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210: Designed to Heal: Faith, Physiology & Freedom w/ Dr. Ben Rall
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When “Designed to Heal” chiropractor Dr. Ben Rall joins Nephilim Death Squad, we go straight at the modern health machine—Ozempic/GLP-1s, the obesity crisis, mRNA era lessons, “self-spreading” vaccine ideas, Lyme, and why faith + physiology still...
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We are being hypnotized by people like this. Newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely enormous.
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Oh, yeah, dude, this is not.
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It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying shit. What happened to the home of the brave slaves?
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And everybody's just walking around.
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Welcome to the end of day.
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Everybody is slave.
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Only some are aware that the government releasing poisoning. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA The Raven. That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.
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How old am I dabbing?
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Oh, God.
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Disgusting. Before we get into today's guest, a little reminder. Sometime around the 30 minute mark, we're gonna go live exclusively to patreon.com forward slash, Nephilim Death Squad. You can continue enjoying this show, engaging in the live chat, gaining early access to episodes before they release, early access to Bohemian Grove tickets when they're dropped, and a little discount code off of merchandise.
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I did it.
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You did it.
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I did it.
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Unbelievable. I was so embarrassed for you.
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It's right here. Yeah, if you. You guys can cl.
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I did it.
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It's been months, but it's there.
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He's gotta slice and dice up your food, man.
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He's got an egg sitting in the top of his. His hat. That's where they hide him. Did you know that? That's when they did that. All right, guys, top lobster dot com. Like I said, merch discount codes at patreon.com forward slash nephilim descot. Joining us today, doctor. That's right, guys. We pull a doctor. That's how big of a deal we are. Round of applause for us, Dr. Ben Raw. Dr. Ben Raw. Before we get into the conversation, let's talk a little bit about where they can find you and what it is that you do.
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Yeah, well, thanks for having. You guys are awesome. This is. This is going to be fun. You know, it's funny you say a doctor. I have to. So I'm a chiropractor, so that right there is always a good for. For the butt of many jokes. So I'm not a real doctor, of course. Right. I'm a. I'm a pretend doctor. But I, I always laugh. People, the people that are always skeptical, they probably aren't listeners to your guys's shows. So we probably have the right audience here. But your best way to follow me is my website is drbeneral.com I do have a clinic in Orlando, Florida. I also have a podcast called Designed to Heal. And the Design to Heal podcast is a. Is a great way if you're looking for some of the things we're going to be talking about today. My other website has just some information about books I've written and some of the work that we do. But, yeah, excited to be here, guys.
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I might have to come out and visit you out in Orlando. I know this is a little bit of an aside, but my wife, she was a. My wife, My wife, she's a massage therapist for many years. She went to Cortev and got, you know, license to do that, and it honestly destroyed her body. We're blessed to have her out of that field now, but she's in so much pain every single day. And I'm like, I'm at a loss. I don't know what to do.
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Because you got to put her down.
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I think I got to put her down. Yeah. Well, first I have to build a shed, and then I have to pull her behind it and do the whole thing. But, you know, it's. It's brutal because you're back. Once you. Once you screw up your back in a big way, it's like the command center. You know what I mean? So everything comes from there. And. And she's in so much pain that I. She feels like a burden because she talks about it every day. And I feel terrible. I don't know what to do. So who knows maybe we'll end up meeting in person soon.
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Happy to help for sure.
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That would be awesome. So we were talking a little bit before the show and, and Top was telling me about the nature of what you do and this, this kind of concept that we touched on about the body's ability to heal itself. And I know that's going to be, you know, kind of what we're going to end up talking about today. But I got to, and I hope you don't mind. Right before we started the show, we touched on something very briefly and it was this idea of Ozempic. And I know that we're. I really kind of want to jump straight into it because I know that we're, we're setting out to talk about a much larger topic, but we haven't really discussed Ozempic on the show. Ozempic being this weight loss miracle pill, right? Miracle. That mean that's how they're kind of pitching it. That is. I saw somebody say that the, that America, it has been saved by Ozempic. That was either the tweet or the article title. And it's because we've been facing an obesity epidemic for so long here in the West. I can kind of see how you might say that sort of thing.
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Oh yeah, people have been put in the situation of like, I know a couple people that are on Ozempic or something like it, but they put, they haven't been put and they've put themselves in a situation where they kind of have to do this now they have so many other debilitating factors that don't allow them to exercise or live healthy otherwise. And they like reject healthy food but they just can't eat it.
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You ever see people where it's like, I don't know if it's my strange addiction or my like 600 pound life, but I remember one in particular where this woman started gagging at vegetables. And I've never wanted to. And this is a Christian show. I've never wanted to assault somebody. So much more in my life than watching that woman gag at the prospect of broccoli. So, yeah, I mean, we have been in the throes of an obesity epidemic. Is, is Ozempic here to, to save us, Dr. Raw, or should we, should we be skeptical?
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Yeah, man, you guys are like throwing me the softball now. I know this is a Christian show, but like, I, I tend to get pretty angry about these things and, and I appreciate you guys asking these questions. I think Ozempic is like the perfect. It's real but it's almost a metaphor for everything that's wrong with healthcare. Okay? And what I mean by this is so. So just for starters, so the reason we were laughing a little bit is I saw an article the other day that they're going to now have Ozempic for dogs. Okay? Right. You know, truth is stranger than fiction. And you go, what in the heck is going on that we're doing this all right now? And you're right. Here's what. The way it gets positioned is so important, I'm going to throw some kind of some facts at you. So right now, Ozempic a lawsuit, a class action lawsuit has been filed against Ozempic for $2 billion. Okay? This is the classic thing of healthcare, right? We could go through Vioxx, we could go through opioids, we could go through thalidomide, we could go through Dexatrim. I don't know how old you guys are, but Dexatrim, right, the diet pills, right, that ate people's heart valves, right? So all of a sudden there's all these people that have. So. So I'm going to tell you some of the things in the published literature of Ozempic that they admit to increase. Increased thyroid cancer, pancreatic cancer, bone loss, stomach gets paralyzed. It only works when you're taking it. The minute you get off of it, you gain everything back. It's liver, it destroys your liver, it messes up your liver enzymes, it destroys your bones because it robs from your bones, it eats up your muscle mass. That's why they call it like a skeleton face, they say, because it literally is eating away. It's the stupidest freaking thing we've ever done. And it's being billed, like you guys said, not you guys, but like, as it's saving us and the obesity. Here's one for you. The obesity, like you talked about, you know, the United States, we certainly lead the way in that September is Childhood Obesity Month. We're also lead in childhood obesity. And the American association of Pediatrics, which I detest, has said that the first line of defense for childhood obesity should be Ozempic. A first line of defense, the first thing that you should do if that doesn't make you realize that that whole industry has been captured. And I am totally okay with telling you that the modern healthcare enterprise is demonic. Now, that might be strong for some people and you can turn it off now if you want to, but I'll prove that to you over the course of this show. The fact that we have turned physiology, we Poison ourselves. We pour. Excuse me, we pour stuff down our mouths all day long. And then we get sick and fat or whatever else.
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Go for it.
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You could say, yeah, he's not allowed to say, oh, yeah, I'm not allowed to say it.
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So. So here. And then we. And then we're like, we're not that stupid. That's literally one of my podcasts. I just wrote it. It said dog. It was epic for dogs. Are we really that dumb? Like, if you can't see that, if you can't see that, then I don't know. Honestly, I'm. I'm worried for you now. You know, top, you had said, I think you had said, like, you know, you can see that some people get put in this last ditch effort, right? Like, they've been so sick for so long. And I, I can appreciate that concept. But, you know, I think some of you. I said that you had kids. I've got two kids. Like, to me, that's like bad parenting. What I mean by this is like, it's an excuse and a justification. Okay? And as long as we keep dangling these carrots out there, right? And we say like, oh, well, you know, all these other health risks that they have associated with obesity, hey, at least we're getting them to lose their weight. But the problem is just like Covid jabs, just like everything else, they don't have the data to actually prove that point. It's only been on the market, became the best selling drug. 90% of Ozempic is sold in the United States of America. It's not made in America. It's made overseas by another company, Norwegian company, Novartis, I believe. And 90% of the market is the United States of America. Right? And it's getting covered by insurance companies. And I think it's $1,100 to $1,700 a dose. And so I would, I, I hate Ozempic so bad, okay? And not because I'm anti people losing weight or anti this. It's because it exposes what they're trying to do to people, which is, it's not your fault. There's nothing you can do about it. We have a drug to save you. Just like they tried to call a Covid jab the savior. Just like they tried to call chemo the savior. Whatever else that they want to do. And it's putting, as a Christian, as a, you know, we're putting our faith in medicine. We're putting our faith in pills, potions and lotions. And then when it doesn't work, we blame God. It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Like, it's, it's embarrassing. So you got me out. You already got me fired up.
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But. Well, no, I mean, this is, I understand why you're fired up. And somebody said real Ry or die said that it's really, you know, sad seeing fat children and, and you know.
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I understand, but it also makes you laugh.
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Well, because they're cute. I mean, you know what? I will admit they're much cuter than fat adults. But there is something. I, I guess I don't want to jump to a crazy conclusion and say like, it's child abuse. It is, but it really, it feels like it. Like I want to say that the.
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Thing is, it's like there are so many decisions throughout the day and, and we, we talk about on this show because we, we approach it from like a, a spiritual lens. Like we're constantly being asked to consent. And throughout the day you have these, these decisions. And at least five times a day you'll have a decision on what you're going to put inside of your mouth and your body.
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Like yesterday when you said, do you want cookies? And I said, no, no.
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And then he ate all.
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I ate about four or five cookies right after that. But what you're saying about this whole being produced overseas, we don't have long term data. That sounds a lot like. You brought up Covid. It sounds a lot like the MRNA vaccinations. And I know we're going to have.
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To, you know, who knew this, this episode?
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Who knew? Well, we said this. We're going to be doing a lot of medical information and that's the number one thing that YouTube doesn't like. And so when people listen on YouTube and every other word is bleeped out and they go, why is it like this? It's the only way we get to exist on this platform. Okay.
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Yeah.
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But in very much in the same way we were being subjected to experimental MRNA technology that had no long term data. That was really the, the huge issue that I was talking about in the very beginning, really early on is like we don't know what the long term effects of this are. Sure. They' studies and you know.
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Well, it's like that's almost like a secondary. Like they don't care or they don't care. We've been, we've been presented. It's like, like I said, it's a constant presentation of choices and it's all garbage. And the more you choose the garbage, the Deeper into this hole you get. And the deeper in that hole you get, the harder is harder is to come out. And here they are with this. It's like a. That's like a freemasonic response, right? It's like we create a situation.
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Dialectic crap. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's like, well, here, now you have this. I was like, here's Red Die 40. And it's. It's in all this stuff that's very addictive and it's delicious.
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Yeah.
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And now that you're a fat slob and you really can't move because, listen, man, I have. I have family members. Like, this is horrible.
