The Boffice, Saturday Night & Mariah Carey

Summary

Podcast Summary: "The Boffice, Saturday Night & Mariah Carey"

Episode Release Date: August 15, 2025

Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally

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1. Introduction and Setting the Mood [00:02 - 03:15]

The episode kicks off with a playful nod to ASMR, as Vogue Williams invites listeners to enjoy the soothing sounds of rain. This sets a relaxed and intimate atmosphere for the conversation.

• Vogue Williams [00:22]: "This is like an ASMR episode, really, with the rain. Can you hear the rain?"

2. The "Boffice" Concept and Personal Anecdotes [03:15 - 09:02]

Vogue introduces her unique term "boffis" (bed-office) to describe her workspace, highlighting the challenges and humor of working from bed.

• Vogue Williams [00:36]: "Do you know why I'm such a big fan of the rain? Because I'm such a house rotter. Bedrotter. And I call my bed the boffis because it's my bed office and I work from it, so I work from it so much."

Joanne adds to the banter, sharing her own humorous experiences with medical devices and the relentlessness of maintaining productivity.

• Joanne McNally [01:19]: "She has a gold commode that just sits beside her in the bed. She started out with one of the..."

3. Navigating Mood Swings and Daily Life [09:02 - 12:48]

The hosts delve into the unpredictability of emotions, discussing days when everything feels overwhelming versus days of complete calm without apparent reason.

• Vogue Williams [02:14]: "Sometimes you wake up and you feel like you have the world on your shoulders and other days you wake up and you've not. You've nothing on your shoulders at all."

4. Planning Joanne's 40th Birthday Party [09:26 - 12:48]

Joanne enthusiastically shares her plans for her upcoming 40th birthday party, expressing both excitement and anxiety about potentially inviting too many guests. The conversation is filled with humorous comparisons to infamous events like the Fyre Festival.

• Joanne McNally [09:26]: "Amber was like, wait, we should write down who's coming."

• Vogue Williams [10:08]: "You're gonna be on. This is like Fyre Festival."

5. Social Media Shenanigans and Viral Moments [16:54 - 23:00]

Vogue and Joanne discuss recent viral moments, notably Mariah Carey's appearance on Scott Mills' podcast where she mistakenly claimed Katy Perry went to space. They humorously critique the misinformation spread on social media.

• Vogue Williams [16:21]: "Do you know what I find a little ill thought out or problematic? ... when they say Katy Perry went to space."

6. Media Headlines and Personal Rumors [24:23 - 29:58]

The hosts address recent media headlines affecting them personally. Vogue reacts to a misleading story about quitting alcohol, while Joanne tackles rumors circulating on TikTok accusing them of infidelity.

• Joanne McNally [26:27]: "I was like, oh, this is quite funny. And then I was like, actually, hang on, I don't know how funny this is."

• Vogue Williams [25:07]: "Is that true? How dare he control you. This is coercive control, and I will not stand for it."

7. Navigating Online Dating and Hinge Stories [29:45 - 33:03]

Vogue shares her humorous approach to online dating on Hinge, using quirky icebreakers involving fictional stories about users' fathers to weed out unsuitable matches.

• Vogue Williams [30:24]: "One of my prompts on my dating profile is it says name one thing I'll never do again and I have your father because I think it's a nice icebreaker."

8. Book Recommendations: The "Culture Pocket" [35:34 - 36:31]

Joanne introduces her current reading obsession, Dolly Alderton's books, praising their depth and relatability. Vogue chimes in with her own literary experiences, highlighting the impact of perspective in storytelling.

• Joanne McNally [35:34]: "I just started reading Dolly Alderton's books and I'm obsessed. So I'm now on Ghosts."

• Vogue Williams [36:10]: "It's about a male stand up... I actually really enjoyed it."

9. Final Banter and Closing Thoughts [37:00 - 40:08]

The episode wraps up with light-hearted discussions about viral TikTok stories, infamous personalities, and maintaining authenticity amidst public scrutiny. The hosts emphasize the importance of keeping personal dramas private and fostering genuine connections.

• Vogue Williams [37:30]: "It's called the Cupcakes that broke the Internet."

• Joanne McNally [38:19]: "I think you do protest too much this is like when someone tells you something and they're like don't tell anyone you're like sure who would I tell?"

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Notable Quotes:

• Vogue Williams [02:14]: "Sometimes you wake up and you feel like you have the world on your shoulders and other days you wake up and you've not. You've nothing on your shoulders at all."

• Joanne McNally [09:26]: "Amber was like, wait, we should write down who's coming."

• Vogue Williams [25:07]: "Is that true? How dare he control you. This is coercive control, and I will not stand for it."

• Vogue Williams [30:24]: "One of my prompts on my dating profile is it says name one thing I'll never do again and I have your father because I think it's a nice icebreaker."

• Joanne McNally [35:34]: "I just started reading Dolly Alderton's books and I'm obsessed."

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Conclusion

In this vibrant and candid episode, Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally navigate a myriad of topics ranging from personal anecdotes about working from bed to tackling viral media moments and rumors. Their blend of humor, honesty, and heartfelt discussions offers listeners a relatable and entertaining experience, embodying the podcast's commitment to "100% honesty guaranteed."

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For more insights and conversations, visit mytherapistghostedme.com or contact the hosts at [e-mail].

Transcript

[Vogue Williams]

This is a Global Player original podcast.

[Joanne McNally]

Hello and welcome to My therapist ghosted me with me, Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally.

[Vogue Williams]

This is like an ASMR episode, really, with the rain. Can you hear the rain?

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, she's rain.

[Vogue Williams]

Can you hear the rain, Jo?

[Joe]

It's gonna be a lot about the rain today.

[Joanne McNally]

Just don't love the rain as much as you do. Wait over here. How much this girl loves the rain.

[Vogue Williams]

Do you know why I'm such a big fan of the rain? Because I'm such a house rotter. Bedrotter. And I call my bed the boffis because it's my bed office and I work from it, so I work from it so much. Do you like the Boffas, Jo?

