Are UFOs Time Travelers? w/ Doenut

Summary

Nephilim Death Squad – Episode: "Are UFOs Time Travelers?" w/ Doenut

Date: November 7, 2025
Host: TopLobsta Productions (Top Lobsta & Raven)
Guest: Donut (D O E N U T, aka Dipsy Hustle)
Theme: Exploring conspiracy theory culture—especially UFOs, time travel, and historical psy-ops—through a biblical and philosophical lens, with digressions into media, propaganda, and the importance of humor.

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Episode Overview

In this playful yet probing episode, Raven and Top Lobsta welcome the ever-eclectic Donut (a.k.a. Dipsy Hustle, in full Teletubby regalia) for a wide-ranging discussion. The trio examines the nature of UFO phenomena—exploring theories that blend time travel, biblical prophecy, and media manipulation. They question if aliens are actually us, traveling from another era, and unpack the ways Hollywood and pop culture seed and shape our expectations about "the phenomenon." Along the way, the conversation weaves through philosophy, trauma-based mind control, propaganda, faith, and the powerful antidote that is humor.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Guest Introduction & UFO Obsession (03:20–05:16)

• Donut is greeted warmly (“Happy Birthday!”) and plugs his simple online presence (“D O E N U T. That’s it.”).
• Donut’s current interest: Time-traveling Nordic aliens, inspired by the book Closer Encounters by Ereza Giorgiani.
• “Dude, this is crazy! Time traveling, Nordic aliens, right? Master race from outer space kind of stuff... flying around there, time traveling.” — Donut [06:54]

2. UAPs & Governmental Language Games (07:00–11:01)

• Examining the term "UAP" (Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena) replacing "UFO."
• The hosts question the agenda: Is it about redefining the phenomenon by omitting abduction stories (“by omission of the fourth kind,” Donut suggests)?
• Connections between the Rockefeller family, the Clintons, and the “Alien Psyop” are discussed.
• Early reported UFO-related shutdowns of nuclear missile sites (Malmstrom incident, 1967).

3. Aliens as Time-Traveling Humans and Hollywood's Influence (14:18–20:17)

• Donut proposes: “A lot of people subscribe to this ideology that what we would interpret as different species of aliens are actually just our own species from different time eras.”
• Examples from pop culture (Dude, Where’s My Car?, Idiocracy) are dissected as vehicles for time-travel/alien tropes—possibly programming or trivializing deeper truths.
• “Do you think it’s meant, like, to muddy the waters?” — Raven
  “I don’t think it’s there to muddy the waters... Because it’s connected the dots for me as, you know, a Teletubby.” — Donut [19:15]

4. Abductees, Raelian Cults, and the Seed War (24:29–34:38)

• Focus on hybridization: Why are abduction stories always so fixated on sexual experimentation?
• Discussion of the Raelian movement—mixing Elohim (biblical divine/demonic entities), cloning, and sexuality. Kanye West’s controversial Raelian tweet is referenced.
• The biblical “Seed War” (Genesis 3:15) is unpacked, connecting nephilim, modern abduction lore, and hybridization as a recurring, ancient pattern.

5. Frequency, Parasitic Entities, and the Power of Ritual (37:16–47:59)

• The trio breaks down recent media (Weapons, White Noise) as revelatory and encoded with occult symbolism (numerology, voodoo rituals, parasitism, frequency warfare).
• Notable: “Parasites” and frequency, as well as recurring numbers (esp. 217 and 1948), are interpreted as symbolic signals or programming.
• “So just kind of fun. I’m gonna wait...” — Donut on the endless rabbit holes [18:35]

6. Synchronization, Manipulation, and Propaganda (54:37–60:42)

• How "revelation of the method" occurs: Parallelisms between movie plots and real-world events (e.g., White Noise and the real East Palestine train derailment).
• “I think what is going on is not only the movies telling us it, the books, but even... food products... everywhere.” — Donut [54:37]
• Mountain Dew’s trademark is revealed to be from 1948 (“What the... All right. See what I mean?” — Top Lobsta [59:58])