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Yeah.
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That, like, they can't breathe, so they can't even get up and move around to lose weight. And it's like, yeah, what other choice do you have?
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You know what's really funny, though, is like, during COVID the number one comorbidity was obesity. Like, that was what put you at risk the most. And now it's like, well, we have a cure for the obesity, but it comes with all these ailments. So it's like no matter what you do, it's. Obesity is going to end up killing you. If you take Ozempic, you'll lose the weight, but you'll get a litany of.
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Things like loss, smaller coffin.
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Yeah. I mean, hey, at least it's cost effective.
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They just said one of the things that just came out is actually causing blindness. Right. Another one. There was a. There was a crazy. There was a great. He's a Cardio Harvard doctor, Dr. Abramson, and he was talking about statin drugs. His wife was a cardiologist. And he just said. This was. His statement. Made me think of it when you said cough. And he said, and this is such a perfect example. He said, dying with corrected cholesterol isn't a successful outcome. His point is there's not studies that show that taking statin drugs reduce your chances of death. It may lower your cholesterol, but it doesn't stop you from having a heart attack and dying. So we sell it. So to your point, we say, hey, I got this family member. I mean, I'm with you. I know many people on these medications, and they thought that was their only choice, but it didn't actually. They might have lost some weight, but they still die the same way. Or they die from something else, or they die sooner. I just had a woman, a patient go to a funeral last Saturday, a young lady who. I mean, here's what. This is real. This is really what happens? I had a patient and she was. Or a friend of theirs, and they said, yeah, I know, I should get on Ozempic. I know there's all these side effects, but I really just need to lose some weight. She gets on it. She was fine, healthy. I can't prove this one to you, but. Young female in her 30s, within months of starting to take Ozempic, Pancreatic cancer and dead. Okay. Another one was a woman who took Ozempic and she had her friend, and these are friends of mine, and she was kind of embarrassed that she was taking it, right? She's like, I know I don't want to take it, but I'm having a hard time losing weight. She takes it. She has a. She has a mental breakdown. She gets put in a psych. She gets put in the hospital. Mental breakdown. One of the side effects of these medications is literally people losing their minds. I had another patient who's an executive at a hospital in Orlando. She got put on Ozempic. Same thing. Want to lose some weight. Well, she's good friends. One of the. One of the doctors there actually is, wrote the protocols for Ozempic, puts it on her. Puts her on it. She starts measuring her blood levels. I have all of her blood levels, specifically her liver enzymes. Fine, fine, fine, fine, fine. Starts Ozempic. All of a sudden her liver is like. It looks like a disease liver. All of her enzymes off of the chart. So we have to frame this appropriately. These are toxic, poisonous chemicals, man made synthetic drugs that you're dripping in your body. What universe are we living in thinking that that is going to get us healthy? That'd be like. That'd be like saying, you know, I'm going to become a better, you know, Christian by, you know, doing more porn. Like, what are we doing here? Right? But I feel better when I do it. Well, what the flip are we doing?
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That's the same thing, though. Like, I understand that we need to be more transparent with the litany of side effects when it comes to this sort of a thing, and I agree with that. But I also wonder how many people. That's actually going to stop because I've been talking about this on the show for the past few episodes, but I recently went on a cruise and. And me and my family were subjected to whatever kind of like television they had going on where, you know, it wasn't like a streaming service. So we're getting a lot of commercials. And these commercials are kind of aimed at, I guess, boomers. And. And so we're Getting a ton of medication ads and everything is like happy people skipping through the field, which we've been subjected to for a long time. They made bits about this back in Chappelle Show Day, you know, in his sketch comedy show about as, as people are skipping through the field, as there's an old man holding his, his grandson above his head and spinning and, and he's carrying his wife on his back. They're also listing off the side effects. And the side effects are like, you know, anal fissures, you know, retinal failure, suicidal thoughts. Like any, any horrifying thing you could possibly think of is what they're rattling off. Explosive diarrhea, you name it. And it's not stopping anybody. It doesn't seem to be slowing the industry down. In fact, it's only grown since the early 2000s. The MED or the pharmaceutical industry is now probably the most lucrative, the most, I guess, financially successful industry that we have to show here in America. And we've been telling people that you're going to die of explosive diarrhea for over a decade. It's not slowed anybody down. So I'm just wondering how many people would still opt to do this thing. I mean, the information's there. Very similarly to Covid, it was like if you bothered to look, you would find a lot of information on the MRNA vaccination, you would find a lot of information about the COVID statistics that should have made you slow down and scratch your head. And yet we still went barreling towards this. There's still people that went and got vaccinated for a hamburger or, or, or a beer. So it's like, man, I don't know what we've done to the psychology of Americans. But even if you showed them, you know, hey, in order to take Ozempic, you got to go sit in this room for an hour and, and we're going to show you every single thing that can happen to you. What percentage of those people would still come out and be like, I don't know, being fat sucks.
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You know, gosh. So just a couple of things, and you guys probably know some of this, but maybe for your listeners, there's only two countries in the world that allow direct to consumer advertising for drugs. United States and New Zealand. And New Zealand's is very regulated. It wouldn't be what you would think here. It'd be a very generic commercial. Right? Ours here are just what you described. So of all of the nations, and the United States is 5% of the population of the world, we consume about 75% of the medications. Like, it's an. It's, it's insane. We're one of this. We're the sickest industrialized nation in the world. We have the worst infant mortality and maternal mortality rates in the world. Like, now much of this isn't exposed. Like, you know, like you said, doesn't make the news. Why doesn't it make the news? Because pharma owns the, the advertisement agency. They're the budgets for most of these forms. So, like, it's not so you're right. Like, I don't, I don't disagree with you. I was thinking about the Milgram's experiment. If you remember that it was out of Yale, you guys would know the study they took. This is important to remember, though. They, they brought people in and they were asking questions to a person behind the wall, and if they got the wrong answer, they, they shocked them, right? And then they. This is where they studied how do people respond to authority. So, like, so they had a person with a white lab coat on and, and, And a clipboard, and they would stand there and they would just say, you know, keep going. And then they would, they, they. 65% of the people went all the way to 400 volts, where the people on the other side of the wall are screaming, stop begging. And then they just stop responding. So this person literally thinks they shocked somebody to death, and they were willing to do that because somebody with a white coat stood next to them and did that. And so I, I agree with you. Only thing I would say, or the only thing I can say is some people will listen, right? So some people say, why are you so extreme? Why are you always yelling and screaming? Why are you so pissed off at medicine? Well, because it almost killed me. So that's part of my journey and part of my story. But then partly is also, somebody woke me up, right? It's like sharing the gospel, right? Some people say, I, I personally hate this. It's not in the Bible. And they say, you know, they say, you know, I always share the gospel and sometimes use words. They don't say that in the Bible it says share the gospel. We use our words. We're not. We're not. Yeah, like, live like a Christian, but, like, we're also share. Called to share the gospel. Somebody taught me the truth about God's laws of health and healing, and it changed my life. I was, I was brainwashed just like everybody. I wasn't raised in some hippie commune that didn't take, you know, didn't take drugs. I just, somebody talked to me one time and helped me understand that the body is designed to heal. And it was like, how come I've never thought about that all. Because all I'm thinking about is, evidently it's not designed to heal. Look at all the people tell me how many drugs I need. And Uncle Bob is sick and Scotty's fat. What's going on here? And so, you know, I, I. There is almost a. You can have a sense of helplessness. I remember during COVID like you were talking about just being so frustrated, right? Like, my family never wore masks. We never ever. I never put a mask on my face or my kids the whole time. And, you know, I've gotten thrown out a lot of stores. My wife got sprayed in Trader Joe's with antiseptic like she was the plague. My wife's an attorney, right. Like, don't, don't do that to her. And, and so, But I understand a lot of people are. They don't have the, they don't have the balls to do that. They don't have the guts to do that. They're sheep. And that starts from our education system. That starts from just right authority. Do what they say, do what they tell you to do. And once those skills are ripped from your eyes, then you see the world obviously very differently.
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But yeah, one of the things that really kind of broke that illusion for me, there's obviously a ton of stuff like I was actually talking about just today. I made a tweet and it was, you know how Facebook will show you your memories from so long ago? So 16 years ago, I posted on Facebook and I said, I must have read an article or something that cued me off to it. And I said, the swine flu vaccination has already killed 25 people here in the United States and they are considering mandate mandating it this coming fall. And I said, are you going to get your. Your vaccination? And it goes to show you that this sort of thing has been happening for quite somehow. Here it is actually. Yes. Swine flu vaccines have already killed 25 people in America so far. They want to make the mandatory this upcoming four. You're going to get one. So. And to me, that screams, you know, not. They're not trying to find actual viable ways to heal Americans. They are forwarding an agenda. And, and that is like a dry run. They're doing a little bit of a trial run. They're testing the waters here 16 years ago. And, and obviously that one never came to pass. And, and, you know, but they do that constantly. It's like swine flu is coming. Oh, better. Do you know, are we gonna. We might have to get. And then you get, you know, H1N1 is coming.
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Ebola for a little while, Zika virus.
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Right. It's always something until they finally get what they want, which is, you know, and I guess everybody's speculating right now, what nefarious purpose did this thing serve? You know, this gene altering technology. Is it just the, the medical intervention that does something to the individual? Or is it the, the government overreach, the lockdowns, the destruction of the financial system, the, you know, all of these. Or, or is it one of these? Why not all of the above?
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I remember when that H1N1 came out or when that swine flu and I, I was in practice. I've been in practice about 21 years and I was in practice and I was one of the most devastating experiences I had. I had a patient that was pregnant and they scared her into getting that shot. She waited in line at the fairgrounds to get the shot. She was, I think she was like six months pregnant or five months pregnant. This is, and this is why I call healthcare demonic, okay? As she's sitting there, she waits in line, she gets the jab. As she gets the jab, she feels her baby die. Her baby starts like moving around and you know, like, whatever, if you will, kicking. It's kind of fighting for his life and then it dies. And, you know, causation isn't always correlation or whatever, but like, I think we can do the math on that one. And so when we have something that gets injected into people, and even if you look at, you use that one as 25 people look at how people freaked out about that and they pulled it off. Yet we have, who knows for sure how many people the Kobe shot died, but there's, you know, 19,000 reported deaths to the various system alone that haven't been properly investigated. Like, so we certainly have reasons to be concerned when we sit in a place where healthy pregnant women are being feared into going and getting a jab with chemicals in there that can cause a baby to die. My friends, we have a problem and we can't just look at that. And this is what I mean. People need to get their heads wrapped around this. Like, you're literally saying to yourself, if you believe that, that's okay, meaning, like those things exist, then you're saying, we think it's okay to kill some people so others might live. That's human sacrifice. That's what that is. You got to wake up to that, especially when you get in this realm of. Of man dating. Right. And these kinds of conversations. So, yeah, I mean, that's heavy stuff.
