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Okay, so listen to this. Thank you, Shane. Shane is always very supportive over there in the YouTube chat room. Says great show, Frank. Well, thank you, Shane. And I would like to also say that Shane contributed to A wonderful piece of merchandise that is now available on the merchandise store. And that is the Goodfellas shirt. But with me and Matt. Thank you for that, Shane. And Shane also. We have it ready to go for October. We have a, a fall and autumn shirt that Shane designed. Really, really great. I can't wait to own and wear that one. Shane's the man. I really appreciate him, Truly appreciate him. Let me see. All right, so take a listen to this. I know that we've done the topic of dead Internet theory before, but it's, it's coming up again. And since we're talking about astroturfing things, we're talking about people misremembering things and now the AI element that is so much more prevalent. It was artificial intelligence, was part of the base theory about what all, where this all came to be and when the Internet became a lot less organic. Now what I would say is that there's a lot of great input here about just what is happening to people as the Internet changes. For example, if you go back to, you know, the early 2000s, before the teens began, everybody is mainly just on their favorite websites. They're on their favorite websites. You know, it's maybe they have AOL. After the mid to late 90s though, AOL was something a little bit less. I don't, you know, early 2000s when people just started saying, you know what, I don't need AOL anymore. I've got what we've got. You get, your Internet service provider is coming right from cable at that point and you don't need dial up anymore. And everybody's going to cable and DSL and stuff like that. And we're, you know, you're just using Internet and we, you know, we kept our Instant messenger, everybody kept aim, but less and less people are actually signing on to AOL and paying for the monthly service. And then came, and then came the, the apps, then came the social media services that you don't pay for. But it shifted everybody off of the Internet that was largely text based. You're going to different way, you're learning, you're launching sites, everybody, that is where everybody was. And then everything had everybody's Internet experience really started taking place on little fishbowls, massive amounts of users, but still little fishbowls compared to how much more of the Internet we were using to have to go and get this information, that information to post all over the place. So there's something to be said about that. And once you get people into tiny little fishbowls, it's a very, very easy thing to take away critical thinking and when you start introducing new features like we'll get around to right now. Take a listen to this. The op on this forum post that's talking about Dead Internet theory, which is what they with what they believe really came to be back around 2016 or early 2017. This is where they've got it. Take a Look at this. OK. Roughly in 2016 or 2017. I'm absolutely certain this was some AI of sorts. You're thinking of where I am too. Anon here's the timeline as best I can see it. 2004 DARPA's lifelog project was canceled and Facebook came into being soon afterwards. 2004-12 NSA picks up on DARPA's project under the Total Information Awareness Project. 2012 Smith Mundt Modernization act gives the US government full legal authority to use propaganda against its own populace. Undoing rules put into place after Operation Mockingbird's discovery and the church committee. 2012-16 Shit. Tons of DARPA NSA contracts were given to Google, Facebook, Amazon, etc. 2016 Leaked memos dating back to 2016 found in 2018 of Google's Selfish Ledger project. 2016 Google released a bunch of neuro linguistic machine learning programs. 2017 deep fake leaks started to become released. You remember that every day it was deep fake this, deep fake that. In 2017 we thought that this was just a precursor for us getting some, you know, Hillary Clinton insurance folder stuff. Epstein related, you know, blackmail material. We said, oh listen, they're trying to talk about deepfakes because they're trying to prepare us for some horrendous stuff that's coming out. And of course, blue balls on that one too. 2018 confirmed that for decades, Reddit, YouTube, etc. Vote and view counts are fake and completely manipulated. This was on New York Mag. Ok, so what we're talking about how much of the Internet is fake? Turns out a lot of it actually. This is from December 26, 2018. Going into how. Let's see. Studies generally suggest that year after year, less than 60% of web traffic is human. Less than 60%. All right, this is nearly 10 years ago. Some years. According to some researchers, a healthy majority of it is bot for a period of time. In 2013, the Times reported this year, a full half of YouTube traffic was bots masquerading as people, a portion so high that employees feared an inflection point, after which YouTube systems for detecting fraudulent traffic would begin to regard bot traffic as real and human traffic as fake. They call this hypothetical event the inversion. Ok, so that's why you have no clue when you guys leave comments. You know, comments is not always the best