213: Nebuchadnezzar’s Sasquatch? Daniel 4 Explained w/ Matt Hepner of The Standard Coffee Shop

Summary

Nephilim Death Squad

Episode 213: Nebuchadnezzar’s Sasquatch? Daniel 4 Explained with Matt Hepner of The Standard Coffee Shop
Date: September 13, 2025
Host: David Lee Corbo ("Raven"), TopLobsta Productions
Guest: Matthew Hepner (The Standard Coffee Shop)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, hosts David Lee Corbo (a.k.a. "Raven") and company are joined by recurring guest Matthew Hepner for an in-depth, high-energy Bible study through Daniel Chapter 4—famously featuring King Nebuchadnezzar’s bout with madness and his supposed transformation into a “Sasquatch”-like beast. The trio seamlessly weaves Biblical exegesis with conspiracy theory references, ancient tech rabbit holes, cultural commentary, and their signature irreverent banter. Matt’s direct, “straight Bible” approach is a grounding force in a discussion that moves from scripture to speculation and back again.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Recap and Setup: From the Furnace to the Forest

[05:54 - 07:30]

• Matthew reminds listeners they're continuing their Book of Daniel study, picking up after the fiery furnace episode (Daniel 3).
• Key Idea: True impact in society—Biblically speaking—is usually preceded by significant trials (e.g., being thrown into the furnace). “You want to have an impact? You have to get ready for the fiery furnace.” — Matthew [06:25]

2. Nebuchadnezzar’s Dream & The Giant Tree

[08:15 - 15:15]

• The group reads Daniel 4, where Nebuchadnezzar dreams of a colossal tree that shelters beasts and birds, linking this to conspiracy lore about ancient “tree mountains” (e.g., Devil’s Tower).
• Matthew clarifies: “He sees this tree. It’s gigantic… a watcher and a holy one came down from heaven.”
• Discussion of “watchers” and “holy ones”—are these the same entity? Fallen angels, archangels, or mythic gods?
• Speculation on ancient technology, Vimanas, Babylonian and Indian mythos as possibly referenced or paralleled in the text.

3. Interpretations: Tree as Kingdom & Prophetic Symbolism

[16:18 - 24:00]

• David asks about the motif of the tree being cut down but the stump (with band of iron/brass) remaining. Matt links this to the succession of empires in Daniel’s statue (Babylon, Greece, Rome).
• They connect the watcher’s decree (to humble Nebuchadnezzar) to the continuing Biblical theme that God alone appoints rulers:
  • “The most high rules in the kingdom of men, and gives it to whomsoever he will, and sets up over it the basest of men.” — [24:00]
• Contemporary parallel: Leaders today think they’re “big shots,” but God can humble anyone.

4. The Curse: From King to Beast/Sasquatch

[24:46 - 25:33+36:05]

• The show’s namesake segment. Nebuchadnezzar is condemned to lose his reason, live as a beast “with the heart of an animal”—hence the Sasquatch riff.
• Matt is cautious but finds the metaphor potent: “It’s rad to say you got turned into a Sasquatch. I don’t really know… But something in him got changed, bro. From human nature to animal nature.”
• Sidebar: Speculations on spirit/soul, “beast spirit” in Nephilim lore, and how these arcs become cultural archetypes—e.g., Beauty and the Beast.

5. Conspiracies, Ancient Tech & Biblical Patterns

[17:15 - 23:40]

• The crew frequently connects Daniel’s visions, ancient tech, Biblical archetypes, and conspiracy culture:
  • Vimanas, flying ships, mermaids, lion- and fish-headed men, and ancient Egyptian legends (pyramids as temples to Yahweh).
  • Matt: “There’s so much going on in the unseen realm.”

6. Repentance and Restoration

[39:31 - 50:02]

• Nebuchadnezzar, after a year, ignores Daniel’s warning and boasts about his own glory. Instantly, the curse falls:
  • “At the end of 12 months”…he’s struck down, living as a beast for "seven times" (years) [40:41].
• After the period as beast, Nebuchadnezzar repents, his reason returns, and his kingdom is restored:
  • “At the end of days, I, Nebuchadnezzar, lifted up my eyes into heaven and my understanding returned unto me…” [49:18]
• Discussion: Only through humility and recognition of God’s sovereignty is restoration possible.

7. Kingdoms Rise and Fall: Prophetic Timeline Continues

[75:36 - 79:11]

• After Nebuchadnezzar, his son Belshazzar (sounding like Daniel’s nickname Belteshazzar—another nod to patterns and possible homage) blasphemes by drinking from sacred temple vessels, triggering the handwriting-on-the-wall event (“mene, mene, tekel, parsin”).
• Daniel interprets: The king’s days are numbered, kingdom will be given to the Medes and Persians—fulfilled that very night.
• Pattern: A new king repeats old mistakes—ignoring the wisdom and warnings of the past.

8. Lessons for Today & “Living the Kingdom”

[61:06 - End]

• Discussions shift to modern parallels—parenting, work ethic, economic trends (“You’ll own nothing and be happy”), and American church culture.
• Strong push for authenticity: Don’t just hear, but apply the Word. “You gotta read a Bible and you gotta read it on a regular basis. And you gotta apply it to your life.” — Matt [129:50]
• Valuing unglamorous, unseen service: “Ministry is… the toilet paper. Nobody sees, nobody knows. She loves God with all her heart, mind, soul, and strength.”—Matthew on unnoticed acts in church [97:04]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Impact Requires Trial

• “You start praying to God like, yeah, I want to have an impact. You got to get ready for the fiery furnace.” —Matthew [06:25]

Ancient Tech & Myth

• "There’s a lot going on in the unseen realm. I saw in the visions of my head upon my bed. And behold, a watcher and a holy one came down from heaven.” —Matthew [15:10]
• "Every continent has this… everybody on the planet has these, like, myths and legends of this.” —Matthew [18:23]

Humbling the Mighty

• “God just allowed you into this role, bro. Yeah, nobody’s a big shot.” —Matthew [39:24]

Repentance Restores

• “At the end of days, I, Nebuchadnezzar, lifted up my eyes into heaven and my understanding returned unto me. And I blessed the Most High…” —Nebuchadnezzar read by Matthew [49:18]

Modern Parallels

• “You know, a tithe is more useful… what could you help with?” —Unnamed Co-host [99:01]
• “If you want to do something, you just do it. We’re with the creator of the universe, right?” —Matthew [68:28]

On flashy church or shallow faith:

• "Our kingdom is one that… isn’t flashy…the gold, silver, precious stones are the things nobody sees.” —Matthew [94:03]

On True Ministry

• “She loved the Lord and did it in private and maybe her knees hurt while she did it. She said, ‘Lord, I’m doing this for you, because I love you.’ That’s our kingdom.” —Matthew [96:33]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• Intro & Recap [05:54 – 07:56]
• Nebuchadnezzar’s Dream [08:15 – 15:07]
• Watchers and Ancient Tech [15:10 – 18:28]
• Meaning of the Tree/Stump [16:18 – 17:15]
• Becoming a "Beast" / Sasquatch [24:46 – 25:33], [36:05+]
• Beauty & The Beast, Archetypes [27:10]
• Humility and Repentance [40:31 – 50:02]
• Parenting, Modern Church, and Responsibility [61:06 – 67:50]
• Writing on the Wall & Babylon's Fall [75:36 – 79:11]
• Reflections on Applying Faith [89:06 – End]
• Valuing Hidden Service in Church [96:02 – 99:10]
• Closing Thoughts—Live What You Know [129:50 – End]

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Style & Tone

• Language/Tone: Casual, irreverent, at times crude; filled with deep dives, asides, and self-deprecating humor
• Exhortative: Matt frequently draws practical applications and directly encourages listeners to pursue personal study and real-life application of scripture
• Banter: Plenty of teasing among hosts and guest, audience shoutouts, and references to live chat

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Final Takeaways

• Biblical patterns repeat: Whether in ancient or modern times—the cycle of pride, warning, fall, repentance, and restoration is perennial.
• True impact requires humility and willingness to serve in unglamorous, unseen ways.
• Modernity provides new “Babylons” (idolatry, distractions, tech, politics), but the calling is the same: pursue intimacy with God and live it out.
• The supernatural, the conspiratorial, and the historical are not at odds with scripture but can coexist as part of God’s mysterious working.
• Scripture is meant for living, not just knowing. Apply it. “Go hard forever.”

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“You gotta read a Bible and you gotta read it on a regular basis. And you gotta apply it to your life… you cultivate your spirit the same way you cultivate your natural man.” —Matthew [129:50]

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Next time: Continuation of Daniel (chapter 6 and beyond); the lions’ den and further Babylon-Medo-Persian succession.

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(End of summary)

Transcript

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[Matthew]

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Matthew]

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Matthew]

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[David Lee Corbo]

Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

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[David Lee Corbo]

We are super late. Welcome back to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven that is the father of disinformation. Are we going to pay all this, this stuff, these things?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Matthew]

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Matthew]

Okay.

[David Lee Corbo]

Joining us once again for the continuation of the Bible study study, specifically the Book of Daniel, it is Matthew. Round of applause for Matthew.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Came back, man. I can't believe he came back.

[David Lee Corbo]

He came back and we're not sitting at that long stupid table anymore, which is nice we got Matthew his own spot. Look at that.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

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[David Lee Corbo]

Is that something different? The Standard Coffee. Matthew is the owner over at the Standard Coffee Shop. And I got to admit, people really like you. And you know what? I don't like that.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I get. I understand why. I don't understand why people like David.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't like that. I don't like that we have somebody on and people go like, man, I really like that guy. And I. You know why? Because I feel threatened, Matthew.

[Matthew]

I'm just straight Bible.

[David Lee Corbo]

I know that. But it's very threatening.

[Matthew]

People love the Bible.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, people don't love me. They're saying that I'm fat, and that's upsetting.

[Matthew]

I was seeing that, too.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

And what do you think about.

[Matthew]

I wasn't going to say anything about that.

[David Lee Corbo]

What do you mean? You didn't want to say anything about the chat, or you didn't want to say anything about me putting on either one.

[Matthew]

This chat is, like, out of control.

[David Lee Corbo]

They're terrible people.

[Matthew]

You can make a show out of just filming the chat. Really?

[David Lee Corbo]

I'd rather not give them that much attention. I'm very.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

They're saying nice stuff.

[David Lee Corbo]

They. They say nice things. That's crazy about you.

[Matthew]

They don't know me that good.

[David Lee Corbo]

They say, really rude.

[Matthew]

Wait, can I just go straight into it, or. No, we got to do more announcements.

[David Lee Corbo]

I guess we have to talk about. Where did we leave off last. Last time? Let's give a little recap.

[Matthew]

So it was Daniel 3 is where we finished. Shadra Meach and Abedigo got thrown in the fiery furnace. And, you know, I think it does matter to say, how did this all get set up? Because I think sometimes people. They want to be used by God. Like in acts, it says that David served his generation well in the will of God. And so sometimes people pray and pray and pray. They're like, lord, I want to get used in my generation. I want to be somebody. Like, I want to have an impact on the culture. I want to have an impact on the society. Like, I don't want my life to be meaningless. I don't want to sit on the bench.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

And who knows how long these dudes prayed that prayer, right? They were praying, saying, God, use us. We're in Babylon. Like, they're eating foods sacrificed to idols. There's sexual perversion. I'm sure they have, like, the child trafficking and Epstein stuff of their day, too. And they're saying, I just want to have an impact. And who knows how long that went on until God said, yeah, yeah, I'll answer that prayer. But you all are getting thrown in the fiery furnace to do it. Like, that's how we're gonna do it. And people don't understand that as, like, I'm not saying you have no impact on society if you just don't say cuss words and eat chick fil a and have a Z88 Happy Hits bumper sticker. I'm just saying you won't have much of an impact. Right. But you start praying to God like, yeah, I want to have an impact. You got to get ready for the fiery furnace. That's what I'm saying. You know, wait till we see the impact this has. But that only happened because they got thrown in the fiery furnace. It wasn't sweet, lovely things.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right, Right. I was trying to give my wife, like, a, like a 10,000 foot overview of our book of Daniel study. And I think I, I focus too much on Nebuchadnezzar's insistence on reducing people's house to poop was something that I kept bringing.

[Matthew]

You were really into that.

[David Lee Corbo]

I was really into it. Well, because it's just a funny way of, you know, I guess everybody's got their thing that they do, and Nebuchadnezzar turns your house to poop if you, if you cross him. If you don't bow down to his idols when the music pops off, when they start playing the sack butt and things like that. So I, I got to admit, I know it's a small book, but I, I've never gone through it before. The Book of Daniel is really fascinating. So let's, let's pick up where we left off and, and, and let's, let's get through this.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Let's get into it. I hope I didn't mislabel this episode.

[Matthew]

What'd you label it?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Nebuchadnezzar's Sasquatch.

[Matthew]

We'll get to that. Maybe.

[David Lee Corbo]

All right, well, that was what we were told. We were told seven years of Sasquatch was, Was.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

What we were promised.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

So there you go.

[Matthew]

It's coming.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, check that out.

[Matthew]

Yeah. Okay, you ready?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah. Let's get into.

[Matthew]

Okay, so, so at. Remember, he's the tough guy. He says, if you guys don't bow to my statue, I'm throwing you in the fiery furnace.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right.

[Matthew]

Watch how this changes. Because it's like a common thing in this book is where they go from, like, they're gonna punk the real men of God to, like, they just got punked.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Right.

[Matthew]

Like, now they're in line. They're like, okay, never mind, guys. We didn't mean that. So Nebuchadnezzar the king. We're in verse one in chapter four. Nebuchadnezzar the king. Unto all people, nations and languages that dwell on all the earth, peace be multiplied unto you. I thought it good to show the signs and wonders that the high God hath wrought towards me. How great are his signs and how mighty are his wonders. His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and his dominion is from generation to generation. I, Nebuchadnezzar, was at rest in my house, and flourishing in my palace, I saw a dream which made me afraid. And the thoughts upon my bed and the visions in my head troubled me. Therefore made I a decree to bring in all the wise men of Babylon before me that they might make known unto me the interpretation of the dream. Then came in the magicians, the astrologers, the Chaldeans, and the soothsayers. And I told the dream before them, but they did not make known unto me the interpretation thereof. But at the last, Daniel came in before me, which we should know. He should have been first. Right? Because remember, he already said him and his boys were 10 times better than everybody else. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Refresh my memory. Did he say that? So he said that before Daniel interpreted the dream.

[Matthew]

The first one. Yeah, Chapter one. He says that about Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego. They're 10 times better than all the astrologers, soothsayers, Chaldeans, astrologers, everybody. Magicians. So you already knew that. Right. But that's what I'm saying is, like, time goes on. Time goes on. Who knows how long it was between, like, he's busy.

[David Lee Corbo]

Like, I know we make fun of Nebuchadnezzar. Rightfully so.

[Matthew]

Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

But like, you imagine, like, maybe he's just really busy in the source of, like being a king and then kind of forgets like, oh, yeah, these dudes. These dudes crushed. I was wasting my time with these other dudes.

[Matthew]

He probably got busy with the things that don't matter. Think of all the things in our news cycle that get talked about all the time.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

That have nothing to do with the eternal story.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

He's got a source. All this dung.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

The burying of this is like a full time ballad. I mean, listen, let's. Let's break the third, fourth wall. I keep.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's one of the walls.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

One of the walls.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah. But Matt wasn't even supposed to make it here today.

[David Lee Corbo]

He wasn't I didn't even know that.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

You didn't know. I didn't tell you because I don't tell me anything. I don't panic. Corbo's Cobra was panicked.

[Matthew]

You didn't even know. Then you came in and I was like, yeah, I'm gonna make it.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

No, I knew.

[David Lee Corbo]

I panic.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Well, I didn't know.

[Matthew]

Right?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

But you texted me in the morning. He said somebody called out.

[Matthew]

Just a heads up.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Just a heads up.

[Matthew]

Someone called out, shout out to Harry. Can I do that on the show?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matthew]

Harry covered, man. Harry came in and covered. I was like, bro, I gotta do the show at 11, maybe 11:45, depending on how the boys are feeling today. But I gotta get there. If you could come in and cover for me, I can make it to.

[David Lee Corbo]

The show right now. He's gonna be here any minute now. It's only gonna be about an hour.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

He said that they'd start at 11, and it's been 45 minutes.

[Matthew]

No, Harry did solid. He did solid.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah, yeah, so he did. I was like. I was like, damn, Matt's not gonna make it here. We. We did this backdrop. We did this whole thing, and we.

[David Lee Corbo]

Set up this whole thing.

[Matthew]

I love the whole setup.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

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[Matthew]

Yeah, yeah, we're working on it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Very cool.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

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[David Lee Corbo]

Do you know any machinists? Local machinist, by the way, other than, you know. Okay.

[Matthew]

Maybe we can talk about it later.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Okay.

[Matthew]

Okay. So we're in. So we're in.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

The point is that. Yeah, Matt wasn't even supposed to be here. But, like, things, they fall apart. They come back together. We're back together.

[Matthew]

We're doing this.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I'm very excited. I'm happy.

[Matthew]

No, if you're around to preach the gospel, like, God's just going to provide a way. He's just going to make a path.

[David Lee Corbo]

Touche.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Sometimes it's Harry, sometimes Harry came through, bro.

[David Lee Corbo]

Shout out Harry.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Perfect. Perfect. All right, let's. Let's get back into it.

[Matthew]

Okay. So, yeah, so he's already interpreted the one dream that, Remember, Nebuchadnezzar wouldn't even tell them what the dream was. You had Nebuchadnezzar, what the dream was, and the interpretation. So he's already done that.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's such a Crazy move.

[Matthew]

So this time he's like, yo, I. I have the. I already know the dream. I'll tell you the dream. I just need the interpretation. So at the last, Daniel came in before me. This is verse eight. Whose name was Belteshazar, according to the name of my God, and in whom is the spirit of the holy gods.