[Joanne McNally]

It's good, isn't it?

[Vogue Williams]

Can I see you at my boffis for a second, please? If there's a HR issue, I'm like, please meet me in my bopus when it's raining. I don't feel guilty for not leaving the boffis. I'm like, I can stay in my boffis because no one else is leaving the boffis today.

[Joanne McNally]

You know, Bed Soares McNally is just a ring vogue.

[Vogue Williams]

I'm like, send Gigi up to turn me. I've been on my. I've been on my flat, my back for four hours now. Someone needs to turn me. I need to get put on a pig spit in my box. And so someone can just come in and turn me on a stick.

[Joanne McNally]

She has a gorgeous. What's that thing called that you piss into? Commode. She has a gold commode that just sits beside her in the bed. She started out with one of the.

[Vogue Williams]

A catheter.

[Joanne McNally]

Of a catheter. She started out with one of those cardboard boxes from the hospital that you get to vomit, and now she's moved up to a catheter.

[Vogue Williams]

I'm a catheter because I'm a CEO. Okay. I don't have time to leave the bafus to use a human toilet. I'm just flat out closing deals and changing lives. My cleaner sometimes is like, oh, could you not use the catheter today? No, it's just. Just fell out. Did it like. Sorry, girls. Just flat out being a business. I actually am in good form today.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, I love that for you.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah. How's it. What's the crap? I actually am. I'm in good form. Yeah. I don't know why. I have no reason to be, but I am just.

[Joanne McNally]

Life sometimes has you in great form. Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

And it's funny because I like. Like I say, there's nothing wrong with me, but sometimes you wake up and you're just. You feel like you have the world on your shoulders and other days you wake up and you've not. You've nothing on your shoulders at all. And there's no explanation for it. I'm skipping through the parks. Don't know what's going on.

[Joanne McNally]

I'm having one of those strange days. I'm not in a bad mood, but, like, I just feel. I feel like I'm in a rush. I'm in a rush, a permanent rush. Since I got back, I feel like I went on holidays and now I'm getting like. It's like I'm almost in trouble for us. There's so much stuff that I have to catch up on.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, you're in catchy uppy mode.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. I don't know. I don't love it.

[Vogue Williams]

That's the.

[Joe]

Change down a gear for the next 40 minutes.

[Joanne McNally]

Just really a. Let's just chill with each other.

[Vogue Williams]

Can I just start the conversation by.

[Joanne McNally]

Saying I love you too? I love you too.

[Vogue Williams]

I love you too. Yeah. And I forgave you for telling me and Joe to go ourselves before we started recording.

[Joanne McNally]

Did I?

[Vogue Williams]

You did. With your eyes. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

I don't remember that, but I could have said it.

[Vogue Williams]

No, you did. Your eyes said it. It's fine.

[Joanne McNally]

Okay, okay. Okay. I.

[Vogue Williams]

So I'm in London, where there is this weird microclimate that I've been actually googling of late because it gets so hot in London. And as a Dublin girl, I. I find it suffocating. As a white Irish person, obviously I'm not equipped and I. When I say, like, I. Obviously we know Vogue has a touch of the Prince Andrews, but, like, real Prince Andrews, as in, like, not fake Prince Andrews. She doesn't sweat.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, just the sweating part of it. Thanks. I'm glad you.

[Vogue Williams]

I'm glad you confirmed. Sorry, the other bits.

[Joanne McNally]

That.

[Vogue Williams]

The other similarities in character.

[Joanne McNally]

Joanne.

[Vogue Williams]

The other bits hasn't been confirmed with Vogue, but she does have. She is royal adjacent, so you wouldn't know. She's probably been knighted on the sl. Just hasn't told us. But anyway, I. Oh, I bob G off. Of course I did Bob G. I sweat like a. I sweat everywhere. Like, it's. I've discussed this before. It's like I've done a spinning class and all I have to do is just move anything over 12 degrees. If I. Just any quick movement from me and I'm Just like gushing in all the wrong places. Okay, so then today I was out in the. I was out doing it, pumping a bit of ass with Olivia. Wait until you see my ass has grown 1 millimeter per buttock cheek and you're gonna be fuming. Which. Jealousy. When you see it.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, I'm not. Well, to be honest with you, my RS has looked worse.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, fair. Okay. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

When it. When it had that rash from holidays. Now I'm back, the rash is gone. It looks great.

[Vogue Williams]

Did you see my insta story of me dropping my. Dropping my squatting building? Did you not see it?

[Joanne McNally]

No. You've always been a good squatter.

[Vogue Williams]

I have, yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Is this because I used to live in your basement? Is that what. Is that what you're getting at?

[Joanne McNally]

No, I actually wasn't. Remember we trained with John, and John was like, oh, my God, vogue. Do this, do it like Joanne. And I was like, pardon me?

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, I go deep and anything I say now sounds like. Like sexual.

[Joanne McNally]

I mean, you're talking about gushing and going deep. Like, where is it going?

[Vogue Williams]

I can't help it. I told you, I'm an incel. Now any opportunity to make any sexual innuendo and I'm like, Brown's Boys. So embarrassing. Or it's that. I don't even mean to say it. Anyway, I was squatting and growing my badunkadunk in the. In Clapham Common. And well, like I say, I'm making good progress. And next thing, the sky opened and the rain came and it was like a scene. Oh, camera's gone again.

[Joanne McNally]

Apocalyptic.

[Vogue Williams]

It was apocalyptic. It was stunning. I could hear the thunder coming. It was. The clouds were rolling in. It was like a scene at a Pride and Prejudice. I was moved by it. I was moved.

[Joanne McNally]

I wasn't moved because I was in the park when that happened as well, collecting the kids from camp. And so we all had to hide in a bush. And then I told you. And Joe thought I was dogging, which I wasn't. I was collecting my children from camp. I don't dog during the day, Joe. Yeah, I don't do it during the day. It was awful. I just had a blow dry and I was like. I thought I was like looking great. And I was like, God, this is great. Now for the pod, for the YouTube. I've. I've had a blow dry and stuff. And then I just was like a.

