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Hello, hello, this is Brooke Devard and you're listening to the Naked Beauty podcast. And if I sound more relaxed than normal, it's because I am coming back from a 10 day vacation in Spain. More specifically, this magical little island called Ibiza, known to locals as Ibiza. Maybe I should start saying Ibiza, but it sounds very forced. It was our 10 year wedding anniversary and it was such a magical time. This is our first trip that we took without our children. God bless them, we love them to death. But to go on a vacation and not have to ever set an alarm to wake up and do exactly what we wanted, every single day was a blessing. And I have so many thoughts. Coming back from the island, I think I learned so much about how to really feel comfortable in your skin. Spanish women were very inspiring. How to really seize every day, but also take advantage of the night. How to really just slow down and take your time. That is something that in the everyday busyness of life, we just often forget. So I'm coming back with several beauty lessons and just overall life and wellness lessons. And so for this conversation, I said, why don't I invite my husband? Frequently mentioned, rarely featured on the podcast. Umut Ozaidenli Umoud. Welcome to Naked Beauty.
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Hello. Hello.
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Okay, babe, so this was our 10 year wedding anniversary trip. What made us think collectively, because you had been to Ibiza before, what made us think like, this is where we should go for our 10 year wedding anniversary?
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For me, it's probably a combination of music and a fantastic island. Ibiza is a special place. It can be a party island if you want it to be, but it can be one of the chillest, most laid back vacation with fantastic food if you want it to be. And I think we get to do a great combination of both.
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Very well said, my love. I want to go a little bit into the history of the island because it's fascinating. Ibiza was originally settled by the phoenicians more than 2,500 years ago. And the island was valued for its salt, called white gold at the time, which was exported all across the Mediterranean. And over time, it passed through so many hands raised Romans, Moorish, Catalan, each leaving their mark on the architecture, food and traditions. Now fast forward to the 1950s and 60s. Ibiza became this magnet for artists, free spirits, bohemians from across Europe and the US Writers, painters, musicians, they all flocked there because there was a very low cost of living. And the island kind of had this anything goes attitude. You could be very free to be yourself. And Ibiza Embraced this kind of identity as this hippie haven. So. So communes sprung up, there would be drum circles on the beach, and all of these people just kind of came and flocked there for artistic expression. People like Freddie Mercury, people like Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell. It really became the place to go if you wanted to, I don't know, disconnect and tune into yourself. It's a very, I would say, like unpretentious island, if you know what I mean. There's this kind of like ease to life there and definitely a party scene. You had been before. It was my first time. When was the first time that you.
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Went, oh, my God. My first time was exactly 25 years ago. It was the last stop of my InterRail Europe trip. The class of travel, very different. I arrived to the island with a ferry, no reservations, thinking I'm going to get a hotel for myself. I ended up in someone's sofa, thankfully. But I actually haven't seen that sofa after I left for two days. Because the island, if you want it to be as a party following another party, following another party. When I was ready to leave the first club, I have been, they told me there's a sunrise party. It starts, you know, 6:30am or 7:00am or something like this. There's no way there's going to be a party. I showed up and there was people gathering up. I just thought, okay, great, let me go see it. Right after that, I was just about leaving back to the sofa. I had someone said, oh, there's a beach party, you should come. And then there was a sunset party, then repeat.
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So you partied for 24 hours?
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Pretty much.
B
Wow.
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I was 25 years younger. It's a different vibe.
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Let's talk about that. The age range. I had a whole list of topics to get to, but let's just take it organically. I want to talk about the nightlife on the island. This for me was very new. Telling someone, okay, we're going to go to a party that starts at 2am The DJ that we want to see starts at 4am Starts not ends at 4am Starts at 4am I made it out two nights, no, three nights actually. Very proud of myself for making it out three nights. But there is a totally different relationship with time on that island. So in across all of Spain, and this is common in the Middle east and in Africa, they take a siesta in the middle of the day from 2 o' clock to 5 o'. Clock. Pretty much everything stops. Shops close, restaurants close and people go home and I did some research because I was like, is everyone sleeping right now? Is everyone taking a nap? They don't necessarily take a nap, but they'll go home, they'll relax and, like, they will actually physically leave work during this time and they go home and they just, like, rest and reset. And if you're partying as hard as a lot of the people on that island are, they are actually sleeping. Right. I was asking Umu who was the dj. Black coffee. Yeah, so we saw. Yeah, there was black Coffee, Bedouin, David Guetta.
