Acadia National Park, Just Skip It! ft. Beach Too Sandy, Water Too Wet

Summary

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National Park After Dark: "Acadia National Park, Just Skip It!"

ft. Beach Too Sandy, Water Too Wet

Released: April 13, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this playful and hilarious crossover, Danielle and Cassie of National Park After Dark are joined by Xandy and Christine from the comedy review podcast Beach Too Sandy, Water Too Wet. The four hosts revisit a beloved episode format: reading and riffing on the worst online reviews of a national park—in this case, Acadia National Park in Maine.

While they all share affection for public lands, this episode’s purpose is pure comedic catharsis, poking fun at outrageous, overblown complaints travelers have left about one of the country’s most picturesque parks. The episode moves through Acadia’s main attractions—historic hotels, sunrise views, restaurants, iconic hikes, and wildlife cruises—sharing actual reviews and interspersing them with stories from the hosts’ own travel mishaps and adventures. If you’re a fan of national parks, irreverent humor, or seeing entitled traveler expectations hilariously punctured, this one’s for you.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Welcoming the Guests & Setting the Scene

[01:38–04:19]

• Danielle and Cassie introduce Xandy and Christine as inspirations for the review-driven format.
• Banter about previous episodes, mutual fandom, and the joys of lampooning “bad” park reviews.
• Acadia National Park is dear to the hosts but is placed in the comedic firing line for the episode.

2. What & Where Is Acadia National Park?

[06:24–07:16]

• Quick primer: Maine's only national park; famed for dramatic coastline, pines, and Cadillac Mountain—the first sunrise on the east coast.
• Hosts recall driving for hours, foggy sunrise attempts, and the park’s unique blend of mountains and ocean.

Memorable Moment

“We got up at 3am. … It was so foggy, we didn’t get a view…we just stood there. …We should write a bad review.” —Cassie, [07:18]

3. The Ghost Tour Debacle

[09:55–16:14]

• The first “must-do” is a Bar Harbor ghost tour, but the review is a two-star trashing.
• Complaints include endless history lectures, boring storytelling, “fake-looking” ghost photos, and a general lack of atmosphere—aside from the “wonderfully spooky” weather.
• Discussion of expectations: Do people want history or just scares? The hosts recount their own weirdest ghost tour, led by a man appearing from the bushes, sharing only his "feelings"; “Who the is Mary?”

Notable Quote

“My tip? Don’t show these photos to groups—most giggled at these photos because they are so obviously not ghosts. The most egregious picture is just a blurry photo of a man in modern-day clothing with a crew cut.” —Christine, Reading “Sean’s” Review, [13:08]

4. Hotel Horrors: The Inn at Bay Ledge

[20:37–30:13]

• Hosts read a (very) detailed, one-star review from an intrepid, well-traveled elderly couple. Their complaints: a musty cabin, an intermittently running toilet, lack of help from the owner (who eventually yells “You broke it!”), and being handed a filthy bucket for flushing the toilet.
• The review paints a picture of a surreal, escalating guest/host showdown.
• Banter about the “traveler’s flex” (Middle East! Japan! Camping!), horror commiseration about national park bathrooms, and notes that the inn is now under new (sadly, less exciting) management.

Notable Quote

“He screamed at the top of his lungs over and over, ‘You broke it! I had it fixed and you broke it!’” —Danielle, Reading Review, [24:10]

5. Jordan Pond & the Popover Scandal

[33:54–44:20]

• Introduction to the Jordan Pond House: a gorgeous, historic restaurant overlooking the water, famous for popovers and “fancy” tea service.
• Hilarious confusion about what a popover really is (“Is it just a flavorless Dutch baby pancake molded into a hollow muffin?”), and the importance of “proper” jam.
• One review calls the popovers “the biggest food scam in America…if not the universe,” accuses satisfied customers of being “lulled by the view,” and laments the “$14 for 50 cents worth of food.”
• The group disputes claims that only “Smuckers” jam is served, share their own visits, and rib people for being mad about bees on the lawn: “My favorite thing is people complaining about nature in nature.”

Quote

“Do yourself, your family, and your wallet a favor and skip this experience entirely. …Popovers and Tea at Jordan Pond House may be the biggest food scam in America, if not the universe.” —D, Reading “CardioMD22’s” Review, [40:00]

6. Cadillac Mountain: A Foggy Disappointment

[45:35–50:15]

• Cadillac Mountain is one of the park’s highlights, known for its epic sunrise views—but reviews are largely colored by weather luck and hype.
• A complaint: “It was some views, but I didn’t see anything that breathtaking or unbelievable. Just kind of meh.”
• Host insight: crowds and parking challenges affect perception, and some reviewers seem determined to be underwhelmed.

Quote

“I won’t say don’t go, because if you don’t you’ll just be wondering what you missed—but don’t expect much.” —Cassie, Reading Review, [48:44]

7. Thunder Hole: Where Is the Thunder?

[51:00–54:14]

• Thunder Hole, famed for dramatic tide surges and booming sounds, gets two reviews:
  • “Instead, I got a polite burp from the sea and a light misting.”
  • “There is no thunder and definitely no hole. LOL.”
• Banter about expectations—Poseidon’s “fury” vs. the whims of nature—and reminders that timing is everything.

Quote

“Visited Thunderhole with high hopes of being dramatically drenched by ocean fury and deafened by nature's subwoofer...Instead, I got a polite burp from the sea and a light misting. Like Poseidon sneezed politely and said, 'Pardon me.'” —E, Reading Review, [52:03]

8. Carriage Roads: E-Bike Envy, Angry Cyclists, and Rampaging Horses

[54:14–62:14]

• Acadia’s Rockefeller-built carriage roads offer idyllic, car-free biking, horse rides, and walks.
• Reviewer complaints: “Boring—just trees,” “long uphills and long downhills,” and (the clincher) “my wife almost got stampeded by a horse,” leading to conclusions about the “entitled equestrian crowd.”
• Hosts discuss the shock of people expecting ocean views everywhere, laugh about equestrian subcultures, and point out, “They’re just mad to be outside.”

Quote

“The reckless equestrian was a guide on horseback who was in front of a horse-drawn wagon...In sum, I would say the equestrian crowd at Acadia seems rather entitled.” —C, Reading “Cynthia321’s” Review, [59:21]

9. Beehive Trail: Acrophobia & Iron Rungs

[62:22–72:36]

• The Beehive Trail: short, steep, technical, and lined with iron ladders. Famous for traffic jams and triggering acrophobia.
• Review details: climbers panicking, unable to turn back, imagining the “physics of bouncing off the rocks,” and contemplating helicopter rescue—even referencing the viral video of a spinning rescue basket.
• Discussion dwells on the appropriateness of comparing the trail to a via ferrata: “A mini via ferrata? I disagree...”
• Hosts stress warnings are posted, but also: “Kids have no fear; they’re built different.”

Quote

“…If you’re uncomfortable with the idea that just one small slip could mean serious injury or death, then exercise caution. Your 10-year-old might slip and die.” —D, Reading “Ryan K”’s Review, [71:37]

10. Whale Watches & Puffin Cruises: Seasickness Misery

[73:06–80:58]

• Reviews skew dramatic. “Bar harbor whale watch tour: Do not go on this tour!” “The boat goes at insane speed—over 50% of the passengers were vomiting on the floor, into bags, and off the side.”
• Hosts debate the accuracy of such numbers (“If there were 100 people, that’s wild!”), relate personal seasickness stories—plus a harrowing group trip to a South African seal colony where they were nearly beached in a storm.
• Another review blasts an employee for (appropriately) yelling at someone for standing on a seat and leaning overboard.
• Closing consensus: sometimes the danger is real, sometimes people are being entitled (and reviews can be salty regardless).

Quote

“All of this horror for 20 minutes of apparent whale watching…not one person on the boat appeared to be having a good time, except the guy driving it.” —B, Reading Review, [77:36]

11. Wrapping Up: Why People’s Complaints Are (Usually) Ridiculous

[91:27–97:12]

• The Beach Too Sandy, Water Too Wet hosts share favorite topics (dude ranches, wedding photos amidst swarms of bugs, outdoor review lunacy).
• Hosts talk about their ongoing quest to spot moose in New England (“Moose aren’t real!”) and reflect on what really defines travel “horror stories.”
• “Any outdoor [reviews] really do always present some challenges for humanity.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Ghost Tours:

“If I could offer some advice on how to run this tour…the ghost story should be snappy and fast-paced and full of scares. Don’t show us obviously fake ghost photos—a blurry photo of a man with a crew cut!” —Christine, [13:08]

Hotel Suffering:

“I am a widely traveled 79-year-old woman…We have never had an experience quite like the horrible one we had at the Inn at Bay Ledge.” —C, Reading, [21:04]

Restaurant Scams:

“Popovers and Tea at Jordan Pond House may be the biggest food scam in America, if not the universe.” —D, [40:00]

On Nature in Nature:

“My favorite thing is people complaining about nature in nature.” —C, [45:08]

On the Carriage Roads:

“Avoid the bike ride unless you want a vacation exercise workout where you occasionally see an inland lake and never get a glimpse of the ocean.” —C, Reading, [61:17]

On the Beehive Trail:

“After what was one of the most terrifying experiences of my life, I made it to the top. The views are beautiful, but I was a shaky, sweaty mess.” —D, [70:53]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:38] Welcome & Setup
• [06:24] Acadia Overview
• [09:55] Ghost Tours & Haunted History
• [20:37] Hotel Horror Story
• [33:54] Jordan Pond & Popovers
• [45:35] Cadillac Mountain Fog
• [51:00] Thunder Hole Disappointment
• [54:14] Carriage Roads & Cyclists vs. Horses
• [62:22] Beehive Trail Panic
• [73:06] Whale Watches & Puffin Cruises
• [91:27] Moose Sightings & Outdoors Reviews
• [92:36] Beach Too Sandy, Water Too Wet: Where to Find Them

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Episode Tone & Language

• Playful, irreverent, and rich with anecdotes—Hosts often slip into laughter, share their own travel disasters, and channel the over-the-top dramatics of unhappy reviewers.
• Relatable, with regional and travel insider knowledge—Fun for national park nerds and fans of ironic, tongue-in-cheek commentary on “first-world problems” in the great outdoors.
• Authentic and unsparing in poking fun at themselves and others—No one is safe from a little gentle mockery, including the hosts.

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Summary Takeaway

If you need a dose of laughter at the expense of irate, entitled, or just unlucky national park visitors—and experts who truly know and love these places—the “Acadia National Park, Just Skip It!” episode is a treat. It’s a celebration of how travel never goes as planned—and an invitation to embrace the unexpected (including faulty toilets, popover letdowns, crabby horses, and the ever-elusive moose).

Final verdict: You may end up even more determined to visit Acadia—just maybe with lower expectations for Smuckers, sunrises, and bucket-based plumbing.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

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[C]

Hello, everyone, and welcome back to National Park After Dark. I'm Danielle.

[B]

I'm Cassie.

[C]

And we have a really fun episode today. We just finished up and I'm. I'm still, like, laughing and smiling because this is such a good time. We have some really fun guests on today to kind of do, like a follow up to an episode that we did a few months ago that people really enjoyed.

[B]

Yeah. So if you tuned into our episode a few months ago where we went, we went to all the bad reviews on the park service, we have decided to come back to that because you guys came back and said, we love this. We want to hear more bad reviews of parks. So today we're picking On Acadia National Park. Little bit. Because we love it. All in good fun. And we have Xandy and Christine from beach to Sandy, Water to wet podcast with us today.

