Dr. Jerry Marzinski (139:22)
Okay, so here. This is. This is the transcript. It says, inmate comes to the unit from another prison unit with a diagnosis of psychosis. When I called him in, he appeared to be nervous. It was clear that life had been beating him down. And he looked haggard. He was thin and hesitant to speak. I asked if he was on psych meds. He said he was, but it was a place to start. Let me see. He said, he, he. He admitted. He admitted to that. I said, do you hear voices? He said, yeah, there was a guarded. He said there was a guarded response of no. So I could tell that he was. He was not telling the truth and he was progressively getting more nervous. I said, it says on your record that you did hear them. At what time? At one time. I said, when did they start? He said, when I was 13. I asked, did they start suddenly? He said, pretty much. So they asked, how did they start off? And it was obvious that nobody up to now had spent much time trying to find out what his world was like. And he used up a little bit, lowered his guard just a little when I started talking to him so that after all, we were talking about the past and he knew I had his record. So he said, they started off telling me to do little things. Did they eventually work up to telling you to do bigger things? He said, yes, said, what were the things they were. They worked up to telling you to do? He said, well, mostly they told me that other people were going to hurt me and to watch out for other guys. So they start telling them stuff like that to increase the paranoia. The more negative emotion they can generate, the more food they have. Which is why they're constantly telling these people, you're no good, you're rotten, you're stupid, you're ugly, nobody likes you, your parents are stabbing you in your back, your wife's are cheating on you. It's all negative stuff. It's nothing positive. So when they get them upset, they generate that negative emotional energy which is called loosh. And that's what they feed off of. So that's why they are consistently negative. You know, they have a purpose for that. Okay. They told me other people were going to hurt me. I said, what did they do if you ignored them? He said, they got louder. And that's what psychiatry tells them to do. Their hallucinations, just ignore them. They're not real. Every patient I've talked to who tried to ignore them, they said the voices got louder and more angry. So psychiatrists have no idea what these voices are. They believe they're hallucinations. They're the chief symptom of paranoid schizophrenia. And they haven't done one iota of research on them at all. They just wrote them off. Oh, they're hallucinations. That's what they are. Because we said so. There's no research at all done on them. You know, if they did research on them, they'd see. They ran patterns. So he said, if I kept ignoring them, they got angry. They have not ever gone away for any length of time since they first came. They constantly bother me. I tried to kill myself two times. I asked him, how did you try to kill yourself and what happened? He said, both times I tried to hang myself. One time I went way out in the middle of the deep woods about a mile from the nearest road and hung a rope around a tree. There was no one around. I put the rope around my neck and was hanging when a hunter appeared out of nowhere and cut me down. This happened to a lot of people. You know, some miraculous thing happens to them that stops them from killing themselves. I mean, the chances of somebody finding him at that particular moment were virtually nil. I said, what did you think about the timing of that incident? He said, it was a miracle. I said, did you. Did you get the feeling that someone or something was watching out for you? He said, yes. I said, who? He said, God. I said, do you believe in God? He said, yes. Did you make any other suicide attempts? Yes. What happened? He said, I tried to hang myself in the garage. What did you hang yourself with? He said, a nylon rope. Said, what happened? He said the rope broke twice. Was it a thick rope? Said, no, it was a regular thickness rope, but it was old. Said, have you ever been sent to a psych hospital? He said, yeah, twice. I said, are the voices. The voices there now? He said, sometimes, but the medicine keeps them down. So that's what the drugs do. They'll weaken the voices because they're major tranquilizers and they calm them down. You know, if they're. That's not what the voices want. They want them upset and paranoid so they can feed off of that negative emotional energy. These psych drugs turn them into zombies and calm them down so the voices start losing strength because they don't have food. I said, can you tell the difference between these voices and your own thoughts? He said, yes. I said, who are they? He said, voices. I said, do the medications the psychiatrist giving you, giving you weaken them? He said, yes. I said, are they still there? He said, yes. Then they come as thoughts and not as voices outside of me when I take the medication. Okay, so what I've seen is when the voices feel they really have control of the individual, you know, and there's. There's no longer any doubt that they have control, they move outside of their heads and speak to them from a locust, like a foot out, like outside of their head, and that's really spooky. It's at that point that the patient realizes it can't be them because now they're hearing it outside, and that upsets them even more. I asked him, I said, can you tell the difference between them and your own thoughts? And he says. He says, it's confusing. I said, what do they tell you? And what do they tell you when you're on your meds and they are not coming from outside of your head? So they tell me that people are out to get me and that those people want to hurt me. I said, and when you are off your meds and you listen to what they are telling you to do, how do they behave when you do something they tell you to do and you got in trouble for it? He said, they laugh at me. They tell me I'm stupid. They like it. I wrote that. This is real common with schizophrenics. The voices tell them to do something stupid. They get in trouble for it, and then the voices laugh at them and mock them. There's one guy where they told the patient that if you gouge out your eye, we will disappear and we won't come back. The guy gouged out his eye. As soon as he did that, the voices showed up, started mocking him and laughing at him and saying, look how stupid you are now. You're a freak. Nobody will like you. Nobody want to be around you. You're ugly as hell, you know? And they just started laughing and mocking him. So that's what these things are like. All right? And I. I asked him, they started mocking you for what they started, what they told you to do in the first place? And he said, yeah. I said, and what do you think these voices are? Or who do you think they are? He says, I don't know. Said, what is your gut feeling about what you think they are? And he answers, demons. So that's kind of, you know, when I was exploring, what are these things saying? How do they react? How do they behave? What do they do when you do this? What do you do? What do they do when you do that? What do they do when you go to church? What did they do when you're off your meds? What did they do when you're on your meds? I mean, this is research that freaking psychiatry should have carried out decades ago. You know, they will see if they go looking into this, they will see that these voices run very clear, repeatable, specific patterns. And if they're running patterns, they can't be hallucinations like the psychiatric mafia says they are.
