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Atiya Walcott
Now just change clothes.
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Brooke Devard
Hello. Hello, this is Brooke Devard, and you're listening to the Naked Beauty Podcast. And today I am joined by a true style icon, someone who I have admired for a very long time, from the moment I saw a video come across my feed back in pandemic times. And I've just followed all of the incredible outfits since. Atiya Walcott is a fashion content creator, stylist and creative whose work sits at the intersection of fashion, art, and personal identity. She built her platform without a traditional roadmap. No fashion school pedigree, no PR firm, no industry cosign at the start. Just a point of view, a camera, and a desire to be, as she put it, extremely fashionable. What sets Atiya apart isn't just that she can put together a look. It's the intention and creativity that she puts into every single one of her videos. Her OOTDs feel like watching a short film, and she uses music and movement to tell a story about her outfits. Atiya's content doesn't just show you what to wear. It shows you why getting dressed is one of the most consequential creative decisions you make every single day. And I'm here interviewing you in a Lululemon workout outfit. So excuse me for. For not. For not, you know, answering the call to be extremely fashionable every single day. But I'm so excited. It's here to welcome you to Naked Beauty.
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Atiya Walcott
Thank you so much for having me. And thank you for that glowing introduction. It's always so fascinating to hear about yourself through the lens of another person.
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Brooke Devard
Well, I mean, you really do inspire us. And I remember your early videos. Please see the intro that you use for all of your videos today, but also share with the listeners what your intro used to be.
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Atiya Walcott
All right, my intro today is, my name is Atiya Walcott. I'm incredibly fashionable, and let's get dressed together. My old intro was, my name's Atiya Walcott. I'm not that fashionable, but I want to be in fashion. So I've decided to style an outfit every single day. And eventually one of my videos went viral and people started accusing me of rage baiting because at that point I was putting a lot of effort into the outfits. And they said, do you say this intro so that people tell you you're fashionable?
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Brooke Devard
Right. You were coming into this realization that, yeah, actually I am incredibly fashionable and kind of claiming that out loud and switching from I'm aspiring to, to I have arrived, definitely.
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Atiya Walcott
And, you know, I feel like I have that feeling of arriving constantly. So it's also sort of a manifestation. If I say I'm incredibly fashionable, that almost is what makes you incredibly fash. Not the best clothes, vintage designer or whatever.
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Brooke Devard
Yes. Well, I feel like the timing of this conversation couldn't be better because there is so much discourse right now about what it means to have personal style. We saw everyone kind of imitating Carolyn Bissette Kennedy as they watched Love Story and, like, the same black turtleneck and. And plain jeans. We're seeing people for Coachella hire stylists just to go to Coachella and be on the festival grounds. I'm like, is it really that deep? Do you need a stylist to go to Coachella? But maybe some people do. People take an image from Pinterest and just recreate it them top to bottom. I think that people have this hunger to. To look interesting and do something unique with their outfit, but I think there's a lot of confusion about how to do it or where to start. So I'm excited to get into it with you and hear about your early inspiration. So I want to go back before TikTok, before I discovered your videos. Growing up, were you interested in what you wore? Like, were you. Did you always have this kind of awareness about fashion?
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Atiya Walcott
I would say absolutely not. Matter of fact, it wasn't until I was 17 years old that I kind of learned about this whole designer. I did not know you could buy a bag for more than, like, $200. Whatever. They sold at Target and TJ Maxx, which is exclusively where I was allowed to sort of shop growing up. That's all I knew. I went on a trip to Italy, and there were these girls from New York City. They were mentioning things like Balenciaga, Intermix, and all of these words, terms, brands, stores that I had never heard of. So that trip when I was 17 and then Instagram at that time, growing and building was actually my real first into fashion.
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Brooke Devard
Okay, and where did you grow up?
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Atiya Walcott
So I grew up in New Jersey, and I lived for the most of my time in New Jersey at the end of a cul de sac. It was a very sheltered upbringing. I sort of. I went to church every Sunday, and my passion was film, so I watched a lot of movies. I watched a lot of old movies, and I definitely now see the influence of those old movies on my fashion sense today.
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Brooke Devard
Wait, which old movies? Because I. I love. I love a classic film. What were your. What were your insp.
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Atiya Walcott
Okay, well, Pride and Prejudice I loved. That's not a classic film, but a period Piece.
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Brooke Devard
Yes.
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Atiya Walcott
There's a movie called how to Steal a Million featuring Audrey Hepburn. There's a credit at the end of the movie, and it says all of Ms. Hepburn's gowns by, like, I don't know who designed them. I should know, but it was something like Yves Saint Laurent. But it was one designer, and they made all of these gorgeous gowns in the movies. And that was kind of common in the era. You'll see in a lot of, like, Audrey Hepburn's movies, for example, they'll say she was dressed exclusively by, you know, Givenchy.
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Brooke Devard
Yeah. Yes, yes. And. And, you know, also in watching, like, classic films, I learned about Edith Head, who is a costume designer. She did Roman Holiday. She did a lot of Audrey's early movies. She's like one of these, like, legends. She's like, you know how we all know the name Ruth Carter today as a costume designer? Edith Head was, like, very much that girl and was doing costume for all of the, like, incredible movies in the 1950s.
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Atiya Walcott
And she inspired that character in the Incredibles, correct?
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Brooke Devard
Yes, she did. But Edith Head also has a book that I want to recommend to listeners. It's called how to Dress for Success. It has a purple cover. And this. I mean, this book, it's very dated. It's like Outfits for the Country Club. But it goes into detail about her dressing philosophy. And that's a book that I read, Gosh, back in college. So good.
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Atiya Walcott
I just wrote that down. I will be reading that book. I'm doing a lot of reading this year. Sometimes I feel like, when would ask, like, who Name your inspiration, name your movies. My mind totally went blank. You know how that happens?
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Brooke Devard
Of course. Always.
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Atiya Walcott
I also think that's one of my strengths. You mentioned that people go to Pinterest and they copy an outfit. I rarely have a sort of one for one reference or an exact poll. I feel I'm constantly consuming content, news, everything. And that informs how I want to feel, which informs how I dress. But, gosh, I need to be more well versed. Well and well read on fashion. Honestly, that's how I feel.
