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What would you do to get to me? What would you say to have your way?
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Would you give up? Hello, hello, this is Brooke Devard. You're listening to the Naked Beauty Podcast. I am joined by Scott Evans. I am so excited to have you on the show.
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So excited to be here.
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In addition to being beautiful, you have quite the impressive career. So I'm going to read a little bit of your bio.
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Okay.
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Scott Evans is an Emmy award nominated entertainment journalist and host. His career started as the youngest on air MC for the Indiana Pacers and the Indiana Fever. He currently hosts NBCUniversal's nationally syndicated entertainment news show Access Hollywood and the talk show Access Daily with Mario and Kit. Okay. Scott connects us to the biggest stars in the world through his sense of humor, magnetic personality, and of course, his signature locks. But I know Scott from your own show, House Guest, where you interview incredible people like Cynthia Erivo. Who else have I seen on there?
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Somebody Money Long Chloe Bailey, Bailey Diggs.
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Who's the comedian who I love? Who?
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Kevon Stage.
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Kevon Stage.
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Kevin Fredericks. Oh, my God. He was our first episode.
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That was the episode. Hearing him talk about the Hailey Bieber smoothie with you.
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To this day, people are still hitting me up talking about this the first time they've flown to California. And one of the things they needed to do was go to Irwan to get this movie. I'll never forget.
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Erewhon needs to cut you guys a check.
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Hello. For the people in the back. I'll never forget Jason Kennedy, a friend of mine from E. News and Today's show. We were talking about what we were doing and I hadn't launched the show yet and I was telling him about doing the show and we had this great conversation with Kevin and then he saw it and he was with Justin and Haley. He showed it to them and they were like, oh my God, this is amazing. And so then she's like following it on social media.
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Amazing.
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And like actually showing love to the, the, the episode. It was unreal. So we've got an ask out to her once everything is settled with the baby.
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Yes. You've got to get Haley on the.
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Show to come to the show and make the smoothie with me.
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Perfect.
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Right?
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That needs to happen. Yeah, that needs to happen.
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But Kevin helped us set the. The tone of what the House Guest episode should feel like. What at its peak energy, what it can feel, what we could do, what how it would move, how it would feel. And forever indebted to him for that.
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Yes. Well, and I'd Seen you on E. Before, but I really got to know you and your personality through the Houseguests show. And just for me as a podcaster, I immediately just was like, okay, I need. How is this show working? Who's producing it? Who's behind it? Cause it looks so high budget. And then once I found out you were doing it all on your own, I was like, wait, this is amazing.
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Yeah, me and my partner. There's two people. I mean really, it's three people. It's me and my partner. And then my former assistant was helping us with like the day to day, like the heavy lift of like PA Work. Do you know what I mean? He really was helping us make sure that we had what we needed as far as the props and, and, and helping us like run through game formats and stuff like that. And so really, I mean, it has been an effort of a very, very, very small team. My partner Dale does like, he does everything from the filming to the editing segment, producing. One point he was booking. I mean it's, it is a lot of work.
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It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work.
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Social media.
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I, I know how much work it takes just to run Naked Beauty and put out a new episode every week.
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But the award winning.
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Yes, thank you very much. Thank you, thank you.
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That part.
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But I think also like when you work at places like you've worked with Peacock, you've worked with the big engines and sometimes I feel like it can almost be like discouraging because you. So I feel like there are two entry points. There's like people that have been in traditional media that are like, okay, I'm going to go off and do something on my own. But a lot of people have that naivete of like, I don't know what it takes. I'm just going to go out and do it. But you knew what it takes to create a show with eyeballs and you're. I know Some of your YouTube views are more highly watched than things that are on nationally syndicated television because TV numbers are not what they used to be.
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It's true.
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But for you to say, I'm going to do this on my own, even knowing how much it takes to create even just like a half hour show.
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Yeah, I mean the idea there was that the show was really bred born out of this idea that there was something really missing in the space. Right. That whatever's happening on digital, there was something missing in the idea that. Or in the execution of joy centered programming. But that still had, like, real grit, real honesty, authenticity, and depth. Right. And so to be able to have these conversations with Cynthia Erivo that talk about, like, the way you're supposed to eat a kiwi, you know what I mean? But then also talk about what it is like to be moving through this period of her life, the incredible highs of this, and how she also manages those silent moments that can feel like a vacuum in the space. Right. And so it's been a really beautiful affirmation that what is important to me, what. What I want to see, what I feel is lacking, what I. What I know is important to me and how I operate, that it resonates with other people in a very same way. And that's why they're sharing and commenting and engaging and following and subscribing. Like, it's crazy. Like, there's so much you think about when you're launching a show, you're launching a digital experience or even your own Instagram page. Right? There's so much you think about, and there's so much you don't ever really think about. Like, I never thought about the fact that once we put it out, then people would have to, like, watch it. And what I mean by that is, like, they'd have to, like, subscribe. They'd have to go find it. We'd have to tell them about it. They'd have to go log on to YouTube. And so it's been a really beautiful reminder that, like, I'm not crazy. You know what I mean? And that I have a real skill in this space and that people want what we're creating.
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Absolutely.
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It's been a wild ride. And the Webby nomination. Yes.
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Congratulations.
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Within the first year is, like, what? We're nominated against TED Talk, like, for real.
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Right. That's amazing.
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What? That's crazy.
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Yes.
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Yeah. But, like, I'll take it. So if you haven't voted already, go do that link in my bio on Instagram. I am Scott Evans. You know what I'm saying?
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I finished watching Number one on the call sheet this morning. Have you watched?
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I have not. Okay. So I'm telling you, it's. It is literally in my queue.