[C]

Yeah. And it's kind of like a full circle moment because that was the inspiration for that episode because we've been huge fans and we listen to them, and if you're not familiar with their podcast, they take reviews of all types of different things. They were just saying they just reviewed dude ranches. I think the one I listened to today was about jewelry. Like, there it's anything and everything.

[B]

And I listened to one about puzzles where people are really up in arms about puzzles and they just have great banter and great reviews or horrible reviews. I should say that people leave that are really funny to listen to.

[C]

Yeah. So today we have the honor of having them. We're taking them to Acadia and trying to convince them to go in a backwards way. But we hope you guys enjoy and

[B]

are also convinced to go. Yes.

[C]

And please share your good experiences or poor experiences of whatever park you'd like. But yeah, Acadia's on the chopping block today. All right. Well, hello, Christine and Zandy from Beach Too Sandy, Water too wet. Thank you so much for being here.

[D]

We're so excited.

[E]

It's an honor. Big fans. Feels like a natural collab. We're very excited that you guys reached out.

[B]

Yeah, we're super excited. And I think our listeners are going to be really excited about this too. One, because we know that they love your podcast. But also, we did a episode not too long ago where we did one of reviews of national parks, and people were like, you gotta do more of this, please. This is so funny.

[E]

So there's something that crossover. There is just. Yeah. It gets really crazy.

[C]

Yeah. People really love. We do too much, like, loving on the national park system day to day. And then. So when we have an opportunity to

[E]

share something, dunk on them for a minute.

[C]

Yeah, People eat that up. Yeah. Yeah. So we decided to pick a park that's kind of near and dear to us. It's our, like, hometown national park. It's the only one seven hours away.

[E]

Oh, look what we have up here. Yeah. Right in your backyard.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, I live in Maine in the state, and it's still five hours away from me.

[E]

It's really wild.

[C]

Okay. Yeah. So we decided to pick Acadia. Have either of you been. I know we were kind of just talking.

[D]

Yeah. Literally just to see one lighthouse. And I was planning on going to more, but I had a Lighthouse and Puffin Cruise to get to. So, you know, I just.

[E]

You know how it is when you get a Puffin cruise.

[B]

Oh, we did the Puffin Cruise. You did?

[E]

Oh, my God. I'm the only one here who hasn't done a Puffin Cruise.

[B]

You have to do it.

[D]

I didn't even know were up there.

[B]

Me either. I didn't know that for a while either. And we did it for my bachelorette.

[C]

Yes.

[E]

I need to get married again. That sounds.

[D]

I got to go to that one. Your Vegas one was fun, but I want to be invited to a Puffin Cruise.

[E]

A much classier type of bachelorette.

[B]

I would say, like a very mild.

[E]

Yeah, it was low key. We're all just kind of like in ponchos.

[B]

We went kayaking, getting seasick, looking at birds.

[E]

I'm just puking over the edge.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

A lot of water activities.

[E]

It's a little. Kayaking is too far. All right, We've gone too far. I'm not doing that on my bachelorette. We're going water activities. Sorry, Danielle. Looks like I just yelled at her.

[C]

Like, how dare you? First of all, do you know where you are?

[E]

Yeah, I did react a little too vehemently. I apologize. It's okay.

[C]

It wasn't my bachelorette, but I was happy for the activities happening.

[E]

But, no, I've not. Is it obvious? I've not been to Acadia, but I've heard it's beautiful.

[C]

It is. Yeah. It's really nice.

[B]

You won't hear that today.

[E]

You won't.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

According.

[E]

Not according to Yelp.

[C]

Yeah. So for anyone who isn't familiar with Acadia, of course it's located in Maine. It's right on the Atlantic coast. It's super beautiful. It's like the classic pines going right into this rocky shore, going right into the ocean. It's super picturesque. It was established back in 1919, and like we mentioned, it's one of the only parks in our area. But a lot of people love going here. Number one, because the ocean and the mountains kind of combo. But also because there's this place in the park that's super famous. It's called Cadillac Mountain. And most of the year, it's the place you can see the sunrise first on the East Coast. So people, like, really love going there. It's a whole thing. We also did that for your bachelorette. We got up at 3:00am oh, well, that part sounds less.

[B]

And to top it off, we should write a bad review. Yeah, I'm just kidding. But we got to the top, it was so foggy, we didn't get a view. It was completely dark. We just stood there. You couldn't see five feet in front of you, never mind a sunrise. And it was freezing. It was, like, raining. And we got up super early.

[E]

And then we just one time Alexander

[D]

say, what is it about sunrises where you just assume it's going to be visible and then you show up?

[E]

We did that. He dragged me to the beach for a photo. He had gotten a camera and he wanted to use it to watch the sunrise. And it was just all fog. And I sat in the rocks.

[D]

The only photo we have is me just sitting there dejected, all sad. And she thought it was really funny. But I did get to see the. At West Quaddy Point up there near Lubeck. The first sunrise of. For the US because that's the farthest east point.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

That's cute.

[B]

That's really cool.

[D]

I love Maine.

[C]

Yeah, Maine is. Have you tried. This is kind of off topic, but also not. Have you tried lobster ice cream?

[D]

No, I. Well, okay. I don't know about. Well, I'm vegan, so that sounds like, doubly not vegan. But I was dying to find a vegan lobster roll, and I couldn't find one, so that.

[E]

But that feels like lobster ice cream.

[D]

I'm okay.

[E]

That feels like a tough one to replicate. Yeah.

[D]

I don't need a lobster version of ice cream, though.

[C]

But that's okay.

[E]

I'm not vegan.

[C]

And that sounds kind of terrible, but it sounds disgusting.

[E]

Sounds horrible. I do both of those things separately.

[D]

But do you have a review of it, like, in your head?

[E]

One to five stars. What do you rate it?

[C]

I didn't even touch.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Okay. I know I drew a line. Yeah. But it's either all lobster or blueberries up here.

[E]

Oh, right. So, yeah, the more natural fit for an ice cream, I would argue.

[C]

But, yes, I agree. Well, so how we're going to do this is we're going to kind of like go through Acadia and some of the biggest stops that people tell everyone they should do when they're here. So we'll start off with a ghost tour, because that is one of our favorite ways to explore a new place. The first things we do is either, I don't know, like a historic walking tour or a paranormal tour. I will accept both.

[E]

And I feel like they go hand in hand sometimes, you know, you get a little history lesson on a ghost tour.

[D]

Yeah, I did one.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And it was like, all history, big mix of, like, like, oh, yeah, all this old stuff.

[E]

And ghosts. And ghosts.

[D]

Great.

[C]

Yeah. So we actually have not done a ghost tour in Maine, which feels. Oh, you should, I know, feels like a missed opportunity.

[E]

Get married or I will. And we can do it. I would do the ghost hunt. Not the nested waking up at 3am and not the kayaking, but I would do a ghost hunt.

[C]

Yeah. Renew your vows up here.

[E]

I might.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

That's the thing. Or just. Let's just go.

[C]

Okay.

[E]

We could just do that too.

[D]

Let's just.

[C]

There's obviously a lot of parks have, you know, spooky ties and their own fair share of hauntings and certain things. Just as we're like everything else in. In the world, but this part of Maine or this park is actually really interesting because it first started off like, when you think of national parks, you think of like, I don't know, big, wild open spaces, lots of wildlife, just undeveloped areas. But Acadia is a little bit different because it kind of started off as like this gilded age, wealthy summer escape for a lot of people. And there was a lot of like, really beautiful, ornate mansions. And it's like. It's kind of like the Hamptons back then.

[E]

Summer there.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, they'd summer in Maine, and there was a lot of bougie things going on and there was a lot of like, human presence versus, like.

[E]

Right.

[C]

This is a lot of just wild open land we should protect. But a huge fire came through and destroyed almost everything. But so because of the tragedy and a lot of human presence before. Before, there's a lot of spooky stories and stuff. So.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. So of course there are a lot of different tour operators that have ghost tours in Bar harbor, which is the town that is the gateway town to Acadia National Park. And we decided to pick somebody who is upset about their experience

[D]

because.

[E]

Why not? Because. Why not?

[C]

So, Christine, you can go first.

[B]

I would love to. Okay.

[C]

Okay.

[E]

So this is a review by Sean and it's of the Bar Harbor Ghost tours. It's a two star review. I really, truly, honestly wanted to love this ghost tour. I'd been so excited for it leading up to my vacation to Acadia. I can't express how let down I was with how lackluster and flat out boring this ghost tour is. If I could offer some advice on how to run this tour, the first thing I would suggest not having the first stop at legend lasts literally 30 minutes. I noticed others in the tour becoming antsy and yawning and slouching as we reached minute 20 of the dull history of the family who lived and owned Ledgelon.

[D]

Not the slouching.

[E]

Oh, and I love how he's like.

[D]

When we were slouching, she had a word. Schlumping.

[E]

Don't schlump like this.

[D]

Don't slump like this.

[E]

Anyway, that's from Princess Diaries.

[D]

Oh, that's what it was.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Okay, so she. Our mother quoted Princess Diaries. That's wild. Anyway, slouching.

[B]

I had a teacher who used to hit me with a ruler if I slouch down.

[E]

I'm sorry, are you 95 years old?

[B]

I know it's crazy, but she was. It was in first grade and she was like, not hard.

[C]

She was first grade.

[B]

It was first grade. And I remember my teacher was like 70 years old. And she'd be like, sit up. And she hit me with a ruler.

[E]

Wow. I mean, we went to Catholic school, so I would have thought like a nun. You know, an angry nun.

[B]

It was public school.

[D]

They lived in the school and everything.

[E]

They were buried in the school.

[D]

Okay. Buried. We walked over their graves every day on the way to chapel.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Anyway.

[B]

Okay, the group is slouching.

[D]

This is how it goes with these reviews. We don't actually talk about them.

[E]

Okay, Sorry we derailed. Okay, so get.

[C]

Blah, blah, blah.

[E]

Everyone's slouching during the boring 20 minutes of dull history. Get to the ghost stories. We don't need the whole tedious history of a family we don't know nor care about.

[B]

First of all, why are you there?

[D]

Okay.

[E]

Unless we as a group are actually entering the supposedly haunted locations, the ghost story should be snappy and fast paced and full of scares. A ghost story should be drawn out and lead to yawns from a tour group. Moving on to our second location. The graveyard itself was dark and foggy and wonderfully spooky. All things you want in a ghost tour location. Unfortunately, at this point, the group was shown purported pictures of ghosts taken at the graveyard. My tip. Don't show these photos to the groups most giggled at these photos because they are so obviously not ghosts. The most egregious picture is just a blurry photo of a man in modern day clothing with a crew cut.

[C]

A crew cut that maybe that family

[E]

that owned Ledge lawn had crew cuts and that's the ghost of one of them.

[D]

That's probably.

[B]

And if you were listening to the history.

[E]

Oh my God. The modern day clob crew cut. But is supposedly the ghost of a man from the 19th century. To even show this photo to us was almost insulting to our intelligence. After this, we walked down to the Criterion Theater. We couldn't go inside, but the privilege of being able to enter the theater is not a guarantee every tour. So I took no issue with that. Once again, however, we were regaled with less than interesting minutiae of the history of the theater. Now, I love history.

[C]

Okay, no, you don't.

[D]

Oh, I had to learn about some family. I don' the is this.

[B]

I had to learn history that I love.

