You've lowered me... Significantly...

Summary

Podcast Summary: My Therapist Ghosted Me

Episode: You’ve lowered me… Significantly…
Hosts: Vogue Williams & Joanne McNally
Date: July 10, 2026
Theme: Friendship, Celeb Drama, Parenting, and Internet Gossip—served with peak Irish wit.

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Vogue and Joanne bring their unfiltered humour and candid friendship to a sprawling catch-up covering everything from family birthday parties to wild internet spats, and a deep-dive into the hoopla around Taylor Swift’s ostentatious wedding. The episode balances playful muck-raking with thoughtful asides on online cruelty, the weirdness of fame, and how friends are the real therapists.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fashion, Foot Drama & Sardines

(00:32 – 02:20)

• Joanne arrives in a sardine-print top, lamenting a struggle to find anything to wear:
  • “Now I'm the girl with the sardines on my top.” – Joanne (00:55)
• Vogue jokes about dirty feet, referencing concerns about her WikiFeet rating.
• Light fashion chat segues to London’s heatwave and the emotional security of carrying a personal fan.

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2. Gigi’s Birthday Party Antics

(03:05 – 12:12)

• Joanne discusses turning up early for Vogue’s child’s party and being confused by the late 3pm start.
• The hosts re-live chaotic highlights:
  • Water fights, kids screaming, and adults “getting stuck into the champagne.”
  • Joanne gifts Gigi a child-sized fur coat, only for Theodore to claim it.
  • Hilarious moment when Joanne gives £20 (in fivers!) to Otto, who throws it away, then to Theodore, who distributes cash to other kids.
    • “Theodore is just over there giving out cash after stuffing his pockets.” – Joanne (08:56)
  • Reflections on being the “cool aunt” and the politics of children’s presents.
• Mini-rant about social media comments undercutting "super-mom" efforts—sound familiar for social media-savvy parents.

Memorable Quote:

• “I went up and said to you, 'ungrateful little swine.'” – Joanne (08:12)

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3. Ibiza Plans & Emergency Fitness

(13:02 – 15:30)

• Vogue’s upcoming trip to Ibiza to see Carl Cox, plans to out-party younger friends.
• Prompted by impending pool parties, Vogue reflects on neglecting her fitness regime (“I think I’ve done three steps collectively in two weeks.” – Vogue, 14:42), and embarks on an “emergency abs” mission.
• Light ribbing about milk alternatives and protein intake.

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4. Clashing with Celebrity Culture: The Lee & Katie Price Saga

(15:32 – 28:18)

• Recap of Vogue and Joanne’s recent, reluctant involvement in tabloid drama related to Katie Price and her husband Lee Andrews.
  • “Obviously it’s going to be discussed because we deal with hard hitting news stories and it’s right up our alley right now.” – Vogue (16:46)
• Joanne is repeatedly targeted on social media by Lee Andrews, who accuses her of “chasing clout.”
• In an inspired prank, Vogue arranges a Cameo video from Lee to Joanne, who’s both bemused and delighted.
  • “I paid for 24 hour express delivery. Cost me 70 quid!” – Vogue (21:12)
• They reflect (with mock humility) on being subject to celeb feuds:
  • “I've lowered you to the level.” – Vogue (19:24)
  • “Lowered me significantly.” – Joanne (19:26)
• Discussion of the hypocrisy and performative aspect of online drama.
  • “He could spoof professionally.” – Vogue (24:53)
• They message Lee to ask if he’ll reschedule his “public annihilation” from 10pm to 8pm for Joanne’s (faux) pregnancy, and Lee responds with a cryptic (but mostly friendly) DM:
  • “Congrats on the baby to both of you. There are a few other things coming your way, but nothing detrimental.” – Lee (36:09)

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5. Taylor Swift’s Madison Square Garden Wedding

(28:25 – 39:44)

• Deconstruction of Taylor Swift’s massive, controversial New York wedding.
  • “Why did she want to get married in New York…when she could have literally rented a full island?” – Joanne (28:35)
  • “Security… she donated 27 million to the city as a charity gift before the wedding.” – Vogue (29:24)
• Chat about guest list drama—Blake Lively not being invited; Lena Dunham making a risqué speech; and rumors about Jack Antonoff (“Jack What’s-His-Face”).
• “Taylor walked up the aisle to her own song, which I thought was actually quite sweet.” – Vogue (32:24)
• Reflection on media backlash and whether female mega-celebs can ever win:
  • “There’s something about her now, it’s like: nothing I do is ever right, I just don’t give a s*** anymore.” – Vogue (29:41)
  • “She’s a woman who just wades through it with her head held high.” – Joanne (29:44)
• Side note: Taylor’s wedding gown by Irish designer Jonathan Anderson; Adam Sandler officiated.

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6. Dealing with Online Criticism & Troll Fatigue

(39:44 – 44:09)

• Candid talk about how cruel social media comments affect real people.
  • “Do you think they just lose their way?...You lose sense of, like, what's right, what's appropriate?” – Vogue (41:45)
• Joanne recalls being body-shamed in tabloids for wearing a bikini in her forties (“Bikini after 40 is like cappuccino after 11,” 42:52).
• Wry banter on the pointlessness of clickbait and the need for self-respect.
  • “Do you think I was just dragging my flaps along the floor? Like, piss off.” – Joanne (43:33)

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7. Wrapping Up: Not Taking It All Too Seriously

(44:28 – end)

• They agree that, ultimately, most of the drama is “all a bit of fun” (27:42), and resolve to send love and light—even to feuding celebs.
  • “Sending love and light your way, yeah.” – Joanne (44:40)

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Notable Quotes

• Joanne: “I’m just saying, I was running around with naked feet on the bare tiles and that’s why they are like that. Because I don’t want this to affect my WikiFeet and it will.” (01:45)
• Vogue: “Once you’re in, you’re in. Famous last words. No one ever goes back out.” (05:51)
• Joanne: “I asked Lee to say hi to Joanne, his biggest fan, and would he give her some business advice and that he hopes she’s having a great hot girl summer.” (21:51)
• Vogue: “Taylor walked up the aisle to her own song, which I thought was actually quite sweet.” (32:24)
• Joanne: “Do you think I was just dragging my flaps along the floor? Like, piss off.” (43:33)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Sardine Outfit & WikiFeet: 00:32 – 02:20
• Gigi’s Birthday Party & Kid Chaos: 03:05 – 12:12
• Ibiza Plans & Fitness: 13:02 – 15:30
• Lee Andrews & Katie Price Saga: 15:32 – 28:18
• Taylor Swift Wedding Deep-Dive: 28:25 – 39:44
• Media/Celebrity Criticism & Trolls: 39:44 – 44:09
• Outro/Conclusion: 44:28 – End

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Tone & Style

• Language: High-energy, irreverent, peppered with dry Irish wit.
• Atmosphere: Gossipy, supportive, and conspiratorial—like being invited to the funniest girls’ WhatsApp chat.
• Dynamic: Honest, chaotic, and affectionate. Always circling back to real issues beneath the banter.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

If you’re coming in cold, expect plenty of running jokes (feet, fashion misfires, celebrity feuds), an unusually honest lens on parenting and internet fame, and a refreshingly unserious take on life’s little dramas. Vogue and Joanne prove once again that whatever scandals or snarky headlines life throws at them, friends (and humour) really are the best therapy.