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[Matthew]

Oh, lowercase g, Gods.

[David Lee Corbo]

Interesting.

[Matthew]

And before him I told the dream, saying, oh, Belteshazar, master of the magicians, because I know that the spirit of the holy gods, lowercase g gods, is in thee, and no secret troubles you. Tell me the visions of my dream that I have seen in the interpretation thereof. Thus were the visions in my head, in my bed, I saw and behold a tree in the midst of the earth. And the height thereof was great, and the tree grew and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven in the sight thereof to the end of all the earth, the leaves thereof were fair, and the fruit thereof much, and in it was meat. For all the beasts of the field had shadow under it, and the fowls of the heaven dwelt in the bows thereof, and all flesh was fed of it. Have you guys seen these? It's like in the conspiracy theory circles where there's these mountains that are clearly like gigantic trees. They're like a mile wide.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah, I forget. One of them is called, like, the Devil's something or another. And it's like a gigantic platform that's.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Like, flattened at the top.

[Matthew]

And you guys get the guy. I'm the improbable dreamer, I think his name is.

[David Lee Corbo]

We've actually been recommended to have him on several.

[Matthew]

That guy's legit, bro.

[David Lee Corbo]

We've made no action.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

You know what I find real cute? It's like when, like, fans of the show or friends, they're like, can you guys just get.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

And we're like, yeah. Oh. Someone was like, get AJ Styles on Shout Out. Milk is Dogs. And I was like, it's really not that.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's like one of the.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

He's like a professional. Big professional wrestler. But I'm like, it's. It's harder than you think. A lot of these people give us a cold shoulder. Oh, really?

[Matthew]

Oh, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I mean, you know, reach out. We have a way with people.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's even worse. They'll never.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, they definitely don't. He stands much more of a chance of getting people on.

[Matthew]

Okay, so he sees this tree. It's gigantic.

[David Lee Corbo]

Gigantic tree.

[Matthew]

I saw in the visions in my head upon my bed. And behold, a watcher and a holy one came down from heaven.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

A watcher and a holy one?

[Matthew]

Yeah. That's probably a trigger word for a lot of people in the chat.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Well, no, because a watcher is a. That's like a job title. But does that mean that there are two different types? A watcher and a holy one?

[Matthew]

No, I think it's describing the same being I think would be my take of it.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Interesting.

[Matthew]

This is like one of the holy gods, like one of the lowercase g gods.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right.

[Matthew]

There's a lot going on in the unseen realm. I don't know. You start to define, like, lowercase she. Gods. Fallen angels. Not fallen angels. Archangels, disembodied watchers. That's a whole other deal. I mean, there's a lot. There's a lot going on in the unseen. I saw in the visions of my head upon my bed. And behold, a watcher and a holy one came down from heaven. He cried aloud and said thus, hoe down the tree and cut off his branches. Shake off his leaves and scatter his fruit. Let the beast get away from under it and the fowls from his branches nevertheless. Leave the stump of his roots in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass and the tender grass of the field, and let it be wet with dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts in the grass of the earth.

[David Lee Corbo]

That is a kind of a difficult passage to unpack. The language is. Is dense. I mean, it seems like he's calling for this tree to be destroyed. Right. I mean, there you go. Well, you pulled it off the screen. I was reading that.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Sorry.

[Matthew]

Yeah, but it's. But it's. It's intriguing to be. To be destroyed and cut down, but that the root stays there.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

And then it's intriguing that he's wrapped up in, what, iron and brass.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, that's what I don't understand. Because if you go, the roots stay there. I go, oh, yeah, that Devil's Plateau thing or whatever the hell it's called.

[Matthew]

Well, some also might interpret this, though. The brass would have been Greece. Remember the statue we just read.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right, right.

[Matthew]

And then the iron would have been Rome. So almost like Greece and Rome, like, held Babylon in check. Right, right. Almost like. Yeah, it's still, like Babylon's still there, but it's just, like, held in check.

[David Lee Corbo]

Interesting.

[Matthew]

I don't know. That could get into some weird stuff that I'm not necessarily, like, have a conclusion on, but that.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

That's, like, most of this stuff. I mean, we.

[David Lee Corbo]

We.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

We just had on the whole show exact. I'm. Now I'm reading this through a different. Like a slightly different lens. We had on the Sky Kingdom in context.

[David Lee Corbo]

Great episodes. Great episodes.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah. And he's kind of, like going through ancient Babylon with us and what was actually available to them as far as technology and some of the things that, like, he's describing. And it's not just, like, what he surmises, but it's what's written about. There's, like, blueprints and architects, like, things called vimanas that they're flying around with.

[David Lee Corbo]

Like, entire ancient India has a lot of these.

[Matthew]

That's Indian.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah. So if you look at their texts and even their, like, designs, they go into depth on how these things flew and how they were mobile. And a lot of it is, like, red Mercury is the fuel source and all these different things. But they actually break it down to such an extent where you go, like, this seems feasible. And they're describing all kinds of things from, like, flying craft to, like, flying cities. And.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

And they're in their depiction in some of, like, the drawings that they're making, they're depicting these ancient gods. So this is not beyond the pale of what he's seeing. He's like, oh, yeah, do. It's a watcher and a holy one. And they came from the heavens, like.

[Matthew]

Which is in, like, every continent has this.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yes.

[Matthew]

Every. Everybody on the planet has these, like, myths and legends of this.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

And these, These. This kind of technology was given to, like, the upper echelon of the. Of these societies, so kings. So Nebuchadnezzar would be the one that would be approached. So it's. It's crazy that, like, it's not just documented in historical record, and this is like, Harvard, Stanford research, but it's also documented in the Bible.

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[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

And we don't, like, put those two things together.

[Matthew]

We just are arrogant and think that we're so advanced. It's like, imagine if, like, yeah, if an entity from the unseen realm showed up and was like, hey, show us your great ones on the Earth. We're like, yeah, there's this guy called Mark Zuckerberger. They be like, oh, cool, what did he do? Like, yeah, he set up this thing so everybody can gossip. I'm like, we have this thing. Like, when I was a kid, I was told you're not allowed to, like, look at the tabloids because it's just people's like, dirt, you know, it's just people's, like, gossip and stuff. Like, yeah, you don't. Nobody. Nobody watches that. Now we have tabloids for everybody on the planet. You just watch everybody's junk.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

This is a tabloid for the Watchers.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, that's exactly. Yeah, we're keeping you Know what I mean?

[Matthew]

But we're like, oh yeah, we're so advanced. Like really? How?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, well, I love that notion where you go like, hey, the ancients, like the ancient, they made up a lot of like, that's just it. They just made up a ton of things. Like that's, that's the, the, the, the, the answer that we give pretty comfortably.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Like.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, these are all metaphors and kind of like flights of fancy in it. Yeah. They just made up all this stuff.

[Matthew]

No way. Then you find Machu Picchu and like Baalbek at Lebanon.

[David Lee Corbo]

No big deal.

[Matthew]

Pyramid of Giza. Did y' all just do one on the Pyramid of Giza?

[David Lee Corbo]

Very cool.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

We are crushing, huh?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Wow.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Have you seen that one?

[Matthew]

I saw like a little snippet, but Chuck Missler used to do one on the pyramid. It's like insane, bro. Of like the measurements from the pyramid of Giza to Jerusalem and how that lines up like with measurements on, on the pyramid itself.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's, it's not just that like the guy went through. So there's like from the entrance to the pyramid of Giza, if you measure it in, what is it called? Like an Egyptian cubit.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, an Egyptian inch. I forget exactly what it is, but it's a standard inch plus a human hair, which is.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah, that's the exact measurement. But if you go down there, it's actually a timeline of chronological order from Adam. And then, bro, it comes, it's like a slight, it's a descent, the fall. Then there is a breaking off point at the law.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

And from the law you can either descend down into like this Hades.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Or you can go up and climbing up and then. And all the names that the Egyptians give these, these chamber rooms that they've led to apply like it's, they apply directly to the story of the Bible.

[Matthew]

And like Joseph was there. We know he had an impact.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Oh yeah. Even, I mean a lot of this stuff is measured in. I think they were attributing Enoch as well because like it. There's some kind of like timeline of how long these things, these things took. And they think enoch lived for 365 years, but he was definitely in Egypt. The Jews were in Egypt. Well, the Hebrews were in Egypt for, for a long time. They're constantly in and out.

[Matthew]

So 400 years, God told him. I mean it went a little long, but yeah, 400 years ago.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Didn't like Job. Job was in Egypt for a little while.

[Matthew]

I don't know. The Job one's Weird. We don't really. It's kind of. He was one of. He was the greatest man of the east, you know, it's kind of weird. And there's no reference to, like, anybody else. There's no reference to Abraham.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Abraham was certainly in Egypt. He went into Egypt, he became rich there and then came out.

[David Lee Corbo]

So, like, said that Sarah was his.

[Matthew]

Sister, not his wife. Yeah, there's a whole thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's where he picks up Hagar, it looks like. Sorry to keep cutting you off.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

No, you're right. Yeah. No, but they're. They're constantly going in and out, so they had influence. So the idea that this guy was bringing was that the great pyramid, the. The biggest one was a temple to Yahweh.

[Matthew]

Isaiah, I see, pulled that passage from Isaiah that talked about that there would be a altar to God there.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

No, that's intriguing, bro.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's interesting.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't know the bor. And then you find that it's like, technically it's on the border of, like, northern and southern Egypt or something of that nature. And.

[Matthew]

Yeah, it's right on the equator in the south Search.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah, the prime meridian, actually, like, if you. If you cut it, like, all different ways, like how. How you look on a map, like an X and across from its points.

[Matthew]

Yeah, it's just crazy because, like, yeah, cavemen did that.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah, yeah, sure.

[Matthew]

They just had, like, rocks and they.

[David Lee Corbo]

Did it based off of stuff that they just, like, made up or like.

[Matthew]

No, we're still brilliant.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Doing the gasoline cars. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

We're selling masturbation devices in Walmart.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Oh, boy.

[Matthew]

He had to go there, bro. He has to do that, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I get a couple.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

That's the one time.

[David Lee Corbo]

I think I get at least three.

[Matthew]

Okay, this is where we go next. Verse 16. Let his heart. Let his heart be changed from man's. And let a beast heart be given unto him, and let seven times pass over him. This matter is by the decree of the Watchers and. And the demand by the word of the holy ones, to the intent that the living may know that the most high rules in the kingdom of men and gives it to whomsoever he will, and sets up over it the basest of men.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's interesting, because the. It's a decree of the watchers. So that's another one of those scenarios where, like, the watchers have influence. You know, they can help make decisions and everything. I'm sure they presented it to God and they were like, what do you think we turn Them into a beast.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Well, yes.

[David Lee Corbo]

And he's like, yeah, dude, do it.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

These are crazy passages. Like you read them as a kid, you're like, I don't know what that means. So let his heart be the. Let it be changed from a man's and let a beast heart be given unto him and let seven times pass over. And what does that mean? Is that like years? Seven?

[Matthew]

Yeah, that way. And the heart is like. The spirit is how I always interpret it. When it talks about the heart, it's talking about the spirit. It's not saying like they just took his heart and made it a different heart.

[David Lee Corbo]

Gangly animal heart.

[Matthew]

They changed his spirit.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

That's actually another rabbit hole because. So this is this the point where he's becoming a Sasquatch or this is the curse. Oh, okay. Right, right, right. So, man. So yeah, if you take the spirit of like, like. Because these are two different things. If you think a Sasquatch is a Nephilim or a Nephilim descendant, that means that they don't have this heavenly spirit or this spirit that's given by God. They have something else. A beast spirit.

[Matthew]

I'm not a specialist on Sasquatch. I just think it's rad to say you got turned into a Sasquatch. I don't really know. Those are the ones of all the like conspiracy theory things. I'm like, I don't know about that. Never find them cams, bro. There's trail cams like everywhere. Well, that's cuz he's traveling people using.

[David Lee Corbo]

He's going back and forth.

[Matthew]

I kind of think that too, you.

[David Lee Corbo]

Know, he's missing 411. He's killing these people and bringing them into the upside Down.

[Matthew]

But yes, something in him got changed, bro. From human nature to animal nature. However we want to. Whatever. Some people might say, no, it was a spirit, it was a soul. Okay, maybe God transformed his soul, whatever. But a human's made a spirit, soul and body. Like we're a triune nature, right? That's in the, the. The Thessalonian letter. It says it like very clearly. And not only that, in Genesis when God breathes into Adam, it says he breathed into him his spirit. And that combination of that dirt man and that spirit man, it says became a living soul. So it's like that combination provides the soul as well. So now your. Your spirit, your soul and your body and he's. His body gets changed and he just gets turned into some type of an animal. But the whole point is, because it says to the Intent that, like, this is the whole thing God's going through with Nebuchadnezzar. He's saying, like, bro, I know you think you're a big shot. Like, I know you think you're somebody so important, and you've done all this stuff, and you're like, somebody's so important. But the whole reason we're doing this and turning you into a Sasquatch is to the intent that the living may know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men, not just in the kingdom of heaven, because probably the ancient world understand that, understood that uppercase G, God ruled in the heavenlies, ruled in the spirit realm. But they're like, yeah, we're down here doing our thing. And the lowercase G Gods rule down here. And so uppercase G, God is just flexing just a little bit. Yeah, just a little bit.

[David Lee Corbo]

You're saying you from a king to a beast of the Earth. Yes.

[Matthew]

Just want to make clear that I do whatever I want in the Earth. I'm sovereign. I do whatever I want, whenever I want. I don't ask anybody's opinion. I don't ask for anybody's. Okay. On.

[David Lee Corbo]

I bet he turned his house to poop.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Just probably. Just to be clear, is this. Is this a dream this comes or this? Does this come to fruition?

[Matthew]

Bro, you're jumping the gun.

[David Lee Corbo]

Relax, dude.

[Matthew]

Should we keep reading this?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I'm just. Another thought. I'm sorry. This is the way the show goes. Is this, like. Because this kind of reminds me of something, like Beauty and the Beast. Like, this type of archetype that Disney would have stolen from where, like, you know, it's. It's not word for word, but it is at the heart of it where it's, like, turned into. Because of. There is a curse.

[Matthew]

You said it before, bro, that there's so much content. What did you call it? Archetypical. Yeah, it's just like, people just pull from it, and then. Yeah, they can make a Disney movie.

[David Lee Corbo]

Movie that's like the Lion King, right, Is basically the story of Canaan.

[Matthew]

Do you guys know where Walt Disney's frozen at? Or is that just. We're not exactly sure.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, we can't find it because every time I Google it, I just find.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Right in the bowl.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, that would be so cool if he was in the ball at Epcot.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Just, like, suspended that. Well, just his head.

[David Lee Corbo]

And we're all just around it taking pictures, and he's in there all frozen.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

That'd be that place.

[Matthew]

Okay. Gotta go. This dream I, King Nebuchadnezzar, the stream. I, King Nebuchadnezzar, have seen. Now you all belt as are declare the interpretation thereof. For as much as all the wise men of my kingdom are not able to make known unto me the interpretation, but thou art able for the spirit of the holy gods. Lowercase God is in thee. Right. This is just another example where it says in Proverbs that a man's gift will make way for him and put him before. I forget how it words, it put him before important men.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Right.

[Matthew]

Right. So here he is again. Then Daniel, whose name was Belteshazzar, was astonished for one hour, and his thoughts troubled him. The king spake and said, belteshazzar, let not the dream or the interpretation there have trouble thee. Belteshazar answered and said, my lord, the dream be to them that hate thee and the interpretation thereof to your enemies. He's saying, this is bad for you, king. Like, that's why, like, it's been an hour, and I'm just trying to figure out how I'm going to break this to you.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Matthew]

The tree that you saw, which grew and was strong, whose height reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to all the earth whose leaves were fair, and the fruit thereof much, and in it was meat for all, under which the beasts of the field dwelt, and upon whose branches the fowls of the heaven had their habitation. It is thou, O king, O.

[David Lee Corbo]

So he is the tree.

[Matthew]

Yeah. Which is not an uncommon concept in Scripture. Right. Like, Even in Psalms 1, a blessed man is like a. Is like a tree planted by the river whose roots have plenty of water. You even have, like, trippy stuff, like when Jesus goes to heal the blind man, and he goes, he starts to heal him the first time. This is the one where he spits on the ground and makes mud. And then he heals his eyes, and it says that, like, he starts to see, but he sees men as trees, which is kind of trippy. Then he. Then he touched them again, and then he's, okay, now he can see people as they really are.

[David Lee Corbo]

I had a dream. Yeah, I had a dream about. I had a dream. Because you have these weird dreams that you, you remember for, like, your whole life. Or maybe I just say that a lot. I don't know if anybody else actually has that. But when I was, like, 16, I had this dream that I, I, I was on a. I was on a pipe in the sky, and I had a, this, this pipe, like a narrow kind of pipe. I'm Walking on a pipe in the sky.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

And honestly, these are things that he would do though, walk on a pipe.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I have been on him. So anyway, so I have this guy trailing behind me and he's quite fearful when he's grabbing the pipe. And he's kind of naked too. And he's like, you know, he doesn't want to fall. But I'm chilling, I'm having a good time. I turn to him, I say, we have to make a pact. A pact that we never forget where we came from. And then I fall off the pipe in the sky. I fall into a giant hole in the ground. There's a tree down there in this cavernous space and it's. It's trunk is the circumference of like a city. And. And there's like all this glitter dust pouring off of the leaves. It's really nice. And then I kind of like, I stopped falling and I'm just suspended in the glitter dust and. But I never forgot that dream. There you go. That's all. Please move on.

[Matthew]

No, I'm kind of intrigued by this now though, bro. So there's like a scary guy. He's on the pipe with you, but you feel like you're kind of boys, though.

[David Lee Corbo]

Even though I feel like we're boys. Like, he's not scary, he's scared. Like he's.