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Okay.
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For this afternoon or tomorrow morning, because I can. I just can. You are the third person in the span of 24 hours that has talked about it. I can't wait any longer.
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Please text me after you watch it. I watched part one, which is about black men in Hollywood. But one of the things that continues to come up is they say that this recognition that this industry was not built with them in mind. And so you hear from people like Kevin Hart and the Rock and Will Smith who have built production companies and have built structure where there was no structure so that they could do the types of things they wanted to do in Hollywood. And that's. And thinking about the lane that you've built for yourself, it's like you kind of have to go out and build it on your own. That's what I've done with my show, too.
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Exactly. I mean, you know, more than. Than most. Like, the idea is if you don't see it, then you should be creating it.
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Right.
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Like, if you want it, but you don't see it, then create it. Create it.
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Yes.
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And like, step in the power of that, step in the truth of that, and you can do it. You maybe can't do it alone. You probably shouldn't do it alone. But if you have to start alone, start. You know what I mean? If that's. If that's what it's going to take in order for you to. To begin, then do what you got to do. I mean, I think I. I was listening to you say not too long ago that the idea of what. What needs to be create out, and the creation doesn't care who it moves through in order to get out. So if you aren't going to create it, it's going to move on to someone else going to do it.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean? And so why not you. Why not get out here and get after it?
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Let's go all the way back to Indiana, by the way.
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Wait. You look fantastic. What is happening?
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Thank you.
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Dress.
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This is just like easy Lounge. I actually got this when I was pregnant.
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And I'm into it.
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Yes. It's very, very.
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I am into it. Yes.
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If you're. If you're listening and you're not watching on YouTube, go on. Go to the Naked Beauty podcast. YouTube.
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And so you can get into this whole situation.
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Indiana. So I didn't know that your background started in sports.
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Yeah.
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Which is like so different from celebrity comedy. Yeah, yeah.
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Or Hard news. So first, when I was in Indianapolis, we started up a television show. The group I was in this youth development program through Indiana Black Expo, which was like the precursor to Essence Festival.
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Okay.
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Right. So this organization, this nonprofit organization in Indianapolis, started a youth development program called YVI Youth Video Institute. And so we learned the basics of video production and we created our own show called 360 degrees.
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Okay.
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That aired on the MTV2 affiliate in Indianapolis.
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Wow.
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And so like, we were celebs in our own right. Like, we had a TV show on Indianapolis, like, and we were, like, traveling the the state covering stories, everything from teen homelessness to dating to college to sex. We did, like, a live demonstration about protection during, like, with sex. Like, this young show about, like, how do you have these conversations? Who do you talk to about these things? And there is where I really learned that, like, I had a skill for connecting with people and, like, getting them to share with me things that they wouldn't or haven't otherwise shared. One of my first interviews for the show, big interviews, was Erykah Badu. And after her concert, we sat down on the floor in her dressing room, and she was like. She stopped me in the middle of the interview, and she was like, I need you to know something. What you're doing, the way that you're doing this, your approach at. I don't know how old you are. And I was like, 16. She was like, your. Your approach. You need to protect this.
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Wow.
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Because if you're able to. To. To grow this and develop this, you are going to do things in your life that you don't even see. See yet. And I can see flashes of it right now. And I was like, I don't know what that means, but thank you. Right. That's incredible.
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I mean, to have Erica Badu speak life into you that way at such a young age. Wow, that's incredible.
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It was unreal, unreal. And so, like, it exchanged her mother's and, I think, an aunt's information with me in Texas and was like, when you come to Texas, you come to the house. I was like, when are we going to Texas? It was an unreal experience, but that prepared me quite a bit for the other things in my life that would come sometime after it. Right. And so starting at sports in Indianapolis with the Pacers, that job, I was live. I was on the court in the field house, every game, every home game. And you're live with a live audience.
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Yeah.
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And you're the action of the game when the game stops. And so you have to keep people engaged. You have to reengage them, and you got to energize them. And so I learned also the power of, like, what you can do in 45 seconds.
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Yes.
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What you can do in two minutes.
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Right. So doing. Doing a TikTok, doing a quick voiceover. That's nothing for you, maybe.
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Let's get it.
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Yeah. Right. I'm ready.
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I'm down.
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It reminds me of that, you know, that Steve Jobs quote where he always says, like, like you can connect the dots backwards, but you can't connect them forward. Meaning, like, you go through things, you don't know why they're happening to you. Then you reach a point in your career where you're like, oh, this is why I did that.
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Absolutely.
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I want to hear about your early experiences with beauty. What were you like in high school? Did you feel attractive? What, what, what was the Indianapolis scene like?
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Okay, so I had gnarly teeth.
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Okay? Your teeth are beautiful.
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I had braces and still got Invisalign today.
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Okay?
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I have brace. Braces for 137 years in high school. Do you know what I mean? And like, literally from I think my junior year of high school through freshman year of college, I had braces, okay? And so before I had them, was very self conscious about my smile and never really felt like I was like cute or attractive in that sort of way. I knew that my personality was winning. I knew that I was. I knew I could get you to laugh and I knew if I could get you to laugh, we were on. Right? But no, I didn't. I didn't really feel I knew. And I also had like a really interesting way of expressing myself through clothes. Like I did.
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How were you dressing?
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Oh, my God. I wore. I mean, I had puka shell necklaces, okay. But I also wore tall tees. I liked a high waisted, High waisted pan. Like I was mixing all kinds of stuff. Thrift shop, fat farm.
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Yeah, but you were. It sounds like you were ahead of your time, especially in Indianapolis. I feel like it's a very. Or maybe my perception of the Midwest is wrong, but I would imagine it's like a little bit safe.
