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10: The Book of Genesis w/ Ed Mabrie - Israel in Genesis
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Join hosts David L. Corbo and TopLobsta with special guest Ed Mabrie as they dive deep into “Israel in Genesis,” Episode 10 of the Nephilim Death Squad Genesis series. In this episode, we unpack God’s promise to Abraham in Genesis 12—“I will bless...
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Top Lobster
Top Lobster Productions.
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David Lee Corbo
We are being hypnotized by people like this. News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely enormous.
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Top Lobster
Oh yeah, dude, this some Nephilim.
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David Lee Corbo
It's like we all know what's going down but no one's saying what happened.
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Ed Mabry
To the home of the brave? They control this now when no one's.
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David Lee Corbo
Talking about how they made us finally.
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Ed Mabry
Slaves and everybody's just walking around heading the closet won't awaken to a dead in the grave. But then it's too late. We need to be ready to raise up. Welcome to the end of day.
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David Lee Corbo
Everybody is slave. Only some are aware that the government releasing poison in the.
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Ed Mabry
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven. That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation. And today we are continuing. It's not Friday. Exact. What is today? Today's Thursday.
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Top Lobster
Wednesday.
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Ed Mabry
Today's Wednesday. Good God.
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Top Lobster
Wednesdays.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Ed Mabry
Wednesdays are for the Lord. Guys, we are continuing the Book of Genesis series with Ed May. But before we get into that, a quick little announcement. If you guys are looking to watch the raw, unedited version of Bohemian Grove, it's 12 hours of content. It currently lives on patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad. Sign up for the ten dollar tier. Gain access to all 12 hours of the insanity. No cuts or anything like that. It's just one straight stream for six hours and another one for six hours the next day. And if you guys are into that sort of thing, if you feel like you missed out, we'll head over to patreon.com backslash nephilim death squad. Also a bunch of perks over there like ad free viewing experiences, engaging in the live chat when we go behind the paywall and access to the backlog content. We did the math the other day. We're trying. I don't know if you guys have been noticing on, on YouTube and on Rumble. We're chipping away. We're chipping it away. We're like 25 episodes behind. That's crazy. 25 episodes behind on rumble on YouTube. So that is. That's when I talk about the huge backlog that you guys are getting access to on Patreon. That is what I'm talking about. So patreon.com backslash nephilim death squad for all of those goodies. All right, guys, joining us today on a Wednesday, but it's better Wednesday than, Than not, right? I suppose that's how it goes. It's Ed Mabry and we are back to continue the Book of Genesis discussion. But before we do, Ed, where can everybody find your work and support you?
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David Lee Corbo
Sure. So first of all, we have to apologize for being late. Someone put in. Yes, Black people time. No, no, it's called Colored people's time. It's cpt.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, we fall under that banner too. I think. I believe somebody said if, if anybody on this show was white, fully white, then. So then it would be on time.
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Top Lobster
But I gotta apologize. No, but you know what, though? Is Sam white? I guess Armenian is not really white.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, he kind of, he fluctuates between, between Armenian, Italian.
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Top Lobster
He's not white either. But I, I feel their pain because I was, I was trying to listen to one of his shows, I think, Broken Sim, and he was like, oh, it's live. And I was in the chat at like, whatever time it was supposed to go on, and he was like 10 minutes, 15 minutes late. And I was like this, It's a feeling of uncertainty, like, am I in the right place? Are they ever going to come? It's a horrible feeling.
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David Lee Corbo
Right.
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Ed Mabry
Stream.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, that was totally me. I, I tried to be on time and it just, I don't know, something genetic. I, I, I, I was going to log in at, at like 15 minutes early, but then, like, stuff kept happening. My kids were screwing around. But anyway, here we go.
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Ed Mabry
That's what he said, Ed. Before, when he showed up, he was like, I was planning on being here 15 minutes early, but instead he just sat at the computer and his hand wouldn't click the button, it just wouldn't activate to click the button on the mouse until all my ancestors were, like.
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David Lee Corbo
Holding my hand back, like, no, not yet.
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Top Lobster
Not yet. The truth is we, we Talked for like 15 minutes. You were here at 1. Exactly at 1. But we talked because we don't respect the audience. But tell them where they could find you.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah. So. And Fridays isn't Friday the 4th. That's why we, you're not doing it this Friday. That's a holiday.
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Ed Mabry
So that's exactly what it is. Yeah, we had a couple of shows that we mistakenly booked and had to cancel a few, but we're still going to end up working on Friday. But in the morning. In the morning. But where can everybody find your work?
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David Lee Corbo
So faithbyreason.net is my legacy site. That's where you'll find like all my material that I've been doing for a decade plus. I need to update that actually. I have a few more things I need to add that I've, that I've published since then. But, and that's because I put most of my new, all my new stuff goes on my Patreon. So that's where I am recommending everyone go. That's where you will get. Everything's going to drop first there. Actually, the next Genesis, the episode is going to drop. It should drop today. I was editing it last night. I should be done editing it today. So part eight of the Genesis series should be up later today or early tomorrow at the latest. But you also get the Q and A's there. You ask me questions. I do videos on them. I, I, I have one I'm planning on doing this week on some questions that I got. Also you get bonus episodes. You're not going to find anyplace else. And if you go to the second tier, then you can be part of the monthly Bible study where we go through the entire Bible in 12 months, once a month from the supernatural point of view, looking at things from the spiritual standpoint, which is again, 80% of the Bible. So if you're missing that, you're, it may be why you're having difficulty understanding what's going on there. So, yeah, that's where you can find me also on the, my free feeds I'm on, you know, X and, and Instagram and Facebook and all those other places. But that's, that's, and YouTube, of course. And, and like you guys, I'm behind on my, on my Rumble. I haven't been, I need to put up some more Rumble videos. I, I gotta start getting that stuff up there regularly. But yeah, those are the free fees. But Patreon is where it's at. And Faith by reason dot net.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, I was just listening to maybe a couple days ago your latest on the audio. I forget exactly what it was about, but you were covering like, I think maybe you were talking about the Fallen. You were covering Daniel chapter 10 and different prophetic visions and, and prophecies like that. Good episode. Good episode. I would suggest people go check it out and subscribe there. So.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah, because it might have been on Spotify or one of those. Yeah, it was just audio is probably one of. Yeah, because I'm on all the audio channels as well. I, I think whatever I put it on, it just shoots it out to, to everything.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, thank God for services like that, because if not, I don't think we would exist anywhere. We would go live and then it would just be lost to obscurity. But, yeah, you know, those, those video platforms are a little bit more demanding, and so just by, by nature, they end up being a little bit behind, I don't know, about 25 episodes behind. Like I said, that's where we are right now. But we're working diligently to try to catch that up. Ed, where we were talking a little bit before the show and we were talking about Tucker Carlson's conversation and, you know, just the state of Israel and what's going on. And you said that that kind of folds into the bigger picture, what we're going to talk about today. So we're. Do you want to start in regards to that?
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. So we're talking about Genesis because I'm doing my Genesis series, but we, on this show, we just kind of, kind of riff back and forth on, on some theoretical stuff as I'm kind of putting things together because I'm, I'm still on chapter two, Genesis, eight episodes in. So there's a lot of, a lot of stuff to come. But there's, it's such a complex book and there's so many aspects of it that people are interested in because again, if you understand Genesis, you understand the entire Bible because it's all there, including the promises to Israel. And I wanted to talk about some of that on this show because, you know, we very recently, I mean, throughout the month of June, they're in continuing. There's a lot of stuff happening in the geopolitical world with Israel, Iran, the United States, where all these things fit. And so I've gotten a lot of questions from my followers, a lot of whom are either new Christians or Christians who lapse and are coming back. And they appreciate me and I appreciate them, but they appreciate the fact that I just, you know, I just talk straight. I don't. There's no pretentious here. This here. I'm not, you know, all high holy kind of, you know, you can't, like, I'm not a real person. I, I think I talk like real person. There's no, basically, I just speak plain. And I think a lot of younger Christians appreciate that. And a lot of Christians who kind of fell away and want and still believe in God, but don't want to get caught up in all the liturgy and all that nonsense and, you know, wearing robes and collars and all that stuff. I Think they appreciate what I do. And of course, I appreciate them as well. So they've been asking me for my perspective on this and what, what should the church's position be regarding the modern state of Israel, Jews in general, Israelites, Hebrews, whatever you want to call them. And so I thought that since. Yeah, there we go. So, yeah, so let's just start with this, because this gets into the Genesis aspect of it. So I'm sure many of you saw the interview between Ted Cruz and, and Tucker Carlson where Cruz was saying that, as he learned in Sunday school, if you're a Christian, you have to support Israel. And Tucker was saying, well, does that mean the modern state of Israel? What does that mean? And where, where's the mandate come from? And, you know, it. It comes from Genesis, chapter 12, I think, verse three.
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Ed Mabry
And.
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David Lee Corbo
But he couldn't quote it directly, which tells me that he's kind of, he's kind of parroting what he's heard elsewhere. And I know that I'm not. Again, I don't. I'm not a big politics guy. You guys are more into politics than I am. But I. From what I understand, he gets a pretty significant chunk of money from, from certain lobbyists.
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Ed Mabry
Right. Many such cases. You know, Ed, let me ask you about that, though. So it's like, let's say, supporting, let's say even, even the government of Israel or, or the, you know, the state of Israel. What are we exactly called to do when it comes to this, this notion of support? Like, it would be, it would make sense to me if you were to say, yeah, sure, the government of Israel and, and the state of Israel are, are corrupt, but, you know, still pray for them. Pray for them to, to come to, you know, the path of God and to, to come to the recognition that, you know, that Jesus is the way, the truth and the light. You know what I mean? So, like, that is a form of support, is it not?
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David Lee Corbo
It is. So let's just look at the top pulling up again, because I, I want to look at the definitions of these things because this is really where it comes from. And then I want to get into Christian Zionist versus replacement theologists, which are the extremes of these. But let's just look at what this says. This is God's mandate to Abraham in Genesis, chapter 12. So still pretty early on, he says, I'll make you a great nation. So he's talking about a nation. He says, I will bless you and make your name great, and you will be a blessing, and I will bless them. That Bless you and curse them that curse you. I'm paraphrasing a little bit here. So first of all, let's talk about what these definitions of blessing and cursing is, because that's really important. Because I mean, without the right definition. I think I've said before here and elsewhere that most arguments and disagreements come from people having the same vocabulary but different dictionaries. So we need to agree on what these things mean biblically, not our opinions. So biblically speaking, blessing and blessings and cursings are primarily start with words. Okay. To bless someone is to speak well of them. To curse someone means to speak ill or poorly of them. So that's the most denotative. But you can carry that over into a prophetic sense. It means saying something about them and then doing it or saying or hoping these things happen to them. So let's. So if I were to bless you, I would say, hey, Top, you know what? I hope that you have a great day and your family is going to be great and you're just going to have a wonderful career. And you know, and, and, and, and Raven, you know, I, I hope that, you know, you, your, your house is great and you're. And that you prosper all those. That's me speaking a blessing to you. I'm speaking well of you. And also in the prophetic sense, I'm wishing you well. And if I have the power to do something about it.
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Ed Mabry
I'm sorry, this is like a spiritual thing, right? It's not like, like to bless Israel isn't to go and like fund the government of Israel with material. Yeah, here's money for bombs instead. It's a spiritual thing.
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David Lee Corbo
It is. That's what a blessing is. And it can. But remember we talked about this before. I think we talked about maybe last week, or at least I know we talked about it in the past, that when you speak things spirit, spiritually in, in one realm, you were speaking with the intention of them manifesting. So my, my blessing is for you guys to have all those great things I just said. That is me blessing you now if I have the means to make it happen. If I say, you know, I hope you get a new house and then I happen to have the means to make it happen and I have 100 grand, well, so be it. But the blessing was me saying it. Cursing is the same way we look in the Bible. When someone is cursed, when God curses he, he'll pronounce a judgment. When he cursed the nakash, the serpent in the Garden of Eden, he said, you know, on your belly you will go, and you dust and so forth and so on. That was a curse. It was done with words. But because of, because it was God doing it. Everything God says is going to happen because he's God. And, but, but when we, so we told to bless Israel is to speak well of them and, and, but to speak well of him in the same light as God does, that's really important. Not to say Israel can do no wrong. That's not a blessing. That's kind of, that's actually foolish. Everyone does things wrong. I mean, if you look in the Bible I, I said on, on a podcast I did maybe about a week ago, that if, if speaking ill of Israel makes you antisemitic, then God's the biggest anti Semite in history. If you read what he says about them in the Old Testament, he talked, you know, if you read the book of Jeremiah, for example, where he says, you guys are stiff necked, you're a bunch of check, basically a bunch of jackasses, you keep screwing up, I'm gonna divorce you, you're gonna be, I'm gonna strip you nake wilderness kind of thing. That's. If, if I were to say that about the current nation, I, I'd be labeled antisemite. So it's not necessarily saying that they can do no wrong. What it means is, I think close to what you were saying, Raven, I want what God wants for you. Yeah, it says to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. Well, the ultimate peace of Jerusalem is going to happen during the millennial reign. So when you say, I'm praying for the peace of Jerusalem, you're praying for the return of Jesus to set up the millennial kingdom. When you say I want, I, I hope that God's people come to Christ. I think that's probably the best blessing you can give them is to say, I, you're most of them. Yes, there's plenty of messianic Jews, of course, who've been saved, but most of Israel is either secular or still in Judaism and Orthodox Judaism. And I pray that you know who your Messiah is and you come to salvation. That's blessing Israel. Cursing him is the opposite. Saying that, you know, when certain people in certain other countries say, you know, death to you, I hope you wipe you off the face of the planet, you shouldn't exist, that sort of thing. That's cursing. So those are blessings and cursings.