test of human interaction. But I love when I get emails from people and I, I express my gratitude to people as well too because it's just, you just never know. When I get word from people out there, say, hey, I met a fellow, frankly in a barbershop or at a bar somewhere or at some kind of get together in another state far away, that stuff is the best kind of metric I know because who the hell knows? And what does all the fake metrics do? They definitely give legitimacy to something. We are the type of creatures that when we see a crowd, we want to be a part of the crowd. You know, we're, we're like moth to a flame. You know, if it's a very large stream that's going on, sometimes, you know, curiosity gets the best of you. You at least want to peek in to see what people are talking about. And perhaps you think everybody on the stream is an absolute, but it doesn't matter. You're getting a little bit more of an insight into what a large group of people are being roped in by. How large actually is it it. And how much influence do those types of numbers really have on people's perception of anything or any topic, any issue? Because the larger the numbers, the more authoritative it seems. It's psychological. It's psychological. That's the whole point of astroturfing on the Internet or anywhere, just to completely steamroll somebody with one point of view, making it seem like it is widely accepted. And this is, this is the future. So that's a little bit of the, the timeline. But this guy goes on to say, I blame Facebook and Twitter for what's going on. Listen to this. Then we'll take some calls in a little bit. The Internet is a fast way to get info and info is what moves the mind. And the thing is, the mind likes recognition. When the likes, the likes were introduced without negative feedback, they created a copy feedback subconscious. They made it so only positive opinions will be propagated. Also accepted and in its way negative opinions to be obsolete on YouTube. They stopped doing that when they got rid of the five star system. And they got rid of the star system because of, well, it all. It started because of Amy Schumer. In fact, there's still probably a handful of you out there who started watching this channel because of my Amy Schumer jokes that popped off after that terrible Netflix. No, Netflix got Rid of it. Netflix got rid of this five star system because of Amy Schumer and how badly people hated it. Okay, they said it had nothing to do with it, but we all, we all know what was going on. And then YouTube very shortly after that, maybe within a couple of years they got rid of the download, the, the down phone, but the down vote button, that you can still downvote it, but nobody sees how much is disliked. And I haven't, I haven't seen anything even of my own. I mean, you can go, if you want to go see what is disliked, you can go and into the back end of your account and take a look at it. But they buried it so good that I haven't even seen it in years. I just pretend that everybody likes everything, which of course you do. So here's the other thing. Now everyone is too cowardly says to have an opinion, so they copy others that they like. I wouldn't say this is for everybody, but it is part of herd mentality and it does rub off on people. The fast feedback system of the net created a human obsession to be in with trends. Getting away from it makes you, makes it so that you always feel like you're missing out. To play it safe in a trend is more easy than to copy what is already accepted. Yeah, well, anyway, the creation of original content is how the Internet used to work. Anonymous people were willing to express their opinions and try radical or experimental things more. Truly original content influenced by bots or paid influencers was created due to anonymity as protection against negative feedback. In an old Internet you can start anew every time you posted something. Now add bots to all of that stuff so that, that is just like a little bit of the psychological aspect of what the liking the way that you like or you respond to something, the feedback you're able to give, the way that you're able to maintain your anonymity. Every time there's some kind of a controversy that, that starts on the Internet, always somebody's gonna show up and say we need a way to be able to verify people's identity. If you're gonna put your, your thoughts out there, especially if they're naughty thoughts, then you should have to own whatever the hell you say. It's, you know, you start seeing how, how the prescriptions continue to be the same and same thing. But here's the, the crazy thing. Google, he goes on to say, I believe Google is one of those companies that makes bots. After all, they work like a search engine where they get Most accepted content first. The same as doing an ad. And they go into this, they go into this company from years ago. They're talking about. This is 2011. They know that they've been doing this since 2010 at least. Here's the young Turks talking about in September of 2011 about a startup known as Narrative Science. How it's designed a program that writes human like stories. Right now it's used for sports articles, but it'll eventually be used to write news and politics stories. Or will it be used for news and politics as well? Well, Narrative