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Transcript

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[Vogue Williams]

This is a global production. The headline was Vogue Williams rips into Kay Price's new husband.

[Joanna]

This is a PR nightmare for me to descend. Oh, he's seen it. He's seen it. Are you typing? I'm aware that I'm a walking fad.

[Vogue Williams]

What's a. What's a walking fad?

[Joanna]

I had, I had a not good time getting dressed today cuz nothing fit me and I put on this dress that was then a top and I was like, oh, couldn't find something to wear. And now I'm the girl with the sardines on my top.

[Vogue Williams]

You look lovely.

[Joanna]

Everybody has sardines on their top.

[Vogue Williams]

I actually, actually noticed that sardines are having a moment.

[Joanna]

Sardines. They're everywhere. They're everywhere.

[Vogue Williams]

They are like. They're, they're like lobsters and protein.

[Joanna]

I don't want.

[Vogue Williams]

Sorry by the way. I'm just obviously I don't want to do a Benny Blanca on it are my feet.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

I was just gonna say. That was what I meant to say.

[Joanna]

Oh, they're Benny Blanco today.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh my God.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Of course.

[Joanna]

Do you want to put my shoes on? My shoes are cleaner than you know.

[Vogue Williams]

I just want to say, just want to say because my.

[Joanna]

Now I did just wash the shoes.

[Vogue Williams]

The top. This tiles in the kitchen are black. Like they're black tiles and I.

[Joanna]

Everyone, everyone has dirty feet in this room.

[Vogue Williams]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're not unclean. I can't have another level of block against me. I'm just saying I was running around this morning on the. With naked feet on the bear tiles and that's why they're, they're, that's why they are like that. Because I don't want this to affect my wiki feet and it will.

[Joanna]

I think it's might be considered sexy to have dirty feet.

[Vogue Williams]

I don't love this color on me.

[Joanna]

What, the green?

[Vogue Williams]

No, the pink shoes.

[Joanna]

The green.

[Vogue Williams]

Chaotic. Do you like it?

[Joanna]

Well, don't slack my.

[Vogue Williams]

This is vintage.

[Joanna]

Listen, Harley Davidson, I'm wearing sardines. I'm not one to talk about anyone's fashion.

[Vogue Williams]

Speaking of fashion, can we talk about tied up in my emotional support fan, which I obviously have to have on my face a lot of times because El Nino's back, the heat wave is back and it's boiling again in London.

[Joanna]

Did you order an oat flat white? An oat? An oat one, yeah. Is that for you? Did you order three oats? Yeah. That's okay.

[Vogue Williams]

They're not. It's. It's almond milk. I'm sorry?

[Joanna]

Almond milk? Why?

[Vogue Williams]

I don't know why I did that.

[Joanna]

Well, I'm enjoying it. It's what I really wanted.

[Vogue Williams]

So I'm happy on the edge of dairy anyway, whatever. About that. Gigi's birthday party. I would like to. Firstly.

[Joanna]

Yeah, where will we start?

[Vogue Williams]

Firstly, I'll tell you exactly where I'll start. 3pm is a very late start for a child's party. I had an Uber on the way at one I woke up and immediately I was like, Judy's birthday party. I was like, I can't, I, I'm. I'm trying to be more present and be and turn up to things.

[Joanna]

I was so happy you came. I was, I thought it was very nice.

[Vogue Williams]

Thank you. Well, I was ready to go at one. I was all packed and like the card written and everything. I must give you the card. Actually I never gave it to her in the end upstairs and I was on to Vogue and I went, where are you? And she, she said, oh, I'm not there yet. I was like, why the am I going if you're not there? And she went, it doesn't start till three. And I was like, what, what were you doing three till five?

[Joanna]

What were you doing from one till three? Yeah, cuz then they have like you work it around food. So like if I had done it earlier and T and Otto had football earlier, so I thought three to five it won't be as hot and then they can have their dinner at five and then they go home.

[Vogue Williams]

This is like an all nighter for the kids.

[Joanna]

I know to five. Yeah. But then they go home and go to bed.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, with all that sugar in their system.

[Joanna]

How good was that cake?

[Vogue Williams]

I don't think actually ate any of the cake in it.

[Joanna]

Oh my. I was like, Bruce bog trotter.

[Vogue Williams]

Me and Spencer's father were getting stuck into the champagne and the wine. I mean, if every child's party is like that, I will attend one, when's the next one?

[Joanna]

I mean the champagne wasn't for everybody because it was mainly well because I was like I'll have two glasses of champagne and. And then it was just gone. So I had half a glass champagne because David was just being the hostess with the mostest.

[Vogue Williams]

And he was, he was free flown it.

[Joanna]

And he went up to my friend. Do you remember my friend Rachel? He went up to my friend Rachel and he's like, is this for you? With a big pint of champagne with ice in it? And she goes, oh, I don't know. Put it in my hand and let's see what happens.

[Vogue Williams]

It was great crack. It was a lovely vibe. I like. I, I really thought I would be more. I would be more bored and I wasn't either. I really.

[Joanna]

Isn't it nice? Because there's nice people there. The parents like she's class. I have a good class. Parents already sound. And then like you've got Archie's camp which they love.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah. I don't know what any of that means but. And then.

[Joanna]

Were you there for the water fight?

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, I do remember being wet at one point.

[Joanna]

Yeah, there was many tears. I have to say.

[Vogue Williams]

There was a lot of screaming and crying. It was just me and Spencer.

[Joanna]

The water fight? Yes. When he was like, John's coming back to the house. I'm like, okay, spending is she? I was like, once she's gone, she's gone. Yeah, you'll have to go to her house.

[Vogue Williams]

I'll be back. You mark my words. You'll see me again tonight.

[Joanna]

I'm just gonna go home for a bit and then I'm gonna come back. And I'm like, yeah, okay, sure John, I'll see you at half six.

[Vogue Williams]

Famous last words. No one ever goes back out. Once you're in, you're in. I gave Gigi. So what happened was I bought this cool little fur coat for. Actually bought it for traders. And then when it arrived I realized, oh, it's for a child.

[Joanna]

Someone was like, except for Ikea from ikea.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, cuz the colors. Yeah, I know. It's kind of. It's fluorescent yellow and fluorescent blue with a silver underlining. And I was like, gigi, love that. And you're like, she will love that. And I was, I was, I was so thrilled at myself that I was going to have something to give her that I, I genuinely thought she'd respect me for.

[Joanna]

She did like the coat. Theodore preferred it. And now it's in my wardrobe. I was going to send you a picture.