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It's Nephilim. It's Nephilim. Realist. I mean, we. We're actually gonna have this guy back on right after this episode, but we spoke to this. This guy Sean of Kingdom in Context, and we were going through some extra canonical texts, like the Book of Enoch, and he brought up some passages from chapter seven. I don't know where you're at on, you know, the Apocrypha, but I got.
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It right in front of me now.
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There you go. There you go.
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Okay. So, yeah, it's actually the first verse of chapter seven where it talks about how the. How the fallen procreated with the woman. And it's like they used enchantments. They were using cutting of roots.
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Yeah, the cutting of roots, which was one of them.
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Yeah.
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And then it goes. And then they bore children.
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And then they bore children.
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You're like, wait, what?
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Yeah, so, like. Like, one sentence is they took them as wives. The nexus. They were using enchantments, cutting of roots, which is like pharmacia. That's like, in. In the. The Greek. When it's translated, that's kind of what it goes. What they were talking about there. And then they bore children. And it's like, when you look at that, you're like, wow, were these ancient astronaut theorists, were these ancient angels, like, using these techniques? And are we still using them today? And is this book true? Are we learning the art of, you know, makeup, the art of war. War from. From these entities? And why has it become so diluted? Why is it not what God meant it to be, if God meant it to be this at all? And it makes a lot of sense when you just mentioned human sacrifice, which is. I think it's crazy to say, but I think that's a huge part of what we're looking at here, especially with. I mean, we have the abortion clinics that are outright, which are, on its face, human sacrifice. And there's really no hiding it at this point. But what we do, like, with these mass rituals, the propaganda campaigns, in order to get people to consent to these things, and then you see the effects of it, and you're like, how could this be anything other than that?
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A
And, dude, that. The. The rituals and the propaganda campaigns to get people to success, to. To accept these things is, like, a huge. A huge portion.
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C
Yeah, they. They've got to accept at some. Like that's why the mandates are weird, right? There's that, that level of consent that's not there.
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B
But yeah, I had a, a friend of mine, he uses this example and I think it's a good one. And, and he said, you know, if there was this organization that did a lot of wonderful things, whatever built wells in Africa and did all this wonderful stuff, but once a year they took a newborn child and sacrificed it. Like you would, you would probably say not, not supporting them. Right?
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C
Like, are you talking about Mr. B.
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A
Are you talking about what happened in.
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Haiti during the relief efforts? Like not, not gonna send them a check right after. Actually, what I'm talking about in this instance is that when it comes to the childhood immunizations, many of those are. Contain aborted fetal tissue cells. Okay. So this cell lines from aborted fetal tissue cells, many of them. So the COVID jabs, for example, they were, they were tested. None of them contain aborted fetal. But they were tested on aborted fetal tissue. So for an order them to come to market, aborted fetal tissue cells were used. I would encourage your listeners to go watch what do they call that when they sit people down legally? I. Oh gosh, you know. Yeah. Deposition with Stanley Plotkin. Okay. P L O T K I N Dr. Stanley Plotkin. Dr. Stanley Plotkin is. He's considered the grandfather of Godfather of Vaccines. It's actually called. The book they use in medical school is Plotkin's Vaccines at the cdc. The gavel they use is called Plotkin's Gavel. Okay. And so there's a nine hour deposition that he is in and it's one of the most unbelievable depositions that you will watch. And he talks about chopping up 68 little babies and blending them up and this gentleman right here. And, and he actually, they actually talk about him. They literally said, well, because it was the reason the case existed. It was a divorce case between a mother and a father who had difference opinions about vaccines. And so they were, that that was how this testimony came to be. And there's a statement in there where the, the attorney asks him, you know, but what do you think about like on religious rights? And he's, he says, are you an atheist? And Dr. Plackin says, yes, I'm an atheist. He says, I'm more than happy to go to hell for this. Okay, so.
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Weird thing to say.
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Yeah, that's a weird thing to say. So, so when that is the fountain head of our current situation and that's applauded and we put that as the plot can glad gavel at the CDC and textbooks named after him. And he's on every board of every pharma company. And like. Like, it's not. I'm not extreme. I always say, people, I'm extreme. That's extreme. Taking 68 babies and cutting them up and trying to make something out of that and inject that into people that, my friends, you have to answer for. For me saying that I'm going to trust the immune system God gave me. That's not extreme.
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What a wild concept to go. What if we blended these up and put them in people? Is a. Is. It is a. That's demonic. I mean, you want to talk about some sort of demonic influence and people, you know, we're talking about the propaganda aspect of things. It's wild, because what that tweet from 16 years ago, it's roughly 10 years before, you know, Covid pops off. And you said, like, 25 deaths and they pulled the swine flu vaccine. They go, sorry, we can't do that. What they managed to do in 10 years with the propaganda is insane. To the fact that we would all line up, despite the amount of, you know, deaths on vaids or whatever the hell it's called, being reported in excess of like, 90 or something like that.
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C
It's why a doctor chiropractor also has to have a podcast. Yeah, it's very sad. Like, you have to create your own propaganda to battle. Again, this in a form. This is what this show is like. This is how I started doing this. Like, how I started working in media and podcasts is because of COVID Specifically because of what happened and the injustices that I thought were happening. I was like, you know what? I'm gonna. I'm gonna talk about it. And we started, like, talking about it. I mean, we use comedy in a way to kind of cut through because we're not smart.
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A
Well, yeah, but you have to. It makes it more palatable. But that. That propaganda thing also happened on the. On the. The abortion front, because somehow we convince women that killing their unborn child was synonymous with reproductive rights, with their rights, with feminism, with. With. With pushing back against attempts to suppress women. And. And so, like, we have twisted everybody's mind when it comes to these things that are demonic, man.
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B
I think, you know, fear is the virus. Right? And when people. One of the things that you said there, I think what's. What was really revealing about. About. About COVID in part or some things you're talking about is it really reveals how much love we have for like, self love. Like, I'm willing for, like, I will. I'm like, I'm okay with there being aborted field tissue in that if it might make my life better like that. What I've seen some, the studies on anti aging, the demonicness of the anti aging movement is that most of that is built on the backs of human death. Like, we're willing to sacrifice children in the name of science so I can live longer. And we're okay with that. The people, the reason, like, you know, the interesting thing about early Christianity and even the early hospitals and back in the smallpox and things like that, there were, I mean, there was a time where Christians weren't idiots, right? Like, there was a time where we were known because we would go. The early hospitals were Christians that were willing to go in and risk their lives to serve smallpox or just right people. Like, they were like, they're like, who are these people that are willing to die for me? They don't even know me. And, and now, you know, it was shut down. The church, you know, my Bible says, lay hands on the sick and they shall recover. 20, 20 churches said shut down. Stay home, we don't want to see you. Right?
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Like, I literally stay six feet away from people.
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Stay six feet away from me. Like, what are we doing? And I just think it revealed, like, how fearful we are, how fearful we are of death, how fearful we are of, of, you know, you know, just living, living it out. And really, do we believe what we even proclaim to believe? Do we believe the words that are written in the scriptures? And so I think it was really exposed, the fear. You know, we're called the fear. One thing, the fear of the Lord is the beginning of all wisdom. The rest of this is manufactured, you know, propaganda, like you were saying, and just so happens to be, you know, in healthcare, because we are creating likeness and image of God and he knits us together in our mother's womb. He knows the hairs on our head. Like, it's such a powerful place for the enemy to attack, right? Like, we spend, you know, four and a half, $5 trillion a year on health care. Like, you know, just, you know, kind of. And what are we? What have we done? I think four years in a row, the life expectancy has gone down. Suicides are through the roof. Depression is through the roof. 25% of all childbearing age women are on antidepressant medications. Like, and we're calling this success. Like, we're the sickest we've ever been with the sickest history kids in the history of the world. The number one area growing of cancer is pediatric cancer. Like, what part of the modern health enterprise are you calling successful? It's a pile of shit. Like, what do you want it? Like, prove me wrong. Like, show me the breakthroughs. Show me what's happening. And it's not, it's not there. We're more, you know that. So anyway, I say that because people are still hypnotized, right? And to your point, I think in their fear, right? I had a woman tell me the other day, she went in, she had a 3 millimeter disc herniation. Like that's very small, okay? Like if you can think about that, just very tiny. And she had gone in to the doctor and she, for whatever reason, she recorded the. She recorded it and she shared it with me. But I didn't ask her to do that. She just did that. And he says to her, he says to her, if you don't.
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A
Can I guess that's exactly what I was going to say is surgery.
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C
They want to cut.
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If you, if you don't. Oh, it's crazy. If you don't get surgery, you will wake up paralyzed.
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A
Wow.
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And I, and I was like, so if you, to your point, I think if you wouldn't know any better and you're not skeptical and you're just think, you know, the, the Milgram's experiment. Just because you have a white lab coat on, you know everything. And you tell me that I'm going to be paralyzed if I don't have surgery. I mean, most people are going to get surgery. Like you're going to fall for that. I mean, agree with. They shouldn't, but they, that they will. So she comes in me and she said this, it was powerful. And then throw back at you guys. She said, she said, Dr. Ben. I just, she was like mad and angry and she's, you know, she's awoke to this stuff. But she goes, I can't get that image out of my head, right? And I was like, exactly. Why are we so fast to believe in disease? Why are we so fast to accept a label, a diagnosis? But God forbid somebody speaks life into you. Admonishment, life giving, right? That you're designed to heal, Creating like this image of God. Your body's done more things. Your body does more things in this millisecond that we even know how to do. Trillions of things in every single cell, every single second. I say this often, you know, in all history of all Time. Of all the scientists, everything, they've never made one single living cell. Yet in the 20 minutes we've been talking, your body's made millions of them without being told what to do, without getting a pill. So we need to like, look at the wisdom of the, of the, of the ages, the Holy Spirit within, the God within. And we need to understand that that power compared to like the best that man's got. He says even, even the smartest is ridiculous. Right? That's the paraphrasing massively from the scriptures there. But like, even the wisest of you is foolishness to God. Okay? Yet we look at scientists out of Baylor say that we know less than 1% about the workings of the human body. Well, I wouldn't take my car to a mechanic that know 1% of working on cars, all right? The reality is the body is infinitely complicated and we have to be really, really, really careful about messing with that thing and acting like we're improving it. And it's shown itself not to be true. It's shown itself not to work out by all of the things that we're talking about today, man.
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C
You know, my, it's. My. My wife was. Well, she still is a nurse, a registered nurse.
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B
Yeah.