[Vogue Williams]

Wet dog, you know, you actually look fine. But I just. I just. I did like it. It was quite. It was like something from the Lion King. It was just. It's giving. Do you know what I mean? The weather has broken. And I. Can I just say, as a white Irish person, I am. I could not be more thrilled. I was gonna. I was thinking I was gonna have to buy a coffin freezer and just live in it for the summer. For the rest of the summer.

[Joanne McNally]

I couldn't cope, Joanne. And I just have different sweat levels. So yesterday I was in Dublin and.

[Vogue Williams]

I was filming you've no pores Vogue. It's weird.

[Joanne McNally]

Hi, Donna. I just had my hair and makeup done, right? And we had an hour. We were in the. There's a hotel called the Leinster there. I have never eaten so much food in my life. The food is so good there. Anyway, so they'd rented out this room and we were. We were shooting there, and I was like, ah, I have an hour in between. And the gym in that hotel is, like, top notch. Like, I don't know, like, I assume Equinox or something would be one of those really expensive gyms. And so I said, I'll take myself down now. I've got a spare 40 minutes and my.

[Vogue Williams]

Jesus Christ, you're someone I know.

[Joanne McNally]

My cousin was doing my makeup and I was like, rebecca, don't worry, I won't sweat. And I went down, I did the workout, came back dry as a bone.

[Vogue Williams]

It's insane.

[Joanne McNally]

Two.

[Vogue Williams]

Two parts, that story. Most people overeat and they just roll around to the couch like a slug. You were like. The way you were driven with the exercising. It's so impressive, Joe, isn't it?

[Joe]

It's incredible.

[Joanne McNally]

You have to see the gym.

[Joe]

I've tried exercising. It just makes me angry. I hate it.

[Vogue Williams]

You hate a Joe? Yeah, but I really want to like it.

[Joe]

And I know that as I. As I edge towards 40 and 50, I know I got to do something, but I. I can't.

[Vogue Williams]

You know what?

[Joanne McNally]

You should.

[Vogue Williams]

Joe, your main concern when you're edging towards 40 is protein. Listen, it's all I eat day in, day out. I'm up in the middle of the night, I'm setting alarms. I'm up at 3am I just ate a whole turkey there. I'm actually. I'm just. I just ate 60kg of turkey when I come in, and I'm just, like, manifesting it straight to my ass cheeks, because that's when you. When you hit 40. It's all about the pros, the game. It is, but no one knows what that is.

[Joanne McNally]

I think it's about the collagen. I'll do the protein as well. But I really. But then you tell me about the creatine. And I was like, am I supposed to be on this? But now you're talking about protein.

[Vogue Williams]

It's also about the pension. Like, there's so much going on, there's so much paperwork to do, you know, you can't keep up. But my trainer, Olivia, was saying to me, she was like, are you on the creatine? I said, you know, I'm on the creatine. And I said. And I said, olivia, why am I on the creatine? And she said, because it's good when you're repeatedly training day after day. And I said, yeah, so why am I on it? I'm not training day after day after day. There's really no need for me to be on it. But listen, I do as I'm told.

[Joanne McNally]

I might get myself on the creatine. My God. Talking about turning 40. So Amber and I. I have this list for my party, and I sent out an orsvp, and obviously no one bothers their whole getting back to it. So there was like, 35 people that got back to it. And I was like, that's not so bad for the party. I hope there's more. And then Amber was like, wait, we should write down who's coming.

[Vogue Williams]

Well, I have made.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, no, it's not good. Oh, no. If everyone comes, I'm. If everyone. It's. It's bigger than my first wedding. What? Yes.

[Vogue Williams]

Are you serious?

[Joanne McNally]

Yes. I'm terrified.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, dear. Ah. Oh, my God. You're gonna be on. This is like, Fyre Festival. Or you're gonna be on. On that series called Train Wreck where there was an episode where someone's. Someone put their party on Facebook and their house got rinsed. No, it's. It's gonna be. What's it. Is it in Between Us? What's that film where they all go and they. And the. What's it called, Joe? You know, it's of your generation. They're all jumping off the roof into the pool and all. Come on.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, I know that. I know that.

[Vogue Williams]

Come on, Joe.

[Joanne McNally]

Got that really good song in it.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Is it a Boys?

[Vogue Williams]

I only know that it's that song which sounds like Twinkle, Twinkle, Twinkle Twinkle Little Star. Yeah, but it's Steve Aoki. Sorry, Javote. That's so exciting.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, yeah, it is exciting, but, like, there's now I'm like, oh, my God. Like, I have to actually, like, I had to order, like, cushions for outside for people to Sit on. Because there might be a hundred people in my house. And then I know that I've forgotten if anyone is friends of mine. And I've forgotten to invite you. Don't just be in a sulk. It's like I can't control it. There's too many people that I might not invite that I've forgotten to invite.

[Joe]

It's got an invitation now.

[Vogue Williams]

That's. It is.

[Joanne McNally]

That's Ireland.

[Vogue Williams]

Beep, beep, beep. Howth Road H. There.

[Joanne McNally]

There is. I had. I got security. I have security now. I'm like, I didn't.

[Vogue Williams]

You did. No. Oh, my God. Celtic tiger. This is security. Oh, my God. It's Ronan Keegan going. What's happening here? Are the cores going?

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah. Are you paying for them? Because if you are, then, yes, I'll get the chorus. Happy birthday to me.

[Vogue Williams]

What do you mean? Are they not up for a swipe up? Collab? I'm absolutely shock.

[Joanne McNally]

I was gonna say 20 off the next gig. There you go.

[Vogue Williams]

Well, as we're speaking about it, I have some bad news that I've been very much dreading to tell you.

[Joanne McNally]

What?

[Vogue Williams]

I can't go.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, that's bad.

[Vogue Williams]

What have you done?

[Joanne McNally]

You confirmed. You confirmed.