[Vogue Williams]

It's too small for you as well. I made a pick. I made A big. A big deal about bringing it and going down and giving it to her and all because I am always trying to win her love and affection. And she took it out and we did get. There was a good reaction.

[Joanna]

There was a great reaction. And she put it on back. Of tears. It had come off. Yes, of tears, Joe. So you know how hard that is.

[Vogue Williams]

I was turning the tear tides, And I obviously didn't wrap it because I don't. I don't engage in that kind of.

[Joanna]

It was like a lovely bag out of it as well. Yeah, that's a black bag.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, yeah, that's a nice toast. And she smiles. And I was like, oh. And then she put it on. Then she went, it's too big.

[Joanna]

Well, Theodore loved it. He was wearing it.

[Vogue Williams]

Then I just necked a pint of wine. I was like, for sake?

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

And then Theodore, I had no idea he was the drag baby.

[Joanna]

Sorry. Joanne arrived at the party, and I remember the people of my dad's friends who used to give me money, because money is what you want. Even now, when, like, money isn't widely used, they don't know what it is as much they love it. Joanne stuffed Theodore's pocket.

[Vogue Williams]

Well, I don't. I'll tell you what actually happened. I went down with the fur jacket for Gigi. 40. No, £20 for Otto in fivers.

[Joanna]

So he's gonna think, £20 for Otto.

[Vogue Williams]

Well, I said to him, that's all

[Joanna]

the money he'd have in the world.

[Vogue Williams]

I said to folk, does auto take cash? And she was like. He said, like, he's three or whatever. Four. What is he?

[Joanna]

He's four.

[Vogue Williams]

Four. And I went, that's not. That wasn't my question.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Means he definitely doesn't.

[Vogue Williams]

Does he take cash?

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Like, checks he will not recognize?

[Vogue Williams]

Does he take cash? And so I went anywhere? And I gave him the 20 and fivers, and he literally just threw it on the ground. And so I went, right, well, you're not having that. So I went up and said to you, I'm grateful in the swine. Then I went over and. And I was only going to. Took it back. And then I went over, I said, you're not your father's son. You've no concept of money. I went over, and then I gave Peter all of it then. So I gave him £40 in fivers.

[Joanna]

A what? A wad in his pocket. I was like. And he kept stumbling and pulling it out, looking at it. And I was like, what?

[Vogue Williams]

And he ran away. And then one of the parents Came over and she's like, did you give Theodore money? I said, yeah, how you doing that? She goes, because he's handing it out to everyone. I went, theodore, take it back. He was giving other kids fibers.

[Joanna]

Rachel. Rachel came over and was like, do you know. Do you know? Theodore is just over there giving it cash after stuffing his pockets.

[Grainger Announcer 2]

And then.

[Joanna]

But Theodore loves cash. So he has a little. He has a wallet. So then we got home and I put his wallet.

[Vogue Williams]

I saw.

[Joanna]

We got home and I put his shorts in the wash. And then he had an absolute melting because the cash was in the shore.

[Vogue Williams]

But English money is washable. Washable.

[Joanna]

Yeah, it's washable. Yeah. So then the money comes out. And then he went up and he got his wallet, and he was. Brought his wallet down to show me all the money he had. And someone gave him, like, this little credit card thing. And, like, Max and told him that there was a grant on it. There's nothing on it. And so he's right. And that's a grand. And that this is $40. And I'm like, that's not dollars. That's Joanne.

[Grainger Announcer 2]

Sorry.

[Vogue Williams]

That is so funny. Max gave him a fake credit card and told him there's a grind on it.

[Joanna]

And, like, so. And I'm like, you're not so thick.

[Vogue Williams]

It's great.

[Joanna]

And I'm like, you're not having that. He's like, I'll buy it myself. I've got a grand. I'm like, okay, I don't need you anymore.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, I'm an independent man.

[Joanna]

I'm like, when is this money ever being spent? The wallet is just getting bigger. My mom gave him €50 for. For his holidays in Spain. I said, mom, what do you. Do you think I give him money like that?

[Vogue Williams]

Well, it's funny because my nephews. My brother's too great for me because

[Joanna]

I get loads of cash tax free.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, don't say that.

[Joanna]

Thank you for dinner, Theodore.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Gift is okay.

[Vogue Williams]

A gift is fine. Yeah. She wrote it off. I was like, I've just leave the party. Like, I have to go now. I've had a full evening of writing things off ahead of me. I can't waste any more time here being disrespected.

[Joanna]

I do know I only said that yesterday. I was like, wasn't it nice that Joanne made the effort to come to the party?

[Vogue Williams]

I felt great about myself.

[Joanna]

I know I'd say. But I also really enjoyed serious brainy points at me. I was like, that was such a kind thing of her to do. Yeah, wasn't it?

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah. Well, it is also the way I can get you to drink in a field if it's. Cuz it was a children's party. I had no idea. So folks like we're in the park. I said grant went down like the parks, obviously. Do you know how many children's parties I tried to join? I had no idea that there was. I was rocking up there. They were everywhere.

[Joanna]

There was four. Cuz that's the only place that you can have the parties. If you have bought. What's it called?

[Vogue Williams]

You have to get like permission.

[Joanna]

I bought a. What's it called? Yeah, well, because I. I use this company. Someone's the chica. Someone said to me on my Instagram yesterday because I posted this thing because I always think it's nice to post about companies. I didn't. I paid for everything. But I think it's nice when they do a really good job. And this woman was like, oh, there I was. There I was thinking you were super mom and it organized all yourself. I was like excuse me, I did organize it all myself. Sorry, I'm not like a picnic company. I didn't set up the picnic and I'm not a children's entertainer. Who booked them?

[Vogue Williams]

Me. Yeah, exactly.

[Joanna]

There's a lot of organization.

[Vogue Williams]

Come on, you can easily get someone to organize. Like as in. I. Yeah. I thought Jesus, if I had a child I don't think I'd even see kids.

[Joanna]

There was a lot of organizing and I was down. I was going. When we were going to Grand Prix and spending the day before the party, I was like, what's the theme of Gigi's party? Spinny. And he was like, what you mean? I was like, well, what's the theme?

[Vogue Williams]

He's like, who's Gigi?

[Grainger Announcer]

What's her.

[Joanna]

What's her cake? And he was like darling, don't be stupid. There is no theme. And I was like there is a theme and there is a cake. And then I was like, I want. What did she get her for her birthday? I want to take her out on her own and get her something. And I was like no, no. What should we get her for the day of the birthday?

[Vogue Williams]

Classic. Dad.

[Joanna]

Not.

[Vogue Williams]

And I clue. Yeah, that's a. I think that's a kind of a classic.

[Joanna]

So she needs to redirect her insult to spent now. I don't want him to get involved. I have to be honest because I like organizing parties.

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[Vogue Williams]

By the way, Sorry, speaking of parties, I'm going to Ibiza.

[Joanna]

When are you going?

[Vogue Williams]

I don't know.

