SHE'S IN THE JUNGLE!

Summary

My Therapist Ghosted Me — SHE'S IN THE JUNGLE!

Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Release Date: November 21, 2025
Podcast Theme: Unvarnished, comic conversations between two close friends—one now heading into the jungle for I'm a Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here!—serving advice, sharing mishaps, and trading hilarious insights about daily life.

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Overview

In this vibrant, laughter-filled episode, Joanne McNally and Vogue Williams discuss Vogue's imminent departure for the I’m a Celebrity jungle. They swap secrets about keeping her participation under wraps, dive into anxieties about reality TV, explore pop culture dramas, and, as usual, veer into the deeply personal and absurd. The episode is packed with their signature honest, self-deprecating humour and plenty of digressions about Zoom mishaps, family dynamics, and pop culture scandal.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Vogue’s Jungle News: Secrecy, Packing, and Nerves

• Revealing the Secret (01:33–03:40):

  • Vogue confirms she's entering I'm a Celebrity..., after months of dodging rumors:

    "I am gonna be in the jungle on I'm a celebrity. Get me out of here. I'm a late goer. The rumors are true." (01:45, Vogue)

  • Both discuss how hard it’s been to keep the secret, with Joanne admitting she may have told "15 to 20 people" (later denying this):

    "I didn't tell 15 to 20 people. I really, really didn't." (03:40, Joanne)

• Packing Chaos and Travel Fibs (05:37–06:22):

  • Vogue shares that all jungle arrivals are papped at airports, so she must claim she’s off to Dublin; in Australia, she's telling immigration she's filming for Home and Away.

    "So tomorrow when I go to Heathrow, if they ask me if they're like, where are you off to? I have to say Dublin. And then when I land in Australia... I'm gonna say I've got a part on Home and Away." (05:37, Vogue)

• Family Logistics & Emotional Impact (07:22–08:49):

  • Vogue addresses rumors about her kids visiting, explaining they’re too young to make the trip.

    "Yes, I will not. My kids won't come out to greet me in. In the jungle... they're in school and I will have to deal with the fallout." (07:22, Vogue)

  • Both marvel at Vogue and her husband Spencer’s relentless ambition:

    "Your combined level of professional ambition has me wanting to take a nap." (08:32, Joanne)

2. Jungle Fears, Strategies, and Personal Discomforts

• Facing the Challenge Head-on (10:40–11:56):

  • Despite fears of insects and embarrassment, Vogue is determined to attempt every task:

    "My shame of not bringing back any stars...would be too high. That I wouldn't be able to forgive myself. So I think I'm just going to try absolutely everything." (10:51, Vogue)

  • Discuss personal vanity in jungle showers and the challenges of going without their usual comfort items.

    "I'm not going to win. I'm going to try my best not to be a whinger." (10:51, Vogue)

• Wild Dream Sequences (12:31–14:51):

  • Both share bizarre dreams linked to reality TV anxieties—Vogue dreams Jack Osbourne withholds fruit from her; Joanne dreams of blue eggs and topless Millie Bobby Brown.

    "I had a dream... I won loads of fruit... and then Jack Osborne took it away from me and said... Don't give her any fruit." (12:33, Vogue) "I was being watched by Furbies..." (13:29, Joanne)

3. Life Mishaps & PR Disasters

• Winter Wonderland Accident (15:06–16:48):

  • Vogue recounts accidentally appearing as if she wet herself at a press night, and frantically trying to prevent embarrassing photos leaking.

    "I was like, it looks like I've pissed my pants. And I had to ring Louisa...please don't put those pictures out." (16:23, Vogue)

  • Joanne jokes about using disasters for publicity:

    "Again, Vogue, this is a great bit of pure. If I ever get invited to Winter Wonderland, I'll fake...it's a great way to guarantee coverage." (16:36, Joanne)

• Tech Fumbles (16:53–18:23):

  • Classic Zoom homeowner confusion: Vogue’s display name is “Knob Bag”. They reminisce about viral Zoom fails during lockdown.

    "Are you aware that your. Your. Your Zoom name is now Knob Bag?" (16:53, Joanne)

4. Family, Grief, and Deflecting Blame

• Parental Blame and Grief-Driven Decisions (18:23–20:05):
  • Light-hearted, bittersweet stories about funerals, singing, and how grief influences choices.

    "I'm convinced. I got married the first time because of the grief. I'm sure that's...that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it." (19:45, Vogue)

  • Both agree mothers are often blamed for everything.

    "My mom's wrong with me." (20:03, Joanne)

5. Would Joanne Ever Do the Jungle? (21:10–22:09)

• Both consider whether they'd do reality TV, referencing their own limits:

  "If I was gonna do any...reality TV...it would be jungle...I'd happily chew on a kangaroo ball..." (21:14, Joanne) "Yeah, I have a bad gag reflex, though...if I don't like something, it could come back up." (21:34, Vogue)

6. Podcast Plans While Vogue Is Away

• Guest Hosts Incoming (22:09–22:50):
  • Joanne jokes about being left to podcast solo. Vogue assures there will be guest comedians stepping in.

7. Shameless Self-Promotion and Reality TV Fame

• Both encourage listeners to vote for Vogue, not-so-subtly, and riff on sleezy PR tactics.

  "I want you and the girls to ask people to vote for me. Like, shameless. Shamelessly plug me." (22:53, Vogue)

• Awkward Press Questions (23:27–23:51):

  • Vogue refuses to answer when reporters ask “When did you realize you were famous?”:

    "I can't answer that question. I'm Irish and I'll actually be barred from the country if I know about myself like that." (23:37, Vogue)

8. Pop Culture Roundup: Sydney Sweeney Drama & Euphoria Rumours

• Sydney Sweeney’s PR Nightmare (24:52–27:57):

  • They discuss the backlash against Sydney Sweeney over a controversial ad and her private life:

    "People thought it was kind of tone deaf and a little like white supremacist vibes..." (25:10, Joanne)

    • Debate whether Sweeney’s response was “smug,” and if she’s mishandled her press.
  • Mention of a rumored rift between Sweeney and Zendaya on Euphoria.

• Box Office Flops and Blame Games (28:13–31:16):

  • Ruby Rose slams Sweeney for not connecting with her role, calling her a “cretin.”

