
Welcome back to Nephilim Death Squad, where the weird gets weirder and the curtain between dimensions gets thinner. This week, Top Lobsta and David Lee Corbo (aka The Raven) are joined by the one and only DOENUT — the internet’s leading occult decoder...
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Top Lobster
Top Lobster Productions.
Donut
We are being hypnotized by people like this. News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going.
Top Lobster
On is absolutely enormous. Oh yeah, dude, this some Nephilim.
David Lee Corbo
It's like we all know what's going down but no one saying what happened.
Donut
To the home of the brave. Take control this now when no one's talking about how they made us finally slaves and everybody's just walking around heading the closet Want to waken to a.
David Lee Corbo
Dead in the grave finally too late. We need to be ready to raise up.
Donut
Welcome to the end of day.
David Lee Corbo
Everybody is slave. Only some are aware that the government releasing poison in the air. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven that is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation. Before we get into today's guest, I would like to remind all of our live viewers that this is a 30 minute preview only. Sometime around the 30 minute mark we'll be going live exclusively to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad where you can continue engaging in the live chat, enjoying this conversation as well as an ad free viewing experience. And you do it all for free. And if you sign up for the seven day free trial, not only will you gain access to everything I just said, but you'll also be there when the tickets for Bohemian Grove drop. I don't know exactly when we're. We're closing in on it now. I anticipate it'll be probably within that seven day free trial. And we want to make sure that our Patreon viewers get first dibs on these tickets because as soon as they go out to the general public, they're going to fly off the shelves. So if you want all of that, if you want access to this event, if you want to be able to get those tickets. Patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad is for. For you. That's right. Joining us. Oh, that's right. Go ahead. What is right.
Top Lobster
No, that's right. I just want to say something. I'm here too.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, that is correct. I'm sorry. I do with a tangent and I just step all over you.
Top Lobster
Oh, good, you did it.
David Lee Corbo
Great.
Top Lobster
I let you roll. It was nice this time. Go ahead.
David Lee Corbo
It kind of feels nasty when I do it. Anyway, joining us today is Donut Everybody say what up to Donut before we get into the show. Donut, where can everybody find your work? What is it that you focus on?
Donut
Yo, yo, what up? It's Donut and I focus on the Illuminata dues. And thank you for having me on. I'm very glad to be here. Congratulations to both y' all success. Just everything that you do, you keep on stepping the game up. And I think you guys teach a lot of the world about teamwork, making the dream work.
David Lee Corbo
That's nice. Behind the scenes, we actually hate each other. And it's nothing but a constant stream of insults and threats. But somehow in that chaos, we do manage to get things done. Donut, where can people find you? Where can they support you? Where can they look at your stuff?
Donut
You could find me at D O E N U T. I spell it like Donut. And we go over the occult symbols. I'm all over the place, all over the. The web. And also, do you guys communicate telepathically? Because when I work with someone for such a long time, we start speaking where we just know how they're feeling and all that.
Top Lobster
Kind of.
David Lee Corbo
Have we infiltrated each other's minds yet? Are we that deep?
Top Lobster
I can tell. I can tell when he's off. Like the last couple of days he's been off and. And the Celsius thing actually makes sense. Actually, Donut, maybe. Maybe you could like walk us down this.
David Lee Corbo
I would love to talk about that. Because I'm not going to say the word. Not because I'm self censoring, but because it's very hard for the AI to censor this word. It's a. It's a fun combination of two words. But I've been creating a particular universe on. Yeah, I've been making everybody black. And. And I think I've been kind of in a bit of a manic state and. And I didn't realize it until I had gotten up at 2 o' clock in the morning one day a couple of days ago, and I said to myself, oh, my word, what are people going to think that I've been making them black? I haven't even stopped to think about the people I've been making black. And somehow that really did it almost like shook me a little bit. I also did it to cats, but I'm not really. Cats aren't people. And so I'm not too concerned about that. But. And also it came out really well. I realized that it was. What may have been the catalyst was Celsius.
Top Lobster
It wasn't just that that cued me off. It was like we did one of the better episodes we've ever had with Nathaniel Gillis. If you ever get a chance to talk to him, talk to him. The guy is like, I guess he's an incubus, succubus specialist. This kind of thing also deals with.
David Lee Corbo
It sounds like a sexual occupation.
Top Lobster
Yeah, well, no, I mean, it was an amazing episode. David doesn't remember any of it because he was in a fugue state from like a mix of Celsius and creating this like, AI mixture of white people turned to black. And. But even before that, I could tell something was off. Like, I was just messaging you. And the way you were answering me, I was like, something's wrong.
David Lee Corbo
You know what I think it is? So I don't. I don't process stress very well. And, and the way that it ends up manifesting is I don't feel it whatsoever until all of a sudden I feel it all at once. And it's so foreign to me because I don't feel it on a normal basis that I don't even. I can't even identify what's happening to me. I just know I'm really reactive today. And, and that isn't great for some people on Twitter. They end up catching the wrong end of that stick. But. But that's no fault of their own. Even it. And I don't know if it's any fault of mine, I swear it is the fault of Celsius. And I'm. I'll tell you what, I'm even cautious to, to explore this idea because our, our buddy from the phone booth podcast, Ted, he got a effectively like a cease and desist letter from Celsius.
Donut
Really right there, sees the third letter. It's next to a degree. So it's the third degree. And some say that the theosophist Helen Blavatsky and whatnot plans was to initiate the world in a third degree Masonic ritual is the first three steps or the most important on the world stage as well. This is why you got a judge in the gavel three times in baseball. The there's three strikes, three outs, 33 and the big Jake Paul Tyson. But ritual that was streamed on Netflix. Everyone saw the Celsius the third degree ritual on stage. And that's what I think it is. I think a lot of the control system is through symbolism. And it won't be the downfall, it'll be the people's downfall because people react like you said to, to certain symbols. If I posted a Star of David on my Twitter. Think about how many people are controlled by a symbol, where they will react. So there's definitely power in symbolism. And there's a great quote by Alfred Korzypski said, who rules our symbols, rules us. So there's nothing evil with a symbol, but through the imprinting of your tribe, of your nation, of your favorite football team or sports star, whatnot. The imprinting goes into the autonomic nervous system on a cellular level, which is different than brainwashing. The MK Ultra projects failed in a lot of ways because a lot of people who had a faith or a belief of, you know, something could shake off the mind control. But the mind control through imprinting is much more effective. And that is what's happening. And I know that might sound pretty deep. I could go into it even.
David Lee Corbo
Well, no, it's a fascinating concept because I've been pointing out a lot of. Along with this Orphic egg that keeps popping up in a lot of ceremony lately, there's also the presence of symbolism that you could correlate with, like the divine feminine or the goddess. And that's like an inverted triangle or an inverted pyramid or the moon is often a symbol that's associated with that. But, but these are. The moon's not evil, right? Oh, actually, I don't know. Some people do think that the moon is out there to like eat souls. Right. That's where Pac man came from. The, the video game Pac man is about the moon.
Donut
It's a Gucci symbol.
David Lee Corbo
Right, right. So, but, but, but outside of that, I mean, I don't think that the moon is inherently evil. And, and certainly an upside down triangle isn't inherently evil. It's something that pops up in nature. You know, it happens quite naturally. It's. It's a geometric shape that's fundamental to the realm that we inhabit. So I do agree with that, that these symbols, it's almost like they just get hijacked.
Donut
Absolutely. They get hijacked all throughout centuries because they're already deep in our subconscious mind. Like, I got a rose on my head and there's tons of rows. I just like how this looks. I think it looks cool.
David Lee Corbo
I literally have a blue hat with a. It just like that.
Donut
It just, it looks cool. But these symbols get hijacked. You got the tutor rose. See, it's a dope symbol. And it get, it gets hijacked and used. And it's very important to use these symbols, get rid of the old generation of useless eaters and imprint the new Generation with symbols and give it a meaning behind it. And then you can control the symbol through the imprinting of that symbol. Yeah, the. The moon, the yoni. I look at all this stuff on the world stage. Like Katy Perry going up into space, holding up the daisy. Like, can we.
David Lee Corbo
We have that video? Let's play it a little bit and let's talk about it. Not Celsius. We're sorry, Celsius. Please don't come for us. Here, let's play this. Oh, wait, that's my end. I gotta press play. Hey, you went up there.
Top Lobster
Glenn. I got you. I got you, Glenn.
David Lee Corbo
Oh, the moon. You guys, I don't have to tell you. Look at the moon.
Donut
Look.
David Lee Corbo
Look at the moon.
Top Lobster
Look at the moon.
David Lee Corbo
Oh, my gosh.
Top Lobster
Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's amazing.
David Lee Corbo
Oh, there's a butterfly. She's flashing a butterfly. Especially in such a short video where, where symbols count for everything. And if you really look at this, there's at least three just off the top of my head that identify. I'm sure if you really looked into it, you know, there'd be a lot more. But this is a confusing moment because we have this tendency. I. I know that a disproportionate amount of celebrities and, and high level, let's say influential people are interested in subnautic adventure. They. They have their licenses for, you know, deep ocean submersibles. We saw that happen with the, you know, the big famous submersible that happened a few years ago now that, like. Yes, yes. And so we have that. Now we have the opposite of it. It's like, you know, there seems to be some gaining of knowledge. This gnosis that is either at the bottom of the ocean or at like the tallest peaks, right? Like spiritual, spiritual concepts about people climbing high places to gain access to either wisdom, you know, insight, or entities. But through any other context besides what I just talked about. It's very strange to send these women into space if you believe they even went to space. And it's also strange that the only one that I can identify is Katy Perry. So they. So they took a bunch of people that nobody really knows, and then Katy Perry is there and, and, and that gives it some notoriety. And then we launch them into the upper atmosphere, or at least that's what they want you to think. And as far as I can identify, it just looks like a big ritual. It's rife with all kinds of symbols and. And I don't know. I'm excited to talk to you about it because I said if there's anybody that can make some sense of this, it's going to be donuts. So what did you, what was your take on it?
Donut
Well, the submersible exploded with the billionaires in the ocean down below. Then you got as above, so below. That was during the summer solstice, which is, you know, when you get Bohemian Grove. And then this was the spring equinox, so it was like, above. And then you get this superb owl, right, the super bowl, which is probably the biggest ritual in world history that we know about because we have Netflix and television and cell phones. So everybody's partaking in the ritual, charging the symbols so them going up into space. I think it was sort of a completion because I'm looking at, looking at this stuff for a few, you know, a few years. I don't think it's just one ritual. I think the whole year is a ritual playing out with these big events on the world stage. And whenever these big events happen on the world stage, they're not coincidental, especially when it affects the world, governments or whatever, like a lockdown or a war or something like this. These are not by mistake. This is shifting the culture into a direction. But God is in control of everything. And also there's energetics to these different rituals when you put, like, energy on it, emotional energy on it. Just kind of going back to the cells. I know the Celsius. The Celsius and how it makes people feel. Not just the drink of needing to be stimulated, which I am definitely like, fall.
David Lee Corbo
You know, I was using it for the podcast. Like, I was like, it's going to help me focus. And, and it did, you know, because sometimes you just get a little bit sleepy, and then all of a sudden you're like, I got to be on because I have a show coming on. So I'm drinking it, and I'm not under the illusion that it's good for me, but I wasn't aware of, like, to what degree it was bad for me. It felt really crazy. It was, it was, I was just so on edge and constantly feeling the compulsion to, like, make something, do something and, like, really impulsive. Very strange.