[Joanna]

Don't you dare go and see Carl Cox.

[Vogue Williams]

I'm gonna see Carl Cox. Don't you dare.

[Joanna]

Okay, fine.

[Vogue Williams]

And I hope it's already been arranged.

[Joanna]

Oh, great, yeah, it's gonna cause a rift. No, no, she did invite me out with Carl Cox.

[Vogue Williams]

I mean, look, I don't have, I don't have an access point. I don't have free access to Car Cox.

[Joanna]

No, we don't have a mutual friend,

[Vogue Williams]

the podcast. And she's like, if you're coming to Ibiza, she's like, come meet us. And I was like, uhoh, I'll die.

[Joanna]

I'll die. Uhoh. Be booked. What are you saying?

[Vogue Williams]

Book the flights. We don't have accommodation yet. That's for today.

[Joanna]

Okay.

[Vogue Williams]

I'm actually scared.

[Joanna]

I'd be scared now. I have to say.

[Vogue Williams]

They're, they're, they're, they're. I'm going with two young guns. Because women my own age, John, if anyone actually, what I'm talking. There's loads of women my age.

[Joanna]

Anyone can trample all over them and show how, show them how it's done. It's John McNally.

[Vogue Williams]

I deal with the biological age of a 20 year old woman.

[Joanna]

So you are gonna absolutely win that war. I'm so jealous. I'd actually love to be doing that.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, they'll be asleep and I'll still be in DC 10 on my own.

[Joanna]

Oh my God. We have to figure out who you're gonna go and see. I know.

[Vogue Williams]

I need to plan it all.

[Joanna]

You do need to go and see a DJ a day, definitely.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, no, I will, I will. And also it's inspired me to start my fitness journey again because I have been thoroughly enjoying myself, eating and drinking my way around town for the last two weeks. And I don't regret a single bite or a single mouthful of liquid. But it is time. I have, I think I've done three steps collectively in two weeks. I need to get my together. I need, I Need emergency abs for emergency.

[Joanna]

I went to be the August. Okay.

[Vogue Williams]

So I have two weeks. Literally two weeks to the day.

[Joanna]

But that's not in August. It's two weeks and it's July. In two weeks.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, I'm going in July.

[Joanna]

Oh, great. Okay. That suits me better actually.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, going in July. So I am about to, I, I, and it's good because I've been kind of, I've, I've kind of abandoned my fitness completely and I'm pretty sure I've broken my arm and I think now I'm worried about my bone density. Anyway, I'm going back to the gym.

[Joanna]

There's a lot of things to be concerned about there. Yeah, you're grand. Well, stop ordering almond milk and then you'll be able to be fine.

[Vogue Williams]

I eat like 12 eggs a day.

[Joanna]

Sorry. Yeah, but that's protein. That's not milk. That's not calcium.

[Vogue Williams]

No, it's protein.

[Joanna]

It's calcium you're looking for. Yeah, no, it's calcium.

[Vogue Williams]

Now let's crack on.

[Joanna]

I mean, when I first said I don't want to talk about it, I thought I'd be left out of it. But instead I have been dragged into a deeper than anyone.

[Vogue Williams]

I mean even I will say you've been thrown under a megabus for anyone who's not aware.

[Joanna]

Oh, everyone's aware because everyone's saying it to me.

[Vogue Williams]

Obviously. There's been some chat recently on the podcast about Katie Price's husband, allegedly Lee Andrews. Allegedly.

[Joanna]

Look, I won't say anything here and he's still going to go for me.

[Vogue Williams]

So as listeners who were listening, have been listening lately, we, I've been obviously chatting about him on the podcast because they are having a very public farcical gun like speedo wedding and they're all like, they're obviously monetizing it all. He was taken hostage. Whatever. Whatever that mean. I do. God only knows.

[Joanna]

So he was taken hostage and he was in a Dubai prison. Yeah, there's all this.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

And then he adopted her kids and then he was going to be in

[Vogue Williams]

a standard and Katie Price has been using it as an opportunity to sell her CBD gummies and stopped looking for him after five days. And as I said before, I've looked for vapes longer. She was like, I need to move up. Anyway, obviously it's going to be discussed because we deal with hard hitting news stories and it's right up our alley right now.

[Joanna]

It's really up your alley. It's not, it's actually not my alley at All I. I can't. I have.

[Vogue Williams]

I have a cheaper alley.

[Joanna]

Yeah. But like, you. You have more admiration for him, I think, than I do.

[Vogue Williams]

Like, I would say we call it admiration.

[Joanna]

I'd say there's a touch of admiration from you.

[Vogue Williams]

There is a curiosity.

[Joanna]

For me, it's more like I just don't want to get involved because it feels so icky. Yeah. And I'm like. I feel like I'm dirty when I talk about it. Yeah. I don't want to be sullens by this.

[Vogue Williams]

I know. So anyway, we were chatting about it. Vogue was obviously very reluctant to chat about it. She was like, on four occasions.

[Joanna]

We did chat about it.

[Vogue Williams]

Yes. And then, anyway, the paper picked up. It's like one line.

[Joanna]

No, no, they. They clipped up all of the times that we spoke about them and put it all together as one.

[Vogue Williams]

And the head Williams rips into K. Price's new husband.

[Joanna]

No mention of Joanne, nothing.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

While speaking to this other woman.

[Vogue Williams]

Well, you know, it was so funny. So there. There's a part. There's a. There's an Instagram account I think she's called Counselor.

[Joanna]

She's so funny.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, she's gas. And she's been kind of slagging awfully and, you know, doing content about it. So she was saying that Vogue, this article about Vogue. I joined Vogue speaking to. And she pointed to me, you know, the way they point to things in these tik tok floating head videos. And she goes, this lady, I think she got me a. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This lady.

[Joanna]

And what's her name? What's her name, Counselor?

[Vogue Williams]

State Queen.

[Joanna]

Councelor. State Queen. And she is. She's hilarious. But I. I mailed her and I was like, this is gold. And then she wrote back and she was like, I never even heard. Heard of you two, like, just being like. She's saying she's really funny. And then she was like. And then your friend Joanna heard. She's a comedian.

[Vogue Williams]

She was. She was full of apologies. And I was like, it doesn't matter. Don't. I don't mind at all. You can call me what you want. But anyway, so anyway, the whole thing, whatever. And then I. Then Lee came out.

[Joanna]

Lee came out and told me that I was. He came out and he tagged me everything and said that I was close. Chasing after his name and his 150 million followers.

[Vogue Williams]

Organic. He's got a huge organic reach.

[Joanna]

Again, why that.

[Vogue Williams]

The relevance of that is not. I'm not sure.

[Joanna]

I know, but he is just pointing out exactly what I mean about him. You don't have 150 million organic anything.

[Vogue Williams]

He was like a. I didn't even know who she was, Lee. Sorry. Ding, ding. No one had a clue who you were until literally seven minutes ago.

[Joanna]

And can I say.

[Vogue Williams]

And you're not exactly our target audience, Lee.