[Matthew]

Oh, he's here too.

[David Lee Corbo]

He doesn't want to fall. I don't care about it though. I'm chilling. I'm like, nah, it's all good, baby. We're.

[Matthew]

Did you all ever see the dream? The movie? Gosh, what's it called? It's like Indian dude on the boat with a tiger. Oh, yeah, Life of pie. I don't remember those vibes. Your dream kind of has those.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't remember. I tried to watch it. It was.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It sounds like some made up Indian.

[Matthew]

That's the weirdest part. That's the weirdest part. It's like the saddest part at the end when they, when they get to land. And then the tiger like goes off in the jungle and he's like kind of looking at him and then the tiger doesn't even look back.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah, that's a.

[Matthew]

That's a hardcore movie.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. You don't remember?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I remember I saw it recently.

[David Lee Corbo]

That was the year of like. I don't remember.

[Matthew]

It was heavy. It was heavy. All right. Okay, so. So we're back. We're back.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

We're back.

[Matthew]

He says it is thou. That kind of reminds you of when you know David sins with Bathsheba, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yeah, What a dick move.

[Matthew]

Yeah, he's just like, hooks up with the chick, kills the husband.

[David Lee Corbo]

What's his name? Uriah. Yeah, I saw a meme that was just like, it's Uriah. It's an Indian dude standing there looking mad, and it's like, uriah. When David pops up in heaven, it's like, dang, dude.

[Matthew]

Yeah, I don't know. That story is like so heart. It's wrenching, man.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, it's. It's a. It's a bummer.

[Matthew]

It's a lot. But anyway, there's a trippy thought, though, is because David.

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[Matthew]

They have the kid. They have the kid. And Nathan comes to him and says, hey, man, you know that whole situation, like, yeah, God didn't not see that. And he says, don't worry, he's not going to kill you, but he's going to dust the child. Most people aren't ready for that because they're like, oh, no, God will never hurt anybody. Or so he says, no, no, he's going to strike a mill and he's going to die. So he strikes him, the child ill, and seven days later, the baby dies.

[David Lee Corbo]

Wild.

[Matthew]

Which is. Which is really crazy because the next child is Solomon, which is obviously becomes king, which is obviously in the genealogy of the Messiah too. It's just like this wild Story about, like, the grace and mercy of God and the reality of the judgment of God, injustice. But the trippy thing that. That happens is that Nathan has to come to David to explain to him and rebuke him. And it's nine months later, bro. David didn't repent for nine months.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's wild.

[Matthew]

He doesn't repent for nine months, bro. He's walking around with a pregnant chick and has never repented for what he did. But it's wild because, you know, Nathan comes and sort of tells him a parable about a man who, like, took everything from a poor man. He says, what do you want to do, David? And David goes, yeah, take everything from that guy. And then he says, thou art the man. It's nine months later. It's kind of like that. He says, like, verse 22. He says, it is thou king?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's an accusation.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's a condemnation nation. I. I just wonder, like. Well, at that time, was it. It must have been taboo to have done that because we see Abraham doing the same sort of thing as well.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, he was.

[Matthew]

You're talking about just boning chicks that you're not married to.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, Abraham, but it's different.

[Matthew]

He killed the husband. That was a mighty man, bro. He was like. And. And then, bro, the whole thing is like, he has Uriah come to the house and tries to get him drunk so that'll go lay with his wife. So that way when the kid pops up, he doesn't know. And your eyes like, nah, man. The armies of Israel out there at war. I'm gonna just go in and have drinks and lay with my wife. I don't think so. Like, this dude's an outstanding character.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Matthew]

And maybe he knew. And then he just gets led as a lamb to the slaughter, bro. He has the letter from Job and who's in charge of the military. He takes a letter that says, make sure this guy dies. Put him at the front line. Yeah, he's carrying the letter. He doesn't open it halfway. I dream about it or daydream about it. Sometimes I think the proper word is to meditate on the scripture. And then I just wonder if, like, he knew if Uriah knew all. All along, but he was like, yeah, so be it. God, let's go.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Let's.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, let's get.

[Matthew]

I'll die in the war. Like, let's go gangster. So I don't know. But anyway, yeah, it just kind of has those vibes. It is dow king.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah, yeah. That, like, the front line thing. So I. I assume everyone else on the front line is like, we're toast.

[David Lee Corbo]

Huh?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

They all, Everybody?

[Matthew]

Yeah, bro. But this dude's like a mighty man, and they. And they just put him at the front line and they make sure he dies.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Another question. The mighty men of David, are those nephilim, Are those Rafaim? Are those, like, look at he.

[David Lee Corbo]

Look at. He's disgusting.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I don't know.

[Matthew]

Because they're all those savages that will wipe out Rafaeen because some of those guys wiped out Goliath's brothers.

[David Lee Corbo]

Isn't there, like, I'm not sure or something in there with the lion face men of Moab?

[Matthew]

Yeah, yeah, the line.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Moab. I don't know, bro. I mean, I'm somebody who likes to go down the conspiracy theory trail. Like, I don't know, it does seem like that's a. That's a crazy term. The lion, like, man of Moab.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

The lion faced men.

[David Lee Corbo]

Faced men of Moab.

[Matthew]

I mean, bro, we got an unbeliever. But even without conspiracy theory, you can pull up the stuff where the mighty men killed off the rested Goliath brothers.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. The idea is that some of them were like, yo, dog, I see what's happening here and I'll join you against these. Even though there are like, yes, you know, I'm big. They're big.

[Matthew]

Cuz I love conspiracy theories in other books and whatever. I'm just saying, like, you don't have to go outside anything. You can just stay straight in the Bible to deal with the Nephilim Rafaim giants issue. You don't need any other tax.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, the thing is, it's like this lion face men of Moab situation. Once you start looking into it, there's like precedent for men with like, lion heads having existed the same way there's men with dog heads having existed. And so, you know, gets a bunch of questions.

[Matthew]

Oh, and then like, even Daigon, like, the. He's got like the fish head guy. That's why, like the creatures in the Catholic system, though, like the Pope or like. Yeah, they have the fish hat. Like, there's all these like, half man, half animal, right? Like lowercase G gods that are being worshiped. I'll tell you what, by the outfits.

[David Lee Corbo]

I sooner trusted a lion face man than a fish man. Yeah, that's just how I feel. Fish men feel untrustworthy.

[Matthew]

Weird. Yeah, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And we're talking like the upper body of a fish, the legs of a man.

[Matthew]

Mermaid vibes are weird, bro. And then the ones that can like sing and then the. The, like you're on the ship and then all of a sudden you're getting drawn in because there's.

[David Lee Corbo]

You ever see that. There's a guy on like an oil tanker and he is record. I tried to have him on the show. He. He made the rounds. He did some. Some shows, but he basically catches some videos. There's something paralleling his ship at night and singing and singing, and it's horrifying. And you can see it like in the water, but you can't make out what it is. It's boogieing too.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I'm like, damn.

[David Lee Corbo]

I didn't know these mermaids had. Had.

[Matthew]

You know, they got generated, but it's still creepy.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, it was back in the day. He was.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I mean, we live in this. In the. The age of so who knows?

[David Lee Corbo]

The age of so who knows?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

We also. We also live in the age of. Probably about to happen, but let's get back into it.

[Matthew]

It is da King, verse 22, that are grown and become strong. For thy greatness has grown and reaches into heaven and thy dominion to the end of the earth. And whereas the king saw a watcher and a holy one coming down from heaven and saying, hold the tree down and destroy it yet. Leave the stump of the roots thereof in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass in the tender grass of the field, and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts of the field till seven times pass over him. This is the interpretation, O King. And this is the decree of the Most High which has come upon my lord the king, that they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field. And they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen. And they shall wet thee with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over thee, until you know that the Most High rules in the kingdom of men and gives it to whoever he will. Such the theme. Dude, I love that. How many big shots are there? Like Xi Jinping or even the dude from India. He seems kind of cool, Trump. Like, you know, how many big shots is there in the earth? Yeah, like, just think they're big shots. It's like, no, no. God just allowed you into this role, bro. Yeah, nobody's a big shot. Like, you're just in spots that God had put you in.

[David Lee Corbo]

So what does he. What does he say, though?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I. I gotta know what God's like handing him over to his enemies.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, I get that. Yeah, hold on.

[Matthew]

Let's Read the rest. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Because I want to know how a man who threatens to turn your house to poop, how he takes this.

[Matthew]

Watch this. Verse 26. And whereas they commanded thee. Whereas they commanded to leave the stump of the tree roots, thy kingdom will be sure unto thee. After that you shall have known that the heavens do rule. That's like when John the Baptist says that, like, all authority comes from heaven. Right? It doesn't come in from anywhere else. Oh, you went to cemetery school. Oh, that's nice. You have a bunch of letters behind your name. You have degrees. Oh, that's cool. Like, you have no authority unless it's been given you by heaven.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Matthew]

Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee and break off your sins. And this is.

[David Lee Corbo]

This is.

[Matthew]

This is what Daniel says, bro, here's. Okay, here's what I would do if I had that dream, man. I'd repent.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee and break off your sins by righteousness and your iniquities, by showing mercy to the poor, if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquility.

[David Lee Corbo]

Huh.

[Matthew]

All this came upon the king Nebuchadnezzar. At the end of 12 months, he walked in the palace of the kingdom of Babylon. Like, we're talking about the time thing.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Another year.

[Matthew]

So a year has gone by.

[David Lee Corbo]

He's been chewing on this.

[Matthew]

He knows Daniel knows what's up, right? Like, he. He clearly knows this. He knows this is the deal. But 12 months of Epstein and Elon Musk and Peter Thiel and all this has been going. And is there kids in tunnels under D.C. they have all this stuff. And he's just, like, forgets about the whole thing. A year goes by, and at the end of 12 months, he walked in the palace of the kingdom of Babylon. The king spoke and said, is not this the great Babylon that I have built for the house of the kingdom of. By the might of my power and for the honor of my majesty.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Let me just say something again. We're gonna cut you off, Matt. Yeah, but there is there.

[David Lee Corbo]

You didn't get very far.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I know you got one verse.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm like, I got questions.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

No, no, because it's true. This is something I've been thinking about, something I told you that I think I might do, like, soon. Soon.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay. All right.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I was like. It was like, I'll reach out and. And start to, like. Like, basically ask, like. Like, start to get this ball moving. And I was like, reach out. Yesterday to do this.

[Matthew]

To do what?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

A thing. Don't worry about it. It's nosy.

[Matthew]

That's cool.

[David Lee Corbo]

You are very nosy.

[Matthew]

We're talking about it, though.

[David Lee Corbo]

Now we're alluding to it. There's a difference.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Just a thing that I feel like I'm. I should do.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Not that I necessarily even want to do the thing I should do. And then I go. It's like. Like last night or the night before, I was like, reach out. Do it. And I go, yeah, yeah. I should do that this morning.

[David Lee Corbo]

And I didn't.

[Matthew]

You did not?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

No, And I. I didn't today either, bro. And I know I'm not going to.

[Matthew]

Can we do it right now? Is it a thing you can, like, grab your phone. I don't know if I. Oh, he's on the spot. He's on the spot.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I could. But here's the thing.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I like to live life on the edge.

[David Lee Corbo]

He really does. He really does. He likes to complain, like, oh, no. It's like, okay, so as soon as.

[Matthew]

The show is done, we'll do it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, as soon as the show is done, we got to start another show we'll never remember.

[Matthew]

You guys are crushing the game.

[David Lee Corbo]

And then after that show is done, we're gonna have to record.

[Matthew]

Just send the text, bro.

[David Lee Corbo]

Send the text.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

All right.

[Matthew]

Do it.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Go ahead.

[David Lee Corbo]

All right.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Please continue reading.

[David Lee Corbo]

Hey, good. You inspired him.

[Matthew]

All this came upon the king Nebuchadnezzar. At the end of 12 months, he walked in the palace of the kingdom of Babylon. The king spake and said, is not this the great Babylon that I have built for the house of the kingdom? By the might of my power and for the honor of my majesty? While the word was in the king's mouth, there fell a voice from heaven saying, o King Nebuchadnezzar, to thee it is spoken. The kingdom is departed from you, and they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field. They shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and seven times will pass over you until you know that the most high rules in the kingdom of man and gives it to whomsoever he will.

[David Lee Corbo]

God forgives. Though it seems like if he would have repented, bro, he probably wouldn't have been a Sasquatch for seven years, bro.

[Matthew]

Let me see something here.

[David Lee Corbo]

Just seems like, you know, that's a theme of the Bible, is like, God is that we have a forgiving God, and if you didn't want to be an oxen, like, the Oxen, like the beasts of the field. If he didn't be. If you didn't want to be wet with the dew, if you didn't want to be eating the grass, you should have repented, dog.

[Matthew]

He's all, dude, he's full of mercy, man. He's always trying to reach people.

[David Lee Corbo]

And Nebuchadnezzar's text filled with.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I just. I just sent a text message to Matt instead.

[Matthew]

Well, what are you.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

No, I don't think I do me. Did I. That would have been hilarious.

[Matthew]

I'm just kidding.

[David Lee Corbo]

Did you.

[Matthew]

No. I'm glad you did the thing. Sorry to go a little bit.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's not good, though. Now I feel like that was a big mistake. Whatever. Let's go.

[Matthew]

Yeah, you're right, bro. He's, like, constant. Like, think about Jesus with the Pharisees. I'm always thinking this when I'm reading this stories. Like, he's punking them, but at the same time, he's trying to grab them.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

And even on the cross, he's saying, father, forgive them. They don't. They don't know.

[David Lee Corbo]

Even in Exodus, it's like, you know, like, all these things are befalling Pharaoh. And it's like, yeah, but here's an opportunity. Like, the first thing happened. Are we good? Like, can you repent? Can you let. Let my people go? And it's like, no.

[Matthew]

He says that he. Okay, that's.

[David Lee Corbo]

There it is. There it is.

[Matthew]

I need to not look over.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Shout out to Scott and his butt.

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[Matthew]

Yeah, he's always trying to reach people, man. He's just always like. Even no matter how far they're gone. Because some of these guys, you think of the apostle Paul, like, when he was Saul, and, like, how treacherous it was, like, what he was doing to the church.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Like, bro, you save people like that and bring them into the kingdom of light. It's just game over, darkness, man.

[David Lee Corbo]

Because God does a thing sometimes, and then it's like, you know, like. Like, let's say with the flood. He's like, okay, not by water again. Yeah, you know, he's like. That was, you know, a little bit. Yeah, foreigners. But, like, do you think he did the Sasquatch move? And he was like, I'm not going to do that one again.

[Matthew]

I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm not going to turn anybody to Sasquatch again. Or maybe that's what Sasquatch is, a bunch of sinners.

[Matthew]

I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo]

People that trespass to that guy. Too big for their britches. And God said.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I mean, there's like. There's theories that go around about Cain being a vampire or possibly a. Because, like, he's cursed the vampire, and he. And he's given a mark, and he's now sent out a tattoo.

[David Lee Corbo]

Tattoo? You think it's a tattoo?

[Matthew]

I mean, it's a mark, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

And.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

What?

[Matthew]

I don't know. So a tattoo is marking your body, Right?

[David Lee Corbo]

Maybe.

[Matthew]

I mean, I have tats from before I got converted. I'm just saying it. It's a mark. We don't need to get into that right now. Like, you put a mark on them like the kids say, matt, should I. Is it okay to get a tattoo? I always say. Well, listen, I'm not saying yes or no. Your bot. Who's your body belong to? Right. Does your body belong to you? No. Does it belong to God? Yeah. Then take it up with God. If God says go ahead and mark it up, then go ahead and mark it up. But if it doesn't belong to you, you can't just mark it up. You got to ask God first. Which I'm not saying he would say yes or no. I'm not saying any of that. No, don't make it like that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Why are you making it. You're making it weird.

[Matthew]

No, he's making it weird.

[David Lee Corbo]

I first got.

[Matthew]

You were tattooing.

[David Lee Corbo]

He's saying, the thing that. No, that. You're not saying. You're making it weird.

[Matthew]

No, I'm not trying to make it weird, man.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

All right, please, you can get that removed.

[Matthew]

No, I'm not saying get it removed. I wouldn't say that. Pay extra money now. Like, it's already a lot of money.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's fine.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

The podcast is making.

[Matthew]

You know, people are like, no, man, I have. Like, you think I can't afford it? No, I know you can. You guys are making jack, bro. Like, dude, get out of here. We got another show after. You have, like back to back show.

[David Lee Corbo]

We can't stop. They have to keep the money flowing. My wife wants to go to TJ Maxx anyway.

[Matthew]

Maybe we didn't need to do the whole tattoo thing. So anyway, we're in verse 33. The same hour was the thing fulfilled upon Nebuchadnezzar. And he was driven from men and did eat grass as oxen. And his body was with the dew of heaven till his hairs were grown like eagles, and his nails like birds claws. And at the end of the days, I Nebuchadnezzar, when it says, sorry to just go back for a minute because people are like, he's not a Sasquatch. He has bird feathers. It doesn't say bird feathers. It says wet with the dew of heaven till his hairs were grown like eagles. And then the feathers in the King James is in italics. That means it's not there. But like, think of the hairs on a eagles, like on its head.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, it's like long.

[Matthew]

Yeah, they're like the. Yeah, they're. It's not feathers, but it says it. It says his hair.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Like. Like they were like.

[Matthew]

Yeah, so I don't know. Maybe he did have feathers. I don't know. I'm not. I'm just saying, like, what about like a griffin? I don't know enough about the griffin. What's the one you guys did with the. Can it with Canada? There was a weird creature in Canada or something. I don't know. My daughter knew about it. She's like, what?

[David Lee Corbo]

Your daughter knows about the Edan thing? The.

[Matthew]

What are they called?

[David Lee Corbo]

The deep underground military bases where they're releasing.