[Vogue Williams]

I confirmed.

[Joanne McNally]

No, you have to tell me what's. What's getting in the way.

[Vogue Williams]

I'm filming that interior show and I didn't realize it's on the same day.

[Joanne McNally]

Joanne, if I was you, I'd move that.

[Vogue Williams]

I know. I don't know what to do.

[Joe]

Oh, take sip of drink, because they are.

[Vogue Williams]

I can't.

[Joanne McNally]

The present would want to be substantial.

[Vogue Williams]

I'm so sorry. And it will be, because, you know.

[Joanne McNally]

It'Ll also be on time.

[Vogue Williams]

It'll be your 50th by the time I get around to it. I was actually so nervous when I saw.

[Joanne McNally]

Hi. Thank God. That's one off. Yes. 99.

[Vogue Williams]

I was really nervous when I saw. I was like, oh, no. Oh, no, this is so bad. I can't go. But now that you've made that statement, I'm like, she'll be thrilled.

[Joanne McNally]

I. Listen. Anyone else wants to cancel, feel free. And you can find.

[Vogue Williams]

You can have the drink quota now, because I'm not going. If that makes you feel any better.

[Joanne McNally]

I'll get to bed before 2. It's all good news. This is good news.

[Vogue Williams]

You know what I mean? If I were you, I would have given me a fake date anyway, to be honest, I like to keep a party going now. You'll just be sure you just have it. You'll just have a little garden party in the afternoon with the patty. Like the kids.

[Joanne McNally]

I would be love. I. Well, anyway, I'm really excited for it. I'm like, I'm nearly done with all the organizing. And by the way, it's not the only party I'm gonna have because I just thought I never drag out birthdays and this is my 40th and I'm gonna drag it. Drag it out.

[Vogue Williams]

You should. It's a big age. But I'll tell you this. I said it before and I'll say it again. Best decade of my life. Now I'm only two, I'm only two years in, but it is the best decade of my life so far.

[Joanne McNally]

Genuinely, I. I think, Listen, I think it will be too. By 30, I was getting divorced and I had no kids. I thought I'd have kids by the age of 30 and now by 40, I just feel like. I feel like things are settling a bit more.

[Vogue Williams]

Your 20s and 30s are for learning everything you need to know. And then your 40s are for just kind of sitting back and implementing everything.

[Joanne McNally]

Do you know how I knew I was really coming into my 40s? So I had to go to Leeds on Saturday to film and I got up to Leeds and It was like 9 o' clock at night and I was in the train station and I was like, what the hell is going on? There was people in fancy dress, there was people crying. I saw someone puking. I saw a girl fighting with her fell on the phone. I was like, oh my God, what is happening? What's happening in Leeds?

[Vogue Williams]

What a boss.

[Joanne McNally]

I know. But I was like, oh, I feel a little bit nervous. This is a bit. Is this dangerous? Why is it so dangerous? At 9 o' clock I got into the taxi and I was like, dude. I said, what the hell is going on? Like, what's. What's happening here? He was like, what do you mean? I was like, why is there so many people? He was like, it's. It's Saturday night. And I was like, oh my God, am I that much of a sad loser that I don't even know what it's. He's like, how do you not. You know? I was like, I thought was a festival. And he was like, when was the last time you were out? I was like, I don't really go out at the weekend.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, you're like March 1997.

[Joanne McNally]

But I honestly felt uncomfortable and I was like trying to figure it. I was like googling these. I was like, what is on in Leeds today, but it was like. And he said it was a tame Saturday night as well, because all the students aren't there. That bad. Cost you nothing with the. Where you get out of it. Paid for itself.

[Vogue Williams]

Paid for itself over and over and over again.

[Joanne McNally]

Did you hear Gigi on my Instagram? Did you see that video of her?

[Vogue Williams]

No, what you do?

[Joanne McNally]

I thought you'd absolutely love it. I have to find it for you. Did you see a Joe? And I never realized that she had such a posh accent.

[Vogue Williams]

This whole episode has just been a slow admittance that none of us look at each other's insta stories.

[Joanne McNally]

I usually look at yours, though.

[Vogue Williams]

Joe. I would have bafted you not see it on my stories.

[Joe]

He's like, oh, yeah, sure, I guess I must have.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, you see, you rarely miss something, as usual. Now I have to say, I'm surprised you missed her.

[Vogue Williams]

Okay, here we go. Hold on. Thank you, Nanny Sandra, so much. What? I love my outfit. No. Oh, my God, is she putting that on?

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, no.

[Vogue Williams]

I hear Vogue. This is too much. Come here.

[Joanne McNally]

Listen to me. She says Sandra, though. She doesn't say Sandra.

[Vogue Williams]

Thank you, Nanny Sandra, so much. I love my outfit. Omg. I think children in Mary Poppins honesty.

[Joanne McNally]

When she said it, I was like, where did she get that one? I was proud of the Sandra, though, because sometimes it could be Sandra.

[Vogue Williams]

She's like, thank you, Nanny Sandra.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Sandra. Sandra.

[Joanne McNally]

T. Where are you?

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, wow, you've done a number on her, haven't you?

[Joanne McNally]

I don't know where she got it from.

[Vogue Williams]

No, the land she's in, but that's. That's extra. Sp. Must be taking her out in the slide, giving her allocution lessons or something. That's insane.

[Joanne McNally]

I know. Maybe it's the school or something. I don't know where she's learning it.

[Vogue Williams]

Wow.

[Joanne McNally]

I know. So we're moving home. I have booked Kevin Carey. He's collecting all my stuff next.

[Vogue Williams]

I was gonna say, if you want any chance of a career in Ireland, well, God, I'd be beeping that out, Joe. I'd be bleeping that out. A quick one I would like to reflect on, if you don't mind. Have you seen. Did you see Mariah Carey floating around the Internet? She was on with thumbnails. And he's really. He's really sounding really funny, by the way. Not that that's a surprise to anyone, but I did his podcast at Ryland. They're very funny. But he. She was on with him and he just threw it into conversation as you do, threw it into combo that Katy Perry had been to space. Because it's just assumed one knows that everybody knows it. Like the same way you know, the earth is flat. It's just everyone has that information. Everyone has that information. Oh, sorry, Red, I meant round.