7. Psychological Warfare & The Power of Humor (62:07–76:28)

• Discussion of how propaganda and controversy (especially via social media) are designed to keep the public polarized and on-edge.
• The importance of rhythm, music, and emotional state in both programming and breaking free: “Comedy does the same thing [as a bell against a demon]—because it’s probably the same frequency... Comedy is stepping back from that. That’s why it’s so genius, and that’s why you have to have that high intelligence to even be on that spectrum.” — Donut [87:48]

8. Faith, Attitude, and Choosing Joy (80:32–95:23)

• The crew emphasizes self-determination over emotional and spiritual state—regardless of larger manipulations.
• “Ultimately, I can’t see around the corner. So whatever your plan is, so... once you do that, it’s like, what the hell are you gonna be afraid of, bro?” — Raven [95:23]
• Donut opens up about his recovery journey and how faith, courage, and attitude have been essential: “Courage is like, you’re scared, but you still do it anyway.” [82:47]

9. Building Community, Staying Positive, and Entwining Faith with Action (96:49–100:23)

• The hosts and Donut reflect on the importance of collaboration, supporting fellow content creators, and the necessity of maintaining joy and camaraderie in an often bleakly conspiratorial landscape.
• “That fear, it’s also addicting. So a lot of people go to their favorite content creator just to be afraid... we don’t do that here.” — Raven [94:05]
• “Man plans, God laughs.” — Donut on divine oversight [92:53]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Time-Traveling Aliens:
  “Time traveling, Nordic aliens, right? Master race from outer space kind of stuff... these Nordic aliens been doing this since the 1850s... That’s sort of where my mind is at.” — Donut [06:54]

• On Abductions & Hybridization:
  “These damn aliens. Right. Which are just Nordic human ancestry. They're doing a ton of the experiments sexually with the abductees. In all the cases.” — Donut [24:29]

• On Memetic Manipulation:
  “We're being subjected to the most sophisticated propaganda machine in the history of humanity... every once in a while, I get, like, a reality check. About just how sophisticated that propaganda machine is.” — Raven [57:28]

• On Hollywood, Comedy, and Disarming Propaganda:
  “Comedy does the same thing [as bells in folklore]... it creates a state of disassociation... If an opponent is like throwing something at you to be like blap with something funny, it just changes everything energetically.” — Donut [73:40]

• On Breaking Free, Faith, and Responsibility:
  “There’s that aspect which gets removed. And so there’s All. There’s also that as well... man plans, God laughs.” — Donut [92:53]

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Selected Timestamps for Important Segments

• Donut’s UFO & “Nordic alien” time travel introduction: 06:54
• Abduction language & “seed war”/bloodlines: 31:34–34:38
• Hollywood’s psyop and subliminals in media: 19:15, 41:38, 54:37
• White Noise & predictive programming: 51:28–54:37
• On the emotional/psychological impact of memes & algorithms: 62:07–65:11
• Choosing attitude and “feeding the happy wolf”: 80:32–84:53
• Man plans, God laughs—on faith & surrender: 92:53–93:20

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Final Thoughts & Takeaways

Faith and Perspective as Shields:
The group ultimately argues that, while the world is filled with manipulation—through media, language, and spiritual psy-ops—faith, humor, and conscious attitude are powerful antidotes.
Community Over Isolation:
They warn against “black pilling”; the psychological burden of constant negative revelations. Instead, they embrace building supportive relationships and creating together. Don’t Underestimate the Power of Laughter:
Humor isn’t just a coping mechanism—it’s a subtle form of resistance, a way to reframe the programming and avoid spiritual and psychological traps.

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Where to Find Donut

• Patreon & YouTube: D O E N U T (no other specifications)
• Recommended: His “UFO documentary of the Akashic Files,” time-traveling research, and Illuminati comics (especially with Paranoid American).