- [06:39]
Brooke Devard
No, I mean, here's the thing. I think that to have a truly distinct point of view about something, style, you have to engage with culture at large. It's like, you've got to be going to galleries, you've got to be seeing films, you've got to be reading books. It's not. I feel like the most fashionable people aren't just focused on fashion. Right. It's. It's all of these other Kind of threads that come together. Did you feel beautiful growing up on that cul de sac in New Jersey? Was beauty kind of something that you felt you felt close to?
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Atiya Walcott
Heck no.
- [07:09]
Brooke Devard
Oh, really?
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Atiya Walcott
Oh my gosh. Yeah. I think I struggled a lot with self image growing up. I went to PWIs, predominantly white institutions for all of my schooling. And I would say that being the only black girl or one of few black girls and a dark skinned black girl at that, with like the type 4C hair, sort of not like a loose curl pattern, I just felt like an other and a little bit of like an alien. And I think that I leaned heavily into my personality, into humor. I think that's the only thing that I don't show online. I have a lot of energy. I am, I talk a lot and then I think I'm hilarious. But, you know, that's up for everyone else to judge individually, but yeah. So in my 20s and 30s, I think that I've really taken on this pursuit of beauty. I think it's. I spend a lot of time at 31 years old today thinking about beauty. And honestly, I invest in my own beauty. I enjoy it now.
- [08:14]
Brooke Devard
And also you're so stunning. Just naturally, the skin glowing, the hair, your braids, which you do yourself, which is. That is just incredible that you do it. We're gonna, we're gonna get into the braids of it all. When did it click for you that. I mean, I'm sure you see your hundreds of comments under every video now saying, like, oh my gosh, you're so gorgeous. But when did you start to realize, oh, I actually have a beauty here that I wasn't able to see before?
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Atiya Walcott
That's a beautiful question. I think that only a few years ago recently, did I really begin to step into my own power and view myself as a beautiful woman. So I have a rhinoplasty, okay. And this is a journey that I was super open about on YouTube but that I don't love to talk about now because people are really hypercritical and because.
- [09:04]
Brooke Devard
Yeah, yeah, continue, continue. I have a thought.
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Atiya Walcott
Because people don't know, I think I used to tell people immediately all the time, they go, you're so pretty. I go, I have a nose job. I was not born like this. None of this is organic. Okay? That's a lie. You see, that's too much. Some of this is organic. A lot of it, it, most of it. I did that when I was 27, I think. So that was sort of when I started investing.
- [09:27]
Brooke Devard
So here's the thing I think, one, if ever there's going to be like a safe space to, to share something like this, it is a beauty podcast, like Naked Beauty, where it's like a, a longer form conversation where people are getting to know you. And I just got a Mickalene Thomas coffee table book. Do you know Mickalene Thomas, the incredible artist? You would know her work. She does these gorgeous collages of black women. And she talks about how as an artist, she's really interested in the idea that we women get to create ourselves. She's like, she basically says, she's like, whether that's like a bbl, a rhinoplasty, adding eyelash extensions. There is something to the art of creating the version of yourself that you want to see and using cosmetic surgery as like one of the tools in your toolbox to create this version of yourself. You know, I'm. Right now, I'm. I just bought a bunch of hair for my braids. I'm like, do I want a color 6? Do I want a color 4? Do I want a color 30? Right?
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Atiya Walcott
Mix them all.
- [10:18]
Brooke Devard
Do I want to mix them all? Right, there, there is something to creating the version of yourself that makes you feel your best. That, that is part of, like, the, I don't know, creative pursuit of making the version of yourself you want to be. So the fact that you knew that that was something you wanted to do, I would, I would assume that you did some research to make sure you were going to the right person and, and picking something that, you know, suited your face and suited your features. I think that that's something that's, like, empowering and definitely worth sharing.
- [10:45]
Atiya Walcott
Well, I mean, then we can definitely talk about it. And, you know, I think it's good to feel vulnerable. I think in a lot of the work that I do, I don't feel that vulnerable. It's kind of, it's very. I have a lot of control over what I'm presenting. But yeah, so I got the rhinoplasty. I think part of me wanted to get it myself. Part of me was not part of me, but I was dating a toxic guy and I think he, he made a comment or two, and while I do not regret the rhinoplasty candidly, I frickin love it. I really, really like it. It was difficult right after I did it because I think part of me really questioned if I did it for the right reasons or if I did it because of outside input. I had just started content creating at a few influencers that I liked Went to the surgeon I went to. I went to an Asian doctor. Actually, he is Korean. And I just thought what some of the Korean girls who got a rhinoplasty wanted done to their nose, I wanted something similar done.
- [11:43]
Brooke Devard
The Koreans are just 15 steps ahead. So I'm not. I'm not surprised.
- [11:49]
Atiya Walcott
And he did a great job. I really. I liked my experience. But another crazy experience or another interesting experience after my rhinoplasty was people who had a bad experience with my doctor coming to the Internet or come to my content. So I think all these years later, I just sort of don't talk about it anymore. But I always have this guilt when people say, you're so beautiful. I'm like, because someone paid for this.
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Brooke Devard
Well, listen, your beauty cannot be reduced to, like, a single feature. Right? It's not like, oh, you're so beautiful because of your nose. So 1. I think you can take the compliment and you to divulge everything. And I also hear you on. It's so hard to give recommendations online. And like, sure, okay, this is the doctor I went to, and this is everything I got done. Because to your point, if someone does have a bad experience, then you kind of feel maybe partially responsible for it. But I appreciate the transparency. And it sounds like although this toxic situation may have been a factor, in the end, it was something that you did for yourself and you feel good about the choice that you made 100%.
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Atiya Walcott
And well before I even got the surgery, that toxic situation was kicked far to the curb. And I also have a wonderful mother, a wonderful mother who supported my decision but never would think I needed something like that. I grew up with the kind of mother who told me every single time before I left the house that you do not need any makeup and that I'm so beautiful just the way I am. So I have to credit at her for doing that.
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Brooke Devard
Yes. No. And. And again, I. I appreciate the transparency. I think back to people used to, like, not even say if they had hair extensions in. That was like a. Back in the day, people would just be like, this is all me. It's like, okay, let's just be. And now. And now people come online like, okay, I'm gluing my wig cap on. So more transparency is what we need. And I think it's so important that we don't, like, feel shame over these specific choices that we've made. So thank you for sharing. Thank you for sharing. You went to Wesleyan for film.
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Atiya Walcott
I went to Wesleyan.
