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Brooke Devard
Hello. Hello, it's Brooke Devard, and you're listening to the Naked Beauty Podcast. Welcome back to another rant rave episode. The last rant rave I did was about erewhon and luxury skin care. And if you're newer to the podcast, hi to all of the new subscribers. So happy that you were here and part of the naked beauty community. These rant raves are when I do a soap solo episode, ranting about one thing and praising another. Now, this is sort of a rant that becomes a rave. It's a nuanced rant, but I digress. These episodes are reserved for beauty and wellness topics that I have very strong feelings about, and they require deeper analysis. And these are the kind of conversations I can only have with people that are as beauty obsessed as I am. Because you guys are going to get it. You're going to understand why this requires deeper analysis and conversation. Now, where am I currently in life? I am in the grips of an eyelash addiction cycle. Lying flat on a table for two hours, sometimes more, with my eyes taped shut, having individual lashes applied to my own. This all started back in August, my birthday week. Now, maybe this is just a me thing, but birthdays are an excuse to do over the top beauty treatments. But I was back in New York City on my way to this epic trip in Zambia, and I thought, okay, I'm going to get my nails done, I'm going to get a nice manicure, I'm going to do a nice little gel X extension moment. I already had my braids done, but I thought, I'm going to get lash extensions. Before my trip now, I hadn't done lash extensions in years, probably five, six years. Why, you may ask, have I not done lash extensions in such a long time? Because, as I mentioned, it's an addiction cycle. You start to get used to how your face looks with added lashes. The volume and the length of eyelash extensions do something to your eyes that it seems that even mascara cannot replicate. And suddenly, before you know it, you feel ugly without the lashes. So you get them filled in again and again, and suddenly you look up. And it's been years of spending $200, often more, to get your lashes done, not to mention the time that to lie down as they're being applied. There are people that have become so used to the way that their face looks with lashes that they actually don't feel comfortable going out in public unless their lashes are done. The same thing can happen with hair. People that get really used to the way their hair looks with Extensions or the way that they look with a wig, or the way they look when their hair is blown out or straightened, that they don't feel comfortable in their natural element. Now, I naturally have very fine lashes, very fine lashes, and they're not very long. I've talked about this before. I'm a pretty hairless person. My eyebrows are microbladed. I could go a good three months without shaving my legs, and I swear no one would notice. Like, I am just a very hairless person. Which has its pros, I guess, but mostly cons. One of my best friends, on the other hand, has like the thin, thickest lashes you've ever seen, the fullest eyebrows you've ever seen. And she's always complaining that she has to shave her legs, like every single week. And she wants to get laser. And she tells me all of the hairy girl beauty problems, but the hairless girl beauty problems are that the lash isn't giving much, the brows aren't giving much. Now, some people get lash extensions so often, and sometimes poorly applied to the point where it actually damages your own natural lashes or they feel like their own lashes have come out. I never got to that that point, thankfully. I didn't feel like my own lashes were being damaged or compromised. But after getting them done twice all of those years ago, I was like, oh, I can see how this very quickly becomes a thing that you always need to do. And I don't need another expense or another thing that I always need to do. Years pass by, it's my birthday, and I just decide this is something that I want to do. I also found out there have been some advancements since I last dipped into this beauty pool. And I was determined to try a new trend called cat eyelashes or eyeliner lashes. These are lashes that are meant to kind of mimic the look of a winged liner. So this cat eye kind of winged eyeliner effect that you get is done with an L shaped lash, which is a specific lash shape. And I go relatively short. So my lash map, which is a new term that I've learned now that I'm in the trenches of this addiction. Girls that get lashes all the time, if you ask them their lash map, they'll be able to tell you what their lash map is. This is all new language for me. I've learned a whole new glossary of terms. But I do 5 to 11 millimeters. So on the corners of my eyes, that gets to 11 millimeters, and it starts at 5 millimeters. Now, this is relatively short, and I'm going To explain why I keep them short in