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C
And when we moved to Florida, she got really sick from some crazy circumstances. She had Lyme disease and it popped up. We had no idea. It ran, ran the gamut on her of everything that it could, you know, affect. And she was bedridden for a month. She ended up seeing one doctor and he wanted to put her on a pill that. I don't know what it is, but she said she would have been on for the rest of her life. And she recognized what the pill was and she was like, I can't do that. And now this is someone who's firmly planted in western medicine because it's what she went to school for. And she wasn't like, you know, she didn't get the vax or anything, thank God. Because that could have been like, I've seen marriages broken up over, you know, that kind of stuff. But so she saw this pill, she rejected it, she went the holistic route. And we were doing, you know, IV infusions of like, vitamin C, high dose and glutathione and all kinds of other stuff. Actually, I saw you had interviewed Dr. Peter McCullough. Yeah, the doctor over here that we went to was associated with him through the flccc, I think at the time. I don't know. Yeah, I think that's the organization. So I Saw that outside. I was like, okay, this lady, you know, is probably better than a standard doctor. She helped out and we saw more people and we actually started going to the chiropractor as well. We stopped since because it's expensive, but we, we were going there and all of these things, like, were extremely beneficial. Just like the holistic route of. I mean, if you go out into the pantry now, it's just all kinds of supplements and like that out there.
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A
Yeah, this guy's got like a small vitamin shop in his pantry.
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C
You know, parasite cleanses, supplements, chiropractor, help just eating, you know, eating right or trying to eat.
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A
You guys did red. Red light therapy as well too, right?
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C
Yeah, red light therapy. The sauna. We have a sauna up there. And I'm telling you, dude, within like three months, like, we completely turned her around. And she's good now, but. Yeah, otherwise she would have been.
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I'll tell you what. Yeah, a lifelong drug would have been better, I think. I don't know why you guys went through all that.
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C
Maybe surgery. They should have just cut her open, right?
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A
I think she should still be on that medication right now. I don't know why you're such a.
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B
So you got. So what's a. Fascinating. If you. If you go to my podcast. I had an episode. I'm just trying to think of her last name. Oh, my gosh. She's from Stanford. She wrote the book on. On Lyme disease. I'm using this as an example. So glad to hear your wife recovering, recovered. But look, as Lyme can be a battle, right? But. But it's pretty. It's pretty much acknowledged now that Lyme disease was made to. Was created and they. And they put it in ticks and they use ticks. They drop them off. They sprayed them over. They dropped them off. So here we sit right where we live in a place. Oh my gosh, I wish I could remember her name. She's a great interview. She really blew the whistle. She got to all of the notebooks from the guy that worked in the labs and, and blew the whistle on a lot of this. And it's really important because if you don't. And I just believe this, if you don't unders. It's like if you don't know how bad something is, then you won't know you're in a fight. You don't bring a water gun to a, you know, wildfire. If you don't know how corrupted the medical system is and the science. The top. Some of the. Some of the top medical journals, editors for the BMJ to the Lancet to the New England Journal of Medicine are on record of saying, for example, one of them said that only 6% of the science that makes it in those journals is reproducible or valid. Another one said that 90% of it is bought and paid. Like, this is a problem. And God bless your wife. I don't mean nurses are some of my favorite people because they see most of the bs, they see the egos and the destruction of the, the docs and then they, they're the ones left to pick up the mess. Right. And they're and stuff. I've not, it's not the people. Like, it's not the people, it's the, it's the, it's the system. Right. And the system, my brother in law is the president of a hospital. Like, you know, it's, it's a, it's a disaster. It's not his fault, but he's certainly not, not part of the solution. And so I think that until we realize how bad it is, we'll keep giving them the benefit of the doubt. We'll keep saying like, oh, what are you gonna do? You know, blah, blah, blah. And I think that's what's leading to so much of this. Just apathy.
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C
Yeah, it's, it's like I, I get, I get giving them the benefit of the doubt because it, we've been put in a situation where it's like, these are people that we know, that we love, that we care about. But I'm like, at what point do I say, listen, I understand exactly what's going on here. And it's, some people are brought for sure. Like I know that there are stipulations for doctors if you're, if you have 100% compliance or close to it for vaccination with your kids, you get all this stuff. But the fact is they go through college, then they go and get their master's and they get their doctorate and these things are very expensive. Then they start their private practice and through Obamacare you have to have all of this infrastructure set up before you could even be compliant or they'll shut you down. It's like, so now you're in it a couple hundred thousand dollars.
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A
Yep.
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C
And years of your life. Well, now I'm telling you what you have to do.
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A
By the way, you were put on that path since elementary school.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Middle school, high school. By the time you decided what you wanted to do, you were already indoctrinated into a system that said, oh, you want to be this or do this? You have to go through these.
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C
Yeah, but they see it. They see it when they're up close.
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A
I know that.
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B
They see.
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A
Oh, once you get it up close. Yeah.
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C
But the thing is, you cannot defer from it because there's a lot of. There's so many monetary ties and then also social ties.
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B
Right.
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C
I'll be rejected from the community.
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B
Sure.
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A
Ostracized, ridiculed, called a kook.
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C
Excuse my French, though. I don't give a fuck.
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A
Right.
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C
Because you know better. You should know better, and you can't be out there hurting people. So it's like, I don't know what to do.
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A
It's a diffusion of responsibility. When you go, like, even once you realize and you do know better, you look around and you go. Millions have followed this exact route, gone on to make money or.
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C
No, they've been threatened.
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B
You.
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C
You've been threatened in a way to continue your behavior, and you're being rewarded for it. But they understand what's happening, and it's like, it's. It's coming to a point where, yeah, there has to be some sort of recompense for this.
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A
I don't know what that recompense looks like, but I know one thing we.
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C
Got to give in these people. Too much time.
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A
Yeah. These poor people that are watching the show aren't allowed to watch anymore. If you want to prove to us that you have money, you know the spiel, patreon.com forward slash, nephilim death Squad. You can continue enjoying this show, engaging the live chat, or give it a week, and the episode will drop for free in its entirety, although highly censored, answered on YouTube. But otherwise, it's all for Patreon now. Goodbye to Rumble. What do you.
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C
Where do you put that?
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B
I.
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C
That's a. I know it's a. It's a controversial idea, but, like, man, like, I remember during COVID especially living in New York and dealing with this, I was like, what do I do? What do I do? What is to be done with these people who have sat by, seen what happened, and not just allowed personal responsibility? Talking about the doctors. I'm talking about the doctors. Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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C
It's like, you need. I think we. We need doctors as well, because these are brilliant people.
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A
Yeah.
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C
And they do help, but their curriculum that they're. That they are in everything is based.
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A
Off of maintenance, not curing. So they want to. They want to, you know, sort of keep a lifelong ready, and you can look at the Trans movement as a big representative representation of that model where it's like we want to keep you coming back through the door. It's a business model rather than one where you actually heal the individual.
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C
Well, some of this, some of this a business model, some of it is just straight detrimental to the health of people and is really hurting them and they still do it.
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A
It's like, yeah.
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B
What I don't know. I think you said something there top that I think was interesting which is. And I, I don't disagree with you. Let me just clarify a couple things. So, so emergency medicine, right? Like, like, right, like if I head is laying on the other side of the street, like don't take me to the chiropractor, right? Like, I think we all grasp that, that here's what people don't really think about though. So that emergency medicine, that's about 2 to 3% of health care. Okay, so we're talking about everything else here, right? 97, 98 of healthcare is the other stuff. We're talking about diabetes, heart disease, whatever, cancer. And they do a very poor job at that. But here's the point. So there was a, there was a study, 2009, this was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association. Dr. Kilo K I L O and another doctor, Master's in Public health. Here's what they said, and I am pretty close to this exact quote here. They said their summary at the end of it was. And the title of the article, I believe was the Understanding the Harmful Effects of Modern Health Care. All right? And so what they did, real simple, they just added it up, they did what we would do. They just said like, how many people die from the drugs over, you know, how many people this, how many people that? And at the end of it, their statement is it's critical that we, you know, understand or it's possible that the modern healthcare enterprise is causing more harm than good. Okay, so this is like, this is crazy. Like, think of it like this. If, if we brought firemen into town and brought, built a bunch of fire stations and all of a sudden we start having more fires, more people dying in fires, and it's getting worse and we're spending $100 million a year to have firemen in our town. Like, something's not adding up. So although, and I think what you, you mentioned there is like they, hey, they do do some good. The problem is, are we getting even close to an ROI? We spend 18% of our GDP on it. $5 trillion a year. People are mandated into it. People are forced to do things, to go to school, to do this other thing, and yet we're getting sicker and it's not working. Like, at some point we don't just. Yeah, we don't just let them go. To your point, we don't just let them go. Like, well, you know, they do some good. Well, shoot, there's a lot of things that do some good. My neighbor lady does some good. I don't give her $5 trillion to keep up doing what she wants to do. Like, it's not an excuse. I'm not saying. You're saying that's an excuse. I just mean, like, this is the game that we kind of play because there's this fear. Like, well, hey, what do we do? What do we not do? And the reality is, you know, if the health care system did collapse, and I'm a, I'm a believer that it needs to, then, you know, there's going to be a lot of a redistribution, right? There's going to be a lot of intelligent, smart people like doctors and nurses, your wife, those people that are, you know, there's been, there's been times where people tried to start, like, holistic hospitals and things like that. And the end, they end just like you think, right? They get shut down by the authorities, right? They. They do anything they can to shut them down. So we really are in a difficult position. So I think most of what I try to do with patients right now is just, it's just do maybe what you guys are doing. You're just trying to. At the end of the day, it's your health, right? At the end of the day, it's a decision between you and your family. And encouraging people to engage in that model less or try to find ways to get outside of it. I know it is frustrating. I just walked out of a meeting with a woman today who. Daughter has a pretty serious situation going on and she wants to do holistic healthcare, but she's like, I can't afford it. It. It's one of my big. I really do hate that. I hate that for people because, you know, certainly sitting in a situation where, you know, we do know that God created us and, and he did a brilliant job of that. So it's, it's. It really breaks my heart. It'd be like saying that, you know, salvation, you know, I can't afford to be saved. You know what I mean? Right. Like, health, in a sense, is a gift. All health and all healing is, is God's grace in our lives and It's a universal grace. It's there for the believer and the unbeliever. There's certain things that are available to believers as it relates to healing. But, you know, and. And the Lord had a lot to say about healing. Three quarters of the Gospel or the New Testament is healing miracles, right? There's amazing healing in the Bible. When I wrote my book designed to heal, I went from Genesis to Revelation and pulled out all the healing scriptures there was. There's healing scriptures in every book of the Bible, and about 75% of them actually had to deal with the mind. And I thought that was fascinating, right. Anxieties and. And stresses and things like that. Of course, there's the miraculous stories of rising from the dead and, you know, bleeding for, you know, 12 years, stopping and hunched over for 18 years. My favorite miracles to. About blindness, you know, casting out demons. These are very real things. And it's still. It still is real today. And so I just feel like, you know, part of my. My hope is as certainly for body believers, it's hard with the secular. I get it, right? Like, I don't know, they're gonna. They have faith in something else. They have faith in pills, potions, and lotions. But for people that claim to be Christians, then I think we need to have a serious conversation about what does that look like? How do we walk that out? Right. How do we actually live our faith out in that?