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Top Lobster
Okay, so I'll take it a step further. And so, all right, we're supposed to bless Israel, like with, with our words. And like, I. Okay, I understand that. But Jesus seemed to curse Israel with his words. When he curses the fig tree, that's a literal curse on the tree. It dies, but he curses it because he's like, you're supposed. You're showing leaves, but you have no fruit. He's not talking about. It's. I mean, sure, maybe he was angry with the tree, but I don't think he was angry with the tree.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, yeah, yeah, he did that. That was a symbol. He was showing that you look good but you're not producing anything. So the curse he put on them in his. The reason that God can do that is because God is 100, just his justice is complete. If we try to do something harmful, we don't have enough information to make to. To actually execute that justice. So we're gonna. We're gonna screw it up and we're gonna end up on the wrong side of justice. That's why we leave justice to God. So, yeah, you're right. Top that, that when he struck the fig tree, he was saying that, you know, you. Because you're supposed to have fruit and you don't. Same thing with. With at the time Israel, they, you know, were supposed to be having fruit. They had a temple, they had the Pharisees, and they had all these holy men, but they weren't producing the fruit anymore.
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Top Lobster
But inside you're like, you're like a. You know, outwardly your, Your tombs are. Are nice, but you're filled with bones. That's crazy. That's a crazy curse to say to somebody.
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David Lee Corbo
It really is. Because especially if you understand what. How Jewish people, Israelites felt about death, because it was. You were not allowed to touch something that was dead. That was a. That was not a part of the law. The, the law was you don't touch anything dead. And that's because when you.
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Ed Mabry
I'm sorry.
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David Lee Corbo
And it was because of superstition, it was praying for.
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Top Lobster
David, we're praying for.
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David Lee Corbo
I know. I saw it too. So. Because, because when you touch dead things, you could get disease. I mean, if you just. A dead animal, you touch it, you're liable to get it. So that's why it was a practical thing. But, you know, because the Pharisees are very religious, they take a practical thing like, you know, don't touch dead stuff because you could get a disease from and say, oh, well, it's unholy. We're too good for debt. So Jesus said, yeah, you guys are like whitewashed tombs. You're like, if someone took a. A tomb and just painted over it. Yeah, that's what you guys are. On the surface, you look good, but inside you're filled with dead men's bones. And that's why it's so funny when people say, oh, Jesus was the nicest, sweetest guy who ever walked here. They never said anything bad about anyone. That's because you're reading the. The Bible in that. That polite King James where everything, you know, has that thou and thee and. And. And blessed art thou.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
No, Jesus said. He calls him a generation of vipers, descendants of serpents. He says, you're of your father, the devil. Those. It was equivalent of being cursed out. Jesus did not hold.
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Top Lobster
That's worse. It's worse than being cursed out. I'd rather you curse me out than say like that to me. That's wild. Yeah, It's a generational curse. What do you do?
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Ed Mabry
It's. It's a great way to. To engage in that conversation where a lot of people, especially, like boomers, right, will just say blanketly, like, oh, we're supposed to support Israel. And it's like, what does that mean, support? And you have that conversation, you think. Do you think that God cares about you supporting their military moves or supporting their. Their. Their economy or any of these things? It's like, no, God cares about the spiritual. So.
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David Lee Corbo
Right.
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Ed Mabry
And. And. And what is. What's ultimately the best thing to wish upon somebody spiritually is that they come to Christ. So.
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David Lee Corbo
Yes. So taking it back to. To the verse, it doesn't. That word bless is not. Is not the same word as support the way we mean it. Like you were just saying, Raven. So blessing means speak well of them, hope for the best for them, speak the best for them. But it also says that I will make you a great nation. Because then you have the other extreme where I was, you know, listening to. I think. I think it may have been Candace Owens, who. She was commentating on the. The Cruz Carlson interview, and she was saying. Or she brought on some other Catholic guy, and that her. Her hyper Catholicism. Her hyper Catholic Catholicism is really raising the heckles. Not because I have a problem with Catholic people. That's fine. My wife was raised Catholic. My best friend was raised Catholic. That's not the problem. The issue is that for her has been so sudden and so extreme that I don't trust that. But anyway, she had on some Catholic commentator who came on and said, well, that only applied to Abraham to. To, you know, whatever, four or five, 4,000 years ago. And. And so it applies to no One else. And so if you say that, you know, unless you are living during the time of Abraham, then this, this prophecy does not apply to you. And that's not true. That's the other extreme. It, God says, I will make you a nation.
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Ed Mabry
Right.
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David Lee Corbo
And so it applies to the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, whoever they might be. We'll get into that in a second. But nation does not necessarily. And Tucker did bring up a good point where he says, when he asked Ted Cruz, does this mean the borders of current Israel and the current government? And Ted Cruz either wasn't. He wasn't. Either wasn't astute enough or just, you know, didn't bother to, to understand that it doesn't refer to a particular government. That word nation, when you get to the actual word. And, and when it gets to Greek, that word is ethnos, which, where we get the word ethnic. So that when God talks about nations, he talks, he's talking about groups of people, not necessarily borders. Although, yes, that land is also Israel. And that's something else that's very important because people try to separate the two. Separate the land versus the people. No, they're both Israel. God made a covenant with that land. That particular, that real estate is sacred to God because it's his area that he set aside for his people. Now does. That doesn't. And the borders, we've talked about this before. The current borders are not the land grant that God gave originally to the, the Israelites when they left Exodus, they were supposed to have everything from the river of Egypt, the Nile to the Euphrates. That's a huge area that they don't currently occupy. And, and they could have taken it, but they decided they, they were, they didn't want to keep fighting to take the promised land. They're like, we got enough. We're good. And they just left the rest of the land to their enemies and their enemies still occupy to this day. So it is both. But it doesn't necessarily mean the governments because we know that all the governments weren't great because they got exiled. The 10 northern tribes got taken over by the Assyrians, and then the two southern tribes who did well for a while, they got taken over by the Babylonians and they got kicked out of the land because that land is important. So all that to say that the blessings and cursings are intended for the people, the, the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and for the land that God allotted for them. So speak well of those. If you speak poorly of them, then God will. So the other Part is he will bless you. He'll. God will speak well of you, prophetically, if you bless them, and he will speak ill of you if you speak ill of them. But if you're neutral, well, then he's not going to do one, one or the other. So that's what's really important to understand. That's, that's what, that, that's what it means. The blessings and cursings.
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Ed Mabry
Top do you think we could bring up that? Because I've actually never seen the clip, the, the Tucker and, and Ted Cruz clip. I heard that it, it went, you know, pretty negatively for him. It's been a wild time for, for everything that's going on in Israel and with Iran. I mean, when we were on stage at Bohemian Grove is when Trump basically attacked Iran. I think it was like three missile strikes on, on three different nuclear facilities, allegedly. And, and then he makes a tweet or a, you know, a truth social post about it. And, and so things have been getting really wild in regards to, I guess, proximity to, to World War 3 or something like that. But this, this Ted Cruz interview, did this happen before that? Top. Or, or, or after that? It was really, really close. Like right before, though, right?
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, I think. Yeah, it was shortly before.
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Top Lobster
I'll play a clip, but I don't know if this is exactly going to be. So he's, like, questioning Ted about different geopolitical things and Ted squirming. Let's see what this, what happens here.
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Ed Mabry
I don't know the population at all. No, I don't know the population.
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David Lee Corbo
You don't know the population of the.
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Ed Mabry
Country you seek to topple? How many people living around 92 million.
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David Lee Corbo
Okay. Yeah.
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Ed Mabry
How could you not know that? I don't sit around memorizing population tables. Well, it's kind of relevant because you're.
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David Lee Corbo
Calling for the overthrow of the government.
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Ed Mabry
Why is it relevant? Whether it's because 90 million or 80 million or 100 million.
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David Lee Corbo
Why?
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Ed Mabry
Because if you don't know anything about the country. I didn't say I don't know anything about. Okay. What's the ethnic mix of Iran? They are Persians and predominantly Shia. Okay, you don't know anything about Iran. So.
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David Lee Corbo
Okay.
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Ed Mabry
I am not the Tucker Carlson expert on Iran. You're a senator who's calling. You're the one who claims about the country. No, you don't know anything about the country. You're the one who claims they're not trying to murder Donald Trump. You know, I'm not saying that. Who can't figure out if it's a good idea to kill General Soleimani.
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David Lee Corbo
And you said it was bad.
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Ed Mabry
They're trying to murder Trump.
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David Lee Corbo
Trump. Yes, I do.
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Ed Mabry
Because you're not calling for military strikes against them in retaliation. And if you really believe that carrying out military strikes today, you said Israel was right with our help. I said we, Israel is leading them.
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Top Lobster
But we're, that's, that's an interesting slip of the tongue as well.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. I think sounds like he knew that they were about to bomb him. Right?
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Top Lobster
Yeah. And it's also like the. Who is we? I don't think it's going to get to the, the. I don't think this is the part where he says about Israel. What did he say about Israel?
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David Lee Corbo
Go ahead, go ahead.
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Top Lobster
No, go ahead, go ahead.
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David Lee Corbo
I was saying, I think from the clip that I saw, and I saw that clip too, I thought was interesting. I thought it was, it was contentious. But the, it was. He says, in Sunday school, I learned that your support, you are to support Israel. And Tucker says, well, does that mean that we're what we know what is Israel? Are we, are we to just, does that mean the modern state of Israel and that sort of thing? So, and then he says, and then Tucker asked him, okay, well, where does the Bible say that? And, and he said, well, you know, I don't know off the top of my head. And, you know, and then Tucker said, well, it's in Genesis, but does that apply to the modern state of Israel?
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, it feels like to me that we're, this is something that we've been kind of tracking for a while. We bring it up on a lot of shows pretty often, but this idea that we are moving towards this prophetic, you know, world turning on Israel. And, and I think, like, even though Ted Cruz is incorrect in that instance, and that Tucker issue is a pretty valid question about what are we talking about the state, the government of Israel? It, it all adds to this. If you're kind of a low information person and you're just getting this, you should be fed up with the Jews message that's really prevalent right now. And it's, it's, it's really gripping the culture in a huge way. This is just another one of those straws that's aiming to break the camel's back. You know, this moment right here where you might come away from this instead of being like, you know, this conversation that we're having, which is blessing Israel, saying that ideally, what you should hope for the people of Israel is that they come to the conclusion that Jesus Christ is the Messiah. That's the ultimate goal. Right? But instead, if you stop short of that, it's just another thing that makes you incredibly fed up with Israel, their representation in our government, you know, the Jews and their representation in our institutions. And I feel like this is all just pointing in that direction. I mean, maybe it's just because I'm too close to it, but that's like, good.
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David Lee Corbo
So let me, let me bring us up because this is some something because when I did my original video on this, someone did call me on to be really direct and precise about does this Abrahamic promise, the blessings and cursings, to what degree does it apply to us today? And did it end dispensationally when the time of the patriarchs ended? And it's actually, that's, that's not an invalid point because we talked before. I don't like using the term dispensations because it gets people all weird religiously. But there are different eras of time where God dealt with the world differently. You know, Adam and Eve, tree of knowledge of good and evil. We don't, we don't deal with that today. That, that we don't have access to that. You know, Babel was a different time. The. We are, we are under law anymore as far as, you know, being close to God, we're not under the law. So, so God does not hold me accountable to, you know, not eat shellfish and pork, thank God, because I just had some pork belly the other day. So does that mean that. And so another era was a time of the patriarchs. And in the time of the patriarchs, God dealt with the world through the descendants of Abraham and blessings and cursings were there and you. And it could be argued that that period of time was fulfilled with, with the, with their time in Egypt. Because originally, if you recall the story, we'll get into it, you know, way down the line in my Genesis series, the Jacob who was renamed Israel, his son Joseph became the prime minister of Egypt because he had a prophetic vision from God. Well, actually he interpreted a, a dream of Pharaoh. God gave the interpretation that there would be a, A, a time of abundance in a time of famine. And so Joseph said, you know, during the time of abundance, store up all your grain. And, and, and then there will be the seven years of famine. And because of that, because Egypt did that, they were able to get through this worldwide famine and they became really wealthy. And Joseph became the prime minister. He brought his people, his brothers, and you know, the other tribes down to Egypt. And the pharaoh dealt with him really well. He put them up in the best land in right on the Nile. And because of that, Egypt prospered. So God spoke well of them and good things happened to them. But then a pharaoh came along later who did not acknowledge what Joseph did, and he enslaved the Israelites. And we have the whole Exodus thing where obviously there were curses happening. So you could say, you could argue denotatively that that whole era was fulfilled, that Egypt, he said, I'll bless those nations who bless you. Egypt blessed Israel. Egypt prospered. They became the dom. This is when Egypt became the dominant world empire. And then they treated them poorly and they lost it. And that was the, that was basically the beginning of the end of the Egyptian empire. And the next world empire was the Assyrians. So that goes back to what you.
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Ed Mabry
Were saying the other day about like justice and kind of like zeroing things out, you know, the, the playing field kind of, you know, making you back. Go back to zero effectively.
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David Lee Corbo
Right, exactly. That's exactly what happened. And, but then the next era was the era of the law. So the question is, does the era of then, of course, after the era of the law, the era of the church, which we're in now, which we're not obeying the law. So since we're not obeying the law, which was the previous era, are we also required to do the blessings and cursings? Now? I'm not saying that it's irrelevant. I'm saying I think it's a question to ask.
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Ed Mabry
Well, but generally speaking, we're called to pray for people, right? And we're called to spread the gospel. So, you know, kind of leads in the same place in, in the book.
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Top Lobster
Of Psalms where, where it says. And it's quoted again in the New Testament too. But the stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone. What does that mean?
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David Lee Corbo
Because, oh, that's Jesus. Jesus was the, the builders were considered Israelites because Paul says this all throughout the New Testament. And I'm going to get to this in a second because I don't want people to think that I'm. That Israel's like completely out of the picture. But Paul says that salvation was for the Jew first, not because God didn't like Gentiles, but because he was fulfilling the prophecy. God promised that through the ethnic Jewish people, ethnic Israelites, the Messiah would come. And he did. Jesus was physically in his physical body. He was a descendant of, of Judah, of the, of the, of the royal tribe. So that's. So yeah. So the Gospel was preached first to the Jewish people. It wasn't. It was for the first 10 years. It wasn't until Acts chapter 10, where God basically said, okay, it's time to preach to the Gentiles that Peter started doing that. And of course Apostle Paul became the apostles to the Gentile. So, so when, so when you. The. The. The verse you just quoted that the. The builders rejected the cornerstone. They rejected Jesus. Jesus was the fulfillment of the law. He was the whole reason for the law. So the cornerstone is actually we look at cornerstone in our buildings where. Like the, you know, on the bottom of the building in the corner where you start building. No, it was actually in, in that vernacular it meant the top of the pyramid. It was a capstone. That's interesting because the capstone of the pyramid was usually gold. Go ahead.