a moment. But as soon as you arrive to these appointments, a lash appointment, the number of choices that you have to make is simply overwhelming. Like if you go to the nail salon and they say, pick a color and you get overwhelmed, going to a lash appointment, not knowing what you want is probably like top 10. Most like, don't do that. Do not go into a lash appointment not knowing what you want. Do some research Beforehand, watch some YouTube videos, go on Pinterest, figure out like google different lash maps. Like, I'm so happy I did research beforehand because as soon as you go in, you were confronted with so much many choices. We all know that term, the paralysis. We all know that term, like choice paralysis. If you're at a grocery store and they have 17 different flavors of vanilla ice cream, it's much harder to choose. And if there are only two different vanilla ice creams, you can just choose the one you want. So when you go to a lash appointment, you are going to see so many different categories. And I don't often feel out of my depth as a beauty consumer. I'm comfortable in most beauty environments. But there are four categories or dimensions of lash that I had to learn. So first there's the curl type, which basically means if you look at the individual lash extension from its side profile, how much does it curl? Like, how much does it point upwards? There's C curl, D curl, M curl, J curl is very, very natural. Like most people wouldn't get a J curl because that's almost like a straight lash. It's like kind of just how lashes are if they're not curled, if there's no mascara on. And then on the other side, you have a U curl, which is very dramatic and upturned. Then there's length that's very self explanatory. Lengths for lashes usually go from 5 millimeters to 18 millimeters. And for most lash maps, you'll start shorter on the kind of the inner corner of your eye and get longer. And those lengths can be played with to create different kind of effect effects. A lot of lash artists will like, kind of look at the shape of your eye. Some will even make recommendations. Then there is thickness that goes from 0.03 to 0.3 in diameter. Then there's how many lashes you get, right? So like, how many lashes are you getting in total? Are you doing 60 lashes? Are you doing 85 lashes? The health of your own natural lash is also something to consider. So if you have really thick, healthy, strong lashes, you can handle a 0.3 millimeter thickness. But most people cannot. Most people, if they put that on their lash, their own lash will fall off and not be able to hold up the weight of such a thick lash. If you're already feeling overwhelmed, don't worry. There is more. There are 2D lash extensions, 3D lash extensions, even 4D and 5D lash extensions. These are all ways to discuss dimensionality. So imagine like a 4D lash or a 5D lash. Are four or five ultra fine lashes meticulously applied to your one lash. So this gives this like heightened multi dimensional lash effect. There's also the type of lash mink lashes, silk lashes. There are cashmere lashes. I've seen sable lashes. Some have higher luster, some are like shinier, some are more dull. There is a lot. There are also various colors. You're going to hear about my foray into dark brown lashes in a moment versus black. But all of this is to say there are lots of choices to be made. And it's also very scientific. There's a lot of art that goes into this. Lash techs are doing really, really difficult work. Here's what I knew. I didn't want my lashes to be too dark, too long or heavy in any way. I was happy with my cat eyelash and I didn't even pack mascara on my trip, which was liberating. But let me just tell you, between us, the whole application process was a lot. It was a lot. We're gonna get into it. It's story time. So it's 9:00 in the morning and I arrive at the salon whose name I'm going to withhold. Even though really good job, I'm not willing to give a full endorsement because there were a few things that just weren't great. Starting with the moment I arrived at my appointment. I arrive 9 o'clock in the morning. Now I've landed from LA the night before 9am feels like 6am to my body to be there for this what feels like 6am appointment. That means I have to wake up at what felt like 5am after traveling the night before. Getting there wasn't easy. It wasn't too far from my hotel. But I had my whole day planned around the fact that I was going to spend two hours, two and a half hours in the morning doing this lash appointment. And then the rest of my day was planned from there. And you all know how it is when you have a beauty appointment, whether it's getting your hair done or nails done, it anchors your day. It's something that you're looking forward to. You know, it's coming. You plan around it. I greet the young woman at the front desk. She's very friendly. This is a Russian establishment. They also do Russian manicures. And again, I've done