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A
Well, I. I kind of want to go back to something you were saying before in regards to Lyme disease and it potentially having been. And I. I do believe that I say potentially just because I don't know it, but it is something that I suspect.
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C
Honestly, I think it's 100.
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A
Well, that's what I'm saying.
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C
Like, I'm like symptoms that my wife had were insane. I mean, from your finger, from her fingertips to her toes to vertigo, to like just about any kind of one.
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A
Of the worst you could think of. Yeah.
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C
It's like, ran the gamut of everything. I was like, what the.
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A
What is symptoms? Pretty much everything. How do you heal it? Well, you don't. It's lifelong maintenance. But this idea that it was weaponized, that it was a bio weapon, is something that I suspect deeply to be true. And it's wild because I. I imagine they did that undercover of night. Right. But they don't have to do that anymore. In the same way that they propagandized us to believe that, like, abortion is part of the reproductive rights or how 10 years before COVID we said no to the swine flu vaccine, but then we say yes to the COVID vaccine. And a burger and a, and a, and a, and a beer is the same way. Now that they seem to be comfortable enough telling us we're going to engineer mosquitoes and we're going to release them into public and we're going to integrate them somehow, one way or another with the COVID vaccination. And they were releasing articles about this for a time. And I try not to get too wrapped up in this because I think a lot of it is like fear porn. Right. And I don't, you know, we could have a larger discussion on, on this idea of fear that we were talking about earlier. And it very much resonated with me what you were saying, which is like the base, the real illness, the real disease is fe. And I agree with that wholeheartedly. So I don't look at this one too much, but it does sound a lot like the tick situation. And, and, you know, the Lyme disease, bioweapon is the same thing that they're trying to do, but they're no longer doing it under cloak and dagger. They're doing it out in the open. They're writing articles saying, hey, guys, don't worry. I know that you're fearful about, you know, Covid, we're engineering mosquitoes now. And, and when you think about the Zika virus and how there was like this big push for a moment where everybody goes, is that going to be the one? Is this going to be the new pandemic? And then that kind of fell to the wayside. I, I think there's two things about this. Number one, hugely dangerous, hugely dangerous, that they're bioengineering mosquitoes to be, you know, I guess, tiny flying vaccine machines. But number two, hats off to the propaganda that we exist in a time where you can tell us that in article after article and we don't burn you at the stake, because there was a time where they at least had to do these things in some sort of, you know, deep underground military base and then release it colloquially. And they're now just telling us like, oh, don't worry, we're going to do it and you're going to, you're going to enjoy it.
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B
I think that you, you bring up a really good point. So I don't know if you guys have seen this, and I agree with you. I can't give it too much in my brain sometimes because I, I just. It will consume me in Japan or. No, it might have been the UK they approved, this is a couple of months ago, I think it was in June, what they called self replicating or self spreading vaccines, right? Which is that it's going to literally so, so they, that. And it literally like to your point, they say in the literature like this is. Because then for those people that won't get vaccinated, then they're still going to get the vaccine. You know, we came up during mRNA, a lot of people were asking questions about shedding and some of those, you know, some of those, I, I had some scientists that were friends of mine that, that called me and they said, listen, and they're very nice, but this is then I think this is a good intersection of the faith right here. So he said to me, hey, Ben, if I was you, I know you lay out, you know, adjust patience, you know, that's physical job. I lay, you know, lay on them and have to do things. He said, he said if knowing what I know, if I was you, I would, I would not, I would not see vaccinated people. That's what he told me, right?
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A
Oh, that's interesting.
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B
And, and I said, and I just said to him, and I just said, I appreciate you calling me and I appreciate your perspective. However, just who I am and what I believe God's called me to do, I lay hands on the sick and that's what I'm gonna do. Right? And so I'm not saying everybody's gonna come to that answer, but I just, my faith is what my faith is that, right? And so, you know, you'll, you know, you'll get, you'll get bit by snakes and you shall not die. Like, I have a part of me that has to operate in that realm as a believer. Doesn't mean I go around licking toilets and I'm injecting, you know, poison into my body on a daily basis. But I believe, I just, I can't live in the fear. I can't live in the fear of that. They also, I also think you remember a long time. Remember, remember Al Gore's documentary? Remember back in the day, the, the climate one? Remember that? When Al Gore came out, I can't remember the name of it, but weird enough, my wife's alma mater, he was giving a talk, this is like 20 some years ago, and we went to the talk, I remember, and he said something. Regardless of the climate change stuff, he said this and it always stuck with me. He said, you know, there was unintended consequences. This was his argument, right? And when we start to play God to Your point? When we start manipulating something, we start putting some, you know, bugs out there, you know, using a mosquito as a vector for inoculation or something like that. Like, like, and it becomes self spreading or it's mutated or whatever it is. Like, this ends poorly, right? You're not going to fool God. You're not gonna, you're not gonna mock him, right? He's. And so the fact that we, the, the, the audacity and the ego and the pride that we think we're smarter than God and that we're gonna fix or improve upon his design is blasphemy. And it's, and it's led us to this place, which is we think that we're gods. I mean, in the sense that we think we are God and we think we're going to fool him. And, and then of course, we put, you know, doctors into kind of that, that deity position, right? So many times I'll meet with patients and they'll say, I don't want to take this drug, but I don't want to tell it to my doctor. I'm like, are you, what are you talking about? Like, they don't, you know, it's weird. It's a weird thing, right? Like, that would be weird. Like, be like you saying, you know, I don't want to tell my car mechanic, you know, that it still rattles. Like he might be mad at me. Like, no, you want it, you want it fixed. And so there's a lot that, that has to happen. What I don't know, like you were alluding to one of you is I don't know if it'll be like a band aid ripped off and the world wakes up and there's, we're finally just done with the model, right? Or if it'll be, I don't know, I don't know how it will play out. I thought more people would have. Yeah, go ahead.
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C
It's why I, I asked the question about, like, what do you do with the doctors? Because if you, if a study definitively comes out that, you know, doctors have been suggesting and basically forcing vaccines on kids. And I mean, you know, the autism rate is up like thousands of percent.
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A
During the, the lockdowns, there was horror stories of kids at school coming back and being like, oh yeah, they gave us a shot at school today.
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C
Yeah, no parental consent, but it's like, what do you do with these guys? Because something, something organized, it's got to happen. Otherwise if you rip that band aid off. This is a, I've thought about this a lot. Like, societally that is. Is bad news. You can't tell parents, like, your actions cause this to your child. But realistically, they're gonna go, no, no. I was given this advice by this guy with the robe, and it's a mess.
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B
But you got two things in play here. You got the prep act, which allowed them to essentially do anything. Okay? So if we're going to use the COVID jab specifically, and then we have, of course, the 1986 Vaccine. Vaccine act, which allowed, you know, vaccine manufacturers have immunity. They cannot be sued. And so now there's some. There's some powers. Yeah. So crazy. There's some, you know, there's some discussion right now if that's going to be changed, and it should be changed so they can be held liable. But until, you know, those things change, to your point, I. I don't. I think that it won't be. You know, we say this all the time. When you look at all of the, like, the Sackler stuff with the Purdue labs, with the OxyContin and all that, like, nobody went to jail. None of them went to jail. None of them. And so until people, like. I agree with you. Until people go to jail for this stuff, right? Like, nobody's like, what's your. What's your. You know, you're gonna just hide behind the. The immunity. You're gonna hide behind the laws, you're gonna hide behind. You know, I didn't know any better. It's going to be the, you know, that's why people have called for essentially, you know, Nuremberg Trials 2.0 based upon what happened during COVID and crimes against humanity. I think it's a fair. I think it's a fair position. I agree with you. I mean, that would be my. My prayer. I mean, you hear whispers sometimes, and you hope that somebody's going to be held accountable from Fauci to, you know, the. The other people worked in the. On the gain of function stuff. But I don't know if we'll see that day.
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A
It just doesn't seem like it. I mean, Fauci was able to do the same thing twice in a row with the AZT situation and the AIDS epidemic. And. And, you know, it's like, as far as people being held accountable, who was held accountable for the crack epidemic of the 80s where they. They used the cocaine to fund the Iran Contra wars. And then you had, like, Freeway Ricky Ross, he went to prison for some time, and I think the guy who, like, flew the planes maybe went to prison but what about all the. The opioid epidemics that hit us while we were guarding the opioid fields in Afghanistan?
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C
What about the guys facilitating the actual crack?
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A
That's what I'm saying. It's like, so, I don't know. Historically speaking, nobody's held accountable.
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C
I think that that's why, like, because I kind of came into the political sphere, into social media through this idea, and it's like, yeah, we're gonna, you know, prosecute Fauci and all these things. And it. After a while you're like, I don't think that that's going to happen.
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A
Yeah.
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C
And then you have to look a little bit deeper. And I had some Christian. Christian roots, and we just. We started to discover, well, what if I looked at this through the biblical lens? Like, what if I put that up and just sort of. It makes a lot more sense. Yeah, through that lens, through the Christian landscape, through that scope. But I wanted to ask you more about. Because this is. This is really blackpilling. I don't like this conversation.
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A
Well, I mean, look, it's ultimately not, but this is a fallen world, right?
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B
It's just.
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A
There's a narrow path. There is like Jesus Christ is what you should be focusing on. But. But as far as. I don't know.
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C
Well, it's something that has. That's happened and we got to talk about it, you know, every so often, too, because I forget myself that this has happened and, like, how angry I was because I was right there in the belly of the beast, got away from it. So that's good. But I want to talk about, like, your. Your practice and actually, like, the body actually healing itself, as you mentioned, like, like, you're not afraid to work with sick patients and you're going to help them. You're going to help align them, hopefully to clear their pathways so that there's like a better. Like, I know that you can do certain techniques for there to be better drainage for them to get rid of these toxins in their body. Can you just tell us like, a little bit about that? Like, how. How does that work?
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B
Yeah, it reminds me of, like, in the scriptures, right, Paul, you know, truth and grace, right? Like, we need both, right? I need a. I need a fire and brimstone sermon. And then I also need. I need to be remind that he. That he does love me, Right? Yeah, yeah.
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C
The solutions, you know, the actual solutions.