    "Ruby Rose...accused Sweeney of not being connected to this aspect of the character and called her a cretin." (31:15, Joanne)

9. Obscure Tangents: Acting Ambitions, The Seasons, and Space

• Acting Aspirations:

  • Joanne brags about her acting potential if Sweeney is out of work.

    "I'm happy to slip in, take any roles. I'm doing an improv course." (31:25, Joanne)

• Celtic vs. Solar Calendars:

  • Vogue and Joanne go to war over when winter starts—Celtic or modern calendar? (34:47–37:22)

    "Basically Vogue has taken the soup which is a term that Irish people use for when an Irish person loses their sell in the UK." (36:04, Joanne)

    • Ends with classic, stubborn non-resolution.

• Space and Conspiracy Theories:

  • Quick musings on space, dead stars, and conspiracy theory friends—including Moon landing denial:

    "All the stars that you're looking at are suns and they all have their own solar..." (38:07, Vogue) "Ellen DeGeneres is a lizard, that, you know, that's it." (39:01, Joanne)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Vogue on keeping secrets:

  "I just would rather pretend you didn't ask me the question so I don't have to answer." (01:45, Vogue)

• Joanne on PR skills:

  "As an ex public marketeer, how I started most of my sentences...I will most certainly be throwing my name in the mix next year." (04:40, Joanne)

• Vogue on jungle priorities:

  "How am I going to know if I've slept well? How would I know I have any of my devices, I have nothing. I can't even bring fan in. Nothing." (11:18, Vogue)

• Joanne on tactical embarrassment:

  "If I ever get invited to Winter Wonderland, I'll fake...it's a great way to guarantee coverage." (16:36, Joanne)

• Joanne on mothers getting blamed:

  "We tend to blame them for most things, really. Or like, they, they have such a huge impact on us and our growth and our development and stuff." (20:15, Joanne)

• Vogue sticking to her guns:

  “You can get stuffed. August is definitely in summer. August is in summer. I’m not having it.” (40:21, Vogue)

• Joanne’s closing threat:

  "If you don't win, you're not coming back in the podcast. I'm not gonna have a loser on this thing." (42:14, Joanne)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:33–03:40 — Vogue's I'm a Celebrity announcement & secret keeping
• 05:37–06:22 — Airport paparazzi and travel deception
• 07:22–08:49 — Family arrangements & emotional toll
• 10:40–11:56 — Fears about the jungle and handling personal discomfort
• 12:31–14:51 — Exchange of weird anxiety dreams
• 15:06–16:48 — PR disaster: Vogue's “pissy pants” moment
• 16:53–18:23 — Tech blunders and viral Zoom moments
• 18:23–20:05 — Tangents on grief and blaming parents
• 21:10–22:09 — Would Joanne do jungle reality TV?
• 22:09–22:50 — Guest hosts for the podcast during Vogue's absence
• 24:52–27:57 — Sydney Sweeney advertising and reputation scandal
• 34:47–37:22 — The Celtic calendar and seasonal bickering
• 38:07–40:26 — Fun ponderings on space and conspiracy people
• 41:10–43:16 — Vicious plugging for votes and shameless podcast promos

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Final Thoughts

This episode is classic My Therapist Ghosted Me: full of irreverent confessions, heartfelt advice, pop culture shade, and playful bitching. It’s less about structured therapy and more about making each other—and the listeners—laugh through chaos. The rapport between Vogue and Joanne shines, especially as they send Vogue off into the unknown, armed with padded bras, stubborn humour, and a plea for votes.

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Transcript

[A]

This is a Global Player original podcast.

[B]

Welcome to. My therapist ghosted me with the usual people. Joanne McNally and Vogue Williams, Joe Adewells away, we have Emma. Just to set the scene for our listeners. I am in Killarney. Vogue is in London. I'm running a little low on pot equipment as I like to sprinkle things behind me in hotels and leave them there to start a new life with somebody else. So that means I'm with. I'm. No, I have no mic or camera, but that's okay.

[A]

Yeah, very organized girl. She'd no headphones. Last week we found the headphones so we're happy with that.

[B]

Remote podding isn't. It's. It's. It's not easy. She says, zooming in from her bed. It's not easy. You know.

[A]

I couldn't agree more as I sit here with my mic and my camera and my proper headphones. Couldn't agree more from the comfort of your own home.

[B]

It's the packing for me is the real issue.

[A]

Ask me what's in my case for Australia.

[B]

Sorry, should we explain before Again, a little bit of context would go. Would do. Would go far in this situation. I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna do a fake claxon sound for your announcement.

[A]

Okay, go.

[B]

Or drum roll maybe. What's that? What's that say? Like phone ringing. Vogue, what is your news please for our listeners?

[A]

Finally, when you are listening to this, I am gonna be in the jungle on I'm a celebrity. Get me out of here. I'm a late goer. The rumors are true. I'm not a liar. Haven't been ignoring anyone. I just would rather pretend you didn't ask me the question so I don't have to answer. I leave tomorrow.

[B]

It's top secret information. It's where she was going into the White House. I mean, we've all turned NDAs. I can't even look my mother in the eye cuz she's like, is she going in? I'm like, I. I cannot confirm or deny.

[A]

I mean, I trust Patch. He probably could have told Pat to be fair.

[B]

Good, because I tell Posh yet.

[A]

Okay, Joanne, I honestly, I know that you'll have told loads of people. Like with span.

[B]

Come on, 15 to 20 people talk Vogue. I would say some of them. I don't even know their names, but whatever. Look, the point is, the story never got out. I can't be held responsible.

[A]

The story never got out. It couldn't be more out. I've had People stop me on the street and I'm like, you should be in Australia. I'm like, should I watch? Why, what's. What's happening there?

[B]

Oh, I've been everyone, I've been. I've been looking up girls I went to school with, haven't seen in 20.

[A]

Years how I am. There's nothing better when you have a bit of g. I. There was a guy that we work with, me and Spen. And, and he kept asking, he kept asking, are you gone? And I was like, listen, I'm not like, stop asking me, I don't want to talk about it, blah, blah. And he was like, well, I'm gone out for dinner with Span tonight. But he probs on tell me. I was like, spany will tell you within three and a half seconds. He couldn't give a shite.