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I bet you're right. Yeah, I bet whatever your perception is exactly it, you know, we're the buckle of the Bible belt, you know what I'm saying? You know.
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Did your parents encourage self expression?
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Yeah, my mom was. My. My mom took me to get my ear pierced when I was eight.
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Okay, mom.
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And I remember going to my first basketball practice that day and my uncle Bill, her brother, was my basketball coach. And he was like, what is in your ear? I was like, the earring. He was like, take it out. I was like, I can't. I just got it. He's like, take it out. I was like, I literally, I cannot. I just got it. He said, well, go sit down. I was like, well, I. The thing I do not care about is this basketball practice, right? This earring is staying here. Do you see how good this earring looks priority, you know what I mean? So, yeah, I mean, my mom was pretty open to and I think encouraged me to express myself in whatever way I saw fit. Really. You know what I mean? I was a pretty sharp dresser from a kid. Like, she dressed me pretty sharply. I remember I was in the third grade and I had a pair. It's so funny, I'm wearing them right now and telling you this, this experience. But second or third grade, I had a silk shirt, a pair of white jeans, and cowboy boots that I wanted to wear every day.
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Okay. This is a look, you know, you need to bring this vibe to Cowboy Carter.
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You already when I tell you that it's literally my. My character is me in second grade for Cowboy Carter. That's my vibe 100%. Like, I. It was a really. I remember this time because I was like, this is just what I. I feel strong in this. And I don't know why, but like, in the eighth grade, seventh grade, I want. I permed my hair.
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Oh, wow.
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And had like the big deep waves in my hair, right? And I remember the first day I came to school, everybody was like. The guys in particular were like, what is going on with this? But I'm not kidding you. Within two weeks, almost every dude in our class had the same hairstyle.
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Trendsetter.
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Like, no joke. And I remember my mom tells this story. Like, I. She remembers me also saying that I wanted to dye it. I wanted to dye it silver, like Cisco. I don't remember that. I don't remember going that far. But I do. I do remember having the perm, and I do remember feeling myself because the waves were so deep and my hair was so dark that it stood out quite a bit.
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So you understood the power of beauty and self expression at an early age. It sounds like.
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Yeah. I mean, my mom was like. We were in. My mom was 20 when she had me. So we were like. We grew up together, right? So cross colors and baby fat and coogee Carl Kanai, Dapper Dan. These were. These were labels, these were. This was fashion that my mom was wearing. And it was also like, it seemed, it felt like deeply rooted in, like blackness too. Right. And so, yeah, like, I was all about it and we had all of it. Like, I had. I had a money green suit that I wore for picture day. It was like a sagey kind of money, like a sagey green. And I knew I looked good. I knew I looked good. My kindergarten foam is so. This is so crazy to remember all this right now. My kindergarten photo, like, class photo, school picture. I wore a blue button down with a navy tie.
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Okay.
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I had an S curl, but high top box. I need the visuals and the line part.
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Wow. You know, it's so interesting when you're young celebrities that you see, you mentioned Cisco, Cross colors, all of that stuff. I can remember growing up watching trl, watching Eve, watching the Fashion Police, Joan Rivers, hearing what she thought looked good, what didn't look good, what's in, what's out. Now you're kind of, I mean, you. Not kind of. You are a very big part of pop culture being translated to places like the Midwest. Right. For people that don't live in New York and la, You're. You're translating, you're breaking it down. You're helping people, you know, see this glimpse of Hollywood and style. How do you, as a black man, make sure that you are representing for our people when you're in those spaces?
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It's so funny because I think I used to really think about, how am I going to represent? Like, how can I. What can I do to show and to ensure that people know and feel that we are in the space? And then I think I had to remember that, like, I can't not like me being in the space literally is a stark reminder. It is like a real big flag in the room. They're like, yeah, we belong here too, right? But I remember. I remember 2020, we did an interview with a young man who was playing football for his high school varsity player, excellent football player, excellent, even better student. And he was being told by his school administration that he was not going to be allowed to participate in graduation if he didn't cut his locks. And I think, if I remember correctly, he was the guest of Dwyane Wade and Gabrielle Union for their animated short hair love. Yes, they were nominated for an Oscar. So we were. I was interviewing him, we were getting ready for the Oscars with him. And I said, what do you think this is? What do you think this is about? Why do you think this is happening in your town, in your school, in your life? And he said, I, to be honest with you, I don't have anybody to point to. Like, they're saying that it's not well groomed, that it's. It doesn't represent their, their core ethos and like, their vision for what a student should look like, what professionalism looks like. I don't have anybody that I can point to to say he is professional.
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And he is.
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He has locks outside of an athlete. And I Was like, damn. And I remember how much I wanted to lock my hair. For years, I wanted to lock my hair. And I was always told by managers, agents, friends, siblings, confidants, whatever, that it was almost a sure thing, was career suicide, right? If I were to lock my hair, I would almost guarantee that I would not be able to take advantage of certain positions, certain jobs, or even lose my job, right? And so I thought, how sad that is. And then I also believed that. And that also may have even been true. And then I was watching the video, through tears of people affected, sharing their. The impact of watching who. Watching George Floyd be murdered, and that his humanity was the thing that was not present in the center of this crime, that he somehow was not human enough. He was not enough. And so I was just like, okay, so we have all of this conversation around what blackness is, how we own it, how we. How we live it, how we show it, how we love on ourselves, right? And I was like, it's time to lock your hair. It's time to lock your hair. And, like, it's time to lock it. And I thought about that young man, and I was like, he's going to at least be able to point to me.
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Wow.