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Brooke Devard
And then you got your MFA from usc. So she's she's very studied. She's very studied. She knows a lot about film and that shows up in your content. But you also have such a specific, like, look and feel. I'm thinking about the stuff that you do on the treadmill. I'm thinking about the lip syncing videos and the dancing and just the way that you frame all of your shots. And your, your style's also evolved. Right. How did you kind of figure out what your nich would be like, what your visual niche would be?
- [14:18]
Atiya Walcott
Oh, wow. It definitely evolved over time. My visual niche was initially just about good lighting. I was like, I need great lighting. I need great lighting. I need great lighting. My husband and I lived in Los Angeles and we ended up moving to the dingiest, darkest apartment of all time. And I would film my fashion videos from that apartment and people would comment, are you in prison? Are you? Do you live in jail? Are you Blink twice if you need help. And I would just be like, okay, like, we can't live like this. So I went online and I found this beautiful condo in Chicago and my family lives here in Chicago and I knew we could create content there. So we moved to this wonderful studio location. So that was an intentional choice. Lime washing it green. That was also an intentional choice. I knew before we moved that I was going to do that.
- [15:09]
Brooke Devard
I do want to stop here because what you're saying is for people listening that aren't content creators is a pretty huge mindset shift. You picked where you wanted to live based on the ability to film content. You were basically solving for a studio first and then you're like, and then I can sleep there. But the content creation was the motivating factor in even choosing where you were going to live.
- [15:34]
Atiya Walcott
That sounds so intense when I hear it reflected back. We were dedicated. Like you mentioned earlier, undergrad, I studied film and then I studied acting. So I kind of had training behind the camera and in front of the camera. My husband, who was self taught on the camera, has passionately been growing and learning as a cinematographer for the past 10 years, maybe more than the past decade. So both of our passions and blending that together really informed how the aesthetic looks. We shoot on his camera and we achieve my vision. Our big green wall that we shoot against now took us three months to complete. So that also helped the style of the content evolve. I think location really informs the aesthetic. Yeah.
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Brooke Devard
Yes. And I mean, it definitely stands out. Now we have to get into the outfits of it all. When you are building a look, are you starting with a feeling? Are you starting with the shape, a color. What's your entry point as you're building a look?
- [16:33]
Atiya Walcott
My entry point is feeling. My entry and my exit point. Point, Our feeling. How do I want to feel? The next element is function. Oh, my gosh, I just remembered, Brooke, one of your posts changed my whole, like, whole aesthetic and posting format. So one time, maybe on threads or somewhere, you made a comment like, where are these people? I don't know if you said influencers, but where are these people wearing these outfits?
- [16:59]
Brooke Devard
Yes.
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Atiya Walcott
And that was the first time that I decided to sort of start creating for people in the real world. In the real world, sort of wear, like, whatever.
- [17:09]
Brooke Devard
I want to talk about that for a moment because I think that as someone who gets dressed to, like, live life, which is, you know, 99 of people that are consuming fashion content, like, they're not fashion creators. It's like, you see these outfits and you're like, can you sit in that? Can you stand in that? Can you move in that? Can you walk in that? And people are like, oh, I tied the sweater around my hips and I added this tutu underneath. And it's like, this is not who it looks nice. But, like, this is not functional. This is not like an outfit that I can actually wear. Okay, so you started thinking about, like, how can I put together outfits that can be worn in the real world?
- [17:43]
Atiya Walcott
Exactly. Because when you made that post, I was like, wait, yeah, I would never wear this outfit in real life. Never, never, never. And I do love an editorial shoot. I love a look that's just meant to be photographed. I do have a passion for that. But I think what I love is to bridge function with. With a little bit of that editorial feeling, with a little bit of a unique touch.
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Brooke Devard
Love it. So you start with the feeling. And is it the feeling you want to evoke in others or the feeling that you want to feel in the outfit?
- [18:12]
Atiya Walcott
The feeling I want to feel. It's as simple as every outfit I put on. I want to feel cool in that outfit. And I know that that sounds very simple, and it is that simple. But that simple guiding principle creates super fun and interesting looks that are constantly changing. Because it's always about what is making me feel powerful, awesome, whatever. I'm gonna say cool, because that's what I say in my head. And what. What makes me feel cool is constantly changing. Because I'm constantly changing.
- [18:42]
Brooke Devard
Yes. You know, it's so interesting. I was. I was dragging, doing a self drag a little bit in the intro about me wearing this, like, Lululemon outfit that I'm wearing right now for our recording. But I have found that when I, like, zip it up to the top, it just feels, like, cooler than if it was like. Like unzip with a tank underneath. Even when I do my workout classes and I go on my walks, I've noticed that just layering on a tank top over my white T shirt just, like, feels a little bit cooler. I don't know why. I think it's just all the, like, 90s clueless references that I've taken in of the. The layered athletic wear.
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Atiya Walcott
And it's an intentional choice you made. You know, like, all of us can just pick a T shirt and put on jeans or sweatpants, but you layer two T shirts.
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Brooke Devard
Shirts.
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Atiya Walcott
And you know that, like.
- [19:22]
Brooke Devard
Yes, you know that.
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Atiya Walcott
Not everyone did that. Like, that is cool. It's intentional, right?
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Liv Albert
Yeah.
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Brooke Devard
Right. Okay, I'm gonna give you a scenario, and then you tell me how you address for that scenario. Okay. The scenario is you are speaking on a panel. You're going to be on stage in front of people. You're talking about your journey as a content creator and how you love fashion. Maybe you're speaking at Conde Nast. You're speaking with people that, like, know the fashion world. And it's in late spring. We're getting dressed for an event. Let's say it's like the first week of May. We're kind of in between seasons. How are you gonna get dressed for this event, this panel?
- [19:57]
Atiya Walcott
Well, I already know I'm wearing like an A line mid length skirt or dress because that is my go to silhouette. So I have a go to uniform because I just got this little Driesman note and top. I'm probably wearing this. I do love a new piece, but I don't shop very often.
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Brooke Devard
Okay.
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Atiya Walcott
The most important element to the look would be the fit. It doesn't matter what you're wearing. If it is ill fitting, it doesn't look that expensive or, you know, unintentional. That's what we'll say. And so if I am speaking at Conde Nast, I'm making sure that whatever I choose fits me very, very, very well.