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Ed Mabry
That's actually how it exists within Freemasonry as well. So it's the. The top of the archway is. Is. Is where the cornerstone lies. And interestingly enough, it, it has this correlation to Cancer, the Tropic of Cancer. That is where the. The light of God comes through. And apparently we, we all. That's. They have this idea, it's like we all enter through that. That the Tropic of Cancer, we enter through the cornerstone. And it's also in My Son is. Is playing Kingdom Hearts the other day and, and at one point you're on this mission and you're looking for the Cornerstone of Light, interestingly enough. So it's. Yeah, it's. It's riddled with. Seems to be hugely important in, in all things. But it's interesting that you know that Jesus is the cornerstone and then.
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David Lee Corbo
Right. So the cornerstone is the very top of the pyramid or any kind of. I mean, obviously the, the occult have, have. Have, you know, corrupted it. But if you look at the Washington Monument, which is an obelisk which has a pyramid at the top. Original thing, it was like. Was it silver or something or gold or something like that?
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Ed Mabry
I know that there's this whole theory about the, the tips of pyramids. You know, that cornerstone, I guess if that's what we're calling it is is the. Was made of. Or gold plated, covered in gold. Something that needed.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, exactly. So Jesus was the pinnacle. He was the cornerstone. He was a top of of it and they rejected him. And he.
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Ed Mabry
I might be actually using the wrong terminology here. Shout out to the doctor who says the keystone. I believe it is the keystone, but in, in. In Kingdom Hearts are calling it the Cornerstone of Light. But yeah, the Keystone, I think is also the, the phrase that I'm looking for. So by mistake, right?
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, so, so going back to the verse that top quoted that, you know, the stone that the builders rejected, Jesus in his first advent became the cornerstone, who in the second advent, of course he's going to come back and he's going to have his millennial reign and then his everlasting kingdom. So he is the, he is, he's the ultimate king. So that's what, what that meant. Okay, I want to talk about the, the two. Go ahead.
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Top Lobster
No, no, go ahead. I, I just thought it was, I thought that, that scripture was, I know it was about Jesus. I just wasn't sure if that's about like, is that like a replacement that they're talking about? Like, yeah, I thought that like being gift gifted to the Gentiles, is that then is that blessing passed on or is that blessing still kept for the Jews? Like, you know what I mean? This, this prophecy, like when you look.
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David Lee Corbo
At Ephesians and Galatians, especially Galatians, it talks about how the Gentile church was grafted in to Israel. And if you, if, if any of you guys have done any type of, of botany, working with plants or anything like that, you know, you can take a, a branch from another plant and, and you know, cut it and cut into the main tree or the main, the trunk or something and put that branch into it. It'll start growing. So the Gentiles are called like a wild olive plant, just, you know, out there growing wild that was grafted into the cultivated olive tree, which was Israel. So that's not a replacement, it's an addition. So let's talk about those two extremes. Let's talk about replacement theology versus Christian Zionism. Because anytime you have extremes, you're going to have flaws on both. And there are, both are flawed. So replacement theology in a nutshell is the idea that when the Jewish leadership rejected Jesus and sent him to the Romans to be crucified, that God rejected them. And he says, you're no, you're no longer my people. I'm done with you. And now the church replaces Israel and the church gets all the blessings of Israel. And of course there's the fringe aspect of that which even goes further, which is like the whole 10 lost tribes stuff, which I, I do, I've done videos on it. There's, there's, those tribes were never lost. They knew who they were. They, you know, when they were supposedly lost during the conquest by the Assyrians, 400 years later, they're they come back to Israel for Pentecost because Peter says he addresses the entire House of Israel, which is the, the actual name of the, of the northern tribes. The northern tribes were the House of Israel. The two southern tribes were the house of Judah. Peter blatantly says I'm speaking to the House of Israel. They knew who they were. That's a whole other thing. Like they dispersed. Then they wandered their way into Europe where they magically transformed from Middle Eastern Hebrews into blonde hair, blue eyed Caucasians because you know, genetics works that way. And then they became, then they became Protestants that came over to America. So America is a new Israel and Americans are, well, I'm sorry, white Americans are the new Jews, which, okay, that's as silly as it sounds. But, but, but actual replacement theology is more mainstream. And again that's the idea that God is no longer dealing with the Jews at all, that they're, they've been put away, that God's just separated, separated from them. They are basically meaningless as a nation, as an ethnicity. God's done with them. And this was actually started because I had some, when I, when I did my video, when I talked about this, I had someone to come in my comments and say, well you know, that's not really true. You're misrepresenting it. You know, no one really believes that actually they do that start. That did not start recently because the person told me that the idea of replacement theology was started by the Zionists in order to, you know, as a kind of a stalking horse or a straw man argument. No, it started with Augustine. Augustine, the church father in the third century. He is the one who started the idea of replacement theology because remember that for the first couple of centuries most Christians were Jewish because that's where the disciples were, Jewish, Jesus was Jewish. Yeah, Gentiles were, were, you know, were being proselytized. But for during the first century most Christians were Jews. But then by the third century it became the other way around where as the gospel was spread and there was content. There's always been contention between Jews and Gentiles for a number of reasons. And Jews have always been considered. Not always, but they've been considered sometimes not, you know, second class citizens for again a number of reasons we don't need to go into. But Augustine it turns out was, I would, I don't know what to call him. Antisemitic, I don't want to speak too ill of him. But he wasn't as he wasn't favorably disposed to the Jews. This was also the Time when we wonder why.
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Top Lobster
Sorry, I wonder why. What were they doing?
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, like I said, that's, that's a whole other show. There's a. Again, they've done, they've done some dirt. They're still doing dirt. They're. I mean, I keep finding out like the, I got hip to a lot of stuff with the Kennedy assassination that I didn't know about and I learned about that over the last few months.
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Top Lobster
But anyway, when you look at, I was looking, you look into the time of the, the Jews, the, the Pharisee in Rome and how like they had power, but they didn't. It was a political soft power that they'd use. They'd swing around a lot of influence and the people were there trying to do some stuff. But it's, it's just the same thing as today that like the people are kind of trying to live. They're seeing a bunch of laws and the people that are making these laws for them on top are influencing the actual people that, that, you know, carry out the law of the land. It's the same exact thing when that video we just watched with Ted Cruz where he's like, we. I was like, that's an interesting slip of the tongue because why don't. What do you mean by we? Like the apac that come. But it's the same, it's just the same exact thing. It's, it's frustrating. It's frustrating.
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David Lee Corbo
And as I said, God spoke ill of them. Jesus spoke. I mean, you cannot read, read the Gospel of John, chapter 8, where Jesus is just ripping the Pharisees to shreds. And these were the, the high level religiously religious leaders. And Jesus said, your traditions are making the Bible of none effect. You've made your tradition supersede the Bible. And ironically that's what goes on with Catholicism where they make their traditions supersede the Bible. Which is why I find it so ironic that the Candace Owens of the world get on their high horse and like, oh, well, you know, you, you went to Sunday school because you believe this, but. Yeah, well, you believe whatever your priest tells you. You check your brain at the door. Whenever it comes to anything to do with the Bible, you won't think you research everything else. And she's a very good researcher, but when it comes to, to theology, unless somebody with a collar or a robe says it, she won't believe it. And I'm like, that's. So why do you decide to check your brain at the door when it comes to your theology? But you Will research deeply and question everything else. Anyway, so, so back to Augustine. So because there was a lot of anti Jewish sentiment August and one of the church fathers decides he has a theology that of replacement, that the church replaced Israel. Israel does not have any place in God's prophetic plan anymore. It's all about the Church. And there's a book out called From Augustine to Auschwitz because a lot of the doctrines of, of the, of Hitler and the Nazis come from, start with, with Augustine and then it goes all the way through Martin Luther because so you can start with Augustine. Then a couple centuries later you have the beginning of the medieval church through Constantine which evolves into what we call Roman Catholicism. And they were pretty much anti Israel. They all the Crusades were about, you know, the church taking back the Holy Land, that sort of thing, you know, and, and then you get, then even with the Protestant Reformation, you have Martin Luther who was virulently anti Semitic. He had some serious, he wrote some like crazy stuff about the Jews. But again, was he. Who was he talking about? Because you have the whole Khazarian thing and that's a whole. I know we've talked about that before and that's a big deal. But so, so that whole idea of replacement theology goes back to the third century and is frankly the, the, the mainstream position of, of most of the church, not necessarily anti Israelism. But the fact that the church is prominent and Israel is not. So that is not true. God is not done with Israel. Romans chapters 9, 10 and 11. The apostle Paul hammers home the fact that God is not done with them. They are, to put it in hockey terms, they're in the penalty box. Yes, they were blinded because they rejected their Messiah. But Paul blatantly says that blindness is, is temporary until the times of the Gentiles are over. That's the time we're in now. And when that time is over, then Israel is going to become very prominent again. That's in the tribulation which is yet future. So what does that mean as far as the current nation of Israel is concerned? Well, they're still in the penalty box. If you look at Ezekiel 37, the dry bones prophecy where God tells Ezekiel, he puts, he gives him a vision of this, basically a desert filled with dried partial bones. And he says preach to these dried bones. And he preaches to them and they start to come, they start to assemble together and they get flesh on them, but they don't have a spirit. They're not alive. So he said that, that the, his nation is going to come back from all over the world, but there's not going to be a spirit in them. They're not going to be, they're not going to be believers. And then at the, then at the end when you have a, a king over them like David, that is Jesus in the, in the millennial reign, they will get the spirit back and they will believe again. So I believe this is talking about the end of that tribulation period at Armageddon when the secular Jews finally acknowledge the Messiah.
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Ed Mabry
So we're interesting because it almost feels like then preaching to them is like not, not that it's a fool's errand, but it's like it's not going to work. But it's an interesting pursuit because I just think about like messianic Jews and their whole, everything that they focus on is basically preaching that Jesus Christ was the Messiah to the Jews. So they consider themselves Jews. But you know, I was just at a, a messianic Jew wedding and as, as they're getting married, the, the pastor, I get, I guess the rabbi, right, is just talking about, you know, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit and all this other stuff. And, and I'm going, is it like what even is. You just say Jew. It just, it's just confusing. You know what I mean? Like a Messianic Jew. The word Jew there is confusing because it's not. They don't. They, they believe in Jesus Christ. And then of course it seems that they're mission driven to preach that to, you know, modern day Jews. And so. But is that a fool's errand? Because they're not going to have that sort of veil, that spirit's not going to enter them again until potentially the millennial kingdom.
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Top Lobster
It's almost unfair. And I have like more sympathy now than ever for that idea because as somebody who had something in front of him but can't see it until something seemingly random happens, it almost seems unfair. It's like, oh, that's been there the whole time and I can't see it. But if that's what's happening to these people, it's like, and it's a strong delusion for them. Like, man, that's.
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Ed Mabry
But is it unfair? Is it unjust if it's just.
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Top Lobster
But it's not, it's not just for me to hate you because you've been blinded in such a way. That's very annoying.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Top Lobster
But like that, I guess that's where I'm at. It's weird, right?
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David Lee Corbo
Well, keep in mind, that is. We're talking about a corporate blindness, and there will be a corporate acceptance. It doesn't mean the individuals, obviously. Ethnic Jewish people. Yeah. A messianic Jew is a person who considers themselves ethnically Jewish, but they believe in Jesus. Because there's two. I mean, there's being. There's following Judaism versus being ethnically Jewish. Like, I could. If I wanted to, I could start. I could. I could start following the Talmud or whatever, or. Or I could start, you know, just obeying only the Old Testament. And I would be Jewish in that sense. I mean, Sammy Davis Jr. Who's a piece of crap. Yeah. But, you know, he converted. You'd have a lot. You can convert to the religion.
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Ed Mabry
Converted to Caucasian. I didn't know he was Jewish, too.
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David Lee Corbo
And a pedophile and all sorts of other things.
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Ed Mabry
All kinds of things.
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David Lee Corbo
If you listen to the lyrics of Candyman and you can't. I can't listen to that song without cringing.
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Ed Mabry
Candyman. Who's Candyman by?
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David Lee Corbo
No, no, that was a song by Sammy Davis Jr. What?
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Ed Mabry
I'm sorry. We're talking about the baseball player. What's his name?
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Top Lobster
Sammy Sosa.
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Ed Mabry
Sammy Sosa. I'm so. I'm so ridiculous.
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Top Lobster
He's definitely white now. Yeah, he's definitely white.
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Ed Mabry
I thought.
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David Lee Corbo
Rat pack with. With What's. What's his name?
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Ed Mabry
Oh, my God. Please bring up Sammy Sosa top. Because he's white now. I was like.
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David Lee Corbo
He did a bunch of conversations, you guys. So I remember when Sammy Davis Jr. Was actually a thing.
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Ed Mabry
Oh, that's so funny. Sammy Davis Jr. Sounds like a baseball player.
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Top Lobster
I don't know what happened. He's a. He's really Home run king. Sammy Davis Jr. Very different guy. Very small, weaselly black dude. Good singer. Not home run hitter at all, I don't think. Probably.
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David Lee Corbo
I'm pretty sure he can. He can hit the ball past the second base. Oh, my God.
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Ed Mabry
That's. Yeah, yeah, I know who you're talking about now. Very.
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David Lee Corbo
If you ever research him. Sammy Davis Jr. That dude is a piece of work. And he had. He had a song in the 70s called the Candyman and there's pedophilia. Anyway, no. Yeah. So that's a whole.
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Ed Mabry
Sorry. Shout out to Sammy Sosa.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. I think he's still Catholic, so even though he's turning white, I think he's Jewish.
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Ed Mabry
Like, unbelievable.
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Top Lobster
Okay, he's on time. What we're saying is he's on time.
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Ed Mabry
He makes it everywhere on time now.