[E]

Hated it as a history lover myself, but I didn't take this tour for history lectures. I'm here for creepy ghost tales. The history of the theater as a speakeasy would be much more fascinating if I wasn't on a ghost tour and expecting ghost stories. By the time we moved on to our last location, I was so checked out, I couldn't have cared less about the ghost story and the EVP played for us. This was the slowest paced, dullest ghost tour I've ever had the displeasure of partaking in. And as I already stated, I really wanted have a great and spooky time. My ultimate pieces of advice, get to the ghost story sooner. Don't bore us with the history of people we don't have anything invested in. Don't show us obviously fake ghost photos. And don't have us standing around in one location for more than 10 minutes. I give this tour two stars because bar harbor at night was fantastically spooky in the fog. So the weather. I'm giving points to the weather.

[D]

Wow, how generous.

[E]

Wow. That's the end of the review.

[B]

That explains the second star though, the weather. Oh, you know what?

[E]

Star for the weather.

[D]

Yeah, Sometimes you're surprised all the way through and you're like, two stars. How generous for someone who's so mean.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

And then this one. Okay. Weather gets a point.

[E]

It's a fog. Yeah.

[C]

I love how they were like, just get to the ghost. I want the ghost. And they're like, could care less about the EVPs.

[E]

I wasn't even listening.

[D]

More than I've ever. I've never seen an EVP used on a ghost tour personally.

[E]

Yeah, I feel like that's not really.

[D]

Feels above and beyond.

[E]

Yeah. I don't know. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. Well, once they saw the crew cut, they checked out, so.

[B]

How dare you. How dare you.

[D]

What a bold. If they were using a fake, like, why would they use that photo then? Like, it just seems so ridiculous.

[C]

Right?

[B]

I think I would question a ghost with a crew cut as well. I'd be like, wait a second here, hang on.

[C]

19th century yeah, well, Cassie and I went. We tell the story a lot, so I'll make it quick. But Cassie and I went on a ghost tour that. I don't think we'll ever have an experience like this again. We. We kind of like, topped out. So we went to. We were in San Diego and we stayed at the Cosmopolitan Hotel and. Which was supposed to be like, obviously super haunted. Cassie actually had a little experience there. But we took this ghost tour and usually I'm the one who books them. And I was like, let's do a little something different. Let's shake it up. So I wanted to. Which was a mistake, but I booked this guy who had a lot of great reviews, but it just wasn't the traditional. Like, you're with a group and they're going through something similar to what we just heard about. So this guy, like, he's like, meet me in the. The square of Old Town.

[B]

This dark corner.

[C]

Dark corner. We're like. And so we're kind of. We're with four people. There's four people in our group. And we're like, where is this guy? He comes like out of the bushes. He's like, hello. Dressed in plain clothes. Like, no indicator that he's runs anything, like, at all.

[B]

So not even like an id, you know, like sometimes there's a lanyard that's

[E]

like throwing a lantern. And that gives him immediate authority.

[D]

Some guy with a crew cut just like jumps out.

[C]

Yeah. No light source, let alone a lantern.

[E]

No light source. Oh, my God.

[C]

So we're like, like, hi. And he's like, you know, obviously he's like, here for the ghost storm. We're like, yeah, sure. And he brings us to just around the old town. San Diego Square, whatever. But he doesn't give us any back. This person would have loved it. We didn't get any history.

[E]

Oh.

[C]

At all. Of any building after jump scare. He was just like, yeah. So I had my first paranormal experience when over here at the. What was that really haunted place? The Whaley House. Yeah. He's like, that's what, like, opened this whole thing up. And every stop was legitimately what he sensed and felt. Oh.

[B]

No history, no context, none personal camp. He's like, this is where Mary is anyway. And we're like, who the is Mary?

[C]

And then he's like. He would be like mid sentence. He's like, oh, hold on, you. And he would, like, point to one of us. And we're like. And he's like, put out your hand. Stop and go like this. He's like, do you feel that? Stop. Do you feel that? We're like. He's like, close your eyes. He's like, there's a little boy right there.

[D]

What a way to start. Put your hand here. You are touching a little boy.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

No, I don't think so.

[C]

And that was it. That was the whole tour for like an hour and a half. And so we couldn't tell you one thing about Old Town, any of the

[E]

buildings you didn't even remember the name of. The Whaley House. That's incredible.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Truly.

[C]

Yeah. So I think, anyway, I think his name was Joe.

[D]

Joe wants a podcast.

[E]

Joe needs a podcast.

[D]

They need.

[B]

It's a ghost tour we'll never forget. That's.

[C]

That is true.

[E]

I think I might not forget it either, just hearing about it.

[C]

Okay. Shout out Joe. Thanks so much for that. Okay, so we are going next to hotels and there's a lot of historic hotels in and around Bar Harbor. And I kind of went off script. I'm like, I'm just gonna pick one that somebody's really mad about. It has no, like real. It was actually. It's an older hotel. It opened about a hundred years ago, but it's obviously been like renovated and a bunch of times. And this woman, well, it was a woman, but I think she was using her husband's account. Howard. 182 from September of 2021. The review is the in at Bay Lodge, which I don't think we've been to. Cassie. I was like a lot of the hotels and stuff I. I recognize, but I didn't recognize this one. But here we go. Here's the review. One star. I am a widely traveled 79 year old woman. My husband is 81. We have traveled extensively in Europe. We've been to the Middle east, in Japan, in Latin America and all over the usa. We have camped, we have stayed in hotels, inns, bnbs and tents. But we've never had an experience quite like the horrible one we had at the Inn at Bay Ledge.

[E]

This is a good start.

[C]

It's like, okay, so you're. You're better than us.

[E]

Yeah. I mean, clearly from the first word

[D]

of this review, like, I went to the Middle East. I love that the Middle east, such a. Like what a drop. Why? Who. Who cares?

[C]

She just had to set the scene of how. Yeah, well traveled they are, I guess. Okay. We arrived on the Saturday of Labor Day weekend. We were impressed with the location of the inn on a bluff overlooking Frenchman's Bay. Alas, we were not assigned one of the rooms with a view in the main lodge, but rather to a room in a sort of cabin across the road. We did not complain, however, nor did we say anything about the mustiness of the room. We were disturbed, however, by the fact that the toilet was running as though it was filling up, even though we hadn't flushed it. And it ran not constantly, but in spurts. So we couldn't even treat the sound as white noise.

[E]

So it's like intermittent white noise.

[D]

That's one of those complaints. And I'm like, yeah, I feel that

[C]

that's kind of a problem. We complained later in the day to the owner, Jack. He said he would check on it. But that night we had to close the door to the bathroom to keep the noise out. The next day, Jack came to our room while we were out and left a note scrawled on a piece of paper. I quote, best for now, turn valve online. Turn off valve to stop plumbing off if you'd want.

[E]

No. Just no.

[C]

We had some trouble flushing the toilet later that day, but my husband reached into the tank to try and fix it and he did, at least temporarily. It still ran that night. We got home from dinner at 9:45pm the toilet was completely broken. It would not flush at all. My husband looked inside the tank but couldn't see what was wrong this time. So we called the numbers listed on the sheet of paper we were given at check in, including the number that said, quote, if you need immediate attention. No response. We called three numbers, but it's like, just give it up. Just call it. It's fine.

[E]

It's like broken toilet. It's not.

[C]

Yeah, it's not that deep.

[D]

The idea of sticking my hand in the tank, like I do that whatever. My own toilet. I'll stick my hand in the tank. In a hotel. Why are you even doing that? The fact that you. I don't know.

[C]

A musty hotel at that.

[D]

I would not touch a hotel toilet intimately. I consider that intimate.

[E]

I think I just have a. Less German. German.

[D]

I'm not germaphobe. It just seems.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Off. I'm like, I wouldn't. I don't trust myself to do what it up. I'm just gonna it up more.

[E]

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

All the spurting. I'm not gonna make it spurtless.

[E]

There's also.

[B]

Then you're just like, I didn't touch anything.

[D]

That's true.

[E]

That's so.

[D]

It's like the liability. You know, you probably sign some waiver. It says toilet issues. You gotta. You gotta not touch it.

[C]

Hands off the toilet.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Finally, my husband crossed the street to the main lodge and found another number. This time, Jack answered and in a few minutes came to our room. When he arrived, we told him the problem. He began screaming, and I mean screaming at my husband. You broke it. I had it fixed and you broke it.

[E]

Alexander, you were talking about toilets that aren't yours.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

He screamed at the top of his lungs over and over. I told him we couldn't spend the night in a room without a toilet, which seems weird for somebody who's been camping and.

[D]

So true.

[C]

Very good point.

[B]

I don't know. I would be mad. I've left hotel rooms or asked to switch hotel rooms for broken toilets.

[D]

But have you been to the Middle East?

[C]

Yes, we have, actually.

[D]

Well, then you earned it.

[B]

You earned it. And it wasn't there where I asked to switch.

[E]

It's just you're so well traveled. Gives you an automatic one.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, it's crazy because people who are. Have traveled to the Middle east and have seen toilets over there. This feels, like, not that big.

[E]

Maybe that's. But now she's like.

[B]

But now, like, there's a toilet. She should be grateful.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

A hole in the ground.

[D]

National parks, I think you know something about them. Their toilets are terrible. And this person's been like, not in a bad way. It's like, oh, at least I have something. But like, yeah, it's just.

[E]

Are national park toilets terrible? Or did Zandy just, like, slay?

[C]

Oh, yeah. No, you fight for your life pretty much.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

It's a hit or miss, I would say, for sure.

[D]

I will say I've been to some that have, like, some great facilities.

[E]

Oh, here he goes. Backtracking.

[D]

I've never been in an Acadia toilet, though. So that area. What can I say? I don't know. Not much.

[B]

In their defense, they're very understaffed right now. With.

[C]

That is true.

[D]

I wonder why that would happen. So true.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay, here we go. He screamed at the top of his lungs over and over. I told him we couldn't spend another night in a room without a toilet. Then he began screaming at me. You are nagging me. Quit nagging. You're nagging me. Stop it. At one point, he flung open the door of the room and screamed, get out. Just get out and go someplace else.

[E]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Of course, as elderly people at night in a town where every available room was already taken, on this holiday weekend, we had nowhere to go, which actually is very valid. Acadia In Labor Day weekend is a nightmare.

[E]

Yeah. Like only imagine.

[C]

You're not.

[B]

I forgot that they were elderly too.

[C]

Yeah. There is also.

[E]

She made that very clear in the first line. 71 year old.

[D]

Yeah. The first line, huh?

[C]

Yeah. I told him we would not pay for the night and that we needed some solution. He kept screaming at me. For a split second, I thought about calling the police. Finally, he went into the bathroom and started working inside the tank of the toilet. By that time, it was at least 10, 10pm he worked on the toilet for about 20 minutes, muttering that we had broken it. He's like, after their toilet.

[E]

I'm so sorry. Those mean people.

[D]

I told you, it's an intimate thing.

[E]

It's an intimate thing. You're right.

[C]

After that, he sheepishly admitted that he had a plumber in sometime before and the plumber had not set the valve correctly. And he complained about the money he had paid to the plumber. He promised to have it fixed the next day and apologized for yelling. But we still had no solution for the night. Finally, he said he wouldn't get us.

[E]

This man just yelled at you and said you were nagging him? I would not be sleeping.

[D]

No, like, traumatized.

[C]

Well, he's offering a solution.

[B]

Oh.