Donut
I, I, I'm with you. I love the uppers. I like the nicotine and the caffeine. I like feeling awake. I don' be all sleepy because I'm already sleepy how I am. But the, the substances, whatever they are, affect a certain emotional frequency in the body. And I know it sounds new ag and whack, but, like, the liver is connected to resentment and anger and Resentment is like just replaying that situation. I'm angry. I'm angry about this thing. And you can see a lot of angry people on the Internet. For example, they'll have an alcohol problem in personal life. Usually they don't show that in public life. But the alcohol is helping them deal with this because that goes straight to the liver. Someone like me, I'm the sad little crybaby all the time. That's why I like to smoke, because the lungs are connected to sadness. So I'm always smoking. So there is something deeper happening on the world level when it comes to food products, these rituals and space. I know I'm getting kind of off topic, but just, I don't think it's.
David Lee Corbo
Off topic at all because this, this like you touched on it a moment there ago, the connectivity between like, you know, the, the submersible all the way to sort of like the UAP egg retrieval situation and then the super bowl and, and Caesar's Superdome and, and, and now all of a sudden this Katy Perry thing. It's very clear that, yeah, it's a big continuation of a ritual and we don't really understand the ways that it affects us.
Top Lobster
It kind of makes me wonder about the current news of, of them taking away the, the petroleum based food dyes. The ones that are like pretty much just like waste poisons. And I'm like, all right, so those were waste poisons for sure. They're disrupting your endocrine system and they're doing a couple of other things to you. Why remove it now? It's like for our benefit? Or is it like we can remove this now in order to invoke XYZ behavior that we're going to need for this upcoming ritual? Like, is that. What do you think?
Donut
Oh, wow. I didn't even think about that. That's exactly what's going on, bro. They better not take my red 40, America. You know what's going on here? That's a great point. Because we are. Me being in sobriety, I became addicted to food more so. And even getting older, I got this just love for food now. And it is a drug with all the different chemicals that are in the food. Like, I'll start. I mean, I need a burger right now. What's going on? You know, because there is chemicals in the drug that we're addicted to. Removing those chemicals now, people are going to be freaking out. I never even thought about that, bro.
David Lee Corbo
What's going to happen? I wonder if we're going to see. I wonder how Quickly. This is going to be rolled out because I know it's affecting. Yeah, they're supposed to stop the processing of, you know, remove that from the process. But I wonder how quick until we reach a new baseline. And this is kind of a new normality, you know.
Top Lobster
Two years. Two years. So it's going to take until 2026 for them to eliminate all of this from like it's going to be illegal to sell at a certain point in 2026 because right now there's so much of it produced that sits in a factory and then it's got to go out. They're not just going to throw this stuff out. So it, it'll go on. Then when it's eliminated, we'll be using like a beat. It's like beet extract to create the red dye rather than red 40. And I think that people are going to react strange. Like in the end maybe people will have a clearer mind. Maybe it's all for like some sort of ascension. But in the interim when you're detoxing from this stuff, they're gonna be whacked out. And, and also like, if they don't understand that like, like I've been on a drug or I've been on a chemical and now it's taken away and people aren't even aware of this stuff.
David Lee Corbo
So they have to wean off. You're gonna have to. Somebody's gonna have to have like a red dye 40 stash so that we don't go straight into like withdrawal. Yeah, you gotta get. Just take a lick. Not the whole thing, just a little bit, just to wean you off.
Donut
Oh man. Yeah, that's definitely on point. I didn't even put that together, but I'm gonna make a video on that and add that into the research for sure. And so these rituals, they take place not just in one year long span, but. Because that's what I was thinking, but it's even longer. I think that it could be a whole century long ritual going on. That'd be a good title right there. Century Long rituals. The super bowl is connected to the egg rituals because it is a fertility right. Just like this space ritual was a fertility right. And we can go back to Jack Parson and all Alistair Crowley and the modern rocket program and whatnot to see that this did go back, did happen in the desert where they were doing these different types of fertility rights. But what I saw during the lockdowns, because this has always been connected to Ishtar, which is the fertility goddess. And you Even see the Ishtar logo on this space mission. And there's a 33 on the symbol and the Baphomet and even the goat imagery of the Baphomet, that goat, even.
David Lee Corbo
The flower, I think, is associated. Like the daisy is a symbol.
Donut
He loves me. He loves me not. It' yeah, it's a. It's a fertility thing for sure. And Katy Perry performed at the super bowl as Ishtar, riding the lion. Like, that's what the Ishtar logo looks like. It looks like she's riding the line. I don't know if she's riding the line, but when the lockdowns happen, we weren't allowed to hug each other, and we weren't. We had to stay six feet, you know, away. And so there was no fertility be going on. So they had the weekend come out with all men. So there was no fertility. There was. Everyone dropped on the stage and it looked like a cemetery behind him. There was no fertility. Then the world opened back up. And then we got Rihanna pregnant at the super bowl, revealing she was pregnant at the super bowl, and she was the yolk. So it looked like an egg. She looked like the egg yolk. And then she reveals that. And then even the Kendrick Lamar ritual going into the fertility stuff, now it gets super crazy, into a transhuman symbolism, which has been a long plan going back to Julian Huxley and whatnot, where they were on the upside down triangle, where it was Kendrick and some girl. So right there, they're in the womb, they're in the matrix, and they're getting intimate in a sense. And then the. It wasn't just white and red, there was blue. And people are like, that's an American flag. It was the, the white. It could be like the white blood cells, the red blood cells, and putting in a blue symbolically of this new Homo sapien that. No, her varari. And all the different transhumanists have said that 2045, we're gonna have this new species on Earth. And that's. That's what it's all about.
David Lee Corbo
I've. I've gotten to this point where I'm looking at it like you were talking about Blavatsky, and Blavatsky and Alice Bailey both said that 2025 was going to be the beginning of a. Of a new age. It's supposed to be the age of Aquarius, but they've also used the, The. The expression golden age. And I'm. I'm now looking at the Super Bowls because Donald Trump talks about There being a Golden age. And there was the first emperor of Rome, I think, talked about or created what was called what was considered a golden age historically. And so Donald Trump was supposed to be the first sitting president to ever attend a Super Bowl. And of course, the super bowl, the Caesar Superdome, from the top down looks like a gigantic egg. And so when that was happening, I'm following all this and I'm like, oh, my God, like, he is like the first emperor of Rome. He's ushering in the Golden Age. He's inside the egg, and the egg has been this thing the whole time. And then when it happens. Right. Because I'm, I'm. I started to get a little overly speculative because it was sensational. I was like, who knows? Maybe we'll see some sort of like an assassination attempt or something like that. Because it seems to be. None of the data pointed to that, but it was a significant enough moment that I thought maybe that Then.
Top Lobster
You know what's funny, David?
David Lee Corbo
So what's that?
Top Lobster
There's a couple of things here. I want to stop you with the Golden Age stuff because, like, we mentioned it a lot on the show, but it came to my attention that when, when we're talking about the Golden Age, the Nephilim existed specifically in the Golden Age in. In multiple myths, whether it's like the Greek myth or even the antediluvian myth.
David Lee Corbo
Or reality that we believe Atlantis would have been considered a Golden age.
Top Lobster
Right, Right. So the Nephilim existed in some form or fashion. And, you know, if you do believe the New Testament, the Book of Revelation, where they say it'll be in the end times, as in the days of Noah, we're talking about the return of the Nephilim. And we have all this rhetoric around the Golden Age, but something to back up to what Donut said as well. You're talking about this in, in 2045, this new species of human. And it's just sticking in my head because when we were talking to Nathaniel Gillis, the episode that David was. Doesn't even remember because he was just knocked out on Celsius. He's. He like, continued to harp on this idea of a new species, a new. Not a new species, but like another species, a type of human. And he's talking about this. It's like a techno. Technocratic necromancy or a necromancer. And this new human would be the result of, like, reviving from the dead. It's like, like the idea of the homunculus. Wherever Juan is, shout out Juanayawa so is that, I mean, we could be going towards that. Is that what we're talking about with transhumanism, like a homunculus kind of thing? Or do you think it's going more.
Donut
Towards, I don't know, the whole transhumanism thing is. I've been researching it over for a while, but diving more deeply into it, I haven't been connecting it with prophecy. That's the correct way to put it. I, I hope I said that right. Just the word transhuman was coined by Julian Huxley. He was the creator of the British Eugenic Society and the Wildlife Fund, UNESCO, where the aliens are coming out of the UNESCO heritage sites. So right now when I look at transhumanism, aliens and the climate, because that's what this whole that's going to be. That, that's really the big push, even with the, the late Pope and whatnot, is always been the push for this climate. Because the end goal is world communism. According to all the conspiracy research that I've looked into, that's the end goal. And to activate that, they have a bunch of different plans. One can be green men from Mars or the climate's bad or, you know, so the whole transhuman thing, maybe it's the upgrade, you know, Elon Musk or the tech elite, where there's this other philosophical thing that I find fascinating with the Dark Enlightenment, which is, you know, a big philosophy behind the Dark Maga, which is this technocratic system and their philosophy and their beliefs and accelerating society into a direction. It's very interesting and I, I'm not at the, the level of bashing it yet because I, I, I, a lot of wicked smart people I know like it. And a lot of wicked people, Wicked smart people, not wicked people. Wicked smart people are like, yo, this is absolutely evil. But it all at the end of the day is for cybernetics and world control, how to control and manage the populace. That's always the agenda of the, the, the empires.
Top Lobster
Are you talking about with this like the Dark Maga kind of agenda, does that somehow like dovetail into the woke, right? This like the Jordan Peterson thing, this argument, Is that what you're talking about?
Donut
Oh, so yeah, we could get into to that because this is also very important to understand the control system of now. It's popularized the woke, right, the WOKE left because it's very simple. It's a simple way to put it. What it is, is ideologies of communists, ideologies of socialists. And this is, this broke my brain this is how I broke out of a lot of the Matrix, especially in the the truth kind of environment is you got the ideologies of the left and right, but their ideologies are the same, whether that's Marxists or fascists. They all want the same damn agenda at the end and they all act and behave the same. The. It's the two birds, it's like the two wings. But once you study the. The ideology, which I always say, the ideology of the left, which is socialist, communist, you know, that is how I'm able to break through the, the system of control. Because the, that they call it the Woke Mind virus takes over like someone's thought process. But that conversation, I'm happy it's out there. But having Jordan Peterson come in and manage it, this goes into MK Ultra for sure because he is coming from Harvard. So he, Jordan Peterson's wearing. And I believe I'm the first one to, to break this, hopefully, so we'll see if it goes viral or whatever. But he wears the duality suits.
David Lee Corbo
Splitting of the hemispheres.
Donut
The splitting of the hemispheres, which is MK Ultra symbolism right there. And he comes from Harvard, where Timothy Leary comes from. And also a lot of strange events with. I'm not even going to say a lot of the, the names, but big events that happen on the world stage come out of Harvard. So Timothy Leary was all about chaos. And Peterson, he worked in the same department as Timothy. Larry, who changed the culture into chaos. Right. Freed free sex, drugs, rock and roll. Peterson's here to do the same thing and clean your damn room. And order books. Chaos.