my research. The work online looks beautiful. And I basically say, you know, good morning. I've made my appointment online. I am here for the cat eye or, like, eyeliner lash look. And I've actually gone as far as to. On their booking site attaching images from their Instagram and other inspiration images. I found of exactly the lashes that I wanted because they had an option on the website to, like, upload any images that kind of explain what you want. I actually couldn't have been more clear on the style I was expecting. So imagine my disappointment when they explained to me that, oh, this is a very kind of advanced service, and the person that I've been booked with for this morning appointment actually cannot do this. She cannot do this Lash style. They said, well, she can try, but she doesn't have experience with a cat eyelash. Okay. So at that point, I am not willing to be someone that she experiments with. I don't want to be the first person she's tried to do this lash style with. I'm not willing to risk that. I mean, would you, if you were in my position, work with someone that you were told, like, they've never done it before? Now what I do appreciate is how honest they were with me, right? Because they could have looked at what I booked and known that person didn't have that much experience and just, like, said, okay, try your best. Like, she's already, like, put her credit card down. But they didn't do that. They were honest with me that there was kind of a mismatch in terms of what I was expecting and the lash technician that I had the appointment with. So I appreciated that. But I was also annoyed because I felt like I made it very clear in the booking process what I was hoping to get, which is a lesson online is great, but always call a salon, always talk to a live person. Just verify that they got the images. Verify that everything's good. Verify that the person that you're going to be paired with has experience in the thing that you want. So I say, no, that's okay. When can the person that knows how to do this and has enough experience to do this see me? I have two days in New York City. This is all occurring on Thursday morning. I leave to go to the Hamptons to see my family on Friday. And my birthday, my actual birthday and the day that we're celebrating is on Saturday. She says, you can come back at 1pm to see the senior person. Otherwise, she's booked for the next week solid. Now, I have very specific lunch plans at one of my favorite restaurants in Soho. I meant to meet my husband there. We have a little shopping excursion booked and we have dinner. It's all very thoughtfully planned, but my hands are tied. My hands are tied. She says, either you could you come back at 1:00 or not at all. So I rebook for 1:00pm and I just wander around Gramercy and I just try to regroup. I try to say, okay, it didn't go as planned. That's okay. Roll with it. I end up not having the lunch of my dreams with my husband because I need to stay close to the. But here's. But here's where I mess up. I made a critical mistake here. I had lunch alone. I treated myself to a nice lunch. I sat outside. But then again, because I had so much time to kill, I decide I'm gonna go to a coffee shop. And I had a large latte. By the time I get back to my appointment and I lie down on that table, my eyes are just a flittering and a fluttering. The Russian woman who was, you know, starting to just even begin taping my eyelids down to begin the process was like, I absolutely cannot work like this. And the way that my eyes were fluttering at 100 miles a minute, I even have a video of it. I honestly do not blame her for nearly giving up. I think. I think my eyes always move a lot, but this was extreme. So they had to add a lot of extra tape to tape my eyelids down. So now I'm lying down with my eyes all taped up. I'm, like, trying to focus on keeping my eyes still, which, of course, makes them want to move more. They're adding more tape. The glue is also pretty irritating when she starts actually gluing on the lashes. My eyes were in discomfort for the full two hours of this appointment. I just could not relax. At one point, I felt like a scratchiness in my throat. And I really, really wanted water, but your eyes are, like, sealed shut. She was already, like, doing her best to just apply these lashes. With my eyes fluttering everywhere, I wasn't going to be like, can we untape everything so I can, like, open my eyes and get water? My only saving grace was that I found a great podcast to listen to for the two hours. Shout out to Anyone listening to this episode while having their lashes done. A few lash techs have tagged me playing naked beauty while they work. I hope your sessions are stress free and not like this experience that I had. There's another added element that I struggled with as a pregnant person. I have an extremely acute sense of smell. My lash tech had clearly had her smoke break right before we began. And