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I mean, we saw a lot of different DJs. Karlita.
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Oh, my gosh. Karlita, an incredible Turkish DJ who performed at DC10. And I've known Karlita through Umut for years, and I've always known she's this, like, big hotshot dj. And I saw her perform at, like, a Fendi Fashion Week after party, which was like, the vibe was not it. Like, the crowd was very. It was like Fendi corporate. People love, love the girls at Fendi, shout out to them, but, like, they weren't letting loose. Seeing her perform at DC10 in Ibiza was such a treat because people were going wild. Even the lights, the music, like the light show is as much of the show as the music is. It was really incredible. Now, the reason why you said I was 25 years younger, that's what made me think about talking about the nightlife. It was amazing to me to see the age ranges of people partying hard. I saw, quite honestly, people in their 60s at some of these clubs.
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Indeed. Yes. Yes. I think Ibiza is an ageless island. You know, I think people go there to feel young and careless. I think a day or so later, you actually catch the vibe of the island. It was so funny. Before we go, Brooke, start preparations and start making reservations, and I start getting this notifications, like, you know, 7:30pm reservation. 7:00pm reservation. Just like, babe, that's like, awfully too early. Like, just. What do you mean? It's dinner time? And just like, okay, I'll let you do one reservation like this, then you're gonna see.
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And yes, we ended up moving all of our reservations to 10:00pm, 10:30, 11:00pm in some instances, because, yeah, the timing of the island is just really different. But seeing people of all ages at the club was really inspiring to me. It was inspiring to me for a few reasons. One, I think I feel so reluctant to go out to a club or a party here in LA or New York because I feel like at 36, I'm going to be the oldest person in the room. That's just like, in my head. And one, I need to deconstruct that because so what if I'm the oldest person in the room? Like, what? Like, what does that matter? Like, what is that doesn't take away from your own fun or your own experience. Like, being conscious of your age relative to other people is just, like, not something that you should even concern yourself with. The other thing is just remembering how therapeutic and fun it is to just dance and listen to music and move your body. The other thing I took away from all of these clubs that for the first time in my life, you know, there's a whole joke about how Gen Z girls wear sneakers to the club. I wore sneakers to the club. Shout out to my APL running shoes. I wore black sneakers to the club multiple nights. And let me tell you, it improved my experience tenfold. Had I been wobbling in heels, I would have wanted to go home immediately.
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Haven't you wear heels first night and get destroyed?
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Yes. I wore these cute little not crazy heels, the Hermes slides. Like, the Hermes shoes. First of all, Hermes anything was a mistake because people are stepping on your feet. But, like, they were the slides with, like, the little block heel. Nothing crazy. Too much. I also wore my beautiful, like, Jean Paul Gaultier mesh outfit. And people in Europe smoke indoors. I forgot about that. So I was like, honestly, it was too much. I was like, I need to dry clean everything. I need to wash my hair. There was just a lot of, like, cigarette smoke.
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My usual treatment once we are back from the nightclub was, I'm gonna jump on the pool for a quick second and I'm like, gonna stay underwater for as long as I can. Because you come back really, like, you know, feeling like, oh, am I an ashtray?
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Yeah, I know. And that. And that, let's be honest about it, is not a great part of it, but everything else about it is good. And you kind of like. Not that you adjust to the smoke smell, but you can go to different areas of the section to, like, escape from that. Now, I don't want to flex too much, but every night we went out, we were in the DJ booth, weren't we? Was there a single night we were in Gen Pop. No vip, no backstage.
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Luckily, we have good friends. And luckily we were in the right place at the right time.
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Yeah, yeah. So not my connections all through umoud, but it felt very cool to, like, kind of be behind the booth. And it also gave me the DJ's perspective. And I asked Umood, I Was like all these DJs, you know, do they have a God complex? Because you just see hundreds of people physically below you. Right. Because the DJ stage is elevated and they just have their hands up. Their eyes are just huge staring at you and they are like praising you like you're some sort of a God. I was like, this is like not a normal audience to performer dynamic.