[C]

Finally he said he would bring us a bucket for the night.

[E]

Stop. That's not okay.

[C]

Can you imagine flushing the toilet with a bucket in a hotel room?

[D]

In my head, they're pooping in the bucket. Okay. Yeah, yeah, in the bucket for flushing. Okay.

[C]

She clarified.

[D]

You dump a bucket of water in, it, like whooshes.

[E]

I thought it was the new toilet. Okay.

[D]

It doesn't spurt, it whooshes.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

It's good. It's a good sound.

[B]

Good.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

We have no choice. Jack left, and about 15 minutes later, he returned with the filthiest bucket I have ever seen.

[E]

He found the dirtiest one on the property.

[B]

It was cake. That was on purpose.

[D]

Yeah. Everyone's like, oh, pooping this. No. Oh, my God.

[C]

It was caked in mud, inside and out. I didn't even want this bucket near me, and I certainly didn't want to touch it. I took a photo of the bucket, but I don't know how to upload it to this site.

[D]

Oh, no.

[C]

The bucket had a very wide mouth so that it was impossible to pour without spilling filthy water on the toilet seat and onto the floor. It was revolting. But again, we had no choice. I couldn't even lift the bucket. We made it through the night, though. After being screamed at, we had a hard time relaxing Enough to go to sleep. We decided to check out in the morning, thus cutting our vacation by two days. We drove back to Boston and got a flight home at great expense because it was so last minute. All because of this toilet, by the way.

[E]

I mean, this toilet has caused some serious problems.

[C]

Jack's wife apologized profusely and of course didn't charge us for the night without the toilet, nor for the other two nights that we were supposed to be there. Of course, because it was Labor Day, she could not get a plumber. And even if she could have, we were not going to stay in that room with a plumber working there all day. I think she should have just refunded our money for the first night also. But we were so glad to get out of there that we didn't argue about it. I do not recommend this in because I think the owner, a man almost as old as we were, is kind of losing it.

[E]

I know I said I'm elderly. This guy is off his rocker.

[C]

I feel sorry for Jack's wife and the other employees.

[E]

Well, to be fair, he say that nagging word like a hundred times.

[C]

And I did have to note because I, I had to look into this, of course, because I'm like, God. Because there were other reviews that weren't as in depth of the as this, but kind of the same vibe of like, it was kind of gross and like run down and whatever. I'm like, what's going on with this? But the inn is under new management and it looks beautiful now.

[E]

Intriguing.

[C]

Okay, so there was like this lovely couple and their dog from Idaho and they're like, yeah, we bought it like last year and it needed some love. So, yeah, I've heard lightly it needed

[B]

a lot of love.

[C]

So, yeah, hopefully that all the toilets are white noise.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Burning regularly.

[E]

Wow.

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[C]

Okay, do you want to talk about Jordan Pond?

[B]

Cassie yeah, so next on our stop, if everyone's Enjoying their tour of Acadia so far.

[E]

Yeah, I feel like I've seen it already.

[B]

Basically, you've seen the best corners of it. The next stop is at Jordan Pond, which is this beautiful, iconic spot that when you go to Acadia, it's kind of like the place to go. And it's this restaurant that. It's a restaurant and gift shop that overlooks Jordan Pond. And also the Bubbles, which are these mountains that are shaped in, like, half circles, so they're called the Bubbles. And it's. And it's beautiful. And they're known for their popovers, which is like, you go there, you have a popover, you have the. Their blueberry lemonade. They have other food and stuff too, like classic lobster and a bunch of other dishes. But during the summer, they have all out on the lawn overlooking this pond. You can sit outside, servers come and bring you these.

[E]

Oh, lovely.

[B]

They do tea time with your popovers. So you get, like, fancy tea and your popovers and jam and butter and bread, and it's just like this fancy, beautiful, elegant way.

[C]

And it's started in the 1800s. Like the popover thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So it's like a very ingrained and rooted thing.

[D]

I have no idea what a popover is.

[C]

It's like a biscuity.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

It's hard. Do you know what a Yorkshire pudding is?

[D]

I like a lot of Gordon Ramsay content. I know what a Yorkshire pudding is.

[E]

Okay.

[B]

It's a Yorkshire pudding.

[E]

Oh, I've never heard of such a

[D]

thing in my life. For how he made his Yorkshire pudding. Anyway.

[B]

Okay. It's a Yorkshire pudding. It's the same thing.

[C]

Yeah. Sorry, I was looking up. I've never seen Yorkshire pudding. Oh, really?

[B]

Either I grew up. My step parent was or is British. They're divorced now, so he's not my stepparent anymore, but we used to make Yorkshire puddings all the time at my house. So they're very. They're very, very similar.

[C]

The name is deceiving because.

[E]

Deceiving.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. There's nothing pudding like about it.

[B]

It's not desserty either. It's like. It's very much like a bread. It's like a really fluffy bread.

[C]

It's like a crescent roll.

[E]

I'm just always mad at people from England, but nice.

[D]

Oh, yeah. I mean, watching Gordon Ramsay complain, I was like, come on, dude. No. Who cares? It's a Yorkshire pudding. But he. No, he. He had some points about how it would deflate and stuff. Stuff. But that's.

[B]

Yeah, if it deflates, it's ruined.

[C]

It's trash.

[E]

Okay, Danielle, you just said you didn't know what.

[C]

What.

[E]

What Yorkshire pudding even was, and now you're saying it's trash.

[C]

I feel like I'm an expert now.

[E]

I feel like kind of get it.

[C]

Yeah. I get it because I get popovers, and if they're the same thing, I'm

[E]

the only one here who's totally out of the loop. That's fair. Yeah.

[B]

You just have to go to Jordan Pond in Acadia now, I guess.

[D]

That sounds amazing. I want to go. I want to go back to Maine.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

September 30th day. So I might anyway try to get out there. Open lighthouse day on September 13th.

[C]

Oh, I thought you said it's White House day. I'm like, that's the wrong state. I know. I'm like, I feel like there's a

[D]

lot of things, but. Yeah, no, they have. They open up all the. Not all the lighthouses, but they have. They open up lighthouses across the state of Maine to the public, and I was the fifth person last year to go into the Portland headlight, and they met, I think, 200 people in a year. So those are, like, really cool.

[C]

That is cool.

[B]

Super cool.

[E]

I'm trying to find ways to brag on this show.

[D]

Yeah. Anytime I can talk about lighthouses and force it in, I. I take the opportunity.

[B]

I love that.

[C]

Do you have the, like, passport.

[D]

Oh, you better believe book? It's. I think it's in my backpack right there.

[C]

You're like, I have it on me just in case.

[D]

You never know. Except, actually, whenever I go to an actual lighthouse, I forget it.

[E]

Can you imagine? There's, like, a natural disaster, and they find you and they find your. Like, we have his ID and it's

[D]

just like, yeah, no, I have mixed up that with my actual passport. It is not, like, anything that bad. Like, I didn't try to travel internationally with it, but I mixed them up before. But I have, like, a stack of papers, little paper slips that I'm supposed to tape in because I went so many times without my passport. They stamp paper for me, and I haven't put them in.

[B]

But anyway, that's my struggle with national park passport.

[D]

I bet. Yeah.

[C]

We always forget ours, and then so we have all the loose things and the stickers and the stamps and. Yeah.

[E]

Overwhelming. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. We've been to so many before the park passed or we had the passport. So now we feel like, did they even count? Because we didn't get the stamp.

[E]

I know.

[D]

No, they didn't.

[B]

We gotta start over.

[E]

I think it's pretty obvious they did not count.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah. So I think we have a review of the. The restaurant. The Jordan.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

We've talked so highly about Jordan Pond.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

This review is not so great.

[D]

This is from reviewer CardiomD22. That's not my kind of name. Let's see. August 2024, and it's titled the Jekyll and Hyde of Jordan Pond. Whoa. Believe it or not, it's a one star review. Here we go. Those who are reading these reviews should carefully note the widely disper. Oh, disparate experience.

[E]

I know. They're making us read some hard words today.

[D]

What the heck? We deleted on purpose.

[E]

Lisa. Thesaurus. We're like easier way to say.

[D]

Those are who are reading these reviews should carefully note the widely disparate experiences shared by reviewers. As did I before booking a reservation for JP House, as we were told by multiple people that we just. Just had to try the popovers and tea while here. Well, let me say, and all four members of my family were in complete agreement here that Popovers and Tea at Jordan Pond House may be the biggest food scam in America, if not the universe.

[C]

What?

[E]

America and the natural next step is the entire universe.

[B]

Sure.

[D]

There were only two aspects of the experience that were positive. The view from the restaurant Lawn is terrific. And probably why people who give this place positive reviews are lulled into satisfaction. And the service we received. Parentheses Jekyll.

[C]

Is that the good one?

[D]

Actually, I guess I didn't realize.

[E]

Oh, I don't know. Yeah, those.

[D]

Hyde is the bad one. I don't know.

[E]

Jekyll sounds like it's gonna be the bad one, right?

[D]

It does sound pretty evil.

[C]

Yeah. Because he's the. Yeah. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and. Right.

[D]

This guy's also a cardio MD so this person is also a doctor. So they know about Jekyll.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

Makes sense. Somehow. However, the popovers and tea are simply not worth the $14 a pop, as others have said for 50 cents worth of food. If that excluding tip. Oh, no. And $14 excluding tip, which I generously provided because I legitimately felt sorry for the harried servers. The popovers could best be described as what a flavorless Dutch baby pancake would taste like if it were molded into a hollow muffin.

[E]

Oh, that's what it is.

[D]

Why didn't you say that to describe popovers?

[B]

That's such a great description.

[E]

Yeah, it's evocative.

[D]

Yeah, I knew what half the things were. Dutch baby pancake I'm not sure which. Oh, flavorless, though.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, man. They give you Smucker's strawberry jam and some butter and your choice of tea, coffee, or lemonade. The parking situation is awful as described as is the chaotic check in situation. Parentheses, hide, hide, hide.

[E]

Shit.

[C]

Bad, bad, bad.

[D]

Oh, I get it now. But is it true they give you Smuckers? That would surprise me. Unless Smuckers is like a main.

[C]

Do they?

[B]

I don't remember being handed.

[E]

I remember getting a whole jam. And this person's just being like.

[D]

Because that's what. You know, Cincinnati diners only have smuckers. And I'm like, if they have that here, come on, do better. Especially with the blueberry jams.

[E]

I'm sure they probably are not giving.

[D]

There's no way. 14.

[B]

I remember having a bowl with it filled with. Yeah.

[E]

So this person's just claiming they know it's Smuckers and it's probably they needed

[D]

another hide to throw.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Do yourself, your family, and your wallet a favor and skip this experience entirely. Or do what we did, which was validate the poor experience of so many who have already posted here. Your choice, Jekyll or Hyde.

[E]

Oh, okay. This is so, like.

[D]

I mean, really, that's the end of review.

[E]

It doesn't even make sense. Like, why would that be the Jekyll? And like, that doesn't even make sense. It's not the same person. It's not like, like, oh, yeah, it's a restaurant. It just is a weird.

[D]

This person was like, I know two things that represent good and bad.

[E]

Right. It's like, yeah, literary.

[C]

If you don't like popovers, just say that.

[E]

I mean, truly, like, you can just say, I didn't like it.

[D]

There's no nuance. It's like, what? It's not your taste. That's okay.

[C]

They are maybe, but pretty plain. I'm just gonna say it. Like, don't come for me.

