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This is a global production. I've said this before, and I'll say it again. Ride the ugly ones. People love me over here. I'm telling you. Huge.
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I used to came out and saw
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all these kitten heels in the bedroom, and I was like, kitten heels. It's happening. Happening.
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Something's happening.
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Something's happening. We are two professional women doing something professional now. And it's happening. I'm sorry for the delay. I was stuck in traffic.
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This is where I see him. When she does this, the lie unfolds. She doesn't forget that she's told a lie. I thought it was a taxi. My friend. And then you told us that your friend was driving.
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Yes, my friend drove into the traffic, and then we were stuck in the traffic and we couldn't get a taxi.
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Okay, look, I'm here now. Taxi. It was the traffic. You're the worst. You're the worst liar I've ever met in my life. Because you forget five times later.
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Unpacking the detail. The bottom line is the train was delayed and. But I'm here now. That's the main.
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Was the phalanges broken? It was.
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It was the phalange. Yeah. Were you on the same flight in the traffic? Yes, that's what that was.
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God damn phalange.
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Yeah.
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God's sake. Are you pimping out that artist that you've got there? Literally taking over the hills Green.
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It's lovely, isn't it? I'm not actually. I don't even know who it is. Do you know what's Joe makes me, I find curious about art. So I'll be in. So, you know, they kind of like, lovely hotel. The kind of bougie hotels. They've like, gorgeous bits of art in the wall.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And you're kind of struggling to see the name. If I so much as drew a matchstick man and it was on display, I would have Juan McNally like, like, like a really tacky brand. I'm like, you wouldn't have to look for my name is what I'm saying. I put a nanny cam in all of them. And if anyone, like, moved past the photo, I don't know if there was any motion, I'd immediately pop up via zoom and be like, hey, it's Jo McNally. This is my process. This is how much it is. Buy me these. These. These people are too casual.
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Yeah. But I think it might get rid of the riff raff. Because if you're really serious about buying a piece of art, you're gonna find out who has. Has created the art. And art can sometimes be very expensive, I think.
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Well, riff raff is the wrong term. I think we are looking for is tire kickers.
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Tire kickers. That's a great one. Yeah.
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It comes from the old Latin term where if you're selling a car and Facebook market, done deal. Done deal. And they would come around and just. And they'll pretend they're buying the car and they'll just kick the tires and walk off. I walked past a shop the other day.
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Yeah.
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And there was a gorgeous set of bed, lovely batting in the window. And obviously I'm in my 40s now. This turns me on. So I went in and I said, how much is the bedding? And he said, it's a grand. And I went, oh, perfect.
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No, he didn't said a grant.
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He did. That's grand. So I said, of course. Because I didn't want to be like. I went, oh, my God. Yeah, that's actually quite reasonable for a pillow and a sheet.
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I'm just going to go for my lunch, but I will be back.
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Well, instead of just immediately backtracking out of the shop, I obviously kicked tires for a while and started asking the cost. My bad measurements and like, it was a good 40 minutes of talking.
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Now I need three sets. Have you got. Have you got three sets in stock?
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I don't even know if you have to stock any sheets I'm gonna need at that point.
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I can't. I can't hold it. If something is like, like, I literally. If it takes my breath away. Price. I'm like, Jesus. I'm like, no, you're all right.
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Yeah. Vogue.
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How?
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What? Now that you are the face of breakfast radio, how was it?
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I have a two week stint. I'm only borrowing the reins from the amazing Amanda Holden. And like, she.
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Is she in your basement?
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No. She's never letting go of that job.
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I'm gonna see in your basement.
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Basement. If there's any chance of me taking that job, she's got to go in the basement. It's the best.
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Say the word. Say the word and I will put on my velour track suit and I'll get rid of her. Say the word.
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You do have that shed. No, I quite like Amanda. I have to say. I do like her. No, she's got loads of holidays. She's nails this thing. I said to Jamie today, I was like, how come you didn't put as many holidays in as Amanda? I was like, that wasn't clever. Was. It's a Lovely amount of holliers.
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I've got a lot of maze traps at home that haven't been used.
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Do you want to get rid of Amanda? Is it you?
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Say the words.
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This is Britain's Got Talent for Joanne. Is it?
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It's time I slipped into that ball gown myself. She needs to step aside.
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I don't want to sound like a bad mother. Okay. I don't want to sound like that.
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Then don't speak.
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Wait.
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Don't speak then.