[Matthew]

No, she didn't know that. But there's some kind of creatures and it was on a show you guys did, and it was Canada. And then she's like, oh, they know about those. I don't know what they're called. Myriads or. I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo]

He's just making up words.

[Matthew]

Yeah, that wasn't Made up.

[David Lee Corbo]

And that was amazing.

[Matthew]

All right, we'll go back to it. So. So he gets turned into the Sasquatch. And he's got claws.

[David Lee Corbo]

All right.

[Matthew]

And at the end of the days, I, Nebuchadnezzar, lifted up my eyes into heaven and my understanding returned unto me. So at the end of days, just like he got told it's going to be seven times. Right. We would interpret that as seven years. At the end of that, I, Nebuchadnezzar lifted up my eyes into heaven and my understanding returned unto me. And I blessed the Most High, and I praised and honored him that lives forever, whose dominion is an everlasting dominion, and his kingdom is from generation to generation. And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing. And he does according to his will in the army of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth. And none can stay at his hand or say unto him, what does thou? At the same time, my reason returned unto me. So as soon as he repents, his reason returns to him.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's cool. That's interesting because he. How did he have the capacity to repent? He's a beast.

[Matthew]

Oh, you want to go there? I love it.

[David Lee Corbo]

The capacity to repent.

[Matthew]

This is an intriguing topic, dude. Like some of our brothers in the so called reformed movement would say, like, you can't, you're dead. And that means you're like dead. Like you can't breathe, you can't do anything. But some of us are not necessarily in that movement. Even though we love our brothers in that movement and don't necessarily disagree or don't think, like, I'm right, you're wrong. But we just all know that, like no man on the earth has flawless doctrine, including me. So I must be holding some doctrines or some theology that I'm not right about because nobody's right about everything. But I might view this thing this way. You view it that way. I kind of look at it like, is it John 1:9 or 1:12, it says that Jesus Christ is the light that lights every man that comes into the world. And then in Romans 1, it talks about that all men will be held accountable because of their conscience. I don't. When it, when the scripture talks about us being dead, dead in our sins, I think it means nothing more than we were cut off from God. Just like if you're thrown in the lake of fire, we call that the second death. Right. And that's being cut off from God for all eternity. Yeah. It also includes torture and torment. But it's. But at the core of it, you're dead because you're cut off from God. So, like, somebody whose spirit is. Hasn't been born again is cut off from God, but they have a conscience.

[David Lee Corbo]

And they've been spirit of a beast. And that's like. That's what I'm getting hung up. But he's like, if you have the spirit of a beast, how does an. How does something that is like an oxen, like a. A beast of the field have the capacity for repentance?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

There are. There's like, actual documentation from, like, older church fathers and. And saints, like back in the day, where they were arguing or debating with each other if these type of creatures could get salvation. Oh, yeah, because, I mean, this goes back to St Christopher, who is depicted with, like, a dog head. Like, this is real.

[Matthew]

We got to go into the Romans passage. I mean, it's clear he's you. Only the descendants of Adam.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, isn't there also precedence in. In the Bible for, like, preaching the gospel to all creatures, too?

[Matthew]

Yeah, that's. Yeah, but that. Okay, but then that's a bigger topic. That's like. So the whole creation came under the sin and under the curse of Adam. The entire creation did. Like, the creation as soon as. As soon as the curse happened. Now there's thorns and thistles. It says in the King James. This is where, like, things get a little hairy. Like, I don't like. It looks like there wasn't, like, poison.

[David Lee Corbo]

Ice ivy before that, you know, that's crazy.

[Matthew]

There wasn't like, stuff like this, and then boom. It all comes under the curse. Remember? I know this gets a little weird, but, like, a serpent creature comes up to talk to Eve, and she does not say, why are you talking to me? Serpents don't talk. She does not say that.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Well, we saw. We were talking to the guy yesterday, and he was talking about the showing.

[David Lee Corbo]

Of Kingdom in context.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah, the book of Jubilee.

[Matthew]

That is it, too.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yesterday we did, too. Yeah. We're hard workers. We're grinding. We're hustlers. Yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

He was talking about the book of Jubilee and how it. It's like a. Kind of like a companion to the. The book of Genesis. And it talks about one of the curses being, like, not. Not a curse, but like, once they're kicked out of the Garden of Eden, then God shuts the mouths of the animals.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

As to not communicate.

[Matthew]

I can see that.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

And then he. He also speculated, like, later on in the Bible where the donkey talks to the.

[Matthew]

Sure Balaam.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yeah. Angel in the road. And he's like, dog, there's an angel up there. Dude, I've been your donkey. I've been crushing.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matthew]

This dude's a sleeper, man.

[David Lee Corbo]

I talked about it yesterday.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It goes to Shrek as well. Like, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

Like, yo, I thought a Shrek too was. I was like. And the donkey sounded like Eddie Murphy. That's what I thought in my mind. But I was like, you cut me deep.

[Matthew]

Real deep.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Real deep trick.

[David Lee Corbo]

I like that boulder. That is a nice.

[Matthew]

Okay, so, yeah. So the whole creation came under the curse, but they can't do anything about it, bro. Only the descendants of Adam can do anything about it. Only. Only now those who have entered into Christ can do anything. It. It says enrollment. I'm pretty sure it's the Roman letter. It says that the whole creation is groaning in anticipation, waiting for the sons of God.

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[Matthew]

Right. Do we have, like, blue letter Bible? Can we pull it up and quote it? Because I hate when I say this stuff. And then maybe it's, like, a little bit off, like I did about the book of Enoch last time. I felt terrible.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

You go ahead and apologize.

[Matthew]

That was inaccurate.

[David Lee Corbo]

Take a moment and apologize.

[Matthew]

Yeah, so I'm sorry, everybody. Yeah, like the story of.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

You were talking about Moses or something.

[Matthew]

Yeah. Moses and Michael were fighting over the. No, no, no. Satan and Michael were fighting over the Body of Moses.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right, right, right, right, right. And then you thought that that was.

[Matthew]

That story is not in Enoch.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

What do you want me to look up here?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Are you. If you're in the King James, just say, like, creation. Grownith.

[David Lee Corbo]

Grownith.

[Matthew]

Creation. Grown.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Okay.

[David Lee Corbo]

What do you think about the Gen Z Bible?

[Matthew]

I have no clue.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

What the hell is that?

[Matthew]

It's like, are you in King James? Yeah, it says maybe it's groaning.

[David Lee Corbo]

Like, it like, Gen Z Bible would be like. And was pressed.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Grown.

[Matthew]

Sorry. This is like, yeah, like, groaning like, oh, yeah, Grown.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. Not like, grown wing.

[Matthew]

Like, grown up. Okay. It's Romans 8. 22. I'm sorry about that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Well, for. We know that the whole creation groans and travails in pain together until now. So it's not just, man, like, the whole creation is like, yo, can we just get back to how it was? Yeah, can we just get back to how it was? And not to make it too weird or personal, but, like, when we shoot deer, like, this is a little weird. I'm just gonna say it anyway. Like, we. I'll go to the deer. My son's the same way, bro. I'll just put the hand on and be like, bro, thank you. And then a thing I always say, too, I'm like, yo, take a look at the screen. We're gonna enjoy you. You're gonna feed our family. And we're grateful. But just so you know, it's not always going to be like this. And I just feel like that, you know, whatever. That's too weird and hippie for people. I'm not.

[David Lee Corbo]

I appreciate that. I think that's a great move.

[Matthew]

I think you have to understand, like, when you're eating meat, you should come to terms with, like, which we. I eat a ton of meat. It's like, damn, something had to die for this.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Something that used to be part of the original sinless creation that was having a good time. This is the way it is now. I'm not. I don't feel guilty about it in any way.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, because what's the opposite? It's like taking joy and. And taking a life whenever. I don't like that.

[Matthew]

That's why I don't like the hunting shows that are like, they shoot a deer and then they. They hit the three pointer at the buzzer to win the world championship. Like, have a little respect for the animal, dude.

[David Lee Corbo]

Like, there is something that happens. Like you catch a fish and it's.

[Matthew]

Like, yo, yeah, you're excited.

[David Lee Corbo]

Like, you're excited. Yeah. But it is like, at the same time, it's a life.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

There's, like. When you kill. When you kill an animal, there's this, like, for me, at least, it's like a. Like a profound sadness. But, like, you also want to. Like, I. I do bow hunting rather than rifle hunting, but I want to take the cleanest shot. So if I'm not within like 30 yards, like, like 40 yards. And if it's, like, not correct, I'm not gonna take shot.

[Matthew]

Respect that.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

You're gonna hit the guy and hit him in the back, and then he's gonna die of, like, infection later on. Sometimes they just. You'll see deer running around with arrows.

[David Lee Corbo]

I've seen that.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Birds with arrows through their necks. I'm like, damn, dude.

[Matthew]

But I mean, the animal kingdom is incredibly violent. And, like, animals eat animals while they're still alive. So, like, the best way for an animal to die is from a hunter, right?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Not to die from disease or a mountain lion that eats them while they're still alive or get hit by a truck. Like, the best way for an animal to die is a man or woman. I didn't mean to make it. You're killing the animal and then you're eating it. You're using the bones. Imagine you use the skull to decorate your house. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you're just kind of like.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

But imagine being a man, a male animal getting killed by a woman.

[David Lee Corbo]

Wow, what a bummer. Actually, I once interviewed a chick. She was a female bow hunter. I forget what her name was. Kate something or another. And she. She really knew her. And she. She was. She was sharp.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

But what am I looking at?

[Matthew]

We were just talking about the pangs. Yeah. The whole creation groans. Yeah, until now, man. Because, you know, in a certain sense, like, this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached and all the world as a witness, and then the end shall come. Only the descendants of Adam can do that, man. Like, the animals can't go do anything, bro. They're waiting on us. The whole creation's groaning. We know. The whole creation groans, waiting for the manifestation of the sons of God. So, yeah, bro, because right before that, it says invert, Starting in verse 19 of Romans 8, it says, for the earnest expectation of the creature waits for the manifestation of the sons of God. Like, we have to take our role, man. For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who had subjected the same in hope. They. The animals didn't willingly come under the curse. Adam did it because the Creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious freedom of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and travails in pain together until now, and not only they, but ourselves also, which have the first fruits of the spirit, even we ourselves, grown within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. I don't want to go, like, totally on a tangent, but I'm just saying, like, we have to. We have to do the thing.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah, that's actually. It's fascinating, man. It's fascinating. When you think about, like, animals are waiting on.

[Matthew]

The whole creation is waiting for us to do it.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah. And to think. To think that they're like. I never really thought about that. Like, them being victims of what we did. They're just kind of like innocent bystanders. Like, what the hell, guy?

[Matthew]

We. We were given responsibility and authority over the entire planet. Like, if you talk about, like, a. Like a. Like a true father or a true shepherd pastor, or even a true boss, like your job, you. Nowhere in the Bible or anywhere in reality does anyone have authority without responsibility. And nowhere does anybody have responsibility without authority. So, like, my role as a dad, my role as a husband, my role as a boss, potentially, maybe someday. My role as a shepherd is to create an environment where whoever I'm responsible for can thrive and flourish. Like, that's what we do. That's our job, create an environment. So we're the la. We're the least important one in the equation. It's our job to create an environment where those that we are responsible for can thrive. Well, Adam was responsible for the whole creation, bro. So the whole creation came under that curse, But Jesus is responsible for the whole creation, too. So in one man, all have died. In one man, all can be brought to life.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's like. It's interesting, too, that, like, what you have now, like, the. This very popular thing of, like, renting, like, you know, the World Economic Forum, you'll own nothing. You'll be happy.

[David Lee Corbo]

In a.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

In a sense, when I see it, I go, that's horrible.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

But when you ask people out there, like, there's a guy right across the way, he's a developer in Leesburg, and he was talking about a lot of this stuff, and I was like, you sound like you liked it. He's doing it.

[Matthew]

What do you mean? He owns nothing?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

No, he owns. But he's. He's developing so that other people will not own.

[Matthew]

Oh, building. Yeah, bro. The explosion of rental properties around here is insanity.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah, but he, so he explained the plan, the plan to me and I'm just like. I told him was like, hey, dude sounds evil. And he goes, you know, like he's, he's one of these guys is just kind of like ones and zeros. And he told me straight up, he was like, you can call it what you want, but the facts are that the trends want this.

[Matthew]

I mean.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

And he's right.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

And it's like, but, but that's a reflection of like today's society and why. How detached it is from God.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Because it's like this idea of ownership, responsibility, business ownership. Yeah, Parenting. Like we, we're neglecting parenting. Like we, we've chosen abortion over parenting or just ignoring your children. And listen, I try my best to like be as involved with my kids. Kids as I can. I still think I need to be more involved.

[Matthew]

Same.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

But it's just like people are opting out.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

And like that is the opposite of.

[Matthew]

Well, it's to bro. It's it. The entire system is set up for failure, bro. You think about, like, think about a mom, dude. Think about a mom and you have a baby and a baby wakes you up, I don't know, three, four times a night you have to care for this baby. And then at 8am you got to go to a full time job. Yeah, that's madness, bro. That's madness. Jess stayed home with the kids. Like back then it wasn't cool. And people thought we were trailer trash and they weren't wrong, but it was just like this bad look down thing. And I always thought like, dude, this chick is like, wakes up all through the night with the kids, takes care of them 24 hours a day. Like what do you mean you're gonna do that and go to a full time job? That's insane.

[David Lee Corbo]

People thought that that was a bad move for you guys because.

[Matthew]

Yeah, that wasn't cool 20 years ago.

[David Lee Corbo]

That was like 20 years ago.

[Matthew]

Yeah, I think like 50 years ago it was. And then now we still have that, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

It's like, oh, you're supposed to be girl bossing.

[Matthew]

Yeah, that's crazy to me, bro. That's great. And then, you know, if the chick's just gonna stay home, watch soap operas, then yeah, then just go to work. But like my wife was like, they had the funnest days, bro. They were like at the library, then they were at the park. Then they came home and they swam, then they took a nap, then they made homemade cookies. Then you like come home and your house Smells like cookies. Yeah. Yeah. You know I'm saying. And the kids are used to that environment. And, like, bro, I would never trade that. Like, what would I have gotten in return if she went to work? We would have had a bigger truck or a bigger. Or like, a bigger TV or.

[David Lee Corbo]

And your kid would have been raised by somebody else.

[Matthew]

Yeah. Who knows how they would turn out? Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

I went to a daycare. They whipped my ass, and then they turned into a whole thing.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Let me just say, David didn't go. And I haven't met your son yet, but I'm looking forward to Saturday. Son, after the football game, I think that you've succeeded in whatever you're doing. Because his son's the type of dude, like, he took a year from school, came back, and then he immediately jumps into football. And not just football, but, like, varsity football. On this. This is an incredible sight. When you go to the.

[Matthew]

Shout out to Aiden.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Shout out Aiden. It's a crazy thing. I'm looking at an entire stadium. First off, even if you've been doing this your whole life, the balls to step on the field and do. Because I played at Yankee Stadium, I played in, like, big venues. It's a different thing when you're at a venue. Like, this guy's never played football in his life.

[Matthew]

He goes hard. When he goes out, too, he's like.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I want to do this. This went out and did it. And it's because I was asking, like, oh, so he's gonna try D1 next? Or what's he. And he laughed at me. Matt laughed. I was like, what do you mean? He said he's never played football before. I was like, this is.

[Matthew]

But, bro, they put him in. He goes hard, dude. He. He goes like. Just guts.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's awesome.

[Matthew]

Every single play, man.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

But to go for it, like, to just. I assume, like, just wake up one day and be like, I'm gonna do that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Instead of just going.

[Matthew]

He's like, so the whole reason he didn't go to school is sophomore year, they moved to school, and it's 45 minutes from the house. And I was like, bro, know I'm not driving you 45 minutes there and back. And neither is mom. So he started doing the homeschool thing. Yeah, he started doing the homeschool thing. And then him and Jessica in a fight one night about doing the stuff. And I was like, bro, I don't give a. Excuse me. With a customer.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Wow.

[Matthew]

You go to school or not. Wow. But you're gonna go to work. You don't have to go to school if you don't. He was like, I don't want to do school anymore. I was like, no problem, bro. I went to work full time when I was 16. You could do the same thing.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matthew]

So boom, he drops out of the. The online school or whatever the. That, the home school. And then so he started working in the shop like five days a week. Then while he was working in the shop, somebody offered him a job framing houses. So he starts framing houses three days a week and working in the shop two days a week. He's just stacking jack, bro. He's just saving a ton of money. He's making like grown up money and like lives at home.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

And he's grinding and he's hearing all these grown up conversations in the shop. He's getting around all these cool grown ups and hearing these cool stories and stuff and then. But by the end of it, he was just wore down, bro. Imagine a 16 year old working like a grimy full time grown man style. And he's like, yo, I just want to have Christmas break and like summer break. I just want to be a kid. So he always hated school. So the next year he's like, I want to go back to school. And he had his license then. So we're like, bro, you can go back. He goes back. Well, he had enough credits because he was always in like the advanced classes. So he had enough credits and stuff to just like miss the sophomore year. He rolled right into his junior year.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's dope.

[Matthew]

And then all of a sudden he's like, yeah, I want to play football. And then he just. And then he just did it, bro.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's nice to be able to take a break from that system too, like that for just a year and then go see what the real world's about.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

That should be mandatory.

[David Lee Corbo]

It should be mandatory.

[Matthew]

Ye. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. I think it's great for him. But he. But it's good for him to go back to school too, man. Then he gets in the games. He goes hard, bro.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I just like, I like the type of person that.

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[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Just the fact of, like, I'm just jumping in. Because when he gets into, like, real life, he already has experience with it. But, like, if he's going to be an entrepreneurial type type, you can do whatever he wants. It's crazy.