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David Lee Corbo
So my point is that Messianic Jews are people who are ethnically or culturally Jewish, but also who but believe in Jesus. So you, so obviously you can be individually saved as a Jewish person. But I mean corporately, right now, if you are a Jew religiously, then you don't believe that Jesus is your Messiah. You're still waiting for the Messiah. So what? He, so he, Paul says that all of Israel will be saved at the end. So that means that the people who are holding out, who are still blinded and that blindness, by the way, is the reason it's just top. Is because they refuse. It's like with Pharaoh's hardened heart, Pharaoh hardened his own heart. And God says, okay, well that's just because you, you're being stubborn so I can harden your heart. It's not like if you're a Jewish person, if you reject Jesus, it's not because you don't know him, you've heard about him, you could find about out about him easily. You just don't want to. So you're choosing this, you're choosing not to do. I mean, the Apostle Paul was a Pharisee, but he, but he knew in his heart that Jesus was real until he had to get knocked off his donkey. And he finally accepted it. But, you know, he was fighting against it. And I think a lot of people, my old mentor Chuck Mr. He went to Israel a lot and he would tell me about certain rabbis who admitted to him in private that, yeah, Jesus is the Messiah, but I can't do it. I can't believe in him, you know. Well, why not? Literally said that. They say, you know, I looked at the prophecy in Daniel and I did the math that, you know, the only person who could have fulfilled the, all of the prophecy prophecies of the Messiah, we hadn't been in the first century and Jesus is the only one who could fulfill it. But I just, I just can't because I, I can't be. I can't believe what the Guayim believe.
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Ed Mabry
Oh man, that's crazy. You know, I know what it, it's also significant that like, even though this is a strong delusion that's set on them and that as a, as a whole they're not going to realize this until potentially the, you know, the millennial kingdom, it's also very much a sort of a test to, to us too, right? To the goyim. Because what it does is it gives you justifiable, in your own mind, justifiable reason to resent them and to, to even hate them, right? Because it's like, look, they're not, not only are they not recognizing that Jesus is the Messiah, but look at all the things that they're doing, right? And you know, all the stuff that I've been talking about where, you know, all the, all the Jew noticing stuff. So it's like I, I found recently that, that, that's one of the most dangerous things is when you feel justified. You feel like you understand the truth and that you reside in it. And therefore, when somebody comes against you, you allow that spirit of, like, anger and resentment to come in because you feel justified in your position. So it's. As much as it is a curse on them, it's also this, like, test for us, right? It's like, are you. Do you bless them anyway, even though they piss you off endlessly? And it's like every day now, especially in 2025, we're inundated with all of their missteps. Every day they're highlighted on Twitter. Every day you get to see the way in which they egregiously trespass against you.
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Top Lobster
Well, they tell you themselves, right? Like what Ed just said, like, I can't believe in this because the Goyen believe in it. And it's like, you know what, in a sense, it might even come down to the name of this show, like this Nephilim death squad idea, where if it was in the days of Noah, the way we think and describe, then that means that the Jews were out there or the Hebrews, whatever you like to call them at the time. They're out there doing battle against literal bloodlines of the fallen angel. So if they see you as that, and they still do, this is a problem. And then that goes to the, like, what's his name? Joel? Thomas, where we're talking about the good Nephilim and things like that. David's mighty men. Yeah, yeah. Like, were there good Nephilim, the. The mighty men of David, where he has like a lion face, man of Moab fighting in his army. He's like, well, what is that? Is that a. A Nephilim that converted to the other side and can they save their souls? And there's even a Merkel hat on a guy. He's one of these, like, biblical historian, theologian types that goes through some of these old texts and there's like, correspondence between priests of different lands and they're talking about things like this. Like St. Christopher had a, you know, dog headed face. Okay, Take what, you know, think about what that, whatever you will. But there was a debate between them. Like, are these things eligible for salvation. Can they be, do they have a soul that can be saved?
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Ed Mabry
Right. And Jesus is, is there. And to redeem humanity, can these things be redeemed through Jesus? You know?
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Top Lobster
Right. That's a huge question. Especially when you got them looking at us like that. You know the other, I kind of get it, but I disagree. I don't feel like an animal at any point or a nephilim.
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David Lee Corbo
No. Well, because God never said if you weren't a descendant of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that you were less than human. That's, that's when you get, that's religious. That's when you take the word of God and you take it to an extreme in order, in order to make yourself feel more holy. Well, God, we're God's chosen people. Which means if anyone who's not God's chosen people must not be, not be human or it must be less than that. And God says, specifically, I wish I had the verse in front of me. I actually had it when I was doing my show. He's, God says, I did not pick you because you were better than anyone else. I picked you for the opposite. I said because you are the worst. You are backwards, stiff necked people. So, but God was basically saying, I picked the worst of the worst to be my people. So that people would say, well, if these folks can, if God can save them, he can save anyone. So that's, God says, blatantly, I didn't choose you because you were the best. I chose you because you were jackasses. And they were, they were constantly. And so, and that is really our Laura Loomer.
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Ed Mabry
Laura Loomer can be redeemed through Christ too. She just got a real rough face.
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David Lee Corbo
When you look at the Old Testament, all the times the Jews were screwing up and what that tells me, that gives me a really deep insight into God's mercy. Mike, you were so merciful to these people. You did so much for them. These 10 plagues, you, you brought them out of Egypt with, you know, with this mighty hand and you did supernatural stuff. You fed them in the desert, you gave them food and water, you defeated their enemies for them and they still screwed up and started worshiping other gods the first chance they got.
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Ed Mabry
That's interesting.
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David Lee Corbo
If you're merciful on them, thank God you're going to be merciful on me for my screw ups. That's what I think. That's why I think that's the reason. So, so for someone to think they're better than someone else because they're the chosen. But God says, this is why I chose you. I chose because you guys suck.
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Ed Mabry
That's so crazy. I kind of love that dude. That makes a lot of sense though. That makes sense.
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Top Lobster
The attitude of, of why, you know, the. All these. Who, who you said was the most anti Semitic. Which, which king was that?
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David Lee Corbo
No, I know I said God was the most antisemitic because he's the one. No, no, but like if you read the book of Jeremiah, for example, where he. He basically. And here it's tough because if you read it in the vernacular of the King James or in the King James derivative, it's very polite English. But what he's really saying. And I. I'll bring the verse up and I'll send it to you guys. You can send out to your listeners later. Basically, he said, he says that Israel, you're playing the harlot, which you play. You're a. He's calling Israel a bunch of. And he says you sit under the tree waiting for someone with He's. And when you read the actual language, he says you're sitting under a tree with your legs open, waiting for someone to come by. That's what God is saying to his chosen people. You're such. That you. Because prostitutes would. Would sit under a tree waiting for a guy to come by, basically saw a woman sitting on the tree looking provocative. That means she was a prostitute. You can give her some money and have sex with her. He was saying you guys are sitting under the tree with your legs wide open for anyone who comes by. That's what God said about his chosen people.
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Ed Mabry
That's crazy.
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David Lee Corbo
Why would you get on a high horse and think you're better than anyone else? When God calls you a whore who's bred eagle under a tree, giving it away to anybody who comes by.
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Ed Mabry
But that makes total sense, right? Because there's, there's real beauty in that, right? In the sense that like it's like you said, if, if my mercy extends to even these people, then look how, how forgiving I can be, you know? And it really shows you, like anybody is eligible for salvation. But also. Yeah. I mean, you're chosen because of how, how much you suck. That's wild.
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David Lee Corbo
I call you because you were the lowest of people.
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Top Lobster
I just, I just googled like when, when Israel is called a harlot and first chat GPT said let's keep it respectful. And I was like, no, no, I'm looking for scripture. And it's just giving me like four or five different instances. I'm like, well, this doesn't help. So it's not just one.
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Ed Mabry
He doesn't want you to know that.
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Top Lobster
No, I mean, it's like it's a number of times that he's called them whores in some form of.
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David Lee Corbo
Hosea. He had. He made, he didn't make. He. Well, Jose was obedient. He told Hosea to marry a prostitute in order to help Israel understand how he feels about them.
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Top Lobster
Wow.
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Ed Mabry
Damn.
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David Lee Corbo
That is literally what he does. And, and this. He, he. So Hosea marries this prostitute and as a prostitute does, she continued in her ways. And, and, and he said, he said put her away, but then come back and love her later. Because God was demonstrating his relationship with Israel through Hosea. So Jose, I think her name was Gomer, which is, you know, not a very feminine name, but Jose, Hosea married her and, and she cheated on him as. Because she was a harlot.
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Ed Mabry
Right.
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David Lee Corbo
And, but then, and, and he was upset. He was heartbroken. But God said, go back to her and love her and bring her back in and raise and you know, and raise the kids.
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Ed Mabry
Can I ask you something? So this is going to be a little bit of a deviation, but I heard Sam Hyde say something recently that I thought was, was interesting and I wondered your thoughts on it. But this idea that Abraham, you know, is, is commissioned to sacrifice his son and then God stays his hand and gives him an alternative sacrifice. And then later on when, when Jesus is sacrificed on the cross, it was God's way of showing you, like, look, I called you to do this thing and you're an obedient servant, but I stopped you because I won't ask that of you, but I will do the thing for mankind because I love, you know, I love man so much so that I'll do the thing that I stayed your hand from doing. Does that, does that track in your opinion?
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David Lee Corbo
Oh yeah, that's absolutely true. That's completely true.
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Ed Mabry
That's interesting.
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David Lee Corbo
And also it was the same mountain. The, the mountain or the hill that he was going to sacrifice Isaac on was. This was right outside of Jerusalem. It was Golgotha. Wow. Jesus was sacrificed on the same mountain where he asked Abraham to sacrifice Isaac. And by the way, just to, to put a capstone on that, you see later in the book of Hebrews that it gives more detail about that Abraham is. Why would Abraham even agree to do that? Because Abraham by this time, he has so much faith in God and he knew that God made a promise that he would, that he would bless the world through his son, he said, well, God, if you kill him, you gotta, if I kill him, you gotta resurrect him. That was Abraham's mentality. He's like, this is on you, God. So I'll do it because I know you have to bring him back because you can't break your promise. That's why you do it.
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Ed Mabry
All of that is gangster.
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Top Lobster
That's an intense knowing of that. That's what you talk about a lot like the character of who this, who God is. And if you understand that, then you could sort of predict.
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Ed Mabry
Right?
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. So I want to touch on something you said before topic about the Nephilim. And I don't believe that they can be saved because again, Jesus did not die for them. But as far as, and I don't believe they're capable of being good because they, they, their spirit, because of the way they exist, they don't have it within them to be outside of their nature. We can choose to be good. They cannot, they don't have that free will because their, their spirit comes from the fallen angels and the fallen angels don't have that free will. That's why now of, of David, those were human beings. How do we know that? Because that term, mighty men, it, it can't, it was used or gibborim in Hebrew. It was used for the Nephilim in that context. But mighty man does not necessarily, it does not always mean Nephilim. For example, nephilim means the fallen ones. So you can also say that someone is fallen without them being a Nephilim, without them being a descendant of the fallen angels. Just saw how someone can be a mighty man without mighty man of valor, without being, you know, again, an actual Nephilim as we, as we think of them. So David's mighty men were human beings.
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Ed Mabry
Interesting.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, how about, we have to look at the context.
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Top Lobster
Here's a question. When, when you have these Nephilim, they continue to water down their bloodline, at what point do they become human? If you continue to take human wife, it's like, that's a good question.
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David Lee Corbo
That's, that's a great question. I'm not sure what the line of demarcation is, but I, I, I believe that, that there is at some point where you, where you're completely human or are you considered human in God's size? I don't know what that line is. I, I, I really don't. I'm not going to lie and pretend that I know because I'm sure there are lots of people who still have remnants of the bloodlines in them.
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Ed Mabry
We, we talk about this story, you know, and it's just a story. So it's, it's anecdotal in its nature, but it's one of these episodes that we heard on, on Tony Merkel show. This woman that was having like prolonged exposure to a Bigfoot outside of her cabin, to the extent where she, she feels as though she developed a relationship and not like the, the weird relationship that they write about in the women's novels, but like, you know, just one where she gets to know this thing to some degree. Yeah, not that, not that kind of, you know, how hard it is to tell. My wife, like, beast was weird and like gashed on, was probably pretty base. He seemed like a good guy.
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Top Lobster
We got to kill this Nephilim.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah. Bell was like, what. What are you doing, girl? So, so. But over some time, this thing allegedly, you know, take it with a grain of salt, tells her that it is what is what is known as an eliud, and that it is seeking redemption. And so that you, first, you have to buy that that's even true, and then second, you have to buy that that thing told the truth. But this idea apparently does exist in the Bible, the Eliud being like some distant offshoot of the nephilim, potentially like, you know, a watered down bloodline or something like that. And it's just interesting that she didn't, she wasn't like a, you know, into the Bible. She wasn't a Christian. This woman, she's just telling you about her weird shit. And then it wasn't until like later on that somebody was like, oh, that word Eliud, that's very fascinating. So, but the idea that it was seeking redemption is interesting as well. So I just wonder about that. Like, can it get, you know, you talk about the point of demarcation. Can a bloodline get to the point where maybe enough of its genetics are removed from the equation that it could even consider redemption in, in some way, shape or form? I don't, I don't know. But. Well, fascinating idea.