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I couldn't wait to go back to work. Holidays were hard. It was hard. It was tough going.
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Have you had the bab?
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No, but I'm back in work now. I. I might. I might have bitten off more than I could chew today because I had hard breakfast. I was up at 5 into hard breakfast. Then I went off and I did a shoot. My mom for some. For something else. And then I spotted this in the diary. And I was like, oh, good God. I was ready for bed.
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Spotted this in the diary. Wow. I've been looking forward to this all day. Vogue.
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Really?
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That's why you got yourself home in your social calendar. Spotted this. And I.
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At least one of us spotted it, huh?
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And I got stuck in the traffic.
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Yeah, I forgot about the plan.
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Sorry, I don't have time for this. James Haskell is DJing at my pill. For free.
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Okay, He's. He's not doing that for free. He's not doing that for free.
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This was spotted in. This means a lot to me.
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Oh, God, her again. Hey, James.
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James.
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James.
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John McNally.
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James.
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James.
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Metric. Last to read, James.
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Oh, God.
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Do you know what I did earlier? So we were. I was down by the pool. Brandon was out hiking. We were like, let's go for lunch, Grant. We were like. We both run up, have a shower separately with separate rooms. And I ran into my room and housekeeper outside, so I didn't have to use my key. So I just went in, and I was like, grant. Oh, yeah, they clean the room. Hello? Hello? Because I didn't want to, you know, freak them out. No one replied. Grant hopped to the shower, having a wash, got out of the shower. Hello?
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Hello?
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Still no answering. Fine. And I was like, oh, they've moved my suitcases into the bedroom.
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No, please, no, no, Someone else's room. The fact that you gave such little shits. Hello? Hello? Oh, no, it's answering it. I'll have a shower, wash myself. Hello?
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No, it was because I didn't want to disturb them. I was like, they're cleaning up. Like, I don't need they. I was like, in my mind, I
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was like, they can stay.
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Like,
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what happened after them.
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I'm not going to ask them to leave. I'll just nip in. I'll just nip it. Take me clear.
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Oh, God. I just came out and saw all
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these kitten heels in the bedroom, and I was like, kitten heels? I don't wear kitten.
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Did you just scamper away or did you at least tell her?
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Scampers. Scampers.
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You nick the towels, and the girls with the kittenheads are going to be like, they're gonna ring down and say they didn't clean our room.
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Like, I had very little dignity left. I had to take the towel because there was no. There was no. I'd say they just move. I'd say they just settled in because there was no products in the bathroom, which I just assumed because they were cleaning the room, that they're taking all my products off the shelf to give it a real scrub down.
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The occupants were probably just on the balcony.
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I wouldn't mind. I was like, I'm gonna have an everything shower.
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Yeah.
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Use my razor. Don't buy that.
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Oh, God. Yeah.
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But no one saw, like, nothing was. Nothing came of it. Because by the time I got out of the shower and realized it wasn't my room, it was someone else's, and I was still. I was still saying hello. Hello. Like, I would have fessed up if. If someone had been in the.
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My God, that's.
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So Housekeeping had obviously been interrupted and they gone to something else. So I just. I just shuffled back to my own room and said the less that about that now, the better.
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Got a free tail out of it as well. Yeah.
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As I'm pulling the cameras off the walls, do you know what I mean? The security cameras?
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No.
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I actually can't imagine ever doing something like that. And particularly you like. Like your room is very identifiable, Juan. I've seen your room is. You know, it's your room.
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Yeah. But I think I was thrown because the housekeeping were in, and I thought they. I thought they were just doing a really, like, a really good job, you
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know, I didn't see her hanging anxious, preoccupied bags. Joanne went through her room the other day and how she cleaned it, and she had all her handbags hanging up with all of her clothes. She's like, I don't know what to do. Then they just have to stay in the suitcase. How about you put your clothes on the hangers and the anxious, preoccupied bags just in front of them?
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Well, so. So thank you. For asking V. Cuz you weren't alone in wanting to know that. Clothes. There's no point hanging clothes.
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Okay, I'm interested to hear why there's
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no point hanging them. Because there's an ironing board in the room. So if. If you hang them all, you have to put them back in. Whereas if you just shake out the little bit that you want to wear from the suitcase, then you iron it and then it's fine. The hanging of the bags was because I have promised Nikki that I will do content with all the bags. Just a flag. This is very much a work trip.
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Oh, a hundred percent. I forgot.