David Lee Corbo
So yeah, 12 rules to avoid Chaos. What's. What's the second book? Well, the first one's 12 rules for life and then it's like 12 additional rules for avoiding the chaos or something crazy like that. Beyond order.
Donut
Yeah. So it's, it's all kind of there. But I think that James Lindsay put in the, you know, the woke left. Woke right. I'm really happy that's out there because that the deep researchers that I follow and listen to, they've been breaking this down and they never use that term, but they've been breaking down the ideologies. And that's been a big thing for me, breaking through a lot of what's happening now on the world stage.
David Lee Corbo
It's kind of fascinating because he almost would, would. I mean, he discredits it. Right. Because the, the character that is Jordan Peterson has fallen so tremendously in the public eye that now if he correctly identifies something as the Woke. Right. Well, it falls on deaf ears because he's a psychopath.
Top Lobster
He also has, they also have this like one major sacred cow that they cannot avoid. And that is, I'll just say it out. It's, it's, it seems like it's to criticize the state or the government of Israel. This is not. But, but that's, that's also easily conflated with. They're anti Semitic. It's like, well, you work for the Daily Wire, who is clearly funded by having meetings with the, you know, the president of a foreign country. But that's, that's an aside. So what. But what I'm noticing is because I'm trying to parse through this as well, because I'm hearing their arguments and James Lindsay is such a, like he, he argues. And the people, the people that debate, that use these debate tactics like a Douglas Murray or James Lindsay or even like even a Dave Smith, these are debate tactics. We spoke with Vin Armani yesterday about like winning the debate. We're not even having a conversation. We're not even getting to the bottom of it. You're using tactics. And now whatever the argument was, we can't see it. Although you're right. Like he is right about, about the woke.
David Lee Corbo
Right.
Top Lobster
And they've been warning about it for a long. As a matter of fact, NDS has been warning you about it for a long time. We've been telling you there's going to be a swing to the right and it's going to be extreme. The pendulum is going to break through the wall on the other side.
David Lee Corbo
It'll be as despicable or more as the grotesque oversteps.
Top Lobster
Here's the problem though. The problem is that he'll go on, you know, Peterson will go on Rogan and say, well, you know, the, the problem here is that there are type 2 psychopaths and that they have a genealogy and it's like, yeah, no, they're not. I mean, some of these people are crazy. Sure. Some of the people, everybody's crazy. In my opinion, that's, that's a non starter and that's just an easy way to throw out the baby with a bath water. The commonality here in the middle is, well, what created the WOKE left? Let's go back and take a look at that. And when you really think about it, it's like, well, this is the George W. Bush era. This is the neoconservative movement that made America look like horrible people. And then out of that you get college students that come out radicalized against the empire. And now let's look at what's creating the Woke, right? Or if I'm going to use their terms, it's the same group of people. It's literally the same group of people. But now they have targeted Israel. And correctly or not, I'm not. That's for you to decide. But they have decided this. This is a clear enemy. And you know what to call it an enemy. You decide. But whatever they're doing is not good. It has, it doesn't have our intentions, our intentions up front. So it seems like the same enemy has created these two movements. And now we're like, look at this. Look. Look at these guys. They're the problem. It's like, I don't think, I don't think they're the problem. They're the reaction. They're reacting to you. Both are reacting to you. And the left has been, you know, destroyed pretty much. They. They defame themselves and they look retarded. And their arguments that should have been dealt with, which were legitimate, I don't even want to hear anymore. I don't want to hear a progressive talk about the climate. And, you know, it's like, I want. I'm gonna go dump, Dump oil into the ocean now, because I, I can't stand you that much. And the right is going to do the same thing. So there'll be no discussion about this common sense stuff in the middle. That's what it seems like is going on to me. And Peterson is playing his part wonderfully.
Donut
You said it right there with the discussion. So that's why I don't debate. I've hosted, like one debate, and I thought it was really good.
David Lee Corbo
I watched that. It was amazing, actually. And I could tell. I was watching it. And I'm like, this is so fun that Donut is hosting a debate. It was, it was actually fantastic.
Donut
But I'm a huge fan of Charles Moskowitz. He was breaking. He broke down this whole thing of the ideologies. Charles is like the, the granddaddy of it. His work on, on, on it. I really admire him. And he set that whole, whole thing up because he thought I would be a good. So it was fun, but I thought.
David Lee Corbo
It was, it was good because you were very, you were very fair. You were impartial. You were just, you know, moderating the, the debate.
Top Lobster
It's a hard thing to do. I mean, he literally, he called you guys demons. And I was like, oh, dude, so crazy. So crazy.
David Lee Corbo
Still one of the funniest moments on Nes when he said that, do you see, like, the.
Top Lobster
The whole. The. The dichotomy of, like, where he's coming? Because I don't think his argument. Dustin's argument is not completely incorrect. But what. The way you're coming at, it's like no one's gonna listen. No one's gonna hear the nuance thing.
David Lee Corbo
To say that demons are dead Jews. That's a wild. I kind of like. I mean, look, he's not good with his stuff. I don't think that one, though.
Top Lobster
You'll win the debate.
David Lee Corbo
So the guy at the deli. When the guy at the deli dies, he turns into a demon.
Top Lobster
You win the debate the same way Dave Smith calling, you know, Vin Armani a hooker.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
Top Lobster
It's like you win. You win the debate right there and you shut it down, but there's never any discussion about what the actual matter was.
Donut
Yeah, that's it. The discussion. So I don't like to do the debates, but I do like the conversation. And a lot of stuff gets left out of the conversation. So what I see happening is, like, you know, Ian Carroll hinted that I was a COINTEL agent or whatever because.
David Lee Corbo
Did he really?
Donut
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is before he got famous because I talk crap to one of his, like, friends. And so he responded back and I was like, that's so freaking weird because, like, I never cared about the guy. And I was like, that. That's freaking weird. But then we get all these people that are in the conversation. Like, I am. I'm not invited. And most people aren't invited to get retweeted by Elon Musk or go on Fox News or whatever, you know, oh, well, you know, you could get lucky. You know, I'm saying you could get lucky.
Top Lobster
You know.
Donut
I'll say most, like, because the whole operation is that you are the media. We are the media. But that's not true because we're not in the conversation. And so there's.
David Lee Corbo
Tim Pool is now Tim Pool's in the conversation.
Donut
He's got the Night Templar logo right behind him.
Top Lobster
And now. You see what I mean? It's like, again, he's. Tim Pool meets with Benjamin Netanyahu under Chatham House rules the next week. He's in. He's a White House correspondent.
David Lee Corbo
Incredible. You do that. He's literally going to. I'm telling you this, I'm calling you. I'm calling this right now because of the things we've said to you. Pool, on the Internet. He is going to weaponize the administration against us. And he is going to carpet bomb our homes. And I know this is coming. I know this is coming. Before we go any further though, Donut, I do have to wrap this up for the people who aren't on Patreon. We're at the 38 minute mark, guys, and if you want to continue enjoying this episode and hanging out in the live chat and enjoying an ad free experience, then go on over to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad. Sign up for free for a 7 day free trial and also be there when the tickets for Bohemian Grove drop because they are dropping very soon, guys. Otherwise we are out of here.
Top Lobster
Wouldn't it be fun to just never drop them? Just keep saying, oh my God, just.
David Lee Corbo
Get people all freaked out about a thing that. And just never do it. Yeah, that gives me anxiety just thinking about it, I think.
Top Lobster
Join the Patreon and find out what we do. All right. Yeah. Please continue.
Donut
So, like the, this is something that gets left out of the conversation that, you know, these top influencers that they don't bring up the Knights of Malta, which is one of the, the biggest, like red flags. They'll blame everything on the Jewish people. Not even the institution they go straight from like me or people, even Kanye. And they also leave out stuff like who created, who activated Israel, who activated the Muslim Brotherhood. It wasn't the Jews that activated either. That was the British Empire that launched it. So a lot of the conspiracy, and I understand it totally because it's easier for me to be like the Rothschilds rather than look up all these different hard pronouns. I don't want to do it. Like, how am I going to pronounce all these like Italian names and stuff?
David Lee Corbo
Donut, when did you first like, you know, start becoming a researcher?
Donut
Well, I think it was Jordan Maxwell, like the, the Zeitgeist movie because he's talking about the Saturn symbols. And then I would just watch TV and Super bowl and I'm like, damn, that Saturn symbol. There it is again everywhere. And, and, but I think that that movie was deliberate. Just like Europa movie, I think.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, dude, I, I think the same thing about Europa. So that, that brings me to my next question then. Were you wrong? A ton. When you finally realized, like the official narrative wasn't what it is and you started having to look for extracurricular sources because I was. And, and these. I think all that's happening is like, we had a mass kind of awakening. I hate it. It's a very gay terminology. But we did after Covid. And you Know, these people are just making the same mistake that I made, which is when I realized it wasn't what they told me it was. I fell for a bunch of. On the way there, I'm still falling for, you know, but these people, they. You know, if. Let's say, one of the big things I fell for, honestly, this is gonna sound so stupid. I don't know if I've ever said this before, but I was, like, heavily invested in the idea of Tupac returning. And I mean, like, heavily invested, like he was gonna return on some level and do some. And fix some things. I don't know what he was gonna fix, but I was, like, so sold, baby. And, you know, I've fallen for a lot of stupid on the way to here, where I'm still stupid. And so, you know, I just. I see people doing that where they go, oh, it's not real. What you told me isn't real. And then somebody goes, hey, it's the Jews. And you go, everything is the Jews. And the problem is in everything, there's a little bit of Jews.
Donut
Yes.
David Lee Corbo
You know what I mean? So there's always something for you to grab onto and say, see? See, I was right.
Top Lobster
There's also this thing which. Because. Because obviously I'm seeing, like. I'm seeing past this as well. You had asked me donut at one time, you're like, well, what about the. What about the Jesuit order or something like that? What about the Knights of Malta? And I was like, yeah, no, I. All that stuff. It's just like, the current thing is, like, we're dealing with people that are only at this surface level of the psyop, and it's hard to get past where we're like. The Dave Smith, Douglas Murray debate was sort of at its crux. Something like they're. They're. They're killing children in Gaza, and I don't think we should do that. There's probably a better way that we can go about this. And it's like, it doesn't matter. Like, some people have tweeted, like, I don't care how many kids they got to kill. And I'm just like, yeah, yeah, now we're stuck, you see? And it doesn't help. It's like. It's like being done on purpose by these influences. I'm like, it does not help the Jewish people, who. I understand, like, where their interests lie, but, like, we have to. We've got to kind of talk about this.
David Lee Corbo
It's a donut's point. I could tell You a lot. You know, a decent amount. I could give you the illusion that I know a lot about, like, what happened in Weimar and all this. Right? But I. And if you said, like, yeah, but the Jesuits and. And the Knights of Malta, I go, yeah. Huh? And then if you said, tell me about the Knights of Malta, I'd be.
Top Lobster
Like.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, I don't know. You know what I mean? So it's like, I know of those things peripherally, but the access to knowledge regarding the Jews isn't even access. It's actually, like, pushed. It's funneled towards you. There's an algorithm that's funneling all this information to you, and it's landing on your desk. Whereas if you want to find out about the Jesuits, if you want to find out about the Knights of Malta, you have to go out of your way to do it, because it's not what this machine is feeding you currently.