Science, several investors, including in Q Tel of course, that is the investment arm of the CIA. The CIA we know at least through this one company. I'm sure that people like Jason Burmas and others can point to many other instances. But the CIA owns software that creates narratives and writes the news. This has been happening since at least 2010. So when you say dead Internet, I think that mainly it's not that Internet users are going away. I mean the only way that an inter. A human being is not going to be using the Internet anymore is if they're dead. That's just the way the world is right now. And I think more people than ever are using the Internet. But the question is that, and I know some people say that the dead Internet theory is really just the result of the third world gaining access to the Internet. How much? How much? That has just destroyed so much. I mean you think about all the spam that comes out of India and everything else and you know, a lot of those, those Asian countries and whatever. What do you think about that? There's just so much more out there and it's not like it was in the 90s. It just wasn't. So I don't think that people are leaving. You're definitely contending with a massive amount of non human origin content. But it is, it's mainly that there are, there are a lot of programs being run against us that people don't understand that are trying to shift perception on any number of things and influence human behavior to mainly sell narratives. We talked about that when it. As it pertains to not necessarily auto artificial intelligence and how the stock market works, but these feedback loops of how the stock market is really just propagated on automated systems that can be found in the dis. In the. The forum. Oh, I'm sorry, the, the old blog we were talking about. What the hell was it? Mind war. I think we were talking about mind war and Michael Aquino know it's all in there. So you think about. You just think about that. And the fact that the Internet has really shrunk to apps and people are just hanging out on apps. They're not even really going to a lot of websites anymore. There's a lot. There's a lot. But I. I don't now the whole idea of Internet deletion. What do you guys think? How much stuff is getting deleted? How much stuff is getting purged? Because I know there's a lot of stuff that I look for from the old Internet that is just not there anymore. And it could just be for the sake that there's a lot of websites have shut down over the years. If, you know, as you're looking back in the Wayback Machine, maybe you can find something there. But let's go to some super chats right now, see what everybody's talking about. Ron Oswald says NDS is always fun. Great show, Frank. Thank you, Ron. Larry Whitaker says you got to do some live events near Dallas. I'd like to come out there to Texas. That would be awesome. Joe Martinez. Thank you. My friend, Kobe Shumway. I need to learn about the future of space. Put me in. You got it. The future of space as. As predicted from 1977. The big reason why I love these things, no matter what the subject matter is, is that you get to go in and fact check what they were saying the future was going to be like. And sometimes you find some really interesting shit. Sometimes some things come true. And sometimes you have a little bit more, you know, hindsight being 20 20, you have a little bit more hindsight as to what maybe the ulterior motives could have been for one project, one program or another to be started. I think that these are great finds. And whenever, you know, Sherry comes by and. And drops a bunch of these on my desk, I'm like, okay, well, I'm going to thumb through this thing and then I want to give it away because I want to see what somebody else finds with their discernment, their. Their own discernment as their guide. Jay Brits says lobster and Raven fit right in around here. Lots of fun. Thanks, Frank. Thank you, Jay. And then Crestmont Bear says, I just purchased my flight for the jamboree. Next is the hotel. I'll see your black ass in September. Yes, you will. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Okay, let's see. Over on Rumble, John Otter is a poo poo head. Wow. What's John doing, Jay? Semo says I'll take a shot on tonight's raffle. Thank You. Tommy Jekyll says I'll bite. Let me get a. Let me put the. The number up. I need people to call in so I can start entering all of these names into the. The. The name picker. Tommy says I'll bite two on a raffle chance. But please no Taylor Swift material at any time. That's tomorrow. That's tomorrow. And remember anytime you win something, if you win and you say hey listen I would just like that one thing and you can you know pay the other thing forward, you let me know. But that's Flip City. It's not going to be a flattering center centerfold for Taylor Swift. Whatever it is. That's Flip City. This is some, some good old fashioned kind of magazine entertainment that is done right now. It's one of the. That's why they call themselves America's last laugh. So I think you like it. Tommy. J.D. mool says great show as always. John Otter is forgiven. What. What happened? I'm not even ask chat room stuff. I just can't. I just wish people could just sit back kick kick their, their feet back and just watch the show. Apparently everybody