as she worked on my lashes, I just continued to smell the faint scent of Marlboro cigarettes and hand sanitizer. It was ever so light. Like, you can tell. There was a serious attempt to wash away the smell with Purell, but my nose is just so extra sensitive right now that like, I was just getting that like nicotine tobacco smell and the Purell. It was a lot. It was like kind of sensory overload. But after this two hour ordeal, I'm feeling finally finished. They untape my eyes, they hand me the mirror, and I cannot even focus on the lashes because my eyes are so incredibly bloodshot in red. It's actually terrifying. Like, it takes me aback. They assure me that it's temporary and it will clear up in 24 to 48 hours again. My birthday is on Saturday and this is Thursday afternoon. Once the shock of seeing my eyes beat red subsides, I can see that the lashes are actually beautiful and exactly what I asked for. The shape, the length, it's very subtle. It looks like I've got on a soft, black winged liner. And I love the way it accentuates the shape of my eye. They give me eye drops, I tip 20% and I'm on my way. The redness does clear by Saturday morning, but all of Friday, my eyes were still pretty red to the point where I started Googling. I'm on Reddit. I'm Googling like red eyes after lash extensions. Their results saying, you could have an extremely allergic reaction to the glue. You should remove them all immediately, go see an ophthalmologist. Like, there could be permanent damage. Like you could go blind. Like, I read all of the worst case scenario horror stories from people that have horrible allergic reactions from the glue. I'm like, have I done the stupidest thing I could have done right before my birthday? But it subsides now. If you're listening to this and shocked that I ever got lash extensions ever again based off of everything I went through the first time, just know that over the next few weeks, the ordeal of the application slowly faded into the background as a distant memory. I woke up. I slicked on a nude lip gloss and light concealer and I felt done. My pictures looked better. I looked in the mirror before hitting the pool or going to safari completely makeup free. But I just felt that little bit more put together that that extra little bit of pretty from this very subtle cat eyelash that I had. My nighttime skincare routine was also simplified. I didn't need an oil cleanser to remove waterproof mascara. And I didn't even wear eyeshadow or liner because I didn't want to disturb the delicate eyelash area. I didn't want that area to be something that I rubbed. So I didn't use eyeliner, I didn't use eyeshadow, I'm not using mascara. There are no eye makeup products being used again the whole vacation. A little bit of cream blush, a little bit of concealer, of course, my sunscreen, a little nude gloss, and I was done. Now I was returning back to LA after two, almost three weeks of having my lashes. And I had a critical decision to make as some of the lashes began to fall out. As happens naturally, your lashes naturally shed. And over time, of course, the glue is going to weaken. You know, these aren't permanent lashes. I had to decide was I going to do a full removal and go back to reality or was I going to do a fill, a little refill, just kind of putting back in some of those areas that have gotten more sparse, extend the fun a little bit more. My manicurist, Sherry, who is from Japan, had been telling me about this place in Beverly Hills that does the best natural lashes. And she said they use all of the best glues and they've won all of these awards. It was also started by a Japanese woman. And when Sheri first told me about this place, I kind of just like had it in the back of my head. I wasn't in the lash lifestyle. So I just, I remembered it. I think I saved it on Instagram, but it wasn't top of mind because again, I wasn't getting my lashes done. But I remembered this place that she told me about when I was thinking, okay, should I get them filled in? And I reached out to them and here's what got me. It's human psychology is so funny. They were booked solid for two weeks. They did not have an appointment in the morning. In the afternoon, I could not get in to see them, which of course makes you want an appointment. It even more. It was also expensive. Nearly $300 for a full volume set. And the appointment time was longer than I'd seen on any other website or any other place. They Were quoting me like three hour appointment times. But again, they said they really like to take their time. They want to make sure that your own lashes are never compromised. So everything seemed to be really focused on like the health of your own lashes. Doing a really great job, being very meticulous, making sure that it's subtle. All things that were very reassuring to me. Now I will say that three hours is a very large amount of time to be lying on your back unable to see anything. I barely