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B
So one of the things that I. That I love about chiropractic and is just to get started in that conversation is you Know when I remember like one of my first days of school in chiropractic, there was this, the professor put up this, you know, probably I think was an overhead projector. And it said when a person dies at 100 years old, medicine asks how did they die? Chiropractic asks, how did they live? Right. Chiropractic is a study of life and what makes people live. Medicine is a study of disease and what people, how people die. And that's a foundationally different approach. So the typical medical system we'll just call allopathic, right? Diagnosis, treatment of those, diagnosis with drugs. And we could talk about that. We're not, we've talked a lot about that. And then the other side is more of a vitalistic model, right? Which is this understanding that the body is a self healing, self regulating organism in a sense, needs no help, just no interference. We're really good at interfering with it. So one of the principles I love about chiropractic is that it isn't that I necessarily fix or cure anything, it's that we remove interferences or I think like you mentioned, maybe, you know, impedance or things that are blocking in a very simple example, maybe information from the brain to the body. So my story of my own healing through chiropractic was I had massive digestive. I was training for the 96 Olympics as a boxer and got sick. Didn't know what to do. I grew up in the traditional healthcare system. My mom says, go to the doctor. I go to the doctor. They do an upper GI and a lower gi. I remember waking up and the doctors holding, you know, the print off pictures of all these lesions through my digestive system. Just these black tar, bleeding ulcers all over. So many they stopped counting. And I said, I said, what do I do? He said, you take these drugs, these two drugs. I said, for how long? He said, forever. I didn't know any better, took those medications. They made me worse. I gained. I went from 165 pounds to 245 pounds. I go in every six months, get my scans redone. My lesions were either getting worse or staying the same. Nothing's getting better. Somebody told me I should go to the chiropractor. After about three and a half years, I kind of said, well, what would that do? What would that matter? But in a sense, I had nothing to lose. So I went there and he found pressure in the area of my spine, of the nerves that went to my digestive system. Doesn't work this way for everybody. But this is what Happened to me. Me gave me an adjustment. Now, mind you, I've been doing this for three and a half years, every day taking two drugs and not getting any better. Matter of fact, getting worse. Within one week of those adjustments, I got off the drugs I've been on. I lost 67 pounds in four months. Went two months later, got my scans redone and my lesions were completely healed. It's amazing, but it's not a miracle. You're designed to heal. We had to remove the interferences to that. So a chiropractic approach is going to come through that lens, which I know your body's infinitely intelligent. It, it wants you to heal. It's doing everything it can. When a person's blood pressure is high, it's not the body saying, I know, I want to kill them, I'm going to raise their blood pressure. It's trying to meet the demands of the body to get nutrient oxygen to the tissue cells and get the waste products away. When your body has a fever, it's not going, I know what I'll do. I'll try to kill this kid. No. It's burning off bacteria and viruses and cancer cells. It's amazing. It's one of the most amazing things that is in our bodies. Yet we look at it in fear, right? We're afraid, Mike. This freaks people out. My kids have never had a pharmaceutical drug. They've never had a Tylenol in their life. I don't even own a thermometer. I've never taken my kids temperature. My daughter's 18, my son is 15. People say you're crazy. I said, no, I just have, I trust that they'll. I trust. What am I gonna do that. That wisdom in that body is far better than anything. I have the wisdom of that body. That body knows what temperature that that needs to be far better than I do now. That's it. But some people can't handle that. Like, and I ask them why can't they handle it? The other thing has been, that has just been put into you. The other thing is just that fear has been created in you. And so for people to not understand it. So when I'm looking at the body, we're saying, hey, how are you? You know, how are you feeding yourself? What does that look like? Are you moving your body? Are you getting good rest? How's your spinal line? You know, and then of course there's the toxins and there's the molds. We live in Florida. I learned all about molds after I moved to Florida. From the Midwest, you know, you get the winter kill. You don't have to worry about molds up north. For the most part. You do in Florida up. Right. And so we talk about lifestyle stuff. We talk about, you know, the mindset, the approach. I think that's one of the greatest things, if I can help people understand, is that they are designed to heal. Most people, as crazy as that sounds, most people don't think like that. They live in fear, right? What's wrong with me? What's wrong with me? What's wrong with me? What's wrong with me? And they want to look to man to answer that question. And I don't. I don't operate like that. I don't. I don't believe in giving labels to people. I don't believe in speaking disease over people. I don't believe in just encouraging that fear in them. I believe in just reminding them that they're fearfully, wonderfully made and then removing interferences for their life so their body can heal and function the way that God designed it. Now, that sounds simple. Been doing it 20 years, 21 years, 20,000 patients. I would say that not a day goes by that I don't see what would be considered a miracle, right? People getting off of drugs, people healing people. One of my crazy. I've had a lot of crazy stories. One of my craziest stories was a woman who was on thyroid medication. And she. She told me she wanted. Well, she didn't tell me anything. She just decided to get off of her thyroid medication. She didn't even tell me. Then one day, a few months later, said, hey, Dr. Ben, I just want to tell you that I got off my thyroid medication. I said, oh, that's awesome. You know, congratulations. Way to go. And she said, well, the doctors can't believe it. I said, well, that doesn't surprise me. You know, they. They don't really believe that kind of stuff can happen. She goes, no. He was really surprised. I said, well, is there more to story? She said, well, yeah, I don't have a thyroid. They cut it out years ago, 20 years ago. I said, okay, that is interesting. Her thyroid had regrown itself.
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A
Wow.
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B
So, you know. No, that's an extreme. That's a wild story. My dad had stage four cancer, was given two weeks to live, Picked him up in an airport wearing a diaper. The oncologist. I was on the phone with the oncologist. Oncologist told my dad on the phone with me, your dad has two weeks to live. Go pick out a Casket. That was his words. I said to my dad, does that sound satisfactory to you? He said, no. So I took him to a natural cancer clinic in Mesa, Arizona, called An Oasis of Healing. My dad was cancer free in 21 days. Now, people think that's. That's amazing. It doesn't happen every time. I'm not here to sit here and tell everybody that does what my dad did, lives forever. I'm here to tell people there's a. There's a whole nother world that's available to you and the. And for a lot of people, it's new. Not new because it's wrong, not new because it's bad. It's new because you've never experienced it or seen it, because it's not on tv and you've never gone to the chiropractor or what? I don't even care. I love chiropractic. I'm biased, but, like. Like, if you told me today, Dr. Ben, you can never get adjusted again, but you can understand God's laws of health and healing, and you can know that you're fearfully and wonderfully made. That's what matters. That mindset, that perspective, right mind of Christ, seeing it that way. That's the most power. I love getting adjusted. It's beautiful. I adjust my family, all that stuff. I mean, I love practice. I'll go see a bunch of people today. Like, it's what I do. But my main job is teaching people who made them. I had a. I'll share this one last story, then we can talk some more if you want. But I was driving home one night, and I've never heard the audible voice of God, but I've heard God speak to me. I don't know how you guys roll with it, but. And I was just sitting on right under the I4. And the Lord. The Lord said, you know, Ben, it's. It's great. You know, what you do, you help a lot of people, you know, feel better, whatever, but they're all gonna die. And when they die, the only thing that will matter is if they know me. He said, you talk a lot about healing, but you don't talk a lot about the healer. And that was the day that I decided and committed that I will never talk about healing and not the healer. There is one healer. It is not me. And there is the great physician. And that my job is to point to him. And so from that lens and that perspective, that's how I try to approach health and healing in my office. It's not for Everybody, right? There's some people that can't wrap their heads around, not because they're dumb or anything like that. They just. The world has lied to them too much, right? They've been deceived, They're. They've been white, they're whitewashed. They just don't get it. And I, I have, I have compassion for them and I do my best to teach them. And maybe it's me not being able to help them understand, but, you know, some people just can't go there. There's just too much fear. But I feel like it's my job to do my best to at least reveal that to them.
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C
That's awesome that you got like, you basically got checked at that. Because with this show, I mean, this show is kind of. But it's like we, we often get DMS from people. I mean, maybe a couple times a week, I'd say, at least for me, David, as well, where they're like, hey, you guys have helped help me get closer to God. And I was like, we didn't do anything. Like, we just, we, we do this thing, we talk. We try our best to make it as professional as possible. I want as many people to watch as possible, but, like, I'm not doing anything. What, what's happening here is like, we're giving experiences. We're talking with interesting people that are giving us their experience. And I think that God moves through this show. It's like I don't have much to do with it. I just kind of like, like you. You know, what you can do is you can snap someone's bones in alignment and you're like, well, the rest is God.
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A
Yeah, yeah.
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C
You know, that's.
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A
I think it's because we, we don't set out to do anything, you know, you ever noticed that about the show? Like, we never set out. It's never like, I'm ask somebody this. I'm gonna, like. Other shows will take. And they'll, they'll write down the, the topics and everything that they own. Like, half the time we have no idea what we're going to talk about. We just start talk. The, the. I think the great consistency with this show is pursuit of the truth. That's it. We're just trying to get, you know, a little bit closer to the truth each time.
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C
What do you aim? Like, what is, what is Dr. Ben aimed at? If you're aim, you're aiming your. Your practice towards God, and it feels like everything else will just kind of naturally fall into place.
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A
If that's if that's where you're headed, you know.