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This is very much a professional endeavor. Any. Any photos taken, you will notice there's a handbag in all the photos, including Brendan's photos of him in the pool. There is. You can see me trying to throw in a barrel. An anxious, preoccupied barrel in the background. Very much a professional project.
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She's feeling bad now because she's over holidaying. She's actually. She's coming from my crown. She's coming from Micron. Joanna, Sorry, I'm back in the uk. I'm working like a dog over here. I'm really busy. Okay.
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No idea why you would think this isn't a work trip that I'm on,
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so. Actually there's another thing.
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Because of the James Haskell thing, I'm not going out there. I'm in here photographing my handbags.
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I'm so glad, by the way, this morning they had set something so nice up for me on Hard Breakfast. They're like, oh, we've got a surprise for you. We've got a surprise. Your friend is calling in. And I was like, who's my friend? He's calling. And they're like, oh, your friend isn't answering. I was like, is my friend Joanne? I was like. I was like. She text me at half three this morning wishing me the best of luck. I was like. And that's half for her time because she was working really hard.
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Exactly. Exactly. Folk. And I don't know what monsters are running this show that you're on, but let me tell you, they are out of touch with reality.
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Jamie tried to ring again. I was like, jamie, this is futile. Let it go. It's.
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I'm stuck in traffic. Stuck in traffic. I'm always stuck in traffic.
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She is on set. It's half four in the morning. She's on set.
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And the new crowd. Cox. I might hear my iPad nano. It's blown up. That's why I'm so Worried about the Wi Fi being so sh. I'm like, hey, am I going to DJ out here if I can't get my Spotify list going? You know?
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When are you coming home?
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I'm on two bars. I'm not coming home. Vogue.
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I think you have another couple of weeks in you there that. She said that to me. She's like, I actually love being on holidays. I was like, thank you. Who doesn't love being on holidays?
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It's me. It's Dua Lipa. It's. And it's. It's. It's great to see you working for once. Vogue. I'll be honest, I was like, that lazy. She's finally taken the finger out and got herself a job
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that.
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Thank God.
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If you're not careful. I'm going to start taking family time. I'm gonna. I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say I'm taking time away with the family. Okay.
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This wife over in Battersea, I'm sick of her. By the way, for Wednesday. No, this is going out Wednesday. For Friday's episode, we need to do. We're doing a deep dive into the trad wives.
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I've been looking at that on the Caller Daddy podcast.
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Yes. Now let's get her name.
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Nara Smith was on Caller Daddy podcast.
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Yeah, we're going. We're doing deep dive in that. I'm about 20 minutes away from finishing yesteryear. I don't think it's a coincidence that Nara is now doing all this press. Let's get into it.
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But yesteryear is also based on another woman who was also. She's also a trad wife, but she works and she's got nine children or something. But she married the heir of some like, really. Oh, God, I need to get my. I'll get my facts right. I will. I will fact check all of this. But I do think it is an interesting watch because you remember the way
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we're like, oh, God, like they're cosplaying oppression.
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Yeah. They're not even. They don't even like their husbands.
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They're paying for their husbands. This is the point.
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Yeah.
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It's all bollocks anyway.
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At least I admit paying half. And I don't want to pay half. I don't want to. I don't want to pay even. I don't want to pay. No, I want to pay nothing. I saw Tommy Fury came out well and said, yes and no, I want to pay nothing. No, I want to pay.
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You say that. You say that, but I don't I
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feel like I've contributed.
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I do actually believe you there. Your eyes went really hard there.
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I do believe you contributed enough. Yeah. Tommy Fury said Molly May hasn't paid for a single meal since they've been together. And I applaud you, Molly May. I intend on doing the same.
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What about. Where's your power then?
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I don't. I don't care.
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You have no power.
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Ah, listen, I'll always have the power. Come on. I asked the kids. I'm like, who's in charge? They're like, mama. Yeah.
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Is that what you're saying? Yeah, but I think that also comes from your income.
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No, I don't think so. No, listen, I don't.
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I don't.
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I'm not paying. Okay?
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Yeah, fine. And I'm stuck in traffic. These are two things that will always be true.
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Why don't you ring your bank and say you're not paying for your mortgage anymore? What are they going to do? I'm not paying.
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Sadly, I don't have a Spencer Matthews.