[Joanna]

I was happy when he didn't know who I was. Now I feel like, I'm sorry, I've been now that. But the problem is now I'm like, this is the PR nightmare for me.

[Vogue Williams]

I've lowered you to the level.

[Joanna]

Lowered me significantly.

[Vogue Williams]

What I think is absolutely hysterical. And I say that like the man. So the, the absolute hypocrisy of a man who lives to chase cloud. He literally. He set up a cameo two weeks after marrying Katie Price. I've never seen cloud chasing like it, it's, it's, it's podium level cloud chasing.

[Joanna]

You put out this amazing open letter defending my honor, which is absolutely brilliant. Slagging him off even more. And then he comes out last night, tags me again because I can see it when it comes up, tags me again, saying he's going to absolutely go in on certain people. And I'm like, what has he posted? Go and check. And she's like, no, he hasn't tagged me. I'm like, he just blocked me completely.

[Vogue Williams]

Just blocked me. Because he just blocked me and pretended that didn't happen.

[Joanna]

I'm getting it in the neck again tonight at 10:00pm UK time.

[Vogue Williams]

UK time. I mean, we're all going to be sitting here with baited breath. Do you know what?

[Joanna]

Obviously like to tell. Give me the highlights tomorrow.

[Vogue Williams]

The toupee on him again last night.

[Joanna]

I did see. I think the toupee looks good. There you go.

[Vogue Williams]

Whatever's going on there, the toupee has

[Joanna]

gone to his head, that's for sure.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Whether he wears a toupee or not, we don't know that.

[Vogue Williams]

Well, I don't know how much minoxidil you'd have to be on to get growth like that.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

The above was humor.

[Joanna]

And you know what, Lee? That is where I can see the clues. That's some common ground between us because I third enjoy a hair extension.

[Vogue Williams]

Great head of hair.

[Joanna]

There we go.

[Vogue Williams]

Whose hair it is, I'm not sure, but it looks great on your head as it stands.

[Joanna]

But like, sorry, actually, I have a gift for you, so hang on. Yeah, you need to put these in.

[Vogue Williams]

Did you get a cameo from Leandre?

[Joanna]

Paid for 24 hour express delivery. Cost me 70 quid.

[Vogue Williams]

Are you serious?

[Joanna]

I have not Stopped laughing since yesterday.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, my God. Are we gonna play this on the podcast?

[Unidentified Male Friend]

They won't be able to hear it because he can sue us or they can sue us if we do. So we'll just have to go with your reaction.

[Vogue Williams]

Shut up.

[Joanna]

I asked Lee.

[Vogue Williams]

Hold on a sec. Okay, so there she is. It's from Haley. Yeah. God, he looks great.

[Joanna]

I thought so too.

[Vogue Williams]

Do we fancy Lee? Is this. Is this a whole pivot for us?

[Unidentified Male Friend]

It's impossible. He's a handsome man.

[Joanna]

I asked him to give.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, please. I'm trying to listen to Lee vocal

[Unidentified Male Friend]

commentate what was asked of him.

[Joanna]

I basically asked him to say hi to Joanne, his biggest fan, and would he give her some business advice and that he hopes she's having a great hot girl summer. And then at the end of it, he finished off by calling her Joanna.

[Vogue Williams]

He just did a bit of Freudian slip there. He was like, I'm still rewriting my adventure. And he goes, sorry, I mean, writing my adventure. He's like, I wish I could rewrite the last. Can I even say what he said?

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Hopefully we can give an idea of what was said.

[Joanna]

Did you like his business advice? I thought he would be the perfect character to give you some business.

[Vogue Williams]

Open as many doors as you can. Yeah.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

He also acknowledges it himself in the video that. That he is recording the cameo in a Dubai mall.

[Joanna]

Yeah, he is. So he's out and about. We know he is because delivery. And I did. I paid for express delivery.

[Vogue Williams]

He's called me a trailblazer. That's really sweet.

[Joanna]

Yeah. I think he seemed really nice in that.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Yeah. Misnames you at the end, of course.

[Joanna]

75 quid. That cost me cuz I got express delivery.

[Vogue Williams]

Are you happy he's sending me love.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

He is.

[Joanna]

Even at this point, he's. He's married. I'm not finished. I must have watched anime.

[Vogue Williams]

Open it there for me again.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Podcast is gonna have to finish now because Gian's gonna watch this for. Sorry.

[Grainger Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Okay.

[Joanna]

It does seem quite nice.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

John's just gonna take five actually.

[Joanna]

She'll be back in there.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Just give me five, guys.

[Grainger Announcer 2]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Just gonna cool off upstairs. It's gas, though, because if I was him.

[Joanna]

No, I don't know how we didn't put that together now. Because I asked yesterday. I got someone else to mail, obviously, and pay for it because I didn't want it coming from my account.

[Vogue Williams]

But then I was.

[Joanna]

I'm just surprised he doesn't actually. Like he hasn't put it together that it was Japan. Did you like his business advice?

[Vogue Williams]

This is what I mean about him. It's like, dude, we're only responding to what you're putting out there. And then he put up a post about his mental health and I said, I was like, oh, I don't know if I could do this reply video now. Because once someone brings up their mental health, you kind of all bets are off. Yeah, it's really annoying actually. It's really annoying when they play the mental health cards.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

I've never cited my mental health ever.

[Vogue Williams]

Thank God. Thank God.

[Joanna]

The mental health thing. But then at the end of it he was like, you can hear it all in my tell all interview. So it's like, hang on.

[Vogue Williams]

I know, I know. And I spoke to you about it and I spoke to Ross about it and I was like, can I? And you're both like, absolutely. Had he not set up a new media Instagram handle and to direct all the traffic? After talking about his mental health, I was like, yeah, he's just such a spoofer. He literally. He could spoof professionally.

[Joanna]

He's our spoofer of the year.

[Vogue Williams]

He is a giant spoofer.

[Joanna]

Are you, are you, what are you gonna do tonight? You're gonna have a couple of drinks and wait for 10 o'? Clock?

[Vogue Williams]

Well, so now he's gonna. He's got 60 enemies in the celeb land. And did you read out readout reader, what is it said that he's going to do tonight? Because I saw you in there.

[Joanna]

Where is it?

[Vogue Williams]

If you don't mind.

[Joanna]

Hang on. Okay, here's what he's gonna do tonight. I'll forward you that video. You're welcome.

[Vogue Williams]

Thank you, Joanna. Just rocking around the Dubai mall.

[Joanna]

I'm pulling you all apart tomorrow, 10pm UK time. I wonder if I mailed him and asked him to stop to 9 because I will be asleep at 10. Do you think he'd do that?

[Vogue Williams]

I think he'd do it.

[Joanna]

I think I'm gonna mail him right now. I'm gonna say, Lee, I'm really sorry, but I'm pregnant and I'm gonna be so sleep attendant.