Donut
Right? Yeah. It's wild. And I fall for a lot of the traps. And this is the thing, is that we got long list of researchers who've gone down a lot of these rabbit holes and warn us a lot of these are traps. But the thing is, is they're not in the conversation. They're gonna put. They grab, like, the sensationalist article people to push people into a direction. So the two things is disinformation and disinformation. And I learned this.
Top Lobster
For.
David Lee Corbo
For whatever reason, your signal just ate dick for the past, like, 30 seconds. You think it's new top?
Top Lobster
No, I. I think it's him. If you're seeing the same thing. Yeah, I was. I was hoping it was just me.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Do you think you could try to refresh your browser, see if there's any luck?
Donut
Yeah, right now I kind of.
David Lee Corbo
It's real broken up.
Donut
Okay, I'll. I'll exit and come back in.
David Lee Corbo
All right, thanks. You know what? He's. He's got a good point, though, where he's talking about how the people who do talk about those things often are not part of the conversation. So there is a grooming of the conversation by the Twitter algorithm, and I think even people like you and me are allowed to engage in that conversation, because on Twitter, we just go like, it's the Jews. But Twitter doesn't know that. On our show, we're like, now that we got you here, let's sit down and talk about this a little bit more. Okay. There we go. You already look better. So. So, donut. What I was saying was I. I think you're right. That There's a conversation that's being groomed, and the people that are taking part in it are not the people that are talking about the Jesuits or the Knights of Malta. It is specifically the people that are talking about the Jews. Top and I are actually allowed to engage in that Twitter conversation because we liberally dunk on the Jews because it's a lot of fun. And when you come to the show, we go, hey, now that you're here, here's where do I. We don't offer nuance on Twitter because it's simply. It's not conducive to what's happening on Twitter. People aren't.
Top Lobster
We have to open the door. I mean, see, so me talking like that on Twitter gets me the door open to go and talk to Stu Peters, who he invited me on the Talk for five minutes. Like, he does, like, these quick hit segments, and most of the time I'm, like, busy. But I was like, I'll come on. I ended up talking to him for an hour, and it turned. He was like, well, the Jews, right? And I was like, sometimes, like, about this. Yes. But then he went. He went to, like, a position of, so, obviously Hitler good. And I said, no, obviously Hitler bad, because xyz. And he said, oh, that's all hearsay. And I was like, actually, no, here's the proof of it. And the interview ended, like, right after, so. But it got me to a position where I'm like, okay, I hear what you're saying here, and I understand the frustration. It's. It's. It's pretty obvious in your face. The solution is not, you know, 1944. What happened there, that's not. It's almost not the solution. And also, this guy that you're talking about, not good. And I'll tell you exactly why. But we can't. We can't even get to that point. So I. I don't know why.
David Lee Corbo
It seems like the only way to engage with that conversation on Twitter is you either toe that line or you shit post that line. And then the algorithm can't differentiate, so it's like, good. Another. Another Jew post. Go ahead to the. To the front of the line, sir, please, go ahead.
Donut
And.
David Lee Corbo
And then it allows us to. Well, it allows me to do all kinds of things, and you put me to the front of the line. But, yeah, I would say that if you're not talking about the Jews, it wouldn't surprise me if the algorithm is not promoting you.
Top Lobster
No.
Donut
And it's. It's weird because from my research, And I guess this will be kind of good to just throw on A different perspective out there is that these pogroms and whatnot and blaming the Jewish people because it's not the institutions they're going after. You know, it's like. Like you. Like. Like there's corruption in all the different religious institutions. It's going after people like the guy at the. The deli or whatever, or this guy on the plane. Flight. Look at that guy. He's doing something to the plane. You know, that this is actually a systematic system for the. The elite to. To use. Because when something happens, like the entire planet getting locked down, that everybody, every nation, every country agreed with and did a Masonic handshake and said, yeah, let's lock everyone down, everybody was okay with it. It wasn't just one or two. Two countries controlling that. That was every. Every country is saying, okay, okay to that. Then the world opens back up. Then we get, you know, J6. We get world War Ukraine, World War Middle east, you know, and our whole, like the. Everything just tilted now. It's like the. The Jays the last two years, and it's been promoted by the mainstream. You know, it's promoted by Kanye West.
David Lee Corbo
You know, they're talking about it on Joe Rogan's show. Theo Vaughn, who. Somebody tried to press me on this. They said this wasn't the case. And then I looked it up, and it still seems to be the case that Theo's last name is Von. Von Something Kin. I forget what it is, but it means, like, the Juice layer. It's something really crazy. And then all of a sudden he's on. Joe Rogan's talking about, you know, all the Jews that are in, I don't know, Hollywood or something like that. And I was like, that's crazy, because this guy's last name means the Jew Killer. And then he's on his show later on, like his own show this past weekend, and he's got like a whole. I don't know if it was a board or if it was just, you know, something on the computer, but it was like showing you the corporate structure of some nefarious industry. And he's like, look, they're all Jews, man. And I'm just like, why does a man named the Juice layer, who is also the most unassuming character ever, all of a sudden now he's the delivery vehicle for this message. And that's fascinating to me. I'm not saying Theo Vaughn is wrapped up in this. Sometimes I think God is just very funny, you know?
Donut
You just have Ben Affleck gone. CIA. Ben Affleck, you know.
David Lee Corbo
Okay, yeah, that's probably these, these social.
Donut
Media influencers are social engineering the populace into the direction they, they want it to go into.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
Donut
And the Jewish people are such a, a small minority. There's zero. There's more Native Americans for example. Like do you ever see Native Americans walking around? And I'm in Arizona and there, there's not a lot of them, but there's more of them than the Jewish population. And the ones that get put in the front is even smaller. So it's like 000001% and they get all put up in the front and, and a lot of them aren't even Jewish that are put up in the front. That I've been learning.
David Lee Corbo
Isn't it fun to note that all of the people that are calling out the Jews are, are like based and, and cool and all of the people who are defending the Jews are like fundamentally broken, flawed and corrupted people. Like that's what I'm talking about. So you have Jordan Peterson. He's like talking about the woke, right. And you know, I think he's correct. I think that is emerging. But he is all up in the game. Right. So his credibility doesn't exist. And a lot of the people, take Mr. Patriot or whatever his name is, for example. It's like he is one of the loudest voices on X defending, you know, the Jewish people. But then he's, he's falling apart at the seams and you're finding out he's a huge piece of his court case just got leaked and all these crazy things and you find out he's a grifter and just a bad guy. So where are the, the based, healthy people who are successful who haven't had a massive falling out with the culture? Where are those people that are standing up and going, hold on a second, pump the brakes here. This is not what we think it is. That doesn't seem.
Top Lobster
We're here. We were saying it, but we're not going to be able to say it on that stage because it makes sense.
David Lee Corbo
Right, right, right.
Top Lobster
You're not going to be able to be like, yeah, I get what you're saying, but let's have a discussion. It's not going to be allowed. This is the whole point of this thing. It's a, the whole point is to have this weird extreme where you can create a caricature of this and then continue with whatever narrative they have planned.
David Lee Corbo
And I don't think that it's all non organic either. I think there are a couple of nefarious actors that are pushing this in, in this direction, but then I think it kind of organically develops from that. So the, the inception of it is not organic. But then what happens afterwards is like, I remember there was a time where you and Jake Shields butted heads a little bit and it's really cool that you guys reconciled. But like, I don't think Jake Shields is a nefarious actor with a, with a, what would you call it, a mission to like, you know, out the Jews or anything like that. I think he just sees what has now snowballed into an organic noticing, let's say. And, and you know, it's become unignorable by this point. So now even if it, even if it's not steered, it's like cats out of the bag or the snowballs rolling down the hill.
Top Lobster
I saw that happen. I like a year, a couple years ago. It was Shane Cashman and this lady, Eliza Blue. She's like, she was like on hip hop. She was a hip hop dancer. And then she turned into like a child advocate. People are probably familiar with her. She was also kind of like in Elon's circle, one of the people that he would retweet and communicate with before he took over X. And something had happened. She had been called a liar. There was a weird falling out. I don't even remember the details of this, but there was this weird gang stalking thing that happened to her and there were a lot of bots that were accusing her of something. And then the bots attracted regular people, people that I interacted with previously that I kind of knew. Some of them I've seen even in real life. And now they're on this thing and they're getting this feedback. It was like if I call her a, I get like 7,000 likes and they were just like boom, boom, boom. And I mean hundreds of thousands a day to the point where like it was driving her insane. She didn't know how to deal with it. It was. And she kind of deserved it. She got, she lied. She got caught lying. So I'm not saying she was correct, but the reaction was bizarre. Then all of a sudden, like turning off a water faucet. Gone. Everything. All the bots stopped, but the normal organic people continued. And I even remember them saying something like, I don't know what happened to my, my interactions. Like I was doing like crazy. And this is before even people getting paid. So they were just operating on pure dopamine and they're like, my interactions were crazy. And now I can't get two likes. Like, just like before. And I'm like, wonder what happened? I wonder what that was.
David Lee Corbo
It's never organic. It was never.
Top Lobster
It was like, like a try on op, like to see if this will work on this small influencer. And now the funny thing is, like, she is so buried from that. Like, the negative interactions that she's had. She's got a quarter million followers. She can't get more than 50 likes on a post.
David Lee Corbo
You know, all of this is later. It's all like order out of chaos. Like, all of it operates off of that. And. But. But the thing that they don't tell you is they sew the chaos first, and then they wait for an opportunity to create order out of it. And that's what I've become convinced that the Super Bowls are now is it's just like a big ceremony where the. The stadium represents the egg and what's inside the egg. It's order, right? All the things. You know, if you look at the Memphis Mizraim symbol, it's. It's the inside the egg is Jacob's ladder. It's a symbol for Rosicrucianism. It's. It's basically all the tools you need to create order out of the chaos that you also created. So I think that even what we're seeing now is like, especially on Twitter. Twitter is like the embodiment of that chaos. It's just what order do they want to create out of it?
Donut
And it's so addicting in my hand. I'll be on. I'll be like, oh, it's like I got this, like, weird relationship with Twitter that I go on it and it activates my survival mechanism. Like, oh, my God. God, everybody wants me. They're gonna come get me now. Oh, my God. But like, it activates something like, oh, look how special I am. Like, that I could, like, my people are controlling everything or whatever. There was a funny joke, like a Jewish joke where they were like, yo, I. I read all the. The. The white supremacist, like, newspapers. They're like, why? Because if I read the Jewish newspapers, it doesn't say anything good, but I want read the white supremacist. Like, they're controlling the world, they're controlling the banks. And I thought that that was pretty, pretty funny. But also taking a. A further back scope of the big picture, the world was locked down and they had chat, GBT and the AI and all that ready And I, what I think going on, stepping back from my ego, from my survival mechanisms and everything, and just looking at the technology and where the world's heading, where we are now, as the technology we have now is not the technology being used. So during the lockdowns, none of us had AI or freedom of speech or nothing like that. Now Google is. You can talk on YouTube, you could talk on Twitter, you could talk on Facebook, you could say all the, the, the anti Semitic stuff you want, pretty much anything. I've been banned off all these places for talking about actual, like the lockdowns, right. You know, I'm removed from there, but now it's all open up. So when the world was locked down, that was an algorithm they were running that the whole world agreed on. Let's run these algorithms, let's open it up and let's do this war, okay? Let's study this war, okay? This is how people reacted to. We didn't get enough data for February 2022. Let's do the, the biggest battle, the, the holy battle, which goes into all the three Abrahamic religions, right? It goes into the imprinting of Jews, Muslims, Christians. It. There is an imprinting and a. Around this, it's a religious holy war, you know, happening. And while it's happening and everybody's like freaked out and triggered, let's open free speech. So now they're collecting all the data they need for the AI and I think that's what's happening now. Like a war should not last as long as it's lasting over almost two years, over 500 and something days. It's because they're running the algorithm on it for who knows why, who knows what's going on. But I think that's what's happening. And when you look into this dark enlightenment, Dark Maga and the Technocrats, their articles on it, which I'm not an expert on, but there are articles on it on hyper racism, accelerationism, where they want to accelerate the collapse, they want to push it, and that's exactly kind of what's going on. And I could be totally misunderstanding the philosophy because I'm only reading the headline, but that's what it seems like is the culture is shifting so fast. You got Andrew Tate, right, the most Google man on the world for the little kids, and all the little kids are looking up to him and that's like all algorithm Google and all this. It seems to me that everybody's. Do you know. Yeah, duped.