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David Lee Corbo
So I. Here, here are my thoughts. And again, I'm not being definitive here. So if you, if someone disagrees, that's perfectly fine. I'm not going to fight anyone on this. So we look at the first advent of the Nephilim during the time of Noah and, and before that, you know, you had, you know, the fallen angels coming down, having intercourse with women, producing these, these entities. They were, they were wiped out in the flood. Then of course, you have another incursion but it was. It wasn't nearly as prevalent. So while you would have had an entire population of Nephilim before the flood, afterwards, it seems to be very, very specific and very intentional. For example, Nimrod became a gibble dream. We know that is that. That, that had to do with the Nephilim because it was the same. It's only a couple of chapters later within the same context. But then. And then you have the kings of the Earth, many of them, because either being Nephilim or having those bloodlines in them, but that's all the intention. Like the pharaohs, you know, the reason they had those headdresses with the cone shape on the back is not just. Is. Is not just because, you know, it was a nice headdress. I think it's because they. They were deformed to that degree because they had some Nephilim blood in them. I think my opinion is that people who have Nephilim blood in them now, in their Earth's bloodline, those are intentional bloodlines. So I think they're going to be very few and far between people who are royals. And some of them admit this, like Queen Elizabeth before she died. She's on the record as saying that she can trace her bloodline back to the ancient kings of Sumeria. I don't doubt her. They probably were. And that's why they intermarry. They're trying to preserve the bloodline. So I think they want to keep those. That bloodline as pure as possible. So while there may be some people walking around with some remnants of it, I. I think they're very few and far between. My opinion, because I think that they are intentionally trying to preserve bloodlines. That doesn't mean there's some offshoots that don't happen. Let's say someone like. I'll give you an example. You guys know about Kathy o', Brien, who's, you know, very well known for her book Transformation of America.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
And she was, you know, part of SRA because her bloodlines they had. There were some royal bloodline in there. And so they only wanted to do these rituals with her because she probably had some of that blood in her and it made her better conduit for the demonics that they were doing. Now, I. I don't believe she's a Nephilim. I think that. And I don't know if she's a Christian or not, but I know that the guy who rescued her, there's a lot of controversy about her. My point is that I think she's human, but there was some of that bloodline in her, which is why she was, why she and other unfortunate victims of this are targeted because they have that bloodline in them. So there's, so she probably has some spiritual things that resonate with her. Like this lady with the Bigfoot, she may have some of that in her bloodline. But I think that there, I, I think that it, as it comes more diluted, I think that you, you can get more to the human side. But I don't think there's a lot of folks like this. They guard their bloodlines like, you know, pretty, pretty fiercely.
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Ed Mabry
I would imagine that's the case. Yeah, they're not trying to, to publicize that. But I, but I do think that there's probably some room for like a kid that's born that way. And then, you know, how often do children rebel against their parents? Some, some kid that ends up being like, yeah, this is not for me. Because that's always the gamble. Right. And the gamble for them, you'd imagine is like they go through all these lengths to try to preserve that bloodline and then it just takes one rebellious child to go. I hate the way my family drinks babies and you know, and then deviates from that probably forever and then goes off in spills and beans. But yeah, I would say for the most part you're, you're correct. They're, they're obviously, they're hiding that to the best of their abilities.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Okay. I want to talk about Christian Zionism because I already like got into the replacement theology, so I don't want to be one sided. So Christian Zionism is, takes the exact opposite point of view. Instead of saying that Israel is irrelevant, God's done with them. And by the way, let me wrap up the replacement theologies with this. Is that replacement theology again? It started with Augustine, but it was embraced passionately by the medieval church, by the Catholic Church because, I mean, it worked in their favor because they could say, well, you know, Jews are, we are the, we are the new church. We are the only ones that have God's favor. All the promises are, are given to this church, the Catholic Church now. And what's very interesting is replacement theologists, they love to embrace the blessings. In Deuteronomy, chapter 28, first 15 verses are, God says, you'll be blessed coming in and going out. You'll be blessed in the field. You'll be blessed here, there and everywhere in your prosperity and all this kind of stuff. That's one third of Genesis. Excuse me. Of, of Deuteronomy 28. The other two thirds are curses based on disobedience. None of the replacement theologists ever want to talk about those curses because they're conditional. The blessings God gave to Israel were conditional on them being obedient. If they're disobedient, there were curses. So I wouldn't really want to be that because I, you know, I'm not always obedient. I don't want to be cursed when I'm being disobedient. But they only want the blessings of the Israel, of the Israelites, not the curses, I always find.
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Ed Mabry
But they don't get the blessings if they're disobedient, Correct?
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David Lee Corbo
Right. They don't, yeah. If they're disobedient, they don't get the blessings. That's why they were kicked out of the land. That's why they were taken captive by the Assyrians and the Babylonians.
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Ed Mabry
So when they were things basically to, to, to multiply and be fruitful and, and, you know, gain access to this land, et cetera, et cetera.
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David Lee Corbo
And they achieve that under Solomon because remember Solomon, he, he, on the back end of his life, he completely fell away. But at first he was a great king. And during his, during the first half of his reign, Israel, that nation was the richest nation in the world. I mean, Solomon's salary was 666 talents of gold. That's about £70,000 of gold.
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Top Lobster
It was the golden age.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Literally, Israel was considered the great nation. People would come from all over the earth because they were so amazed. So, so for a brief period of time, they were fulfilling the prophets, the, the, the, their ambassadorship that God gave them. But then, you know, Solomon started marrying all these other wives and they turned his heart away from God. My point is that because they were doing well, because they did well and they were obedient. God blessed them tremendously, but they quickly fell apart and, you know, that's how it went. So, so my point is. So in, in the reason why I brought the whole Catholic part up is because again, a lot of people who are in this hyper Catholic bent are also very anti Israel and very much in the replacement theology aspect of it because they say that Israel's a completely irrelevant and all these blessings there are on the church. And Candace Owens herself said that. He said, yeah, you know, we've, we've. She said it briefly, but it, it perked up me up when I heard. I'm like, wait a minute. She said, yeah, well, we've replaced Israel in God's eyes, like, okay, well you're listening to your priest, good for you. But again, Romans chapter 19 in 11 debunked that the blindness is in part until the times of the Gentiles are done. And then God will go with Israel because God can't break his promises. God made it a unbreakable promise to Abraham that, that his, that these will be his people and that and through these people he will bring in the kingdom. God can't break that promise, which means that he has to bring in the kingdom through the Jewish people, which means they have to be converted. And that's one of the points of the tribulation, is to make things so bad on them, to afflict them so badly that they finally said, okay, ah, we get it.
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Ed Mabry
God, can you stop the same thing that happened to Pharaoh, but he didn't, you know, and then he ends up getting and drown. But that's really fascinating because the last time we, or one of the last times we talked, you're like, who, who wants to be the Israeli? Who wants to be the Jews? Who wants to be the chosen people? You know, because you already have through the new covenant, belief in Jesus Christ gets you grafted onto the tree, right? So that's a, such a sweeter deal than being.
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David Lee Corbo
The promises to the church are way better than the promises to Israel because they aren't based on our obedience or based on us really accepting Jesus. And you know, you can be Jesus's bride, you could be his buddy who has more access.
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Ed Mabry
Right, right, right, right.
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David Lee Corbo
Very difficult. The other way around, why were all the, why, why the disciples and, and the first 10 years of Christianity, why did, why were they, why all the Jewish people saying, yes, we want to be Christians? Because they knew that the promises to the church are vastly superior than the promises to, to physical Israel.
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Ed Mabry
That, by the way, those blessings and curses, you know, I understand how they work on like a nation level, but is there any explanation of how they work on like an individual level? So I always go back to this like, idea of the Messianic Jews because I'm learning quite a bit about them recently. And I wonder, you know, those individuals who keep God's covenant, who, who, who believe in Jesus Christ is, is the way. How do the blessings and curses that apply to Israel apply to them on an individual?
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Top Lobster
Are they still part of Israel, is what you're asking?
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David Lee Corbo
No, because. And here's the other thing that the replacement theologists never talk about is that that was part of the, the obedience was obedience to the law. I didn't just mean being obedient by being nice. No. Those promises in Deuteronomy were based on them obeying the law. So that's how you got the blessings. And we are no longer under the law. We were in a different era. Ah, so. So it doesn't apply to. Even if. Even if the church wanted it to apply to them. That would mean. In order to get these blessings, you'd have to. You obey the law. All the. The feasts and the. And the sacrifices and, you know, bathing in a river when you have leprosy and your wife being ceremonially unclean when she's on her cycle, though those are all parts of the law. If you don't obey them, then, well, there you go.
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Ed Mabry
So they're just.
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Top Lobster
You shouldn't be. Like, naming yourself a Messianic Jew is just kind of stupid. You'd want to be more, like, associated with the body of Christ rather than Christian.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, I mean, honestly, like I said, I was at a wedding recently, and they're like, you know, in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, I'm. Yeah. Huh. What? Like, what? I don't understand what the.
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Top Lobster
They wear a small hat, though, right?
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Ed Mabry
That's what I saw. No small hats.
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Top Lobster
So what is the. What's the deal?
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Ed Mabry
I don't know. I'm not saying there isn't small hats. You know, what's the deal with Messianic Jews? No, I mean, I did. I've seen, you know, my uncle wears a little hat sometimes, and he. And. But I. But there was no little hats at this event. So very confusing.
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Top Lobster
Completely derail. Well, let's talk about this real quick.
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David Lee Corbo
Go ahead.
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Top Lobster
Complete derailment. What's up with circumcision? And why.
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Ed Mabry
Why is there. Why does. Yeah. Why does David get a briefcase full of penis tips? This is a lot of. A lot of them. It's like hundreds of them or thousands of them.
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David Lee Corbo
Right?
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Ed Mabry
What's the deal with that?
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Top Lobster
I witnessed that because. All right, so one of our new friends. Our new friends, Andrew Meyer, devout Jew, big Jew, somebody I've had words with, made fun of. I think I. Whatever. We had him on the show. I really like this guy. He's. He's hilarious. He's knowledgeable. He doesn't believe what I believe.
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Ed Mabry
It's a little squirmy, too. Like, you try to grab him and.
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Top Lobster
He'S a little Jewy things. It's fine.
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Ed Mabry
It's through your fingers.
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Top Lobster
You're like, we love the Jews. We love the Jews. They're Jewy, though. But he. So he had an argument online with somebody else, and they're talking about circumcision. I'm just looking. And the reason I got, I got brought up in is because I had clowned him one time about the metzizah.
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Ed Mabry
However you say, the oil, the biting.
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Top Lobster
Of the biting and the sucking. And, and his, his response to me was not adequate, Andrew. He said, it's like sucking the venom out of a snake bite. Then he told me to grow up. And I was like, that's. No, but come on, you gotta come.
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Ed Mabry
Down because that sounds like comedy. That sounds like. That sounds like a funny thing to say.
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Top Lobster
Maybe it is funny.
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Ed Mabry
But anyway, so now I'm sucking the venom out. Grow up.
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Top Lobster
I'm tagged in the post and, and they're going back and forth about circumcision. And then he just tells the person. He's like, you need to talk to God about it. And I said, I'm gonna talk to you about it the next time you come on. Because, number one, it's a little too late in the game for me. All right, that's. That's not going down. You're not gonna convince me. But I want to know what, why.
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David Lee Corbo
What are you doing? Let me start by saying this is not my area of expertise. You know, I mean, I'll do some research, and next time we talk, this will be our first. The first thing we talk about. My. But my rudimentary understanding is because of course, it's part of the, of the law, but it was done beforehand, but before the law, and it has to do with the two things, the two things that, that we've talked about that then. The veil and in between the spirit world and our world are. Are sex and blood.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is kind of both of.
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Top Lobster
Those, like, dirty panties, you'd say.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, maybe.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. So. So when you shed the blood, obviously there's blood there when, when you, when you, when you, when you cut the foreskin. And it's also, it's also the sexual organ. So it's, it could also. So I think just from a very high level standpoint, it's, it's making a covenant with God using the two things that thin the veil between the spiritual and the physical realm.
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Ed Mabry
Interesting.
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David Lee Corbo
So I'm a deeper dive and. Because that's a good subject because I honestly, I'm not extremely well versed on everything about it and no more at that. So I, I'll. I'll dive into it and, and next Time we talk, I'll have some more information.
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Top Lobster
Your Google search is going to be a disaster, man. I'm gonna pray for you feds. If you're listening.
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Ed Mabry
Maybe God kind of like made it that way. And then after a few like thousands of years of looking at it, he.
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Top Lobster
Was like, maybe not.
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Ed Mabry
If I could go back and change one thing.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, I wouldn't make it a turtleneck anymore.
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Top Lobster
I'd make it.
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Ed Mabry
Maybe that's that one thing. If I could just get rid of. You know what? Why don't you guys start? We'll make it like an incentive based.
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David Lee Corbo
Thing back then, not so much now, but back then was also a matter of hygiene.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, right, right, right. There's a lot of sand and grit gets in there.
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David Lee Corbo
Stuff gets in there.
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Ed Mabry
I don't know. I always just think that that was true because every once in a while somebody. I'll see somebody having a conversation, it's.
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Top Lobster
Called, they'll be like, I'm just saying they have a word for it. It's a Jewish word.
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Ed Mabry
Is it? It does sound like it's like, okay.
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David Lee Corbo
Speaking of going off the rails and people probably not going ever to faith by reason ever again after I tell you this story when I was, when I was in college, who was well known for, you know, having a pretty substantial endowment.
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Ed Mabry
Nice crushing.
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David Lee Corbo
And he was not circumcised. And he once told us a story about how he, he wanted to. He wanted to see how many women he could bang in one day.
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Ed Mabry
Oh, no.
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David Lee Corbo
In order to do, in order to make that happen, he had to not bathe between sessions. And so we were like, dude, by the end of the day, what was in that?
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Ed Mabry
He's just shaking out cheese out of.
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Top Lobster
The wizard's sleeve just for Monday. Cheese?
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Ed Mabry
No.
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David Lee Corbo
Disgusting. Dude.
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Ed Mabry
You know, I, I was watching those.
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David Lee Corbo
Girls all got tested or. Yeah.
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Ed Mabry
Did something at least took a bath. Don't take a shower. That's gay. So we, I was watching a couple people argue online and they go, you know, somebody's like, that's against Christianity or like, oh, yeah, if, if, if your God's so good, why then is he. Why, why was it David that like, ended up getting a lot, a whole lot of foreskins?
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Top Lobster
Well, soul, soul. Like he was like, if, I guess if you wanted his, his daughter's hand in marriage or something like that, you.
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Ed Mabry
Got to bring a lot of foreskins.
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Top Lobster
Well, you got to kill all these people. Bring them. I think. Was it 100 and he brought him 200 or something like that.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. He was basically converting them to. Against her will.
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Ed Mabry
That's crazy. He's like, double or nothing, I'm gonna bring you. That's too easy. And I. And I look at that and I go, thank God nobody's asking me because I'm an idiot, and I don't have the answers for that. So I'm hoping. Yeah, I mean, I'm very excited. If you could do a little research on. On the old foreskin debacle. And. And the next time we go, if we can start off with that. That's very interesting.