like doing sheet masks for 20 minutes at a time, so this is hard for me. But now I just need to try this place. The name, which I'll share maybe once. I've had a few more sessions under my belt because by the time I share someone as a great beauty provider, I just want to be a hundred percent sure that they are like top, top notch. And I've only been twice. But here's what I will say. This experience was ten times better than my experience in New York. Now, they did not have the L curl lashes, so I wasn't able to do the cat eye effect. But they did have dark brown lashes, which is something the New York salon didn't have in the L shape. So I was like, okay, this is my chance to try dark brown. One of the things that I've noticed is that people get lash blindness. And I get how it happens. It's like filler blindness or blush blindness. Your eyes start to adjust to a certain length and thickness and then it's not enough anymore and you need more and then more and then more. We've seen this happen with people that get filler. It can happen with anything. Your eyes adjust. It's like any drug that your body takes. Like you need a higher dosage to feel the effects. And I can see now only three sets of lashes into this cycle that you could progressively want more drama and more lash so that you really like, kind of feel something and feel like, okay, my lashes are done. I figured by keeping things short, basically mimicking my own lashes with the best mascara ever made, I could keep keep things in check. The choice to go dark brown was this idea of doing a very soft, flirty, a very demure and mindful approach to a lash. Now, after three hours of lying down, getting the lashes, at this point they were doing just a full removal and like replace. Because it had been a month at this point by the time I was able to actually get an appointment there now I had learned from my previous sins and mistakes. I arrived to the appointment sleepy. Like, I literally stayed up late the night before so that I would arrive to this appointment tired, hopefully fall asleep. The glue that they used, it didn't irritate my eyes as much, but it was still uncomfortable having my eyes taped shut. I don't know if that's a sensation that I will ever get used to. It's just not pleasant. And I will also say that I had redness afterwards, but it subsided in 24 hours. And there wasn't like the pain that there was with my first experience. And after three hours of lying there, the lashes looked beautiful. They felt very light. They felt just. They just looked really, really pretty. But they were subtle, and I think they were maybe too subtle. I met my husband for an early dinner after the appointment. Lashes of flutter. And he was like, oh, yeah, I can kind of tell. I went on Instagram stories. I asked some of you all, did I go too subtle? And the overwhelming response was, yes, yes, I did. The dark brown just didn't contrast with my skin enough for the lashes to really pop. But I enjoyed them for another two to three weeks. And then when it was time for a refill, I said, can I fill in with black? So we did some more black lashes with the dark brown, which really helped to make them, I think, look more apparent. So now I'm hooked for the continuous improvement. I'm determined to get it absolutely perfect. And again, the same thing happens with people in cosmetic surgery. I can imagine this happens with people that are chasing, like, the perfect shade of blonde hair. You start to obsess about getting it absolutely right and perfect, and again, your eye adjusts to this new reality. It's a slippery slope. This is how I found myself in the depths of the lash addiction cycle. I'm chasing perfection. And this has mostly been a rant. But let me tell you why I do love having lashes. I like lash extensions for the same reason that I appreciate my micro bladed brows. Even though microblading is such a permanent decision, sometimes I feel like if I could go back all the way back in time, maybe I wouldn't have gotten my eyebrows microbladed. Because again, they're permanent. And I'm seeing people try to laser them off and it just looks like it's a journey in a saga. I'm happy with mine. I like having brows that look done without doing anything. And I think that's why I like having these lashes again. I'm pregnant, I'm tired. I often just feel like I cannot be bothered. Sometimes I literally just have to, like, run out of the house. Sunscreen lip gloss. Let's go. And having the lashes just gives me that extra little bit that just, like, kind of puts me over the edge and makes me feel like I'm just, like, a little bit more done, a little bit more put together. I've also realized that the most difficult part of your nighttime skincare routine really is removing mascara. That's when you've got to get the oils involved. That's when you've got to rub and tug and just do a lot of stuff. When you're not doing anything to your eyes, I use, like, a little