David Lee Corbo
I was gonna say. I feel like I'm in the same Box because, you know, we, we have a hand in it. I engage with those ideas constantly on X to, to whatever degree. And because I, I guess I have a tendency to not take things seriously enough, I'll lean into the bit, you know, and, and what I recognize is that that does contribute and drive this narrative forward. And I kind of agree with you. It feels like accelerationism is definitely the name of the game. Like, I was, I used to say that whatever was happening on Twitter was going to be happening at the dinner table, just given enough time. And I was talking to my buddy recently and he works in a very similar field that I used to, which is welding and fabrication. And I've been in a bunch of shops, right? And you know, we talk a lot of. But we never did what he said they're doing now, which is they just get together at lunchtime and they just talk about the Jews. And I'm like, whoa, tell them about the bank teller. Oh, the bank teller. Check this out. Donuts. So we went to do big bank business. We had to go open up an account for Nephilim Death Squad. And I'm there, of course, that, that question comes up from the teller, what is Nephilim Death Squad? And of course I'm happy to oblige her and answer the question. And one thing leads to another. I open up immediately and I'm just inundating this old woman with the craziest in the world. And she let slip to me that she has a 25 year old son because I said they're engineering a Jew noticing conversation. And she goes, My 25 year old son, out of nowhere, will not stop sending me videos about how the Jews are doing everything and Hitler was awesome. And I'm like, boom, there it is. Like it has left the, the Twitterverse and it is now at the dinner table, or it's at the bank tellers, or it's on your lunch break at work.
Donut
What I'm confused about is me, when I was growing up in the, in the 90s, what, whatever. And then being an adult in like school as a teenager, all this stuff that people are talking about, we were all talking about, like we were all saying the F word. Every word. You could say, we were all saying that to each other and talking about these topics. And it, it was no big deal. Like, so it's just maybe I had a different circle.
David Lee Corbo
It's not that I don't mean to say that you weren't talking about it before, but there was definitely a time where it was removed. We Weren't allowed to talk about it. Right. And especially as we went to like really progressive cultural talking points and, you know, left leaning values, you weren't talking.
Top Lobster
About it at the dinner table with your mom, like.
David Lee Corbo
Right, right, right. But it turns out when you take away the ability to say the F word or the J word or any of these words, we kind of go until eventually we're allowed to talk about it again, and then it blows the hell up.
Donut
Sam Tripoli did the funniest bit on his where he was doing a Bellamy salute and he's just like, just let it out. It feels good.
David Lee Corbo
Well, that's, that's the air that should be around this. There should be an air of humor around this. Because I think that humor is the great diffuser when it comes to these really intense topics. And people think that there's, you have no place joking about these things. But let me tell you something. When you can't talk about them without exploding, then you better have the ability to joke about them because you got to, you know, lend some brevity to the situation, take the edge off of these topics. I, I always say things were a lot better. Kind of like in the early 2000s when Chappelle show was huge and, and everybody was making fun of everybody and everybody was laughing at each other and laughing at ourselves. You know what I mean? I never felt, me and my mom never felt offended when we watched Dave Chappelle do the wife swapping bit where he was a white faced dude with a blonde wig on and he's going to. You know, I never felt bad about that. It didn't even dawn on me to feel bad. And that's, that's actually remarkable. It didn't even dawn on me all those years ago that I should be offended at anything that he was doing. And I think we were in a much better place back then.
Donut
Yeah. And we were in a place of live and let live and fear can take over. This is why it's so important to have a spiritual solution, which I think that both of you do really well, bringing on, you know, the Christian perspective of spirituality and having that solution of what to do in these times. Can you hear me okay?
David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Yeah.
Donut
And fear, it's, There's. I had a quote on fear in John 4:18. It says there is no fear in love, but perfect love cast out fear. It keeps on going. But that was the sentence. And that's something that, like, that's how, how I operate. Not every day, because I up all the time, like every day I'm just a neurotic anxiety self pity. Oh poor me, look. Oh, they're attacking me. Oh, like what? You know, I get. I go down the, the deep like just negativity. But there's a solution to all that and a lot of it is love and praying for people. Like there's the quote for or you know, forgive them for they do not know. I, I don't want to be like I know what I'm not a theosophy.
David Lee Corbo
No, but that is, that's. That's kind of the point you come to a lot where it's just forgive them Father, because they, they know not. But it's like I mean well, forgive.
Donut
Us trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. And that is what I, I love that prayer because I have done like I've like everybody else. Everybody's up in life and so have I and I, I want, I forgive like people easily be forgiven. If I want to be forgiven, I gotta forgive other people. Place of love like this different energetics to. No, I think that there's a solution and I don't focus on it enough.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, it's, it's. It's something that I've been kicking around a lot. I have to ask myself, like if you look at my Twitter, I am very quick to, to drag somebody and I think if you, if you, if you're not me, then it's very jarring. You look at it and you go like oh my God. And you imagine that I am incredibly invested in my hatred of this other individual. But, but the truth of the matter is.
Top Lobster
Steve Wilkos.
David Lee Corbo
Steve Wilkos, I'm coming to kill you. The truth of the matter is I am not invested at all. And I don't even like really dislike the. I might be like a little bit annoyed with the person, like who is this idiot? But the, the dragging of a person is, is. It's. I don't know, maybe I'm just saying a bunch of shit to cope with my bad behavior, but it's non personal. I'm not invested. I don't even think about that person beyond like for me to hate somebody is like I couldn't even tell you who I actually hate. There's one lady that I'm pretty close to hating, but I don't even think I hate her. So I, I don't really hate anybody. But I get how from the outside looking in it it looks totally insane. But you're right, it's like fear in particular, if you look at all These narratives that are unfolding on Twitter, fear is the great connective tissue.
Top Lobster
Right.
David Lee Corbo
It's like the Jews. Well, it's fear of the Jews and the. And the Jews, what are they doing down there in the tunnels? What are they doing there at the. At the upper echelons of government? Yeah, yeah. And. And. And then you look at the whole, you know, let's go down the racial thing, right. When it comes to black people, which I've engaged with heavily, I've created a whole universe. A lot of it is like, there's this. There's this not highlighting, because I don't. I don't. I don't think it's. It's unfair, but, like, there is this. Every time something happens between a black person and a white person, Twitter, including myself, we grab it and we go, and. And it becomes this great big thing that ultimately. What are you saying? You're saying, be afraid, be afraid, be afraid. And so if you look at much of the worst narratives that are unfolding on social media or just on the world stage, fear is the driving factor behind it.
Top Lobster
It.
David Lee Corbo
Or at least it's what they want you to feel. It's true.
Top Lobster
It's. It's a reactive. It's a reactive emotion. And I fall for it all the time. Like, especially, like, the videos. You see those videos, and a lot of times I see them and I'm like, damn, man. Like, I used to live in that. That could have been me. That was somebody I knew. And, like, you're fearful of it. Think about your kids. And. But The Bible says 365 times, new and Old Testament, fear not for, like, a plethora of different reasons. A lot of times when angels show up and people like, what the. And they're like, yo, don't be afraid. But it's. It makes it. It makes a. A point to tell you, don't be afraid. Move forward. Move forward bravely. But I. I also think that that doesn't mean to not be cautious of things that we're doing.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah. And also careful not to, like, not address it either. Right. Because that's that. We talked to Donnie Darkin, and that was almost that.
Donut
I, like, I liked it.
David Lee Corbo
It was wild. Because there wasn't so much to disagree about there. It was just like, you know, his line of argument could be also applied to the idea that let a man walk up and punch you in the mouth and do absolutely nothing about it, because God uses all things for his plan and, you know, fear not.
Donut
And it's like, so much from that podcast, like, to understand a lot of stuff. That was a good show.
David Lee Corbo
It was, you know, but it's this conversation that keeps coming up. You know, it's like, I'm not afraid of the Jews or I'm not afraid of. I'm not afraid of it. I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid of any nefarious group. You know, people might look at the. The. The desire to look into these things and then make a show about them as being an alarmist and as being afraid of this impending thing. And that's not at all my relationship with this information. My relationship is always one of curiosity and interest. It probably even to a fault. Sometimes I think I love the pursuit of this information too much, but it's never a place of. Of fear. I'm not afraid of these things. It just. They seem to be facts of the realm that we inhabit. And. And what use is there to be afraid of facts? It just doesn't. It is what it is. And if you can't change it, suffering, you know, by way of fear is certainly not going to help the situation at all.
Donut
Being in sobriety, when I first got sober, I felt so bad for the. This guy who was trying to show me, like, how to live life sober. And, like, he'd pray, and I'd be like, oh, this poor guy. He's praying. You know, like, because I was such a. Like, resentful. I wouldn't say I was an atheist totally, because I would do foxhole prayers of, oh, get me out of this, or whatever. I. I swear, like, trying to make a. Like a bribe with God. Like, it's so ridiculous.
Top Lobster
I love it. I love that. That's. That's beautiful, man.
Donut
Yes. And. But the thing that happened was, is that he told me because I couldn't. I was obsessed, like, over, like, weed, alcohol. I was, like, obsessed. Like, I could not stop. And he said to pray, to have it removed. And I did, and it was removed. And I was like, okay, there's something bigger going on that I'm not aware of. And then just doing little spiritual things throughout the day because I just kept on screwing people over. And I'm like, why is everybody showing up to my house, like, all the time, like, to drop me? Well, because I'm calling them the F word, you know, or I'm stealing from them. And, like, I'm like, okay, I played. I'm like my own worst enemy. And so this spiritual journey that I've been on, a lot of it is through Christian values. And I know, you brought values, which I always thought the Judeo part was the Ten Commandments. That's what I, I don't know. So that's kind of, if I'm adding on to something.