[Vogue Williams]

Would you mind earlier, completely fed up

[Joanna]

with fake boxers, sneaky DJs. Okay, so I'm either. I could be one of any of these. I could be a sneaky dj, a famous for nothing presenter. I could be that.

[Vogue Williams]

I'd put my money on that one.

[Joanna]

A desperate ex. No, hang on, hang on. There's another bottle here. A. A desperate reality relevant goon. Could be me. Oh yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh, I Wouldn't. I wouldn't consider you reality making money

[Joanna]

on my name and slandering my relationship with lies and gossip. Nearly. I think you're the. Will I mail him? Will I mail him and say can you swap to 8 o'? Clock? I'm pregnant and I'll be wrecked.

[Vogue Williams]

I mean I would love you to, but I wouldn't. I mean, are we going to open? Are we, Are we going to open?

[Joanna]

He keeps mailing me. He's going to know now I've seen them. Where is he?

[Vogue Williams]

Lee, the fact, I will say the fact that I, I'm. I don't think someone messaged me today going, I'm. I hope you're gonna be annihilated at 10. I'm like, I really don't think I'm involved in this. The fact it keeps going in for you.

[Joanna]

Oh, there he is. Okay, so he tagged me. Would you mind? Okay. Lee, would you mind.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, Vogue here.

[Joanna]

You mind doing it at Ace?

[Vogue Williams]

Is there any chance you could swap the public annihilation to an earlier time like 8 as I'm pregnant and I'll be asleep by 10.

[Joanna]

Oh, he's active now.

[Vogue Williams]

Can he see us? Can he see us?

[Joanna]

Hey Lee, would you mind moving the pulling apart to 8pm? I'm pregnant so usually asleep by 10 and I don't miss my shout out.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah. Did you send.

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[Joanna]

It's only a bit of fun.

[Vogue Williams]

Well, that's what I think. I genuinely think it's a bit of crack and I'm like shorty. He knows that.

[Joanna]

Depends how far he goes on me tonight. Now.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, surely he knows that. Like are we not all in on the joke? Is this. Are we not all like.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

I hope so.

[Vogue Williams]

Getting a bit.

[Joanna]

Where's he going? Oh, there he is. Okay, he's gone to. He's gone to general. Okay, got it. Are we gonna be able to talk about anything else now while we. Yeah. His reply.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

Has he seen. No, it's not seen. I'll tell you when it's seen. Ah, act of four minutes ago. Damn it. Come On Lee come back online.

[Vogue Williams]

He's probably off doing a cameo now while we're waiting for our new boyfriendly to reply to us.

[Joanna]

We think Joanne fancies him. That's what has happened.

[Vogue Williams]

I. I would like to discuss Taylor's wedding. Taylor Swift sweating.

[Joanna]

Me too.

[Vogue Williams]

So let's go. Let's break it down. Let's break it down. I have a list here of stuff that I'd like to reference.

[Joanna]

Okay. My first thing about Taylor Swift's wedding. Right. Have you seen that house she has in Maine or where is it, Joe? That gorgeous, beautiful house, like, right on the coast. And she goes and stays there sometimes. And it's really fab. Yeah. Why did she want to get married in New York in a building that she had to turn into something nicer and spend $20 million when she could have literally rented a full island and had all her powers there.

[Vogue Williams]

Security. So I. So everyone's kicking off because she got married in Madison Square Garden, in Square Square Gardens in New York on Fourth of July. It's. It's a holiday weekend and it's a heat wave. And she shut down. Shut off, like loads of New York blah, blah. But she also donated. Do you know how much money she donated to the. To the city of New York as a charity gift before the wedding?

[Joanna]

How much?

[Vogue Williams]

27 million.

[Joanna]

Wow.

[Vogue Williams]

And they're still giving out about it.

[Joanna]

I like. I do like Ted. Not because the 27 million.

[Grainger Announcer]

I love her.

[Joanna]

I actually. I just really respect her.

[Vogue Williams]

So do I. You know what?

[Joanna]

She.

[Vogue Williams]

She screams to me. She's a woman. It's like, I just don't get. Nothing I do is ever right. I just don't give a anymore.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

I'm gonna do what I want to do. That's that. She's. There's something.

[Joanna]

But she's smart. She's intelligent. She's really good at what she does. And she's just like, you know what? I'm not actually gonna let all this pull me down. I'm just gonna wade through it with my head held high. Sorry. Can we talk about Blake Lively not being invited?

[Vogue Williams]

I know.

[Joanna]

Scarlett.

[Vogue Williams]

Now, everyone, obviously. Obviously. No. Unless you're living under a rock. You know that the whole Blake Lively. Justin ball down anything. And Taylor was dragged into it, and their messages were put on, were made public. And I don't know. I kind of lost track of that whole Blake Lively thing. Apparently a judge threw that all out.

[Joanna]

Well, a judge threw it out. Now she's taking him back to court to try and get some legal fees. Off him. It's like, babe, stop.

[Vogue Williams]

That was quite the spectacle and it kind of blew up in her face.

[Joanna]

But then there was no one saying like, no, stop, Blake.

[Vogue Williams]

Do you know what I think? And because I was on the. On the tick tock and Taylor had a thousand people at her wedding. So it's not even like Blake, like as in she. She was on Gray Norton. And I was like, you know what, I get that completely. She was like, she's so much money. A lot of weddings are like, who can. How many people can we afford to bring? And then people get cut and you know, there's a lot of politics.

[Joanna]

I have to say, having come from two weddings and my first wedding being full of people on my second wedding only have 20 people. I way preferred the smaller wedding. Yeah. It's so much nicer and more intimate.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah. I just think she's got the money. She was like, there's a thousand people coming. She's like, I'm not going to do that whole trying estimate how close we are, how many times we've matched because anyone I've met for any length of time is like, you know.

[Joanna]

And you're like, for instance, the Graham Norton one you meet, Graham Morton, you're like, oh my God. You're actually really saying, yeah, come to my wedding, I want to hang out with you and get pissed.

[Grainger Announcer]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Lena Dunham was there.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

She made some joke about America looking

[Joanna]

like an actual Barbie doll.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah. Stunning. Did you hear that she joke? Lena Donna mad and everyone's gone mad again. Lena just can't do right for doing wrong. She was, she was, she made a speech.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Although her ex was there. Jack Watts's face. He's now married to Margaret Quay.

[Joanna]

Margaret, wh's arrived. I don't know who. Jack Watts.

[Vogue Williams]

Jack Wat's face is Lena's ex who was basically the main event in the book Fame Sick that she just wrote and she talks about and he had an affair. He left her for Lords. Lord who? The singer.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Oh, the singer.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, allegedly.

[Joanna]

And now he's gone and now he's married to Margaret. Yeah, She's a great actor.

[Vogue Williams]

There was loads of. I. I saw some kind of excel doc of all the people that were there who've all like ridden and like, they're like the awkwardness of. Anyway, Lena made a joke in her

[Joanna]

speech not ignoring you. I'm just keeping an eye. I'm keeping an eye.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh God, I forgot about Lee already. Lena made a joke saying that American football is basically just gay porn and everyone's like, how dare she? It's like, it's a joke. Chill out.