[Joanne McNally]

She's exposed herself. Joanne, I told you not to tell anyone.

[Vogue Williams]

She says, shoveling all her crystals out.

[Joanne McNally]

Of you on the YouTube channel.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, my God, I met round. I actually did be around. I don't know where that came from. Well, actually, we don't have any proof either way. So, you know, this is how I know I have to shut the laptop at night when I've just gone down too many holes. Do you know what I mean?

[Joanne McNally]

Don't start talking to her about 911 Vogue.

[Vogue Williams]

You know, that was an inside job. I've made my points very clear there and you can't rebuke them. But she was on with Scott, threw into conversation saying Katy Perry opened his face and Mariah genuinely. And you never know with Mariah if she's doing it on purpose, if it's in character or she's genuinely that out of the loop. She was like. Went to space. Like, this was complete news to her. And I was like, Mariah, obviously, it's hilarious. And it went viral, which maybe I'm like, maybe that's like. Unless you're. There's things that you're like, oh, unless you're living under a rock, but like, unless you're living in Middle Earth, you know that Katy Perry went to space.

[Joanne McNally]

But maybe she's one of those people, right, that she's. Because she's so hyper famous, that maybe, like, honestly, she's. I just don't imagine her sitting there scrolling. I think she's got better things to do. Like, none of us have better things to do. We love citizens growing. But maybe she just doesn't give a shite.

[Vogue Williams]

Unless she's living in apocalyptic cave underground, like a bunker. Unless she takes in no media whatsoever and no one speaks to her at all. And she just lives in a soundproof booth and just comes out of Christmas to sing I. And then does the odd interview. How could you not know she does it on purpose? The same way she pretended she didn't know who JLO was. And I love it.

[Joanne McNally]

She kind of. Well, that was shade, obviously, but I think the Katy Perry thing. But she was kind of like, to evade Katy Perry, good for. Good for her. That's really amazing. It's like, is this. And she was like, what do you Mean, they went to. She went to space. It's like, no, she actually left the atmosphere and she's like, wow, good for her.

[Vogue Williams]

I'd say Katie was like, for fuck's sake. The story has just died. And now here we go again. Mariah Carey has accidentally resuscitated us with Scott Mills. I just think the power of a viral moment similar to that guy Vogue that we were talking about. Your mom with the LEGO haircut in Ibiza.

[Joanne McNally]

Ibita Boss. Is that what he was called? The Ibiza Final boss?

[Vogue Williams]

Final boss.

[Joanne McNally]

He looks. Juwan, if you came home with him and brought him to my gaffe, I wouldn't be surprised. No, I wouldn't be surprised.

[Vogue Williams]

You wouldn't be surprised. He's right up my alley now. Right up my alley. Yeah, I do. I now. I do think the hair is a little severe. I don't know what. I don't know. Have you seen this guy? Joe? You've seen this guy?

[Joanne McNally]

Mariah has seen him.

[Vogue Williams]

I was like, I have nothing to know anything about Katie in space, but I would like to speak about the Final Boss. I beat the guy.

[Joanne McNally]

There's Lego made after him. And, like, he's. I saw him standing beside Solomon, this massive DJ who I absolutely love in Ibiza. Just standing there, like, in the booth with Solomon, just dancing. People are paying him to go to their clubs and party. He was basically filmed at Ocean beach and he was dancing, but he had these, like, shades on and, like, just not a funny outfit, but the whole. The whole thing together. And the Luke.

[Vogue Williams]

It's a Luke, as they'd say. As the kids would say. It's a Luke. It's a. It's a Luke. It would be a great.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, it's.

[Vogue Williams]

It's a real Luke. Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Just his dancing in his face was so serious and it was so repetitive that he was just standing there doing it. And it's.

[Vogue Williams]

It's the hair. He's got this insane, insane haircut.

[Joanne McNally]

And we.

[Vogue Williams]

We.

[Joanne McNally]

It's an all his friends.

[Vogue Williams]

That must be the new.

[Joanne McNally]

It must be the new do or something that. I think that, like. Joe, I'm telling you, you're gonna start flattening that. That hair on your head. His name is Jack, by the way. He's only 26 and he's from. Oh, he's a Georgie.

[Vogue Williams]

Is he Georgie? Yeah, he's Newcastle. He's like the Newcastle version of Anna Wintour. Do you know the way Anna Wintour has this really kind of distinct bob and haircut? She's basically like the Geordie version. The male Geordie version of Anna Win.

[Joanne McNally]

It looks like someone put a bowl on his head and just trimmed around it. Like when. When they were younger, he used to get that done.

[Vogue Williams]

It's so rare you see a man with such a statement hairpiece. We've had the plob with Victoria Beckham. The. No, the blob. What you call her the long bob. The lob with the lob with Victoria Beckham.

[Joanne McNally]

Blob.

[Vogue Williams]

Jennifer Aniston. What's wrong with me today?

[Joanne McNally]

Very good's very blobby, isn't it? Very blobby.

[Vogue Williams]

Then we had Jennifer Aniston, kind of the. She had the 90s.

[Joanne McNally]

And feathered.

[Vogue Williams]

Gorgeous feathered. And then Farrah Fawcett had. And we've had nothing since. Jack K is his name, I believe.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

He's doing it for the lads. What I want to know is, what do you ask for when you go into your barber? You know the way, like, I'd say a little shaping around the face or, you know, like some layers. Like, what is he? What. What do you ask for when you look at.

[Joanne McNally]

I want to look like the Lego Man. I want to look like the Lego Man. That's it.

[Vogue Williams]

It's also mixed with the teeth and the big glasses. It's quite the look. But like I say, I'm here for it. He looks like he's great crack. He's already brought out a single, apparently.