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He's going to at least be able to point to me. And I went and got my hair locked, and I thought I had enough hair to go past the awkward phase. And y'all, I walked literally face first into the awkward phase. And like, you know, when you're growing your locks and they're short, you kind of get a little bit of time to figure out where they're going to lay, how they're going to lay. You can groom them in a certain. Y'all, it was too much hair. All at one time. I. Those first. That first year of locs, baby, I was like, I don't know if this was the right choice, but now, I mean, I like, it has become such a good. I think mission accomplished.
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Yes. Your locs are gorgeous, and I love the length they're at now, and I love the. Just the way that you style them.
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Thank you.
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Did you have people that you looked to for your kind of vision board of how you wanted your locks to behave and how you wanted them to look?
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MAXINE Shaw, ATTORNEY AT LAW. Okay, that's with her. Bob is. I was like, I want that. And there was something about it that seemed, like, modern. There was something about it that seemed like me. You know what I mean? There was something about it that also seemed to be masculine in a way that Wasn't, like, so aggressive. And also, I wanted to have a bob. Yeah. To be honest, I get it. Bobanna Bob, Yanna, who don't want a bob. A bossy bob. Are you kidding?
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There's just something about it. There's something about it being on tv, I think you were very. You know, it sounds like your path was really through journalism, wanting to tell stories, but there is a very superficial element to TV where you've got to look good. That's just. It's part of the job.
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Part of mine.
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Right.
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Which I happily accept. I try my best, I do my.
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Best, and you look great.
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I'll take it.
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But early on, were there tips and tricks and things that you learned from makeup artists and just even, like, getting your skin right to look good on camera? Like, are there things that you picked up early on that you still integrate into your routine today?
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Yes. A friend of mine, Natasha, she's an incredible esthetician in New Jersey, she told me that in order to prep your skin and have it always be prepped, you should be. You should have some sort of essence that is applied to your face, some sort of spray or hydration that you apply to your face. Just like, you drink water, like, for your skin.
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Yep.
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And so I have a few, like. And they're always. The first ingredient is never water. The first ingredient is usually something like an aloe or something like that. And so a rose water. Even, like, not just like, regular distilled as aqua, you know. You see that? Aqua.
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Yeah.
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It's mostly water. Water. Yeah. Which is fine.
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Right.
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But, like, I wanted something that was really hydrating.
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Right.
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But she would say even like a water, like a Evian spray.
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Yeah.
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Like, every once in a while throughout the day, just on your face with. Without makeup, before. You know what I mean? Before and after. So I do that still to this day.
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What are your go to? Facial spritzes.
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Ooh. Okay, so right now I'm loving one by a line called Toto. It's got, like, licorice root. It's got marshmallow root. It's got. There's no fragrance. It's got a little bit of squalane.
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Squalane.
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Yeah, that's it. A little bit of that in there. And it's. The first ingredient is aloe.
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Yes.
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And so it's super hydrating. And I also use it on top of, like, show makeup. You know what I mean? Because I'm not the person on TV that you see. I'm not like a super matte. That's not my jam. I don't. I'm not. I'm not.
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And, like, when you're starting out getting.
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Makeup done, everybody wants you to be matted down. Yeah, matted down.
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And so how do you use your voice to speak up, to say, like, this is it. Is that you have to, like, rise up a little bit.
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I literally was like, y'all look crazy.
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Okay.
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I said, y'all, I look. Look at that. He look crazy. Yeah, we not doing that. And I remember when I started Access Hollywood, you get, like, this. Not an orientation, but you get, like, a consultation with, like, a makeup artist and stuff like that. And she was like, okay, so you want to use Studio Fix? Is it studio?
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Yeah, Studio Fix. Mac.
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Yeah, from Mac. You want to get this pressed powder. You want to use this?
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Oh, you have to buy your own stuff.
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Yeah, you gotta buy your own stuff.
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Oh, see, I didn't know that I.
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Was a guest correspondent. Guest east coast correspondent when I started Access Hollywood.
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B
Okay.
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A
First interview was with Taylor. Taylor Swift went really well, but they were still like, you're a guest. And I was a guest correspondent for a year.
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B
Wow.
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A
Before they pulled the trigger or before we forced them to, it was like, what are we going? What are we doing?
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B
What are we doing here?
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A
Like, what are we. Yeah, it was like that, you know, being like, dating for.
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B
Are you gonna put a ring on.
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A
It or not or no? Like, what we doing? You know what I mean? And so, yeah, when I. When we had the little consultation situation, I remember being like, oh, this is a lot of products.
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B
Yeah, sounds like all on your face.
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A
Okay, so how do I do that? She's like, oh, no, no. You have a makeup artist. I was like, yeah, but when I don't have a makeup artist, how will I. Can you show me how to do this right? And she's like, she showed me. And I was just like, wiping stuff all on my face. And I looked and it was like, one tone. She was like, most guys on TV aren't going to want to do any sort of contour. They want the least amount of makeup on their face. I was like, how do I look? My best?
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B
Your best? Yes.
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A
That's what I want.
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B
You're like, I'm willing to contour, baby. Right?
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A
Where do I put it? Do I put the contour right here? Does it go right here? Didn't have any idea. And so a lot of it has been trial and error. And, like, I'm constantly looking for new products, constantly looking for new shades. Fenty. For a very long time. Has been a go to for me when it comes to foundations, because the kinds of colors that she had, I feel like really represented the tones in my skin. The gold and the red.
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B
Yeah, I was going to say because you were, like, neutral, but you also have, like, golden tones, but then also red undertones.
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A
Yeah. You know, it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy up in here. You know what I mean? The Caribbean is no joke. So. But I also. I have fallen head over heels in love with Danessa Myricks.