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Closing Vibe:
A conspiracy roundtable that’s as playful and hopeful as it is thought-provoking, reminding listeners to stay vigilant yet joyful, always questioning, and never allowing fear to rule the mind or soul.

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“Absolutely.” — Donut, asked if he’s still having fun [103:33]

Transcript

[Donut]

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[Raven]

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[Raven]

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[Raven]

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[Donut]

Okay.

[Raven]

Like a freshly baked cookie made with real butter, available right down the street at am pm. Or a savory breakfast sandwich I can grab in just a second at a.m. pM. I'm seeing a pattern here. Well, yeah, we're talking about what I crave, which is anything from am, pm. What more could you want? Stop by ampm where the snacks and drinks are perfectly craveable and convenient. That's cravenience ampm. Too much. Good stuff.

[Donut]

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[Raven]

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[Raven]

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[Top Lobster]

Top Lobster Productions.

[Raven]

Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven, that is Top Lobster, the father of Guamin and blapping.

[Top Lobster]

We was just.

[Raven]

We were saying the whole intro should just be us going blappity blap, Guamin and Guamin. Before we get into today's guests, which I'm very excited to talk to today's guest, we got to tell you guys where you can find us around the half an hour mark when we mysteriously disappear to the patreon.com/now/nephilim death squad. I gotta send my wife. My wife. I gotta send her a link because she's like, how come I can't. I'm married to you and I can't continue watching past the half an hour mark.

[Top Lobster]

Stop being a poor.

[Raven]

That's what I'm saying. I gotta do that, though. I don't know how to do that.

[Top Lobster]

And then she'd be able to buy tickets.

[Raven]

Where I hope that Our guest today will be. I hope he'll join us.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, we have to get there.

[Raven]

Yeah, he's. He's an integral part of Bohemian Grove, and he also runs the merch stand with Thomas Paranoid American. All this stuff is there. Plus discount codes off of merchandise from Toplops.com. i'm actually wearing the Top Lopster's dog, man. Can't show off your hoodie because that's not available. That's exclusive.

[Top Lobster]

I made this myself.

[Raven]

But this one's not. You can buy these and you can get the sneakers to match and do that whatnot. Joining us today is Donut. Everybody say, what up, Donut? I want to start by first saying happy birthday to you, Donut.

[Donut]

Yo, yo, what up? It's Donut. Thank you.

[Raven]

Before we get into today's show, and we're going to talk about weapons.

[Top Lobster]

Dude, no. First off, happy birthday.

[Raven]

Happy birthday.

[Top Lobster]

Don't just get past that.

[Raven]

No, I did. I said, happy birthday, Donut. By.

[Top Lobster]

By this time, you got to be like 130, I think. So what's happening?

[Donut]

It's my birthday. Every time somebody in the chat room wishing me happy birthday, I like it.

[Top Lobster]

Hell, yeah.

[Raven]

I think it's a reasonable thing to do, is wish Donut happy birthday. Chat. Please make sure you wish him a happy birthday before we get into the show today. Where can everybody. Where can everybody find you?

[Donut]

You can find me at D O E N U T Donut.

[Top Lobster]

Donut dot com. That's it. He's just like, there's no other specifications. Like, just type it in.

[Raven]

Master of plugs, dude.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. Again, love Donuts aesthetic.

[Raven]

You know what's really funny? I just made an observation. His twin brother.

[Top Lobster]

He's got a twin brother.

[Raven]

Austin Picard.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, yeah.

[Raven]

Is does the opposite. He does the lengthiest plugs in the world. And then Donut just does. He just. Is just Donut.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Raven]

Where can people find you, Donut?

[Donut]

I was studying the master of, you know, the world. President Trump. Right?

[Raven]

Yes.

[Donut]

Yes, it's just Trump. You know, so, like, coming from another planet as a Teletubby.

