My Therapist Ghosted Me – MTGM EXTRA! "Questioning my sexuality..."

Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Date: November 19, 2025

Episode Overview

In this lively bonus episode, Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally dive into listener dilemmas with their signature irreverence and candour. The central question comes from a gay male listener who is happily in a relationship but experiencing new, intense sexual urges toward women. With classic MTGM humour, Vogue and Joanne dissect the complexities of sexual identity, fleeting desires, societal expectations, and the absurd rules people try to enforce on others – all while sharing personal anecdotes about everything from ADHD to dead badgers and their own bizarre dreams.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Technical Troubles & ADHD Anecdotes

• Joanne arrives dishevelled and admits forgetting both her microphone and headphones, blaming her ADHD diagnosis (00:42).
• “I’ve ADHD. Now I’m disabled. Nothing is my fault anymore. I’m disabled in the mind. It’s official.” – Joanne (00:44)
• The two banter about the distractions and life-management chaos that comes with such diagnoses, setting a tone of self-aware humour.

2. Nightlife, Shows, & Living Disasters

• Joanne recounts being on “the lash” after a show, losing her hotel key, and waking up with last night’s makeup smeared (01:43).
• “Joanne’s like, right up close to the camera. She has last night’s makeup on. Definitely hasn’t put a brush through the hair yet. Eyes are very red…” – Vogue (02:03)

3. Relationships, Rumours, & Public Scrutiny

• Vogue discusses gossip columns and the public’s obsession with her marriage to Spencer, including false rumours about their imminent breakup due to spending time apart (05:44).
• The duo note double standards in how working mothers are judged compared to men, and call out “faux feminism” that women propagate against each other (07:06).
• “You can be a working mom and also be a great mom. There should be no shade around that.” – Vogue (07:50)

4. Listener Dilemma: Questioning Sexuality

• Main Segment Start: (10:36)
• A listener email details a gay man, happily coupled but experiencing sexual dreams and urges about women—prompting confusion and guilt.
• “I feel there’s a part of me that’s urging to explore my sexuality again… I feel dirty and even guilty…” – Listener’s email (14:31)

Reactions & Personal Reflections

• Both hosts immediately normalize sexual curiosity, dreams, and changing attractions.
• Personal Stories: Joanne jokes about her own strange dreams (e.g., about Gemma Collins), and Vogue about massaging a male friend—emphasizing how dreams need not dictate real-life action (13:27).
• Joanne candidly congratulates the listener’s libido: “I am genuinely envious of this guy who wants to ride everyone! I think this is fantastic, honestly.” (15:02)

Advice & Takeaways

• The hosts stress that fleeting desires or dreams don’t automatically define one's identity, and guilt over thoughts is unnecessary.
• They suggest waiting a few months; if the feelings persist, consider next steps—but not to act outside the boundaries of one’s relationship (16:08).
• Joanne, with characteristic bluntness: “Women are hot. Scratch that itch. I’m so jealous you even have an itch to scratch.” (16:08)
• Both note that many people, including “straight” men, experience hidden or fluid desires, debunking rigid identity categories (16:33).

5. Sexual Fluidity & Modern Labels

• “The beauty of modern life is there are no boxes anymore. There’s no lanes. Do what you want.” – Joanne (17:07)
• Listeners are encouraged to embrace the spectrum of sexual identity and resist external pressure to fit into binary definitions.

6. Irreverent Banter and Closing Bits

• The show wraps up with additional playful disclosures about sexual curiosity, including a playful interrogation of producer Joe about “tucking” (17:55).
• Joanne jokes about her practical approach to relationships: “I wanted a rich fella. I don’t care if he’s impotent. So I’ll fold it in like an origami master.” (18:51)

Notable Quotes and Moments

• On the relentless expectations of women:
  “It’s like you can only be one thing… and the worst part about it is it’s usually women saying it.” – Vogue (07:38)
• On curiosity vs. guilt:
  “I think that’s completely normal…like, it’s difficult for you not to maybe give it a go, but if you’re in a relationship, I wouldn’t suggest doing that.” – Vogue (15:42)
• On sexual identity:
  “There are no boxes anymore. There’s no lanes. Do what you want.” – Joanne (17:07)
• On libido envy:
  “I am dead from the waist down at the moment… I need to have my genitals resuscitated at this point.” – Joanne (15:02)
• On folding it in:
  “So I’ll fold it in like an origami master.” – Joanne (18:51)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• ADHD & Technical Chaos – 00:42
• Night Out/Lost Keys – 01:43
• Relationship Rumours & Double Standards – 05:44
• Listener Question (Sexuality) – 10:36
• Advice & Discussion on Sexual Identity – 13:27 – 16:33
• No Boxes in Modern Life / Fluidity – 17:07
• “Tucking” Banter and Outro – 17:55 – 19:09

Tone & Language

Honest, self-deprecating, and joyfully unfiltered, the hosts expertly balance compassion with comedic irreverence. Their advice is unqualified but warm, leaning on lived experience and the philosophy that curiosity—and laughter—are always healthy.

For fans and newcomers alike, this episode offers a funny, frank exploration of sexual identity and societal nonsense, anchored by supportive friendship and permission to be gloriously imperfect.