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I think when you look at the performing art, be it you're performing like for in a festival or a dj, that is the drug that gets most people addicted to being on the stage.
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Yeah, yeah. I'm sure that performers listening to this can relate. I know you don't like being asked questions on the spot. The this is easy though. I'm just going to ask you to rank our hotels 1 through 10 and then maybe some restaurants as well. Okay. Our first hotel stay, the Soho Farmhouse in Ibiza. This is the newest Soho House. I believe they opened it less than a year ago in Ibiza. What would you rate it, 1 through 10?
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I think that would be like 8 for me. Definitely love the place. Especially. I don't know if your audience knows, but recently, last two, three years, I'm into gardening a lot. We have a mini orchard. We have like 30 or so fruit trees, a lot of plants. And the farmhouse was really converted from a farm. So everything around it is like they grow their own vegetables. It's farm to table, but also fantastic landscape. And I was just like taking pictures and taking those. Oh, this is how they did this. I should really replicate that. So that was not just the stay but also the farm aspect of it was really connecting with me.
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Okay, the next hotel, the Petunia Hotel.
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Petunia Hotel was very special because it has this view of one of the best views in the island for Esvedra, which is a magical rock that is very close to Ibiza. They believe it has supernatural powers. And fun fact about Esvedra is once I actually tried to do a movie about it. We didn't get to the finish line, but it's a very special, almost spiritual part of the island. And we had unobstructed amazing views of it, which was very special. And as Bonas and Petunia, the restaurant, we didn't even know, but it turned out to be a Michelin star restaurant. One night we just stopped by. Oh, we are too tired to eat. And it was phenomenal.
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Yes. I will also say on the restaurant tip, if you want to go to one restaurant in Ibiza, go to Sacapella. The most beautiful, romantic, incredible food just phenomenal. 10 out of 10. Okay. And then I was going to say rate the last hotel, but it wasn't a hotel, it was an Airbnb. Thoughts on the Airbnb, the incredible villa we got to end our vacation on?
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Yeah. I think one of the professional ways to do Ibiza is to get a villa or a house that you can actually catch the islands vibe. And I think we were so lucky that we find this Airbnb that had the pool and phenomenal views of the Ibiza town. So we were very lucky.
B
Okay, I want to get into some of the beauty lessons I gathered from this trip. Beauty and just lifestyle, self care lessons. Umut tried to go away when I said beauty lessons. Actually, I want to hear from you. Did you feel beautiful on this trip?
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Hmm, yes. It was just like, I feel beautiful on this trip.
B
Why is that? Why do men really have a hard time with the word beautiful?
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I don't know, because I don't think we like necessarily were taught to be beautiful.
B
Right. But I always tell you that you're beautiful and that you're handsome.
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Yes. Thank you.
B
I think Umut felt very well rested on this trip. Our first night, you have to remember, we have a nine month old baby. We do not get a lot of sleep. He showed me his Oura ring and he was like, this is my Oura ring set. I've had the best sleep in the past, like year of my life. Like, he was so happy about the sleep that we were getting. But I think I was very inspired by seeing Spanish women. And I would pay attention because there are a lot of tourists in Ibiza, but I would pay attention to, okay, like, who are the Europeans here? Who are the British people here? Who are the Americans? But who are the people that you can tell are like local and they're just here for a holiday. They love the sun. There's a huge beach culture. But I did notice a lot of sun protection. Of course there are the people that lay out and those people always stress me out that just like lay out in the sun with tanning oil on. Oh my God. That's like my biggest trigger when I'm on vacation. But I see a lot of great sun protection, a lot of shawls, a lot of hats. I did notice we went to like a real local beach one day, not one of like the fancy beach clubs, but like a true local beach. Every woman maybe with like the exception of a few all ages, from children to elderly women, were all topless or naked. Remember that, babe?
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Yeah.