[Raven]

Yes.

[Donut]

I like to see and meet with the most powerful individuals on your plane. And thank you for having me on your channel. Your aesthetics are incredible. Mds. Awesome. Thank you for that, bro.

[Top Lobster]

I thought he forgot.

[Donut]

If you don't go to the Bro Grove, I mean, you're just not living life. And shout out to, are you coming to Bro Grove?

[Raven]

When is is the first week of March. The first Friday and Saturday of March.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, by the way, we have One more plug.

[Raven]

We have one more plug.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, you could buy us a coffee.

[Raven]

We're doing that now.

[Top Lobster]

You can call this number. You call Matt, buy us a coffee when we're live.

[Raven]

Matt with three T's, because we are coming at you live from the standard coffee shop and casino. Casino/nds studios, which is where the VIP experience is going to be. Donut. When we do Bohemian Grove the first weekend in March, which I'm really hoping you're going to be there, the VIP day is going to be here. We're going to be hanging with all of the dangerous in the chat. People are going to come and, you know, it'll be some food, some drinks, just. Just to hang. We might do a live podcast, and then the next day is going to be all the performances. So, yeah, I mean, if you guys want to buy. If you want to see us on more caffeine, which I got to admit, I like you on caffeine. And I think it was unanimously decided by the chat. We saw you get a bunch of caffeine in you last time and you lit up and you were happy and light and airy. And so please, guys, call 352-775-8358. Wow.

[Top Lobster]

Good eyes.

[Raven]

And buy, buy Tapa.

[Top Lobster]

No, you don't have to buy me a coffee. You could buy the next person a coffee. Just support the standard coffee shop. Whatever you want to do. Or don't do that. But yeah. Anyway, let's get into the show. I'm excited about what we're talking about here today, Donut.

[Raven]

Well, we spoke a little bit and I kind of wanted to launch the discussion. And then wherever it goes, it goes. You know, Donut saying he's into all the stuff that's going on with UFOs, UAPs, but who isn't?

[Donut]

Dude, this is crazy. Time traveling, Nordic aliens, right? Master race from outer space kind of stuff. You know, I'm Teletubby. I'm out there up there, you know, in my event horizon, uap, flying around there, time traveling. But these Nordic aliens been doing this since the 1850s through that 30 point. So absolutely fascinating. I know we're going to focus on other stuff, but that's sort of where my mind is at is this book I'm been reading called Closer Encounters and Closer Encounters. Yeah. So that term was coined by J. Allen Hynek. Closer Encounter. But this book's Closer Encounters, Ereza Giorgiani. And he also coined the term UAP and UAPs, like all over the news right now with Marco Rubio saying that these alien crafts are over our nuclear facilities, which goes back to the even 50s with the maelstrom incident where there was this spoofing going on with the computer screen saying like the aliens are like turning on and off the nuclear sites and whatnot. And I read an article by Canadian Patriot Matt Ehrett where he went over the Rockefeller MK Ultra and the Clintons connection to the alien psyop. Right, the psychological Clintons. Yeah, the freaking Clintons. They were hanging out with Rockefeller, Lawrence Rockefeller. So this has been a big agenda with the aliens. And when I was a little tubby, I was just not like tubby, like, like sumo tubby, even though I was.

[Raven]

A little bit heavier when I was a kid too.

[Donut]

I remember seeing the, the Teletubbies up there, like in California on the billboard, and it was magical. They were doing like sun worship. They had like the baby sun above them. And I was like, that's, that's, that's it. Like being just indoctrinated with octopus aliens. From the Simpsons to the Teletubbies. Seeing them Teletubbies on the Similacra for me to imitate into a hyper reality, which I'm now a freaking dips Dipsy.

[Raven]

Is it Dipsy? I thought it was Lala. No, Lala is the purple one.

[Donut]

Lala is the yellow one.

[Raven]

My mistake.

