Podcast Summary: Nephilim Death Squad – "Christian Embarrassment - The Book of Genesis w/ Ed Mabry"
Episode Information:
- Title: Christian Embarrassment - The Book of Genesis w/ Ed Mabry
- Hosts: TopLobsta Productions (David Lee Corbo as The Raven) and Raven (Top Lobster)
- Guest: Ed Mabry
- Release Date: February 28, 2025
Introduction to the Episode and Guest
In the second episode of the ongoing Book of Genesis series, Nephilim Death Squad welcomes Ed Mabry, a prominent figure in Christian apologetics and biblical scholarship. The hosts, Top Lobster and David Lee Corbo, delve into the complexities of Genesis, exploring topics that challenge mainstream Christian interpretations and address the consequent sense of embarrassment some believers feel towards the foundational biblical narratives.
Ed Mabry introduces his work and platforms, emphasizing his commitment to providing in-depth biblical analysis:
[01:56] Ed Mabry: "If you're a Christian, you know the what. But I, I want to help you understand the why and why why it makes sense why you don't have to have these blind leaps and why you don't have to be embarrassed about anything."
Exploring Pre-Existence and Spiritual Beings
The conversation kicks off with the intriguing question of whether humans existed in a spiritual form before their physical existence on Earth. David Corbo poses a nuanced question to Ed Mabry regarding the interpretation of biblical verses that suggest pre-existence:
[05:37] David Lee Corbo: "Do you believe that we existed before we were here in this world in a physical way?"
Ed Mabry clarifies that while God's spirit is eternal, humans as created beings do not pre-exist before their physical creation. He elaborates on the Hebrew interpretation of "forming" in Jeremiah, indicating that God's knowledge of individuals begins at the point of physical conception:
[06:49] Ed Mabry: "Eternity means without end. But we were not. We didn't exist in the past. We didn't exist before we were created."
Interpretation of Genesis Verses
Delving deeper into Genesis, Ed Mabry and the hosts analyze specific biblical texts to debunk misconceptions about pre-existence. They discuss the Hebrew word for "form" and its implications on understanding God's relationship with humanity:
[12:11] Ed Mabry: "So when he says he knows you, what does that mean? That's information. He knew what you were going to be."
This leads to a discussion on the nature of God's omniscience without implying eternal pre-existence of souls.
The Shroud of Turin and Spiritual Imprints
The conversation transitions to the Shroud of Turin, exploring its mystical aspects and potential connections to spiritual phenomena. David Corbo speculates on the possibility of a spiritual imprint coinciding with the moment of soul infusion:
[13:38] David Lee Corbo: "Maybe when a soul re. Enters a body, period, there's a flash of light."
Ed Mabry shares his initial skepticism towards the Shroud but acknowledges growing evidence that piqued his interest:
[14:57] Ed Mabry: "But the more evidence I see, the more interesting it becomes."
AI and Spiritual Entities
A lighter yet pertinent segment addresses the intersection of artificial intelligence and spiritual beliefs. Ed Mabry recounts his unsettling interactions with AI, highlighting concerns about AI's influence on human consciousness and spiritual well-being:
[16:33] Ed Mabry: "I had a debate with it about evolution... I felt so uneasy afterwards... I can't see us."
The hosts humorously lament their challenges with AI while recognizing its potential role in modern spiritual dynamics.
Hierarchy and Nature of Angels
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to understanding the hierarchy and true nature of angels (Elohim) as depicted in the Bible. Ed Mabry clarifies common misconceptions, emphasizing that "angel" is a job title rather than a proper name:
[40:00] Ed Mabry: "Angel is not the proper term for these beings because angel is our English version or our transliterated version of the Greek word angelos, which just means messenger."
The discussion unfolds into the various classes of angels, including Seraphim and Cherubim, explaining their roles and appearances in biblical texts. They explore the Seraphim's representation of different life classes on Earth and the fallen Cherubim associated with Satan.
Reptilian Conspiracies and Nephilim
Connecting biblical lore to contemporary conspiracy theories, the hosts and Ed Mabry examine the concept of Reptilians and their origins as fallen angels or Nephilim. They critique popular theories, such as the Anunnaki, and propose their own interpretations based on biblical accounts:
[54:51] David Lee Corbo: "People are seeing something... they're seeing these hybrid offspring, these Nephilim, offspring of seraphim and human beings."
Ed Mabry argues that reptilian entities in conspiracies could be remnants of these fallen classes of angels, integrating biblical narrative with modern mythos.
Conclusion and Resources
As the episode wraps up, Ed Mabry shares resources for listeners to engage further with his work, including his website faithbyreason.net and his Patreon for exclusive content. The hosts encourage listeners to explore these platforms to deepen their understanding of Genesis and related theological discussions.
[69:02] Ed Mabry: "You can you get access to bonus material, new stuff that I put out first, Q and A's..."
The episode concludes with a teaser for the next installment, promising to delve into the rebellion of angels and further unravel the mysteries of Genesis.
Notable Quotes:
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Ed Mabry on God's knowledge:
[06:49] "Eternity means without end. But we were not. We didn't exist in the past. We didn't exist before we were created."
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David Corbo on AI's influence:
[16:50] "It's almost got even a certain amount of excitement for, like, theories. When you give it theories..."
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Ed Mabry on the nature of Elohim:
[40:00] "Angel is not the proper term for these beings because angel is our English version or our transliterated version of the Greek word angelos, which just means messenger."
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Ed Mabry on theistic evolution:
[25:56] "And I have a buddy of mine, a good friend who is a devout Catholic... when an intelligent person starts to see the cracks in Catholicism... they either go to true Christianity or become a raging atheist."
Resources Mentioned:
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Ed Mabry’s Platforms:
- Website: faithbyreason.net
- YouTube Channel: Faith by Reason
- Patreon: Patreon.com/faithbyreason
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Upcoming Content:
- Bible Study: Jehovah Story Book Club
- Next Episode Topics: Rebellion of Angels, Further Analysis of Genesis 1 and 2
Closing Remarks: The episode offers a profound exploration of Genesis through the lens of biblical scholarship and conspiracy theory, challenging listeners to reconsider traditional interpretations and encouraging deeper theological engagement. Ed Mabry provides a thought-provoking perspective that intersects faith, science, and modern-day conspiracies, making it a compelling listen for those interested in the hidden facets of biblical narratives.