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B
Yeah. And there's definitely. Right. There's a. There's like a. When I look back on my life, like, I didn't always practice that way, right? Like, even I. Even though I'd had my own healing, that happened, and I came out full of ego. And I actually failed miserably in practice my first years. Like, I was losing, going bankrupt. Like, I thought this was it. And I had a kind of a breaking point. And it sounds a little cliche, but, I mean, truly, I was like, you know, at the rock bottom. And my wife, man, thank God for a good wife. And she just like, babe, like, just. And again, this will sound so cliche, but she just said, like, honey, like, just tell them the truth, right? Like, you know, you. When you hear that, you always think you are already. Like, it wasn't like I was openly lying, but I was afraid they think of me. I was afraid, you know, about this or that. And I was just like, man, well, I have nothing to lose at this point. And we were rock bottom. And I just decided in that day, too, that I was just going to treat people like. Like the way I would. Like they were my sister or my brother, you know, I mean, like, I'm just gonna, like, make recommendations like, you're my mom or whatever. And I let the cards fall within me because then I could. I could live with myself. And we went from, you know, failing office, losing everything to one of the biggest clinics in America in 18 months. And in a year. It was not a new marketing plan. It wasn't any, you know, buddy saved the day. It was just, you know, I think the lor. To. To break me, break my ego, break my pride, right? And just realize he's the healer. And like you said, I don't think. See, some people think that sounds like a cop out, right? You know, I say, you know, I move the bone, God does the healing. It's like we're trying to shirk responsibility. Like, I'm not trying. Like, I don't want to take the response. It's quite the opposite. I think it's actually just being honest, right? Like. Like, I can't. I can't heal you. I believe that. I mean, God. God can heal people and he may use somebody to do that, but I don't think I'm the healer, okay? I think he's the healer. And so trying to keep myself and people all the time. Oh, Dr. Ben, you healed. I didn't heal you. I stop him every Time I didn't heal you. He healed you. You know, there's a great story in Luke. I think it's Luke, oh, gosh. It's the woman who is bent over. It says she'd been Bent over for 18 years. She's sitting in the back of the synagogue. And I love the story because there's a lot of reasons. One of them, it's Jesus himself and he's teaching, and it says that he sees the woman sitting in the back. So I think, you know, there's these amazing stories of healing in the Bible where, like, you know, the guy calls out from the side or the woman presses through and touches the robe and things like that. Like, those are amazing. But this one is like, it's different. Like, she's sitting in the back, right? Like, you have to imagine it says she'd been Bent over for 18 years. Like, you have to imagine she maybe had given up, that maybe it wasn't going to happen for her, that maybe it was too late. And it says that he sees her, her. And I just, you know, sometimes it's just showing up in that sense. You know, she shows up, she puts herself in that position. He calls her out, she. He brings her up and says the first thing he does is he casts out a spirit of infirmity. And I think that's an important thing for people to remember, because even in healthcare, you know, when's the last time that somebody went to the hospital and they got a spirit of infirmity cast out of them, right? Probably not very often yet. We do that often in my office. All right. I mean, I pray for all of my patients. I lay hands on them and I pray for them. And I don't do that for show. I do that because I don't want to do without it. Like, I. Why would I, Why would I do it? Why would I try to do it without it? And for those people, that, that's really the cause of their problem, and that's going to be the only way, solution. You're not going to be able to eat yourself out of that one. You can't do enough jumping jacks to get rid of the spirit of infirmity. So it says that he cast out the spirit of infirmity first. So dealt with the supernatural, dealt with the spiritual. Then he laid hands on her. And it says that she, she stood upright and she immediately began to praise God. God. And that to me is healthcare, right? You deal with you, you, you, you give God the glory, right? And so, and went through this Process of people and listen, like you said, or we've said today, like, we're all gonna die. This isn't about living forever in the physical side, right? Like, I don't know. And people die from other things other than just heart disease and cancer and side effects of drugs, right? People get hit by cars and fall off of, you know, roofs and drown. Like, this isn't about. I don't, I don't. I also don't believe in making health an idol. You know what I mean? Like, I don't believe, like, I see some of the health world health influencer stuff and it's all about vanity and, you know, biohacking and anti aging. I'm like, no, this isn't. I'm not trying to hack God. I'm not opposed to those things. I'm opposed to those things as idols. I'm opposed if a person thinks I can't be healthy unless I do 86 cold plunges, 900 therapies, 8 million vitamins. Like, again, I not do. I do those things. But it's not, it's not my idol. It's a form of worship to my father and simply saying when I'm, if I'm exercising, I'm not doing it for a six pack. I'm doing it as a form of worship to the God that made me. Now, I know for some people that's a little bit, like, a little bit too much. But I think it's honestly a better perspective. I think it keeps our heart right and keeps us in check and, and I think if people could understand how, how wonderfully God made their body, that a lot of the fear that they have around health would go away. I think that's why, you know, to your question about just like, what goes on in my office, you know, or how do I take care of people? And it's why we have the podcast designed to heal, because some of these conversations take a while, right? Like you gotta, you know, if you're gonna talk about heart disease or diabetes or cancer or autoimmune diseases, you know, I, One of my. I have a doctor that's coming to work for me. And, you know, he, he had Ms. He had Ms. He got diagnosed. He was a D1 athlete playing for Navy, got a bunch of jabs. You know, the military loved the jabs. And so he got a bunch of jabs his first week. Week. Shortly thereafter, half his body gets paralyzed. He. They told him they diagnosed with ms, lesions on his brain and spinal cord. They told him he'd be In a wheelchair in three years, dead in five. He had a very aggressive form. And he came back. They medically discharged him from the Navy. He came back to Florida. I knew his dad. He came to my office. I started taking care of him. He changed his lifestyle. The Lord healed him. He's completely healed. Married, two kids, just finished chiropractic school. Going to come back to my office. I mean, his brain scan, his lesions are gone and cleared. And again, people find that's. That. That's amazing, and it is, but it's. It's just that stuff's not that weird to me. Right. Like, it sounds weird to other people. They tell you, oh, it's Ms. It's chronic. You never get rid of, like. Like, you know, or Lyme disease for your wife. Right. Like. Like, well, don't, you know, don't tell them. She's. Well, you know. I remember one day, this lady. I was doing a seminar, and this lady came up to me afterwards, and she's like, I've worked in the hospital for 30 years, and I've never seen anything like that. And I was like, do you realize how stupid you sound? Like, exactly. You've worked in the hospital for 30 years. I know you haven't seen it because you don't do any of this stuff. Like, what do you expect you're going to see? You mean everybody that comes in, you get pill potions and lotions and then send them out? You don't see people heal and get miracles? Well, yeah, like, you answered your own question, man. Like, I live in a different place here, right? Some people say, oh, you know, I don't see those miracles. I said, do you pray for them? Do you lay hands on them? I've never seen that happen. Really? Have you tried? Like, that's why it's happened to me.
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C
It's as a. As a baby.
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B
I was.
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C
My mom. When my mom was giving birth to me, I had the umbilical cord wrapped around my neck twice, and they were telling her to push. It caused, like, severe damage to my spine in my neck.
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B
Wow.
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C
And all the way up until I was, I don't even know, maybe like five, six, something like that. I would get chronic earaches and, like, ear infections. So they'd be putting drops and I'd be taking, you know, the pink medicine, all that stuff. I mean, until I was. When I say excruciating, it was excruciating. And they brought me to the doctor, and all he could suggest is, you know, here's more antibiotics. They put the earmuffs on and all this kind of regular stuff. And my parents were like, we're gonna try the chiropractor. And the doctor flipped out on them. This dude, he was, he was. At the time, I thought he was a good doctor.
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B
Yeah.
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C
They brought me. Anyway, the guy did adjustments, and I, they, they were saying, like, if I continued on this path, I would be deaf in, I think, my right ear.
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A
It's always such a damning.
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C
It's what said, yeah, like, what's coming is you'll be dead. And honestly, I think that they were right because you can't have that kind of severe pain in your ear without something collapsing or. Who knows? It was, it was crazy. The guy adjusted me for, like, six months or something. I was fine. And the, the doctor, the allelopathic doctor was furious with my parents and had nothing to say when I was fine.
- [77:17]
A
Though, but still mad.
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C
He was furious. He called my mom stupid.
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A
Yeah. That's fascinating.
- [77:21]
C
And I'm. Now, I'm a musician now. So, like, not only do I hear, but I hear really well.
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B
Like, thank God. Like, wow. Thank God.
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A
Yeah. My, my wife, she, like I said, she's a, A licensed massage therapist. She was working at her last job before she didn't have to work anymore, was a chiropractor's office. And that whole, like, approach seems so much better. Like, I, I, I had, I was diagnosed with cancer, and it was, like, the fastest process I had ever been through. They were like, yeah, seems like it's cancer. Don't want to do a biopsy because we don't want to risk it spreading. Let's just cut it off. It was testicular cancer. So I lost a testicle, Just cut it off. Like, next thing I know, the surgery was scheduled. I went in there, I had it done. I never saw the doctor.
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C
If you were wondering why you sound so weird, it's.
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A
After that my voice changed.
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B
Well, it's all making sense. You don't have a testicle. And, and Top was strangled twice. Like, it's all making. It's all making sense.
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A
Yes, yes.
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B
But, like, like, why did I come on this show?
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A
Like, I went through that, that route, right? And I had never really been to the doctor before that. I went years and years, like, comically. So where, like, people would ask me when the last time I went to the doctor, and they'd be like, I don't know, when I was a child, you know? So, like, 15, 16 years. Hadn't gone to the doctor. Found this mass, went. Went through the Whole process. Within a couple of months, it was just done. I just was down a testicle. No longer had cancer, I guess, and just, you know, moved on with my life. But the experience that my wife went through as a practitioner at a chiropractor's office, like, she would tell me all the time, people not only would they love her, like, she had, like, these old patients because we're in Florida, so, you know, it's a lot of. It's kind of the old. Old person central of the world. And. And they became so emotionally attached to her. She would have people weep, like. And I actually didn't like that aspect because I noticed that it was taking a toll on her. Like, she was taking on the baggage of these individuals. But, like, I just couldn't. I couldn't imagine that, because anytime I had been to the doctor, it was so. So sterilized, and it was such a stringent process, in and out. It wasn't like. Like. Like somebody said. I think it was Jin. She was like, wait until they're doing this with AI instead of human beings. If they could do that now, they would. Because the people that you deal with at a doctor's office are like automatons, and they want them. You know, I saw Hicktown Honey in the chat, too, who is also. She's. She's my doctor. When I was going through something recently, she's. I reached out to her. She prescribed, take this much vitamin C. Take this much and do this for a bit. Because I didn't want to go to the doctors and get put on, like, antibiotics and shit like that. It ended up working out. But she was saying that the office that she practices at, she has to be careful what she says. She has to be careful what she recommends. So if they could remove the human element from this process, they would. But then you look at the chiropractor's office, and there's literally, like, human connection galore happening every single day. These people are sobbing. It tells you that there's something else beneath it. These people were in there because they had been in accidents and things like that. But there was a spiritual, emotional component.
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C
When I was going again, my. Like my second stint at the chiropractor more recently, everybody there was like, I'm. I'm from New York, so I'm very suspicious of people that smile. They were like. Like, overly happy, like, the workers. And I was just like, are they. Are they hurting you here? Are they forcing you? And I was like, they're like, no, I'm just Happy to be here. I'm like, look at this, I don't believe you.
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A
Hicktown said it's her own business and she can't because of federal agency agencies, so. Well, thank you. Hicktown is, is my doctor though. Thank you very. It's good to see you, doc. Yeah, I mean one of the town honey that made the recommendations. I always mistribute that there was hipster tactical. My bad. That's right, you're my doctor too, Hicktown.
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B
One of the things I, I try to remind people too, just to kind of put a little bit of the bow on this because I think sometimes, at least in America I would. And there's. You guys probably know a lot about this, but for people that are kind of learning a little bit today, the part that would answer a lot of the modern medicine, I mean you guys talked about some of the old stuff, spiritual stuff, which I think is super real, but the modern medical there really is what we call Rockefeller medicine. Right. We won't go into all those, you know, your Flexner reports, but that's really when it all changed significantly. So much of what we're operating in today is rooted in, at least in the modern, you know, 1910 on kind of thing is what was called Rockefeller medicine. That's when you just saw petroleum based chemicals and pharmaceuticals as we know it really gets, get, get used and distributed. And then of course, like you said, one of you said earlier, all the money involved in that. And so there is a, there is a bit of a, of a. That's, that's really what's destroyed a lot of, of what I think could be an amazing, you know, profession, I. E. Health care. Right. I think there's, you know, important opportunity there. But so people are like, is this really it? I mean, Rockefeller medicine. Just doing a cursor in the Flexner report, looking at what happened there will help explain to you a lot of how we ended up, at least in the modern era of healthcare. I just want to mention that for your listeners. Listener.