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B
Such beautiful products. I'm wearing Danessa Myricks eyeliner right now.
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A
Do you see what I'm saying? Like, the fact that she's created this. This product that looks like skin, that feels like your skin can breathe through and under it. Yeah.
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B
So what do you use from her?
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A
Her foundation is incredible. Her concealer is incredible because it's. It's. It. What is. What is the word? When it. A little bit goes a long way.
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B
Yes. Concentrated. High coverage.
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A
High coverage.
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B
Yes.
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A
It's got high coverage. So you don't have to use a lot.
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B
Right.
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A
And it can still look natural on your face. I use that and I use her balm to powder because I'm allergic to powder.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I learned that the hard way. So many makeup artists want to just do what they do on everybody.
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B
Yes.
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A
Because they want to get in and get out. And I can't tell you how many shoots I'll never forget being on. Had an exclusive with Simone Biles after the Olympics. We're on the roof of 30 Rock, and a makeup artist has just put powder all over my face.
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B
No.
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A
And I am in the interview, and literally, my eyes will not stop watering at one point. Simone goes, are you okay? Your eyes are really red. Are you. Is everything okay? And I was like, everything is not okay. And thanks to you, I can say that now out loud. I don't have to, like, pretend like, it. Like, I'm okay over here. No. I'm having the worst allergic reaction I think I've ever had on my face. Do you want to stop? I was like, I would absolutely love to stop, but I've got three more questions, so we'll finish a professional. Oh, my God. I was like, do not use my camera. Just awesome. But yeah, like, I. I also love what is the Laura Mercier okay as a foundation that also feels like skin? Yeah. I'm into. I'm into makeup in that I'm into men's grooming and products that can make men, that can help you get to be your best look Your best on camera.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know what I mean? Like, I'm not. You're probably never going to catch me in, like, a metallic eye.
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B
Right.
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A
You know, anything like that. But I will put on a brow, complexion products. You know what I'm saying?
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B
What's your nighttime skincare routine?
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A
Okay. Nighttime skincare routine. I am so. I use the. I'm a mess of this up is a Maya.
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B
It's a Maya French. Yeah, it's a Maya. Yeah.
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A
She's got a wipe.
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B
Okay.
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A
That is zero waste.
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B
Okay.
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A
I've heard about this underwater. And it disappears.
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B
Amazing.
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A
But it's a serum. It's. It's no water, no alcohol is like the base of the wipe. And so it literally lifts the makeup off of your face and leaves this beautiful serum on your skin.
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B
I need to try that.
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A
I. It ain't. But it's cute.
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B
I need to try.
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A
And it does. I think. I think it works pretty for the amount of makeup that I wear, which is not a whole lot of makeup.
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B
Right.
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A
It. I'm off and I'm good. I often exfoliate at night. I alternate between, like, the. The chemical exfoliants, like the aha and the BHA is that kind of thing. And like a. Like a granular exfoliant, super mild low. Like a rice usually situation. And then I am a person that's like, treat, moisturize, seal.
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B
Okay.
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A
Treat, moisturize, seal. So whatever the treatment is, if it's hydration, if it's blemish, if it's. I love a turmeric face wash. Oh, yes.
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B
Turmeric. So good for your skin.
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A
It is so balancing and clarifying and. And it just. I don't know, it makes chocolate skin yummy.
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B
Yes.
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A
You know what I'm saying?
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B
And your skin's so even.
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A
Turmeric.
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B
Turmeric. What moisturizers do you like?
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A
Okay, let's see. I like one by. I think it's 1110011 skin. Or is 1111 skin.
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B
111 skin, I think.
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A
Yeah, yeah. Their hydration mask. Look, if I'm on a flight, it is on my face.
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B
Yeah. It's so good.
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A
It is so good. I also use it as a. Like the base, like a primer for makeup because it has such a barrier on your face.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But then, like, your makeup feels like it's luminescent and.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know what I mean?
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B
I'm using dewy. I'm using their sunscreen right now. And it's so good.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah, it's really good.
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A
Who just made a Sunscreen. That's, like, sheer.
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B
There are lots of sheer sunscreens now.
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A
But, like, are they really sheer?
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B
Well, the unseen sunscreen from Supergoop is like fire. Totally.
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A
That's the one I'm thinking about.
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B
Yeah, it's really good.
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A
That's. It's fire.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I don't wear sunscreen enough. I do believe I don't wear it enough.
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B
Yeah.
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A
What other. What other moisture? Yeah, but I mean, like, I'm. I'm all into, like, a gel. Moisturizer. Oil. Moisturizer. I use it at the end of my. The night right before bed. Emu oil.
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B
Ooh, emu oil. We don't talk enough about emu oil.
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A
I'm into it.
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B
That's a really nice, rich oil. I haven't used it in so long. Oh, okay.
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A
Oh. And because where I live, like, I'm in. I'm in the desert, like, the valley of. Of la.
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B
Okay.
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A
And so it's dry, it's hot, and it's bright. And so, you know, after all that sun, you need some, like, real love on your skin.
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B
Yes.
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A
And it always just feels like you wake up and your skin is just like.
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B
Yes. Emu oil. Are you going to Coachella this weekend?
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A
I am not going to. I am going to Coachella this weekend. I will be. I will be watching it online.
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B
Yes.
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A
And having some drinks.
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B
I love.
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A
And maybe some other things on at the house.
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B
I love that for you.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You interview so many beautiful people, and sometimes people translate on television or in magazines, and we think they're beautiful, but maybe not in person. But who are some of the most beautiful people that you've interviewed where you. You're with them and you're like, this person is just glowing. There is just something stunning about this person.