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David Lee Corbo
I would not be consulting Google. I'll be consulting the people who I. Who I consult when I have tough questions. Yeah, we have, like, a little roundtable that we do.
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Ed Mabry
What's that?
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Top Lobster
Everybody. Everybody sits down. They all have hoods. It's candlelight. He's like, well, basically, yeah. Foreskin.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, this is the topic.
- [77:38]
Ed Mabry
Today's topic. What's going on?
- [77:40]
David Lee Corbo
We don't talk around no car. I will say foreskin. Go.
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Top Lobster
I'm so sorry for demon.
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Ed Mabry
No, no, look, Ed is here to talk to retards and.
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David Lee Corbo
And, hey, yeah, I need to know the answer to this, and that's something I don't know. I love getting questions I don't know because that gives me the opportunity to learn more. And I never thought that much about four skins, but now I'm going to.
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Top Lobster
Be thinking, I would not like. I would like to not. But I found it interesting because now that I have this newfound respect for this. This. This guy, I'm kind of just like. Well, defend it, you know?
- [78:11]
Ed Mabry
Like, what?
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Top Lobster
Why?
- [78:13]
Ed Mabry
I don't think. I think he's joking around when he says it's about sucking the venom out, and then he tells you to grow up.
- [78:18]
Top Lobster
That's funny.
- [78:18]
Ed Mabry
It is a combination of that. He's very funny.
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Top Lobster
The thing is, when you're approaching it like mad. This is why I step away from it, because I was kind of like getting a little bit mad at the argument because he's being slippery. It's hard to see the jokes. It's hard to see the funny. When you're kind of like, yeah, yeah.
- [78:32]
Ed Mabry
Hey, Top, I got some news for you, though. Abraham was 99 when he had.
- [78:35]
Top Lobster
No, not me. Not this guy.
- [78:37]
David Lee Corbo
Ed.
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Top Lobster
Depends on what Ed says.
- [78:40]
Ed Mabry
Hey, the future hangs in the balance depending on what. What you said.
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David Lee Corbo
No pressure. I gotta.
- [78:48]
Ed Mabry
Yeah.
- [78:48]
David Lee Corbo
Saving the world. No pressure.
- [78:50]
Ed Mabry
No pressure. Just a little bit of skin. No pressure.
- [78:52]
Top Lobster
Just a little bit of skin between buddies.
- [78:54]
David Lee Corbo
Hey, but listen, maybe where the whole term skin in the Game comes from. I don't know.
- [78:58]
Ed Mabry
That's just a little bit of skin in the game.
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Top Lobster
This show is horrible. Ed, Christian Zionism please.
- [79:06]
David Lee Corbo
Right?
- [79:06]
Ed Mabry
Oh yeah, that's right. That was the thing you were talking about before.
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David Lee Corbo
Zionists go to the other extreme where they believe that Israel not only is Israel important, they are the key to oh God, to Bible prophecy that they call it, you know, God's biblical time clock. And most Christian commentators who are into prophecy believe that. You know again, my old mentor Chuck Mr. Believed it. You know, you guys, Tommy Igan, just all these, you name them, they, they are believers in this because oh again, like the prophecy in, in Ezekiel 37 that, that made it seem like that would lead you to believe that Israel will be coming back in the latter days. It does. It says that, that this is a latter day prophecy. And the, the verse in Isaiah 66 that says what a nation will be born. Can a nation be born in a day? And can a woman give give birth without birth pangs? And they look at that as, as 1948 when you know, Israel literally became a nation in a day without any pain of, of conquest. I mean of course after that there have been like constant wars. And you know, there's also the parable of the fig tree where Jesus says, you know, note the, I'll tell you the parable of the fig tree. You know that when it starts putting forth its leaves and, and, and shoots and things like that, you know that the time is near even at the door. And Israel is called God's victory several times in, in the Bible. So they look at this is that there will be a latter, a latter day period where Israel the nation comes back. And I, I believe that as well because I it says that they will come back without the spirit, but they also, but they take that and then they add the Abraham verse to it and they go from blessing Israel to we have to support Israel, that we can't speak evil of Israel, that we have to help make God's prophecies come true. Which is where you get into the red heifer thing where you have the guy in Texas who again good Christian guy, but he says hey, I have these heaven apps. I have red ones. I'm going to send them over here so that, send them over there so they can use them to anoint this new temple that he believes is going to be built. And I believe it too.
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Ed Mabry
Here's the thing interesting about that real quick. I just want to say like could it be one of these things where they they have this red heifer prophecy and it's like, yeah, the red heifer prophecy is what's going to basically move things along once we get these.
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David Lee Corbo
Or.
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Ed Mabry
Or is it another thing where like God's like, yeah, so there is going to be a time where things are going to get moved along in. You know, incidentally, they just so happen to collect a bunch of red cows at this time. Not it's going to happen at the same time. Not. I'm not moving because of the cows. It just so happens that they're going to gather a bunch of cows and they're going to do this thing.
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David Lee Corbo
Right. I mean, it's not a, it's not a prophecy about red heifers. It's just that in the Old Testament, in order to cleanse a new temple, you have to have the ashes of a red heifer, which are. And it has to be, you know, can't have. It has to be a certain age. It can't have any like, like non red hairs on it, which is difficult to do.
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Ed Mabry
Right.
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David Lee Corbo
So I mean, it's also very difficult.
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Top Lobster
We're gonna do research.
- [82:09]
David Lee Corbo
Z mans are female, so. Oh, heifers are female. There you go.
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Ed Mabry
Hey, quick answers that time. That's pretty good.
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David Lee Corbo
See, I can go with some quick answers occasionally.
- [82:19]
Ed Mabry
You don't have to wait till next time for that one.
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Top Lobster
I think, like, another question I have about the heifers, but, like, who knows? Is like, could you get them and then get the ashes and then just hold them for a while? Like. But that's also why not. Yeah, this is like Jewish stuff too. Like, they have their rules about who knows. They're like, crazy. Like, well, you could hold it for a fortnight, but it's got to be in, you know, spots maybe.
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Ed Mabry
I don't know.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah, I believe I have no evidence of this. I think they already sacrificed them. I think they have. I think, like you said, I think they have the ashes on standby. But the reason that they're doing this is because they know that the Antichrist has to desecrate a temple, which means the temple has to be there, there. However, this temple is not from God. This is not. There's only. There's only one temple that's come. That's that God commissions next, and that will be the millennial temple. This, the, the next temple that's built is going to be. Is not going to be from God, because I get questions about that too. Well, the Bible doesn't say it's going to be three temples no, you're right, it doesn't. It only says that, that there's going to be the two. The original symbol that Solomon built and the millennial temple. This next temple is going to be built, but it's not going to be commissioned by God. God doesn't recognize it. And you could also make that argument for the current nation. Here's where I start to get into trouble with some people when I said that if you. Yes, the physical land, this is a nation that is called Israel, that is in a portion of that land that got allotted. But if you look at how this nation came into being, there was some shady stuff going on. I mean, some seriously shady stuff going on with the Rothschilds, with the Balfour Declaration. There was some, you could argue that. I'm not going to say that it was from Satan. I'm not saying that at all. But what I'm saying is that keep in mind that God is not the only one who covets that real estate. So do the bad guys, right? Why do they covet it? Because that is the land where the mountain of God is Golgotha, the mountain where, where Jesus was crucified or the hill, rather, where Jesus was crucified. The hill where Abraham was told to sacrifice Isaac. That is Mount Moriah. Because Abraham himself says if the mountain of the Lord it be seen where he was going to sacrifice Abraham was called the mount of the Lord. It is. So there's. There's a battle for valuable real estate. And Satan and the fallen angels, they want it badly as well. So they can. So it does. It would not surprise me if they were engineering this to happen. Now granted, I think that it's that God prophesied it, but I think God may have prophesied it because he know, hey, Satan, the bad guys, they're going to want this land. They're going to do everything they can and eventually I'm going to allow this to happen happen. I'm going to allow them to have this land to. For my purposes. And then they're going to desecrate it. And then I will bring my Messiah. Jesus will come back and he'll wipe them all out and then he'll set up the true land and, and then that's when I will fulfill my promise of the kingdom that I promised to, to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
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Top Lobster
So this is, that's part of what helped me break this sort of spell where people, you know, I think they have. I like we had Jake Shields at Bohemian Grove and I think that he plays a role in Calling this out like, because it needs to be seen, it might go a little too far and people get a little confused by it. But when people are saying they're like, oh, there's nothing special about this, these people, they're this, they're that, I'm kind of like, I don't agree. Andrew Meyer came on and he said when you go to like the wall over there, you go to Jerusalem. He's like that. You can feel it. There's something there. And, and you know, maybe you could write it off as like, well, you're, you're a religious Jew. So of course you're going to feel certain ways like, you know, because you're in this place where you think. But then when you add up that, hey, you know, Jesus was killed here, there's a lot of things that happened here. Something like transmuted this ground. It probably is special. I still don't want to send my kids to die for it right now.
- [85:59]
David Lee Corbo
Right.
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Top Lobster
Or period. But like something about it.
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David Lee Corbo
There is something about that land. And I'll say this, I know you have to wrap things up. If you, if you read the Pseudepigraphal Book of Enoch, where that's. Which is the only place you can find out what demons are, you will find out that demons were congregated in a play in Galilee. There was something about that area and that's where Jesus did most of the fist casting out of demons in that area. And that didn't go away. There's still, there's a lot of UFO activity that happened in that area in the area we call that was called Galilee. So there is some spiritual stuff. So that physical land is a character in the, in the story of the Bible. So that land is, is, is sacred.
- [86:39]
Ed Mabry
And you know where the, the veil is the thinnest.
- [86:42]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
- [86:43]
Ed Mabry
If there was ever a place on earth where you could say the veil is likely the thinnest here, like, that would be it.
- [86:47]
David Lee Corbo
You have two mountains within 500 miles of each other. Mount Bashan, Mount Hermon and the Mountain of God. They're both within that same little geographic footprint. That area about the size of New Jersey.
- [86:57]
Ed Mabry
That's wild, right?
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David Lee Corbo
So just so just to wrap everything up, both extremes are incorrect. The church did not replace Israel. Now God is dealing with the world through the church. Now he is not dealing with the world through Israel. Currently he's dealing with the world through the church. He did deal with them through Israel. But Israel is going to come back into play after the church age is done on the Other hand, the Christian Zionists are incorrect in that it is not wrong to speak ill of anyone who does anything wrong because God did it to Israel constantly. So if God did it, then. And it's okay to say, hey, I don't like what's going on in Gaza and whatever, or I don't like the fact that, you know, Israel has like the biggest gay pride parades in the world. Whatever you want to say, you can, you can criticize the government.
- [87:43]
Ed Mabry
Well, isn't it like. It's like one thing to say. These guys are morons. I really hope they figure it out. I really hope they come to Christ.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
You know, it's funny, I was thinking about, and this might be kind of retarded, but I was thinking about the idea of states like, you know, the state of Israel, the state of, of Florida, the state of New York, whatever it is, and how they're represented on a flag, on the American flag, specifically, they're represented as stars. And then you think of the stars and what are those? And when, you know, when the judgment happens, those stars will fall from the sky. I was like, does the state, in a way, that word, that idea, represent. It does.
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Ed Mabry
Right?
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Top Lobster
Because you have a king, and above the king is a locality or an entity that is there to govern it. It in a way. So there's like. I was trying to think about that sort of connection and what the state.
- [88:31]
David Lee Corbo
Actually is, what I'm dealing is called a state.
- [88:38]
Top Lobster
Say. Say that again, Ed.
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David Lee Corbo
What other nation is referred to as a state? I hear a state of Israel. I'm asking genuinely because I, I just, it just occurred to me that it was interesting because I heard Sam Tripoli say on the show that he considers Israel the 51st state because says, you know, of all the. Oh, yeah, he was half joking. But that's interesting because why do you. Why is Israel called a state?
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, like the, the state of Ethiopia.
- [89:04]
Top Lobster
State of Canada. No, it's not.
- [89:06]
Ed Mabry
Right, right. Yeah.
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Top Lobster
And even in the African continent, that would make more sense to call those states. But you wouldn't call Kenya a state, would you? It's its own country.
- [89:16]
Ed Mabry
State of Kenya. It's a country. You would literally list it. Like if you were naming countries.
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David Lee Corbo
Weird.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah, Think about.
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David Lee Corbo
That's a genuine question. When you mentioned. I'm like, wait a minute. It is called the state of Israel, but why is it called.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, that's almost like a psychological trick. If you are somebody who. With a proclivity to support the government of Israel, then you might be a little bit More inclined to do that if you associate Israel with the word state. Because the only other thing you associate with the word state is, you know, the United States of America.
- [89:52]
David Lee Corbo
And they say Palestinian state, which I mean doesn't exist per se, but they always say a two state solution. I just find that interesting.
- [90:00]
Ed Mabry
That is interesting.
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Top Lobster
It is weird. I need to think about that more and look into that. But if it could just be another admission of.
- [90:06]
Ed Mabry
Right.
- [90:06]
Top Lobster
What this is, you know.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. So I'll wrap it up with this. As far as what, what I believe a Christian stance should be towards Israel is that Israel, that's God's business as a Christian. You should do what, what the Bible commissions Christians to do to go in all the world, make disciples of all people, teach, you know, preach the gospel, teach them, learn the Bible, do that sort of thing. God will handle Israel because once the church age is over, then we're actually going to go back to the law. That's how you're going to get saved once. Once the Rapture happens. How many, how do you get saved without the Holy Spirit indwelling you? Well, you're gonna have to get saved the same because you'll be back under the law. God will be dealing with the world through Israel again. So that's something to keep in mind if you are. I know because how Raven, you had your dream that you might be going through the tribulation.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah. You know what's weird is how many people have reached out since then and said the same thing. Yeah. It was like they also have the same sentiment, like, oh, I've never told anybody this, this. And this is the first time I'm hearing anybody else express it. Like that's strange. I don't know what to do with that information, but it is weird.
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David Lee Corbo
So I'll say the church let God handle Israel is my bottom line to it. It's not our business to. God doesn't need our help to make prophecies come true.
- [91:20]
Ed Mabry
Right.
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David Lee Corbo
He doesn't need us to, to give. If you want to give money to them, give money to him. But it's not mandated. You're not disobeying God if you are ambivalent about what's going on there or if you don't like some of the things that, that the government is doing.