[E]

Flavorless pancake.

[C]

Almost precisely. Exactly. Oh, yeah.

[E]

Wow. Did you rate this review?

[C]

I'm a big Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde fan, and I wanted to work it in somehow.

[D]

Yeah. Oh, it was all because you. And then I. You did get defensive about whether or not Jekyll had an MD or not. You were like, it's doctor.

[C]

It is doctor. Yeah. I see the connections. Yeah. A lot of people were also really upset it at this restaurant for the bees. They. A lot of people. Because there's bees everywhere and they love the Smuckers.

[E]

I like that. Lemonade spilling everywhere. Yeah.

[D]

I don't think I've ever been stung by a bee at a restaurant. That's like, you know, there's a swarm of bees hanging out, they want some jam, they don't want me.

[E]

I've been stung by a bee at a restaurant.

[D]

It doesn't count. You were harassing them. I saw it.

[B]

I was four.

[D]

Yeah, exactly. Does not disprove my point.

[E]

Okay, well, I feel like it's not the restaurant's fault that you're drawing bees, you know?

[D]

Oh, I agree. Unless they like, purposefully put, like, I don't know, cover the trees and smuckers or something. I'm trying to think how they attract bees.

[C]

Well, here's the thing. This restaurant is also in the middle of a national park. So it's like the bees belong.

[E]

Yeah, it's the bee's house.

[D]

It's not your home.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And they're surrounded by wildflowers. They have even. I don't know if all of them are wild, but Jordan Pond, the restaurant, has a bunch of planted flowers everywhere. And then there's wildflowers all in the fields off to the side. So it's beautiful and incredible. And of course there's gonna be pollinators there.

[D]

Yeah, we would hope so. I love bees.

[C]

My favorite thing is people complaining about nature in nature.

[E]

Yes.

[D]

When you did your review episode, I'm sure that was I. There's just national park reviews are so wild for that where it's like they complain about not having modern or not modern, just amenities specifically in a national park.

[E]

The weather. Yeah.

[D]

And then they're like, well, it was beautiful, but it's like, what the fuck did you want?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, next on our list of places that we're going, we kind of already talked about it earlier, is Cadillac Mountain, which is a really cool mountain too, just because Acadia is on the coast and then this rises to 15, 30ft above the ocean. So it's pretty dramatic. It sounds small if you're comparing like out west mountains or something. But from the ocean to the top of here is pretty cool. But there are people who have. Have not good things to say about it.

[C]

I've been there three times, never seen the view. Really?

[B]

Oh, I.

[D]

That, man, that foggy.

[C]

Yeah. So I feel like I should just give it up. Well, we did a group trip there with our listeners a couple years ago and of course we go up there. It's just fog. Like you can't see, like your hand in front of you. And I have this like picture or a video of somebody who got the actual view on Google and just held it up. Yeah. It's like, just use your imagination.

[E]

How beautiful.

[B]

I saw it once a few years. I think it was 2017. I saw it, but it's been almost a decade since the fact that you

[D]

like, know the year was like that.

[B]

It was so special.

[C]

It was a rarity.

[D]

I had the best weather when I was in. I. Everyone told me that. That I was so lucky. I don't think.

[C]

What time of year did you go?

[D]

I went twice. Once was in like. Like spring. I want to say March, like early spring. And then the other was September. So like middle of summer. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

The weather is usually good. It's just like that fog before it burns off is like. And of course you're there for the sunrise. So.

[E]

Right.

[C]

I don't know. It's kind of like 50 50. But I've lost every time.

[D]

I will say I did only wake up early one time, so it's not. I shouldn't be saying how great the weather was because I don't think I saw a single other morning. So.

[B]

All right, well, this review is from Nazi 42.

[C]

What?

[B]

Nazi N A T S Y.

[D]

They misspelled nasty. I Hope

[B]

it's from July 2017.

[C]

I'm like, so maybe we were there. Maybe we were there at the same time. Could be.

[B]

They titled this. What's the big deal?

[C]

Two stars.

[B]

Before heading into Acadia, everyone kept talking about Cadillac Mountain and how amazing it was. And it was on a lot of bucket lists and you just had to see it. Maybe if we'd gone at sunrise, which was impossible because I can't be anywhere at 4:30 in the morning, LOL. It would have been more exciting. But in the afternoon there really wasn't anything that spectacular. It was some views, but I didn't see anything that breathtaking or unbelievable. It was just kind of meh.

[E]

Oh, come on.

[D]

This person better live in like the most beautiful place in the world.

[E]

Yeah. I'm from Fiji. I don't even know if like, like, shut up.

[B]

You're overlooking the Atlantic Ocean and really you're in a national park. But okay, there's tons of people and you have to be lucky enough to come when someone is pulling out or you won't get a parking spot. You can wander around and look at a couple of views. But as I said, I didn't find it at all remarkable. I won't say don't go because if you don't, you'll just be wondering what you missed. But don't expect Much. It could be that coming from living in the midst of the mountains, I just found this one a bit underwhelming. If it hadn't been so hyped up, I may have left with a more favorable opinion. Sorry. People told you it was nice giving their opinion.

[D]

So then I didn't like it.

[C]

And also, what mountains? Because people have different definitions of what the mountains are like.

[E]

It's coming from the mountains. Okay.

[D]

Yeah, whatever.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like you're on the ocean. It's different.

[D]

I also. I hate it when people complain about, like, car things like parking in a review. Like, oh, yeah, you're part of the problem if you drove there.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Especially in a national park. If you're driving in a national park, like, that's fine. It happens all the time. Like, I did that. It was a crazy traffic because of all the construction. And I'm not like, how dare they do construction in my national park. It's like, yeah, part of the problem. I'm in the traffic because I am traffic.

[C]

Yeah. That's my second favorite thing. Yeah. It's like, I. There's just way too many tourists here. It's like, you are one.

[D]

What do you think you are?

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, gosh.

[C]

Well, next up is another location that people seem to be disappointed by in Acadia, and that's Thunderhole. So Thunder Hole is this feature in the park that it's really popular, number one, because it's, like, a really cool phenomenon if you catch it at the right time. But it's also really legitimately right off of the main road, so you don't have to, like, hike over to it or try and, like, travel far to get to it. So a ton of people try and see it. And it's like this rocky little inlet of the shore where when the tide comes in. Right. It thunders in and crashes up and makes this giant booming sound, and it has, like, this giant wave. I think a few people have died to, like, like.

[B]

Yeah, people have died there. It goes up to the wavel shoot up, like, 40ft in the air sometimes.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

When we were there, a woman broke her ankle, and there was, like, search and rescue there because it's really wet because of all the waves that are crashing right here. So. And you have to kind of climb down these rocks. There's a pretty, like, known path, but there they are rocks that you have to walk down to get down there.

[C]

Yeah. But if you catch it in the right time, I guess it's supposed to be amazing, but I think most of the time it's kind of just pretty average.

[E]

Dangerous.

[C]

Dangerous.

[B]

It's just a cliffside. It's just a rocky cliffside.

[C]

Like most of the time, beautiful, great, amazing, stunning. But some people are pissed.

[E]

So this is a two star review from by Saurabh written of Thunderhole. Here we go. Visited Thunderhole with high hopes of being dramatically drenched by ocean fury and deafened by nature's subwoofer.

[D]

I feel like if this were a five star review, that'd be amazing. I'd be like, yes.

[E]

Instead, I got a polite burp from the sea and a light misting. Like Poseidon sneezed politely and said, pardon me.

[D]

Sounds pretty cool.

[E]

I timed it perfectly. Two hours before high tide, as instructed by every enthusiastic blog and ranger I consulted. What I got was a small gurgle that sounded like a bathtub drain finishing its shift. The only thunder I heard was the rumble of my stomach waiting for lunch. End of review.

[D]

So is it like one time it happens? Like it seems weird that it's like, oh, I got a gurgle. As if like that was the only opportunity that it would make a sound.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Is it like when it's storming, you have to go there, there.

[C]

It's during the tides. You have to. During as high tide is approaching, I think is the best time. But I mean, it's always doing something because it's just a rocky. And then there's ocean waves crashing into it all the time. But to get the like full on. I don't know, wrath or fury, whatever.

[E]

They said the Poseidon's fury.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Poseidon's fury. Instead of just a gentle sneeze, you have to go in the right time.

[E]

Politely, please.

[D]

Poseidon said, pardon me.

[E]

That was nice. That was really thoughtful. Yeah.

[C]

And then we added just another one that. It was just funny. Okay.

[E]

I didn't even notice. Okay, this is a one star review from by Syed of Thunder Hole. Here we go. There is no thunder and definitely no hole. Lol.

[C]

What?

[E]

What? Little cliff. That's all not much to see. If you've never seen a cliff before, this is the place for you thumb.

[D]

Once you see one cliff, you've seen them all.

[C]

That's right. That's right. Yeah. Don't even bother their credit.

[B]

It's not a hole. It's like a slice in between the rocks.

[C]

Oh, he wasn't wrong. I guess he's not wrong.

[E]

Okay.

[B]

Technically a hole.

[E]

Technically, yeah.

[C]

He was deceived on both counts. No thunder, no hole. So the next one up is the Carriage roads. The carriage roads are one of the fan favorites of the park. They're kind of unique. Rockefeller was one of, like, the big philanthropists. He actually donated a ton of money to Acadia when it was being established, and he created these carriage roads. It's like a huge network of like 45 miles worth of. Worth of these. They're now gravel roads that kind of wind throughout the park, and people either horseback ride or bike or walk them. And it's a really cool play way to see the park, especially for people who don't want to do, like, huge, extensive hikes or anything like that. They're super popular. We did them. We didn't do them on your bachelorette. We did it on the trip.

[B]

Yeah, we did it on a group trip. We rented bikes and. Because there's no cars on them. Right. So it's just. Just people who can. And they weave around ponds and through the forests and it's really pretty. So we rented bikes and. That sounds a little long. Yeah, it's really nice.

[C]

But I do remember we lost a couple people in the beginning because they're like, all right, it's a nice gentle ride, but first you have to get up this hill. That's like.

[B]

They should have gave us E bikes.

[C]

They should have gave us E bikes for that portion. But, yeah, I don't know.

[E]

We've.

[C]

We did E bikes one time, and I feel like we can't go back.

[D]

Oh, I was gonna say I've never used one.

[E]

Me neither. But I'm afraid I'm not going back.

[B]

When you realize you don't have to pedal that much that hard to get places.

[D]

Great.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

I like the idea of biking until I'm doing it. So. That sounds like the good mix.

[E]

Yeah. Good combo. Yeah.

[D]

But our dad.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Best with E bikes, and I think

[E]

that's kind of like perspective on them.

[D]

He likes E bikes. I don't like E bikes.

[E]

Know petulant children.

[D]

30 year old children do with their parents.

[C]

Yeah. I would give them a chance.

[E]

We.

[C]

We rented them when we were doing the Maroon Bells in Colorado. And on the way down, I hit like almost 40 miles an hour.

[E]

Jesus.

[C]

It was scary as I'm like, I was cruising. Yeah.

[B]

Awesome.

[C]

Yeah.

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[C]

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[D]

Oh.

[C]

The reckless equestrian was a guide on horseback who was in front of a

[E]

horse giving it a two, though.

[C]

He's like, yeah.

[E]

After my wife almost got killed, I guess I'll drop one. Holy.