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Spending is not paying for my own mortgage. Sorry. I pay. I. My house and how I try. I tried to bring myself down, as you know, Neil looks after my finances. And I was like, neil, is there any way now I know it's after the fact that we can cut spending. Are out of health. And he was like. I told Smy I was doing. I was like, spy. You don't even. You always go on about not wanting anything. He doesn't want it. So I said, I'm cutting you out. And I rang Neil, and Neil was like, f. You can't do that.
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I was like, you do that, you get your eggs in a row. You cut that prick. Your eggs in a row.
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Okay, we're sending an email here we're meant to be doing. If I don't do the email, you don't have to go see James. Is that what you call him now? Or do you call him Haskell?
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Jimmy Jam. Jimmy Jam Haskell. I'm doing the. I'm doing the foot pedals. He's doing the desks.
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Like you're on piano. Are you a penis?
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So if you see me under the desk of Jimmy Jam Haskell, trust me, it's very innocent. I'm doing the foot bits. I'm doing the gears down the bottom, the brakes, and the acceleration that he's doing the plates up the top.
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Okay, Hot guy. Terrible ride. Dear Joanne and Vogue. I'm currently seeing the hottest guy I've ever had the pleasure of laying eyes on. He's literally an Adonis. So far out of my league that it's not even on myself. Genuinely, he's out of this world. He's decent and converse. Sorry, Hang on. We don't have long left of this, listeners. I promise.
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What's the crack? Does the baby just punch up your throat every now and again?
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Yeah. I did a little wee on the floor today when I was getting. For the baby wants to do. He's decent in conversation as well. Funny and has a good job.
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You squatting down at the gym. Spencer's like, darling. You're like, listen, if the baby wants to take a on the floor, there's nothing I can do about it. There's nothing I can do about it. Sleep when the baby sleeps.
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Oh my God, that's so funny.
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Go on. Sorry. Go on.
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Okay, girls. He's a ride. Not average, not too quick. And it's not a case of learning what I like because I've had that conversation. It's literally like riding a fairground horse. There's an up and down motion, but it never changes. Rhythm.
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Yeah.
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Goes round and round. Oh. And eventually just sort of stops. And the silence. Good God, the science. Oh, come on.
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She's talking traffic.
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We were in bed on Saturday. And literally while he's inside me, I actually realized I was thinking about emails. I needed to send emails. Girls, I don't even like my job. Basically, I'm asking if you think it's possible to coach a man into being a better ride or. Or if they're all just born with whatever ability they're born with and there's no changing it. I'd love to think he could be better at it, but it's honestly so bad that it ruins everything else. Spencer was a terrible ride when I first. He's in the room.
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Okay.
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You're always lying on this show.
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Same.
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Yeah, yeah. As you know, this is.
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Maybe this is now the time to tell you. I've also had a gallon. Spencer and I agree it wasn't great.
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I know. I know. And we've taught him well together. Together we united. And he is now.
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Dude, Hope you're game.
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Do you know what I mean?
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I've been in this situation. I'm gonna say this now. She might be at home. Clone her ears out and be like, you're full of. They don't fancy each other. Like there's. I understand sex is very subjective. But when you desire each other, when lust just takes you both through, that's when sex is good. It's like you have to if you, if you can have good sex with so many down fancy, they're very, very good at sex. I just think he's down fancy usually.
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I don't know about that because I think that there is times where you like people like it different kinds of ways and everything like that. And like you have to like kind of explain to somebody the certain way that you like it. So maybe it's just about talking to him a little bit more. And if he's that good looking, I mean that's why he should surely he's had loads of rides. Why is he not?
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That's because he's never had to try. I've said this before and I'll say it again. The ugly ride the ugly ones. They are workhorses.
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We can't all be legends. You've, you've had enough practice. I'd be shocked if you weren't. Good. Yeah.
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You've run out of labia. There's no labia left.
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If he was serious problems so he
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could ride a Martian up there.
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I do, I think that this maybe, maybe he is too good looking. Maybe he's so good looking that he just couldn't be arsed.
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This is what I'll say of every lad I've been with, the more attractive he was. There is a direct pipeline from attractive guy to sex. Once I was like, I actually said to him after I said, you ride me like you wish I was dead. There's no desire here. There's nothing happening. We are just functionally, you might as well be taking the bins out. You rode me like you're cracking open a can of tuna. No interest.
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But I just, I, I just thought of something. I just thought of something. Right. So I'm not really a one night sandy person. It has happened.
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Well, I'd hope not. You're married. But there comes a time you just have to call it a day.
