Jen Hatmaker was a rockstar in evangelical circles in the late 2000s. She founded and co-led a church with her husband and headlined Christian women’s conferences around the country as a sought after speaker. She ran a popular blog with millions of followers and published several books and Bible studies, coaching women on marriage and family as a wife and mother of five. So when Jen announced that her 26-year marriage had come to an end in September 2020, she sent shockwaves throughout her community.

Forced to rebuild her private life and public image at the same time, Jen came face-to-face with the truth that what she’d been taught to believe, and even teach others, no longer made sense to her. But in her grief and recovery, she discovered a new understanding of her faith, one that holds two simple beliefs: love God and love people. “There's gotta be a ‘we over me,’” Jen tells Tim in this week’s episode “It is good for our souls and our minds and our lives to care about other people and to say…What does the common good look like here? If my neighbor is suffering, then I am suffering. Period.”

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Jen Hatmaker is the New-York Times bestselling author of For The Love, Of Mess and Moxie, Fierce, Free, and Full of Fire, and Feed These People, along with 10 other books. She hosts the award-winning For the Love podcast and is the delighted curator of the Jen Hatmaker Book Club. She is also the leader of a tightly knit online community where she reaches millions of people each week.

Jen is a co-founder of the Legacy Collective, a giving organization that grants millions of dollars towards sustainable projects around the world. She is a mom to five kids, and lives just outside Austin, Texas.

Learn more about her work on her website, jenhatmaker.com

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Our theme music was written by Andy Ogden and produced by Tim Lauer, Andy Ogden and Julian Raymond. All other music that you hear in this episode is courtesy of Epidemic Sound.

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