[Joanna]

Everyone's annoyed about that.

[Vogue Williams]

Everyone's just annoying. Taylor walked up the aisle to her own song, which I thought was actually quite sweet. I know, I know which one.

[Joanna]

Which song? I don't know. I asked. I don't know.

[Vogue Williams]

What about marriage?

[Joanna]

I like that other one.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Pricey event. She's going to save there on royalties that cost her nothing.

[Vogue Williams]

And it was only at the instrumental. Wasn't her singing perfect? They did 20 minutes speech, that one. Romeo and Juliet.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Oh, love story.

[Vogue Williams]

There you go. Now, 20 minute speech, 20 minute vows, and they're all crying and all.

[Joanna]

Perfect. I can't stand. That's the. That's the thing about when people get married in a church.

[Vogue Williams]

I'm like, oh, no, 20 minutes is quite long.

[Joanna]

Sorry. Have you been to a Catholic wedding? They're an hour and a half in there talking. Absolutely.

[Vogue Williams]

No, no, no. Sorry. Their values. I meant their values were 20 minutes each.

[Grainger Announcer 2]

Each.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, I know.

[Joanna]

What? I know. I don't know if that's true.

[Vogue Williams]

Well, according to my.

[Joanna]

No, that couldn't be. What are you talking about?

[Vogue Williams]

For 20 minutes, they're talking about how much they love each other. And then apparently Travis was, like, bawling, crying and everything, and he was like, I'm going to protect you forever. And then she got a little wet behind the eyes.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

And then she sent a wedding cake to all the fans outside on the street. So when your man Jack Watts's face got married to Margaret Qualy, What's Jack Watts's face?

[Joanna]

Can I see his picture?

[Vogue Williams]

Check in there.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Jack, what's his face?

[Vogue Williams]

Jack Watts's face married to Margaret Quailey. Dina Dunham.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Jack.

[Vogue Williams]

And he'll come up straight away.

[Joanna]

Oh, he's seen it. He's seen it. I don't want to be alone when the response.

[Vogue Williams]

Do you know what, though? He's tagging her and.

[Joanna]

Are you typing?

[Vogue Williams]

I feel like I'm gonna jump out the window. I can't take this. I can't.

[Joanna]

You got me into this.

[Vogue Williams]

This was your idea.

[Joanna]

Ah, come on. It's funny.

[Vogue Williams]

It's funny. I think it's funny. I'm assuming he thinks it's funny.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Hopefully he thinks it's funny.

[Joanna]

Yeah, yeah. He might say something mean. I'll be like, I lead staff wrong.

[Vogue Williams]

That's what I mean. Like, come on, let's diffuse this. God, I miss texting, lads. It's so much fun.

[Joanna]

And if it doesn't work out with Katie I have a girl here who's right up your street.

[Vogue Williams]

No, don't say anything, don't say anything. Just keep it cool.

[Joanna]

I see you like, I see you.

[Vogue Williams]

Like Facebook before this episode. No, it'll be. It's complicated, remember that. It's, it's complicated, you see? Anyway, it's complicated.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Try and get us back on track. His name is Jack Antonoff.

[Vogue Williams]

So when Jack Antonoff got married to Margaret Quailey.

[Joanna]

I prefer Jack Wat's face. Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Jack Wat's face.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

And can I see a picture? Taylor went to the wedding and like thousands of people turned up outside the church trying to see Taylor Swift. Said it was a nightmare. So. Well, she was getting married. She was obviously like, I need somewhere with high security. And apparently Madison Square Garden's got like air airport level security. I kind of get it. And then she powered a lot of cash into it, made it look nice inside.

[Joanna]

Like, I, I, I don't, I just think, well, when you look at Julie's wedding, for instance, I, I love the vibe of her wedding. Would be more of my street, like 10 to be away. Yeah. I don't want to be in New York Conservatives. I think, like, it's like me going to, to have my wedding at Wembley, you know?

[Vogue Williams]

I know.

[Joanna]

I just think the roof closed.

[Vogue Williams]

I just think that's what she had to do. I think it doesn't matter.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Would be nice.

[Vogue Williams]

It doesn't matter. The three women will be nice.

[Joanna]

Very, very boxy Again, very boxy.

[Vogue Williams]

I feel like it doesn't matter what she does. She doesn't matter what she does. If she gets married privately. I see it addresses public.

[Joanna]

What? Yeah, show me. Oh my God. Taylor. Who else?

[Vogue Williams]

I'm looking at, I'm looking at it as an option myself now with them on.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

There's too much AI. There's too much.

[Grainger Announcer]

No.

[Vogue Williams]

Is it?

[Joanna]

Hold on. Did you see that? She invited Hugh Grant as well.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

Oh, he said, haha. I didn't schedule it, but I'll see what I can do. Congrats on the baby to both of you. Oh, we're mates again. There are a few other things coming your way, but nothing detrimental. More on the gist of the recent events. Take good care of a few things coming your way.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

He sent you a present.

[Vogue Williams]

Did you just congratulate you on your baby and then threaten you in the same message? This is a wild morning.

[Joanna]

I think detrimental. More in the gist of recent events. I'll be like, ah, it's all in the name of fondly, isn't it.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, it's all the name go crack. It's all in the name of laughing emojis. So it's all. So this diffuses massively. And ask him to unblock me. No, don't, don't, don't. The other looks after it.

[Joanna]

But you know what? I've changed my mind about him.

[Vogue Williams]

So do I. I'm mad about him.

[Joanna]

I actually think. No, but I think. I actually think he's in on this.

[Vogue Williams]

Ah, he definitely is.

[Joanna]

He's actually. But like, I actually was thinking that he was thinking. We all believe it, but I think he's taking the piss out of all of us.

[Vogue Williams]

But like, it's so weird because when I saw that story last night about like putting all these people on blast, I did think, like you've gone from talking about how your mental health, you need to take time away to now like kind of ramping it all up even more, you know, like, get ready.

[Joanna]

But I'm still getting it in the next night.

[Vogue Williams]

Get it in the next night.

[Joanna]

I might say to him, would you mind actually diverting your abuse towards Joanne, who is much more deserving?

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah, I wouldn't mind a little taggy wag. Has he read? Has he read?

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[Vogue Williams]

Okay. Oh, by the way, sorry, I'm an Exeter this Sunday and there's tickets left.

[Joanna]

I laughed out loud in the gym when I was listening back to the bonus and you were like, oh, Powder Puff Castle. Gorgeous. Just read it for the first time. It's not in Powderpuff Castle, it's in Pedro Castle or something.

[Vogue Williams]

Powder Castle.

[Joanna]

Where is it all? Because I literally just listened to that day and you're like, gorge.

[Vogue Williams]

It's one of these like open gigs. Do you know where?

[Joanna]

Oh, that will be gorgeous.