- [20:39]
Brooke Devard
Okay, let's talk about fit, because this has been a huge revelation for me as someone who has gone between sizes. Looking good in clothes has to do with your weight or what size you are. It is all about how well tailored the item is to you. How it fits is the most important part of looking good in your clothing. And you don't realize this until you Bring things to tailors and you get. I went to H and M and got jeans that were like 50, I don't know, maybe $69, some somewhere around there. But then I got them tailored, and that extra 12 or 15 I spent on tailoring made them look better than jeans I have for 300, $400. Like tailoring, getting clothes tailored is so huge. And then also you mentioned this, a line silhouette, knowing the silhouettes that work for your body. So how did you know that like an a line silhouette for a skirt or a dress was the most flattering silhouette for your body?
- [21:30]
Atiya Walcott
So I started creating content during the pandemic. So it was also just meant no one could go outside. So I think that helped inform just these non wearable clothes. When I moved to Chicago, I started going to events with my mom, and when I was actually stepping out of the house, I'm naturally reaching for the things that make me feel my best. So when I would watch my own videos back, I would be like, wow, I can see I'm carrying myself with confidence in that outfit. And I realize I'm always choosing for that skirt or that skirt. So that's sort of how I realized watching my own content back and sort of observing my habits when getting dressed, what my personal uniform was or what silhouette.
- [22:11]
Brooke Devard
Are you familiar with the 75 hard style challenge from Mandy? Absolutely, yes. So one of the big things that she calls for you to do is to document your outfits each day. I feel like there are all these weird outside factors that happen when you're looking in the mirror. And there's a really beautiful distance that happens when you look at your outfits, just like, just a straight up picture. And then if you start to look at all of your outfits together, you start to see these different trends.
- [22:36]
Atiya Walcott
You saying that reminds me of my mom, who will send me, like, five photos of five different outfits, choosing one for an event. And there's always a photo where she's smiling. Like.
- [22:45]
Brooke Devard
Like, yes.
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Atiya Walcott
And then there's always these photos where she's like. And I'm always. I always tell her, well, look at, like, you feel your best in this one. You're smiling. And that just speaks to what you were just mentioning, which is looking at the photo back, you see so much more about how the outfit was reflecting how you felt in the outfit and everything.
- [23:07]
Brooke Devard
Yes. Okay. I'm gonna give you a harder scenario than a great onstage moment at Conde Nast. This, to me, is one of, like, the trickiest, trickiest things to put together. A cool outfit. You have A casual day on the weekend where you're doing a lot of things. Like you've got to, like, run from one errand to the next and then like, maybe meet someone and then grab lunch and then go to a museum and then maybe see your family. Like, what is the cool, casual weekend fit?
- [23:33]
Atiya Walcott
Where are you starting for spring, Summer? A cool, casual weekend fit is definitely starting with a comfortable pair of trousers. I love a good trouser because you're basically wearing sweatpants. It's like coating your legs in two blankets. But they always look so, so, so chic. I actually just got a pair of wonderful trousers from Veronica Beard and they're pistachio colored and I really, really, really like them.
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Brooke Devard
Okay, where, where are they hitting? Are they at the waist? Are they hitting on the hip?
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Atiya Walcott
They are a little bit of a higher rise.
- [24:06]
Brooke Devard
Okay.
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Atiya Walcott
Or a higher rise. And you want to be able to kind of tuck your T shirt or your tank top in there for a chic, elevated feeling. But by the end of the day, you want to just be able to have your T shirt on top of the trousers and not too tight. Not a fitted trouser. You want a loose, wide legged trouser.
- [24:26]
Brooke Devard
Okay. So that's like the small top, big pant combo.
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Atiya Walcott
I'm going small top, big pant running around for the day. Wide leg, trouser.
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Brooke Devard
Wide leg.
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Atiya Walcott
It has to be wide leg.
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Brooke Devard
What's on the feet? Feet?
- [24:41]
Atiya Walcott
That's a great question. I am a ballet flat girl, but I just got a pair of AS6 that I have not taken off because they feel so comfortable. Function is always informing what I wear. If it is uncomfortable, I will not wear it.
- [24:56]
Brooke Devard
Yes, yes. Okay, so a ballet flat or a great pair of sneakers. And then how, how are you keeping warm? Because I feel like you were such an expert at layering. But layering can sometimes look very chaotic. Like some people are doing layers and I'm like, it's the, the recipe. All these ingr that you're putting in, it's not, it's not cohesive. How do you do layering in a way that still feels so, like, good and cohesive?
- [25:17]
Atiya Walcott
It has to be intentional. So I wouldn't layer a long T shirt with like a shorter sweater on top. It's going to look unintentional. I think that is why tailoring makes your outfit look so good, because it's so intentional. And I don't know if that's an overused word, but. So when it comes to layering one, I'm trying on Every single layer. Layer before I leave the house. So I would never throw the sweater on for the first time. Like, I try on my outfit in every iteration that it could possibly have. Before I get to the function, I'm taking my jacket off. I'm taking my sweater off. I run really cold. So that's why I layer so much, because I hate to be cold. So again, I'm trying on just the sweater. The sweater tied around my waist, this sweater tied around diagonally. This sweater tied around just my neck. Like, before I leave the house, I know exactly how the outfit is going to be worn throughout the day.
- [26:14]
Brooke Devard
Okay. I love that. I was packing for a trip and my husband was like, what are you doing? And I was like, I'm trying on every outfit for, like, every day. And he was like, that's such a crazy way to pack. Just, like, puts. And I'm like, no. Like, this is the only way to pack. I have to put on the full outfit. So I know, do I need to bring this belt or not? And he's like, I don't think anyone packs that way. And I was like, I think everyone packs this way. Way.
- [26:36]
Atiya Walcott
Not only do I pack that way, I now make an itinerary and I have to write out each garment and take a photo so there's no mistake. Like, I traveled to Ghana with, like, a yellow legal pad of paper, handwritten, everything I was going to wear. Once you do that, you can't go back. You just can't go back. It's kind of scary. Like, what am I going to be wearing?
- [26:59]
Brooke Devard
It really does come down to exactly what you're saying, being intentional with every single piece. Piece. Now, you are someone that integrates colors so beautifully, but it seems like you don't. And this is just my observation of you as someone who consumes your content. It seems like you don't stick to hard rules when it comes to, like, what colors go together. And you're very, like, open to experimentation there. Do you have any, like, theories about color or how. How you integrate color into your look?