Top Lobster
That's where I thought that is, this is the, this is like what I'm arguing as well, which is like a bigger discussion. There is. So there's a continuation of the law, which if you're a Christian, you believe that Jesus fulfilled. If you're not, they, the, the current Jews, the Rabbinic Jews have created the Mishnah and the Torah. The Torah, the Mishnah and the Talmud. And that's like 500 years after Jesus died. And these are just like an expansion. It's an expansion of the Torah. So this is what I'm talking about. And I think when they say Judeo Christian, most of these people that are practicing Jews abide by this new Rabbinic law, which is a response to Christianity or to what Jesus came to do. Therefore, if it's a response. And in, in the Talmud, it talks about false prophets and it actually specifically talks about Jesus burning like boiling and excrement and piss. These things are in opposition with each other, which is fine, I understand. If they're in opposition. There, there are two prophecies that, that are competing. Just don't tell the religion that I believe in. Don't, don't mix it up and confuse. Like we're on your side. But realistically what you're saying over here is like, no, we've actually specified the law, expanded on it and created more in order to say that you guys are completely wrong. Don't attach yourself to this, this thing then, this thing that is now, it's, it's pretty, I mean, the west is pretty much based on this. America is based on this. Even though the founding fathers were not Christians, they based it on Christian law and you know, the New Testament, which.
David Lee Corbo
I think though it's great.
Top Lobster
We were, it's what we were just talking about here as well, like for the idea of forgiveness. It's, it comes, the idea comes a lot easier for me because I, I guess I grew up in the church and I've been a Christian my whole life. And I understand that if you understand the story of Jesus Christ and what he did to forgive the world, if you believe that, then that concept is like deeply driven in your, in your being. So, like, I understand it fully. I, I, I'm not always the best at manifesting it, but I do get it. And there's a lot of other Religions there that just kind of like, they don't have that part. They don't have that last part, that selfless forgiveness. And I'm. I'm still horrible at it as somebody that, like, you know, should know better.
Donut
All over yourself.
David Lee Corbo
I mean, it's good to do that, though. You have to take stock. I think the second you stop asking yourself, like, am I doing the right. Am I moving in the right way? That's when you. You totally lose the plot. But it does strike me as interesting that it's called Judeo Christian values or whatever the case may be, but Judaism doesn't. It believes that Christianity is incorrect. Fundamentally incorrect.
Top Lobster
Yeah, that's what it is. Like, so the explanation from the Mishnah and, And the Talmud is explaining that Christianity is fundamentally incorrect. Fine. Just don't say Judeo Christian values afterward and act like you're attached to us because you're saying that we're wrong.
David Lee Corbo
It's like putting your arm around somebody and being like, me and this guy, we're together, he's wrong as. But we're not your homie.
Top Lobster
Not just wrong, but like, hey, like, like, we. If we believe that the Messiah did come and fulfilled the law of Moses, and, And this is like, we're moving in, we're moving forward, and one religion saying, we're still waiting. And I understand that that's a fundamental. It's a fundamental break in the, in the point here. But if all of your teachings are saying that we're. We are utterly and completely wrong. We worship a false God. We are like, basically, we're doing idolatry, which I've had the discussion with, like an IDF soldier recently. It's like, okay, fine, that's your opinion. That's not what I think. But then by no means say that these are the same two things. And that is the confusion. And that is like the, the lie, which it aggravates me because most of most of Christianity now you can go in and they'll fly an American flag right next to an Israeli flag. And, And I'm like, but I understand what you're saying, but what they're saying about you, they. They've said, oh, Judeo Christian values. And you say that on the pulpit. But when you look at what they're actually saying here, they're saying that you're completely wrong. So you're coming here every seven days. You're. You're worshiping, you're doing this and that. But the people that you're connected to are. They're saying that you're an. And I'm like, I don't like that. I just. For me, I don't like that. Like, if you said I'm an asshole. Right, Cool. But, like, don't do it. Sneaky. And. And I don't. Yes. It doesn't sit right with me, man. I don't know.
Donut
Well, that's why I think where I was coming from when I thought of.
David Lee Corbo
Hey, Donut, I hate to do this, man. Could you refresh the thing one more time? Because it is kicking your ass.
Donut
Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah. I. I mean, you know me. I'm not that well studied at all. But it. To that. That seems on its face, like, very surface level thinking. Just like, they don't agree with Christ being the Messiah. And so then how are these two things the same thing? How can you say them in the same breath? How can they be, like, conjoined one right after the other? Judeo, Christian, you know, then to.
Top Lobster
All right, what's up, Donut?
Donut
It's the Jews.
David Lee Corbo
There we go. That's exactly what it is.
Top Lobster
It's the donut donuts. Correct, though, when he's talking about the. The Torah and these. These first few books of the Bible, they're like, super important. They are pivotal to understanding Christianity. And, like, now that I'm back, like, reading back on them, I'm like, wow, these are like. Not that the New Testament's not important. That is, like, that is a characterization. It's not a character. It's a. It's a written history of what happened. But this back here is very important. It's just this thing in that comes afterward that I don't like. Like, I don't like the. It's not the Torah. It's a. It's a written book of rules by Pharisee and rabbi that are interpreting the Torah and how they should. How, you know, the Jews should carry themselves and live after the death of Jesus Christ. Well, it's fine. Listen, that's your religion. But it's two different religions. It's not the same thing. There's no hyphen. It's like Judeo. And then there is Christian. When they. When they conflate the two, it gets very confusing. Like Judeo in that manner. I mean, I'm talking about this new stuff. I'm not talking about the Torah. This is pivotal, absolutely pivotal to understanding. And even how I pray now, how I. When I talk to God, I. I think about how they did it back then. Like, how is David talking to God? How is Daniel Talking to God. Perhaps I should be thinking about these things also. Using Jesus Christ to talk with him in this way is. But there's a reason that they did that, and it's powerful. It's just like. It's that one. It's that diversion afterward that I'm like, I don't know what's going on here, but it smells like to me.
David Lee Corbo
I do love it, though. I do love that we're here in 2025. And it's like, if you think that the. This ex. You know, this existence isn't spiritual, if you think there's no God and all, it's like we're do. It's the exact same contention for 2, 000 years. It's the same thing. You know, it's. It's. We. We've come all this way. We have Snapchat. I don't know. It's crazy. We have Snapchat. We have an Oculus Rift. We've got VR on our heads. You know, we're taking the red dye out of. But we're still having the exact same.
Donut
Conversations and all that.
David Lee Corbo
It's crazy.
Donut
Years ago, it was the what I was gonna get to sort of with Exodus, because actually, so I'm on my spiritual journey again sober. Wow, there is a God. I'm learning about the. The values and the principles that are in the New Testament, the way Jesus lived his life, plus embracing, you know, my heritage of the Old Testament as well. But I've been always. And a bunch of different stuff like the. The nowaday tang and all. All that, you know, so I'm just learning about spirituality. Where am I gonna fall? And I was listening to Exodus. I went on this, like, Exodus. I got this book on it. It's way too long. I didn't finish it, but I did get something out of it where Moses, when they were escaping from the Pharaohs or whatever on Passover, and I even got into the whole astro theology of St. Passover, the Last Supper that's passing over into spring. So I, like, looked at everything in my journey to want to be close to God. And the Moses. The Moses was walking to the. The Dead Sea, where they split the sea open. Not saying that that really happened in life, but just the. The emotions that people were going through to get to the Dead Sea. I don't know if it was the Dead Sea, but where they split the sea, that was pretty much a suicide mission because you're going up against the ocean and all the soldiers will come and slaughter you. So this Exodus for them to do that. The Israelites, which. There was only two tribes that were Jewish. I believe that. That how to be a faith in God to even go there. And I love that. I took that sort of. In our conversation where there's fear, but there's also got to be action. And that. That whole faith part of, like, trusting God, like, I'm gonna go walk here and leave the results up to God, which was good too. Like, I. I like. I like it all. And there was.
Top Lobster
I was listening to freaking Fear not, right? Donut. This is. This is a whole thing. Yeah, it's like. It's. It's. It's why we call these people. It's why I call myself a dangerous. Or the idea of retardio. Return to God. To be retarded. To be retarded. To look at. Look at the fear. Yeah, I'm looking at this fear that should like. It's. It's a dragon. And it's telling me, yeah, I'm gonna burn. You don't walk through here. And I'm like, I'm gonna do. I'm gonna put my helmet on and I'm gonna do it anyway. As if there is no. As if there's no danger here. And obviously within reason.
David Lee Corbo
Right? That's how David was. And. And that's why he won, right, with the slingshot. Yeah. That's how we're meant to be. I don't think we're meant to be, even anecdotally, in my own experience, whenever I choose to do the thing in spite of the fear, it. It always. It changes the trajectory of my life for the better. Makes me better. You know what I mean? There's so many things that I could have said no to in life because it's scary. You know, even simple. It's like, you know how many people spend their entire lives in the same town that they grew up in, and they end up dying there? And. And those people, when you spend time with them, they'll say things like, I'd love to get out. I'd love to see the world. I'd love to move one day. I'd love to go here and pursue that and be that thing. But then so many of those people just grow old, and before you know what, they lift their head up and they realize that they're in the same Donut. Fear.
Top Lobster
That's a bang.
David Lee Corbo
I like that. That's actually a great chart.
Donut
So much knowledge out there, right? With the information age, Twitter, books, we can't. We. So much knowledge. But there's such lack of wisdom. And I think what we're talking about now, there's a lot of wisdom in that. It's not like smart, it's wise. And you know that I like, I like that and I like the whole, like the, the whole dangerous thing is. I love that. Yeah.
David Lee Corbo
You know, but it's. It is a way of. I, I think we did it first and then, and then it started to. And then it made sense to me later on. And I do think, like, to be a dangerous is to be, you know, the fool in the hero's journey who becomes the hero. Because, you know, it's like everybody calls you like Tim Pool told Top that he was too. And it's like, yeah, that's it. That's the spirit of it. It. The fool who goes on the hero's journey, by many people's accounts is too retarded to see the danger that lies ahead. And he's cautioned by all these people to stop, but he doesn't listen.
Top Lobster
Well, you're cautioned by people a lot of times to stop or people will say, don't do this thing. This is very dangerous. Don't associate. This is dangerous. And I go, maybe, But I pray every single day. Like, I'm like, if a door opens, that's fine. But Vin said the correct prayer is close the door, don't. But I tell him, like, slap me down. Don't let me do this thing if this is not the right way to go. But close the door if this is. If this isn't the right way to go. So I'm not going to listen to Tim Pool or people to tell me that, like, you should be afraid of this. I was like, maybe I should. Maybe you should. But I'm not getting that right now.
David Lee Corbo
Do you think that Tim Pool got to where you. There's an argument to talk about whether or not he's afraid now. I don't know. But do you think that Tim Pool got to where he is?
Donut
He was all squirrely, walking around the. The sides and I, I like and shout out, you know, to my homie Alex Stein. He brought me to the event and he even went on temple and gave me a shout out on the meme magic. And then they talk about me magic. But like, all I'm at this social media event, it feels like, you know, because, like, Laura Luba is there, Milo Yianopoulos is there to Pool's there, Luke Radowski's there. And I'm like, man, I want to start clicking their faces to see if they'll like, start talking, you know, I was cripping, but this was like a conservative type movement.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
Donut
And not one person knew who I was. And I'm just like, this is. And I felt very lonely. But I love Alex and I love Paige as well. Like, they're such great people. He even brought my name up on Temple. And that's like so name. But like, it was just tried to talk to them. Not all the people I had named. I didn't try to talk to all the people I named, but like, I try to talk to a few of like, dumb. And no one wanted anything to do with me. It was weird.
David Lee Corbo
I feel like people at that kind of an event because it's like a conservative political event, like they are kind of searching around for who they can connect themselves to, where they're going to get a banger of a Twitter photo or. Or they're going to get an opportunity in the future to do some political pontificating with, you know, some sort of big pundit.