[Top Lobster]

Please get it right.

[Donut]

You know what I'm saying?

[Raven]

Shout out to Po. Shout out to Po. Well, all right. So, so first off, the, the Maelstrom incident or Malmstrom UFO incident. Right, that's what you said. I'm mispronouncing it. 1967, it's a retired Air Force personnel claimed that a weapons failure at a Montana nuclear missile complex in 67 was connected to reports of a UFO sighting over Malmstrom Air Force Base. And so, yeah, this is something that is pretty consistent. You've got all these reports of like UFOs allegedly shooting a laser beam at a missile and disarming it. I know it's not happening in a vacuum. There's like, this is one of, of several times where UFOs, whatever they are, and I guess we'll get into a discussion about that or UAPs, which, yeah, has kind of become the, the, the, the term most associated with the phenomenon right Now, I didn't know that it was coined that long ago in, in Close Encounters or whenever that book came out. I thought that that was. Oh, I guess it's 2021. So that kind of makes sense because I heard Hillary Clinton was the first one, speaking of the Clintons, to use the term on, you know, television is the first time that I had heard it used, it came out of her mouth and I thought that sucks, man. Like, I don't like that we're changing the language. Do you know why donut they change the language? Is it because. Go ahead.

[Donut]

Hypothesis. Why is in this research I'm doing with the. With this book and whatnot is because it is by omission of the fourth kind. Right? You got Close Encounters of the first kind, which is seeing a uap and that's all the news talks about. But they're leaving out the abductions part because there's a bunch of reports of abductions going back in time. But the fascinating thing is with movie culture and programming, right. And how connected it is to the nationalistically socialist parties where you get these Nordic aliens. And reading this book and connecting it, he was going through all these older books and this certain ideology going back to this occult secret society of the Thule Society, which is very much connected to just an Atlantis society and Limu imu.

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[Raven]

Uh, Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us.

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[Raven]

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[Donut]

Book [e-mail] I just thought this is so fascinating. I got, you know, removed off of Vimeo for being anti. You. You know, I'm not even gonna say the word. You know what I mean?

[Raven]

You don't it really.

[Top Lobster]

No. Say it.

[Raven]

I think you could say it. Yeah.

[Donut]

You know, but I always remove being one myself.

[Raven]

So yes, being an anti.

[Donut]

Really pissed off about that. And it was covering this because I want to know the truth about the occult origins, the hidden history of what's going on like these world. The world view warfare going on in everybody's minds right now, where I've held different world views, where I was like all about Alien Workshop and X Files and all that. And then I'm reading this, I'm like, oh man, I've been psyop. And this book has really sparked my imagination where they're time traveling human ancestry. So they're not aliens. They're part of our human ancestry. And if there are aliens, they're the octopi, the octopus. I mean, the octopus.

[Raven]

Well, that's plural. I think you were right the first time that, that, that's an interesting concept because I hear that a lot of people subscribe to this ideology that what we would interpret as different species of aliens are actually just our own species from different time eras, I suppose, that are all time traveling back to our current era for. For whatever reason. Is that, is that kind of the gist of it?

[Donut]

Absolutely, that's exactly what it is. And then I'm thinking about all the other movie programming. Dude, where's my car? You have the two Nordic aliens looking for the continuum.

[Raven]

You said, you know what this is? This is Matt of the standard coffee shop. And you said, can you back up a little bit, Max, so we can see you because you're very tall and we have this thing that's chest height. Well, but you said time travel. And that's kind of a big deal for Matt. Matt really likes time travel. Well, that's your thing, isn't it? Right? It's like Matt, who's straight Bible, but is also like super big into time travel.

[Donut]

A vision.

[Raven]

And then he's talking to people.

[Donut]

Another time period.

[Raven]

I don't think we can hear him. Can't hear, but it's kind of the best if he's watching.

[Top Lobster]

He thinks time travel is biblical, which it may be.