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It wasn't even sexual, you know, it was just like they were just all naked because they were at the beach. And I thought about it, I was like, great for tan lines, right? Like you don't have any tan lines. You just get to be, you don't have to deal with like a tricky swimsuit and adjusting it so you don't get these tan lines. And it was just, there was just something so cool about seeing women of all ages in this public setting of the beach just like nude or topless. And it was just like, it kind of struck me how non sexual it was. I also had a big lesson on this trip just with like not fighting the elements with my hair. I went swimming every single day. I, I brought a flat iron. I don't know why I brought a flat iron. That was like so futile. I did braid outs every day with mousse and my hair just got bigger and bigger and bigger. Especially this kinky straight texture I have in now. It just blends, gets big and I just leaned into it. One of the final two memories that I want to end on. You know what, we're going to talk about your favorite day of the vacation and then my favorite day of the vacation. You know what my favorite day of the vacation was?
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Shopping.
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Oh my gosh, I loved shopping. And this is why you know people. When we did our post about like 10 years married people were like, what's the secret to a long marriage? And I think some of it is this. Know your partner, know their strengths, know their interests. I, I am a shop. I am like a start at 9am, end at 10pm shopper. Like I can shop all day long. My, my husband, my dear husband, love him to death. He can do like a Good, you know, 30 minutes and then he's honestly over it. He said, you go run around like a hamster on a wheel in the town center and just shop, shop, shop and have the time of your life. And I'm going to go to the beach. And that was a great shopping day because I really had my freedom to spread my wings. Go to every shop. I discovered incredible archival vintage shops in Ibiza. Ibiza has incredible shopping. Now listen to this. If you're going to Ibiza, there's a shop. It's like not even on Google Maps. They don't have a website. It's very low tech. It is called NYC Archive. It's in Ibiza. It's across the street from Carhartt. They have the most incredible selection of designer clothes, unworn, but that go back to 2005, they have a big, massive shop that's, like, popular, and nothing ever goes on sale there. It's like. It's like this shop goes back. I think it opened in 1989 or 1979 in Ibiza. The shop has been around for many, many, many years. And they have all of the designer brands. Dolce and Gabbana, Alexander McQueen, right at the main shop. Anything that does not get sold at that shop goes to this other shop. And they just have years and years of archives. I found Donna Karan collection new with tags unworn from like, 2008, 2009. Hussain Shalane, who is so hard to find. They had Erdem, they had Chloe, they had Phoebe, Philo, Ara, Celine. Understand? I literally. I remember Umu called me when I was at the shop and I said, I'm shaking right now. He was like, what's wrong? What's going on? I said, I'm shaking. I was like, this shop that I'm in, I feel like I've walked into Barney's in 2007. Like, these are prices that I have not seen in honestly, a decade plus reasonable prices on designer. And then everything on top of that was an additional 60% off. I lost my mind. They had Pucci, they had Givenchy. Who else did they have? Roberto Cavalli. Gorgeous Roberto Cavalli dresses. Emmanuel Ungaro. So much Dolce and Gabbana. I mean, they had incredible, incredible stuff. So I was. That was actually probably the best shopping experience I've had in maybe 10 years. That was not my favorite day, though. It was the best shopping I've had. But my favorite day. You know what my favorite day was?
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The boat.
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No, that was your favorite day. What was my favorite day?
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Jandal.
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Yes. Jean Dal.
A
You take Jean Dal over shopping.
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I'm shocked because I was with you, my love, in shopping. I was alone. Okay. I love John Dahl. This is a beach club in Ibiza that everyone said, okay, if you do one thing, you have to go to this beach club. It came up on every single list. And I was like, okay, how? And then we tried to get a reservation and we saw how hard it was. My husband came through. I was like, are we gonna get a spot? He came through as he always does. And it's just this lovely beach club where you can truly have a three hour meal. And, like, no one blinks, no one rushes you through the meal. It's like, you just sit, you look at the view, you're on the water. Jacques Mousse designed all of the sunbeds. There's a Jacques mousse shop as well. It's just so elevated. It's so beautiful. Didn't you think John Dahl was incredible?
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John Dal was perfection. It's on the pricier side. Many things in the island is very pricey, but well worth it. It was an amazing long lunch beach day.