- [27:21]
Atiya Walcott
Well, there are some great content creators that I follow that are almost color content creators. There's an Australian girl, her name's Maxine Wild, and she used to take those color combination books, flip it to a random page, and style an outfit with those colors. So while I don't have any personal theories, I am inspired by people who play really well with color. And I'm just sort of experimenting intentionally mixing colors and matching colors. But I know I look decent in pastels. Just as like a dark skinned black girl. And like I look really great in a yellow, a pastel green, a pastel blue, any of those colors. And then I wear color as a reaction to kind of religion and the patriarchy and stuff like that.
- [28:14]
Brooke Devard
Okay, let's get into that. Atiya, say more.
- [28:18]
Atiya Walcott
So earlier we talked about how the main question I'm asking myself as I get dressed is do I feel cool in this outfit? So let's say something in politically happens where, you know, most of the people who hold or in Congress, they show up in a suit every day to work. So if I am sort of displeased with how my government is operating, something in my spirit wants to press up against a corporate aesthetic. And then sometimes I'm like, I need to make a buck, let me put on a suit. You know, on the other side, you know, there are times where, you know, when I was just starting this job that I was a little scared and I had to feed my family is how it felt. So I was wearing outfits that were a little more quiet luxury. And now I feel very free. You know, I. My mortgage is paid. I know that my money is going to my bills and all of that jazz. So I think that is inviting as well as the warm weather, wearing brighter colors.
- [29:26]
Brooke Devard
You're touching on something so interesting around quiet luxury and how that is linked to, I guess perceived financial freedom or a true ability to express yourself. Meaning I think a lot of people default to this very quiet luxury, beige, non offensive way of dressing when they are trying to fit into or assimilate in a space that maybe they feel like was not designed for them. Does that make sense? I don't know if I'm articulating it
- [29:55]
Atiya Walcott
and maybe it's just feels safe the same way to align yourself with the majority sometimes feel safe.
- [30:04]
Brooke Devard
You know, I'm all for people expressing themselves in a way that feels unique to them. I've got another outfit question for you. The brief. You're going to a summer wedding and you want to be one of the best dressed wedding guests. What is your, what are you putting on?
- [30:22]
Atiya Walcott
I'm wearing a gown from Kalentar. I wish I had the name. It's like the next person purchase I want to make. It's a 100% beaded gown down. I wish I studied fashion so I could tell you the silhouette.
- [30:34]
Brooke Devard
Wait, tell me the name of the brand again so I can write this down immediately.
- [30:38]
Atiya Walcott
Kalentar. K I L E N T A R. Okay.
- [30:44]
Brooke Devard
Wow. Oh my gosh. Her dresses are Gorgeous.
- [30:48]
Atiya Walcott
They're gorgeous.
- [30:49]
Brooke Devard
I want everything on this website.
- [30:51]
Atiya Walcott
Me too.
- [30:53]
Brooke Devard
You and I are going to be twins this summer. Going to weddings. This beautiful. That be this yellow layered raffia dress dress. The yellow fringe. Gorgeous. Oh, my gosh.
- [31:03]
Atiya Walcott
I have that fringe set in the skirt, top, bottom. But the strapless dress version I love. And then their latest collection, all of like the beaded dresses. I love the one that's the short sleeve V neck floor length gown. That's like my next dress.
- [31:22]
Brooke Devard
Gorgeous. Okay, last one. It's. It's date night. Night with your man. What are you putting on?
- [31:29]
Atiya Walcott
I'm putting on Awake Mode because I love Awake Mode and I love everything Awake Mode makes. It's tailored but also avant garde. I love an avant garde touch. And yeah, that's what I'm wearing now.
- [31:41]
Brooke Devard
Let's talk about being avant garde because there's actually an item I bought from Awake Mode to really get in my avant garde bag, and I ended up selling it to the real world because I was like, it's a little too avant garde. How do. Do you. Have you ever had that? Like, you, you take it too far. Like, you buy something that you're like, oh, I'm so excited. But then you wear it. And like, in my case, quite frankly, I just felt like a clown. Like, I was like, this is Brooke. This is too much.
- [32:06]
Atiya Walcott
100%. I actually bought a pair of shoes from Awake Mode and they had tassels. And I was like, these are going to be awesome. They were. They looked crazy on me. And I wear a size 11 foot, so it also made my already huge foot look even bigger, which is fine. But with the right aesthetic now, now,
- [32:23]
Brooke Devard
you know, people are listening to this. They may feel like, okay, I don't have the budget to buy some of these designers. What's your advice for someone who loves fashion, but they're on a tight budget and like, basically, how do you build a wardrobe that feels elevated without spending a lot of money?
- [32:39]
Atiya Walcott
For starters, buy one piece at a time. If you buy a piece that you love, you can get a lot of wear out of it to different types of functions and events. That only. Only happens when you purchase smartly and with intention. So then step two is going to be, if you live in a city like Chicago, then you can get out, go to your thrift stores, go to your second hand shops, and there will be good selection. I grew up, like I said, at the cul de sac in New Jersey, at the end of a cul de sac in New Jersey. So growing Up. My mom was on ebay. I styled a pair of vintage Manolo Blahniks that I got out of my mom's closet that she's had for who knows how long.
- [33:20]
Brooke Devard
And.
- [33:21]
Atiya Walcott
And growing up, she would just buy all of these designer shoes on ebay. So go to ebay. Go to the RealReal. I don't do this enough, but I hear stories every day of people holding up the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. And they're like, I spent $75 on this.
- [33:36]
Brooke Devard
I mean, I am like the real, real down. I need to reach out to them to be like, please sponsor this podcast. Because they should. They should. They sponsor a lot of podcasts, actually. But the real real is truly, especially when you know what you're looking for or a fashion girl's dream.
- [33:52]
Atiya Walcott
There's a shop in Chicago that I love that I only buy my vintage clothes from this shop right now. It's called Storby Vintage. But I've gotten like the most gorgeous stuff from there. A vintage Dries top, a vintage missoni skirt. Like, truly pieces that I love and I've worn so many times since I've purchased them. And for a great price.
- [34:12]
Brooke Devard
Yes. So I prefer shopping in person, but I will shop online occasionally. What's your philosophy around how you shop? Shop?
- [34:21]
Atiya Walcott
I also love shopping in person. For example, that Kalentar dress, that is a purchase that I will make online, but that happens so rarely because I am not hunting for clothes just because my niche on Instagram and TikTok is fashion. I get sent a lot of clothes for brand deals. Like those Veronica Beard trousers. I didn't found them, they kind of found me, but I do love them. So I. I would say am unique in that way where because I just work this job, I genuinely don't shop. I'm actually. I'm actually making a point not to shop because there's so many clothes in my space.