[B]

Me and Spencer kept ringing each other, taking turns to tide each other over and over again.

[A]

I tell you what, it's really hard for me especially to like to keep a secret. But now I leave tomorrow, the bags are packed. I think I have everything.

[B]

I. For some reason I thought you were about to say the bags out of the cat and I was about to laugh outrageously. The cat's out of the bag. You feel. But no, you were, you were correct in what you're about to say. The bags are out of the ca. She is going to the jungle and I'm actually only taking the piss. I didn't tell 15 to 20 people. I really, really didn't.

[A]

You've told more than 10. I don't lie. I know you told more than 10v.

[B]

You forget I'm a hermit. I don't. I haven't spoken to 10 people in a month.

[A]

Okay. You had two shows in Dublin, right?

[B]

Oh, well, I announced it on stage in the Olympia. That might have been where you got the traffic.

[A]

That's. Yeah, that's where all the messages were coming from. Great. It was the worst kept secret. But I don't. Everyone's name seems to come out. Like when you see everyone who was. Who was announced for it, like they. Who wasn't announced for it then they were. So I don't know where that comes from because everyone got rotted out, I suppose. No one can hold their own water. No one can hold water.

[B]

Well, I. I think it's actually a really good way of getting a bit of PR for yourself. As an ex public marketeer, how I started most of my sentences on a daily basis, I wouldn't mind throwing.

[A]

Did you used to work in A hotel.

[B]

Well, folk, I'm thrilled you asked when I was, obviously when I was checking into the hotel. I mean, last night I was giving them the whole spiel about my hotel experience.

[A]

I used to tell you I used.

[B]

To do this, popping my head into the housekeeping. Hey, you girls. I'm one of you, you know. But it's a great way of getting yourself a bit of pure. Like. I will most certainly be throwing my name in the mix next year, I can assure you.

[A]

Yeah, I might chuck my back in again. Yeah, she's going back.

[B]

Or maybe you're gonna host us. Like, I swear to God, because I. I was sending you names that I was saying, oh, look, you're gonna be in with such and such, and you're like, I don't think they're going in. I. I haven't heard that. So, yeah, it's a great way to just fire your name in.

[A]

I'm going in with Tom Reed Wilson, who's gas. And I've cycled by him a couple of times and I'm like, might see a Sunday Tom. And we're both just laughing at each other. So neither of us have confirmed it, but I'm assuming it's gonna. I hope it's him. The worst part is, right, so everyone ends up getting papped in the airport. So tomorrow when I go to Heathrow, if they ask me if they're like, where are you off to? I have to say Dublin. And then when I land in Australia. What are you doing in Australia? I'm gonna say I've got a part on Home and Away.

[B]

Are you serious?

[A]

Yeah. Can't confer. Confirm until like. So I. So you'll watch this? I'll already be in. So I. I get trailed on Wednesday. So I go into the jungle on Wednesday and then Thursday I'm on air.

[B]

It's like you're going to speak at a tribunal.

[A]

I had a.

[B]

This is very much. The money was only resting in my account. It's got serious Father Ted vibes. Do you remember that episode im. Did you ever watch Father Ted? The money was only resting.

[A]

Fair, that's a good excuse, resting for a while now.

[B]

But it was, it was merely resting. Napping.

[A]

I had. I had a weird dream on its.

[B]

Way to the revenue. It was simply napping. It's just taking a little break for itself.

[A]

I had a weird dream the other night about the jungle. Cuz like tonight I'm worried, I want sleep, but I don't really care because I'll be on a plane for so long I can sleep then because I'm. I'm getting quite nervous now about leaving the kids. Also, I'm going to put this here because it will stop any rumors or, like, family feuds or anything. I had a job that will be evident on the jungle. I'm trying to find bras with a bit of padding. I'm like, I'm not standing beside her or her in the shower. I look like I've gone inwards.

[B]

I would die laughing it. We just arrived into Australia with a huge prayer tits, like, shoot two sightsee double Ds with the stitches still in them. And you're like, what?

[A]

I'm still watching. I'm still choosing bikinis because one of them is not padded. And I'm like, if I turn to the side, I look like a ironing board. But anyway, no. So I would like to say here, yes, I will not. My kids won't come out to greet me in. In the jungle. So if you get quite far, which I might. I might get kicked out first. But if you get quite far, sometimes they'll, like, fly your family out. But my kids are very young and they're in school and I will have to deal with the fallout of very little children flying for that long for two days. So I've asked for Span not to bring them out. Whether he changed his mind, I don't know. And also, Spen might not be there because he's doing his Project seven and Seven. So he finishes on the seventh in Antarctica. I finish on the eighth. So trying to get from Antarctica to Australia. That is why there is no Family Feud. I'm just putting it out there now because I was like, I need to make sure that people know that. But. But I was thinking of Gina. Gina, Be great.

[B]

Crack. Firstly, can I just say, your combined level of professional ambition has me wanting to take a nap. I'm tired even just listening to you. He's in the Antarctica. You're in the jungle. Where are you, Emil? I'm in bed and will be watching.

[A]

Oh, my God. Do you have a. Do you have a Show on the 8th? You could fly out and meet me. They'll pay for you.

[B]

I love a business flight. And I've just announced my Australian dates. I could do with the bit of Aussie. I could do with a bit of bridge time now. I'm not. I'm not willing to share it with you, though. I'd like just to be on the bridge by myself.

[A]

Push. Push me off the bridge. I'll be weak.

[B]

Yeah. You'll be weak.

[A]

Come and take the celebratory champagne. I'll be like her. I'm on tour. I'm a tour.

[B]

I'm on tour, guys. Brisbane, per Sydney.

[A]

You're flying to Brisbane?

[B]

Oh my God. Is, Are you go. Are you gonna be in Brisbane?

[A]

Yeah. So I fly to Dubai, two hours stop over, then to Brisbane.

[B]

Hang a couple of posters for me, will you?

[A]

So I'll do some flyering. I've got a couple of down days.

[B]

I wouldn't vogue. I didn't want to ask you, but now that you've offered this to me, put me on FaceTime and just walk me around town and I just, Just do. Hear ye, hear ye. How about that?

[A]

I have a great idea. Why don't I get pedophile tattooed to my forehead?