[Joanne McNally]

Shut up. Honestly, I'd say he's great crack, apparently.

[Vogue Williams]

It's questionable the quality, but who cares?

[Joanne McNally]

There's nothing wrong with a questionable single. Joanne. Huh? People in glass houses, right?

[Vogue Williams]

He's all over the Daily Mail with photos with his. With his barber, the two of them with their arms around each other. And his barber's like, I don't know what all the fuss is about. It's like, dude, do you know what.

[Joanne McNally]

I love about him? I have to say, he just. Honestly, he's just out there and he just looked like he was having such a good time and he went and he. Like, he has, as you said, he has this Luke and he loves the Luke and he's out there and he's just having fun and it's so nice to see.

[Vogue Williams]

It's great to see him immediately flying private, bringing out singles, apparently.

[Joanne McNally]

Private.

[Vogue Williams]

He's flying private.

[Joanne McNally]

Who flew him? That's a DJ that flew him out, obviously.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah. Okay. And so he's. Yeah. And he's releasing singles and all. Had I known it was that easy. Here's me breaking my Hole doing clubs and touring. Had I known all I had to do was go and visit that barber in Newcastle, I would have done it five years ago. Unbelievable stuff. We're all out here working our hole off and he just gets a dodgy haircut and he's done.

[Joanne McNally]

I think she looks like a Kardashian.

[Vogue Williams]

She'll say anything to get me to perform.

[Joanne McNally]

I've never seen you look better or be on better form. I actually wanted to talk to you about something that I saw in the press. Right. And only because it's. For some reason it's come to relate back to me.

[Vogue Williams]

Did you see Fab?

[Joanne McNally]

I know. It's always me. I'm fed off of it.

[Vogue Williams]

Listen, I know, and it is tough that it's you, but you are the media darling and it does drive traffic back to the podcast. So me and Joe are always fake. Sad for you when you get a bad headline, but really, we're like, thank God.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, I was with the tampon story on the bonus. I was really considering. I was like, I don't know if I should put up the tampon story because I just don't want that to. To come out. But anyway, there was another story today that I saw, and I. Spencer hasn't come at me for it. Vogue Williams reveals she's quit alcohol after teetotal husband told her to try to lay off the booze.

[Vogue Williams]

Is that true? How dare he control you. This is coercive control, and I will not stand for it.

[Joanne McNally]

So I was basically doing Never Live a Day with Sean Walsh. And that's when I had gone on one of my trips where I was like, oh, no, I'm not drinking. Not drinking for three months. No, Spenny said it's a great thing to do, blah, blah, blah. And then I saw that, and I was like, oh. Because the episode just came out. I have drank a lot since then. Obviously, Sean didn't know that. I always say that. Of course. Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

He took you seriously. Yeah, I know, but I saw drink. Yeah, no, but.

[Joanne McNally]

But that's not the headline. So did you see all that stuff going on with mining class?

[Vogue Williams]

I did. Now, you're gonna have to explain that delicately. Delicately enough.

[Joanne McNally]

Well, I'm just gonna explain it for. For what it is. So basically, mining class came out and said that there was somebody in the public eye that had slept with her husband when they were together. Now, I don't know if Mylene's gonna ever to say who it was or anything like that, but guess who's been getting DMs.

[Vogue Williams]

You, me.

[Joanne McNally]

I know it's actually quite nice to be like seen as that for a moment in time because it's never been me to be the cheaty one. But yeah, people are like, oh, I heard. Did you not see? They commented under like one of our videos as well, someone else did, saying it was me. And I was like, oh, this is quite funny. And then I was like, actually, hang on, I don't know how funny this is. Like there's. I've had about eight DMs about this now.

[Vogue Williams]

Do you know what I find a little ill thought out or problematic? I would say when. When celebrities and like we all love a bit of drama. We love bit of tea love, bit of love, the juice and all that jazz. When they tell a story about and they say they imply, not imply, they basically say like someone in the public eye or another influencer or someone who is really well respected or someone who's very well known and then they just leave it there and as an anonymous story. And then everyone's jumping in, tagging people they think it is and accusing people and it's like, you're just like, listen, I understand why my in class did it. She's obviously fuming about it and it's obviously something that's really stuck with her and I would be the exact same. And it's frustrating for her because she wants that person to suffer but she knows she can't really out them because it's just not the done thing. It's a bit tacky if you just kind of name and shame them. But you are also dragging all these other people into your drama that probably don't deserve to be there. TikTok is full of it at the moment. I've kind of given up on. It's just people. It's so annoying.

[Joanne McNally]

It's like I haven't even looked at the tik tok. It's probably going for me there. And by the way, I was going to come out and say, well, I've never even met him. But then I was like, no, I'm too scared that like, what if we'd ever been at the same event and like he was P in the background or something. There's like, oh, there's another light. I would just like to say swear on my dad's grave. Is that bad? It wasn't me.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, but you know what? Someone did something really bad to my in class. Well, two people did. Her husband and this other person. It was really bad. But like some of the stuff that's going on on tick tock at the mom moment they're basically saying this influencer who I really liked unfollowed me and I'm just disgusted by and everyone's like who who? And they're just jumping and it's like she unfollowed you. Like there's a lot of it's just non stories then they're kind of I don't know it's just like it seems a bit juvenile to me to be honest but in fairness to Mylene I will say that I do get fair.

[Joanne McNally]

Enough I. I kind of, I kind of get that in a way but I, I wouldn't I like even with people that have cheated on me I'd rather just not like I just, I.

[Vogue Williams]

Just wouldn't oh no like we've both been cheated on by people and we just vent to each other about because we know who they cheated on us with and we just vent to each other about it and slag them off but we don't we wouldn't be ours doing it publicly because like we say it's just not a good look. Some shit's better on the insides even.

[Joanne McNally]

Though it probably feels good to out.

[Vogue Williams]

Of course it does it's never and actually I'd say for Mylene she probably wants to poke the bear bitch she probably wants to you know make your one a little nervous whoever it is but yeah what are you gonna do? Men are gonna man the men are.