- [35:02]
Brooke Devard
Could you just like, name drop a little bit? All of the fabulous brands and designers that just want to send you stuff and give you fabulous things.
- [35:08]
Atiya Walcott
Issey Miyake is the latest period, and I'm so excited. But there are kind of like deliverables. So I'm just like in the gray area. I will say this. My real, real passion is in storytelling. Like I mentioned, I studied film undergrad and graduate school, went to USC for acting and graduated into the pandemic. So there was kind of not much else to do other than to create content. But I have so much love for it. Like, everyone gets dressed every Day. But I don't view myself as sort of in the industry.
- [35:44]
Brooke Devard
Right, right. You're someone, you're someone who's passionate about fashion and dressing, but you're not, you're not gonna like, live and die a fashion person. Exactly.
- [35:55]
Atiya Walcott
And I have a lot of respect for those who are, but I will live and die. Like about books and about movies.
- [36:02]
Brooke Devard
Yes.
- [36:02]
Atiya Walcott
And as a black woman in America too, I just. How I'm dressed informs how people treat me so, so, so, so so much that it's just, just something I have to think about and do and always will.
- [36:15]
Brooke Devard
Yes, yes. Now, how do you rest when you spend so much time? Like, you know how these algorithms are. They're not very forgiving on, like when you take time off. This industry demands constant output. What does rest look like for someone whose work is also their art? You also shoot everything with your husband, so I would imagine there's a lot of the creative work that bleeds into your partnership and day to day life. How do you kind of keep those lines clean?
- [36:45]
Atiya Walcott
Until we bought the house that I'm sitting in, so my husband and I lived in a condo where we shoot and film all of our content. And then we just bought this house two weeks ago or three weeks ago. So three weeks ago, there was no separation. Every single day of the week, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I would sit up and I would say, hey, can we film content? I rarely take time off. My mother is a corporate lawyer and I saw her wake up every single day growing up at like 5 in the morning to go to New York City to work her corporate job all day and get back home at 11. So what I do still feels so much. Not just not easier, but more enjoyable. You know, every day. Growing up, my grandmother said, love what you do and you'll never work a day in your life. So that is really how I live my life right now. So I work all the time. After this call, I'm gonna go sit down, down, put on Real Housewives and edit and post content for the day. After that, I'm going to edit the brand deal for Net A Porter so it can be in their inbox tomorrow morning. After that, I'll edit the Veronica Beard brand deal if I'm still awake. If not, that'll roll into the next day. So I would say my plate is immensely full. I am so grateful to have paid work. I can't state this enough, maybe because I'm in my 30s when I'm sort of getting into this, I know what it's like to go to a corporate job, like to go to an office with a boss, and it's still something I can taste like. I am so grateful for this. I don't want to go back. And, you know, having gone to school and grad school, I just feel like I have a real appreciation for this job. Whereas if I had done this since I was 15, maybe I would just be burnt out, maybe I would just be tired. Going to school teaches you a lot about mental health. Acting school was all about. About how to maintain and be yourself throughout the consistent demands of the job. They were training you to be on Broadway. So you have like 12 shows a week or something like that in the morning and night on a Saturday. So you need to take care of your body, you need to take care of your voice, you need to take care of your skin. It was a very holistic education about how to remain healthy with the constraints of. Of showing up creatively every single day. So I think I'm a little bit more mature than I was a decade ago and well trained for the demands of being a content creator.
- [39:12]
Brooke Devard
I love that parallel. Now I'm curious how you train your eye and continue to find inspiration.
- [39:18]
Atiya Walcott
There used to be a time where I would look at my own work and I wouldn't even know if I liked it. Sort of, you look at something back and you're like, do I like this? Do I not? I've really trained my gut to be able to look at my own own work and go, I love it or I don't love it. And if I do not like it, I have no qualms trashing it. There used to be a time where because I spent all day filming, I would. I would force myself to post it just because I spent the time. Whereas now I'm like, you spent the time. That was a learning experience. This video doesn't actually have to go live. So long as you did the work, you will grow from that.
- [39:58]
Brooke Devard
Yes.
- [39:58]
Atiya Walcott
Now, on the. The other side of that coin is you can't rush it sometimes. It's just years in the business, like, helps you become a better content creator. So now I hardly am throwing out videos. You know, I know what I like now because I've paid attention, I've watched the content back, I've looked at the outfits I've liked, I've learned what silhouette I like. Now I know how doing your hair kind of can add a cool. I know that that word is not the right word, but can add a unique touch. Like, I know what works for me now. But I remember trying to rush that. Like, I remember looking at content I loved and thinking, why can't I emulate that? Or, why can't I be on that level today? But it's. You have to just show up. Yeah.
- [40:44]
Brooke Devard
Yes. What you're talking about. So Ira Glass has kind of coined the term the taste gap. Have you ever heard him talk about. About this? It's basically like, when you have good taste, you can recognize what's excellent, but then your skills haven't caught up yet. So what you make doesn't match what you know is good. I actually pulled up the quote from him. So he says, nobody tells us to people who are beginners. What got you into the field is that you have good taste, but your work doesn't have the special thing that you want it to have. It's only by going through a volume of work that you will close that gap. So it's exactly what you're saying. It's like the volume and the consistency and output brings that taste gap closer together between what you know is good and what your output is.100%, yes. So I always admired your braids, but then one day I saw you sitting with braiding hair, and I was like, wait, she's doing these herself? That is crazy. So, one, have you always braided your hair yourself? And two, why is this something that you enjoy taking control over?
- [41:44]
Atiya Walcott
I used to never braid my own hair growing up. It was something I did for the first time when I moved to LA after I graduated in my early 20s. I was in a new city, I was in a new state. Every time I had gotten my hair done previously, it had been through recommendation, through my mom. So I kind of was just young in la and I didn't know where to go for my hair, but I knew I wanted my hair done two days from then. And we're also in the social media era, you know, So I probably saw. I don't remember exactly why I thought I could do this, but I'm sure I saw someone braiding their own hair and decided, yeah, I could probably do that.
- [42:22]
Liv Albert
That.