[C]

The reckless equestrian was a guide on horseback who was in front of a horse drawn wagon. Later, I yielded to the horse wagon as we were on a tight bridge. Do you think I get a thanks or. Excuse me. No. In sum, I would say the equestrian crowd here at Acadia seems rather entitled. Okay. We're going into a different. This is supposed to be the. Oh, my God. They're going after the equestrian community.

[E]

First of all, that's a dangerous community to go to. I wouldn't recommend.

[D]

As a vegan. I don't talk much about it.

[E]

It.

[D]

Because they scare the out of me.

[E]

Yeah. I live in Kentucky and I don't even mess.

[D]

I don't want to talk about my opinions on horse.

[C]

As a former horse girl, I didn't say anything.

[E]

Yep.

[D]

I'm scared.

[C]

Be careful.

[E]

It is.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

I don't. I don't doubt it for a second.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

That's why I had to get out, you know, I had to get out of that. That community.

[D]

Yeah. She. Yeah.

[E]

It's a daunting.

[D]

It's scary.

[E]

It's.

[C]

It is scary. And I will say entitled. There's a few people in there that.

[E]

I'm glad you said it.

[D]

Someone had to say it.

[B]

Other than it's a very rich sport.

[C]

It is very rich. Yeah. Especially like, I think there's a difference between, like, when I was a true. In my horse girl era, I was still living in the east coast and there's like, you do like English and I did hunter jumper competitions in that world. But then out west, when I lived out west, it's like you just throw on a western saddle and you're going through the mountains and like. Right. It's a cowboy camping and. Yeah. It's a. They're different.

[B]

Different vibes.

[C]

This, this, this world, the Acadia. I know exactly what they're saying. Okay. In sum, I would say the equestrian crowd here at Acadia seems rather entitled. So avoid the bike ride unless you want a vacation exercise workout where you occasionally see an inland lake and never get a glimpse of the ocean.

[E]

It's like.

[B]

Did you not look at a map beforehand?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Carriage roads are very clearly mapped out on every single thing. When you're in Acadia, like, they advertise it so hard.

[E]

This just for you to be able to see the ocean.

[C]

So, yeah.

[D]

Gratitude for Rockefeller.

[C]

And I almost pulled another one that was like. They basically were complaining. They were like, the views are nice, but until you realize the view is just forest. Oh, look, more forest. Oh, there's forest again.

[E]

Tree.

[B]

Like, I'm mad. I'm outside.

[D]

I mean, like, complain about not being, like, able to see the ocean. I feel like if they were that close to the ocean, the horse would have run his wife off the cliff.

[B]

Oh, true.

[E]

Yeah. You wouldn't have wanted to get stamped near the. Yeah. Near a cliffside.

[D]

Be grateful you were only by Ponds.

[C]

Yeah. Could have been.

[E]

Could have been a one star review, not a two star.

[C]

It's true.

[D]

My wife died. Or one more star.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Well, our next place that we're heading to for Acadia national park is the Beehive Trail. And have you guys heard of the Beehive before? It is. It's called the Beehive because when you look at it from afar, it's this big rock structure that kind of is in the shape of a beehive. It's a relatively short hike. It's about 1.4 miles to do it. But it's straight up rock and it has all of these steel ladders that come up that you have to physically climb up these different sections. So.

[C]

And you're on the cliff face.

[B]

You're on the cliff face. You're on the side. You're climbing up these rocks.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. That was very.

[C]

Once again, people have died here.

[B]

Yeah. And I will say, when we did it, this trail is so popular in the park that there will be lines of traffic of people in it. So we. Something that would have been very strenuous because you're like, climbing and you're walking straight up and you're kind of taking long breaks because you're waiting for other groups to climb up the ladders. And so it takes a little bit longer in that way. But it definitely is not a hike that you would do when it's raining or something.

[E]

Yeah. Because a recipe for disaster.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. But it has beautiful views.

[C]

Yeah. Have you seen the videos of like Everest when it's like people are just in a traffic jam going up? Everest in Acadia.

[D]

I've seen that, like, tick tock. I think when I was in Maine had a thing about the lines of people and I. Yeah. And I'm like, oh, my God. They're like on the cliff face, you know, it's very.

[C]

It's probably this trail, like, because that's how precipice. Yeah, that's true. But yeah. So something that could be really awesome and fun. Like. Like, yeah, you are. I feel like we were there half the time. We were just kind of like standing there waiting. Because if anybody has any sort of, like, panic attack or can't maneuver the ladders or get scared, like, you're jammed up. There's no other way around. Yeah. So.

[B]

And no one's rushing each other because we're all standing on a cliff edge and.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

Climbing up these rocks. So it's like, just take your time. We'll get there when we get there.

[D]

No horses, I hope, on that.

[E]

No horses allowed.

[C]

I did see that some people were saying, like, trying to describe this trail, and I want your opinion. Do you think it is like a mini via Ferrata or do you disagree with that?

[B]

I disagree with that same.

[C]

I'm thinking giving it a little more credit than I think is due because

[B]

via Ferratas, you are literally climbing up these huge rock faces. Almost rock climbing. You have to be strapped in. And this is not something where I think there were any points where I felt like you needed to be strapped in same. You know, like, you're not hanging over a cliff edge on these ladders. There's something.

[E]

A platform. Right.

[B]

Like, exactly.

[C]

So, yeah, I've done one via ferrata against my will, and I'll never do one again. I was so scared.

[E]

You did grab. I don't even know what it is, but it sounds terrible.

[C]

It's literally like. So we did it again on a group trip. We bring all our listeners on really fun things.

[E]

Damn.

[B]

We.

[C]

Where were we? Quebec.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And we did. I don't even know how high it was. You would have to look it up, Cassie. But it was. You basically strap yourself in to this, like, harness that has these. You have a harness on and you have these two kind of like bungee cord things out like this. And they have two carabiners on the end of each. And you're going straight up a cliff face on all these, like, little either footholds or rungs. And you have to clip yourself in on every step or you fall. And it's really, really scary for somebody who isn't the biggest fan of heights. And once you're up past a certain point, like, they tell you, they're like, this is your last time to bail out because no one can help you. So

[B]

speaking of two fun.

[E]

The only other time I've heard someone say that was at Mammoth Caves when I was in there. And they said, this is your final chance to turn around, otherwise you're stuck. That. That was terrifying. So this must be a national park thing.

[D]

It's like the opposite, though. I love that. Like you had that experience in a cave.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

Because it was. And then it's like, oh, on a cliff.

[E]

Yeah, why not?

[D]

Interesting.

[C]

Park staff will only help you up to a certain point and then.

[E]

I get it.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Your life's in your own hands. Yeah.

[D]

We'll clean up your body, Alexander. Sorry, I'm thinking about my own. If I were experienced it myself. I just read the title of it. It's People have died here.

[E]

Oh, God. Okay. Wow.

[D]

Anyway, that's according to ryan K. From July 2015. So it's been 10 years plus, so who knows if how many more. It's a one star review. Having grown up in Maine, I thought I'd enjoy a fun hike with my brother who is an experienced climber and lives on mdi

[B]

Mount Desert Island.

[C]

Yeah. Where the.

[B]

Which is where the park is.

[D]

Oh, okay. Okay. Oh, so people do live. Like, is it a good amount of people or is it just like a. Yeah. Oh, okay.

[C]

The park's really interesting because when you, like when you drove down to the lighthouse, like that portion that the lighthouse and some of the land around it is technically part of the park, but you drove through people's like communities and neighborhoods, you know, so it's like it's a park that's kind of fragmented a little bit throughout the island. Yeah.

[D]

While at the base of the trail, the face of the hill looks quite intimidating. Seeing the look of trepidation on my face, a man who just completed the trail said to me, she did it and put it to his 10 year old daughter.

[E]

I mean, that would comfort me if I saw a 10 year old and I was like, okay, that does make me feel better.

[D]

Yeah, that settled it.

[E]

Oh.

[D]

My gut was still saying this was a bad idea, but I went ahead anyway, so it doesn't sound very settled. I don't know. He's like, oh, that's settled.

[E]

If your gut is saying don't do

[D]

this, I still didn't want to. Okay. After a certain point, I couldn't take it anymore. Iron rungs and exposed cliffs. I've never been a fan of heights, but this was starting to press my panic buttons. The problem was there's no turning back.

[C]

What did we say?

[E]

You said it. Last chance.

[D]

You simply can't turn around on this trail. As it's more perilous to do so. I trudged forward. Yeah, so is that 10 year old had no choice. Like, it's like, yeah, she did it, but she would have died if she didn't.

[E]

Probably.

[D]

Supposedly. According to this person. I'm just. I'm in this review.

[E]

You're a realist.

[D]

Yeah, realist. Yeah. You're gonna die. Everyone. Okay. I trudged forward. Panic had deepened and I spent the next half hour hyperventilating and sweating over exposed cliffs, tenuously clinging to iron rungs as I stepped numbly upward into even scarier territory.

[B]

Holy crap.

[D]

Like, it's not funny, but it's funny. I love these. At one point I stopped and was wondering how much it was going to cost me to have a helicopter extract.

[E]

Oh my God.

[D]

I'm not kidding.

[C]

I wanted to add real quick.

[D]

Yeah, helicopter ride.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah. I feel like they're like looking whether their insurance covers it. Like anthem, like benefits. Like how much is a heli?

[D]

Honestly, airlifting sounds more perilous to be airlifted out of there than just climb down.

[C]

Yeah, that is true. A lot of people. We have come across a lot of rescue stories where it's like the helicopter comes in, that's great. But then like the helicopter crashes.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

So.

[E]

Well, that's a nightmare.

[C]

There's also that.

[B]

Have you all seen that video of someone being rescued in a helicopter and they put them in the litter. In the litter and they care if they carry him up and the rope just starts spinning and this person is just like whipping around the whole time and the comments are like, just leave me there, cut the rope.

[E]

Literally cut me down. I don't care anymore. I would be. Oh God. Oh God. That's my nightmare.

[B]

I'm pretty sure, I'm not positive if this is accurate, but I'm pretty sure it was an older woman too.

[C]

Not the 79 year old the well

[D]

traveled flying the helicopter. Oh, no.

[C]

Yeah. Imagine they probably also had like a significant injury, like a spinal energy.

[D]

Yeah, right.

[C]

They're already being rescued.

[E]

Things are already looking bad.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

God.

[E]

Very grim.

[D]

After what was one of the most terrifying experiences of my life, I made it to the top. The views are beautiful, but I was a shaky, sweaty mess. Thankfully, the descent down the back of the hill is simple. If you want the views and you're even slightly scared of heights and understand the simple physics of your body bouncing off rocks and boulders after one small slip, then I highly recommend taking that route. I didn't see this warning sign until I descended and there is a warning sign. And it says. I'm not going to read the whole. It's pretty long. But it says this trail follows a nearly vertical route with exposed cliffs. And that requires climbing on iron rungs as a start. And it says it resulted in serious injury and death. Small children and people with a fear of height should not climb this.

[E]

And it's on the side. It's at the end.

[D]

I'm not sure, but it seemed that way.

[C]

It seems pretty. I mean, it's bright yellow.

[D]

It is bright yellow. And it says war. I didn't even mention. And it says warning at the top.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

So it's one.

[C]

I didn't see it.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Blended right in.

[D]

Yeah. You know what? So. And then it continues a little bit. Here we go. You've been warned. If you're uncomfortable with the idea that. That just one small slip could mean serious injury or death to yourself or loved ones, then exercise caution. Your 10 year old might slip and die. Like, it sounds like they're kind of calling out that. That.