just goes to war with each other and sometimes with me, but whatever. Okay. Over on Pilled Delona, thank you so much. Matt from. Matt from Pilled is just giving out a whole bunch of bronze tier subscriptions. This is what I'm talking about. Everybody every once in a while just pop into the pill chat room there and you can, you'll probably be able to claim a subscription and that gets you all of the perks of membership as a quite frankly sponsor for as long as the subscription lasts and then you get the taste test what a monthly sponsor gets for as little as $5 a month. So thank you Matt for your generosity. Sir. Rosie Rose, she claimed a one month subscription. Valhalla claimed one too. Woot got one. And Amethyst cat and, and safety net 820. Just gifted the cookie to me. A group hug. Well thank you so much. Okay. 914-200-269 what do you think has happened to the Internet in. In respect to the people that are on it? The information that you get. The way things were, the way things are now. We're no stranger to dead Internet theory but because the AI keeps popping up and we're talking about kind of you know, cryptid level disinformation of what's happening and the new types of videos and the way the information of that, that caliber is spread around, it's, it's, it's good to come back around to this. It is. Other than that, you can call in if you've ever seen one of those black tentacle faced rabbits out there. Those poor little things, man. Those poor little things. If you have a Mandela effect that you've been talking about with people for a long time, if you've actually seen the, the, the David statue in person and you can say no, no, there were no divots in those pupils or yes, in fact they were always there and people are going nuts. You let me know about that as well. There's more. There's a little bit more, especially on this pig zombie. You want to talk about the, the, the rabbit that's had some issues? What do you guys think about this stuff? Because it scares the hell out of me. It's going back to a 2022 Yale experiment wherein scientists brought a dead pig back to life an hour after it heart stopped. They restored blood flow, cell function without a heartbeat, brain activity, or life support. If that sounds impossible, wait till you see how they did it. The pig was clinically dead. No heartbeat, circulation, or breathing. It stayed that way for a full hour, long enough for massive tissue damage. But then they plugged it into a machine that did the unthinkable. So what was this special machine? It's called Organ X. It's a perfusion system that pushes a custom synthetic fluid through the veins of a dead body. And those fluids contain oxygen, nutrients, anti inflammatories, and drugs that block cell death. And it worked without needing the heart to beat. So blood began circulating again. Cells started taking on in oxygen. Kidneys, livers, even heart began functioning again. The heart showed spontaneous contractions, even though the pig was technically still dead. This begs the question, how is this even possible? For decades, we believe that that death was a cliff. The heart stops, oxygen stops, cells die. That's the end. However, this study suggests that death is more than a slow unraveling. And if you act fast enough, you can interrupt that process. But the question is. Actually it's not a question. The statement is no matter what they're talking about here, they're keeping tissue alive. The pig is not. Wait a second. The pig's not alive though. Not conscious. So again, I'm just wondering if all of this is just really about preserving tissue. Because once that cord is cut and the soul is no longer there, then what the hell are we talking about? The results were insane. Compared to the pig's treatment with traditional ECMO life support, the Organ X pigs showed better organ structure, less inflammation, less hemorrhaging far less cell death. They were recovering. And here's the crazier part. Organ X were found to have fewer signs of hemorrhage cell death, but they did not see the same contraction in samples from ECMO Group. This wasn't Yale's first resurrection rodeo. In 2019, the same team used a different system, Brain X, to revive pig's brain four hours after death. They restored oxygen flow and cellular activity in the brain. No consciousness, though. But neurons began firing again. No consciousness. That's the thing. That's the only footprint, you know, that's the only footnote that you need to know about all this stuff. No consciousness. They're just keeping tissue alive and tissue recovering. So how is this used other than some sort of a. A way for people to recover parts from people? Do you see this in any other way that would actually be life saving for people who haven't blanked out? 914-200-269. You give me a call. That's one last thing I wanted to put out there because, you know, it's a night of weird news, a night of weird topics, and I want your imagination to kick some things around with me. Oh, we just had a couple of calls, and they just bleed. Leaped away. Sorry I missed them. Call me back. All right, in the meantime, let's see. Get that out of the way. Get this out of the way. We already talked about that. Good. So then what was the. Okay, yeah, I have to get the name finder up, and I'll wait for you guys. Here we go. Who's this?