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Yes, it was very nice. And then your favorite day, we took a boat from Ibiza to a small island called Formentera. And. And we literally went to this. It's like you dock your boat and then you swim, like, 50ft and you're on this private island. It is the most incredible thing ever. And you brought DJ equipment on the boat, so you got to spin and play music as we were, like, jetting down the sea.
A
Yeah. The original idea was we were going to invite. We actually invited few friends who were in the island. So I got this company to bring, like, a professional grade DJ set to the boat. Obviously, what happens in the island. Our departure time is 12. As we get closer to 12, people are just like, I'm so hangover from the previous night. I couldn't. I'm not gonna make it. So it ended up being a party boat day for just two of us, which was phenomenal. But the original idea was we were supposed to have a bunch of friends with us.
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Yeah. But honestly, the way it worked out, it was so much fun, just us on this boat. Um, dj'd, and we watched sunset together. It was just so romantic, Perfect. So fun.
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And. And I recorded the set. So that set is coming to SoundCloud very soon.
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Oh, okay. Yeah, let's play. I'm gonna. I'm gonna link to your SoundCloud in this show description. People don't really understand how great your SoundCloud is. Like, you do great. He does great DJ sets. I also just need to do a personal plug for my fragrance because I brought other fragrances on this trip, and I just kept reaching for Naked Beauty time and time again, and it felt like the perfect setting for Naked Beauty. It just made me feel really sexy and beautiful and just like the best version of myself. And I know I made it, but I'm just very proud of the Naked Beauty fragrance. And, um, it wore it too a few nights. It's like a. It really is a great unisex scent for me.
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It's a great daytime fragrance. It, like, makes you feel fresh and amazing.
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Yes. Thank you for that endorsement, my love. I want to wrap up with a few final questions about just, like, how it felt. So now we're back in la. I think we need to be honest with my listeners about one thing. How much did we miss our children? I mean, we were, like, watching our nanit. That's like the camera in Jade's room. My parents were here watching them. We were FaceTiming. We would, like, literally be like, back from the club. Like, do you think they're awake? Let's try to call them.
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Yeah, it was phenomenal to take a little break from kids and be a couple for a couple days. It was very special. But I think by the third, fourth day, we were just like, yeah, you remember? We start showing each other pictures. Yeah, this is Mommy doing this and that. So, like, you know, I guess we got very boring parents very quickly, but, you know. Yeah, we missed our kids a lot.
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We miss them so much now, that being said, I would do it all again, wouldn't you?
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150.
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But it is nice, I would say, for parents listening to this, try to. If, if, if family members can watch your kids, if you can just take some time with your partner, just you two, and just, like, live life how you did before you had kids. It's a very special experience and I think after 10 years of marriage, we deserve it.
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Yes, indeed. I think it was. It's interesting. Like, we are always love and in love and considering everything. Like, we are, you know, very happy. What do you mean, considering everything that didn't come out? We are, generally speaking.
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What does that mean, generally speaking?
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What I was trying to say, we are a happy couple, but being able to be single couple. I don't know, like the right word for it, but, like, you know, kid free. Yeah, kid free for a week. I think we get to connect deeper the way we were before the kids, which was great. We still miss the kids and we are very happy to be back for the kids, but I think it was very special to be careless and just be us for a week.
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Exactly, exactly. And it's like you just don't even realize as parents how many restrictions you have on your fun. Like, you can't. You can go out and have a babysitter and you can, like, drink and party, but, like, if you're hungover, you still gotta wake up with those kids in the morning. Right? Like, one day we Woke up at 2:00'. Clock. Do you remember that day when I was like, what time is it? And you were like, it's two o'. Clock. And I was like, what? But it's because we had been out the whole night before and we didn't have anywhere to be. So it was fine that we slept in. So, yeah, I think that that's just like, it's really nice to be carefree, and it was different for us. Okay, I'm not going to ask you your secret to 10 years of happy marriage, but I am going to ask you a fun question.
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I can answer that.
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Okay, tell me your answer. What is your secret for 10 years of marriage?
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I don't think I can give a comprehensive handbook of everything a couple should do to be happy, but I think listening each other and making each other dreams, your dreams is a good starting point. I recently started DJing. I'm in the beginning of the journey, but I know you share my passion and you always encourage me, even sometimes that, like, I don't really want to post it on the, you know, soundcloud. You have to. And that that encouragement goes, I think, really far.