[E]

Yeah, it feels a little like unnecessary necessarily. Like, like judgmental. I don't know.

[D]

How dare you go on this trail. How dare you.

[E]

If you're happy falling to your death. I guess you'll have a great time on this trail. I mean.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

We've seen some kids do some pretty incredible things though, throughout. Like, kids have no fear.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

They're built different, so couldn't be me.

[D]

The physics of them bouncing down the cliffs, they survived. So they're just bouncing successfully, I guess.

[C]

All right. And then lastly, we're gonna wrap it up with some boat tour stuff because of course Acadia is on the water. Boat tours are wildly popular. And of course, how are you gonna go see the Puffins without being on a boat?

[E]

I mean.

[D]

Exactly.

[C]

You gotta get out there. And then certain times of year there's great whale watching and things like that. And there's like a lot of wildlife photography stuff. Stuff they do on boat tours and things. But I'm. I love a whale watch. I haven't been on one in quite a while, but I really enjoy them. Have you guys been.

[E]

I don't think I've ever done that.

[D]

No. Just the puffin watch and lighthouse. You know, I. I would love to though. I. That sounds so, so cool. I want to see like them. Dolphins.

[C]

Yeah, dolphins. Whales.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, we've done. I don't know. I think we did. The last one we did together was in Alaska.

[B]

Was it the whale watching? Like a whale watching tour?

[C]

Like the Wildlife boat tour thing that we did.

[B]

I mean, you could arguably say that when we went to Antarctica, that was a wildlife boating.

[E]

We went to Antarctica.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Remember when we were like, haha, have you been to the Middle East? We were like, I think so.

[D]

Of course. Every continent.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

We did a group trip trip to Antarctica last March.

[D]

And how do we. I'm. I'm getting on the next one. This is crazy.

[B]

Let us know how we bring you.

[C]

We're going to Norway next or next year.

[D]

I want to see a fjord.

[E]

Wow.

[C]

Yeah, you should. Yeah, you should.

[E]

I've already seen a fjord, so

[C]

she was not impressed. Being from the mountains, from the fjords.

[E]

Been there, done that. You know what I mean?

[C]

For them.

[B]

Well, this, this review is something. This one is from Taylor and it's from a year ago for the Bar harbor whale watch tour. They said do not go on this tour and gave it one star. My family and I went on this tour and 6 out of 10. It was truly something nightmares are made of. What? First, the company crams way too many people onto one bed boat. Good luck finding a seat anywhere outside. The boat goes at an insane speed. I have been on multiple boats and have never been on one that went so fast the entire time on this boat.

[D]

That is like the quickest way to show that you haven't been on that many boats. When you say I've been on multiple

[E]

boats, that's weird thing to say. Like.

[B]

Like three.

[E]

Yeah. Like a hammer.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And they were all rowboats.

[E]

Right.

[C]

And a ferry.

[E]

Like, what are you talking about?

[B]

It's comical that the company casually tells you over the speakers before taking off that passengers are free to walk about the boat as they desire. When in reality the boat is going so dangerously fast that walking around is incredibly difficult, requires you to hold on tightly. And I saw saw multiple people fall. How is this safe? This doesn't even compare to the vomit horror I witnessed for five hours straight.

[D]

Oh God.

[C]

Who are they?

[E]

Can't stand, they can't walk. Vomiting everywhere.

[B]

It's like, why are you guys on a boat? I prepared with multiple doses of Dramamine, hydration and pressure point bracelets. But due to the the speed and waves, I have never felt so sick in my entire life. It took all of my husband and I strength to not get sick. Meanwhile, over 50% of the passengers were vomiting on the floor, into bags and off the side of the floor.

[E]

I'd be done for.

[C]

Are you a contact vomiter? Like, oh no.

[B]

I would be out there with my ears.

[E]

Especially if I'M already nauseous. Like, I'm done for, you know, like

[D]

50% plus, like, there's something else is going on. There's a flu going. That's crazy.

[B]

I just jump off at that point. Yeah.

[E]

Really? The water's filled with vomit. I feel like. Careful.

[B]

That water is cold, too. People, including myself, were in tears and in the fetal position on the floor, waiting for the horrible ride to end.

[E]

God, this is like a nightmare from hell.

[B]

Not one person on the boat appeared to be having a good time, except

[E]

the guy driving it

[D]

might be having a great time except for having to watch them vomit. I. Yeah, that's a good.

[B]

Yeah. All of this horror for 20 minutes of apparent whale watching, which I could not even see due to the fear of getting out of my seat and having a breakdown.

[E]

I'm in fetal position on the floor.

[B]

I couldn't see the whales. I am so frustrated that I had to pay $150 for my husband and I to endure such horrific conditions and so many hours out of our short vacation, especially since we got to see a whale jump out of the water while we were on our hike along Otter Point in Acadia the next day for free. I would give this company and tour zero stars if I could.

[C]

Wow.

[E]

Wow, that's rough.

[D]

Yeah. At least they ended with a great cliche that we love. I'd give it zero stars if I could. Oh, my gosh. That's. I can't get. I'm just picturing all these people vomiting.

[E]

I mean, don't get me wrong. It sounds like a nightmare.

[D]

I mean.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I'd hate to be on that boat if it actually happened this way. I am so doubtful that this many people were like, yes, I do get seasick. Yes, I've only been on multiple boats. I'm gonna do this and throw up everywhere at 50.

[C]

I don't know. I'm also trying to picture this, what's happening here, because every whale watching tour I've. Like, especially if you're going out to specifically to see wildlife, you're not gunning it. Like, you're kind of.

[E]

Yeah, that's what I was wondering. I'm like, are they chasing the whale?

[B]

It's probably a normal speed.

[C]

Yeah. And also, they didn't mention, like, any sort of, like, bad weather or waves or anything. So, like, I will say, if you get seasick, it doesn't really matter. Like, I know that Cassie got seasick after we stopped.

[D]

Oh.

[B]

Because, like, God. Yeah. I gotten used to.

[E]

Oh, you're, like, suddenly wobbly. Yeah.

[B]

And then when we got on land, my body was just, like, so thrown, and I didn't throw up, but I was so nauseous for, like, two days. Just because.

[E]

It's the worst feeling.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I've been. I don't get seasick. So all my talking.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

I'm like, what are you talking about? I get seasick, like, instantly.

[D]

Yeah. But, like, I'm sorry. The way they described it, I'm like, there's no way. Yeah. Going so fast. And it's because of all this stuff. It's like, no.

[E]

You just get. And then everybody's sick.

[D]

You know, I got you. But I don't know. No, I don't know.

[E]

I'm more inclined to believe.

[D]

But then they. They stop at places there's no way. Yeah, they're just, like, doing circles around this pot of whales that obviously doesn't exist, so never mind. But what are they doing? They're just. I don't know.

[C]

And I also love that, like, the crew or, like, captain was just, like, letting it ride out. They're like, yeah, well, 50 of you are fine, so we're gonna keep going.

[E]

But that's okay.

[B]

Yeah. I feel like this, like, happened to an extent, but it's probably exaggerated because I'm thinking of when we did the Puffin tour when we were in Acadia. There were definitely people who were seasick, but there was probably, like, I don't know, six or seven people who were seasick. And then you saw a couple other people who, like, clearly weren't feeling okay, but it was fine, you know? So I feel like it probably happened, but it was probably a less percentage of the sickness.

[D]

But I remember is how many people. There were, like, a few hundred people. So, like.

[B]

Yeah, one ship in the fetal position on the ground.

[D]

No, like, these cruises are huge. I mean, I assume this one, too. I don't know if it was the same company I was on.

[E]

How many people are on this boat, would you say, do you think?

[C]

I would say probably at least a good 100.

[E]

Oh, okay.

[D]

Well, that I was on is, like, a giant.

[E]

I'm thinking 50% is, like, three out of six people on, like, a private.

[D]

No, I was thinking, like, tens of people, minimum.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

I suddenly have a lot less picturing. This is a lot less credible.

[D]

People just puking off.

[E]

No, no, no. Yeah, 50% is a little much.

[D]

So, yeah. My experience was different. Not that that necessarily means anything.

[E]

I was picturing much closer quarters and also, like. I mean, I guess it's close quarters with 100 people. But, like, I was picturing, like, a group of six.

[D]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah. Okay.

[C]

Yeah. I don't know. There are some people, though, that are like, you just gotta ride it out. Like, when we were in, we did a. Like, it was different because we were on, like, the little Zodiacs, you know, like, the little rubber boats that kind of, like, get deployed off of a bigger boat. We were doing that. We were going out to, like, this seal colony, and that was kind of sketchy. Like, talk about maybe we should turn around, like. And didn't. It was. The weather was, like, getting really bad. The waves were crazy. And they're like, we'll get on this boat. We're gonna. We're gonna actually gun it. I've been on multiple boats, so I have some experience on this. But they were like. Even I was like, this feels a bit sketchy. But they're like, we're going. We're going the fastest you've ever been on water. You're straddling the. You're not. They're like, hold on to this rope with your fingers.

[B]

And we're like, wedge your thighs into the side.

[C]

Wedge your side.

[D]

Exercise or something.

[C]

We're going out there. And then they're like, okay, we're here. We're next to this cliffside that all these waves are crashing so hard. They're like, don't get too close because you'll get. Get smashed onto the rocks. Jump in. And no life jackets, whatever. We're just in this. In these, like, wet suits. They're like, jump in. Didn't ask if we had, like, strong swimming experience. Nothing. We go in there, we're surrounded by hundreds of seals. And we had just been talking. We're like, oh, yeah. This is where they film, like, Shark Week for South Africa. Like, of all the great whites, like, coming and eating all the seals and stuff. People are fighting for their lives, like, drowning. People are getting, like, hypothermia. The waves are crazy.

[E]

What is wrong with you?

[C]

And nobody. None of the people were like, yeah, we should probably call it until after. They're like, oh, yeah. We canceled every other tour that day.

[B]

Well, me, I'm not a strong swimmer, and I'm in, like, these waves, and I see everyone swimming around. I'm like, this. I got back in the boat, and I.

[C]

And I asked.

[B]

Asked the captain. I was like, is this normal? Like, how you normally operate your normal.

[D]

That's a bad thing to have to ask?

[B]

And he was like, no, we've canceled everything for the day. Like, we're getting out of here after this. And he, like, we all load up and we're going in, and we can see the shore. But we're at the point right before the waves start breaking for the shore, because we've been riding out these. These pretty large waves, and I'm feeling a little seasick, and a couple other people are, too. And he stops us, and he's like, all right, everybody, what I need you to do is you're going to have to hold on tight. He's like, this is either going to go really well or really bad. He's like, I have to hit one of these waves. He's like, the waves are so big at this point that I have to hit a wave just right or we might flip. So I'm gonna ride this boat onto the beach, hopefully.

[C]

Yeah. There was no, like, dock. You just, like, gunned it onto the beach.

[B]

Onto the beach. And he was like, prepare, because we might flip in the water.

[A]

We might flip.

[B]

Once we hit the beach, like, we're gonna go. And I'm just sitting there. I'm like, what are we doing?

[C]

What are you doing here?

[E]

Oh, my God. How did I end up here?

[C]

I'm so far from home.

[E]

I want to go home.