[Joanne McNally]

Gonna man and those are the things that happened and also p S It's not me so like stop mailing me about it and stop and stop leaving comments under my posts it wasn't me.

[Vogue Williams]

I think you do protest too much this is like when someone tells you something and they're like don't tell anyone you're like sure who would I tell? And you already have the full list of who you're gonna tell straight away you're like I know exactly if someone.

[Joanne McNally]

If someone tells me a secret I'm like I know I swear no I won't no I won't I won't tell anyone but I will tell Spencer number I'm like just so you know Spencer.

[Vogue Williams]

Number will know of course on me if I get a drink into you.

[Joanne McNally]

And some yeah and sometimes John sometimes.

[Vogue Williams]

I will get if she gets a drink in her she'll tell me something yeah while you were getting that vogue while you're getting DMS accusing you of being involved in a quite high class love triangle yeah yeah I've been dabbling Back on hinge of late.

[Joanne McNally]

Okay.

[Vogue Williams]

The age of, you know, the summer existential crisis. It's almost coughing season. I need to get back in the game. I have to remember now it's going to break into my door.

[Joanne McNally]

Very well.

[Vogue Williams]

Thank you. Thank you. I won't deny it. I've been squatting like a motherfucker.

[Joanne McNally]

The bomb is ready.

[Vogue Williams]

As I've previously told you, both in private and also publicly on the part. One of my prompts on my dating profile is it says name one thing I'll never do again and I have your father because I think it's a nice icebreaker. I think it kind of gets the chat going and then they each come back saying he's dead. And then I come back going give me the coordinate coordinates, I'll dig him up, blah, blah, blah. And it just gets the conversation going and it weeds out the week.

[Joanne McNally]

What a sexy girl.

[Vogue Williams]

Tanya, give me the coordinate. That's why I'm squatting so hard. Because I have to have something to offer and it's clearly not my character.

[Joanne McNally]

Don't give him the Insta. Don't give them the Insta.

[Vogue Williams]

I know, I never give the Insta. I don't give the Insta.

[Joanne McNally]

My God.

[Vogue Williams]

So anyway, so I said your father, which again like I say it's. It's a bit like, you know, it's a bit tongue in cheek, but whatever. Anyway, his profile says I take pride in. That's his hint, that's his prompt and he says being a loving, connected and emotionally aware dad. I have an adored 10 year old daughter who lives with me half of the time. P.S. have shaved my beard off. So main pick is the only up to date image. His response to me underneath your father is that because he wiped his on the curtains after banging your mom.

[Joanne McNally]

Sorry, what?

[Vogue Williams]

So I got that first and then I read the my take pride of being a loving, connected and emotionally aware dad. I have an adored 10 year old daughter who lives with me half the time.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh my God.

[Vogue Williams]

I know.

[Joanne McNally]

Why did you write back?

[Vogue Williams]

I didn't write back anything.

[Joanne McNally]

But I feel like that's like the modern day flasher. Like you know that they just because they get a rise out of you so that. So if they can't flash their dick. Well they can I suppose. But like instead of doing that he just tried to really shock.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, it's a metaphorical mental dick, I guess. He has flashed. He's flashed. Well, what he has done is flash his personality and it's quite something.

[Joanne McNally]

How does that even like Come into your brain to say something like that?

[Vogue Williams]

How can you say that and in the same breath talk about how you take pride in your daughter? Like it's so bad.

[Joanne McNally]

Imagine someone speaking to your daughter like that. Dude. Absolutely sicko.

[Vogue Williams]

What did he say? Hold on. What was it? Being in a. Being a love and connected and emotionally aware. Dad. And then to me.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, I would have had to have sent him back his. His profile. I would have just screen grabbed it and sent it back to him.

[Vogue Williams]

Is that because your father wiped his in the curtains after banging your mom?

[Joanne McNally]

But again, it's why I don't like you touching hotel curtains either. Because I do believe things like that go on.

[Vogue Williams]

They do. And I would suggest both of you stay fir your marriages, no matter what happens, stay locked in there. Guys.

[Joe]

I don't know if it makes it. It doesn't make sense either, though.

[Joanne McNally]

I don't know what. I don't know what he was trying to say about it.

[Vogue Williams]

I think. Okay, let's unpack it. You're right, guys.

[Joanne McNally]

Let's.

[Vogue Williams]

Let's dig into this.

[Joe]

Just saying something aggressive.

[Vogue Williams]

It doesn't even name one thing you'll never do again. And I have said your father. Okay, Now I think it's. I think it's.

[Joanne McNally]

We're unpacking.

[Vogue Williams]

We're unpacking. We're unpacking. I think it's understood that I've never met said father and this is just a kind of icebreaker gag. Like I say weed out the week.

[Joanne McNally]

His response, sexual in nature as well, to show that.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, it's kind of like your dad. It's one of your dad. I took. You know, one of those your dad jokes. It's like, look, I'm not here to show off cocktails and bikinis. I'm not here to around. Okay, yeah. I'm here to connect on a spiritual level. That's why I've written this prompt.

[Joanne McNally]

I don't know what the I'd say. What would I say?

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, my God, what would I say? I'd write a four in the weed boat dialogue. So I say your father. Now, one thing I never do again, I say your father. His response. And I guess he's saying, is this because. Is this his response is why I won't do his father again. Is that because he wiped his on the curtains after banging your mom?

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, okay, I get it. Because his dad was rude and. And was very. Did not use tissue for the semen and.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanne McNally]

Wiped it on your mom's curtains.

[Vogue Williams]

I guess instead I feel like, and.

[Joe]

His dad did you and your mom.

[Vogue Williams]

Your mom now, I hate to bring Pad into this. He did, but he started this.

[Joanne McNally]

Poor Pat. I honestly hope Pat doesn't listen to us. What were we talking about the other week about? Sexual charades or something like that. Something really weird again. And we dragged Pat into that too.