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Ed Mabry
God also doesn't call. Yeah, it doesn't call you to damn them either.
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David Lee Corbo
Nope. Neither.
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Top Lobster
But you could ask them to stop poisoning.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, you can, you can say, hey, you guys are doing bad things. Can you stop doing that?
- [91:44]
Ed Mabry
Don't Pour poison in that. Well.
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David Lee Corbo
Right, exactly. But Israel is. Israel is God's responsibility, not ours. We live in. We're in the church age. We should be doing what the church is supposed to be doing.
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Ed Mabry
That's it. Yeah, yeah, that's. It's interesting. A lot of people are sort of finding themselves in alignment with Christians who don't quite seem to understand. And I'm not saying that I understand either, but there are Christians who don't understand who are, I guess, cursing Israel and. And then there are people who are not Christian who are in alignment with them. And that should cause you pause. You should look to your left and look to your right and go, wait, why am I saying the same thing that people that aren't even Christians are saying right now?
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David Lee Corbo
Now?
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Top Lobster
And I get it. Don't you get it? Like you.
- [92:29]
Ed Mabry
Oh, I get it.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
I see both sides. I see that. Why people are so vehemently anti Semitic. Anti Semitic. And I also see why people are confused by this prophecy and the, The Schofield Bible.
- [92:42]
David Lee Corbo
Oh, yeah, we even get into that. Maybe we talk about that the next time we have to wrap up. We can talk a little about.
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Ed Mabry
Well, don't forget you. We've got to leave room for foreskin boy.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. And for, of course, Skullfield Schofield and Foreskin. It'll be the next.
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Ed Mabry
That is. Hey, people are excited. I'm excited to talk. Scofield and Foreskin. Probably some tremendous overlap there.
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David Lee Corbo
And I'll say this, my biggest confusion that, that I have not come down on one way or the other is again, who are the Jews?
- [93:08]
Ed Mabry
Who are the Jew. Yeah, yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
I mean, seriously. I mean, yeah. The Khazarian stuff that I've studied and it's, it's. I've heard arguments, both sides, very good arguments on both. Are the people who are currently occupying that land, are they the physical. Are they Semitic? Are they the physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, or are they east from Central Europe? I mean, central Eastern Europe?
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Top Lobster
It's a good question.
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David Lee Corbo
I don't know. And if they're. If they're not, then do these promises even apply? And to what degree do they apply? And will. And will. It is the blindness, the fact that, you know, we are blinded to actually who the Israelites actually are? I don't know. It's very confusing.
- [93:48]
Ed Mabry
And I pray it almost tells you who they are. It almost tells you, like. I mean, it's, It's a fascinating conversation topic and I'm all about having it.
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David Lee Corbo
It.
- [93:55]
Ed Mabry
But as far as, like, Real focus and energy. It tells you that that's not where it's supposed to be. Your. Your focus, your energy is supposed to be, you know, Jesus Christ.
- [94:04]
David Lee Corbo
And.
- [94:04]
Ed Mabry
But, you know, I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to unpack some of these ideas.
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David Lee Corbo
And maybe that's why God hasn't revealed it to me, because he's like, it's not. It's not your business. You worry about the church, I'll worry about Israel, who they are and who they aren't. You just do your thing.
- [94:18]
Ed Mabry
So, yeah, it's almost like God saying like, who. Who made the promises?
- [94:23]
David Lee Corbo
Who.
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Ed Mabry
Who issues the blessings? Who issues the curses? Where were you when those were made? And it's like, okay, yeah, I guess I wasn't around, so. All right, well, I'm looking forward to the next one. Schofield and Foreskins. That's probably. We could already title it Schofield and Foreskins One more time, Ed, before we get out of here. Where can everybody find you?
- [94:43]
David Lee Corbo
Sure. Faithbyreason.net's a legacy site also go to. Yeah, let's pull that up. So that's. That's my site where all my research is for 10 plus years. Working on 15 now. And go to my Patreon. That's where you can interact with me, where I. You can ask me questions. I will answer them. Even foreskin questions. I'll answer those as well. On this night, bonus episodes. Material drops there first. And be part of the Bible study where we go through the Bible from the supernatural point of view. All my books are there. You can get them either free or discounted based on your tier level. And yeah, I'll be more books coming out from from there.
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Ed Mabry
So, yeah, there you go, guys. Go to Faith by Reason on Patreon and ask all your bonus skin questions. That's really what it is. Just bonus skin. Just extra skin.
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Top Lobster
Exactly, guys.
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Ed Mabry
Thank you.
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David Lee Corbo
It's the appendix of the sex organ.
- [95:38]
Ed Mabry
You don't need it. You don't need it.
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Top Lobster
Thanks for coming on, man. This has gone completely sideways, guys. We'll see you later.
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David Lee Corbo
Bye. The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. You can persuade that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see, because they'll face.
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Top Lobster
And they have. Hey, guys, thanks for sticking around. This is. I'm gonna add on an older series we did with Ed. If you guys aren't familiar and you're new here. This is from the Book of Revelation series. This is episode 20. So towards the end we're discussing the Great White Throne and what that'll be like. So go ahead, listen to this. It'll be about 30 minutes. If you're interested, just type in the Book of Revelation in any podcast feeder on our page when you're highlighting our page, Nephilim Death Squad and you'll, you'll be able to find this entire work. So yeah, man, I encourage you to listen to it. And thanks for being here in the first place. Peace out.
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David Lee Corbo
Out that. You know, when I was growing up, when you went to church, you have to dress nicely. I had to dress in a suit as a kid, you know, going to church. God never said that you have to do that and be in his presence. God doesn't care what your wardrobe is. That's man made stuff. Right. And all the things we get into, you know, Catholicism is full of religion. All causes stuff like lighting candles and rubbing rosary beads and doing all these different things. That's all religion because there's nothing in the Bible about that. That's man made stuff. That's a burden that's put on you. That's what Jesus. That was Jesus's main problem with the Pharisees. He says in the Gospels, you heap up all these rules on, on top of man, making it impossible for man to ever come to God because they think they have to obey all these man made rules anyway.
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Ed Mabry
Jesus say something to the effect of like, my yoke is easy, my burden is light.
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David Lee Corbo
Exactly. Yeah.
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Ed Mabry
It shouldn't be this big impossible task to adhere to and to try to follow. How is that true if in the same breath he says that?
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David Lee Corbo
Exactly. You believe you, you're saved by believing. But then you have other religions that say, okay, you can, you can believe, but then you have to do all these different other things to be like God. No, he just said, you believe in me and my holy Spirit will begin to change you.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
So the point of all that is. And then we'll get back to revelation when, when the Nakash heard her say that you can't touch it, he said, oh, you're religious, you're in pride, you want, you're trying to be like God. Now I know how to get you. And that's what happened. So it's possible that, that Adam didn't teach her well, or maybe Adam came up with the whole don't touch it thing.
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Top Lobster
Right? I mean, that's like teaching your children, right? Like you, you're Kind of a. Oh my God. You over. Teach them to keep them away from that.
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Ed Mabry
The.
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Top Lobster
The serpent in the garden. And then you end. They end up going towards it instead.
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Ed Mabry
It's the same thing. It's like the. The pot is hot and I'm afraid of touching that and getting burned. Right? So instead of saying like, the pot is hot, I just tell him to stay out of the kitchen.
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David Lee Corbo
Kitchen.
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Ed Mabry
It's like, well, technically you could be in the kitchen. There's so much going on in the kitchen that you should have access to, but the pot is hot and I'd rather you just not be here at all. And so I'm just gonna make an executive decision.
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Top Lobster
My mom did the same thing. My kids, she. And she. I guess she did that with me to a certain level. And I had to have a talk with her. I'm like, hey, you can't lie to them. Like, I'll tell my kids straight up, even if it's like really brutal. Like the other day my son was playing with his junk and I was like, don't do that. You're gonna like, he's doing weird. You know, just a little kiss of. I was like, you're gonna hurt yourself. You can get infection, yada, yada. And he was like like, so what? And I was like, you're gonna need that. And he's like, for what? And I was like, yes. Yeah, it's like, you're gonna need it. You're gonna. You make babies with that. And he's four and he looked at me for like a good like 30 seconds. And then he's like, let's go play something. And I was like, all right. I said, whatever. I just told him here. I was like, oh my God, he's four years old. I'm telling him about like basically the birds and bees, but I can't lie to you. I'm gonna tell you the truth because in the end, like, when you do learn it, you're not gonna trust me later on, you know?
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Ed Mabry
Yeah, that's better than what I did because my son was, for some reason, he was like singing this song the other day and he's like flicking his nipples. And instead of me having anything constructive to say about it, I just go, hey, don't do that, dude. And he's like, why not? And I'm like, cuz it's weird. Don't do weird shit around me. Maybe I gotta like, clarify. He stopped. He was like, I guess it's weird that I won't do that anymore. But he had A song and everything.
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David Lee Corbo
It's like.
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Ed Mabry
Like flicking these nips. Flicking these nips. I was like, you better get the.
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David Lee Corbo
Hell out of here with that. Yeah, it's. It's. It's a lot. My. My son's gonna be hitting puberty in a couple years now, so we got. So I'm already starting to have talks with him about that kind of stuff. And.
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Ed Mabry
Oh, God, I'm not looking forward to that at all. Not. Not fun. Not fun. It is funny, by the way, the ways in which, like, we derail ed from. Well, not only derail ed, but, like, parenthood really makes you feel, like, empathize. Empathize with God. You're like, dude, I. I get it. I understand it.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Ed Mabry
These kids are. Raven's kid is totally his kid.
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Top Lobster
It is. If you ever met him. It's incredible.
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Ed Mabry
Oh, yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
Oh, yeah.
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Ed Mabry
All right, all right. So please, let's. Let's get back on track. Where the hell did we derail you?
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, we were just about. I forgot how we got on Adam and Eve, but I think. Oh, no. You know, what I was saying is that. Yeah, you know, you have. The millennium was like all the free was like, you know, all the perfection, but with rules. And it just shows, you know, no matter what we do, we're never going to be like God. So. So the point is that God has proven his point, and now it's time to square things away because it's time to get to. It's time to get to heaven. It's time to get to. Excuse me. The new Jerusalem. But he's got to do the final judgment, so we should probably just start by reading my glasses back on the. The passage. Cool. Okay, Are we in. Let's go to chapter 20.
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Top Lobster
That's chapter one. I'm like, this isn't right. Okay, here we go.
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David Lee Corbo
All right, let's go down to verse 11. Okay, so. And I saw the great. And I saw a great white throne and him that sat on it, from whom whose face the earth and heavens fled away. And. And there was no. It was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God. And the books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the book of Life. And the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it. And death and hell were delivered up to. I'm sorry. Death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them. And they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. So this is some, this is serious stuff. So what I want to start with is by differentiating between the two different judgments that will happen once we die. There are two judgment seats. There is the judgment seat of Christ and there's a Great White Throne judgment. You want to be in the first one. You want to be at the judgment seat of Christ. You do not want to be in this Great White Throne that we see in verse 11. The reason is that the judgment seat of Christ is for those who are in Christ. And this is for the Great White Throne is for people who are not in Christ. And that term. And here's the thing, we all instinctively, no matter what your faith or religious background or even lack of religious background is, we all instinctively know that we're going to give account for ourselves. We, we just understand that it's in pop culture that we just know that you can look at any in a secular source, you die and what's going to happen, you see your life flash before your eyes and you overlook your life. We know that. It's one of the reasons that atheists are atheists, in my opinion. I think that atheists don't want to be accountable. They're rebelling against being accountable. But they instinctively know it, which is why they're always so bloody angry and why they're so hostile. It is because I get them coming into my comments. I, I know I'm gonna have a lot of them coming in with the Genesis series because I'm going to get into evolution and how stupid and impossible that ridiculous theory is. And, and even in my first episode where I just barely, I think I mentioned evolution a little bit and I had like atheists just like coming into my comments. I'm like, really? Here's my thing. Here's why I find atheists so funny. If you, if you are truly an atheist, if you truly believe that there is no God, there's no afterlife, there's no spirituality, nothing after this life, the 70, 80 years you're here on earth, oblivion. That means that the most precious commodity you have is time. Time, because you can never get it back. You can always make more money, you can always have more pleasure, blah, blah. Every second that passes is one second closer to the end. So why would you spend a single second arguing over a God you don't even think is real?
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Ed Mabry
Right?
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David Lee Corbo
Why would you come into someone's comments and because, because I don't really engage with them that much. I may give them a one liner because, you know, whatever. But don't get into arguments with like other Christians on, on, on my side. There's one, it's like one is like a thread of like 20 different comments and going back and forth like this is hours of your life.
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Ed Mabry
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
That you're never getting back because they're.
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Ed Mabry
So invested in it not being true. To go back to your earlier point.
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David Lee Corbo
It'S the equivalent to me of like, let's say that, you know, I was, I was mad at Top and you know, I'm gonna, I wanted to assault him so I would, I said, you know, Top, I'm so pissed off at you, I'm gonna throw a diamond ring and hit you in the head. Okay, well, well I've kind of hit you in the head and I'm not happy I won. No, I just lost something very precious for the small satisfaction of hitting somebody in the head. But I threw, I hit them in the head with something that's extremely precious and valuable. That's your time, atheist. What are you doing spending it arguing about something you allegedly don't even think is real? But the point is they don't want to be accountable. So what they're trying to do is they're fighting against their unconscious mind. Their unconscious brain knows your unconscious mind sees reality and it's, it unfiltered and it's saying, hey, there's no way life can come from non life. There's no way, there's no evidence for any of this stuff you believe, so why do you believe it? And, but your conscious brain can fight against it and they're, they're fight. So anyone, when you're in a fight with an atheist, you're not fighting against them, they're fighting with themselves. That's what the problem is.
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Ed Mabry
Right.
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David Lee Corbo
They're trying to beat themselves, they're trying to defeat you in an argument so they feel better about themselves. But again they're throwing, they're hitting you to have with the diamond ring.