Top Lobster
It's sad. If they knew. If they knew you're a YouTube following, they would go draw to you. But.
David Lee Corbo
Oh, yeah, they were like, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I. I don't know what I would do it. Oh, we're losing Donut again.
Top Lobster
Yeah, I know. This sucks.
David Lee Corbo
I feel so bad. I don't know why this is happening. Sorry, guys. Donut. I don't know if it's his issues or. Or it's our. I think it's his.
Top Lobster
He probably has, like, he might have to restart his browser completely, but. Yeah. So the first time I met Luke Rakowski was at a pork fest years ago, and he was doing the. I forgot what they called it. It's like the thousand year. Like the thousand yard media stair where he's just looking around for somebody famous to talk to. And I saw him, I was like, oh, hey, Luke. And he's just like, you know. And then he kind of did that to us the second time that we. Well, the second time I met him, but the first time we were on a show, then the third time we were on his show, he's like, hey, do you want to come to the gun range after? And we were like, I am busy.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
Top Lobster
You know what I mean? So it's like, it's. It's unfortunate. I don't really know.
David Lee Corbo
That's a lot of what people are doing. And I get it too. Right. I mean, of course I'm gonna get excited if we have an opportunity to do you know, something with a Tripoli or something like that? But for that to be the sole focus, you know, you're just kind of looking around for an opportunity to be seen with somebody. Like, I. I think I'm. I'm really grateful that that mechanism is broken within me. I don't really seem to get too wrapped up in people there.
Top Lobster
He's trying this phone. Let's see. Let's see if this works.
David Lee Corbo
Maybe the phone works better. Can you hear us, Donut?
Donut
Hello?
Top Lobster
Yes. All right. We got you. We got you.
David Lee Corbo
We were just saying how at that type of event, it strikes me as as much more likely that people are looking for, you know, the who's who and an opportunity, connections. When we go to when, you know, doing Bohemian Grove, I look at that as. You know, it's cool to put on a performance, and it's cool to. To even do that thing. But what's really cool to me is, like, oh, we could build a community. We can hang out with the homies. We can actually see each other in person. And instead of it being like this. I don't know, this kind of gross, like, who's here? Who can I get with and take a picture and. And boost my algorithm with.
Donut
Yeah, yeah. Nobody wanted to talk to me or hang out with me except for Alex. So it was. It was super weird. It was so weird. And they. They want to, like, go full Kanye, like you were saying, and give fellatio for that photo. Photo op.
David Lee Corbo
Yep. That's exactly how it goes, man.
Donut
I don't. I don't blame them.
David Lee Corbo
I've been there, how politics works, dude.
Top Lobster
How many times have we been around, like, famous people and then forget to take a picture? I'm like, oh, yeah, Yeah.
David Lee Corbo
I don't. I don't think about that at all.
Top Lobster
No one's gonna believe me that when.
David Lee Corbo
We were talking to you, you know, we were talking to Dave Smith one time, and, like, I could have been, you know, like, oh, it's Dave Smith. But instead, I was actually just very frustrated with him, and I was kind of yelling at him on the show because I wanted to know what Dave Smith thought of God. I don't care about, you know, individual. Not that I don't care about individuals. That sounds rude. It's more like, I just. I'm not starstruck by people. If. If. If you are famous. What I find fascinating is, like, oh, how's that dude's brain work?
Top Lobster
How big is that guy's head? Usually famous people, their head is super big.
David Lee Corbo
I got this going for me, they have this effect.
Top Lobster
It's the Michelangelo effect. You know, the. The statue of David, where its head is actually larger because it's supposed to be viewed from below. And I feel like famous people all have, like, a larger head for some reason. I think it has something to do with that.
David Lee Corbo
It's weird. Yeah. Yeah. They also super big foreheads. Big foreheads that maybe because they got.
Donut
A big brain, could be one of it, or maybe because, like, it's good on camera. The big head, you know, are there now.
David Lee Corbo
I contribute to why so many people on camera feel really big. Like. Like Clint and Sam both said to me that I have tall guy energy, which was just their way of being nice about how short I am. And. And I think it's probably because of one, the shouting. I do quite a bit of shouting, but. But two, the forehead. I think it gives the illusion that I'm gigantic because my forehead.
Donut
I got the Neanderthal forehead, too.
David Lee Corbo
Oh, baby. That's where we keep all that smile.
Donut
Yeah. That's the way we stay. Wicked spot. And Joe Rogan, he's. He's. He's a little person too, right?
David Lee Corbo
He is, yeah. I hear that. Well, I can't say anything about him. I think he's the exact same height as me because I used to Sam Tripley, as a unit of measurement. I took a photo with him. I looked at where I came up to Sandra, and then I looked up where Joe Rogan comes up to Sam Tripley. Virtually identical. It's the same exact thing. So I can't. I mean, I can talk about him being short, but I just got to make sure I do it to. Me, too.
Donut
Yeah. I have a conspiracy theory following the symbolism with Joe Rogan and the Danny Jones podcast. So Danny. Yeah, Danny Jones. His symbol is the same symbol as Joe Rogan because I'm always looking at symbols. Or he has the Sonpaku crazy eyes just like Joe Rogan, and he has the two Nazi lightning bolts just like Joe Rogan has for the ss. And what I think is going on, and I could be totally wrong, this is just my conspiracy, that Danny Jones is an arm of a Joe Rogan apparatus where he brings on guests. How's them perform on the checkerboard floor. And then he decides, okay, this one will be the next guest for the Joe Rogan show.
David Lee Corbo
Really?
Donut
That's my. My what? My theory is because I. A lot of my theories. I've been in this game of social media doing geopolitics for 10 years before I Even had my channel. And both. You probably see. Seen this, that when you are a content creator, you get different data than somebody who's consuming the content. So you could be like, oh, why am I getting a bunch of sales for food? Or why is a bunch of people. We can see the trend happening before the masses in a lot of ways. People in the comments asking a question, the same question keeps popping up. So we have a different. We get different data than the people that will consume the content.
David Lee Corbo
Can I ask you this? Do you think we've been kind of, you know, we say things and then we figure out if. If they make sense later on. And I've been saying that Rogan is like the new Laurel Canyon. And it seems like not only is he into cultural manufacturing, but he's also into pushing elements of like, the MK Ultra program, you know, like obviously the sensory deprivation tanks. That's right up your alley. And then of course, the, the DMT and all the psychedelics, and that plays into all the MK Ultra. And then recently with the pop popularization of the telepathy tapes, which was done almost exclusively by Rogan, launched him into the number one spot. I'm looking at this and I'm like, why are you, you know, you're, you're, you're promoting research that falls in line with like a Rupert Sheldrake or like a Puharij, like, all the way back at the beginnings of MK Ultra, you're also pushing, like the apparatus, you're popularizing the float tanks, like, and then you're manufacturing culture, and you found yourself sort of orbiting this new administration in a huge way. And I'm like, I think we are looking at the new Laurel Canyon.
Donut
Yeah, I think we're looking at the new Oprah Winfrey as well, who stayed in her home for three, two, two days. He, he's the mainstream. And this is just a fact that he's the most popular podcast, which literally definition is the most mainstream podcast. And he does shift the culture. And there's. As somebody who's been into conspiracies and all the occult symbols and all that for a while. When you go to the gym and you're in the sauna with the boys, you know, the. Yes. There's a difference between the Japanese sauna, because I was just a Japan, and an American sauna. Japanese, everybody's just straight. All the dudes are just wangs out. And in America, we're all like, shy, and we're like, no, we wear our clothes in the sauna. Like, I Go in the sauna with like my short, my shorts and shoes on.
David Lee Corbo
Swim shorts, 100. If I go into a sauna, I'm doing it in swim shorts. I mean, maybe I'll do it in a towel maybe, but like swim shorts just seems more functionally, you know, makes more sense.
Donut
Yeah, I got off topic. Oh. But when I'm in the sauna, they, I've heard all throughout it's always been a conversation of Joe Rogan and then Trump. And now I'm scared to go in the sauna now because I know I'm gonna, they're probably gonna kill me if I go into Savannah.
David Lee Corbo
Now is where Donut goes for her. Donut goes for his cultural updates to the sauna. And now he knows that if he goes to the sauna, he's gonna hear about the Jews because that's where the conversation has gone. Dude, I wouldn't be surprised.
Donut
I haven't gotten a haircut. I'm looking hella scrubby. Because the last time I went to get a haircut, the guy was like, yeah, you know about Europa, you know what's going on right now? And he's like cutting my hair and shaving me and I'm all like, oh, yeah, what's going on?
Top Lobster
Oh no. Donut, Donut. You gotta. Fear not, dude. Fear not, man.
Donut
I, I, I, I told him to subscribe to my channel. I wasn't sure I was joking, but I, I don't like to get, I don't know, I like, I got the mullet going and the hair.
David Lee Corbo
You're a long hair guy. In my opinion. You're a long hair guy. Only, only tall, tall dudes can pull off long hair like Ian Carroll. I can't pull off Ian Carroll's hair because I'm not 68 and I don't have the jawline. But yeah, you're, you, you should stick with the, with the long hair. You're a long hair dude.
Donut
Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, I gotta grow. I, I want to grow my passes out.
David Lee Corbo
But, but I, I asked you what.
Donut
You think about lean into it if I just dress like modest Yahoo. Yeah, you should do.
David Lee Corbo
That's how I've made myself and, and I got this from, from top. That's how I've made myself more resilient to any of the. Because as soon as you get out into the public discord on, on Twitter, you're going to be just, you're going to take all the effort arrows.
Top Lobster
Right?
David Lee Corbo
And in order to make myself not subjected to those or not not, you know, make those arrows, not fatal blows. I've just completely leaned into them and, and you know, I'll do all the. That you think I am. You know.
Donut
Certain topics. Have you noticed since we were talking about bots and like the ratios being weird how like you get 20 comments but over a hundred thousand likes and it just doesn't make sense? I see it all the time on YouTube videos, Twitter posts. Have you noticed that when you post about a certain topic, it could be a person, a group story, then you'll get the backlash. Like for me, if I talk about certain topics connected to Elon Musk, then I'll get all these weird posts of graphics that people make of how I'm like Illuminati or a woman or something like that. But it's only on Elon posts.
David Lee Corbo
No, I get those. I, I almost exclusively get them from Christians, which is fantastic. It's just Christian people speculating wildly about my, my role in misleading the flock or something like that. And then. Yeah, creating spreadsheets. I don't know. Spreadsheets. Creating graphics about. Just all kinds. Yeah, Like I've been. I'm a gender inverted elite. I have the skull of a woman and triangle.
Donut
They put the triangle on you?
David Lee Corbo
Yes. Yeah, I had the triangle put on me. And also I made the mistake of buying a $15 backdrop from Amazon that was. Looked like bricks, which to most people was just like, why does it look like you're doing something stand up? Because it looked like a stand up wall behind me. And the mic that I had was like, not a podcasting mic, but to the Christian community. I was a Freemason. And clearly because 15Amazon backdrop means that I'm initiated. So yeah, I don't, I don't get those if I talk to Elon. I just get those just constantly from some insane sect of the Christian community.
Donut
It's. It's wild because the breakthrough from the crowd and be able to just say F them and just do what you do. It takes a very strong, like a person to, to do something like that.
David Lee Corbo
It takes a retard.