[Vogue Williams]

It is nice. Now they're harder gigs because the laughs just. There's no acoustic, so the laughs just kind of disappear into the sky. That's what I tell myself anyway.

[Joanna]

I know that I actually had a great day.

[Vogue Williams]

Having a ball.

[Joanna]

No, it was laughing. No, great gig.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Powder room. Castle. Powder. Ham.

[Vogue Williams]

Powder. Ham Castle. Gorgeous.

[Joanna]

I'd love to be going myself.

[Vogue Williams]

Stunning.

[Joanna]

More stuff about Taylor Swift. Oh, yeah. I can't believe she donated. Oh, she wore Christian Dior.

[Grainger Announcer 2]

Oh.

[Joanna]

Designed by Jonathan Anderson.

[Vogue Williams]

He's Irish.

[Joanna]

Irish, yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Do you know what someone was saying? They were like, taylor is. She's all. She's very. She, like. She's very productive.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Creatively. And they reckon the plan is. They're like, this isn't a private event. They reckon she's made a documentary about it. And that one, she's. Now she's going to take some time away, probably try and get pregnant, all that jazz. Unless. Unless she's pregnant already and then she'll air the documentary. So she kind of keeps her in the limelight as such, without her making music.

[Joanna]

Adam Sandler was the. He officiated. I know, I know. Isn't that so cool? We just get my friend Adam Sandler to officiate our wedding.

[Vogue Williams]

This woman called Megan in Daily Mail USA wrote this awful article about Taylor Swift's wedding. It was so mean. Even so, I actually went to the comments. Even the comments, the Daily Mail were like, this is really mean. It was calling it like a tacky farce and said, the next thing is, they're just heading straight for divorce.

[Joanna]

And I was like, mind your own business.

[Vogue Williams]

She's got so much coming her way. She also has billions and squillions of pounds. But I do see. I see she's going. I can see she's. She stepped into herself. I can see that in her. She was even talking about her albums and all. She was like, you make your album, then you blow it into the wind. If you enjoy it, great. Maybe. If you don't enjoy it now, maybe enjoy it in five years. And if you don't. I was doing it for myself anyway. She's just very.

[Joanna]

I think that it's a really good way to be impressive. You live in a world now where everybody just feels like it's their right to the Annihilator. Absolutely everything.

[Vogue Williams]

The Annihilator.

[Joanna]

And for somebody as famous as her, she just has to like. It would drive her crazy otherwise. She has to, like. But do you ever see the comments on all the Kardashians posts and stuff? I'm like, Jesus. And they're like people that you can trace back to their Instagram and they just care so little.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

That they're like, I'm just gonna say whatever I want. You're such a weirdo. Yeah. It's literally like, how low will you go? And I get. I Get. There's like articles written for clickbait and stuff like that. But remember that, like, about when would it have been? Probably four months ago. There was two journalists. I actually screen grabbed them and I was gonna mail them and be like, you are women and you're about somebody. Because it was so bad, they basically wrote articles being like, vogue, Williams is having a band Aid baby. And I was like, yeah. Oh. And I was so upset by it because as well, we'd had a miscarriage like the year before, so it would have been like a year long journey. I was like, you. Yeah, my child will read that. And I just think it's like, there's just. There's just no level that's low. Too low for them. I'm like, would your parents read that article that you're writing about somebody and. And think, why are you doing that?

[Vogue Williams]

Do you think they just lose their way? Do you think you just get into somewhere like that and you just lose your. You lose sense of, like, what's right, what's appropriate?

[Joanna]

Like, it's fine to like, slag someone off for certain things. Like, I don't care about that. I get clickbait. But when people go too far like that, like. And that was actually removed and I got an apology.

[Vogue Williams]

Well, that was a very sensitive subject for you because I was actually quite. I was surprised that you were so upset about it because you've got a pretty thick skin. But it was that you were there. You'd gone through it a lot of that.

[Joanna]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Between the miscarriage and the getting pregnant and all that jazz and you.

[Grainger Announcer]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

It's like, it's your baby. I just kind of. Because I don't have kids, I was like, I don't. I. I felt really sorry for you because I knew how upset you were. It was a really insensitive.

[Joanna]

Yeah. You can go like, super low or you can have, like, have fun with an article. Like, have, like. We can all have a laugh at stuff that's written about us, like. But the Daily man, the sun picked up something that I had said in a podcast. I don't know if it was on this one or my other one about me saying that I was kicked out of a supermarket.

[Grainger Announcer 2]

Member?

[Joanna]

About four years ago, I got kicked out of a supermarket because I had a bikini top on and trousers.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah.

[Joanna]

So you have to wear, like, full outfit. Not like, I wasn't just wandering into my bikini.

[Vogue Williams]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Joanna]

You want to see the comments? Bikini after 40 is like cappuccino after 11.

[Vogue Williams]

Cappuccino after 11. I'm sorry, what? What weirdo's going to bed at two o' clock in the day? Can you not have a cappuccino after 11?

[Joanna]

Mouth like a torn pocket.

[Vogue Williams]

Oh my God, that's amazing.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

I forgot this is our favorite thing to do.

[Joanna]

I love it. It's like the texture going like a torn pocket. Going shopping in a bikini. If it were my shop, I would march her out immediately. Hygiene lady. Yeah, Caroline. Do you think I was just dragging my flaps along the floor? Like, piss off.

[Vogue Williams]

Sorry, I completely. I didn't hear any of that. I'm just still focused on Mace. Like a torn pocket. It's absolutely phenomenal.

[Joanna]

I live in Spain and it's vile behavior walking around towns and swimwear. The police are now finding people. I look forward to it.

[Vogue Williams]

Walking around the streets with your armbands on. Do you know what I mean? People do go into shops in their bikinis. But I do understand the locals as well. Like, this is really annoying if you think about it. Like the other day I was like. I was walking around the. I was opening the door.

[Joanna]

Last one, people. Another glaring attention hand. Stop flaunting and start having some self respect.

[Vogue Williams]

Sew up that mouth.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Your pocket.

[Vogue Williams]

Sew up that pocket in your face. It's disgusting.

[Joanna]

Yuck. Have some self respect.

[Vogue Williams]

You remember? Do you remember your man? Every time I hear yok now. Do you remember the guy on Hinge in Cape Town? He was like, what age are you ever? Are you 40? And I went, yeah. Remember? He goes, yuck.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

Wow.

[Joanna]

Well, listeners, thank you so much for listening and I'm glad that we put all that stuff to bed.

[Unidentified Male Friend]

It's all done now.

[Joanna]

What a day to be alive and

[Vogue Williams]

Lee Sending, sending love Sending love, love

[Joanna]

and light your way yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Sending love and light I know I

[Joanna]

will see you at 10:00pm

[Vogue Williams]

Well, I. I'll be. I will keep an eye.

[Joanna]

Yeah, you keep flying.

[Grainger Announcer]

Yeah.

[Vogue Williams]

Through my Finster.

[Joanna]

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