[Vogue Williams]

We just don't talk about the podcast. It's just better off. Whatever. It's just. We just don't mention it, you know, less said, soon as mended.

[Joanne McNally]

You know, I. I know that my mom's up. Up to something, though. I know she knows how to listen to podcasts, which. Which does worry me. But I'm hoping she doesn't have too much time on her hand to start listening to ours.

[Vogue Williams]

Joe just tried to explain my camera to me earlier and said, do you know the way your laptop can open and close? And I was like, yes, I. That much I do understand, Joseph Ashy. Well, thank you very much that I.

[Joe]

Was trying to explain. It didn't make sense to explain.

[Joanne McNally]

To me.

[Vogue Williams]

Your man explained that my laptop opens and closes and I was like, I get that.

[Joanne McNally]

I saw you. Do you know what I have to say as well? I have to throw myself under the bus. I saw you sitting with an Apple remote on your Insta Stories last night and I'm like, I'm surprised she knew how to connect.

[Vogue Williams]

Lauren set it off. Me.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, I absolutely. I saw you on your stories. I was like, that's unusual now. Yeah. How did she sort that out for a sec?

[Vogue Williams]

In a way, I'm a very modern woman, and then in other way, I am like an elderly man. It's very strange. Vogue. Do you have anything for the Culture Pocket?

[Joanne McNally]

The Culture Pocket. I just started reading Dolly Alderton's books and I'm obsessed. So I'm now. I'm now on Ghosts. And I love. I just love the way she writes. I just think she's so brilliant. And I've just read one about a breakup. I forget what it's called. Do you remember what that one's called?

[Vogue Williams]

Ghost. That is the one about the breakup.

[Joanne McNally]

Joanne. I haven't read it yet.

[Vogue Williams]

I thought you said you had that. You said you started. Sorry, spoiler alert.

[Joanne McNally]

Dolly. Old Dolly Alderton. Good material. Was the one I read that I absolutely. Like, I flew through it. I just loved it. So that's my Culture Pocket and Ghosts. I'm putting her up for two.

[Vogue Williams]

It's a male stand. It's about a male stand up, which when I first started reading, because I Loved all the Olson's books and have read them all also. Everything I Know About Love is one of my favorite books of all time. But when I started Good material, good material, bad material, I didn't realize it was about. It was written from a man's perspective. And I was like, oh, God. Immediately I was like, oh, Dolly, what have you done? But then I actually really enjoyed it.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's so good. I loved it.

[Vogue Williams]

Do you know the way I love a female whack job?

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

I love a female nutter and female nutters. And I think I have come almost to saturation point about female nut jobs because it's always the same. They always do the same thing. It's always the same pattern of behavior. Anyway, do either of you remember. Joe, I'm including you in this out of politeness because. But I know you won't know anything about it.

[Joe]

Go on, try me.

[Vogue Williams]

Do you remember there was a woman went viral on TikTok a while back for crying while cooking her own cupcakes. Baking around cupcakes, I guess you would say, because she was saying, this is what it's like being a single mom because you're. You. You have to bake something for your own kids to give you something on your birthday because they want to give you something. And I'm a single mom and this is how hard it is, et cetera, et cetera. Do you remember her?

[Joanne McNally]

Yes, I remember that. Yes.

[Vogue Williams]

And it went viral and everyone was like, oh, my God, your fella's a wanker, blah, blah, blah. Like it was. It was a real puller of the heartstrings.

[Joanne McNally]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Then one to skip a few. Her ex husband came back with receipts going, no, no, no, we have joint custody. And in fact, she doesn't even take them the days that she's supposed to take them. And then it turns out they're in this huge big war and she's an absolute whack job. And now there is a podcast about all the things she has done, all the things she has lied about. It's very. It's very Scamander vibes. But I will say it's not as good as some Scamander, I would say. But it's called Elizabeth, which is clever, of course, because she's a liar.

[Joanne McNally]

And is it him who. Who's created this?

[Vogue Williams]

No, it's. It's a production company just made it. He's actually not involved. But he's given them the, like the, The. The tap of approval, but he's not actually involved in it, but he has put all his information out in the Internet. All their legal courts.

[Joanne McNally]

Oh, God. You'd feel sorry to the kids, though.

[Vogue Williams]

Money. She's stolen.

[Joanne McNally]

All that jazz, Elizabeth.

[Vogue Williams]

It's called the Cupcakes that broke the Internet.

[Joanne McNally]

That really was. It was huge. Huge.

[Vogue Williams]

It was huge. And another thing that I was listening to and then. And then I'm done with. I'm done with no Job Women for a while. I think I'm going to move back to North Job Men just for inclusion, I guess. And balance. For balance. Do you remember the story of. There's a documentary called the Perfect Wife on Disney, which actually a follower put me onto. She listens to the podcast and she DM me. And it's about Sherry Papini, who was a wife of a man who went missing a couple of years ago. She was abducted, allegedly.

[Joanne McNally]

Okay.

[Vogue Williams]

Off the side of the street in America. And they kind of found whatever it was, her mobile on her iPad, Nano. I can't remember her headphones or something like that. And then what happened was this huge manhunt for whoever had taken her and to get her back. And they thought about her husband did it. Anyway, it's a true story. It's the documentary about that. And again, if you're into female whack jobs, it's quite a good watch. That's it. Now I'm back to Jeffrey Dahmer. I'm over it.

[Joanne McNally]

That's it. I've never watched that. I can't watch stuff like that. It makes me too sad. I just. I'm gonna go back and watch Care Bears or something. That's all I can take at night.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, well, you mix it in with a bit of, you know, a bit of light, a bit of curb your enthusiasm or something and then it's fine. But, but, but, yeah, women are. God, we really. We really. When we go, we go. We go hard, as men do, obviously. They go. They go harder, actually. But we go pretty hard ourselves. That's it for this week. We'll chat to you soon. And just remember, always like and subscribe because it does help us get our numbers up.

[Joanne McNally]

It's very honest of you. Where we.

[Vogue Williams]

It.