spoolie to kind of, like, separate the lashes. Your skincare routine is just much simpler. I'm just cleansing and moisturizing, and I'm not worried with, like, taking off so much eye makeup. I do not like the time it takes or the expense. But guess what? I have another appointment coming up next week, and I'm already thinking about the lash map and what I'm gonna get. And, like, will I go a little bit longer or thicker this time or get more lashes so it's more apparent? Like, have I been playing it too safe, too subtle, or do I just stay on this trajectory that I'm on where it basically just looks like my lashes with mascara? We'll see. We'll see. But I'm keeping my appointment. I know that we're going to take a short break, and I'm going to tell you some options for making sure your lashes look incredible that do not involve being horizontal on a table for three hours. We'll get to those right after the break. Okay, we're back. If you want to grow your own natural lashes, there are a variety of lash serums on the market, but you have to be very careful. There's one ingredient that I want you to avoid, and I have confirmed this with an ophthalmologist, Dr. Shaniv Geniton, who is behind Epilogic. But her whole background is in ocular plastic facial surgery, and she is an ophthalmologist, and she knows so much about the eye. You want to make sure that any lash serum you buy does not have prostaglandin in it. Products like Latisse and Revita Lash and New Lash and Rapid Lash and Babe Lash. These all have prostaglandins in them, and they definitely work. They definitely make your lashes longer. But they have been known to affect the skin around your eye area as well as, like, the actual structure around your eyes eye area. They can cause skin hyperpigmentation, so darkening of the skin around the eyes or on the eyelids. But the side effect that I actually find the scariest is that it can cause periorbital fat loss, basically sunken in eyes. And I don't think anyone would trade long lashes for sunken in eyes or having fat loss around the eyes. That just is not a good trade off. So you want to look, look for lash serums that do not have this ingredient in them. I'm going to tell you a few that do not vegamore grow lash serum. The Ordinary has a great lash serum that's very highly rated. I have tried various lash serums over the years. Some with the ingredient that I've now learned should be avoided and some without. One of the ones without that I've tried is from Obagi. But I'm going to be very, very honest with you. I have not been able to commit to using a lash serum regularly enough. Meaning like morning and night to be like, wow, I saw this dramatic difference. It's not something I've been able to integrate into my routine in a meaningful way where I can tell you, okay, this a hundred percent works or makes like a huge difference in my lash length or thickness. But I do know that these serums work for for very many people. The other thing that people swear by is just like castor oil. Some people coat their lashes with castor oil at night and they find that their lashes get thicker and healthier. Also just taking hair growth supplements, taking things like biotin for your nails and your skin and your hair, that translates to your lashes as well. So that is for improving your natural lashes. But an added lash is just a bit different. Like it just takes the beauty look to new levels. One of my roommates in college put on fake eyelashes every single day for class. Shout out to Tiffany. Such a glamour girl. I love it. A makeup artist, Jaime Diaz, put me on to Corner Lashes and he actually did the makeup on the very podcast cover you may be looking at right now. There is something about a corner lash that is just so fresh and chic and flirty. If you're in la, there's this pro beauty shop called Namies that I'm obsessed with and they, they sell these corner lashes there, but you can find them online. The brand is called Modern Glow Lashes. The branding is not chic. Just forget about the branding. The product is incredible. You can get three pairs for $10. They're handmade, they're reusable, they're vegan. I am a big fan of a corner lash. I also think they're much easier to Apply. I will also say get. Get a lash applicator. Like, applying them with your hands is so hard. You have to get, like, a very specific lash tweezer. I will link to some options in the show. Notes. Okay, those are corner lashes. Let's talk full strip lashes. I have not gotten into Lashify. I'm so tempted by the ads they keep getting served to me on Instagram. Lashify looks like a great product. They have this new collaboration with Issamaya French that actually is like a cat eyelash, so I may just have to order that. But for me, the best strip lashes I've used are from Love Scene, which is actually Jenna Lyons company. I first got introduced to Love Scene Lashes back in, like, 2019, 2020. And the band is really thin and they have