[Matthew]

He's not going to be able to sit in an office.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

That's what I want my kids to do.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. Basically, it's about doing a thing. Like, that's a. I always say the. The only difference between somebody who's doing the same and they've been doing it forever and somebody.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Excuse me.

[David Lee Corbo]

The same things. The same things, and they've been doing it forever is just the. The willingness to do it. Because that first step into it is always really, like, there's a lot of hesitancy. There's a lot of what if. There's a lot of fear surrounding it. And it's like, if you have that ability to jump into it, then thing that is, the rest almost takes care of itself.

[Matthew]

We haven't been given the spirit of fear, but of power, love, and the sound mind. So, like, we live on the earth, bro. Like, whatever we want to do, we just do it.

[David Lee Corbo]

We're gonna do it.

[Matthew]

Just do it. We're with the creator of the universe, right?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

But that's.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's a big difference. Reading it or just hearing it at church, which is like, what you're always talking about.

[Matthew]

No, no, you have to live it. 7, 24, 27. When Jesus wraps up the sermon on the mount, he says, there's two types of people when they hear this stuff. Churchgoers, there's only two types of types. Those who hear these sayings of mine apply it to their life. They're like a dude who built his house on a rock. Those who hear these sayings of mine and don't do it. They're just like a dude who built their house on sand.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's like people that are like motivational speakers or even like, you know, it doesn't matter, but the type of person that can tell you everything about what you're supposed to do, but then does none of it in their own life, like some people or like, like a coach that's better at the, at teaching than they ever were at actually engaging in. The thing is, like, there, I think there's value in those people, but it's like, yeah, there's something wrong there. You can't apply that. You can teach it, you can repeat it, and, and it resonates with people, but you can't apply.

[Matthew]

That's a little sketch of Source Rex, if we're being honest.

[David Lee Corbo]

I mean, there's people, right, who, who, who trained.

[Matthew]

But when preachers do that, this is a problem.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, that, yeah, that's a different.

[Matthew]

This is a problem. Cuz you can only impart to people what you have. What do they say? It's only as real through you. As real as it is to you. So you send these dudes to cemetery School. They get all this stuff and now they're. They say a lot of good men go to die there, bro. It's like, yeah, Cemetery school, bro. So they come out, out. And now they're like, they say, you could have 32 degrees and still be frozen, bro. Now they're still just like telling people all this stuff, but it's not real inside them. And then all the people, it's like, why is there so much immaturity in the body of Christ today? Why are they not growing? But there's not anything for these dudes to impart.

[David Lee Corbo]

Can I, can I give a quick shout out to. To Heather B. Who I see here. She says, my store manager just walked past the table where my phone is open and she read Sasquatch Bible Study. And now she thinks I'm even weirder. Shout out to Heather. We have the best people. The best people.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

They're the best.

[David Lee Corbo]

Heather.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Heather is the girl that. We read her story. She went to jail, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

She's the catalytic converter stealer. Shout out Heather. I love her.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

She's great. You would, you would like her. You like her story. It's a crazy one.

[David Lee Corbo]

She crushes.

[Matthew]

I like Nancy too.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh no, he knows. He knows.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

You know, producer.

[David Lee Corbo]

Don't talk to her.

[Matthew]

You don't say that word.

[David Lee Corbo]

Please don't talk to her.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

All right, let's get back into the Bible. How dare you?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, really?

[Matthew]

Okay, my bad, my bad.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Now he's just reading the chat.

[Matthew]

Okay, so Nebuchadnezzar is repenting, right? Right.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

36, I believe.

[Matthew]

36. At the same time, my reason returned unto me, and for the glory of my kingdom, my honor and brightness returned unto me, and my counselors and my Lord sought unto me, and I was established in my kingdom, and excellent majesty was added unto me. Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and extol and honor the king of heaven, all whose works are truth in his ways, judgment, and those that walk in pride, he is able to obey days.

[David Lee Corbo]

You know, it's weird because not only did. Did Nebuchadnezzar, you know, really get full of himself, but he also was shown the glory of God several times over. Was like, oh, yeah, dude, God is the one. He's totally based. Like, he's sovereign. And then he moves away from it over and over again. So it's like, you need to be a Sasquatch.

[Matthew]

Solid point. Solid point. More than up and down with God. How do you finish, though, bro? Like, to me, if Nebuchadnezzar finishes in this state, we're gonna see him in heaven.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Right?

[Matthew]

I know people are offended by that. I get. I understand.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't like that. But people get offended by dumb crap.

[Matthew]

Like, well, you don't know how in historical accounts, he turned. But if he finishes like this, I mean, yeah, he's in, bro.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

That's it.

[Matthew]

He's repented.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

What does the word mean? A base? Because they used a based man. And then so he says, and those bring them down.

[Matthew]

It's like the same concept is there's only. In a certain sense, there's only two types of people with God, man. It's like he resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble. So he's able to resist the proud. Right, Right. Those that walk in pride, he is able to abase. He's able to resist. He's able to knock him down. You know, he's able to, like, bring him down.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's funny, that's like. Because that's a word that's used with. I know you're not familiar.

[Matthew]

You guys say base. You talk about base.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, we don't talk about grok. Rock isn't.

[Matthew]

This whole thing that grok was based in the ladder. There was a ladder.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

We were being facetious.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Shits. We would. No, well, look, look, based is. I will admit, it seems to be a bit of an illusion. It seems to be something that's been cast out for us to take as bait. So, so yeah, I, I, I, I kind of agree even with the, the sentiment.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Brock was saying racist things. At some point it lost its mind, which was very funny.

[David Lee Corbo]

Doesn't have a mind. Let's not carry it away. This is all predetermined.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

So it was saying these, like, let's say racial things that are create.

[David Lee Corbo]

And it was racial truisms.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I mean, it's not even truisms. They were like, like weird. But the thing is that, like, you say, oh, based because it's like, that's like a joke. But really a based man, in my opinion, is someone that's like a based in reality.

[David Lee Corbo]

He's not living a lie.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

A based man. The best application is like a guy that some girl is being a floozy around him is trying to get him to do something, and he just goes, stop it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Ew.

[Matthew]

That's not what I'm saying. This is just saying he could bring the prideful man down.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, like a base man is a man who walks through Walmart and sees the, the, the diddle section, chapter 5, verse 1.

[Matthew]

Belshazzar the king made a great feast to a thousand of his lords and drank wine before the thousand. So Belshazzar is the son of Nebuchadnezzar now. Okay, so now we're in the next kingdom.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

So Balthazar is Daniel, but Belshazzar is.

[Matthew]

Is the Nebuchadnezzar's son, the next king of Babylon.

[David Lee Corbo]

So that's, it just ends with Nebuchadnezzar being like, that was good.

[Matthew]

That's how it ends. But I mean, we get into some weird. This is like, considered historical, these first five or six chapters, and then it gets into, like, prophetic, but of prophetic. And it's all kind of historical in a weird way. But all right, this isn't necessarily the end of hearing about Nebuchadnezzar, and we're going to hear about him right here because the, the queen mother has to come in and say, bro, your dad knew this guy. Daniel, I don't want to jump the gun.

[David Lee Corbo]

All right?

[Matthew]

Belshazzar the king made a great feast to a thousand of his lords and drank wine before the thousand. Belshazzar, while he tasted the wine, commanded to bring the golden and silver vessels which his father Nebuchadnezzar had taken out of the temple, which was in Jerusalem. We read that in chapter 1, verse 1. 1, verse 1 and 2 talks about Nebuchadnezzar when he took over Jerusalem, he took all the stuff out of the temple. He brings it back. So now his son brings it out. Wasn't there a thing with the rappers with the gold chains and getting crunk and they had like the big things. It was like gold. Yeah, they get crunk. Yeah, that's what he was doing. He brought out like the gold and silver vessels. Then they brought the golden vessels that were taken out of the temple of the house of God, which is at Jerusalem. And the king and his princes, his wives and his concubines drank in this them. They drank wine and praised the gods. Lowercase G. Gods of gold and silver and brass, iron, wood and stone. In the same hour came forth fingers of a man's hand and wrote over against the candlestick upon the plaster of the wall of the king's palace. And the king saw the part of the hand that wrote. Then the king's countenance was changed and his thoughts troubled him so that the joints of his loins were loosed and his knees smote one against another.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay, I get that his knees gave out on him, but what are we talking about here?

[Matthew]

A hand comes out and just starts writing on the wall.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's just a hand poltergeist with him.

[Matthew]

It's just writing on the wa.

[David Lee Corbo]

Just grabs a candlestick.

[Matthew]

No, no, no. The candlestick is just there, which I think just adds another level of like just vibes.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Cuz the thing is, you know how candle. It's not like this kind of light. It's just like the, you know, it's kind of going like that. Boom. Above that the hand is like, man, man, I don't want to spoil. But he just starts riding, bro. Yeah, so his knees start shaking. You know when your knees shake?

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

And his loins. Yeah, dude, his loins were loot. Did he crap himself?

[David Lee Corbo]

I mean, yeah, I would.

[Matthew]

It's. I mean, bro, like they're just getting. They're just getting trash and then boom.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah, these guys are getting crunk.

[David Lee Corbo]

They're getting.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

They're getting crunk at a party and they're drinking out of God's cup.

[Matthew]

People have to understand this is what's in the Bible. We didn't jump any chapters. I want everybody to understand that we didn't just like jump to some new story. This is. We're just going in order. This is how wild the scripture is. Yeah, like it's wild, bro. It tells these kind of stories. So people are like, oh, no, no, reality Is like Burger King and the super bowl and the Kardashians and Justin Bieber. Yeah, no, everything's, like, right here, man. Man, you can just fit every. No, reality is, like, super weird. It's super weird.

[David Lee Corbo]

I like it.

[Matthew]

So the hands just writing, right? Then the king cried aloud to bring. Here we go again, bro. How many times it's going to happen. There's a new king. It's the same story, which is a major concept of scripture. That's why you study the scripture, because then you know the patterns. As long as you know the patterns, nothing changes, bro. Just like the players change and the geographic locations change, but all the stuff is always the same, dude, right? The king cried aloud to bring in the astrologers, the Chaldeans and the soothsayers. And the king spake and said to the wise men of Babylon, whosoever shall read this writing and show me the interpretation thereof shall be clothed with scarlet and have a chain of gold about his neck and shall be the third roller in the kingdom.

[David Lee Corbo]

Daniel's still alive, right, bro? And this guy, like, learned nothing from his dad's experience.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Like, you know, his dad tell him.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, that's always the hope that, like, we live a life that our kids would learn from and don't have to make the same mistakes.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

No, but most of the time your dad, like, we went to this guy's. Well, well. And the dad knew to do the thing to find the water. Who we told you about the water.

[David Lee Corbo]

Didn't tell him.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Didn't tell his son. Didn't even bother to tell him.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, like, yo, listen, man, anytime you have some real spooky happen, talk to Daniel and his homies, because they are.

[Matthew]

Yeah, but I mean, who knows that this was just such a minor, minor story in the news that nobody knew about in that day. And then in the headlines was all kinds of stuff they thought was way more important was Tesla and the big seven and, like, whatever else is the thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, but it's just like, we're like, probably patterns.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It probably. He doesn't make the news. Like, when things like this happen, they just like, go. It's like, yo, dude, thanks, man. That was such a.

[Matthew]

You think dudes on the planet today that are the ones like, living very intimate and close to God are on TV shows?

[David Lee Corbo]

No.

[Matthew]

No way, bro. No way. They're not. The guys on the TBN asking for money and, like, doing the shenanigans and begging for money and stuff like, bro, there's no way, dude. They're hiding out and like people, probably most people don't even know them. So like what? Like let's say the scripture was be written, being written today. I'm not saying that's what's happening, but say it was, was with these guys stories. Would anybody even know it? No, this is like stuff that's just like, it's, it's, it's holy. It's between God and his men on the earth. And it's not necessarily like in the news, dude. Yeah, so yeah, we're like, why doesn't he know? But like decades. Okay, this is a great point, bro, not to jump ahead in this story, but this is the night that the Medes and Persians take over Babylon, bro. This is the night.

[David Lee Corbo]

You just spoiled it.

[Matthew]

I know, but I kind of had to to make the point that this is 70 years later. They were in Babylon for 70 years. So Daniel's in his like 80s, bro. He was a teenager in the beginning when they first bring him. He's a youth. He's like in his 80s now.

[David Lee Corbo]

I understand. Because I wouldn't want to be like, get that 80 year old dude.

[Matthew]

So it's like, you know, who know, like, was this even a big deal to anybody in society at that time? But it was the only deal to God. It was the only story.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

You see what I'm saying?

[David Lee Corbo]

That's wild. Yeah. Yeah.

[Matthew]

But like to everybody in the earth, they're like, oh, no, we have all these stories. We had to pay attention to God's like, no, no, this is the story.

[David Lee Corbo]

It kind of makes you look at then if this, if these are the things that are important to God, then you should be looking at the supernatural events that take place in your own life as like, these are the most important footnotes of my story.

[Matthew]

Yeah. Yes. I mean, you guys make a living off knowing all the news and stuff. So it's a little different for you guys. You're like in the know.

[David Lee Corbo]

And mostly we talk about my dreams.

[Matthew]

That's true.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

No, but you're right, it, it's, it's. Well, before this, before we, we went like full bore on this, we were doing another show that was more political with.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

A friend. We told you a story about that was.

[Matthew]

This is the great deception of Satan, dude. Imagine how many people get bogged down between the red team and the blue team and it's nothing they have any control over.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right?

[Matthew]

And then in their own life, the stuff that they could be taking care of, they could be exercising and eating right and they could be why did you look at.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

No, no, I'm just saying.

[Matthew]

I'm just saying in general, people looked.

[David Lee Corbo]

At me when you said actually exercising and eating. No, no, I'm just saying about my physique. They're saying things. They. Somebody called me a fat retard. Go back up and highlight that.

[Matthew]

Just so everybody knows that picture behind the raven is him in a boxing. That's a boxing thing. I don't know if everybody knows.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right beneath it. Right beneath it. No, no. Fat are my favorite too, because schizo friend said David is either hilarious or legit retarded. You know, And I know that Scott, and Scott is. Is really hurting me.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

All right, all right, Enough addressing the chat. But what I'm saying is, thing is, is before we were doing this other show and it was just one of these other things we were doing, it was good for like exposure and growth because the guy that we were doing it with had like a large audience, but it was kind of like soul sucking because. Yes, we're like, we're gonna talk about Trump. And I was like, you can only.

[Matthew]

Hear about the red team and blue team so much, bro. Yeah. And then you just stop taking care of the things in your own life that you are supposed to be taking. That's what I'm saying. It's genius by Satan, bro. And he's got everybody. If you're on the blue team, you don't just disagree with the red team. You think they're monsters. And if you're on the red team, you don't just disagree with the blue team. You think they're monsters, but nothing else on the earth. If your favorite food was grilled cheese and their favorite food was pizza, you wouldn't hate them for that. You'd be okay with your favorite ball team was different than their favorite ball team.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

You wouldn't hate them.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, that kind of. Actually, people do hate.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

They've also made it like the political theater has made it so that everything is so polarizing. Yes.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's directly in your face and you have to kind of like, on, like, I get the blue team. Like, you can't be like, oh, I hate the blue team. But I'm like, you guys are doing some mess up stuff. So is the red team. But it's, it's now pervaded, pervaded every aspect of life where it's like, you got to be political in a certain. You have to understand politics in order.

[Matthew]

We are. We're from a kingdom that's not of this world. So in a certain sense, we are political. I don't belong to the red team or the blue team. I belong to the kingdom of God. I'm from another realm, stranger and a pilgrim on the earth.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I think that that's. That's like the ultimate understanding of. But. But a lot of people got to go through this thing that you got to see the Democrat, Republican. You kind of got to understand this, and then you can get to the next level. Maybe because I skipped right. Like, you know, we all go to church when we're young and we go to this level. But, like, you don't understand it that intimately until the way he just explained it is the best way because that's where we're at now.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I never was in. I. I believe politics was theater since day one. And I never went to. To church growing up, you know, So I don't know. I guess I'm exactly like wwe.

[Matthew]

I'm just exactly the same. That's why it's so embarrassing when you figure it out is you're like, I was actually cheering for Hulk Hogan versus Andre the Giant. Like, and I thought it was real.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

None of it.

[Matthew]

It's just they do that on the stage and in the back, they're just like, high five in and everybody's bubbies and they're just.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I don't know. Unless you're Rampage Jackson's kid. Didn't. I don't know.

[Matthew]

Anyway, so, anyway, I just want to say, like, that stuff paralyzes people, bro. They're so confused with the news cycle.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Would you say it makes them stagnant?

[Matthew]

It's completely stagnant and neutral. It just neutralizes everybody, bro. Satan's not necessarily concerned with turning you into a murderer, a rapist. He just wants to neutralize you. Make sure you don't do anything for the Kingdom of God. Just make sure you're like, you're not doing anything productive for the Kingdom of God. That's his game.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, that's the idea where you're saying, like, you have to come of peep that game in order to get above it. But that's like, that's exactly. Most people don't. I would say the most people do not get involved in. In the political conversation and then get beyond it. I think they get stuck there. They become stagnant, and then that's what they do. God forbid you should develop any clout while you're in that game. And that's the. The end of it. Now you're associated with it permanently. So I would recommend. Don't step on that stumbling block.

[Matthew]

Amen, bro. Well, but if you're not engaged in it, don't ever get engaged in it. Just. Just bypass that and just go straight. Kingdom of God. And then when people come talking about politics stuff, you'll just be like, you're an idiot. What are you talking about?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

For me, okay. Like, my. My pathway. Like, I did get. Maybe I shouldn't have went through it, but I.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, then I came and helped you.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

But my ability to go through it, though, seal. But you have, like, no formulated arguments. When somebody comes with a political discussion to you or wants to argue along those lines.

[David Lee Corbo]

I do dismissive wanking gestures.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah. But I can actually sit down and I'll tell you.

