Podcast Summary: My Therapist Ghosted Me

Episode: Pig Brain, Bob Dylan & Harry Redknapp's Boots
Date: December 5, 2025
Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally

Episode Overview

In this vibrant and hilarious episode, Vogue returns to the podcast fresh from her stint on the popular reality TV show set in the Australian jungle. Joanne and Vogue dive straight into a candid, unfiltered discussion about Vogue’s jungle experience—from cockroaches and pig brains to emotional meltdowns and post-show drama. The pair riff on celebrity gossip, myth-busting Bob Dylan's mortality, share Spotify Wrapped results, and brace for the festive season. The trademark blend of wit, shameless honesty, and heart is ever-present.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Vogue’s Jungle Experience: The Inside Scoop

Timestamps: 00:31 – 19:45

• Entry as a Latecomer:
  • Vogue details going into the jungle late, making her stay both more challenging and less time-consuming—a win for seeing her kids ([02:29]).
  • Notes on real-life jungle “guests”: rats, possums, snakes, and a meter-long iguana ([03:25]).
• The Real Hardships:
  • Shock at how tough it was mentally and physically, exacerbated by jet lag and lack of sleep ([04:11], [08:19]).
  • Eating beans and rice daily; missing salt and proper food ([06:52], [07:12]).
  • Strips away illusions about production:
    “If I see a bean or a bit of rice again, I’ll pass away and die.” – Vogue ([06:52])
• Rules & Surveillance:
  • After landing, intense isolation: phone confiscated, secretive transportation, strict confidentiality ([05:51], [07:54]).
  • “Reality TV going on like you’re going into witness protection is one of the weirdest things about the whole thing.” – Joanne ([06:17])
• Horrific Jungle Challenges:
  • Cockroach trial smells haunt her post-show ([09:02], [11:01]).
  • Gagging at pig’s brain, rotten fish juice, other revolting food trials.
    “Mine was fermented fish and f***...when I burped, it was just fish. I was like, oh my God.” – Vogue ([10:32])

2. Behind-the-Scenes Jungle Life

Timestamps: 12:32 – 19:48

• Camp Life Realities:
  • Clothes washed manually using a bike-powered bath, makeshift attempts at cleanliness ([12:37]).
  • Limited access to basic personal care: “Any chance I could get some leave-in conditioner?” – Vogue ([13:13])
  • On keeping spirits up: generally happy but susceptible to anxiety, especially after sleep deprivation ([13:57]).
• Mental Health Support:
  • Details her panic attack, the supportive response from production staff, and session with the camp psychologist, Sandra:
    “I don’t know what she did, but just the way she kind of talked me through loads of stuff.” – Vogue ([15:17])

3. Jungle Myths, Relationships, and Tabloid Drama

Timestamps: 11:53 – 19:06; 26:52 – 27:38

• Showmance Speculation:
  • The hosts address rumors about contestants H and Shona—Vogue says there was no romantic behavior, despite media spin ([11:53]–[12:21]).
• Camp Tensions:
  • Discussion of minor spats (e.g., camp chores), nothing major: “It was only like, little words that would seem like big words in there.” – Vogue ([19:08])
• Post-Jungle Press:
  • Vogue sets the record straight about headlines claiming she blamed her eviction on the inability of Irish viewers to vote—she didn’t say it! ([26:52]–[27:38])

4. Bob Dylan Isn’t Dead (and Other Musical Diversions)

Timestamps: 20:22 – 22:24; 29:13 – 32:28

• Joanne and Vogue hilariously debate whether Bob Dylan is alive; Vogue insists he’s been dead for years, only to be proven spectacularly wrong ([20:28]–[21:51]).
• Tangents on Spotify Wrapped:
  • Joanne’s “listening age” is 21; Vogue’s is 50, mostly thanks to music for the kids ([29:39]–[30:25]).
  • Jaw-dropping hours of music and white noise consumption—Vogue logs a whopping 174,292 mins ([32:09]).

5. Reality TV, Celebrity Antics, and Family Moments

Timestamps: 22:51 – 26:05; 28:23 – 29:09; 33:11 – 34:46

• Souvenirs:
  • Vogue brings three stars home for her kids, skips the notorious jungle boots (“They were like, embarrassingly large. I think they belonged to Harry [Redknapp].”) ([22:55], [23:17])
• Ruby Wax & Other Contestants:
  • Spoilers on jungle exits, with Vogue expressing admiration for Ruby Wax ([24:18]–[24:43]).
• Spencer’s Antarctic Feat:
  • Vogue’s husband Spencer completes seven triathlons on seven continents, possibly setting a world record ([24:48]–[25:09]).
• The Bridge Ritual:
  • Discussing difficulties and logistics of appearing on the “farewell bridge” for departing campmates ([25:19]–[26:45]).
• Letters From Home:
  • Emotional moments around receiving letters, Joanne’s tongue-in-cheek take on possibly penning one ([28:23]–[29:09]).

6. Life After the Jungle and Looking Forward

Timestamps: 33:11 – 36:59

• Returning to Reality:
  • Vogue revels in simple pleasures (“I feel like I’m in real life...The books.” – [33:27]), Christmas anticipation, and catching up with loved ones ([33:47]–[34:33]).
• Would She Do It Again?
  • “I’m glad I had the experience. I’d love to go back and do it again now...I wouldn’t want to not do it because it is such a great experience.” – Vogue ([35:40])
• Final Predictions:
  • Vogue tips H to win the show. Both shocked at unexpected eliminations ([36:22]–[36:34]).

Notable Quotes & Standout Moments

• “My abs were the main event.” – Joanne ([01:15])
• “Cockroaches...smells about. I cannot describe it now.” – Vogue ([09:02])
• “Reality TV going on like you’re going into witness protection is one of the weirdest things...” – Joanne ([06:17])
• “I had to leave a shop today ‘cause I went shopping. And I was like, I swear to God, I think I smell cockroaches. And I had to leave ‘cause it’s haunting me.” – Vogue ([11:01])
• “I just hope you get a chat show the size of Ricki Lake after this, because my God, you deserve it.” – Joanne ([11:30])
• On anxiety in the jungle: “I started, like, having a panic attack...But just the way [the psychologist] kind of talked me through loads of stuff...reset me.” – Vogue ([13:57]–[15:17])
• “Bob Dylan is dead, like ages ago. He died.” – Vogue ([20:36]), “We’re sorry to break the news to you folks, but Bob Dylan is alive.” – Joanne ([21:46])
• “Would you do it again? ...I would, yeah, I would.” – Vogue ([35:32])

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Entry, Challenges & Camp Life: 00:31–14:00
• Mental Health and Panic Attack: 13:57–16:00
• Jungle Relationships & Rumors: 11:53–12:21
• Saying Goodbye & Press Drama: 26:52–27:38
• Bob Dylan Debate: 20:28–21:51
• Jungle Souvenirs & Family Letters: 22:51–29:09
• Post-Jungle Reflections & Christmas: 33:11–34:46
• Would She Do It Again? 35:32–35:59

Overall Impression

Overflowing with warmth, irreverence, and blistering honesty, this episode is a whirlwind through jungle grime, friendship, the bizarre world of celebrity reality TV, and everyday life. The hosts’ chemistry is unbeatable, delivering both laugh-out-loud moments and authentic vulnerability about fame, anxiety, and resilience. The conversational style, peppered with running gags and cheerful jabs, makes for a hugely entertaining listen.

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