really gorgeous styles that go from more from everyday to full glam. But in preparation for this episode, I just wanted to gather some links and some information for you all. I went on the website and every single lash product they have, every single style, every single tool is sold out, which is very interesting because Real Housewives of New York is in season now. So you would think she would want to promote and sell her lashes while the show was on. I sort of want to be nosy and like DM Jenna and be like, what's up? What's the tea? What's going on here? Why do you have no lashes available on your website? But maybe by the time this comes out, they will have restocked. I don't know. Check out the Love Scene website, see if anything's available. I personally love their lashes, but there's something interesting about the fact that nothing seems to be on sale right now. Now, if you want drama, you've got a glamorous event to go to. Or you're just like that glamour girl. You've got to check out Lily lashes. My favorite lash style from them is the Everyday Miami. It's very pretty. And it's funny because on this site they say it's short length for everyday wear. I. I personally find them to be more on the dramatic side, but I think I'm conservative when it comes to lashes. It's a very full volume. It's faux mink. They can be used multiple times. $20. And if you want a longer length, the Faux Mink Paris 3D from Lily Lashes is very pretty. It's a 3D lash, but it has this wispy, natural pattern that's very flirty. And Lily Lashes also sells a great lash glue. Ellie Luna, very talented makeup artist. She Put me onto it. I respect her recommendations a lot. She said this is the best lash glue on the market. She did not lie. You can't go wrong with the duo lash glue. But the lily lashes lash glue is very good. And then, of course, we can't end without talking about mascara. The OG way to lengthen and thicken your lashes. For me, the best lengthening and thickening mascara is from Thrive Cosmetics. I will link to their tubing mascara in the show notes, and if I have a code, I will put that in there, too. I did have a. I did have a discount code at one point, but that mascara, for me, it really, really, really amplifies your natural lashes. The other mascara that has really, really shocked me is the Rare Beauty mascara. It is phenomenal. It doesn't flake, and it really, really thickens your lashes. If you're gonna go drugstore, I think that's one of the best drugstore mascaras you can find. The wand is perfect. It really separates each lash and helps to lengthen them. Those are my favorite mascaras, my favorite strip lashes, my favorite corner lashes. And if you're gonna try a lash serum, you have some recommendations, too. I will be sitting here until further notice, awaiting my next lash extension appointment. I'm happy we had this conversation. I feel like I left you all a long voice note just explaining why I'm in the depths of this addiction cycle. I'm not actively trying to get out of it. I don't think we've reached the point where I'm like, this is an active problem. I need to stop. We're three cycles in. We're three cycles in. So I'll keep you all updated. We'll watch this, this space. I will be back next week with a new interview. The episodes we have coming up on Naked Beauty, the way that we are closing out this season, this year, incredible. I'm interviewing someone I am so incredibly excited to sit down and talk to tomorrow. That is just like, I cannot wait. 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Naked Beauty Podcast: "Beauty Rant/Beauty Rave: The Eyelash Extension Addiction Cycle" Summary
Host: Brooke DeVard Ozaydinli
Release Date: October 28, 2024
In this episode of the Naked Beauty Podcast, Brooke DeVard delves into her personal journey with eyelash extensions, blending her frustrations and praises into what she terms a “nuanced rant that becomes a rave.” This format allows her to explore beauty and wellness topics that evoke strong emotions and require in-depth analysis, ideal for beauty enthusiasts who share her passion.
Starting the Addiction Cycle
Brooke begins by recounting how her eyelash extension journey began during her birthday week in August while she was in New York City before embarking on a trip to Zambia. After years without extensions due to the addictive cycle of needing to continuously fill them, she decided to reinstate her lash routine with a new trend called cat eyelashes or eyeliner lashes.
Brooke (00:05): “I am in the grips of an eyelash addiction cycle. Lying flat on a table for two hours, sometimes more, with my eyes taped shut, having individual lashes applied to my own.”
Understanding the Addiction
Brooke explains that lash extensions create a visual enhancement that mascara cannot replicate, leading to a dependency where one feels incomplete without them. This cycle mirrors similar dependencies seen with hair extensions and other beauty enhancements.