[B]

Ah, I was, I. I didn't want to say, but I was hoping you get anxious. Preoccupied as a tramp stamp. So it could be the bad business.

[A]

Supposedly the plane trip home is wild as well. Everyone's just delighted. And they're all getting locked on the plane cuz we all fly back together.

[B]

Stop. Oh, I would. When I said, do you know how more.

[A]

Check your days, check your date. You'd fly on the seventh.

[B]

You know, you know, it's almost me.

[A]

Well, what am I talking about? I could get, I could get kicked out in the first week. So don't do that. Actually, that will jinx me. Don't do it.

[B]

Okay, fine. I'm from on the road. So what. What are, what are we looking at here? What's going on?

[A]

What.

[B]

Have you got any like, things you're definitely not gonna do because people see people? This is. I'm so buzzing for you to go into this because people don't necessarily know how hardcore you are.

[A]

You see, I, I. Even though I'm terrified of most things, like who wants to hang around with insects? Nobody does. But my shame of not bringing back any stars or saying that I'm not doing it would be too high. That I wouldn't be able to forgive myself. So I think I'm just going to try absolutely everything. I'm not going to win. I'm going to try my best not to be a whinger. Like it's going to be. I'll miss, I'll miss knowing, like, what am I going to do in the morning when I wake up? How am I going to know if I'm. If I'm tired or not? If I've slept well? How would I know I have any of my devices I have nothing. I can't even bring fan in. Nothing.

[B]

This is barbaric. You. So I know.

[A]

Not a.

[B]

You're going to war. You're going to war.

[A]

You're going to wash my knickers in a lake.

[B]

This is very Tim Vibes, isn't it?

[A]

I'll tell you what, I won't be. Everyone's like, well, you look sexy in the jungle shower. I'm like, no, like, have you met me? Like, certainly not. When I'm sharing. I get shampoo in my eyes and stuff.

[B]

Well, folk, just, please, just remember you are. Sex does sell. And as an ex public sister marketeer, I would be. I would be hoping that there is.

[A]

Some attempt to be a degree in marketing.

[B]

I have a. I have a master's in public relations, baby.

[A]

Do you? I fucking know you do.

[B]

Oh. Oh, here's the photo.

[A]

What has she ordered?

[B]

No, I rang down to tell him you're getting out of the jungles. They ride me back. Hello.

[A]

Do you want another weird dream I had?

[B]

Oh, please, because then I'm going to tell you about mine because it's mash.

[A]

So I was thinking, right, I was obviously thinking about, like, going in late and everyone's like, oh, God, you guys were in like four days later than us. You don't even have it, like. And not being accepted by the group and being worried that they wouldn't accept us. And then I had a dream that, like, I won loads of fruit or something in a challenge and no one's had any fruit, they've only had rice and beans and that I brought it back to the group and then Jack Osborne took it away from me and said, you can't have any because you've only just got in. Don't give her any fruit. And I was just left in the corner with my rice and beans and he wouldn't give me any strawberries.

[B]

Sometimes. Sometimes dreams are so abstract and sometimes they're very much what you see on the tin, aren't they? Like, that's just. That is just very like to kind of. What would you say? There's nothing to decode there.

[A]

I'd never thought I'd dream about Jack Oswald not giving me a strawberry. Just didn't see that in my. In my. In my dream life ever.

[B]

So last night. So I. I didn't sleep very well the night before, so that. So woke up this morning, went straight back to sleep, but put on a little documentary thing, which I think is why I lose a dream a lot because it kind of keeps you slightly in your orem mode? I think more so. And then. So I had the dream and it was. The dream was insane. I was being watched by Furbies. Firstly, I realized in the dream I. I thought I'd slept through the show. And I asked Garou to slap me in the face really hard and he did. And then I realized it was a dream, but then it went into like mad shit where I was eating all blue eggs. Like all the. I was cracking eggs and the yolk was blue. And then you're one from straight. Your one from Stranger Things is there. But she was topless. What's her name?

[A]

Millie Bobby Brown.

[B]

Millie Bobby Brown. Great rock.

[A]

Do you know she had a dream about going down on Gemma Collins?

[B]

I did.

[A]

Emma. Yeah.

[B]

There's. I think there's a tiny lesbian trying to push herself out in my subconscious.

[A]

I think so.

[B]

But. But it was. It was just one of these dreams, but I knew it was. I knew it was a dream. And then there was a girl and she was like, if it's a dream, you can kill me if you want because it's not going to be real. And I was like, I don't think I want to ever experience that. Anyway, it was mental. Mental. And I'm just so. So I'm glad I swee. The blue egg thing, I was like, this is Alice in Wonderland. This is bizarre. But, yeah, Millie Bobby Brown was there topless. I'm sorry, Millie Bobby Brown. You didn't consent to that?

[A]

Oh, my God. Very rude. I think we're gonna. There's gonna be some questions asked. Maybe you shouldn't watch me in the jungle shower. You might get turned on. You never know.

[B]

It's like Vogue. It's not great.

[A]

What didn't tell you what happened to me the other day. So I went to Winter Wonderland to the press night. So you get invited to the press night. I'm very lucky to get invited by global.

[B]

Winter Wonderland is the new purple dragon. I. There's so much talk about it out of you lately.

[A]

Yeah, because it's November. That's all I'm gonna talk about. Like, I'm. I'm. I'm probably. This is my only time to go because I'm away now for three weeks. I usually go two or three times. So anyway, I went to press night with the kids and. And I had spilt. So we're in the. We're in the taxi. They're obviously being really full on. We'd gone see Span on his run and then they spilled me. But I just put My jacket on. And because it's a press night, there's a lot of photographers there, so you have to go do a press wall kind of thing. I mean, I was wearing. Because I'd run with Spenny as well. I was literally wearing running gear and this black jacket. I looked desperate. Everyone else looked amazing. And then I was like, God, my trousers actually feel soaking. So anyway, after all the pictures were taking, I went and sat in, like, the bauble ride with Otto. And I was looking down, I was like. I was like, it looks like I've pissed my pants. And I had to ring Louisa because my manager, I was like, oh, my God, Louisa, it looks like I pissed my pants. They've just taken load pictures of me. She's like, it can't be that bad. I took a picture of it and it was worse. It was a full wet patch. I had to run back and be like to the photographers, please, please don't put those pictures out. I was like, it looks like I've pissed myself. And they're like, it doesn't. Look at the pictures. So I'm talking to like six different photographers being like, don't put them out if it looks like I've pissed my pants, please. My kids spilled something on me.