- [42:23]
Atiya Walcott
And it was very hard the first time, but I did it and I loved it. I really loved it. I loved that I didn't have to sit in a chair for seven hours or eight hours or nine hours. I loved that I could eat food and smoke a little weed. I'm not gonna lie. I don't know if you have to cut that out and watch a bunch of movies while I braided my hair. Why did I do it for the first time also is because I'm tenderheaded. I used to be very tender headed. So my parents would drop me at the shop and say, see you later. And I would just be there for all seven of these hours, screaming, crying, throwing up. And the trauma of that is probably why I do my own hair and why I'm like, it has to be a thousand and one times easier for me to do this myself than to have someone else do it.
- [43:14]
Brooke Devard
Yes. Okay. I love the control. I don't think I could do it because I just don't have the patience. But it's very inspiring to watch you do it. And geez. Think that braids are your signature style?
- [43:26]
Atiya Walcott
I think braids are my comfort style.
- [43:28]
Brooke Devard
Okay.
- [43:29]
Atiya Walcott
When I just saw your hair out two days ago, I was like, if I could just pluck that hair and put it right on my head, I would feel so good. But it's always, you know, for me, I'm just. I haven't spent the time that I will spend soon learning how to do my natural hair. I can do a twist out, I can do a twist and go, go. But I would say these braids specifically that I have in right now are my current signature style. The hair is from DB Hair. Any. I don't know if you know her eni that greater any given Sunday. Any. She recommend DB Hair. I bought it and I love it. I wish I had done my hair before this podcast, but I braid with human hair so I can wash it, curl. Exactly. And I love it.
- [44:18]
Brooke Devard
I love it. Oh, my gosh. I need to send you. I have these heatless hair rollers for, like, you can do it on. On all types of hair. But I love setting human hair braids with like a mousse and these like, curlers. And you can just create beautiful styles. I'm gonna send you, I'm gonna set you.
- [44:32]
Atiya Walcott
I love your braids. I started doing the, like, pull out, like how your braider. You could just slide your braids out.
- [44:39]
Brooke Devard
Yes.
- [44:40]
Atiya Walcott
I started trying to, like, do my version of that. And it really saves a lot of time.
- [44:45]
Brooke Devard
So much time. Time.
- [44:46]
Atiya Walcott
One other thing. So I don't do micro braids anymore. These, I would say, are like extra small. They're extra small to small. But I did micros once. Like a true, true micro. There was a girl, I think her name is Kyra, and she was.
- [45:02]
Brooke Devard
Oh, yeah, I know her. She lives in Miami. Like, literally, if there is a girl on the Internet that has micro braids, I've Seen her content. Yes, Kyra. Shout out. Shout out to her.
- [45:13]
Atiya Walcott
She was, like, in law school at the time. I saw her do it and I thought, let me do the micros. And I had a friend's wedding in Portugal. The braids turned out so well. Damaged the crap out of my hair.
- [45:23]
Brooke Devard
Yeah.
- [45:23]
Atiya Walcott
I went way too small and my hairline for like two years was thin. So I won't, won't go that small again ever. But since I braid my own hair, I can re braid them all the time if something's, you know, I can just maintain the braids so there's less breakage than if I couldn't do them and kind of was just sitting in them for months, you know?
- [45:45]
Brooke Devard
Yes.
- [45:45]
Atiya Walcott
I'm kind of rebraiding each braid like every two weeks.
- [45:48]
Brooke Devard
Oh, wow. Now let's get into your skincare routine. Because the skin is gorgeous and I feel like I would love more. You know, I go to you for fashion, but I would love more skincare and beauty content from you because really? Yes. I'm gonna put that request in right now. On air. What is your skincare routine? What are the products you're using? Using Sophie Pavin face. Yes, Sophie. Shout out to Sophie, friend of the pod.
- [46:14]
Atiya Walcott
I feel so bad. They sent me their SPF and it was under embargo and I totally posted it and they were like, this product is not released yet. And I was like, oh, sorry. But I got on her whole regimen and it really helped my skin. I think that's the first skin care that I decided, like, I use this. I will go out and buy this. I am one who's been very lax with her skincare routine. I also use Dr. Barbara Sturm, her enzyme cleanser. That is another one that I am on. I love that cleanser.
- [46:47]
Brooke Devard
Yes. Also great to travel with because it's a powder.
- [46:51]
Atiya Walcott
Exactly. You get it? No liquids there. And I was like, going to say it's under a certain amount of ounces, but it is only because it's a powder.
- [47:02]
Brooke Devard
So it's very light.
- [47:03]
Atiya Walcott
What else? I use Sulwasu.
- [47:05]
Brooke Devard
Okay.
- [47:07]
Atiya Walcott
But it's very expensive Sulasu. So frankly, I've done work with the brand. I'm not sure if I'm going to repurchase the serum. It's like $250.
- [47:19]
Brooke Devard
The ginseng serum?
- [47:20]
Atiya Walcott
Yes. The rejuvenating ginseng serum is.
- [47:23]
Brooke Devard
It's very nice. Do you use that, like, first care serum that goes before the one in the white bottle before you do the ginseng ceremony? You just go straight ginseng. Ginseng.
- [47:32]
Atiya Walcott
I go straight ginseng. And then the lotion.
- [47:36]
Brooke Devard
Okay, nice.
- [47:37]
Atiya Walcott
So I'm going to talk through. So I'll do the enzyme cleanser.
- [47:40]
Brooke Devard
Yes.
- [47:40]
Atiya Walcott
Then the Sophie pavet. And then I will do the Sophie Pavet. No space. The face spray first in that blue bottle. It's like some type of face spray.
- [47:52]
Brooke Devard
Okay.
- [47:53]
Atiya Walcott
Love that. I always feel like my hands are super dirty. They're not, but I. I just hate touching my face. Like, I'm always washing my hands. I get it really well, like, five times. Touch my face. So then I do the mandelic serum by Sophie Pavit. And then I do the rejuvenating serum by Sulwasu. Then I do a lotion by Sulawasu. Then I do the Sophie Pavett lotion. Because it's pretty thick.
- [48:21]
Brooke Devard
Yes.
- [48:21]
Atiya Walcott
That's final. And then I do the Sophie Pavit sunscreen. It's like a mineral sunscreen. It has a slight white cast for, like, 20 seconds. And then it's. And then it's, like, settles into your face and it gives a nice glow.
- [48:35]
Brooke Devard
Yes, yes. Okay. Love all of those products. What about for makeup?
- [48:40]
Atiya Walcott
Okay. I use a House Labs.
