Podcast Summary: "The Barge, Doja Cat & Clones"

Episode Release Date: June 20, 2025
Host: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Podcast: My Therapist Ghosted Me

1. Living the Barge Life in Amsterdam

[00:10 - 03:04]

Vogue Williams kicks off the episode by sharing her recent relocation to Amsterdam, where she's embracing the unique lifestyle of living on a canal barge. Broadcasting live from her barge canal house, Vogue humorously navigates the challenges and charms of her new home environment.

• Vogue Williams: “I’m coming to you live from my barge canal boat house on the canals of Amsterdam.” [00:10]

She details her morning routine, which includes waving to her "boat landlord," German, highlighting the close-knit community of barge dwellers.

• Vogue Williams: “I am very engaged. I got to go up in the morning and have my coffee and wave to my neighbor.” [01:09]

Joanne McNally teases Vogue about her enthusiastic waving to tourists, likening it to an extended salute, which Vogue humorously describes as a "four-hour magpie shift." This segment sets a lighthearted tone, showcasing their camaraderie and adaptability to new living situations.

2. Reflections on Prostitution and Sex Work

[04:08 - 06:13]

The conversation shifts to Vogue's visit to the Museum of Prostitution in Amsterdam, prompted by an Instagram recommendation. Vogue shares her eye-opening experience, challenging the often glamorized perception of sex work.

• Vogue Williams: “I was like, yeah, of course. Prostitution, you know, it's a tough, dangerous, grim job.” [05:03]

Joanne concurs, emphasizing the duality of sex work—acknowledging its empowering aspects for some while recognizing its darker, more perilous side.

• Vogue Williams: “It's old school prostitution in Amsterdam, you know, not the... That now. It was grim. It was sad.” [05:52]

This discussion provides insightful commentary on societal perceptions of sex work, encouraging listeners to rethink preconceived notions.

3. Tribute to Kim Woodburn

[12:53 - 15:33]

Vogue and Joanne pay homage to the late Kim Woodburn, a notable TV personality known for her fiery temperament on shows like "Loose Women." They reminisce about her memorable outbursts and candid nature.

• Vogue Williams: “She was so brilliant. She couldn't even do a daytime show without freaking out somebody.” [14:02]

They reflect on Kim's unapologetic demeanor, contrasting it with their own personas and discussing the impact of such a strong character in live television settings.

4. Doja Cat and Fan Interaction

[15:33 - 19:35]

A significant portion of the episode delves into a viral interaction between Doja Cat and a devoted fan. Joanne narrates a video where Doja Cat appears exceptionally friendly, only to later refute the fan's perception of their interaction on Twitter.

• Joanne McNally: “If you haven’t seen the video, go and watch the video.” [16:49]

Vogue adds her take, empathizing with the fan's experience and critiquing the inconsistency in Doja Cat's public persona.

• Vogue Williams: “She humiliated him. Like, she, like... completely shitting all over you.” [17:38]

They discuss the broader implications of celebrity-fan relationships, highlighting the challenges celebrities face in maintaining personal boundaries while appearing approachable.

5. The Cloning Craze and Barry Diller’s Memoir

[34:07 - 38:30]

The hosts explore the concept of cloning, sparked by Barry Diller’s memoir recounting his experiences cloning his dog, Shannon. They humorously debate the merits and ethical considerations of cloning pets and even themselves.

• Vogue Williams: “I would clone you, Joe. Imagine how many shows I could do.” [37:11]

Joanne contemplates the practicality of cloning in addressing declining birth rates, adding a satirical twist to the conversation.

• Joanne McNally: “It's really freaks me out. We might start have to clone people.” [38:03]

This segment blends humor with speculative discussion, engaging listeners in a light-hearted debate about future possibilities in biotechnology.

6. Nostalgia: Confirmation and School Memories

[26:15 - 33:53]

Vogue and Joanne reminisce about their school days, specifically focusing on the rituals of confirmation and communion in Ireland. They share personal anecdotes, highlighting the mix of sincerity and superficiality associated with these ceremonies.

• Joanne McNally: “I promise I won’t drink till I’m 18. And then I was drinking as soon as I got into secondary school.” [27:25]

The conversation touches on evolving practices, such as the addition of pledges against vaping, reflecting societal changes and the ongoing struggle to influence youth behavior.

• Vogue Williams: “If you take a pledge at 12 to not drink, what has any 15-year-old... turned down a can in a field because they're like, oh, I can't.” [30:02]

Their nostalgic reflections offer a blend of humor and critique, providing relatable content for listeners who have experienced similar rites of passage.

7. Closing Banter and Final Thoughts

[39:35 - End]

As the episode winds down, Vogue and Joanne engage in playful banter about their current living situations and future plans. They joke about cloning, managing their barge life, and the absurdities of their adventures.

• Vogue Williams: “I’m moored for now. Vogue. Okay. But you don't know where I could end up tomorrow.” [40:58]

The hosts wrap up with humorous remarks, leaving listeners with a sense of their dynamic personalities and the casual, conversational style that defines the podcast.

Notable Quotes:

• Vogue Williams: “I am very much a Dutch resident now. I am a woman of the dam.” [02:21]

• Joanne McNally: “Don’t. Yeah, but like, I mean, some of it's glamorous and some people actually really enjoy it...” [05:42]

• Vogue Williams: “This is my version of going off, but because I'm on a boat, but I go off grid.” [09:12]

• Joanne McNally: “If you take a pledge at 12 to not drink, what has any 15-year-old... turned down a can in a field because they're like, oh, I can't.” [30:02]

• Vogue Williams: “I've been doing like I like I was...” [02:21]

Conclusion

In this episode of My Therapist Ghosted Me, Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally navigate a diverse range of topics, from the quirks of barge life in Amsterdam to deep reflections on societal issues like sex work and cloning. Their candid conversations, peppered with humor and personal anecdotes, offer listeners a blend of entertainment and thoughtful insight. Notable discussions, such as their take on Doja Cat's fan interactions and the ethical quandaries of cloning, provide both levity and substance, making this episode a compelling listen for fans and newcomers alike.