[B]

But again, Vogue, this is a great bit of pure. If I ever get invited to Winter Wonderland, I'll fake. I. I would that, like, it's a. It's a great way to guarantee coverage. You're not thinking this through at all.

[A]

I don't want to be known as Pissy Pants. I don't want to be known as Pissy Pants.

[B]

Well, are you aware that your. Your. Your Zoom name is now Knob Bag? I'm looking at. Yeah, everyone, mine, Joanne, Imogen is down below and you're a knob bag.

[A]

Well, if the shoe fits.

[B]

I think so. I think you've got bigger problems in your home.

[A]

Joanne. Do you think I know how to change the name on that? Are you mad? I'm not Bag for life now. I can't change that.

[B]

That is so funny. It's like. It reminds me of one of the. One of my funniest moments during lockdown. Do you remember when the guy put the cat filter on himself and he. He was in that very serious corporate zoom meeting and they were like, max, we just need to let you know you are presenting as a cat. And he was like, well, I don't know how to change it. Have to just continue. He was like, reading out like an. An Excel doc with like this huge cat. Head on it. It was very funny.

[A]

The greatest Zoom that happened in lockdown. And I go and watch it sometimes because it's so brilliant, is Ming, the Irish politician who was sitting in his knickers on his bed scratching his arse. And it was in the European Commission. Do you not remember that? And his wife was in the background. It's a sleep in the bed. And he's just like. And it comes. And then when it zooms out of him back to the European Commission or whatever it was, they're all just trying to hold in this laugh. He was in his knickers. He had, like, a shirt on. So he was kind of like, nice from the top up. And he scratched his Aris and everything in it. And I don't think that's a fair time.

[B]

Oh, no. Zoom has a lot to answer for. A friend of mine, we were laughing yesterday. I don't know how it came up, but her mother died years ago. Like, it could be kind of 15 years ago, and. Which actually isn't that long. But anyway, she said my dad was.

[A]

Dead 15 years on Wednesday.

[B]

That is why. Congratulations.

[A]

Thanks a million. Congrats, Fred. Freddie.

[B]

Congratulations, Fred. He's still dead. Is he still dead?

[A]

Yeah, still dead.

[B]

So. But she was saying, I think we're talking about singing. And she's like, I used to think I had a really good voice, which said. But I was completely deluded. And she said, at my mother' funeral, I sang Somewhere over the Rainbow. She said, I don't know what I was thinking. It was the grief. Like, I'm not. Like, I'd never sang publicly before. And got up and I said, with the mic and all on the altar, she goes, yeah. Got up, yeah. And sang Somewhere over the Rainbow at my mother's funeral.

[A]

And she said, what a hard song.

[B]

I know. And she's not that type of person at all. It's very out of character. And she said, I have to. No one said it was good. They all just said she was really brave. They're all like, that was brave. Fair play. She's like, okay, thanks.

[A]

You've got to be careful of the grief. Because I'm convinced. I got married the first time because of the grief. I'm sure that's. That's.

[B]

That's.

[A]

That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it. That's happened.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

100. I was like, just. You're kind of like you're. You're a different person to what you usually are.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Listen, if there's anywhere, if there's Any way to blame something else. You'll always blame. Yeah, my mom.

[B]

My mom's wrong with me.

[A]

Yeah, well, I know. I always think you should blame someone. I said to my mom once, I was like, that was your fault. Now. I was very upset. You let me go to Australia. And she was like, how dare. I was like, it was your fault. And that's what I'm sticking to.

[B]

Mothers are gas, though. And I, I. You kind of have to leave them off sometimes because I think they're all. I, we, we tend to blame them for most things, really. Or like, they, they have such a huge impact on us and our growth and our development and stuff. But, like, they make massive themselves, you know, and they're also a product of whatever weird way they were raised and all that. But, but, yeah, but sometimes, like, I thought stuff up with my mom and she's like, did I do that? I did not. I'm like, yeah, you did. You did. You did that. God, I'd forget my head. No memory of locking you into your room in a cage. No, obviously not that. But you know what I mean?

[A]

Like, my mom would actually be like. And so you probably deserved it.

[B]

Yeah, you probably deserved it. Yeah. I think our mothers were. They're more like the defensive kind, perhaps. I can neither confirm nor deny.

[A]

Would you ever do it? Would you ever do it?

[B]

Would I do it? Yes. If, If I felt the time was right. If I was gonna do any. If I was gonna do any of the reality TV shows, though, I would. It would be jungle. I would be. Because, like you, I'm not precious about stuff. And I'd happily chew on a kangaroo ball or whatever it is that they need. And I think I'd be quite.

[A]

Yeah, I have a bad gag reflex, though, I have to say, if I have to, like, yeah, I will eat the stuff, but, like, I, like, if I don't like something, it could come back up.

[B]

That's where I did recommend getting into the B before you went. So I would really minimize the bag reflex. But you didn't listen to me, did you?

[A]

I tried. Well, there was, There was a lot of things I was going to try and do. I was going to try and not eat chocolate for a while. I was going to try and cut my coffee down to one. I was going to try and stop the fizzy drinks. Did I do any of that? No, I didn't. I've just been so kind to myself because I thought about you and I said, what would you want to do? She wouldn't give A shite about her future self. So I've decided Vogue in the jungle.

[B]

Yeah, jungle folk. Treat yourself all day, every day. But it does leave me with a conundrum, because Vogue, I can't do this podcast on my own. And you're not going to be able to do it from the jungle.

[A]

And I would like you.

[B]

I thought I was going on my holidays because Vogue was like, I'm going to jungle, so I won't be here for three weeks.

[A]

Ah, no, no.

[B]

Go to my holidays. But of course, my micromanager extraordinaire, like, you're not going anywhere. We're gonna. We're gonna get people to come on in my place.

[A]

They're good people. They're good comedians. We're excited. It's gonna be good.

[B]

After Steps, do we. Can we say who we're having or not?