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And you always supported me with the podcast from the very beginning. You have been the one to say, like, turn this podcast to a business. This is like, your passion. You're so great at it. Continue building your community. You have been Naked Beauty's number one supporter from day one.
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Thank you for that. I think all my life I am involved with talent for brands, and when I see a real talent, I can spot it from miles away.
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Oh, well, thank you, love. So I wasn't gonna ask your. Your advice for 10 years, but I love that. What did you say? You said, make your partner's dreams your dreams.
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Listen to your partner as much as you can and make their dreams your dreams. I think that's a good starting point.
B
I love that advice. That's beautiful advice. And I wasn't gonna ask you the ten year advice. I was gonna say, do you remember me on our wedding day 10 years ago? And what do you remember? Of course.
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So everyone tells you on your wedding day, oh, it's going to be the happiest day of your life. It's going to go so fast. And I always thought to myself, like, they certainly don't know about my life. It's going to be a happy day. But not sure it's going to be the happiest day. But the wedding day arrived and the energy was so special. Everyone that loves us, around us, and you are so beautiful and almost angelic. The following day, we woke up and we actually walked to this monastery on top of the hill.
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We were in Tuscany.
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In Tuscany, where we married. And I thought to myself, wow, that could be the happiest day of my life.
B
Aw. That's so sweet. I remember it very well. It was one of the happiest days of my life.
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Not the happiest.
B
Not the happiest because I have the birth of our children to consider in the mix now. Right? True. As a woman, you carry for nine months and then when you finally hold that baby in your arms, you just feel, like, so happy you could ascend into another stratosphere. But between the birth of our children and our wedding day, those are the happiest moments. And I think our kids and our love for our children is a reflection of our love for each other. We just have the sweetest, most kind, thoughtful, good hearted children. Certainly Mavi, who we can really just see his beautiful heart and spirit. And Jade, even though she's so young, I feel like I can feel her beautiful spirit already. And I think that's because of you and, like, your great parenting and I would hope me as well on parenting.
A
You're really the lead and I really believe you are one of the best moms in the planet.
B
Aw. What do you think makes me a good mom?
A
Well, I love the child in you more than anything, and I think the child in you makes you an amazing mom because you are their best friend.
B
Well, yeah, I love to play little games. Like, I can literally go game for game with Mavi all day. And I just love, like, just, yeah, crawling around laughing. That's the fun part of being a parent. So, honestly, a trip for the memory books, one we're going to remember forever, right? I mean, we're probably going to be in our, like, 80s and 90s being, like, remember that time we went to.
A
Ibiza and we had to start going more often? I really, I've been to Ibiza many times. Not. But not with you. And I enjoyed the island the most with you. So we have to go back.
B
We have to go back. What is your number one lesson you've taken from our time on the island and these beautiful 10 days together? What's your number one thing that you're taking away from that trip?
A
I think we have to make more time for very long, leisurely lunches that we don't have to go anywhere and just, like, enjoy a bottle of wine and some great food and good company without rushing to the next place.
B
Where are the kids in this long, leisurely lunch scenario that we need to.
A
Address over time for the nanny?
B
I love that idea. I love the idea of hiring a babysitter or nanny to just be here at the house so you and I can have a very long leisurely lunch together. That's very aspirational. My takeaway is very similar. Like just to savor the time that you have. Really let's a day unfold, sit and watch the sunset. We're going into October, which is so hard to believe. But like we need to cherish and savor these last moments of the year. Time can go by so fast unless you take time to reset, really absorb and enjoy. And I'll just say the other thing is the partner in your life, a person in your life. It could be a best friend even taking time to just enjoy and appreciate them. You know, like putting the phones down and having like good quality time with people that you care about. That's really what life is about, right? Like spending quality time with people you.
A
Love, good company, good food and good music.
B
Yes, that's. That's actually the perfect summary of our trip. Well, thank you all so much for listening. Umu, thank you for joining Naked Beauty. Honored.
A
Thanks for having me. It's my honor to join a podcast that I follow weekly.