[Matthew]

Appropriate. I hope that wasn't on this.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

That was on the screen.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, I was.

[Matthew]

Okay.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I can tell you exactly why you're gay. Like, and. And we could. We could have.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Romans, chapter one. This is why you're gay. No, but, like, because I. I've been through it. So I, like, I have, like, these arguments formulated, but in this, in a sense, now you're, like, embarrassed. You're like, no, I mean, it's.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's just a little embarrassed.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's a thing that I did, you know, but it was a little bit of a waste of time, but it's a thing I did. And now I have this sort of skill set. So I'm like, all right.

[Matthew]

And it's a fair thing to say that the blue team's agenda is way more anti God than the red team' agenda. But again, these are just stated agendas.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, you know what?

[Matthew]

Nothing to do with reality.

[David Lee Corbo]

The way that you have politics in that background, I have like, Gnosticism and occultism and all that other crap. So it's like if you get hung up and you're like, christianity's not true.

[Matthew]

Dude's got a dark past.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, no, that's not true. It's like, Christianity is not true. It's actually about this and this in.

[Matthew]

The room, but not in the room.

[David Lee Corbo]

I was already there with all those gnostic occult ideologies. I already tangled with them. And I came out of the other side being like, oh, no, Christianity.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's just, listen, that's a path.

[Matthew]

I love that, bro. Most people don't have that. That testimony. Most people don't know.

[David Lee Corbo]

If you come up to me and you say some gnostic principle, I'm gonna have an opinion on that. It's not going to be something that I'm not familiar.

[Matthew]

I love that. I'm grateful for that. I'm glad you're in the body of Christ, bro. Like, we all need each other. You know what I'm saying? You bring us very, very. You bring it, like a very needed thing to the body of Christ. That's why I'm actually really grateful to know both you guys. Not to sound like, kind of weird, but, like, we need people in the body, bro. That's not just the same cookie cutter stuff, dude. Like, we need people with different backgrounds. If everybody's a kneecap, then the body's not functioning.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

That's what makes. That's what makes. And also, I think you bring a. You bring, like, a certain aspect to this show as well.

[Matthew]

We're just doing that now. We're doing the. I love you more.

[David Lee Corbo]

I love you.

[Matthew]

Let's go. All right.

[David Lee Corbo]

You know, I'm going to Matt's house for dinner on Saturday.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Are you, dude?

[Matthew]

Everybody's so grateful for that. If you ghost, it's not going to be cool.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, I'm not going to go.

[Matthew]

Why'd you do the look like that? Like, maybe ghost.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, because the audience knows that I don't go to. I don't do things.

[Matthew]

Yeah, but this you will, bro. We'll have the video game set up. You can just shoot.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm not going to play the video game, Matt.

[Matthew]

Maybe. Okay, where are we at? Okay, so the hand has come out and starts writing on the wall.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Right? Right.

[Matthew]

The king cried aloud in verse seven, bring in the astrologers, the Chaldeans, and the soothsayers. And the king spoke and said to the wise men of Babylon, whosoever shall read the writing and show me the interpretation thereof, shall be clothed with scarlet, and have a chain of gold about his neck. And shall be the third ruler in the kingdom. Then came in all the king's wise men, but they could not read the writing. Shocker. Nor make known to the king the interpretation thereof. Then was King Belshazzar greatly troubled, and his countenance was changed in. Lords were astonished. So Nebuchadnezzar's son, who's the king now, is astonished.

[David Lee Corbo]

I wonder if he's going to start threatening them in the same way.

[Matthew]

No, no. Now the queen mother.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Not his style.

[Matthew]

This is Nebuchadnezzar's wife, who seems to be, you know, still alive. This is his mom. This is Belshazzar's mom. By reason of the words of the king and his lord. Like, she overhears all this going down. She comes into the banquet house and the queen spake and said, oh, king, live forever. It's, that's a weird thing they always say to the king. Right?

[David Lee Corbo]

Why would you even want that? That sounds like a, a nightmare.

[Matthew]

Let not thy thoughts trouble thee, nor let thy countenance be changed. There is a man. I love that, bro, because that's how God operates in the earth is like, through a man. He's not like, there's a committee.

[David Lee Corbo]

There's a committee.

[Matthew]

There's a, there's some big important group.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

There's like, no, no, there's a man.

[David Lee Corbo]

So they're called the builder.

[Matthew]

That's how God operates. If you think about, like, when he's going to take Israel out of Egypt, he doesn't bring a legion of angels or even a legion of armies. He gets a man. Yeah. He goes and gets Moses. He let's go, bro. He takes Amen and he does this stuff. So I just like that line, there's a man in thy kingdom, in whom the spirit of the holy gods. There we go again, lowercase g, gods. And in the days, thy father. That's Nebuchadnezzar.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Why are they saying that? Are they confused or.

[Matthew]

Good. Yeah, I see what you're saying. Like, why are they saying that he has the spirit? Like, because they know that the lowercase g gods have come down and brought with wisdom.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

So they, they just.

[Matthew]

And they're saying, this human, he's on the level of like a lowercase G God, bro. Like, he has wisdom. Like, he's from the unseen realm.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

All right.

[Matthew]

But they don't know. He's interacting clearly. He's, he's so intimate and close with uppercase G God. He has such this intimacy with uppercase G God that he has the same wisdom or more than lowercase g gods in the unseen realm. That's my take on it.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

That's what it seems like, Right. They say also, like, again, like, considering the time frame 70 years of, from Daniel, who knows how long Nebuchadnezzar was like, that's this thing I, I, I worry about as well, with the message I just sent, being on fire for God. Like, you see a lot of people, like, they're like, yeah, you were with a Christian youth, right? So, like, you'll see a lot of that.

[Matthew]

Sure.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

And then I'm like, I always look at. And I go, it's a long game, bro. It's, it's, it's. Yeah, I know. I'm like, I try to be careful because I'm like it. It that can burn out like quick, dude.

[Matthew]

Yeah, but I mean, I mean, I say just go hard forever. Don't try to go soft.

[David Lee Corbo]

Go hard forever is a T shirt.

[Matthew]

You cannot take your foot off the gas, bro. Like people say, hey, do you think once saved, always saved? I. I don't know. All I'm saying is get your foot on the gas and never ever take it off the gas, Go hard forever and let it needs to go a little bit harder down on the gas every day. Don't let it, like, just keep going. Keep going. This is not.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Amazes me. I mean, it's. It's the salt, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

That's what it is.

[Matthew]

It's not a thing to make you, like, ease off at some point. Like, bro, I haven't read the scripture every single morning. My most exciting morning is that day. More exciting than the day before. Way more exciting than 10 years ago, because I know it more now, and it makes more sense, and I've been changed and cultivated by it, and it makes it more and more engaging and more and more intriguing every day that goes on. This is not like a thing in the earth. Like if, say, you like jet skiing, but if you jet ski every day, it gets old. Like, studying the scripture is not like that. It's not like that. But I'm not saying there's not a time period you have to get through till it gets like that, because it is a struggle in the beginning. Beginning to cultivate the habit because our flesh is weak. Right. Like our spirit's willing, but the flesh is weak. And you have to cultivate this lifestyle in the word of God, in communication with God, not just for the sake of, like, knowing the Bible. So you can win arguments and stuff or go on podcasts, which is really fun. But you have to be able to communicate with God, and this is how you do it. And then now he's speaking to you through things in your life, and he's speaking to you through his Word, and he's speaking to you through situations that are happening.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Here's what I mean by it, though, because, like, what you're describing, vibing, like, we got like, the fire pit out there when. When we set that fire up, it's like. And sometimes it could be like a tornado of fire, and then you look 20 minutes later and it's. It's done. But I set a fire out there a couple days ago where it got. It never got that high and crazy because I get worried.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

But a couple days later, it rained too. A Couple days later, I looked out and you could see that there's, like, embers at the center of this fire. Still hot, hot burning. Because this thing has been burning from the core. It's not this big, flashy thing is what I mean.

[Matthew]

We have to talk about a thing then, bro. So it's not a bad thing to be on fire for God in the beginning.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's a.

[Matthew]

The reason it's so Sketchasaurus Rex is.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Because it typically, so many times, you.

[Matthew]

Know, typically happens for the wrong reason for the wrong motive. It's, like, so exciting to be like, oh, you're the new church kid that's doing this and that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

And so when it's grounded in that, that, of course that's going to fizzle out. Of course that's going to fizzle out.

[David Lee Corbo]

That idea, too, of, like, theatrics. Like, you want people to see how on fire for the Lord you are. Especially, like, if you're in a church setting and that. That's where things become really sketchy. Like, I, I'm caught up. I, I, you know, there's a, there's a. I've seen. How do I say this without I've seen? Like, you'll be at church and, like, there's like, all these people there, but, like, one person is, like, coming up and they're doing, like, a lot of dancing. They're doing, like, a lot.

[Matthew]

And if they dance like that at home when they worship God, then Amen. Right, Right, right, right.

[David Lee Corbo]

And so, like, now I'm like, I don't know. Know this person personally, but I'm just looking around. I'm like, everybody's kind of doing their thing.

[Matthew]

That's the hard thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's the hard thing. And I don't know, you need to.

[Matthew]

Go to a Baptist church.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I don't know. I'm having a lot of fun, actually, at the, at the Pentecostal Church. Every single time I go now somebody speaks in tongues, and I feel like they're showing out.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

For me, it's a little too much at this point. What's going on, guys?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. Last time somebody spoke in English, which I'm like, is that you just say.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It'S the same guy? Which I'm. Now I'm getting suspicious.

[Matthew]

Oh, it's always, yeah, okay. If we can just go back.

[David Lee Corbo]

Has the gift of stuff.

[Matthew]

If we can go back to this thing of the end of Matthew 7. Right. The end of the Sermon on the Mount. It's 7, 24, 27. Everybody should study it any man who hears these sayings in mine and lives accordingly, he's built his house on a rock. Any man who hears these sayings of mine and doesn't live accordingly, he's built his house on sand. It's just going to get washed away. In Luke's account, it adds a detail. In Luke's account, he says, says the one guy dug deep. Okay, so you get the idea. One guy builds house on rock, One guy builds house on sand. Maybe they live on opposite ends of the county. Like, that's Sandy over there. That's rock over there. No, no. The way Luke tells that they live, their neighbors, the one guy just dug down to the bedrock. Now, here's the problem, right? This dude's clearly on fire for God, right? But he's in secret. Do you see what I'm saying? If you only have 200k to build a house, just to use simple number numbers, and you got to spend 50 to go down to the rock, well, now you don't have the flashy chandelier, right? And now you don't have the flashy windows. And now you don't have the flashy countertops, right? Now you don't have all the stuff that everybody. You see what I'm saying? No, I wasn't even saying for your house.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, you were kind of even gesturing.

[Matthew]

That's just what I do. Like, there's people there. I have a. I didn't realize I did that so much. So I watched the podcast and I. That's what I'm trying to keep my.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Hands, like, pointed directly at where there's, like.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's where the countertop.

[Matthew]

But hang on before I get sideways here. Do you see what I'm saying, though, is, like, there's all the stuff, man. If you only have so much to give, if you're doing it for the show and it's all the things that everybody sees. Yeah, all the things everybody sees, then it's going to be detracting from the things that nobody sees, bro. Like, this is the thing. In our kingdom, you don't let the right hand know what the left hand does, dude. You do it in secret with God. And people aren't willing to play the long game, man, and just go in secret with God and not have a role in the church or be somebody, like, important in the church. Like, they want to be somebody right away. It's like, play the long game, man. Just work at your job and just be diligent and faithful and loyal to the Lord and all of the little things. Of your life that nobody sees, bro. Like, do that. And that's how you're going to be grounded in God. So, like, the people that are on fire, we only know they're on fire because there's all this stuff that we see. Yeah, right. But if there. But people are on fire for God, they're doing things that nobody sees. Think about this, bro. On the day in 1 Corinthians 15, when you. When all your works get tried, God basically says, hey, Michael, grab the flamethrower, and they bring them over to try your works. And some people have wood, hay, and stubble. And some people have gold, silver, and precious stones, right? So there's all this stuff. Some people have these giant piles of stuff. Like, yeah, look at me. Boom. It just goes up in the flame jar. It just goes up in flames. He says, you're still saved, but you have no rewards, right? Then you have the things that are gold, silver, and precious stones, bro. These are the things under the earth that you have to dig for that nobody sees. Wood, hay, and stubble is in great abundance. It's found everywhere. Everybody can see it because it's above ground, right? The gold, silver, and precious stones is below ground, and nobody sees it. And your hands are grimy and dirty from getting it. You see what I'm saying? This is our kingdom. It's. Our kingdom is one that, like, it's not flashy and showy, bro. It's. It's stuff that's intimacy with you and God, which clearly these dudes had. And that's why they walked in. The power that they walked in.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's interesting, because I've been, like, thinking about, you know, I. For. I do give the church a lot of. I'll kind of bust the churches his balls, right? Because of the whole, you know, whatever, the speaking in tongues thing and yada yada. But, like, I am real. Like, I get value from the church, my family gets community. We get to delve into scripture and all these things. This is good. And so I'm like, how do I give back? But I don't wanna. I'm not gonna do, like. I'm not a. You know, my wife's like, you should join the choir. I'm not gonna do that, dude. It's not happening. But. But I am like. I wonder if there's like.

[Matthew]

Like saying hi to people in the lobby would help. That'd be a good story.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't like to talk to people, but.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

So it's very hard for him.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's very. I mean, hard so like in, in, in mma, the way that you kind of give back is like you stay after and you mop the mats. And I'm like, dude, is anybody like.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Vacuuming you cleaning the lady at, bro.

[Matthew]

I respect that a lot.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's like simple stuff, cuz I'm like, you know, it's, there's labor to be done around your building.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

The nicest woman at that church in Brooklyn I used to go to that got kicked out of her job. What she asked to do was clean the bathrooms and this lady had like bad knees. So I don't even know how she was doing this, but like, that's what.

[Matthew]

She loved the Lord and did it in private and maybe her knees hurt while she did it. She said, lord, I'm doing this for you, cuz I love you. Yeah, that's our kingdom, bro.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

She's like, is it kicked out of the church?

[Matthew]

Dude?

[David Lee Corbo]

Just, is it?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Well, I did, but is it the toilet paper in the bathroom is like, that's like this lady's ministry and it's like how it's, it seems minuscule, but it's not.

[Matthew]

You guys don't understand. We're talking about like the heaviest thing we could be talking about right now. Yeah, this is such a heavy topic, bro.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's Washington.

[Matthew]

Ministry is like, yeah, the toilet paper. No, like nobody sees, nobody knows. She loves God with all her heart, mind, soul and strength. She's giving what she's got.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, like, I think it would be dope to like stick around like after everybody gets out, like vacuum this, these rugs and such and like, you know, wipe down this stuff like, cuz somebody's doing it. I don't know who's doing it at the church. I've not been around long enough to see who's doing it, but I'm like, that would be cool. Let's just do that.

[Matthew]

Hopefully it's not somebody on payroll because they're losing their eternal reward if they're getting paid for it down here. But anyway, it's kind of like, like the dream that the raven had when. Oh, about the guy. Remember when the guy showed up and he's in heaven and they've got the table with the crowns and there's this one giant crown and the guy, there's the giant crown and he, and he's a pastor, right? So like in the earth, he's a big shot. He goes to get the big crown and then the angel said, no, no, no, that, that one's not yours, that one's not yours. Yours is the little one right there. He goes like this. He goes, well, who's that one for? And the angel says, that's for the woman who's always praying. Prayed for you your whole life.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's hers, gangster.

[Matthew]

Nobody even knew her.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's dope.

[Matthew]

Did you have that dream or you didn't?

[David Lee Corbo]

No, I didn't have that dream. I've had. We have people, though, I know, like, in this audience that pray for us. And I think about them, like, every time, like, something happens and, like, life is crushing. I'm like, these people are praying for us.

[Matthew]

I love those people, bro. Those are the most, like, valuable.

[David Lee Corbo]

Shout out, Jin. I'm gonna say her name. I know Jyn's out there. She's been praying for us at all. She. And it's been, like, almost two years of this show. And I, I, I. If I had, like, a way to quantify what I think. J.Y. has been pray. And it's been piling up. We got a big old pile of shout out Jy. Yeah. Jen's crushing. Yeah, I. I love her.

[Matthew]

She's. No, those are. That's the most valuable thing to us. Like, sometimes people say, oh, we love your library. Want to support it? We'll give you some dollars. I'm like, oh, that's great. But if you're praying for us, like, not just saying you're gonna. Or like a meaningless prayer, but you're really, like, contending with God for us. I promise you that's the most important thing you could be doing. Doing for us. Yeah, much. That's. That's, like, way a billion times more important than dollars. Yeah, I respect the dollars because that's your blood, sweat, and tears, your skill, your time. Like, you have to give so much in this life to get dollars. So I respect it. But it's not as meaningful as, like, people praying for you.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's a tithe, right? A form of tithe. People think it's just dollars, but I think, you know, a tithe is more useful. Somebody doing what they're good at. What. What could you help with?

[Matthew]

10 is not a thing in the New Testament. I don't mean to be that guy, but I'm just saying that, like, it's giving with a cheerful heart is the percent, which could be way more than 10, or it could be less. It could be whatever. But give with a cheerful heart. Not like, oh, man, I hope I pay the electric bill this week or whatever. Maybe I'll pay for the ac. Or maybe they're Going to buy a new building or maybe they're going to buy. No, no. You're like, dude, I'm so excited to give this money to somebody who's going to do something rad for the kingdom of God and I'm going to be connected to it.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

So if you can find like a legit missionary, that's a good thing. That went off the rails a little bit. I'm just going to get right back.

[David Lee Corbo]

Can we get back to.