[A]

Yeah, I think we can. And also, I want you and the girls to ask people to vote for me. Like, shameless. Shamelessly plug me. Imagine you started bitching about me if I was really annoying on it. And you were like, God, that Vogue ones.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Nightmare.

[B]

I was like, ring 101 for Jack Osborne, guys. Ruby Wax is flying it in there, girls. That's who gets my boat. What happens when you come out? Are you going to be like, how famous? Famous? Are you going to be like, I feel like.

[A]

You cannot say the word famous. Do you know what they asked in one of the. In one of the interviews that they. So. So when did you realize. Because it's called I'm a snip. When did you realize that you were famous?

[B]

And I was like, that's a terrible question.

[A]

I was like, I can't answer that question. They were like, what you mean? I was like, no one answered that question. I was like, did anyone answer that? And they were like, no. Everyone answered. I was like, I'm not answering that. I'm Irish and I'll actually be barred from the country if I know about myself like that. No way.

[B]

I get asked that sometimes. And why do you think you're so successful? And I'm like, no. Joanne McNally claims to be a massive success. Like, that's what the cat. You know, they're awful questions. They're awful. Or my. The one I get is, what's it like to be a woman in comedy? I remember someone saying to you before, I'm pretty sure I've heard of female comics walking out of when they say, can they have that? Yeah, well, Eleanor Tiernan, who is a female comic, I think actually now I don't mind it as much but at the start I was probably a bit more sensitive about it. She was saying that's like, she's like, I don't know because I've only ever known. I've only ever been a female. So I don't know. You know like it's like I'm in the petri dish. It's happening, it's rolling. I can't answer that question. You know, the kids aren't going on him. Spencer's not going either. But she wants you to know there's no fuse.

[A]

We can hear the hang off.

[B]

Did you see the Sydney Sweeney drama?

[A]

Well, there's a few things that she's done. So she did an ad with. Was it American Eagle?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it was like jeans for I, I've. I've got good jeans or something like that. It was a play on that. It was a gene company, a gene campaign. But it was G E N E and people were just like, they thought.

[B]

They felt it was kind of tone deaf and a little like kind of white supremacist vibes was the, was the what people. Some people took it as.

[A]

I didn't blonde, blue eyed, anything.

[B]

Yeah. But then I am a white woman with blue eyes. So that's probably why I didn't give it that much thought. But it didn't read to me like it was a play on white supremacy. But I think that would be a very. As an ex public assistant marketing professional it would be a very ill advised route to go down to something like that. But she also has. There's a bang of MAGA offer apparently there's a bang of they think that there's. And of course she's, you know that's online. It doesn't go down well if there's anything possibly. But anyway. She was interviewed by a liberal recently who asked her had she any comment on the drama around her being a white supremacist on a gnot. And she said I feel like if I have anything to say about anything people will hear about us I E off. And of course the Internet exploded. Half some people were like fair play to her. Who cares? Like she doesn't, you know, she's decided not to speak about it and she shouldn't have to answer it. And then other people were like this is disgusting, this is gross. She should have acknowledged it.

[A]

You're never gonna, you're, you're never gonna make everyone happy. What I find strange that she did was because I would be, I would never go against Taylor Swift. Ever. Not that I have any problem with her, but she started going out, she started going out with Scooter Braun who totally over Taylor Swift and it's like that's an unusual. I mean you can't help it, you.

[B]

Fall in love it.

[A]

But supposedly he's a bit of a wank bag.

[B]

Yeah, he's a bit of a. He's, he's a bit dodge, isn't he?

[A]

But I do like me knob bag.

[B]

Not bag. He's one of you. I do feel though she, there was a weird, she'd have kind of very, I would say smug look on her face when she was saying she wasn't going to speak about it. I personally, if there was a massive fallout over the ad and I'd been in the ad, I would be like, listen, like, can't apologize enough. Wasn't the intention. You know, there's all that that you would say. I don't think I would sit there with that weird smile on my face and say there's something quite smug about her. There's just, she's, she's. I don't think she's handling what's going on with her at the mom well, I just don't think she's handling it well.

[A]

Supposedly there's a big fallout, so there's a new season of Euphoria coming out. If anyone hasn't seen Euphoria, watch season one and season two. It's amazing. But Jesus. Oh my God, Joanne, you're so. You will love, won't you Want to love it, Mo? No, you'll love it. You will start today. Zendaya is in it and supposing your and Zendaya have had a big fallout and I don't know, I get saying vibes off Zendaya. I just do same.

[B]

Yeah, I do as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, Sydney Sweeney's. There's something. She's having a bad run of us in the press and people. She's not popular on the Internet is what I'd say. But then you wonder and then did you see this? Oh my gosh.

[A]

We should be on GB News, you and I, We've got some real hard hitting stories on this part. You can be Eamon Homes I bags.

[B]

Not and ill informed opinions speak. To be quite frank, do you remember they asked me to be a contributor?

[A]

You and Nigel Farage going in holding hands.

[B]

They think she, they think she'd be a great asset. I was like, she been years. What if I accidentally tweeted in the middle of the night that I'm. I've been asked to go on GB News. Ruby Rose blames Sydney Sweeney for films box office failure. So Sydney Sweeney has been in a film that's come out called Christie, and it was about the biopic, tells the story of boxing champion Christy Martin and became one of the biggest flops of all time on its opening weekend, making just 1 million from 2,000 cinemas, a per theater average of £495. So, like, that's. And I think this is all happening because of what's going on in our. In her private life or personal life or kind of between the Scooter Braun and the. The white supremacy and the MAGA stuff and all that jazz. Right. Despite the failure, Sweeney took to Instagram to defend the movie. She says, if Christie gave even one woman the courage to take her first step towards safety, we would have succeeded. Am I proud? Yes. We don't always make art for numbers. We make it for impact. Then, Ruby Rose, investors.

[A]

It's not for the money, guys. It's not for the money.

[B]

Yeah, I know.

[A]

Yeah. I want my money back.

[B]

This 60 billion project was a passion for me as. Because it had not none of my money in it. So. But do you remember Dakota Fanning was in a flop recently and she came out, she goes, yeah, I agree. It was. Do you remember that?

[A]

No.

[B]

Yeah. And she was like, I get why it's a flop. Yeah. She goes, yeah, I didn't think it really worked either, to be honest. And the.