B
Yes, thank you for your continued support and thank you all so much for listening. I will be back next week with a new episode.
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Host: Brooke DeVard Ozaydinli
Guest: Umut Ozaydinli
Date: September 29, 2025
Brooke DeVard celebrates her 10-year wedding anniversary with husband Umut Ozaydinli on the magical island of Ibiza. In this intimate and lively episode, the couple reflects on their child-free romantic getaway, sharing cultural observations, beauty lessons, self-care insights, and relationship wisdom. The conversation weaves together candid stories, practical tips, and uplifting moments, blending travelogue with heartfelt discussion on aging, beauty, marriage, and savoring life.
“It can be a party island if you want it to be, but it can be one of the chillest, most laid back vacations with fantastic food…” (01:35, Umut)
“Ibiza embraced this identity as this hippie haven...if you wanted to disconnect and tune into yourself.” (02:38, Brooke)
“Ibiza is an ageless island…people go there to feel young and careless.” (06:25, Umut) “Being conscious of your age relative to other people is just, like, not something that you should even concern yourself with.” (07:28, Brooke)
“You just see hundreds of people physically below you…they are, like, praising you like you’re some sort of god.” (09:41, Brooke) “That is the drug that gets most people addicted to being on the stage.” (10:12, Umut)
“I tried to do a movie about [Es Vedrà]…almost spiritual part of the island.” (11:38, Umut)
“It wasn’t even sexual…there was just something so cool about seeing women of all ages…just nude or topless.” (14:48, Brooke)
“I feel like I’ve walked into Barney’s in 2007…” (17:33, Brooke)
“No one rushes you…you just sit, you look at the view, you’re on the water.” (18:34, Brooke)
“Ended up being a party boat day for just two of us, which was phenomenal.” (19:52, Umut)
“Listening to each other and making each other’s dreams your dreams is a good starting point.” (24:13, Umut) “You always supported me with the podcast … you have been Naked Beauty’s number one supporter from day one.” (24:44, Brooke)
“We have to make more time for very long, leisurely lunches…” (28:13, Umut) “Putting the phones down and having quality time with people that you care about…that’s really what life is about.” (29:13, Brooke)
On Aging and Nightlife:
“So what if I’m the oldest person in the room? What does that matter? That doesn’t take away from your own fun or experience.”
(07:11, Brooke)
On Body Positivity and Topless Beaches:
“It wasn’t even sexual … there was just something so cool about seeing women of all ages … just nude or topless.”
(14:48, Brooke)
On Marriage Success:
“Listening to each other and making each other’s dreams your dreams is a good starting point.”
(24:13, Umut)
On Parenting Support:
“I love the child in you more than anything, and I think the child in you makes you an amazing mom because you are their best friend.”
(27:20, Umut)
On Living Well:
“My takeaway is…just to savor the time that you have. Let a day unfold, sit and watch the sunset ... putting the phones down and having quality time with people you care about. That’s really what life is about.”
(29:05, Brooke)
| Segment | Timestamp | |--------------------------------------------------------------|------------| | Introduction & Why Ibiza? | 00:08–01:58| | Ibiza’s History & Bohemian Culture | 01:58–03:11| | Nightlife Insights & Ageless Partygoers | 03:11–08:19| | DJ Booth Adventures & Performance Reflections | 09:11–10:26| | Hotel/Restaurant Reviews & Experiences | 10:26–12:42| | Beauty, Body, and Self-Care Lessons | 13:01–15:47| | Shopping & Favorite Vacation Spots | 15:47–20:40| | The Naked Beauty Fragrance Plug | 20:40–21:17| | Reflecting on Marriage & Parenting | 21:22–27:50| | Life Lessons & Final Takeaways | 28:01–29:33|
The conversation is joyful, candid, humorous, and deeply appreciative, reflecting both the excitement of a vacation and the depth of a decade-long relationship. Brooke’s signature warmth, curiosity, and sincerity shine through, with Umut’s thoughtful, lighthearted responses adding charm and authenticity.
This episode is a vibrant blend of travel insights, self-care wisdom, relationship goals, and unapologetic celebration of life’s pleasures—perfect for anyone seeking inspiration to embrace beauty, intimacy, and adventure at any age.