[B]

I just get me out of this ocean right now. And I remember vividly, I hold onto these ropes, and I close my eyes, and my husband was with me at the time, and he just looks at me, and I'm like, close my eyes, put my head down. And this guy just guns it. And he hits the wave just right. And we land on shore, and we slightly tip over. Nothing dramatic. And I was just like, I have never jumped off a boat so fast.

[E]

You need a nap after that. Like a long nap. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And then we took a group photo, and we all look.

[E]

So I know we're like, like, green from.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like, we did it. We lived.

[C]

But I don't know.

[D]

He's like, oh, yeah, they're too. It can go really well or really bad. It sounds like it just could have gone, like, really bad or less bad all around.

[B]

We were out here for too long. This storm came in, and we're.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like, good luck. Everyone have your. Everyone buckled up.

[E]

Everyone have your life vests on.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, I did add one other review for this whale watch from the same company because I thought it was funny. This one is from Rochelle three years ago, and they gave one star. They said, great experience. We saw numerous whales and seals. The only negative part was when your employee yelled at Me, a bunch of people were crowding around trying to see a whale that surfaced. In an attempt to see a little better, I put my feet on the seat and leaned against the railing. The boat.

[D]

Sorry, I'm like, why are you doing that?

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Rule number one, put your feet on this.

[C]

What?

[E]

I just got it. I thought it was the other way

[D]

around on the railing. That's worse.

[E]

Well, I thought like sitting in the seat and put feet on the rail.

[D]

Oh.

[E]

And I thought, oh, you're just like putting your feet up. But no. Okay.

[B]

Wait, are they lean over the boat railing?

[C]

Oh, yeah, they're leaning over the boat.

[D]

Okay. Being higher off the. Oh my gosh.

[B]

Standing on a seat, leaning over. They tried to justify it by saying the boat was stopped. Your employee came over, very short with long brown hair and yelled at me to get down like I was a dog. She was very rude and disrespectful. I understand it was a safety concern, but she went about it completely wrong. My fiance and I spent a lot of money to go on this trip. And your employees trying to save your life, idiot. Like, come on, I'm doing my job.

[E]

Literally. Please don't die on me.

[D]

But she could have asked nicer. She could have said, please, do you mind getting your

[E]

off of the railing?

[B]

My fiance and I spent a lot of money to go on this trip. And your employees behavior definitely negatively affected the remainder of it. Teach that snot nose some respect.

[E]

Jesus. Like, it's always when the, like the, the vitriol on the other, like, comes back so much more intensely. I'm like, what is happening? Like, there's no reason you should be getting this upset and like cruel with your words.

[D]

You did something wrong that was unsafe. And then to be like, that's not.

[B]

I'm no dog.

[D]

How dare they that way?

[E]

Jesus. What are you talking about, dog? Like, I don't want to know.

[B]

Whenever you go on one of these ships, like one of the very first things that they say is keep all your limbs inside the boat. Do not lean over the railing, hammer into you for the first like 10 minutes of the ride. Yeah.

[E]

You sometimes have to be like, stop it. That's dangerous.

[D]

Like when you ran in the street that one time to try to get

[E]

hit by a toddler.

[D]

As a toddler. Not recently.

[E]

Not recently.

[C]

Okay.

[D]

And then she had to be told, you don't do that. She was like, I wanted to. I wanted to get hit by a car.

[E]

Okay, you did.

[D]

Am I wrong?

[C]

Who is older? Who's older?

[D]

She's older.

[C]

Oh, okay.

[E]

You weren't even there.

[C]

Were you born yet?

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

You were in an info.

[D]

I was in the car. No, she wanted to see if our mom would cry when she died.

[C]

Oh, yeah. I mean, that is a litmus test that.

[E]

Yeah. And then my mom goes, you wouldn't

[B]

have even seen me because you'd be dead.

[E]

And I went, oh, yeah.

[D]

Toddler bath. I don't know.

[C]

Anyway, well, thanks, guys, so much for. Do you want to come to Acadia now? Did we sell it for you?

[D]

Actually very wanted.

[E]

Nothing more.

[D]

Yeah, I. I have heard amazing things about it, so I will be very disappointed, but I look forward to going there in September.

[C]

I get open September, open.

[D]

No. Okay. That's the thing is, yes, I was technically in Acadia, but I was focused. I had. I had a goal. Lighthouse. Lighthouse. Like, I saw like, at least I think 10 lighthouses that day. So I was like, oh, that's impressive.

[C]

I. Yeah, you were on a schedule.

[D]

I really was. And I actually didn't even hit my number that I wanted. I think I wanted to get light like 30, so I have to come back for like, I think another 14 or something.

[C]

Did you go? Are you trying to get all of them in Maine?

[D]

That would be nice. There are so many that are like, you know, as, you know, on like, islands that aren't as accessible. But at least he's a strong swimmer. I am.

[B]

Swim over.

[E]

Just kidding.

[D]

That's. Yeah, just kidding. I'm not a strong swimmer, but. No, I want to see all of the lighthouses in the country. Ideally 700 one day. We'll see, but yeah, no Maine for sure. I do want to see as many as I can, at least. Yeah. And so in Canada that are up there too.

[E]

I'd love to see a puffin. So.

[D]

That is a lot of puffins.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

It's a good reason.

[C]

They are really small and it's so interesting that they're only. They're just really concentrated to that one area.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

They're like. It's a guarantee. We know they're here, which is super rare in, like, wildlife viewing stuff. It's like, it's a crapshoot. It's like, maybe we'll get lucky. But they're like, oh, no.

[D]

Wow.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

We got this moose tour reviews that Matt was. Talk about not sure.

[C]

Don't even get us started on moose. We have a whole thing on moose.

[E]

You already know about the moose. Yeah.

[C]

All right, well, did people see them? Are they pissed that they didn't see them? Is that the whole thing?

[E]

So that they didn't see them.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And then they were pissed.

[E]

Even if they saw the tour was just a DVD on the bus about moose.

[D]

They're like, the driver kept having to leave the bus to fix the dvd.

[E]

This is a night tour anyway. So, yeah, I've. Daytime puffin tour. I'm in.

[C]

Yeah. We say moose aren't real because we've never seen them in New England, even though they're like, supposedly all over the place. Everywhere.

[D]

Big.

[B]

I imagine they're hard to miss.

[D]

I don't know.

[C]

We've seen them in other parts of the country, but never here. And allegedly I had to look it up because I. Well, we're from New Hampshire and like, New Hampshire is kind of small. Right. And we're like, how many moose can really be in New Hampshire? But now that I'm in Maine, like, how many moose are in Maine? Allegedly, there's almost 70,000 moose here.

[E]

Jesus.

[D]

Allegedly. I agree.

[C]

Allegedly.

[D]

I love that because I'm like.

[C]

I'm like, I haven't seen them.

[B]

Where?

[C]

What? Where? Yeah, they're certainly not anywhere near a

[B]

little city,

[D]

like rural Maine. Yeah.

[E]

Maybe they're just not in the other town. Pounds. Or just in their one.

[D]

I love that idea.

[E]

Wow.

[C]

Yeah. So anyway, well, thank you guys so much for coming on and tell everyone about your show really quick.

[E]

Yeah, thank you so much for having us. This is an honor. I know we do have a lot of crossover of listeners and you guys put on such a great show, so thank you for having us. We host a podcast called beach to Sandy, Water Too Wet. We read one star reviews in a dramatic fashion as you just kind of encountered all of us doing. And you can find us anywhere. You listen to find podcasts such as this one.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

What has been. Before you go, I have to ask, do you guys have like a favorite topic topic that you've covered?

[E]

That's a great question.

[D]

I will say, and I'm not just saying this. What did we just record? We recorded something that was so. Oh, dude ranches. We just recorded an episode.

[E]

There was a lot of horse humor in that one too.

[D]

Wild. Like, that was one of the most surprising, funny, like times. Searching for reviews.

[E]

I think it's when people go outside, think all bets are off. Like, people, myself included, are like, whoa, what's happening out here? Like, help.

[D]

You know, seen all the national park reviews that people are like, they've discovered bugs for the first time.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. This is crazy. I wasn't expecting this live show in

[D]

Salt Lake City and that has One of my favorite reviews, because it was someone going, I don't think it was Salt Lake, but it was. Or it was a park right by the salt lake or something. And there are so many bugs. And they were talking about, oh, Antelope.

[B]

Antelope Island.

[E]

Yes, that sounds right. And someone did their wedding photos there.

[D]

There was someone dressed as a vampire. Like, went outside and experienced, like 10 things that you shouldn't experience outside and then complain about the things you do experience.

[E]

She was in a wedding dress. She's like, I started sinking into the sand. And then I realized it wasn't sand. It was just tens of thousands of bugs. And I'm like a nightmare.

[D]

One dressed as a vampire.

[E]

Oh. And then. And then the guy dressed as a vampire took my ticket and I'm like, are you crazy?

[B]

What dimension are you in?

[E]

Where are you?

[D]

Yeah, it's hard to pick, but I will say, like, the.

[E]

Any outdoor ones really do always kind of present some. Some challenges for humanity.

[D]

I'm excited for what we've got in store for you because you're gonna be.

[E]

Oh, that's right. Oh, my gosh. We gotta say that. That too.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. We're going to do, like a part two type of thing.

[E]

That's right. You got to follow up to find out what happens, you know?

[C]

That's right. I'm interested, Cassie, if you listen to the dude. Because she kind of worked on one.

[B]

I did work on one. Cass is so curious if any of the reviews are from the one I worked on.

[E]

State.

[D]

Were you in? Was it Wyoming? Okay.

[E]

Did we read. I read a lot.

[D]

I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, you had a weird. We. I feel like you only read Whiskey

[E]

because I only read reviews from that one person named Andy who lives in

[D]

Andy, who just was like, oh, I know. And then gave a lot of good reviews. But I'm trying to think. Wyoming feels like one of those places. Feels like a cowboy.

[E]

Cowboy country, but it also feels like

[D]

a place where people understand how dude ranches work. Like, what's.

[C]

You'd be surprised.

[E]

You go. When you're, like, trying to experience. Yeah. Anyway.

[D]

Yeah. Did you.

[B]

You know, I've never read the reviews on that. That branch that I worked at. Now I feel like I need to.

[D]

Did you. Do you have any. A review of any, like, specific people you interacted with? A crazy experience?

[E]

A counter review, if you will.

[B]

Counter review.

[E]

I.

[B]

Not a bad review there. I remember there was this one woman who. She. It's not a bad review of her. It's. She went Horseback riding. And she was older and she fell and she broke her hip and she ended up having to stay out there way longer. And she was such a good sport about it. And her husband was like, well, I guess I'll just hang out at the dude ranch and go horseback riding and do all those things while she's in surgery. And then I actually came back to visit. I mean, I'm sure he was at the hospital when she was in surgery and stuff. But then I came back to visit a few years later and she was back visiting again, horseback riding. And I was like, that is. And it was just such a freak thing that I was there at the same time because it was like years later I just happened to be in the area, stopped by to visit old co workers and she was there off riding. She was on a horse when I saw her.

[E]

Wait a second.

[D]

It's nice to know after all those one star reviews be like, oh, those people exist who break their hip and come back like immediately.

[B]

Yeah, you know, she didn't leave a bad review. She's like, I'm back.

[C]

I love that.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Awesome. Well, thanks guys so much. And we'll, I guess in like a, a week or so maybe we'll do it this all again.

[B]

Perfect.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Can't wait.

[E]

Can't wait.

[B]

Yeah. We're excited to be on your podcast.

[E]

Thanks for having us.

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