[Matthew]

There is a man in thy kingdom in whom is the spirit of the holy gods. And in the days of your father, light and understanding and wisdom, like the wisdom of the lowercase she gods was found in him whom the king Nebuchadnezzar, your father, the king, I say, your father made master of the magicians, astrologers, Chaldeans and soothsayers. For as much as an excellent spirit and knowledge and understanding, interpreting of dreams and showing of hard sentences and dissolving of doubts were found in the same Daniel whom the king named Beltedge is a are now let Daniel be called and he'll show you the interpretation. Look how sure the mom is. Yeah, just call Daniel. He'll tell you, bro.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Then was Daniel brought in before the king. And the king spoke and said unto Daniel, are you that Daniel, which are of the children of the captivity of Judah, whom the king my father brought out of jewelry. I don't know why I didn't have you in my kingdom, but like, are you that Daniel?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah, about him, he knows what's.

[Matthew]

Were you hiding in a cave? Like, bro, where were you?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

He's retired, dude. Dog, he's 80.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, seriously.

[Matthew]

Then was Daniel brought in before the king. And the king said unto you, are you that Daniel? I've even heard of you. That the spirit of the lowercase g gods is in thee, and that light and understanding and excellent wisdom is found in thee. So where was he the whole time? And now the wise men, the astrologers, have been brought in before me that they should read the writing and make known unto me the interpretation thereof. But they could not show the interpretation of the thing. And I have heard of thee that thou can make interpretations and dissolve death doubts. Now if you can read the writing and make known to me the interpretation thereof, thou shalt be clothed with scarlet and have a chain of gold about thy neck and shall be third ruler in the kingdom.

[David Lee Corbo]

Daniel's not even about that. Yeah, I wonder if Daniel's like, dude, this is the same thing that your father did to me.

[Matthew]

This is the kingdom of God right here. Like. Like, this is at the core of our culture in our kingdom. Then Daniel answered and said before the king, let your gifts be to yourself.

[David Lee Corbo]

There you go.

[Matthew]

And give your rewards to another. But I'll still read the writing under the king and make known to him the interpretation. Does everybody understand that? Like, that if, like, Daniel crushes, bro, but this is always how a man of God is. He's never taking the world's money, dude. It's like the guy at the intersection the other day, he had the bucket, and he was with such and such church, and they're at the intersection begging for money. Do you know what I'm talking about?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

So we made eye contact. I wasn't gonna look away, dude. Like, he was like. We made eye contact.

[David Lee Corbo]

You spit at him?

[Matthew]

No.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Matthew]

But he was, like, doing the thing. Like, he was trying to be dominant or whatever. So it was like. So I just kept looking at him. And then. So he got close, and I just went hit the window and. And he said. I said, bro, bro, the church is not supposed to be asking the world for money. And he goes, oh, give and you shall receive. I said, bro, bro, that is not a passage. And saying the church is supposed to beg the world for money, right? Like, this is not what we're supposed to be doing. We're telling the world that we held the mysteries to all of the secrets of the universe, but we're going to beg for your money. And he goes, what's it say in Malachi? What's it say in Malachi? And then he said, I'll open the windows of heaven. I said, again, that's not God telling the church to beg the world for money. That is not what that passage is about. And then he started, like, naming some other scriptures, and it just. It was embarrassing. It was so embarrassing. But then the light went green. I don't want to be the guy who's, like, holding everybody up.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

So he was yelling, like, as I drove away. But it's like. It's so embarrassing to me, bro. To see the world. Like, the world looks at us and says, obviously this is fake. Like, look at you guys. It's like. It's like the. Dude, it was in London. I'm pretty sure Raven Hill used to talk about it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yeah. Where they. The migrants stabbed the people.

[Matthew]

No, no, no, no. This is another story there. So the church used to be packed in London, right? There's like, the great preachers came from London, Right. Just great men of God. G. Campbell Morgan or even Raven Hills from England and Spurgeon, right? There's all these guys. And, like, churches in general were packed. Well, the times had changed, right? This is probably 1800s or 1900s, and there was like a. What's it called? Is Broadway, like, in New York, where it's like a play. So they had, like, some theater type of play going on. And the line was wrapped around the corner. And like, a worldly reporter asked the actor. Actor said, hey, why do you think the line is wrapped around the corner for your show that you're doing in the theater and the church is empty? And the actor, like, doesn't skip a beat. He says, I don't know. Maybe it's because we take a fake thing and make it look real. And you take a real thing and make it look fake.

[David Lee Corbo]

Damn.

[Matthew]

Is that the craziest thing, bro? A worldly guy. And that's what I think of when I see the dude with the bucket on the corner and begging the world for money. Like, bro, how is the world ever going to believe you, dude? Dude, like, what are you talking about?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, just like, it is weird to go, like. You know, you're coming out with your hands open and you're like, give and you shall receive. Like, give to me and God's gonna.

[Matthew]

Like, that's kind of what this. The whole point I'm making is like, look at Daniel, bro.

[David Lee Corbo]

Daniel's like, I don't even want you, bro.

[Matthew]

Keep it. I want your dollars. You think I need, like, more commas and zeros in my bank account? Like, keep it, bro.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's so funny, too, because earlier, you know, Matt's like, oh, they're getting crunk, right? They got gold goblets and gold chains. And this guy's trying to put his. Him on. He's like, yo, you can get crunk, too. Like, I'll give you gold chains.

[Matthew]

Yeah, but that's. Isn't that always, like, the temptation of.

[David Lee Corbo]

The world come in?

[Matthew]

And that's where a lot of kids go astray, bro. They grow up in the church, they're on fire for God, so called. And then they become an adult and they try alcohol maybe for the first time. And they get around the world and they go like, oh, this is actually way cooler than what I, like, what I had going on in the church as a kid. And they just go astray. They go with the world. Yeah, because the world says, yeah, let's get cr.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

This is like what we were talking about with. I mean, in Babylon, these temples that of these Lowercase G gods that they're worshiping. Yesterday we were talking with Sean again, and he was showing us some of them, and you would go. You would offer your sacrifice to whatever lowercase G God.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, then you get crunk.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Then you get crunk and sexual debauchery. And it's like, people like, this is super cool. Like, this is what they'd want to do, of course, but it's something that, like. Like, obviously it's feeding your flesh, but I'm like, dude, that's not the road that you want to go.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, go down.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Feels good, good at the time, but it's horrible for you.

[Matthew]

Yeah. You know, I know, man. I just feel like it's embarrassing because a lot of times in the American church, man, like, kids grow up and then really they just want to thrive in the American dream, you know? And if the church isn't, like, a path to that, they don't really care.

[David Lee Corbo]

The American dream is whatever they're selling on TV at the time or whatever they're selling in the media at the time.

[Matthew]

Yeah, yeah, but people got to know God, man. Like, that's all it comes down to. You gotta. You gotta know the. The Lord. Okay. But these dudes never want money. I just want to say, like, this is not. This is not just a Daniel thing. Like, Abraham, if you know the story when the five kings go against the four kings and they capture specifically Sodom and Gomorrah, but the other nations, too, and they carry off lot. You guys know that story? Yeah, they carry off lot. So Abraham, it's like, I guess he's got 300 trained, like army rangers or, like. Right. Right in his household. Old.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

He takes 300.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's crazy to think of, like, it's hard to understand. Like, you know, Father Abraham, like, the song you sing is a savage, bro. It's like, this dude was like. He was.

[David Lee Corbo]

Showed up and murdered all these people, too.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah, he was a king, like, with his own plate.

[Matthew]

He was a savage, bro. But these guys, like, this is the other point I'm trying to make with this, too, is like, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. You can make the argument there's some of the wealthiest dudes on the planet, they live in tents.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

They didn't build palaces. These dudes could have built palaces. They could have built, like, whatever they wanted.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

What do they mean by tents, though?

[Matthew]

That's like, they might have had a rad tent. But I'm saying they didn't, like. Yeah, they didn't make some structure that made them A big shot in the earth, dude. They lived in tents. They didn't have to. They could have lived in palaces, they could have set up brick and mortar. But like, Abraham always has a tent and an altar, bro. He's like ready to roll. He has a tent because it's movable. Like that's the whole point, right? God, wherever you want me to go, I'm down. Yeah, he always has a tent and an altar. If you read the life of Abraham, it's always that, bro. Like he's going at the voice of God and he's worshiping God. But anyway, in that story, he comes out and he rescues lot. And then this is when Melchizedek shows up, man. There's the whole encounter with Melchizedek. And then the king of Sodom's like, hey, Abraham, I'll let you keep all this stuff, man. Just, you know, give me back my people. Even though he just got destroyed by those same kings, like he's in some opportunity to negotiate, appreciate same thing with Abraham. He says, no, no, man, you. You keep everything. You keep everything. Because I don't want you to say that you made me say that. God didn't make me, but you made me, right? Do you see what I'm saying? This isn't a one off thing, dude. So like Elijah, Elisha, the story of naaman, it's in 2 Kings, like 6 or 7 or somewhere in there. Naaman, who's like a big shot in the Syrian army, comes in to Israel to be healed by Elisha. He tells him, go dunk in the Jordan river seven times. And there's that whole thing, like, what? We have better rivers in Syria. I didn't come over here for that. And then his servant says, bro, bro, just go in there and dunk, man. Like, maybe it'll work. And then it does work, right? He gets healed of leprosy, right? Naaman comes back, he's healed of leprosy. He goes to Elisha, same thing. He says, bro, I got gold, I got silver, man. Like, we loaded up the horses, dude. Like, I got all this stuff for you. Elijah's like, no, I'm not taking your money, bro. Do you see what I'm saying? Like, this is our kingdom. We don't take the money. Money, especially from the world. But like, what is this thing today with the 501C3 system? Always asking for money.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, you're asking for money for the works of God.

[Matthew]

What is this? What's going on?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, it's interesting too, because if you, if you stick to that like it's not me, it's God. Then you're like, pay me for what God has done.

[Matthew]

It's just weird to me, bro. Yeah, just again, like my whole mindset is just straight Bible because I wasn't really a church guy, but I was a straight Bible guy and then I went to church and I was like, huh, this isn't really like adding up like some of this interesting. It's not adding. I'm not knocking it. If it comes in your church, do they.

[David Lee Corbo]

What do they speak in tongues?

[Matthew]

I definitely been to tongue churches.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

I've been in some wild. I've seen the real and the fake. I've seen the real for sure. Yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

The biblical precedent of what you're talking about, it's. It applies everywhere. I mean, you see it not like in my old job, but in. In this job that we're doing now with like podcasting, whatever. The people who kind of will take the money. Yeah, it's. It's. It's a crazy. I don't want shouting.

[Matthew]

No, but the church is supposed to be on the way highest plane, bro.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah, but it just, it, it just, you know, it's a fractal repeats itself. Yeah, but you'll see them, they'll be expediently taking money or after it and then once they do that, they're compromised in a way and it's just like.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Oh, then you have to like do short lived.

[Matthew]

Sponsored by Pfizer.

[David Lee Corbo]

Sponsored by Pfizer. Well that's something like anytime many such.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Cases you wouldn't you be surprised. But let's. Let's get back into.

[Matthew]

Okay, sorry, sorry. That was a bit of a.

[David Lee Corbo]

Please. Jeez, man, he's a chatty Cathy, isn't he?

[Matthew]

Oh, thou king, the most I got. Wait, today? Yes know I'm some morning, bro.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. Cuz you drank a smelling rain energy before you started.

[Matthew]

I didn't have the rain. I didn't have. Oh thou king, the most high God gave Nebuchadnezzar your father, a kingdom of majesty and glory and honor. Bro, this is a real one right here. Bro. This is a. Like my daughter, when she goes, you're a real one. Like she says that to me sometime.

[David Lee Corbo]

Like this she go, dad, you're based.

[Matthew]

No.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Matthew]

And for the majesty that he gave him, all people, nations and languages trembled and feared before. Before him, whom he would he slew, and whom he would he kept alive, and whom he would he set up, and whom he would he put down. But when his heart was lifted up and his mind hardened and pride. He was deposed from his kingly throne, and they took his glory from him. And he was driven from the sons of men, and his heart was made like the beast, and his dwelling was with the wild asses. They fed him with grass like oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven till he knew that the most high God ruled in the kingdom of men, and that he appoints over it, whoever he was will and you his son. Oh, Belshazzar has not humbled your heart, though you knew all this, but you've lifted up yourself against the Lord of heaven. And they brought the vessels of his house before thee. And thou and thy lords, thy wives and thy concubines have drunk wine in them. And you've praised the gods of silver, gold, brass, iron, wood and stone, which see not, nor hear, nor know. And the God in whose hand thy breath is and whose are all thy ways has thou not glorified so he did not know.

[David Lee Corbo]

He did know everything that his dad went through. He knew that he was made a Sasquatch for seven years, and this dude's still a dummy.

[Matthew]

But we can't miss this, that this is like the president. This is the king.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

What does this mean here? He was driven from the sons of men.

[Matthew]

That's. He's talking about Nebuchadnezzar.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah. The sons of men, though, like, I just as. Never mind. I guess humans. Humans. Humans, Right. Sons of God would be okay.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Sons of God could be humans when they're born again. That's what's John 1.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Right, right, right, right. Okay.

[David Lee Corbo]

That is crazy.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah. So he knew he had the ability.

[Matthew]

To become the sons of God.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Okay.

[Matthew]

So, yeah, he should have known. But I'm saying this is the president. It's like if he's talking to Trump and he just straight rebukes him, Trump says, I'll give you all this money. I'll give you everything. He. And instead of taking the money, you just straight rebukes him.

[David Lee Corbo]

We have the best money.

[Matthew]

I like that phrase. In 23. The God in whose hand thy breath is. Probably do us good to keep that in mind.

[David Lee Corbo]

So in other words, like, the God who. Who he's got, like, he's the one who. Whose word you live and die by. And.

[Matthew]

Yes.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Then was the part of the hand sent from him. So the hand has been still there the whole time. Right. So Daniel rebukes the king, and then.

[David Lee Corbo]

The hand just goes, oh. So this whole time they're Having this conversation. There's still a ghostly hand just writing verse 24. Just watching.

[Matthew]

Then was the part of the hand sent from him. Wow. So it's just been there.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It must have been writing slow. It wrote four words.

[Matthew]

Isn't there the thing in the movie, the.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

The Adams family?

[Matthew]

So, like, this stuff. There's so much stuff in our culture. Or like, you say the phrase. He saw the writing on the wall. Like, there's so many things in our culture that come from.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

He picked it. Picked the mic up just a little bit. Bend it at the elbow there. Yeah. But, yeah, somebody wrote a while ago, they were like, what did it write on the wall? And they said, you know, red rum. Red rum. This kind of thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

It drew a picture of a. Never mind.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

No, well, I mean, you've seen the Shining from Stanley Kubrick, right? Yeah, yeah, I hope. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

You got them all messed up. You got them all worried now up in the game.

[Matthew]

No, I feel okay, though.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, I mean, sorry, bro.

[Matthew]

I get hyper, bro. Sure.

[David Lee Corbo]

We're just trying to capture it all. That's the thing. We want to be able to capture.

[Matthew]

That this is good. Like this.

[David Lee Corbo]

You want to speak into the top of this thing?

[Matthew]

Okay. No, I get hyper on some.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's fine.

[Matthew]

Especially with the money, bro. I just feel like in the early church, right? Like, they. They, like wealthy people within the church brought their money, gave it to the apostles, and they distributed the money to the poor. They sold their extra land, like, any extra lands they had, they sold it. They gave the money to the apostles to distribute to the poor.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Right?

[Matthew]

Now we'll take the money from the poor to buy land and build buildings.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's so crazy.

[Matthew]

I'm just saying I want to be straight Bible. That's all I'm saying. I'm not trying to be ugly. I'm not trying to throw stones. I'm just saying I want to be straight Bible.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

No, you're right. This is what, again, what we learned yesterday, or. Yeah, what we learned sort of yesterday from show Sean. He's talking about the temples of God, the ones that they went to. They give their offerings. The. The excess was then redistributed to, like, widows.

[David Lee Corbo]

Widows, orphans. Yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Whereas the other.

[Matthew]

He.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

He compared some of these other temples. He's like, this was like the modern day Amazon warehouse where, like, all these. All these were, you know, all the offerings were given, and then the excess is just bartered, sold off, bro.

[Matthew]

Show me in the scripture where Jesus, Paul, anybody's asking for money, money for their Ministry, Right. For. For anything other than the poor.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

To.

[Matthew]

To be. To be precise. Because, like, the. The rich man comes to Jesus and they have that whole conversation, what must I do for eternal life? And he says, well, you know, the law, man. You know, the commands. And they have that whole exchange. And then in the end, he says, because I'm not going to get into all that, because that's a heavy topic. But in the end he says, sell all that you have and give your money to my ministry. No, he says, sell all you have and give the money to the poor.

[David Lee Corbo]

What do you think about, like, missionaries? Like, money for missionaries? Like, it's. It's a lofty thing to send people overseas, especially too. Like, you know, you're going.

[Matthew]

And I love the idea of money for missionaries here. Like, if there's missionaries in America, like, but at some point to say, how much do we spend from the building? And how much did we spend on the show for the music? For, like. Wait, what? Where does it say to spend that much money for.

[David Lee Corbo]

What about the light? The lights in the center?

[Matthew]

Oh, the light. The fog machine costs. How much? Like, like. Hold, hold on, hold on.

[David Lee Corbo]

If your church doesn't have a fog machine.

[Matthew]

Dude, hold on. I'm not, you know, like, I'm just saying, let's talk about it. Talk about. Do we really need all this stuff?

[David Lee Corbo]

Sure.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's a good question.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's a fair question.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Matthew]

Verse 25.

[David Lee Corbo]

That much?