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It doesn't always, it's not always brilliant. Now I have to say it's always been with Spenny. But like it, it, but like it's not always brilliant and you do have to like have chats about certain parts of it. So why couldn't you have chats about the sex part like, you know, like foreplay. You're always chatting through things and like
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this guy sounds hopeless. I don't know why. I just get a really hopeless vibe off this email. I don't think this guy.
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I think if you got her on a better day, if you got her on a better day when she's not in a rush to see James Haskell. She might have a different opinion.
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Yeah, we've got to wrap this up. Okay.
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I wouldn't chalk him away. I wouldn't choke him in the bin if he's. I would. To ride. He's got great conversation. I would put in the effort. I. I would do the hard graft and I would. Maybe he watches too much porn. Maybe he watches too much porn. Maybe.
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Oh, yeah, actually, yeah, that's probably it.
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Yeah. Could be that. I mean, speaking of, I really have
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to wrap this up.
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She's a busy girl. She's got place to be. Everyone, thank you so much for listening. And also tomorrow night, because this goes out Wednesday. Tomorrow night, second episode, I will be Rescue is on in Universe.
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Oh, sorry, Is that.
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That's right. Yes. Yeah, you can see Joanne and Pasha. She's actually on at 2 o' clock in the afternoon when nobody is there.
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Yeah, the doors aren't even open. I'll be in the car park with my ipod Nano, if anyone's around.
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Thank you everyone. And please do tune into Renovation Rescue and your show on tlc.
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You don't even know the name of us, do you? That could be anything.
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I'm trying to sell your tour. I can't take. I can't take on your TV career and your tour and your bags. I can't take them all on.
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Well, the fact that you pushed my Pasha gig actually means a lot to me, so we'll leave it. That's the one that needs release. The bump at the moment because it's a pivot for me.
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Will we pop off and just leave her here or. Hold on.
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Yeah, we got a sound level. People love me over here. I'm telling you. Huge. It's not right, but it's okay.
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You didn't.
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RP says make it every. Is that what that is?
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Okay, now I have to eat.
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Yeah, I. I have to perform Vogue. Okay, I don't have time for this. They're about to open the car park. This has been a global production.
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Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Release Date: August 5, 2026
In this lively extra episode, Vogue and Joanne are back with their signature blend of brutally honest chat, irreverent humor, and (mostly unqualified) advice. They cover everything from awkward hotel mishaps, the trials of working mums, the peculiarities of the art world, and—true to the episode’s title—raw, relatable listener dilemmas about relationships and sex. Expect plenty of anecdotes, playful insults, and no topic off limits.
[00:02 - 04:00]
[02:32 - 04:00]
[03:59 - 06:11]
[06:36 - 10:06]
[10:13 - 11:32]
[14:00 - 15:31]
[15:06 - 16:51]
[17:31 - 23:30]
On Art & Self-Promotion:
“If I so much as drew a matchstick man and it was on display, I’d have Joanne McNally like a really tacky brand…”
— Joanne, [01:48]
On Awkward Shopping:
“I obviously kicked tires for a while and started asking the cost. My bad measurements and like, it was a good 40 minutes of talking.”
— Joanne, [03:18]
On Parenting and Work:
“I couldn’t wait to go back to work. Holidays were hard. It was hard. It was tough going.”
— Vogue, [05:18]
On Sex with Hot Men:
“You ride me like you wish I was dead. There’s no desire here. There’s nothing happening. We are just functionally—you might as well be taking the bins out. You rode me like you’re cracking open a can of tuna.”
— Joanne, [21:44]
On Relationship Balance:
“At least I admit paying half. And I don’t want to pay half. I don’t want to pay. No, I want to pay nothing.”
— Vogue, [15:06]
The episode is packed with rapid-fire, irreverent banter, affectionate ribbing, and taboo-busting honesty. Both Joanne and Vogue lean heavily into laugh-out-loud confessions and take a no-holds-barred approach to listener dilemmas, especially around sex, relationships, and working-mum guilt.
This “EXTRA” episode is classic MTGM: full of awkward stories, relatable listener problems, and snarky, warm-hearted advice. Highlights include Joanne’s accidental hotel bathroom break-in, a riotous debate about paying in relationships, and an extended riff on whether sexual skill can be taught. The hosts tease their upcoming deep dive into trad wife culture and leave listeners with plenty to laugh about—and think about—until next week.