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A
Yeah, it's, I mean just, just going back to what I was talking about before this. You know, if it is a modern Rockefeller era of medicine, it is void of, you know, if the Bible says, you know, lay hands and you can, you can heal. We're, we're trying to do it as impersonal as possible. We don't want to touch you, we don't want to have empathy. We want to just put you through the grinder, the machine, you know what I mean? We want to Try to have as least amount of physical contact. We don't even want to hear. You know, that's the other thing, too, is like, when I went through that process and, and, you know, it's like, oh, it turns out I have cancer. No mention, not a single utterance of my, you know, health and nutrition, my habits, the things that I'm subjected to on a regular basis. Like, no mention of that whatsoever. It was just, yeah, this thing is here. It's like, God forbid you should go, okay, it seems that you have some form of cancer. We should explore what you're eating, what you're exposed to on a daily basis, any of these things, you know, for fear of it happening again. Because just cutting it out of you doesn't mean that you won't be subjected to the same elements that caused it in the first place. None of that at all. And so it's. It is, it's the, it's the, it's the worst version that you could possibly have.
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B
And I think with AI, I mean, I, I have deep concerns over it, as I'm sure you guys do, but from a healthcare perspective, I think it really is the beginning of, of the end. And. Because, you know, like, how do you sue AI? Right. I think you're right that they could flip that switch tomorrow and just say, well, you know, the, the algorithm told us to do it. Right. And there's no person behind that. And I think that from the litigation standpoint, I mean, yeah, I think, I think you will see very, very quickly as soon as. I mean, there's already some things that are happening, but that's going to be. It'll just be an algorithm of most medical care based on your biometrics that they're capturing through your watch or your ring or your phone or however people, however it goes down. That's why I don't wear any of that stuff. I don't wear any biometric screening. I don't. I don't. I don't have any of that stuff, mostly because I don't know where it goes. Right, right. And I don't want that in somebody else's hands. You know, like you always joking. You said you don't go doctor. I've been to the doctor in 25 years and I'm a doctor. Right. Like, I don't. They don't have anything I'm interested in. It's.
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A
You know, I'm actually frustrated right now because my son is home. He's a little under the weather. He's. He's actually not been sick for a few years now that we moved to, to Florida, but he's a little under the weather. He's been home for two days. And I've just been letting him go through it. You know, he was running like a little bit of a fever. We didn't do anything about it because it wasn't that serious. And I do think, like, obviously the body's turning the temperature up for a reason. And, and if you interrupt that process, you're just going to prolong it, you're going to elongate the entire process because it has to go through it, it seems. And, and now we're getting messages from the school where it's like, you know, please bring him back. And I know that obviously they're going to allow him back, but they want a doctor's note. And I'm like, why do I even need to go to the doctor? He's just got a fever. He's 10 years old. He, he ran himself crazy at church. They had a, like a, a swimming, not a swimming day, but like a. They had inflatable water rides that they brought to the church and he went crazy and, you know, I guess over exerted himself, got a little under the weather. And so he's been down and out for the, for the weekend. But in order to get him back to school with no problems, I got to bring him to, to the doctor. And it's just like, for what?
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B
It's a kid with a fever get the blessing from the high priest that says, you're welcome.
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A
I'm like, it's so annoying.
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B
I always laugh. You know what's funny about that? Two things too. One would be, you're exactly right. Just give you the data on the, on the fever. So there's studies that show when you artificially reduce a fever, like with, you know, an antipyretic or Tylenol or something, it does exactly what you said. It actually makes it, it drives it in deeper, right, because it's not getting exposed. And it actually increases hospitalizations and increases things like pneumonia because it's not able to, you know, run its courses as fast and of course doesn't happen every time, but that's what the study showed. But then also I always laugh. I know a lot of people that, you know, like daycare and stuff like that, and they'll say if the kid has a fever, they'll. It's so funny to me. They'll say, then you have to give them like the Tylenol and if they lower their fever, then they. Then they can come to class and I think, are you guys idiots? Like, like, that's like. So do you think by lowering the fever you've, like, like their sickness is gone? Like, are you. Are you. Are you in la la, Right? Like. Like, let. Like, you're doing what you got to do. Like you said, let the kid lay home and rest. Do what the body's telling to do, which is lay on the couch and veg out and snuggle.
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C
Mom, what do you mean? Ben, we've printed trillions of dollars. Clearly our economy is much better.
- [86:35]
A
Like, yeah, exactly.
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C
What are you retarded?
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A
You know how great it is? I mean, he's sick.
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B
I told you, I'm not a real doctor. That's right.
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A
He's. He's been sick, and that just means he's been quiet for two days. So honestly, it's been. It's been awesome having him home. He's just relaxing. You know, he slept a lot, but it's like, what am I supposed to do? Give him water, make sure he's hydrated? If he. If I can get him to eat something, then, you know, he'll eat. If he's not hungry and he's tired. All right, go back to sleep. You know, whatever your body's calling you to do, if it's calling you to fall asleep over and over again, like, yeah, probably rest for as long as you possibly can and we'll see where you're at. But now I have to, yeah, like you said, go to the high priest. I have to get it in writing. You know, I have to prove to the system that my kid wasn't. Was sick. God forbid I even wanted to take just some time off, you know, break him out of the. The. You know.
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B
Yeah, I guess next time don't tell them they're sick. I guess just tell them whatever. I didn't. We've always homeschooled, so I don't even know some of those that were.
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A
But, yeah, no, it's called an unexcused.
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C
Yeah, I can't relate. I can't relate to that either.
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A
Well, here, let me. Let me tell you what happens. Too many unexcused absences in a quarter will lead to somebody knocking on your door called a truancy officer, and they're going to go, hey, you haven't been taking your child to. To Rothschild Re Education camp.
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B
Yeah.
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C
To the public indoctrination.
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A
Yes, it's public indoctrination system, and that's not allowed. And so you're going to get a fine or worse, we're going to put you in jail because you didn't follow the rules. You didn't follow the rules. So, yeah, it's, it's, it's a lot of fun. Truancy is, is, is an interesting concept. I love that. Where it's like, hey, you didn't come to this thing that you pay tax dollars to fund, and, and therefore you're, you're, you're in trouble. Look, Doc, I want to respect your time. We're coming up on the hour and a half mark, and I know you have to lay hands on people today. So before we go. Actually, you know what? We didn't ask last time to Wesley. I would like to ask Dr. Ra. Dr. Ra. Are you having fun?
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B
Yeah, I, I, I, I can't. You know, I've been doing this 21 years and I, you know, matter of fact, it was a few weeks ago, a month ago, we went on a cruise, my wife and I, Alaskan cruise. And it was beautiful and it was wonderful and all those things. But like, I do best when I am doing what I feel like I'm called to do. And that's probably the, the, the, the, the, the best time I had was during COVID Even though it was insane and the world was crazy, but it was like, it was like I was so alive because every day I had people that would call my office, tell me I was killing people. People would walk into my office, open up my door and scream at me. Like, I was like, But I'm like, I'm a, I don't know if, you know, like the enneagrams, like that different personality thing, right? So I'm an eight. That's a challenger. Like, I grew up boxing. Like, I'm built for this. Like, I, I, I'm a, I'm a warrior. I fight for people. And so like, I love this, right? So like every day people are coming in, they get lied to. I get to combat those lies, pray for them, love on them, encourage them, right? And watch them heal and have victory. So like, I, I tell people this, I'm not good at much, like, but, but I'm built for that. And so that's where I'm at my best. I, I, I can't imagine. I was out of practice shortly. I'd sold my office in South Dakota at one point, and I, I moved to Florida. I was helping, I was consulting doc, like with doctors, right? Like helping them run their offices. And I just, I couldn't, I was like dying inside Right. Because I was just like, my job wasn't to, you know, help doctors make more money. My job was to help, you know, sick people get well. And so I got, you know, back into practice. And, and you know, that was another. That was almost ten years ago now. Again. So I get, you know, it's just, you know, even though I have a lot of these other doctor friends and like, oh, you know, you should like, you know, just. Just get your office to run itself and then you hire doctors. I'm like, I'm not good at much. Like, I, like, I'm like, why, why would I stop? Like, this is what I'm called to do now. I know that's different for everybody, but just to answer your question, like, I'm pretty much just chomping at the bit most of. Most of my day.
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A
You know what's really funny? I love the pathway from like, like laying hands to like, laying hands. Like, that's, that's, that's an interesting. You're like, I know I'm supposed to do something with these.
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C
I bet he's like, every so often someone comes in his office. Like, I wish he would.
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A
I wish you would. Well, listen, you guys are awesome. An awesome conversation, man. I really appreciate it.
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C
Encouraging too, man. It's not a single. I don't think maybe not one person so far. We always ask, are you having fun? And we always get yes. And we always get a different, like a slightly different answer.
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A
My favorite question to ask people because I think there's like these, you know, information driven responses are one thing, but like, we're asking almost like a question of the spirit, you know what I mean?
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C
And we're also asking people who are on their. They're on their path, like, yeah, yes, Dr. Ben is on his path. He's in the right spot. Like, you've been put in the spot and this is where you thrive. Like when covet happened, it was like sink or swim for most people. A lot of people sunk, but a lot of people swim. There's really nobody in the middle. Everyone's like, you know, it's. It's up or down, and you found your path, man. It's. I think we just happen to continue to talk to people like that and it's encouraging.
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A
Yeah, I, I think we're only gonna.
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C
Find if you hope these losers in the chat figure out their way.
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A
I know.
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B
Yeah. Yeah.
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A
Well, I mean, you know, I think everybody will. But one more time before we get out of here, Dr. Raul. Where can everybody find your work? Where can they find your podcast? Where can they find your practice?
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B
Yeah, so the podcast is probably just the best for listeners. So that's just designed to heal. That's that. I think we're on Instagram designed to heal podcast. And then my website, drbenrall.com that's where my books are. And there's just a little bit of information on there. And then our clinic happens to be in Orlando, Florida. So those people that are in that area that are looking for. For help, that's. That's that. And then the books can be bought, you know, pretty much on Amazon and all those things. But, yeah, I mean, I. I've always. One of my principles in my office is that I believe. To your point, I believe that everybody, you know, has a divine purpose and will treat them as such. And so whoever's listening to this or you guys, I mean, just. I got introduced to you through, you know, one of our mutual friends. And I was watching, I was like, man, these are guys, number one. They're fearless. They ask great. They ask great questions. And, you know, we just need more of that. More people that are. Are doing what you guys are doing. So I was honored to be on here. I hope that it's helpful for your listeners. I had fun. So please. Everybody else does as well. But thank you guys and just bless your work and what you're doing, your families, your kiddos, and yeah, hopefully we stay in touch.
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C
Thank you. Yeah, we're gonna. We'll. I'll let Matt know you said what's up? Unless you don't want me to, so.
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A
I understand. Yeah.
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B
Yeah. So I can't hear you. I think you're muted. I don't know if you're muted.
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C
Oh, no. What happened?
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A
Oh, that's strange.
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B
Yeah.
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C
How about now? Can you hear me now? No.
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A
Nope.
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C
All right, well, let's. Let's bring it. We're gonna wrap it up Anyway. Thank you, Dr. Ben. Guys, until a couple of minutes. Don't forget to obey, submit and comply.
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B
The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a problem box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. You can persuade that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see, because they'll think face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture. And they have.