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A
Before I tell you that, I have to tell you smell so good.
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B
Well, you know I'm wearing naked beauty.
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A
I know, but, like, you. You get. You get. Every once in a while, you get like, a little.
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B
You've been wearing yours.
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A
I have been wearing it. And I'm gonna be. And I'm gonna tell you something, because I had one, because I was supposed to give it. I was supposed to give it as a gift.
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B
Oh, my gosh. I would have brought you one.
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A
No, it's fine. I'm going to buy it. It's no problem. The crazy part is, you know, you spray it and you're like, the. The initial experience of it is superb. But what happens the next day when you go back to the thing you sprayed it on right there is Something about what you have created in this next day. So, like, I spray clothes in my closet with it. Yeah, it is.
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B
Yes. I love the way it smells on clothes.
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A
Oh, fire.
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B
Yes.
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A
Thank you for your service. You're welcome. Who is beautiful? Okay, so I will say this. We just did an interview with Ms. Tina Knowles for Houseguests, and the way that she showed up, the space that she held for me and allowed me to have with her was bar. I've never had an experience quite like this. It was something that I felt was very necessary for me, but the way that she was able to honor that and allow me to have that with her was unreal. I cannot wait for people to see it. But I also. Rihanna is everything you'd hope she'd be.
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B
Yes, Everything. Your bestie.
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A
I mean, like, we. At one point, I was like, I just feel. I feel like at this point, we friends.
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B
Right? Right.
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A
Like, I mean, I feel like at.
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B
This point, I feel like you guys are friends.
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A
You know what I mean?
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B
She is someone. Makeup, no makeup. Like, she is just a stunning woman.
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A
Crazy. It's crazy. We were on a boat, and I was looking at her, and I was like, enough, enough. She was like, what? I was like, enough, Enough. Right? It's unreal. I also would say, you know, I have been surprised by a few people as well. You know, there. There are people that you imagine are kind and beautiful and strong and powerful, and then you get in front of them, and they are shy and reserved and sensitive. Do you know what I mean? And so I'm. I've. I've always been kind of. Those are the people also that I. I'm kind of drawn to as well, because they have this way of presenting for, you know, whatever the. The need is. But then when you get to. Closer to their real personalities, you're like, oh, man, I just want to. Like, you guys want to hug you. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I've had some. I've had some pretty incredible experiences in my career with, like, some of the.
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B
Best I know is there. I mean, starting with erykah Badu at 16. Is there anyone that you want to interview that you haven't interviewed yet?
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A
Michelle Obama.
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B
That will definitely happen.
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A
Yeah. I mean, I want it.
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B
Yeah, I want it. We're putting that out there.
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A
I'm gonna say this, and I know that I don't know why I'm already qualifying it. Like, it's not gonna happen. I would actually like to also sit down with Beyonce. The. We interviewed her when I was in High school. So when.
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B
Shortly after Destiny's Child, back when she was doing interviews.
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A
Right. You know what I mean? The promo, like, this was like, pre. I want to be a whale. I love whales.
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B
Right, right.
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A
This is way before that or that. And so, you know, I think. No, no, no. Had just released its remix with Wyclef, and that's when they came to Indianapolis for Summer Celebration. And so, yeah, I would love to have an opportunity to sit down with her and, like, really, like, talk it out, you know, immediately I'm like. But I would. I would Love that. B. Ms. Knowles. Ms. Carter.
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B
Right.
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A
If. If you have it in you. You know what I mean? I'll come to you. You know what I mean?
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B
We'll make it work.
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A
You were just with her.
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B
I was.
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A
What was that like?
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B
I mean, she is also one of those people that. You see her, obviously, in videos, pictures. She is so stunningly beautiful in person. It, like, takes your breath away.
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A
Yes.
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B
And to your point about Ms. Tina, it's like, it no wonder that Solange and Beyonce are who they are when they come from that lineage. And then you hear Ms. Tina talk about her mother, you know, and how her mother inspired her. It's just like. It's just a long line of beautiful, creative, bold women.
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A
Yeah. This book that she's about to share with the world, I hope that people run out and read it and they.
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B
Patriarch.
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A
It is unreal. But it's so funny because when you said. When you were talking about Beyonce, I also. Lady Gaga has a very similar way about her and that she is. And that's what I meant about, like, the person who's like. She's a lot smaller in person. She's a lot. She can. She really brings it way, way back, especially if you're not talking about music. She is a person who's very thoughtful in her responses, but she is not Gaga.
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B
Right.
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A
You know what I mean? In an interview. Not. Not usually.
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B
That's her onstage Persona.
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A
What about.
- [35:19]
B
Have you interviewed Doja Cat? What's her vibe like? Because I think it gets chaos.
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A
Chaos. Pure chaos. I'll never forget, I brought my little sister to do an interview with her. We did it on her tour bus right before a performance. And never interview an artist right before.
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B
A performance because they're just not.
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A
They're not focused on you. They are thinking about the chords that didn't sound right, the lights that aren't correct yet. The outfit that they were gonna wear doesn't match with the light. Like, they are not really thinking about You. When I tell you we were doing the interview and there were so many points, she was like, I'm so sorry, what were we just talking about? And I was like, I don't know. You were talking. I. E. You, you, you were talking. But at one point I said, can you give me. My little sister is here and she is an aspiring artist. She's creating some pretty incredible songs. Having experienced what you've experienced in this business, what would you tell your younger self, your 20 year old self, your 22 year old self? She was like, oh, I mean, fuck them. I was like, what? She was like, I mean, no, not like don't actually fuck them, but like.
