Episode Summary: Spain, Wimbledon & Glastonbury
Release Date: July 18, 2025
Hosts: Joanne McNally & Vogue Williams
Guest: Joe Ottowell
1. Welcoming Back and Holiday Updates (00:02 – 08:19)
The episode kicks off with Joanne McNally and Vogue Williams reuniting after a brief hiatus. Joanne humorously expresses relief at being back, saying, “Thank God I don't see those two pricks,” highlighting their playful dynamic. Vogue shares updates about their transition to full video episodes available on YouTube, mentioning, “I love how we were like, right, we... are getting full hair and makeup because we're not having full videos up without hair and makeup” (00:46).
Joanne dives into skincare banter, discussing the resurgence of toner and her skepticism towards it. Vogue chimes in, reminiscing about her "clear silver days" and the purpose of toning to "close your pores" after cleansing (03:05). Their light-hearted conversation sets a relaxed tone for the episode.
2. Holiday in Spain: Experiences and Wardrobe Woes (06:19 – 14:30)
Vogue shares her experience of relocating to Spain for the summer, managing work remotely while enjoying the serene environment. She mentions, “It's easier to get work done here because nothing's too distracting,” contrasting it with more exotic destinations (07:09). Joanne humorously criticizes Vogue's wardrobe situation, leading to a discussion about clothing choices for events like Wimbledon.
Joanne recounts attending Wimbledon with Vogue and receiving unsolicited outfit critiques from the audience. “I thought your dress was lovely. I thought you looked lovely,” she reflects, despite negative comments online (11:00). This segues into a conversation about maternal advice on fashion, with Joanne sharing a detailed text from her mother advising her on appropriate attire for Wimbledon (13:55).
3. Navigating Dating and Personal Boundaries (18:05 – 28:05)
The hosts shift focus to their personal dating lives. Joanne narrates her struggles with dating, including tedious dates where men attempt to "score" her without genuine connection. She humorously laments, “I'm dead inside. I said, there's no point having genitals anymore” (19:52). Vogue and Joanne discuss the challenges of modern dating, emphasizing the importance of mutual respect and genuine interest.
Joanne shares a specific incident where a date tried to force intimacy, leading her to firmly reject his advances: “I'm not doing tepid tongue anymore. I'm out” (27:40). This candid conversation highlights their assertive approach to setting boundaries and rejecting unfulfilling romantic encounters.
4. Glastonbury Ticket Scam: A Cautionary Tale (29:03 – 38:36)
A significant portion of the episode delves into a scam involving Glastonbury tickets. Joanne reveals she fell victim to a private concierge service scam, losing £2,000 while the scammer pocketed £100,000 from numerous victims. She describes the scammer's elaborate deceit, including using his parents' address for business and blaming Albanian drug lords for his fraudulent activities (29:16).
Vogue adds that the scammer mimicked successful personalities, drawing parallels to fictional characters like Frank Abagnale from "Catch Me If You Can." The hosts express empathy for the scammer's parents, who were unsuspectingly drawn into the fraud, highlighting the emotional toll on all parties involved (30:50). They discuss the broader implications of such scams and share anecdotes about others who have faced similar disappointments.
5. Festival Experiences and Social Perceptions (34:07 – 37:05)
Joanne and Vogue reminisce about their Glastonbury experiences, touching upon the stigma of drug use at festivals. Joanne shares a story about a friend, Nell, who was mistakenly accused of being on drugs due to her disoriented behavior from substances like mushrooms. She humorously clarifies, “He's walking through... I'm so glad you took it,” referencing misconceptions about her own behavior during the festival (36:20).
Vogue contrasts this by expressing her enthusiasm for future festivals, despite the challenges: “I was like, what would Joanne do? Cop onto yourself and get out there, have a double tequila and go on lines where everyone can accuse you of doing drugs” (35:30). Their banter underscores the complex social dynamics and personal responsibilities at large gatherings.
6. Fashion and Personal Style (17:02 – 27:32)
Fashion remains a recurring theme as Joanne and Vogue critique each other's outfits and share their personal style preferences. They debate the merits of materials like linen and polyester, with Joanne dismissing linen as “awful” while Vogue defends her love for linen attire in warmer climates (18:29). Their playful exchanges about fashion choices and societal expectations highlight their distinct personalities and mutual respect.
Joanne recounts a particularly embarrassing fashion moment at a birthday party, where her gesture of generosity backfired, leading to unintended disappointment for a child recipient. “When I handed it over to her, I realized with her little face... this child doesn't want this bag” (21:04). This story emphasizes the complexities of gift-giving and societal perceptions of appropriateness.
7. Closing Remarks and Future Plans (39:13 – 40:15)
As the episode wraps up, Joanne and Vogue reflect on their time apart and express excitement about returning to regular podcasting. They reaffirm their commitment to providing honest and unfiltered conversations, teasing future discussions and adventures. The hosts conclude with a heartfelt exchange, celebrating their enduring friendship and collaborative spirit: “I feel like I'VE had a break... it's not the same without you” (40:10).
Notable Quotes:
- Joanne McNally: “Thank God I don't see those two pricks.” (00:46)
- Vogue Williams: “I love how we... are getting full hair and makeup because we're not having full videos up without hair and makeup.” (00:46)
- Joanne McNally: “I'm dead inside. I said, there's no point having genitals anymore.” (19:52)
- Vogue Williams: “I was like, what would Joanne do? Cop onto yourself and get out there, have a double tequila and go on lines where everyone can accuse you of doing drugs.” (35:30)
- Joanne McNally: “When I handed it over to her, I realized with her little face... this child doesn't want this bag.” (21:04)
Key Takeaways:
- Authentic Conversations: Joanne and Vogue maintain a candid and humorous dialogue, making personal anecdotes relatable and engaging.
- Navigating Scams: The Glastonbury ticket scam serves as a cautionary tale about the prevalence of fraud in high-demand events.
- Personal Boundaries: The hosts emphasize the importance of setting boundaries in personal relationships and standing firm against unwanted advances.
- Fashion Dynamics: Their playful debates on fashion reflect broader societal expectations and personal identity expressions.
- Festival Culture: The discussion on festival experiences sheds light on the social perceptions and realities of large gatherings.
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