Podcast Summary: My Therapist Ghosted Me
Episode: MTGM EXTRA! "She's back in touch..."
Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Release Date: September 3, 2025
Overview
This extra episode centers around the much-anticipated follow-up from a listener who was ghosted by her boyfriend of five years—a story that has intrigued hosts Vogue and Joanne, and their audience, for weeks. The hosts read and react to the listener’s detailed update about the ghosting experience, offering their trademark blend of sharp humor, candid advice, and real empathy for the tough situation. As always, the discussion is peppered with side-splitting digressions, playful self-deprecation, and a dose of not-entirely-qualified wisdom.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Catching Up & Life Updates (00:10 - 08:32)
- Exhaustion & Life Admin: Vogue describes her exhaustion after a day out with her kids at Emerald Park, while Joanne discusses her own mental fatigue from writing and taking ADHD meds.
- Tour Plugs: Joanne briefly plugs upcoming tour dates, joking about fans (including Vogue) constantly checking her website.
- Tracking Each Other: The hosts (and Joe, the producer) consider using "Find My Friends" to keep track of their chaotic schedules, likening themselves to the Three Bears in terms of activity level.
- Quote (Joanne, 03:15): “We’re like the Three Bears. You move too much, Vogue. I move too little. And Joe’s kind of in the middle somewhere.”
- Running Chat & Friendships: Vogue shares self-deprecating stories about running—struggling to keep up with a friend who is 27 weeks pregnant—and reflects on how easy others make exercise look compared to her own struggles.
- Social Battery: Joanne admits her "social battery was dead" after a day of filming, and Vogue concurs even she runs out of steam at times:
- Quote (Joanne, 08:01): “To use the zeitgeist term, my social battery was dead.”
2. The Five-Year Ghosting Update (08:32 - 20:43)
a. Reading the Listener's Email (09:37 - 14:39)
- The Story: The listener recounts how her boyfriend of five and a half years disappeared one Friday night in June, not returning home or responding to her messages. In her panic, she contacts his friends and family, ultimately receiving only a brief message from his mother: "he’s okay, I’ve spoken to him"—and then radio silence.
- Family Involvement: The hosts are appalled that both of the ex's parents were involved in the cover-up—his father even collects his things while she’s at work.
- Quote (Joanne, 11:48): “The mothers, they'll always back their sons... You think they’re your friend, but they’ll always back their sons.”
b. Hosts’ and Producer's Reactions (14:39 - 20:43)
- Empathy & Outrage: Vogue and Joanne express both heartache and fury, calling out the cowardice of the ex and the complicity of his family.
- Quote (Vogue, 12:04): “I wouldn’t allow that. There’s being sound to your son and then there’s: don’t be a coward—deal with this like a man.”
- Quote (Joanne, 12:35): “Two wankers!”
- Legal Advice: Support for the listener’s decision to pursue him in small claims court for unpaid rent, with Joanne cheering her on:
- Quote (Joanne, 15:46): “Small claims for a small man.”
- Brutal Humor: The hosts relieve tension by eviscerating the ex with imaginative, caustic jokes about his personal hygiene and virility.
- Quote (Joanne, 15:51): “I betcha he gets his dick filled with filler.”
- Quote (Joanne, 15:58): “Hung like a pigeon’s foot, I’d say.”
- Quote (Joanne, 17:19): “Yeah, probably, he’s probably got syphilis.”
c. Relating Personal Stories & Lessons (16:43 - 20:43)
- Joanne’s Similar Experience: She shares how an ex once 'ghosted' her for a day, making her genuinely worry about his safety, and how his mother was complicit—never returning her concern.
- Coping with Grief: Both hosts reflect on the pain of breakups and the dark place people enter after heartbreak, particularly after long-term relationships.
- Quote (Vogue, 19:19): “You’d rather just not exist because it’s such an awful feeling... but that level of it lasts about three weeks, and then you come out of the dark a little.”
- Advice on Drinking & Healing: Warn against using alcohol to numb pain, urging healthier ways to cope.
- Quote (Joanne, 18:27): “Drink is not the answer. It will just make you more anxious.”
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “Her chip is broken. She’s just frantic, moving up and down, like she ran to Liverpool this morning. What’s her fucking deal?” — Joanne (03:29)
- “After five years, just... We don’t let men listen to the podcast.” — Joanne (14:36)
- “Bring him to the small claims court... He owes half the rent—and you take the money, and take yourself on holidays.” — Vogue (15:35)
- “He has to live with that behavior now. Scarlet for him. You are in his DNA now as something—a big mistake, something terrible he has done.” — Joanne (20:26)
Segment Timestamps
- Catch-up and jokes, life admin: 00:10 – 08:32
- Listener’s ghosting story introduction: 08:32 – 09:37
- Reading the listener’s email: 09:37 – 14:39
- Hosts’ reactions, legal banter, relationship analysis: 14:39 – 20:43
- Empowerment and moving on: 20:43 – End
Tone & Style
The tone is forthright, irreverent, and caring—a blend of sharp Irish humor, blunt honesty, and the supportive warmth of a conversation between best friends. There’s zero patience for bad behavior, but lots of compassion for those on the receiving end. The hosts mix deep empathy with caustic wit, ensuring laughter even in the most excruciating scenarios.
Takeaways
- Ghosting, especially after a long-term relationship, is emotionally devastating and cowardly—made worse when families play along.
- Stand up for yourself legally when wronged (small claims court for unpaid rent!).
- It’s normal for severe breakup pain to ease after a few weeks, and humor plus supportive friends help you recover.
- Mothers often side with their sons, but the blame belongs with the person who ghosts.
- Don’t numb heartbreak with alcohol—it only prolongs pain.
- Sharing your story helps reclaim control and dignity.
For more listener emails, life advice (unqualified but honest), and plenty of laughter, keep tuning in and contribute your story at hello@mtgmpod.com.