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B
Don'T think about them, don't think about them.
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A
I was like, did you hear that? Was that helpful to you? Okay, good. We're good. Thank you. Thank you, Doja.
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B
I kind of love that advice.
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A
Yeah.
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B
I mean, I want to talk about what it's like being in this industry, being in Hollywood. Rejection, setbacks, it's all kind of comes with the territory. And you've been at it for a long time, since you were a teenager.
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A
Been in access Hollywood for 10 years. 10 years this May. Wow. Yeah.
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B
Wow. How do you handle, if you've ever been overlooked, setbacks that you have feeling underestimated.
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A
Yeah.
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B
There are so many outside forces that come into play when you can have the biggest career aspirations, but sometimes things are not in your control. How do you handle those setbacks? Do you go to therapy? Do you. What, what, what recourse do you have?
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A
Therapy, journaling, meditation, core principles of self care for me, like constant in my life. Maybe not all three at the same time. Usually there's some two, but those things are the things that I always return to. Prayer also always present in my life. I feel like the prayer is your. Is, is the part of the conversation where you're talking, where you're requesting, you're seeking outwardly. And meditation is the listening. Right. And the getting out of the way of the magic to really like prepare yourself for. Right. And to center, to ground yourself. I will also say that like rejection is a part of it all. Like, it's just a part. Like suffering is a part of the human experience. You know, it's like a Buddhist principle that like it is inextricable from the human experience. And so to get used to it, to welcome it, to feel it and to notice it, but to not make it your personality does not make it your identity.
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B
Yes.
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A
Right.
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B
Is there a time that you've been overlooked that you can think of. And I'd be curious because I think that people listening, whether you work in corporate and you're overlooked for a promotion, I mean, I think especially for people of color, we're consistently being overlooked.
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A
Oh, my God.
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B
Is there a time when you've dealt with that?
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A
Oh, it happens to me all the time. It's one of the reasons why we created Houseguests because I was tired of going into the, you know, I've got a first look deal, overall deal with NBC Universal and Comcast. Like, it's a sure way in to pitch your ideas. And we were pitching constantly talk shows, scripted shows, follow docs, sport history docs. Like all this stuff. And some of it was going. Much of it was going nowhere. And I just was. I wanted to win. I wanted something that we could control, something that we could do and that we felt strongly about, because we felt strongly about it. And that's how we started Houseguests. But yes, I've been like, I remember when World of Dance was being launched and with the announcement came, and I was like, I want to host this show, but I don't. I will do anything on this show. Like, if it's a social media correspondent, whatever it is, I want to be a part of this. And when they announced that Jenna Dewan was going to be the host, Jenna on Tatum was going to be the host, I was like, damn. Well, I mean, that does make sense. It does make sense, but I still want this job. There was something about the idea of not poisoning her achievement, her win with my jealousy or with my negativity that still made that feel good. Do you know what I mean? Like, I was able to celebrate the fact that she got it and it made sense to me. Right? It won't always make sense, but I remember I didn't take no for an answer. And I remember when they decided they were gonna go a different direction and not have a host. I was in front of every executive, I was in front of every talent rep, all of my agents my age. Everybody was like, they don't wanna host this season. We're gonna submit you. Maybe next season, but we're gonna. I was like, I don't. I just don't believe that something about that doesn't feel right. And I had dinner, was supposed to be drinks that turned into dinner that turned into conversation after dinner that almost turned into like a haunted house situation with one of the execs, the exec in charge, in fact, with World of Dance. And she was like, you know, there's Something about you that I just feel like more people need to see. And I was like, I'm gonna be honest with you. I haven't talked about it, this whole dinner, this whole situation, but I want to host World of Dance. And I don't know if you want one, if that's possible or what, but I don't think it would be. It would be irresponsible of me to leave this experience and not share that with you. She was like, I actually fuck with that. Like, thank you for saying that to me. Thank you. That was on like a Friday. The next Tuesday was. I think it was the Billboard Music Awards. And I was clowning like I normally do at the show. Ella May was on stage singing, Booed up, and I was losing my mind with Stevie Mackie. And behind Stevie Mackie were executives for World of Dance, Benny Medina and Elaine Goldsmith Thomas. And they saw us just cutting up, and they must have had a conversation that was like, well, what are. Why haven't we not brought Scott in? That was on a Tuesday, Wednesday. I got the call from the executive that I had gone out with the week before. There are people here from World of Dance in my office. Can you get here right now?
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B
Wow.
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A
I ran to her office and they asked me. Elaine and Benny were in the office and they were like, we hear you want to work on World of Dance. You want to host the show. Why are you the best host for it? I was like, is this the interview? This is easy, no problem. And I laid it all out. I talked about why the history that I had with dance. I talked about my interest and curiosity about the human story that there were so many people who would be able to do. Here's the scores. But I know how to get to the core of a story, like the Follow the story. I know how to help uncover what many people are maybe overlooking in that scenario. And we had a great conversation, was maybe a 15 minute conversation. And the last thing I said was, they were like, okay, well, thank you. I was like, well, before I go, is there anything that we talked about today or we didn't talk about that you might see as a red flag or a reason why you would not be able to take me or hire me as the host for this show?
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B
That's a good thing to ask before an interview ends.
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A
Yes. Close the interview. And Benny looked at Elaine. Elaine looked at Benny. They both looked back at me and they were like, wow, that's a. No one has ever asked that. And no, there isn't. And I said, well, Then, on that note, thank you, thank you, thank you. And I'm gonna go ahead and see myself out. And Benny told me later that it was that moment that shored up the deal for him because he was like, people always try to sell past the sale. They always try to take it past the. Yes. And you. You identified. This is the moment. I've had it, and I'm out. And so I knew that you were the kind of person that we wanted to have this experience with. So that was on, I think, Wednesday, Thursday, I was on stage.