[A]

The fair play. True. I like her as well.

[B]

So Ruby Rose, do you know who she is?

[A]

No.

[B]

And she's a good friend of Taylor Swift. So it's all connected.

[A]

Is Ruby Rose, the Australian actress?

[B]

Ruby Rose, prominent finger in the L. Oh, she is. Prominent figure in the LGBTQ+ community. Accused Sweeney of not being connected to this aspect of the character. Or maybe Christie's. Oh, yeah, sorry, that's it. Christy Martin identifies as a lesbian and has been married to a woman since 2017. Rose, a prominent finger in the finger. Prominent figure. Prominent finger in the lesbian community. Gasp. Prominent. You'd hope to be, wouldn't you? He's one at the top of your game. Prominent figure in the LGBTQ community. Accused Winnie of not being connected that aspect of the character and called her a cretin. And obviously the. The stats on the Christie film are proof that this is having a real impact on her career. And the. The studios, she says, with no knowledge of how any of this works.

[A]

Works.

[B]

If you could lose that much money for a studio that, you know, they're not going to be banging down your door with the first scripts.

[A]

You're absolutely correct. Joanne McNally.

[B]

And I will say I'm taking an acting course next week. So, Sydney, if she's not working, I'm happy to slip in, take any roles. I'm doing an improv course. So. Yeah, send it my way.

[A]

That'll be fun.

[B]

I always said I was I could knock. I can't. Turns out I can. I did that lifestyle sports Christmas campaign and I was. I was watching the videos.

[A]

Like, I can act. Yeah. I thought for a brief moment, I thought, is that Al Pacino on screen? Because that's the vibe I'm getting.

[B]

Jennifer Lawrence in a lifestyle sports company.

[A]

I could have said something nicer.

[B]

No, I was thinking Robert De Niro.

[A]

Robert De Niro. Know. And who did we always used to say about you? What's his name? What's his name?

[B]

Meatloaf.

[A]

Remember?

[B]

Meat. Thank you. Meatloaf. Yeah, Meatloaf. Saving Christmas relax for words in his gym gear.

[A]

I get it, folks.

[B]

Promoting Pedigree Chum again. Look, there she is. Afghan handcuffs.

[A]

I swear to God, there was someone across the road for me with an Afghan hand. I swear to God, she was smirking at me. I just. I felt the high under. The owner knew the woman who owns the hand. I know. I did feel like a new. Okay, I have two things to say to you. First of all, have you watched All's Fair?

[B]

I haven't. And I. I haven't. I. And I want to. I want to, but I don't want to.

[A]

Please, God, can people not ruin this for the rest of us? Even imo loved it. It is so ridiculous that it's brilliant. And now I'm scared that everyone's been panning it so much that it won't come back. Like Sex and City. It's so good. Like, I emoji. Look, I'm caught up. I'm like a dog. I'm not gonna be able to watch it now because I nearly canceled Going in the Jungle because I was like, I can't miss those. Fair. It comes out weekly now.

[B]

Does this.

[A]

Well, like three apps, then one came out and the next one's out. Is it on Monday. I'm not gonna be able to see that. Great.

[B]

Do you hear she failed her bar exams? Kim.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

And she was on the phone to assist her, saying her psychics are all full of.

[A]

Well, they were, weren't they?

[B]

Yeah. Did not. It wasn't just on this occasion. I might. I might like to add there you.

[A]

Know how I feel about psych psychics. She's a few on the. I used to love that. Now I do have a girl who is more like a tarot reader and she is amazing. Like, you'd love to even chat to her. Penny. She's in Ireland and she's. She is. She's one that I would talk to and I keep meaning to talk to her again, but I just haven't had time. Don't even have time to talk to a therapist at the moment. I have something I need to talk about. Joanne, you know, I don't really like when you're. Right.

[B]

I am thrilled that you remember to do this because I forgot. Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I await your apology. Please, I'm ready to receive.

[A]

Well, I'm not apologizing because that's not in my nature.

[B]

Not what you do.

[A]

You're.

[B]

Yeah, do what you do. I'm sorry, boss.

[A]

I am sorry. But you might have been partly right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

About the seasons, because I got. But it just. I wouldn't say that you're fully right because supposedly there are two calendars, but if I. I would pro. I should probably be going by yours. But it turns out I am a turncoat.

[B]

Would you like to explain what you're talking about?

[A]

So Joanne said that she thought winter was in November. And I said winter starts in December.

[B]

Because that's what I more so said. I think November is in winter.

[A]

Yeah. So November is in winter. And we were wondering why it was still quite warm. But I was going by the. Basically met Aaron. Does Matt. Aaron do it as well? That. That's winter.

[B]

Well met. Yeah. So in Ireland. So in Ireland, Joe and Vogue both told me I was wrong, deranged and a fool.

[A]

And they laughed about her. And then we bitched about her after as well. Did it?

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

And then yesterday I was laugh. Yeah. And I was laughing again. Yesterday I was ringing about her and I. Telling everyone about her. Just slagging her off the whole time. Joan was going by the Irish Celtic calendar. So the Celtic calendar divides the year into four seasons. Spring, Arak, summer. I'm not going to do all them. Autumn and winter, each lasting three months, starting with.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Unlike the solar based modern calendar, the Celtic calendar is rooted in seasonal cycles and is marked by eight festivals.

[B]

Right.

[A]

The four main Celtic seasons, Spring, February, March, April. Now, I haven't seen anything pop up in February. I have not seen a single bluebell. But anyway, I'm willing to deal with this. Summer, May, June, July. What. What about August? Feels quite summery. You have to admit.

[B]

Basically Vogue has taken the soup which is a term that Irish people use for when an Irish person loses their cell in the uk.

[A]

I Do you know what? I don't even drink soup. Soup. I don't like soup and I have not taken any soup.

[B]

It is a saying and you are soupy. Max soup face. Shame on you. Egg on your face. Soup in your eyes. Okay, I'm over here.

[A]

How's your rotten Clapham?

[B]

I'm here eating shamrocks. Running for the Irish presidency at this point. You've lost. You've lost your way. Vogue, Lady Vogue.

[A]

You're going to be the next Bob Geldoff is what you're going to be when you get knighted. You'll take the nightingale pigeon shooting at.