[Matthew]

This is the writing. It's not red rum. Verse 25. This is the writing that was written many. Tel Abharin. This is the interpretation of the thing. Men. God has numbered thy kingdom and finished it. Tel. Thou art weighed in the balance and are found 1. Hunting Perez. Thy kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians. Then commanded Belshazzar, and they closed Daniel with scarlet and put a chain of gold on his neck, which was completely, completely irrelevant, as we'll see in a second. And made a proclamation concerning him that he would be the third ruler in the kingdom. But it didn't really matter because verse 30 in that night was Belshazzar, the king of the Chaldeans slain. Damn, that night, bro. So he's balling out, right? He's getting crunk. And the gold and silver cups he's balling out. That night he was slain, and Darius the Median took the king, being about 62 years old.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's crazy because I imagine, like, Daniel kind of sitting there, like, you know, he's putting this stuff on him and he's like, okay, yeah, fine. And he's just kind of sitting there, like, bummed out in a. In a fancy robe with the chain around his neck.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Daniel. I don't. Did he know the time and place that he would be killed or he just knew. He's like, this kingdom is going to be.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, he's just translating.

[Matthew]

Yeah. I don't know. Maybe he knew it was.

[David Lee Corbo]

I wonder what he's translating, too. Can you scroll up a little bit? I can see it from here. Tekel Perez.

[Matthew]

It's in verse 25. Many Tekela Parson.

[David Lee Corbo]

But it's interesting because say what a parson means, which is.

[Matthew]

But he does say Perez instead. So it's almost like a parson and Perez is the same word. So I don't know if this part's in Aramaic. I think this part's in Aramaic in like.

[David Lee Corbo]

So this is written in a. In a. In a. Just a language that the king didn't understand. It was some unspoken or some.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Honestly, maybe this part right here. Here a parson is probably like, yo, dog, you're going to die tonight. But he's like, I'll tell you about Perez. Someone else maybe.

[Matthew]

Oh, yeah, Interesting.

[David Lee Corbo]

I wonder about that, though. Like, no.

[Matthew]

Who knows what. L. No, no. I'm just saying that, like, I think the beginning of Daniel is written in Hebrew, but the. But a big chunk of it's written in Aramaic. I'm not a Bible scholar like that, but I think some of the. I'm just saying that some of this is Aramaic words, but was written on the wall. Who knows what it was? Was it Hebrew? And they didn't know how to speak Hebrew. I know. Don't know. Was it. I don't know what language that is. Maybe I should know that. But we could probably Google it and know it, but it's possible.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

But listen, this is the end of the chapter, I think.

[Matthew]

Are we wrapping up?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I think we should look at how he gets. I love.

[David Lee Corbo]

If you. If you put a stop to Matt talking about the Bible he does get. He'll negotiate. He'll go like, are we sure? Is this how a podcast.

[Matthew]

I just want to make sure everybody's done.

[David Lee Corbo]

Is everybody.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

So podcasts are only three hours.

[David Lee Corbo]

He's like a podcast. Are only three hours. Hours long.

[Matthew]

No, this one is a shorty, though, right? Is this like a 45 minute.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, this is exactly how long.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Oh, we went. It's almost two hours. Let's. Let's. We'll do a couple more minutes. I want to talk about, like, because.

[Matthew]

I don't want to go into six. Unless we're gonna go into six.

[David Lee Corbo]

Like, what's. Maybe without giving away too much, the.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Reason why I stopped, because I don't want to go into six, and then that takes another hour. But I do let. I want to. I want you to, like, just recap what we did here, where we're going to be going the next time.

[Matthew]

Okay. Okay.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

We're thinking about it.

[Matthew]

So the over. The overarching theme, you could say is like. Like, God sets up and tears down who he wants to set up and who he wants to tear down. He's already given this dream of the head of gold, the b, the chest of silver, the midsection of brass, and then the legs down. Iron. Iron.

[David Lee Corbo]

Iron.

[Matthew]

Clay. He's already made it clear, like, this is what's going to happen in history. Now we're seeing it unfold. Were we just wrapped up? So the Silver Kingdom just took over? The Gold Kingdom.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's dope.

[Matthew]

Yes, yes. So, Dan. So they've been in Babylon 70 years, which is what God told him ahead of time. He's in control the whole time. He's in control of history the entire time.

[David Lee Corbo]

What's his son's name? Does not seem like that dude was worried at all about.

[Matthew]

Because they had neural link of their day. They had Epstein. They had all this other stuff. Yeah, they had all this other stuff that they just weren't.

[David Lee Corbo]

He's like, dude, I'm moving around in my self. Driving car. You mean to tell me this is about to come to an end?

[Matthew]

Yeah. Yes, exactly.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's like, all right, Daniel, why don't you go ahead and wear that robe and wear that gold chain, homie, and pose for this music video for the next three hours. For the next three hours.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

So, yeah, it is crazy, too. Like, Belshazzar, he gave him the same name as pretty much as he gave Daniel.

[David Lee Corbo]

I wonder if they're f. Wait, I see you, bro.

[Matthew]

Is that what you're saying?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, that would make sense.

[Matthew]

You think he named him after Daniel?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah, dog. This dude is named.

[Matthew]

I've never heard that, but I don't. I mean, that's why I like you guys. You guys are, like, into cryptic stuff.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's not cryptic. It's right there. It's just missing.

[Matthew]

I know, but I've never heard anybody tie that together like that.

[David Lee Corbo]

It rhymes.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Like, that's how. I mean, listen, it would make sense. Like, this guy had such a profound.

[David Lee Corbo]

Impact on Nebuchadnezzar's life. Yeah.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's like, I named my son after you. That's a big blessing. And. And this dude. To ignore. To ignore Daniel, up until now, like, I didn't know about you. He's like, dog.

[Matthew]

I know, but this. I don't know why, but this keeps coming Back to Matthew 7, 24, 27. It's like, there's this thing about people who know, but they don't apply it.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

Do you see what I'm saying?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

How much is this happening in the church today, man? People know this stuff, and they're not applying it. Like, yeah, this dude definitely knew these stories. Daniel shows up, he goes, oh, you're that Daniel. Yeah, he knew the one I'm named after. He didn't apply it.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

You see what I'm saying? Like, this story, these. It's just like when my daughter, when I was reading her the book of judges when she was little. And it's. And it's the whole story. I probably already shared it a couple times with you guys, but just that, like, they do the same thing. They. They turn away from God. God saves them. They turn around God. And she ripped the covers off, said, daddy, why do they keep doing that? All the patterns just keep going, dude. Anything we're reading here and going, those losers and idiots. We're definitely doing it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yeah. 100.

[Matthew]

We're definitely doing it because these patterns don't change.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm very sure I'm guilty of it constantly, or else I wouldn't find myself in a constant state of repentance and diarrhea. And diarrhea. That's really the curse that's been laid upon me. Yeah, it's not good, man. Look, it is cool, though, to see somebody like Daniel. Like, I know it's not over yet, but, like, you know, because you. When you read or when you read about David, it's like David seems really based. And then David screws up in a huge way, you know? And it's like, it's cool. I like Daniel. He's, like, sticking to. I hope this doesn't end with Daniel being like, and then he killed the dude and banged his wife.

[Matthew]

No, he's got no. He's got no scandals, bro banger. And David really doesn't either. Well, until the one killer a man.

[David Lee Corbo]

And bangs his wife.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

David's given a lot more responsibility than Daniel. Daniel's kind of like. He's never, like, exalted to this kingship spot where you got to make all the. Like, you see, with these kings, man, they get Caught in these situations where they're dealing with the minutia the day to day and it's like, it's easy to forget. So I think maybe with David we see a little bit of that.

[Matthew]

I notice he also, yeah. Had unlimited power and nobody could tell him no. So the equivalent of him.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

That's a curse.

[David Lee Corbo]

He's.

[Matthew]

Yeah. Of him walking out on his balcony, seeing a chick on her balcony and saying, go get me that chick. That is no different than a dude today that can be in his room and pull up pornography on his phone. It's no different. Like that's what's so sketch and rough about the day we live in, bro. Like a dude back then didn't have that option. He had to work, right? Like he couldn't just go out on his balcony and get some chick off her balcony. There was a dude today could do it with his phone, bro. So we're living in the time of where everything is.

[David Lee Corbo]

You see in King David was. Have been subscribed to only fans.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Well, there was a, there was a stand up comedian that like told this joke a long time ago where they're like, you know, oh, women are like all this, they talk all this crap about like Tiger woods at the time because he was cheating on his wife with all these women. And he's like. And, and dudes too. He's like, but shame on the dudes that are talking. He's like, you have no idea what.

[Matthew]

It would be like if you were in that role.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's because it's not just like, you don't, you are not, you're not in that situation where like and these women are throwing themselves at you.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. That's like rock stars. Like, you know all this scandal that comes up with like an 80s hill hair metal and it's like, dude, do you understand, understand what that was like?

[Matthew]

Like, that's why you got to be like Daniel back in Chapter one. He purposed in his heart ahead of time. You have to do that in this life because who knows if you guys are gonna blow up, right? I mean, I have a feeling you're gonna. You see what I'm saying? You guys start blowing up and then if you don't purpose in your heart ahead of time, you guys are going astray. Yeah. You guys are hanging with Peter Thiel Elon.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's who we're doing a show with next. You know, it's, it's crazy because you should though.

[Matthew]

He's got intriguing views on the end.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, no, that dude is.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I'M we're gonna. We should cover that.

[David Lee Corbo]

We're gonna talk about that. Yeah. It's one of the topics we're gonna talk about in this coming episode. But I. I also like the way that David seminar. We should.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

We should like. Like, check it out.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay. All right.

[Matthew]

Sorry, David.

[David Lee Corbo]

Because it wasn't just the whole, you know, killing a man and then banging his wife. Like, if you look at what happened to his son, like, Solomon really got all twisted. And it's like, as. As a parent. Parent, you know, you feel connected to the fate of your children, so anything that befalls them befalls you as well. So it's like. Like a lot of things really sucked.

[Matthew]

Yeah. Well, that was the curse that got put on him was that his whole family would be at war from now on. And that's exactly what happened. That's when the kingdom split, man. It was only under. All of Israel was only under one king during David and Solomon. And then right after that, boom, there's a split.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

And, I mean, it was Saul, David, and Solomon, and. And then, boom, the split. You've got Israel proper and then Judah. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't know. I. I just look at that. Like, man, that's a. That. That is a curse. You know, you watch your son. You're so close to God, you slip up in this major way, and then you get to watch your son basically fall into what is the biggest temptation, which is that of the enemy.

[Matthew]

Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

That of the adversary. It's. If you really believe that he's using, you know, demons to be. Build his temple, and he's building temples to the gods of his. Of his concubines.

[Matthew]

Well, yeah, that's all. That part's definitely biblical. The Egyptian women and, like, the other women, like, took him astray to worship ashoreth. And then he started, bro, do you know, when I first read about Solomon, I didn't read that. He fell off. I didn't finish reading. I just read about Solomon. Like, God came to him in a dream. It was like eight years where I was like. Remember I was, like, 19 when I first got a Bible.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Matthew]

From 19 to, like, 28. I was like, yo, Solomon's a man. I didn't know anything. Anything else about it. Then there was a day when I read the rest of the story, and I was depressed for, like, a week.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's hilarious.

[Matthew]

Like, an entire week.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I was like, well, Solomon was the man. He's just, like, the smartest dude on earth.

[Matthew]

He was so cool, man. Some of the stuff he did he's like, oh, you guys. Oh. You say, it's your baby. And you say, it's your baby. No problem. Cut it in half. Cut it in half. And the one lady's like, yeah, cut it in half. The other one's like, no, no, she can have him. He goes, okay. Clearly it's her child. This guy's the best.

[David Lee Corbo]

What a tricky. Yeah, that's a gangster move. Well, listen, the people really like this, Matt. How do you feel about that?

[Matthew]

Wait, can we talk to the people?

[David Lee Corbo]

We can't talk to them.

[Matthew]

We gotta go.

[David Lee Corbo]

I guess maybe we can talk to them.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's real.

[Matthew]

Real.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

They're just doxing. They're doxing us. Wow. Yeah, we're not gonna pull that one up.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's mostly. I look at it. They're just calling me fat.

[Matthew]

They said, don't stop.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, they don't want it to stop. They don't understand that we have to go.

[Matthew]

And they're not saying that you're overweight. They're just saying it'd be. Be healthier for you to be exercising, eating right. It's all. They're concerned with your health.

[David Lee Corbo]

I am exercising and eating right, and there's no reason to be concerned with my health.

[Matthew]

I respect that.

[David Lee Corbo]

You know what it is? I just have, like, a. I'm just not built great, and I just. This. This seat creates, like, a slouching effect where, like, I can't really sit up straight. And then my body looks all.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Somebody. Someone in the Patreon saw the first episode we did at the coffee shop, and they're like, it would be a smart. Like, they were like, I'm so smart. It'll be a great idea. Have you thought of this? Have this guy back on and maybe do, like, a series with him. And I was like, he'll be on tomorrow. And they were like, what? And I was like, yeah, tune in 11 or 1145. He'll be here.

[David Lee Corbo]

Somewhere in there.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Somewhere in this time frame.

[Matthew]

Yeah, yeah, we'll be here.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

We'll be here.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, people really like it. I really like it. This is good for me as somebody who can't read. By the way, Matt got me a. What is it? A new inspired version.

[Matthew]

Version nlt, New living translation.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't know what the.

[Matthew]

Any plain English. Super plain.

[David Lee Corbo]

And I haven't read it yet, but I'm gonna read it. And I have.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Mine's upstairs. It's in the room, man.

[Matthew]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

But I'm really appreciative of that because.

[Matthew]

I've spoken You guys just have it like laying around and you're not reading it?

[David Lee Corbo]

No, it's on my. It's at the foot of my bed.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I don't read here.

[David Lee Corbo]

I've been collecting Bibles.

[Matthew]

Okay, so you have been reading it?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, I've been trying to lie to you. Why are you gonna let him lie to you like that? Why are you gonna lie to him like that?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I'm reading through kings. I actually like that book.

[Matthew]

Kings or two kings?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

First. First one.

[Matthew]

So I like story you reading about.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

We're at the first chapter, dog.

[Matthew]

What's happening?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

We're reading about it. This guy's testing me.

[David Lee Corbo]

Give a summary.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

That's hurtful.

[Matthew]

Yeah, you gotta read it quiet and enter into that whole thing with God while you're in it, man. I mean, I get it. The Kardashians and Justin Bieber's like calling them. But like, it's way more.

[David Lee Corbo]

Justin Bieber is a sad, sad.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

This guy isn't.

[Matthew]

I don't know enough about him, but the girls in the shop always try to put him on the radio. He's a good.

[David Lee Corbo]

He seems a good musician and he seems like a sad kid. Well, he's like an adult now, but he seems like a sad, lost dude that his mother gave him up to the music industry when he was a child.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

And so, Matt, do you want one of these? Because I see you looking at this as I spin it.

[Matthew]

No, I just thought that was like a 10 years ago thing and I was like, do I bring it up?

[David Lee Corbo]

No, it's. It's an autism thing.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's a thing I do.

[Matthew]

Yeah, I respect that.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's nice.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, I actually really like that one. It's got a tactile feel. It's got a lot of clickies in it. Guys, this has been the. The second episode of our Bible study with mat of the standard coffee shop. If you're in Florida and you're not going to the standard coffee shop, you're probably going to go to hell.

[Matthew]

No, you didn't mean to say that. He's just saying you're probably a wanker if you.

[David Lee Corbo]

If that's what wanking gets you.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

If you're here in Florida and you. And you have like a free coffee to the standard coffee shop and you don't get that. I don't know what you're doing.

[David Lee Corbo]

What does that mean?

[Matthew]

You guys don't have to blow up the shop like this. I really do appreciate it, but you really don't have. We're going to blow it Up.

[David Lee Corbo]

We're going to. We're going to drive a small plane into it.

[Matthew]

You guys don't have to do that. Man. That's really neat what you did with the logo.

[David Lee Corbo]

Isn't that cool? That's awesome.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

It's cool. I like solid. That looks pretty cool.

[Matthew]

Wait, Do I get to say a thing at the end?

[David Lee Corbo]

No, you've really said a lot.

[Matthew]

Okay. No, that's true.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

No, but I mean. Go for it.

[Matthew]

Fine.

[David Lee Corbo]

Go ahead.

[Matthew]

Okay. You got to read a Bible and you got to read it on a regular basis. And you've got to apply it to your life. Am I looking at it there?

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

You look at it.

[Matthew]

You've got to apply it to your life. That read Matthew 7, 24, 27. It's talking about those who hear the sayings of Jesus, Jesus and do it. And those who hear the sayings of Jesus and doeth it not is what it says in the King James. But you've got to read a Bible to become intimate with God. Not to win debates, not to have perfect theology, not to have perfect doctrine, but to know the Lord and be intimate with him. And then you need to be applying it to your life. It doesn't all need to happen overnight. It could be slow steps. You don't have to read 10 chapters a day. You could read one chapter a day. You can read a half a chapter a day. Day. But you start to. You have to start to cultivate that the same way you would with exercise. You don't just go run 10 miles. Right? You just jog a little bit around the block. It's no problem. You walk half of it. You do the same thing. And you cultivate your spirit the same way you cultivate your natural man. It's the same way.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Beautiful. You know what? Tell the people. Just. Just point to the camera and go. Don't forget to obey, submit and comply and we'll get out of here.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. No to guys. God. That's what we're talking about.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Don't worry about it. Just do it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Look at that camera right there.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

You gotta do it.

[David Lee Corbo]

If you have to do it.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

You're bringing the show out.

[Matthew]

Come on. Let the raven do it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Dude.

[Matthew]

No.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't like doing it.

[Matthew]

All right. It's top lobster.

[David Lee Corbo]

All right.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

I'm not. I'm not.

[Matthew]

The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

You can persuade that what they see.

[Matthew]

With their eyes is what there is to see, because they'll act in the face of an explanation that portrays the.

[Unnamed Co-host / Producer]

Bigger picture of what and they have.