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B
Wow.
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A
Rehearsing for my first show for World of Dance as the host. And I didn't tell my agents that I had any of those meetings. I just let the deal come through. And when they called me, they were like, you're never going to believe. I was like, you don't. You don't think I would believe.
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B
And then they took their 10%, of.
- [43:08]
A
Course, and I gave it to him.
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B
All right? And that's part of that's.
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A
And I gave it to him because I also know that, like, it's coming back to me.
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B
Right.
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A
In so many other ways. Like, get. Get your shit. I'm not going to keep you from yours at all.
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B
Right.
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A
At all. But I'm also going to make sure that, you know, it's. It's time to get some more shit. So bring on some more.
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B
I love it. I love how you've navigated your career, and I think just your ease at being yourself is something that a lot of people can take away from this conversation. Like, you are just yourself, and that's why people love you. What tips do you have for people that get nervous to speak? Get ner. Like, I feel like people. The number one fear in life, isn't it? Like, public speaking is like, the number one fear, which is.
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A
I mean, it's. It's true. Like, I. I still do.
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B
Really?
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A
Yeah. I get so nervous. Like, even these. Like, I'm used to being on your.
- [43:54]
B
Side of the thing, asking the question, right?
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A
And so. Yeah. And so, like, I. Sometimes I'm like, okay, what are you talking about? Did you get to. Did you even answer the question? Like, I'm in, you know, kind of in my head sometimes.
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B
What tips do you have for people to just feel like themselves and speak with confidence and authority?
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One is always slow down. Always go a little slower than you think that you. And you. That you need to always slow down. I would also say find people in the audience that you can make eye contact with to drive your point home to Drive your intensity home. That can also sometimes be. It can feel daunting because if you're like, I don't want to look at anybody. What are they? What are they on their phone? You know what I mean? There are some people who will tell you to look right above the audience. I need to make sure I'm connect. Like, I'm, I'm connecting with you. Like, I'm, like you're getting it. I will also say that prepare as much as you can, study as much as you can. And then right before almost every experience I have, on camera or off in front of other people, I always had the moment where I center myself and say, I have done all that I can up until this point. Now it is my mission to move out of the way so that whatever is supposed to happen in this space has the room to do it. You know what I mean? Quincy Jones talks about making the way for magic, making the room for magic, not trying to make magic. That wasn't your job. It was our job to curate a space where magic felt at home and you get out of the way.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Yes. And also not sticking to this rigid script because no one knows what you're supposed to say. No one knows and no one cares. And no one cares, honestly.
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No one cares about what the message points were beyond like the sponsor or the gig, the corporation. How do you communicate those things? How can you best communicate those things? Sometimes the companies don't even know the best way. They just know the way they've always said it. You know what I mean? And so it's also like, how can you bring you into this, your experience, into this? And so yeah, I would say slow down, make room for the magic. Get out of the way, but be as prepared as you possibly can be.
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I love those tips. You mentioned journaling and prayer as being kind of the core tenants of your self care. Is there anything else you do to relax and unwind right now?
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Like, I've been really into like, it's so strange because, like I've never been like a tea drinker, but I've been into like the, like the ritual of tea.
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Yes.
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Right. Like picking that. Is it going to be loose tea? Is it going to be a bag of tea? Is it going to be. We're doing a pot. Is it going to be a tea kettle? Like all of those things? The ritual of it is, is really enjoyable to me for some reason. The flavors and the, the.
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Yeah. What, what's your, what is your go to?
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Well, I like a chamomile honey.
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Yes.
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Vanilla situation. I like a mint.
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Yes.
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The Mighty Leaf has a African nectar tea.
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Ooh, baby, so good.
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Y'all better go out and get it right now. I don't have no stock in it.
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But it's African nectar.
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African nectar from Mighty Leaf.
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Okay.
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Fire. And a coconut assam tea also that I really like.
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Yes. I love a mint tea after dinner in lieu of dessert. Like, if you're trying to cut back on sugar, like just having a mint tea after dinner.
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Is that right?
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Feels great.
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I'll never forget being in London and ordering a mint tea, and they brought the mint leaves, and it was just like a few mint leaves in a hot. In hot water. And I was like, this is $13. This. This was $13. But, I mean, you're. You. It's so refreshing.
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B
It is so refreshing.
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Yeah.
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B
Final question that I ask everyone who comes on Naked Beauty, which is, when do you feel most beautiful?
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Oh. Laughing with people that I love. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if that's like, the beautiful, but that's when I feel like life is its most. I don't know if it's me the most beautiful. That's when I feel life is its most beautiful. Like that belly laugh, like, cackling with your friends. The best with your family, with loved ones, with strangers. But the connection is real. Yeah, I love that.
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Yeah, I love that. Thank you so much, Scott. Such a pleasure.
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You're the bomb, truly.
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Thank you.
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Thank you. I know that you've had. You have developed this craft. You have. You have worked at this for some time, but what you were doing, how you were creating this space is not easy.
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Thank you.
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And it should not go unsaid that to be the woman that you are, the person that you are, the creator that you are, and to craft spaces that people feel like they can be more themselves. They can share the wins, the losses, the beauty and the ugly with you, and that you are sharing it with an audience that feels like they. It does feel like they are really getting what you mean to be putting out.
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Thank you.
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It is incredible.
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Thank you. I appreciate it.
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And to do it looking as beautiful as you do. Shoot, y'all better get into it. I love it so much, Scott.
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