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Ed Mabry
I used to have a buddy who I would, he was atheist and we would go back and forth and at the time I was agnostic, but I couldn't deny that there was all these elements of spirituality that were there for anybody willing to look. And so we would debate back and forth, we work together and we'd be in the back, you know, in this warehouse area for hours on end just going back and forth and everything he said was, what about this? What about this? What about this? Prove it. And everything that I was saying was like, well, here's this, here's this, here's this. But I don't know, at the end of the day, and like, my energy was so much like, well, this is an interesting conversation. I want to tell you about some interesting shit that I know about. Who knows? The mystery. The mystery of life, right?
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David Lee Corbo
And.
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Ed Mabry
And this dude who's like, you know, invested, he's constantly trying to, like, like, you know, almost play a verbal game of chess where he's cutting you off ahead of time, laying traps for you, waiting for you to walk into them, and it would just never work because I was. Dude, the debate tactics are so gay. But, you know, I do have that. I've experienced that too, where, like, they're so invested. This is a game that they're playing where they have to win. And it's like, why is it so. I think you hit the nail on the head. Why is it so important for them to win? Because it's what gives them solace. They have to believe that they're not going to have to answer for the. That they did one day.
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Top Lobster
Shout out to aware American listening from a Boom lift today. This is. I love nice people. Yeah, awesome.
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Ed Mabry
They.
- [107:40]
Top Lobster
They love tuning in. And we love, we love that you're here. So. Yeah, yeah, right.
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David Lee Corbo
But what you're. What you were saying, Raven, you're absolutely right. They are trying to. They're fighting a losing war because once. Let's say that they happen to be very, very smart. And they're arguing against a believer who's maybe not as. Doesn't have the acumen. Okay, you won the fight. Now what? Now you got to go to your next fight because you're still not happy because you weren't fighting. You're not fighting against the Christian. You're fighting against your own mind.
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Ed Mabry
Right.
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David Lee Corbo
And you're never going to be happy. So. But the point is that they know there's accountability and they're. They're fighting against the inevitable. And that's why they're so angry and miserable, because they can never, ever win that battle. So.
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Top Lobster
And this, this judgment is for them. We're also. We're talking about.
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David Lee Corbo
So let's talk about the first one, the judgment seat of Christ, which is actually that word judgment in the Greek is. The word is bima. It's the bema seat of Christ. And I like using the term bema instead, because judgment sounds like, well, okay, Jesus. Jesus is here to judge you for everything you've done as a Christian. Not in the bad sense. The, the word bema is actually. The Greeks came up with that word. It's the words they use in their Olympics. We know, you know, the Greeks invented the Olympics. So what that judgment seat, that bema seat is, is what we see after the Olympic Games, when you are given a reward, you get, you know, know, gold, silver or bronze. It's not about what you've done wrong. It's about how well did you do what you did right. So that's what the judgment seat of Christ is, the beam. The seat of Christ is reward. Now understand this. And the one thing that both judgments have in common is that there are quote, unquote, books. I mean, I think that's probably more, more, more allegorical. I don't think God has, you know, actually parchment up in heaven, but I think he's, you know, he's, he's saying this that we understand. He's. He, he's couching it in the term of books so that we understand it. What it's basically saying is that everything you're doing is recorded it from the moment you are, I'm gonna say you're born. I think the moment you understand accountability, when you know right from wrong, everything you do, both good and bad, is recorded. The difference between the two judgments is that when, if you're a Christian, when that book is opened, you have on one side everything bad you've done, on the other side, everything good you've done on, you know, for Christ. But next to everything bad you've done is crossed out and says, paid for. So you, you're not judging it because Jesus already died for it. You're just, you're evaluated on everything you did that was good or that you did in the name of Jesus. So, and that, and you're going to be rewarded based on that. So that's what it's, it's. No, it's the, the bema seat of Christ is an award ceremony. So it's going to be great. It's going to be the opposite of, of the other one.
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Ed Mabry
Can I just say how ridiculous it is, by the way, from the perspective of, of, of God, it's like, you know, you have atheists shout out, mark, thank you, brother. Yeah, and shout out, Stephen. You have atheists who are so wrapped up in, in disproving God for fear of, you know, their own accountability or having to take accountability. And it's like, imagine how strange that is from, from God's point of view. I mean, he understands us and he made us. So I suppose it's not strange, but a little insulting where it's like, hey, yeah, you did, did sin a lot. You're imperfect, you're, you're kind of a mess. But I gave you salvation through, you know, through Jesus Christ. You can find forgiveness for those things that are haunting you to the degree that you fight feverishly against anybody who espouses the name of God in front of you. You know, so it's like this thing that you're so worried about. Well, the, the, the answer for it, the solution is, is right there. It's right in front of your face. And you don't have to be burdened by this. You don't have to be so caught up in your own own self disdain. Which is more than likely the motivator, right, for that, that type of behavior. It says it's a str. We are like really weird.
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David Lee Corbo
We are.
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Ed Mabry
Human beings are weird as well.
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David Lee Corbo
Because again, the issue is if you believe that and you say, you know what, okay, I want my sins forgiven. I, I believe in Jesus. Well, the problem with that is now you've got to live like it. And that means you're going to have to not do everything you want to do because it's not because it won't be forgiven. It's because you're supposed to be getting rewards now. Your, your heart is going to be changed and we do, we still sin. Of course I've, I've sinned today, I'm going to sin tomorrow, but I'm not trying to. And I know that I'm forgiven and I'm actually making an effort to, you know, to, to be better and to do better and to do it for, for, for Jesus because of reward. If you look at a lot of the. Jesus's teachings and parables and things like that, if you really break it down, they come down to two messages, salvation and reward. Like for example, and you can tell them because the salvation parables are always binary. There's either someone does right and they come to the kingdom. If they do wrong, they go into outer darkness where there's, you know, wailing and gnashing of teeth. That's a salvation message. Then you have the reward message. And these are all because salvation is, is qualitative, either, you know, heaven or hell. The reward messages are quantitative. We talked about one last time, but you know, the he. There were three men who were given, you know, different level of meanness or talent. One was given ten One was given five ones given one. And as they were judged, one of them, God says, okay, great. You, the one who had 10, you did great. I'm putting you over 10 cities. The one who had five, he did great. I'm putting you Over 5 cities. And the one who didn't, who didn't do, did poorly. He was, he was kicked out. That's a reward judgment. So that's what Jesus was trying to teach people, salvation and reward. If you salvation is binary, either you're saved or you're not, that rewards are again are quantitative. So we're all not going to have the same reward. And I believe, and I did mention this, I did not mention this in, in the, in the millennium episode, but I think that those rewards either primarily or exclusively are going to be executed in, in the millennium because those, those rewards are about reigning over, over certain areas and people and having authority. And I don't think that when we get to the New Jerusalem, which we'll talk about a few shows from now, I don't think anyone is going to be over anyone else as far as, you know, as far as government hierarchy. I think at that point we're all going to be, I guess, quote unquote, equal. We, we'll be unique. We'll have our uniqueness that we'll live in. But it's not like I'm going to be in charge of a bunch of people in the same way as a government. So I'm. So my thought is that all these rewards are for the millennium. So you get a thousand years of, you know, if you're Christian, all the Christians, everyone's going to be resurrected and for a thousand years you're going to walk in the authority and reward, which isn't bad. Let's say you live for 80 years great. And you do good, you get a thousand years of reward and then we all go into to the New Jerusalem. That's, that's my, I could be wrong, but that is, that's my thought.
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Top Lobster
This seems like the angels jobs, although we as human beings kind of, I like to rank them as like, which I think is most important. But it doesn't seem that, that way to them. It just seems like a job. So like the angel of the Seas. Is this what you're kind of getting at, like depending on your reward is what you'll be responsible over? And then that goes to what we. It's not going to be this episode, I suppose it'll be the New Jerusalem where we're talking about like, well, what Will it look like what? Will your purpose be there?
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
What are we going to do? So it all, it all hinges on this.
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Ed Mabry
That's great too, because if you look into a lot of like Gnostic and New age beliefs, they kind of, kind of believe that you're going to return to some sort of like central consciousness and, and go back to source is. Is some of the language they like to use. And when you start getting into that, it's like there's a lot of questions. What about my loved ones? What about my sense of self and, and identity and personality? And there's a lot of things within our own culture where it talks about like ego, death. Right. If you're going to achieve this level of like ascended master yogi, you have to be this selfless kind of ethereal entity that has no personality anymore. It is now elevated to, to. And I'm like, I don't think that we are as diverse in our personality for no reason. I think God made us this way. I think it's one of the things that is so beautiful about the human species is the diversity and personality.
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David Lee Corbo
Exactly.
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Ed Mabry
And I couldn't imagine, like, I, I personally don't want some sort of future where I abstain from ever seeing my loved ones again and I go on to join some sort of conscious unit where I dissolve all of self and then can become energy. Like, duh, that sounds gay's another. Yeah, dude, it sounds like a misery. So, you know, I never understood that when it's, I just don't believe that my personality is, is indicative of like two things. It's, it's the way that God made me and then the way that this life has shaped me, you know, it's given some more definition to this thing. I was born as a certain person. Like, you know, you have like one kid and another kid, they're raised in the same household, go through the same circumstances, but dramatically different personalities. Like God formed us. That idea of like, I knew you before I formed you in your mother's womb, like, yeah, I think that is very literal. Like he knew you. You. This individual personality, I don't think that that's to be given up and then, you know, you dissolve into the ether. I don't, I don't believe that it.
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David Lee Corbo
Would make no sense. And, and what benefit would it be for, for God to say, okay, you, you have, you have these different divergent lives, billions of people, and now you're just going to be one thing that thinks exactly the same. In my, my example of this is The Trinity is not the same God. Jesus and the Holy Spirit have different personalities. We talked about this when, when we had, when we had John Linhart on. They have intangible drivers. God is exhorter, perceiver, believer. Jesus is server, server. The Holy Spirit is administrator, server. They have different jobs, different roles, different personalities.
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Ed Mabry
I, I want to address this real quick. Shout out to Xerox. I think this is. I think he's really saying something that is. Is much more important than even just a small, you know, chat contribution. Ego death doesn't shut off your ego. It disconnects you from God. And I, I kind of. That resonates with me because right now, in the psychedelic world, in the Joe Rogan verse, right, where you're telling people to do psychedelics, it's an ego killer, right? You have to destroy your ego, your sense of self, and then you gain enlightenment. I'm like, I don't. I don't think so, Doug. I think that that is. You're like, that's literally saying kill the uniqueness that God has given you, right?
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David Lee Corbo
And who does that benefit? We talked about this like several episodes ago. The purpose of government is to make us all the same so that we're easier to rule. So who is benefiting from or who wants us to. To. To give up our uniqueness and all be exactly the same?
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Ed Mabry
Oh, man. Here B. Plissken says. Yeah, sounds like encouragement to evacuate. If you are abstaining, if you're getting rid of this uniqueness that God has given you, well, then certainly you're emptying a vessel and making room for something else. It's like when you get possessed, what do they, what do these entities do? They take control over you. They push your personality down. They keep you subverted and submissive, and they start to steer. It's like, like, yeah, that probably makes it a lot easier for would be entities that seek to possess you, to. To take control of you.
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David Lee Corbo
There is nothing that the elites and the entity that the elites worship more want more than for us to all be the same. They want us all. You either Republican or Democrat, you all have to think the. Exactly the same way. I'm bringing politics into it. And you have to all believe the exact same thing because we're easier to control.
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Ed Mabry
Right? Do you want me to become the, the. The gray NPC meme? That's what you want? You want me to kill my ego and become the faceless npc?
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Top Lobster
Let me just say at some point I was like, I had something to say there. I had something to say there. And then at another point I just stopped and I'm like, I'm just listening. I'm like, I enjoy this show, but it's like a tragedy that I'm on it because now I gotta like talk.
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Ed Mabry
Sometimes you get in the groove, dude. Sometimes we touch on something that we wouldn't do.
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Top Lobster
This guy like just.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. When we get to the, when we get to the neutral, we're gonna to dive even deeper into it because I mean, that's really what we're talking about. I mean, we'll get there.
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Ed Mabry
Right? Right. Just the final thought on that right here. Def not exorcist. I think they misused the term. Ego can be the safety blanket you need to let go of. Yeah, there's a difference between what they're asking. It's like a lot of these new age movements are like, kill the sense of self, you know, and then other things, like maybe don't be so full of yourself. Obviously that's a good thing to experience. You know, don't take yourself so seriously.
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Top Lobster
But early in this, in this series we, we talked about submission, right? And it's one of the harder things to do. I'm still not sure that I've completely done it, but especially as men, I think that's like, that's what we're talking about here. Submission to God, not stripping myself of who I am.
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David Lee Corbo
Whose will are you going to pursue? Are you going to pursue your will? Are you going to pursue God's will? You don't. And you can pursue God's will and still be yourself. Because what I do and the way I do it, it pleases. I'm hoping it's, hopefully it's pleasing God, but it's not going to be the same way as, as utop or you, Raven, because you're different people. God can use you differently. If we were all the same, then we're, we're not going to benefit anyone now. We have different ways of reaching people.
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Ed Mabry
Weren't we put here to prophesy? Like that's the, the main function, right? It's like we have to spread the word of God. And, and so I, A lot of people get upset with us. A lot of other Christians who are more buttoned up get upset with us. And I'm like, look, dude, we're reaching. We're literally pulling in dangerous retards. These are people that, that believe in God but don't have that in them to adhere to this, like staunch, buttoned up, conservative, like holier than thou kind of atmosphere that some of the church promotes. And we're reaching these people. And if we're reaching these people, I can't imagine for a second that God doesn't want me to use this screwed up personality that I have to try.
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Top Lobster
To pull people in.
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Ed Mabry
Never.
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Top Lobster
It was never my intention to do that anyway, but it just so happens. So, like, when people get upset about it, I'm like, I don't really know what to tell you. I'm not out here, like actively doing a ministry. I'm doing this thing I find interesting and other people do too. So that's it. They'd be more interesting and they'll follow you. I guess that's why you're mad.
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David Lee Corbo
Exactly. I mean, some people are going to gravitate to the way I teach. Some people are going to say, I don't like it the way Ed teaches. He does this, you know, he gets too technical in these areas. He gets too clinical. I, I want like, you know, praise worship kind of thing. I don't do that. But there are other people.