Donut
Yeah, yeah, that too.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah. I've gotten to the point now where I'm like, you know, if you ask me what I am. If, if your definition of a Christian is somebody who believes in Jesus Christ, then, then by your definition, yes, I'm a Christian, but I don't even, like, I almost don't even want to have that conversation with people because it's. You suddenly step into a bag of worms and because I, I make A particular universe on Twitter or because I say, you know, a particular thing, all of a sudden I'm not. I'm not Christian, and I'm just like. But I still believe. All right, you know what? I don't even want to talk about it with you guys. I'd rather just lean into comedy. And that's almost the route that I'm by default, leaning towards because I don't want to have to defend myself and. And my beliefs. I don't want to have to try to convince you that I believe something when you're arguing that I don't believe in it, which is like, whose head do you. I live in my head. I know what I believe. So instead of doing that, I'm just going to ridicule you and make fun of you and then lean heavily on comedy because it makes my life feel a lot better. Instead of just dealing with all of the. The crazy people and then trying to address their. And trying to have dialogue with them when it doesn't work, they're for dialogue. They're there to burn you at the stake. And so there's no conversation.
Donut
Yeah.
David Lee Corbo
It's a setup. Yeah. You can't have a conversation with people.
Donut
Yeah. Yeah. I remember when I started, I had, like, some. It was very new ag chakra thing that was gifted to me. Every single thing that I have is, like a gift, and I just talk in front of it. Everyone's like, oh, that's a new age. And I was like, whoa. I didn't mean. I. I thought I was being offensive, so I removed it. I, like, was like, okay, that's offensive. Put something else up there. They got offended by that. And then I'm like, okay, this has nothing to do with anything but the mass mind control of the crowd wanting to. To dominate. So, like, I got the, like, the donut with the one eye. I didn't even make that. An artist made that. I. And a fan painted this. So all the symbols that, like people, they were, like, inspired, and they paint it. And so it's just. It's ridiculous.
David Lee Corbo
Can you find this. Find the image that. What's his name? Josue? Is that his name? Made for Dangerous? It's a banger artwork, but we didn't ask him to make it. But it's basically me topping our. And our co host, Clint Russell, and we're like, inside the firmament. And. And, you know, I'm peeking through the. For it's. It's from that old kind of.
Donut
Yeah, the alchemy thing where he's Looking out.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah. And. And I. I looked at it and I said, that is beautiful top. I've already found people posting that about. Look, look. See what he's doing. Look what they're doing. They're peeking through the firmament. They're.
Top Lobster
They're.
Donut
So.
David Lee Corbo
Yes, that's the one. Yeah.
Donut
That's super good. That's amazing.
David Lee Corbo
And. But, yeah, I mean, you know, somebody does artwork for you, and that now means you're part of the oto.
Donut
Well, I've. Ever since I was a kid, I always wanted to be black. Like, I always liked hip hop. I. The way I talk and all that. I used to get made fun of by all the white kids. So hopefully they're just throwing it out there. Just a little hint. Raven.
David Lee Corbo
Oh, my God. Oh, please. Your wish is my command. Absolutely. I gotta tell people my secret so they can carry on my work.
Donut
Work.
David Lee Corbo
Because it's really the work of a maniac. And. And I've realized now that I should probably stop. Not, not. Not because I'm worried of offending people, because I. I cannot answer the question, what am I doing? And I think if I can't answer that question, then I. Then I had better stop. But, yeah, Donut, you expect it.
Donut
Well, also, on the date, on the dangerous retard topic, I would praying and meditating about, like, I'm happy that the misfit is on my team. He's the dangerous retard on my team to go in the battle.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, he's the one that's gonna step in the front and take all the arrows. And he's definitely taking a lot of arrows right now, but we have to bring it in for a landing. We got stuff that we got to take care of. But one more time, Donut.
Donut
Where.
David Lee Corbo
Where can everybody find you? Where can everybody find your work? Because your work is. Before you even go, I just want to say, I look to see what you're doing, Donut. Like, if something is happening. And I go, what the hell is going on here?
Top Lobster
Strange is happening. And I go to Donut.
David Lee Corbo
I go to Donut, dude. And I go, help me make sense of this. And every time I go over to what you're doing, right? And especially in this Katy Perry situation, I know we didn't get to talk about it too much. I highly recommend people go and check down your breakdowns because you capture all the symbolism that's taking place in this event to the extent where, when you're shown these things like, hey, look at what she's doing. And then Here is the sort of esoteric context for it. You'd be very hard pressed to say that that's not what's happening here. You do a great job of laying that out. I want everybody to go and check out that, especially that video. Because that's what I saw where I was like, we gotta have Donut on. We gotta have them make sense of what the hell is going on in the world stage. So I just want to thank you for. For coming and hanging with us, brother.
Donut
I appreciate you. I do the same thing. I listen to y' all, like, every day. So I appreciate being up on here. And you can find me at D O E N U T. Donut. Yeah. Oh, and also, like I say, like, there is going to be a ritual, like every weekend. I'm like, there's a ritual, you know, so a dangerous like me can get something right once in a while. Because I always say that a ritual about to go down.
David Lee Corbo
You're never. You're not wrong, though. There's always something.
Donut
I'm not wrong.
David Lee Corbo
We said it earlier was like, after Covid, it was like, okay, go get them, boys. And they just started slamming us with psyop after psyop after ritual, after ceremony after ritual. So, I mean, good news for Donut. There's always something to make because there's always something happening.
Donut
True.
Top Lobster
Always something on the horizon. Donut, again, thank you. Thanks for spending time with us, man. I'm sorry. I feel like we. I mean, we're at almost two hours, but I gotta pick up my wife.
David Lee Corbo
Donut, are you gonna be at Bohemian Grove?
Donut
Yes.
Top Lobster
Make the decision now.
David Lee Corbo
Don't make the decision now. Guys, we're trying to get Donut to Bohemian Grove. So there's just another reason. Hey, listen, wherever you live and come to Bohemian Grove, if you can't make.
Top Lobster
It this time, there will, There will be another. If we're gonna keep doing these, God wills it.
David Lee Corbo
Yes.
Top Lobster
But thank you. Thanks. Oh, hell, yeah. All right, perfect, man. Hit me up later, guys. I gotta run. But anything else, David?
David Lee Corbo
No, that's it, dude. I think that's all we got.
Top Lobster
All right, man. Obey. Submit. Comply. We'll see you tomorrow. Peace out.
Donut
The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is.
David Lee Corbo
A oblong box in the corner of the room.
Donut
It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. You can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see. Because they'll act in the face of.
David Lee Corbo
An explanation that portrays the bigger picture.
Top Lobster
And they have.
Podcast Summary: Nephilim Death Squad - Episode 162: The Century-Long Ritual w/ DoeNut
Release Date: May 8, 2025
Hosts: Top Lobsta and Raven (David Lee Corbo)
Guest: Donut
In Episode 162 of Nephilim Death Squad, hosts Top Lobsta and Raven delve deep into the intricacies of long-standing rituals and their impact on modern society. Joined by guest Donut, the episode explores themes ranging from symbolic manipulation in media to the pervasive influence of transhumanism, all viewed through a Biblical and conspiratorial lens.
The discussion opens with Donut emphasizing the power of symbols in societal control:
Donut [00:55]: "The imprinting goes into the autonomic nervous system on a cellular level, which is different than brainwashing."
He references the concept that symbols, when deeply ingrained, can subtly manipulate public perception and behavior. The hosts agree that everyday symbols, like the Star of David or religious icons, carry immense power beyond their apparent meanings.
Donut [07:44]: "There's nothing evil with a symbol, but through the imprinting of your tribe, of your nation, of your favorite football team or sports star, whatnot."
This section underscores the idea that symbols are not inherently malicious but become tools for control when exploited by those in power.
A significant portion of the conversation centers on the interplay between transhumanism and ancient rituals. Donut posits that modern transhumanist movements are extensions of age-old rituals aimed at societal control and transformation.
Donut [16:10]: "These rituals, they take place not just in one year long span, but even longer. It could be a whole century-long ritual going on."
The hosts discuss various global events, such as the Submersible explosion and the Super Bowl, interpreting them as modern manifestations of ritualistic ceremonies designed to shift cultural directions and prepare society for a new era of transhuman existence.
David Lee Corbo [15:43]: "It's a big continuation of a ritual and we don't really understand the ways that it affects us."
The conversation shifts to the role of media influencers like Joe Rogan and Elon Musk in perpetuating control through popular platforms. Donut and the hosts argue that these figures play pivotal roles in shaping public discourse and accelerating societal shifts aligned with hidden agendas.
Donut [93:13]: "I'm scared to go in the sauna now because I know I'm gonna hear about the Jews because that's where the conversation has gone."
They explore how platforms like Twitter and YouTube are manipulated to promote specific narratives, often sidelining deeper, more nuanced discussions about powerful institutions like the Knights of Malta or the Jesuit Order.
David Lee Corbo [41:13]: "There's a grooming of the conversation by the Twitter algorithm, and the people that are taking part in it are not the people that are talking about the Jesuits or the Knights of Malta."
A substantial debate unfolds around Judeo-Christian values and their conflation in modern society. The hosts scrutinize the historical and theological divergences between Judaism and Christianity, arguing that pairing them under a single banner creates confusion and misrepresentation of foundational beliefs.
Top Lobster [72:19]: "Don't attach yourself to this, this thing then, this thing that is now, it's, it's pretty... it smells like to me."
Donut adds depth by discussing the influence of Rabbinic law and its evolution post-Jesus, highlighting the tensions and conflicts that arise when these two faiths are inaccurately merged in cultural discussions.
Top Lobster [71:07]: "This back here is very important. It's just this thing in that comes afterward that I don't like... it's pretty... it smells like to me."
The hosts delve into the psychological effects of social media algorithms, emphasizing how platforms like Twitter amplify fear-based narratives. They discuss personal experiences with online harassment and the broader societal implications of algorithm-driven content promotion.
David Lee Corbo [44:57]: "It allows me to do all kinds of things, and you put me to the front of the line."
Donut echoes these sentiments, explaining how algorithmic favoritism towards certain narratives (e.g., anti-Semitic content) marginalizes more complex discussions, effectively controlling the public discourse.
Donut [95:49]: "It's all like order out of chaos. But the thing that they don't tell you is they sew the chaos first, and then they wait for an opportunity to create order out of it."
Throughout the episode, personal anecdotes highlight the challenges of navigating conspiratorial beliefs within mainstream society. Donut shares his journey towards sobriety and spiritual awakening, linking personal transformation to broader societal shifts.
Donut [68:21]: "All the things that I'm talking about on here are always being represented as deep things and sacred things... but they're just being used to control the mind."
The conversation also touches on attempts to build communities resistant to mainstream narratives, emphasizing the importance of spiritual resilience and love as antidotes to fear-driven control.
Donut [61:33]: "Being in sobriety... there's a solution to all that and a lot of it is love and praying for people."
As the episode wraps up, the hosts and Donut reflect on the relentless march of rituals and control mechanisms embedded within societal structures. They advocate for awareness, community solidarity, and spiritual grounding as means to resist and navigate the century-long rituals shaping modern existence.
Donut [101:24]: "There is going to be a ritual, like every weekend. I'm like, there's a ritual, you know, so a dangerous like me can get something right once in a while."
The episode ends on a note of continued vigilance and the perpetual quest for understanding the hidden forces at play in shaping human consciousness and societal direction.
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