[B]

The weekend like a turn coast.

[A]

Anyway, anyway. I am happy to go by the Celtic seasons but I have to say I don't think that August is it. I. I just feel like weather wise maybe it's because things are changing but I think for me it feels more like we should probably go with. With the solar based calendar. Not the English calendar. It's called the solar.

[B]

Oh, sorry. Okay.

[A]

Yes, the solar. I go by what the sun tells.

[B]

Me and yeah you are. Everyone knows you are a massive naturist. Am I gonna have to live listen to the pod when you're not here to see if I. If everything is okay?

[A]

Yeah, sure. Like that's ever gonna happen in a million years.

[B]

Listen to myself.

[A]

You know that really clever fella who does all the planet stuff? What's his name? All the stars that you're looking at are suns and they all have their own solar.

[B]

A solar system.

[A]

So they've all these. So all those hundreds and hundreds of stars and also those stars lights went out millions of years ago. So what you're seeing is the actual past. I was freaked out last night, nearly couldn't sleep. What's.

[B]

They're dead technically. Yeah, I know. It's mad isn't it? Isn't space mad?

[A]

Space.

[B]

Space fell.

[A]

Brian Cox. Yeah, Brian Cox, that's him.

[B]

I'll never forget a woman I knew kind of by not. Not very well but she was kind of a friend of a friend. She. She went down a kind of a big conspiracy lane and she basically. And we all went. That starts with a bit of journaling and ends with being a flat earther.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And she.

[A]

I've lost a couple of friends to that by the way. Just like the over conspiracy theories where it kind of gets to a point where like they're Trying to scare you out of drinking tap water and stuff.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're being. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Ellen DeGeneres is a lizard that, you know, that's it. That's where ultimately it ends. And okay, now, she was saying. She was online, she was on. She was doing Insta Stories, and her son was in school learning about space. And she. She was on. Doing instant. She was saying to her son, I take all that with a pinch of salt now. Space. Yeah. So, like, she wouldn't believe in the. In the moon landing and all that kind of thing. Yeah.

[A]

I know somebody who basically who believes that there's like a whole, like, we're inside a hole or something, but Buzz Aldrin, who was one of them or something. Yeah. Something crazy like that. But Buzz Aldrin has been coming out and saying. And I don't know if it's clipped up differently or something like that, but there's been a couple occasions where he's been saying that there was no moon landing, but Spenny had an astronaut on his pod and the astronaut was like, why are you asking me that question? That's like, basically, it's the most ridiculous question I've ever heard in my. Asked me that question. And Sven was like, well, it is on the Internet, but like, I don't know if Bulls Aldrin means to do that, but he's basically saying that he didn't land on the moon. Now, I. Obviously, I believe there is Buzz Aldrin.

[B]

To me, is that little Dolly sings to infinity and beyond.

[A]

No, that's Buzz Lightyear.

[B]

Buzz Lightyear.

[A]

Do you know what, Joanne? You can get stuffed. August is definitely in summer. August is in summer. I'm not having it.

[B]

It's very. It's a very vogue. It's a very vague way to defend an argument. She's like, look, look, the facts are in your favor. However, I feel that the seasons are marked incorrectly. And this is what I'm gonna do.

[A]

Is that for this podcast. Yeah.

[B]

And that's. Yeah. And let's wrap it up just there when I've said the last thing.

[A]

Will. Yeah.

[B]

Will we.

[A]

Do you remember doing that when you were younger and your parents, like. Don't answer back. Fine. Don't say anything again. I won't. And it just could stop.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Last four Jinx.

[B]

So when this airs, you will be in the jungle promoting my. Promoting my Australian tour, Is that correct?

[A]

Yeah, I'll be. As if anyone wants to see me. I'll be around the Brisbane area for a couple of days before Heading into the jungle on the Wednesday I will be flirting for Joanne's tour. And yes, I will have some discount codes for the tickets that she has kindly given me. And it's going to be a bit like, like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. One of the. One of the leaflets will have a free anxious preoccupied bag on it.

[B]

I might give you the purple jacket I'm wearing in the poster to wear when you're coming out of the bridge.

[A]

That's a brilliant idea.

[B]

Also, feel free to drop the name in. Does that. Aaron, I'm also going to New Zealand. Just if that, if, if you think of it, Auckland, Wellington. Sure.

[A]

Well, listen, I'm not a lazy girl. If you want me out there and you want me to pop over to New Zealand after, that's okay with me.

[B]

That be great. Delighted. This is I. So I am on the jungle basically, but I don't to go anywhere. Perfect. Oh my God, Vog, if you don't win that jungle for us, I swear to God you're not coming back in the podcast. I'm not gonna have a loser on this thing.

[A]

Ireland can vote, but I can't vote. But I think you can get free VPN things. They're not illegal, by the way. You can get free VPN things, which means you can vote. So try and find a way to vote. Ireland. Come on. On, come on. And England. Listening, please. And Scotland. Scotland and Wales. Sure.

[B]

England without those dodgy boxes. Let's get this across the line. Come on, across the line.

[A]

If I don't win, do you know what? If I don't win, you're not on the pod anymore because it's your job to be back here asking people to vote for me with your new co hosts.

[B]

Yes, well, I will. I will rally the troops for you. I will. I will do my very, very best. I really will.

[A]

You're on stage. I want you to have something up behind you with the number to call to vote for me. And I don't think that's a lot to ask considering I'm flying for your new shows. Fly ring.

[B]

I can't help you in Ireland now. What you've after done with the seasons, it's over for you over there. Here, it's over for you.

[A]

I'm off to have a burger for lunch because I'm really lapping it up. Got to go have a burger for lunch and I'm going to have pad Thai for dinner. And then tomorrow I'm going to eat everything within my sight. I'm going to be like pac man. And I'm not prepared to give up coffee or anything for the jungle, so.

[B]

I can't believe I get to spy on you in the jungle now for ages. This is great.

[A]

I know.

[B]

It's like having the Google doorbell on full time.

[A]

I hope I don't make a show of myself and I hope I have the best of time ever. And I'm going to miss you all, listeners included.

[B]

Bye, Vogue.

[A]

Bye.

[B]

See you later.

[A]

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