, of course like she's a young hot thing.

[B]

I'd probably, to be honest with you, I'd probably go out with a six year old like a decent one. Not, not an admits one. Like Kevin Costner. Isn't he like 67? I'm still mad about him. He's a new girlfriend, raging. Well, I don't know why I'm so upset about that.

[A]

She's probably much, if she's 27 going out to 47 year old, she's probably quite mature for her age. Yeah, we all, I, I, we all knew couples like that growing up. We always had that one female friend who had that boyfriend who was significantly older than the rest of us and the rest of our boyfriends, didn't we?

[B]

Yeah, well I used to have a boyfriend that was older than me but, but now Spenny's actually younger than me.

[A]

I think 10 was the, 10 years older than me was the eldest was the biggest age gap I ever had.

[B]

Yeah, I think I had eight. But now I would go, it just depends. Like obviously your mom, your mom is going to be pissed off. She just will be like, you don't you want your dog?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the reason she wants you to be single is because she wants you to go out and live your life and have like fun and everything like that. But some people aren't like, it's not like you're not having fun by being in a relationship, but I think people are built differently. Some people just enjoy being in relationships and that's just where they find themselves all the time.

[A]

I think mothers as well, they're always, they're always devil's advocate or something. They're all like, if, if she sees you going into relationship after relationship after relationship, she's not you, she doesn't know how you feel, she doesn't know what you need. She thinks she does but like she's not in your head, she's not in your heart. So she just wants you to experience life without a boyfriend. Like I know girls, I know girls who are married to the lads that we, they met when we were 15, 16 and they're having a, they're, they're, they're happy, like they're having a ball. Do you know what I mean? They've never had a period of singleness but like they're fine. It's not like you're. Yeah, look, I do think, obviously I do think because I spend most of my time single but like I think it is really good to know how to be on your own. I do think it's an important skill to have so that you don't settle for when it's bad because you're nervous about being on your own. But that doesn't sound like this, what this woman is doing at all.

[B]

Yeah. No. Well, I think there's just. There's no point in hiding it from your mom. It is what it is. And the longer you lie, the longer you get into it, it's just going to be a bit awkward. And you've been on holidays with all that stuff. I'd probably just bite the bullet and let her know.

[A]

You have to let her know. She's your mom. She's gonna let her know. It probably will be awkward. She'll probably have a reaction. You just have to power through us.

[B]

Send them into Debbie Thomas now, before they meet. And she'll. She'll knock a few years off him.

[A]

Grant, the laser lady. Yeah. Would Korea be an option?

[B]

What was that? Plastic surgery. What was the plastic surgery thing that you had? Remember months ago, we were talking about some weird plastic surgery place name that I had. No, you didn't.

[A]

Faceland in Amsterdam.

[B]

Face Land.

[A]

Yeah. Everyone's going over to get their blasts done. Ask him what he considered getting his bluffs done before he meets your mother. No, but seriously, I think some people are just really good at being in relationships. They don't. It's not like they're. They're not running scared towards people. I like being in relationships. It's lovely. Like, it's hard being single. The companionship of relationship is lovely. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Your mom's gonna ultimately, like, when it comes down to it, it's your life.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

You have to live.

[B]

She'll be fine. She just want you to be happy.

[A]

In the olden days, people live for their parents. Not anymore. No, we're punks now. She says, about to ring her mom again. Hiya.

[B]

When are you coming over?

[A]

Yeah. What you doing? I had a dream last night that Pat was on a mobility scooter and I was pushing around and then my phone beeped and her phone beeps at the same time. And I realized that she was in my messages. And I was like, pat, I said, how could you do that? And she's like, I'm sorry. I just wanted to know where you were. And I was like, but there's sexual stuff in there. There's sexual stuff. And she's like, I don't mind. I don't read everything. I was like. Then I woke up and I was like, jesus Christ.

[B]

Whose sexual. Have you been texting myself my old.

[A]

Irish number just to keep things alive.

[B]

She does. She actually sends me the odd one. I'm like, joanne, I told you I don't want it anymore.

[A]

I just need a release. Voga, I've taken this beautiful nude and I've nowhere to send it. I'm like sending it. Like, don't open that.

[B]

Stop.

[A]

Bother opening it. I just need it. I'm like one of those lads, a flasher. Do you know you just get the. You just. I just need to send.

[C]

Maybe just tell me what you're wearing.

[A]

Yeah, you're right. Actually, I'll just. I'll go. I'll go to script.

[B]

See you later, everyone. Thanks my name for listening and do keep sending your emails into Juwan.

[A]

Hit it. [e-mail].

[B]

Oh, yeah, thanks, Melene. Guys.

[A]

Nailed us.

[B]

I know it, I know it. [e-mail].