- [48:44]
Brooke Devard
House Labs is really like my obsession with House Labs. I was just talking about this on. On the podcast that came out today. I feel like they do not get enough credit for their innovation.
- [48:54]
Atiya Walcott
They're great. Love the product and the brush. I use the House Labs foundation brush, and I'm just getting into makeup, and I love my makeup routine now. It's like a natural makeup look, but I use the same brush for every step. So I. I kind of just spot use concealer to kind of, like, even out my skin tone. I use the Haus Labs contour stick, and then this lip gloss. This exa lip gloss that I'm obsessed with. That is a true product. I first put the red color all over my lips. It's, like, not on right now, of course, but then I do the pink just in the dead center of my lip. Lips.
- [49:31]
Brooke Devard
Yes. I think I commented under this. Under one of your videos. I was like, what is this lip combo?
- [49:36]
Atiya Walcott
That was the first time people had ever asked for, like, my makeup online. Like, three people were like, what are the makeup details? And I felt so cool. I was like, y' all want to know about my makeup? But again, I did not grow up wearing makeup. I. I wish I could do a full beat. It's just because my mom was like, you don't need makeup. I. I didn't get into it until recently.
- [49:56]
Brooke Devard
Yes. Well, you're. You're doing a great job. Agree with your mom. Your mom sounds like a very wise, brilliant woman. So, like, shout out to mom. I feel like she come up so much if she is. Wait, what's your mom's name?
- [50:07]
Atiya Walcott
My mom's name is Wanjie Walcott.
- [50:09]
Brooke Devard
Wanjie Walcott. Let me, like, text my mom now
- [50:11]
Atiya Walcott
and be, like, named Jerry.
- [50:13]
Brooke Devard
My. My mom's name is Jerry.
- [50:15]
Atiya Walcott
Yeah. So I told my mom that I was gonna be on your podcast. She's like, oh, I'm friends with Jerry.
- [50:20]
Brooke Devard
I just texted my mom to ask if. If she. I'm sure she knows. Oh, she. She says yes, exclamation marks.
- [50:26]
Atiya Walcott
I love that your mom is so well dressed. She's so fashionable.
- [50:31]
Brooke Devard
Yeah. Oh, my gosh. So funny. Such a small world. My mom is here to say hello.
- [50:36]
Atiya Walcott
I know you're a mom. I know you're a mom. Atiya, we've talked about you before. How are you? It's so nice to meet you.
- [50:44]
Brooke Devard
Her mom. Her mom kept coming up, and then to me, she's like, well, my mom told me this, and my mom told me I didn't need makeup. It's like, your mom sounds like a very, like, wise person. She's like, actually, my mom knows your mom. I know.
- [50:53]
Atiya Walcott
I love wangi.
- [50:54]
Brooke Devard
I love wangi. Nice to have met you.
- [50:57]
Atiya Walcott
Please tell your mom I said hello.
- [50:59]
Brooke Devard
Hello. Okay. So, Atiya, as someone that has this deep background in film, I feel like people are really sleeping on the fact that movies can truly transform the way you dress and, like, just seep into your brain to become the ultimate fashion inspiration. What are the movies that you watch specifically for the fashion of it all? The visual eye candy.
- [51:19]
Atiya Walcott
Number one has to be Umbrellas of Cherbourg, which is a French musical with the most delightful, beautiful clothes and colors you've ever seen. The main.
- [51:32]
Brooke Devard
I've never even heard of this movie.
- [51:34]
Atiya Walcott
Film school.
- [51:35]
Brooke Devard
Okay.
- [51:36]
Atiya Walcott
A lot of art house cinema. Speaking of art house cinema, let's move on to number two, which is Daughters of the Dust.
- [51:42]
Brooke Devard
Yes.
- [51:43]
Atiya Walcott
Iconic. I'm also going to say how to Steal a Million, which is an Audrey Hepburn film that I referenced in the beginning of the movie. But all of her clothes are so wonderful in the movie. That made me think of Breakfast at Tiffany's. But I'm gonna say Spike Lee, do the right Thing.
- [51:59]
Brooke Devard
Ooh. I also love Spike Lee, do the Right Thing and Daughters of the Dust. I do think it's. It's one of those Movies, when you watch it, it kind of like seeps into your consciousness later because it's it. The whole movie is kind of like this dreamlike state. You see these beautiful black women. They're all wearing like white cotton and they have their natural hair and it's kind of like it's very voluminous and it's not like slicked and tamed down. And it's just the visuals of that film are incredible. But yeah, it was made in 1991 and it still feels so relevant and do the right thing. 1989, just. What a movie.
- [52:32]
Atiya Walcott
What a movie. I love that you have the years of those films stored away in your head. And then lastly, my mom, who I've talked about nonstop because I'm obsessed with her, sat me and my sisters down and was like, required viewing. Daughters of the Dust.
- [52:47]
Brooke Devard
Yes.
- [52:47]
Atiya Walcott
And we loved it. It does stick with. With you and it's such a beautiful film.
- [52:52]
Brooke Devard
Oh, my gosh. And I'm going to check out this movie, the Umbrellas of Cherbourg, which when did. When Was that made?
- [52:59]
Atiya Walcott
60s.
- [53:02]
Brooke Devard
Yeah. Sometimes you've got to go back 1964. The umbrellas of Cherbourg. Okay.
- [53:07]
Atiya Walcott
But it's a musical, so just be warned. It's not people talking, they're singing.
- [53:12]
Brooke Devard
Okay. Okay. You've been warned. Well, this has been such an education in fashion, lifestyle, art, film. Like, truly such a pleasure to chat with you. And I have to finish by asking you, when do you feel most beautiful?
- [53:28]
Atiya Walcott
I feel most beautiful when I'm at home snuggled up with my husband and my dogs, just watching a movie, to be honest with you.
- [53:36]
Brooke Devard
Yeah, I love it. I love it.
- [53:38]
Atiya Walcott
Second most beautiful when I'm in a gown. Okay. From Net a porter made by Rabanne or something. Something.
- [53:45]
Brooke Devard
Yes. Yes. We love it. Well, thank you so much, Atiya. We are constantly rooting for you, watching every moment and just getting all of the inspiration we need to live our best lives from your content. So thank you so much.
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Atiya Walcott
What a pleasure. Thank you so much for having me and have a great rest of your day. To everyone listening and to you, Brooke.
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Brooke Devard
Yes, thank you so much.
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Atiya Walcott
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Atiya Walcott
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