My Therapist Ghosted Me – MTGM EXTRA! "She kept washing... And washing..."

Date: December 10, 2025
Hosts: Joanne McNally, Vogue Williams, Joe
Podcast: My Therapist Ghosted Me (Global)

Overview

In this bonus episode, Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally, joined by Joe, reunite following Vogue's return from Australia and a stint in the jungle (likely referring to a reality show such as I'm a Celebrity...). The trio catch up about travel, discuss the realities of midlife schedules, swap book and podcast recommendations, and dive into a riotously funny listener story about an unexpected massage experience in Glasgow. As always, the conversation is candid, irreverent, and filled with laughter, with the hosts riffing on everything from celebrity memoirs and live shows to awkward (and steamy) massage mishaps.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Catching Up After the Jungle [00:10–02:12]

• Adjustment to Normal Life: Vogue reflects on her return from Australia, missing local coffee (“drank all the coffee I could possibly fit into my body”), the perils of quitting sugar and caffeine, and struggling with time zones.
• Technology Detox: She mentions not missing her phone at all while away: “Once it’s gone, it’s gone… I did consider… what’s going on in the world of celebrity?” [01:45].

2. Fitness, Food, and Australian Lifestyle [02:12–03:57]

• Contrast in Habits: Joanne discusses cycles of physical fitness followed by “sloth phases” – eating petrol station sandwiches and wine while on tour.
  • Joanne: “It’s a room-service, sloth buffet vibe.” [02:31]
• Australian Schedules: Vogue admires Australia’s early-rising culture (“Cafes open at 6am… It’s the right time for me”), while Joanne appreciates the permission colder climates grant for indulgence and lazy winters.

3. Book & Podcast Recommendations [03:57–07:46]

• Books:
  • Vogue: recommends The Wedding People—not wanting to spoil, but says “very early on she comes out with this thing and it’s just like, whoa.” [04:21]
  • Joanne: in the middle of Kathy Burke’s memoir A Mind of My Own, praising Burke’s honest portrayal of her tough childhood:
    Joanne: “But Kathy writes about her childhood in a way that’s so engaging... My god, that woman had a life.” [05:24]
• Podcasts:
  • Joanne: recommends In the Dark (The New Yorker): “Five family members were shot dead… almost nothing about the story is as it seems. It’s really, really good.” [07:00]
  • Vogue gently mocks Joanne’s affinity for true crime: “If you’d like anything around murder and death, Joanne is your woman.” [07:27]

4. Live Show Announcements and Matinee Banter [08:15–12:41]

• Joanne Announces Ninth Apollo Show: Matinee!
  • In a playful, over-the-top tone for Vogue’s benefit, Joanne reveals a daytime show, “It’s a matinee, baby! Yes, matinee.” [08:50]
  • They riff about how this is perfect for those who want early nights and parental responsibilities.
    Vogue: “We start drinking at 12… Three o’clock we sit down, we watch Joanne… bed by…” [09:38]
• Logistics and Worries:
  • Joanne frames the matinee as a “massive experiment,” content even if only 200 show up: “It would actually be even maybe more craic than the scent filling us.” [11:43]

5. Listener Story: “She kept washing… And washing…” [13:06–17:56]

(Title Inspiration)

• Listener’s Thai Massage Experience in Glasgow:
  • Walks in for a massage at a handwritten “Thai massage 45 pounds” sign. The place turns out to be a private residence, and the language barrier with two confused women adds to the surreal atmosphere.
  • She is led to a bedroom, stripped to her underwear, and expects a massage, but instead gets washed with a sponge and soapy water for 20 minutes while being called “sexy.”
  • Realization dawns that a “happy ending” is being offered. Politely declines, pays £45 (and loses the change), and gets escorted to the ATM by a 10-year-old to ensure payment.
    Listener’s summary: “Paid £50, the boy didn’t give me any change, left with damp knickers and learned the handwritten signs in Glasgow are not to be trusted.” [16:56]
• Hosts’ Reactions:
  • Pure delight and disbelief, with both Vogue and Joanne riffing on the awkwardness, professionalism (“nothing but respect for this woman… pre work into the work” [16:22]), and the perennial uncertainty of what to expect in these ‘massage parlours’.
  • Joanne: "I'm not going to soap a lad down, I'm just gonna go straight in with the dry hand..." [16:36]
  • Vogue: “Once you’re in there, you’re going to take the end.” [17:26]
  • Discussion about “happy ending” codes, signs, and the reality of sex work in such environments.

6. Discussion: Happy Endings, Sex Work, and Personal Anecdotes [17:56–20:11]

• Grey Areas of Thai Massage: Joanne and Vogue talk candidly about experiences and perceptions of Thai massage, revealing the tension between genuine treatment and places that offer sexual services.
  • Joanne: “Thai massages are the best in the business… [but] I see signs: please keep pants on. What are these women putting up with?” [18:05]
• *Joanne mentions meeting a "happy ending man" for a TV show (who specializes in pleasuring women, skipping the massage):
  • Vogue (laughing): "Can you say fingering on the pod?" [19:03]
• Empowerment vs. Sadness:
  • Joanne: “I’m turning into a middle-aged man where I’m like, oh do I have to pay for it now? How sad.”
  • Vogue: “Don’t look at it… How empowering.”

7. Gullibility and Jungle Pranks [20:11–21:37]

• Jungle Prank: Vogue shares how she completely believed a contestant’s story about crocodiles wearing gum shields during a challenge, only to realize it was a joke later:
  • Vogue: “I can’t believe that. Believed it the whole time until the end. He was like, folk Vogue. They didn’t have gum shields.” [20:48]
  • Joanne: “I would have absolutely believed that hook, line and sinker… they’ve got armbands and gum shields…” [21:06]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "It’s a room-service, sloth buffet vibe." – Joanne, on her lazy travel periods. [02:31]
• “If you’d like anything around murder and death, Joanne is your woman.” – Vogue, about Joanne’s podcast taste. [07:27]
• “It’s a matinee, baby! Yes, matinee.” – Joanne, announcing the daytime show to Vogue’s delight. [08:50]
• "Paid £50, the boy didn’t give me any change, left with damp knickers and learned the handwritten signs in Glasgow are not to be trusted.” – Listener, on the infamous massage. [16:56]
• "I'm not going to soap a lad down, I'm just gonna go straight in with the dry hand." – Joanne, on efficiency in questionable massage scenarios. [16:36]
• "Once you’re in there, you’re going to take the end." – Vogue, on going through with awkward situations. [17:26]
• "I’m turning into a middle-aged man where I’m like, oh do I have to pay for it now? How sad.” – Joanne, on the realities of adulthood and sex work. [19:30]
• “I can’t believe that. Believed it the whole time until the end. He was like, folk Vogue. They didn’t have gum shields.” – Vogue, on falling for a jungle prank. [20:48]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Return from Australia & Jungle tales: 00:10–02:12
• Lifestyle differences/fitness slumps: 02:12–03:57
• Book and podcast recommendations: 03:57–07:46
• Live show/matinee announcements: 08:15–12:41
• Listener's “Washing” massage story: 13:06–17:56
• Thai Massage & Happy Endings Chat: 17:56–20:11
• Crocodile gum shields story (believability): 20:11–21:37

Tone and Style

The episode is true to the series’ blend of honesty and hilarity—fast-paced, unfiltered, brash, and full of affectionate jibes and genuine warmth between the hosts.

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