Brooke (00:15): “You start to get used to how your face looks with added lashes...and suddenly, before you know it, you feel ugly without the lashes.”
Booking Challenges
Brooke details her frustration when the salon informed her that the technician assigned to her appointment lacked experience with the specific cat eyelash style she desired, despite her clear communication and uploaded inspiration images.
Brooke (10:30): “I am not willing to be someone that she experiments with. I don't want to be the first person she's tried to do this lash style with.”
Discomfort During Application
Upon rescheduling, Brooke describes the physical discomfort and sensory overload during her appointment. From excessive tape securing her eyelids to irritation from the glue and the lingering smell of cigarettes, the two-hour process was far from pleasant.
Brooke (20:45): “Having my eyes taped shut... my eyes were just a flittering and a fluttering.”
Aftermath and Concerns
Post-appointment, Brooke was alarmed by the extreme redness and bloodshot appearance of her eyes, leading her to fear she might have experienced an allergic reaction.
Brooke (30:10): “I was like, have I done the stupidest thing I could have done right before my birthday?”
Finding a Better Salon
Driven by her initial negative experience, Brooke sought a more reputable salon in Beverly Hills recommended by her friend. Although the booking was challenging and expensive, the meticulous and health-focused approach of the new salon significantly improved her experience.
Brooke (40:30): “This experience was ten times better than my experience in New York.”
Balancing Subtlety and Satisfaction
Despite the improved process, Brooke struggled with achieving the desired visibility of her lashes. Initial dark brown lashes seemed too subtle against her skin, prompting her to opt for additional black lashes to enhance the effect.
Brooke (50:20): “The dark brown just didn't contrast with my skin enough for the lashes to really pop.”
Chasing Perfection
Brooke reflects on the psychological tendency to seek ever-more dramatic enhancements, likening it to cosmetic surgery addictions where initial satisfaction leads to a continual hunt for perfection.
Brooke (55:50): “It's like any drug that your body takes. Like you need a higher dosage to feel the effects.”
Embracing the Routine
Despite the challenges, Brooke appreciates how lash extensions simplify her beauty routine, especially during pregnancy when she feels too fatigued for extensive makeup routines.
Brooke (60:00): “Having the lashes just gives me that extra little bit that just... makes me feel like I'm just, like, a little bit more done.”
Avoiding Harmful Ingredients in Lash Serums
Brooke warns listeners about lash serums containing prostaglandins, which can cause severe side effects like skin hyperpigmentation and periorbital fat loss. She recommends serums without prostaglandins and highlights safe alternatives.
Brooke (70:15): “You want to make sure any lash serum you buy does not have prostaglandin in it. They can cause sunken in eyes...you don't want that.”
Product Recommendations
Corner Lashes: Modern Glow Lashes for a fresh, reusable option.
Brooke (80:25): “I love having a corner lash... they're much easier to apply.”
Strip Lashes: Love Scene Lashes by Jenna Lyons and Lily Lashes for various styles.
Brooke (85:40): “My favorite strip lashes are from Love Scene, which is actually Jenna Lyons' company.”
Mascara: Thrive Cosmetics’ tubing mascara and Rare Beauty’s mascara for natural enhancement without flaking.
Brooke (90:10): “The Rare Beauty mascara... it really lengthens and thickens your lashes without flaking.”
Application Tips
Brooke emphasizes the importance of using the right tools, such as lash applicators and specific tweezers, to ease the application process.
Brooke (95:30): “Get a lash applicator. Applying them with your hands is so hard.”
Brooke acknowledges that her journey with lash extensions is ongoing, recognizing the addictive cycle she’s entrenched in but also appreciating the benefits. She hints at future episodes where she will explore alternative methods for achieving beautiful lashes without the extensive application process.
Brooke (100:45): “I am in the depths of this addiction cycle. I'm chasing perfection... but I will keep updating you all.”
She encourages listeners to stay tuned for upcoming interviews and beauty discussions, reinforcing the community aspect of the Naked Beauty Podcast.
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