[Donut]

Well, I read his mind. I know what he was saying. I used.

[Raven]

Oh, because you had the Teletubby thing. So he read your mind. He knew what you said. But this is crazy though.

[Donut]

The time traveling Trump, 1890s, right? The singularity event of time travel where they discovered this was like around 1850, around that time, around this time of the 1850s to 1890s. You got the time Traveling Trump plus the Titanic. And it's also connected to the Titanic with Tesla. Like, so JP Morgan, he was funding the, the Third Realm with like Ford and Carnegie and Wall Street. There's a lot of, you know, books about that out there. How Wall street fun, you know, funds all these different wars and movements and whatnot. But the Titanic had This dude astor on it. And he was funding Tesla's research. Same thing with J.P. morgan and company. And after he sank in the Titanic, being that prominent member of the type on the Titanic that day left Tesla to not have the time traveling like zero point energy stuff. So I mean it's just all kind of. It's just strange connecting the dots.

[Raven]

Was, was, was as tour human. It just. I have that because it sounds like such an alien name. Was it like, was.

[Donut]

It sounds like like a goddess name, right?

[Raven]

Yeah, it does, it does. But as far as we're concerned, he's just a regular dude.

[Donut]

I don't know. But this, this book just got. I'm not even all the way done with it. I'm like halfway through it. So I'm just. It's wild. And then the dude, where's my car? I believe that just like learning about all these other books about time traveling Nordic aliens and the grays being the robots that a lot of these movies in Hollywood and we shall get to weapons, but they're not just running off of just creativity that they're stealing these ideas and then mixing it in. And dude, where's my car? Has the, the tease in it. I won't even say that. You know.

[Raven]

Yeah, it has teas in it.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, yeah, alluded to.

[Donut]

Yeah, there's a tease in it and that's what it says on Wikipedia. And but him. Them losing the car is because of the Mandela effect, right? Which is part of the time traveling. So like the time travel isn't like you're going like. It's sort of like gameplay in a video game, how you can go back to a different game state. And so I think that that was kind of tied into it. And then you even have the time machine and idiocracy. Like that whole movie is about finding the time machine. And it's also connected to like the, the National Socialist, the United nations and the dinosaurs. So just kind of fun. I'm gonna, I'm gonna wait.

[Raven]

Well, that's wild because they, they're. They're. Yeah, I guess they are rolling in really huge topics into like some of the most comedic movies of all time. Like, I don't know what that is. Is it to say, don't take this seriously at all? Like, if you hear anything about that in the future, you would associate that with like, dude, where's my car? Is just a silly good time, right? So it's like if you hear anything about time travel or, you know, one thing or another and you go, oh, dude, that's from Dude, Where's My Car? Or, like, that's from Idiocracy. Like, that's goofy. That's not. That's not real. Is it meant. Do you think it's meant to, like, kind of, I don't know, muddy the Waters?

[Donut]

I don't think it's there to muddy the waters, in my opinion. I think that because it's connected the dots for me as, you know, a Teletubby. As a Teletubby, I. Why transitioned into. I wasn't born. Y' all probably know me as Donut, but it's Dipsy Hustle up in here now.

[Raven]

But Dipsy Hustle. Unbelievable. Grinding on my life. All right, so I love that song, by the way. I keep choosing it for every time we like something. I have a hard time not making it the Instagram music that plays for our post.

[Top Lobster]

So.

[Raven]

Okay, so this idea of Hollywood presenting us these concepts, you don't necessarily think that it's obfuscation or meant to muddy the waters? I mean, you yourself are putting these pieces together. I guess you're right. There are people that are putting the pieces together kind of scattered throughout all these Hollywood films, but they have been telling us, I guess, what could be considered the truth just through pieces of.

[Donut]

Fiction and even the music industry. Like Kanye, he got removed for tweeting about the alien cult. So that's the one thing Elon did not like was the Raelian cult being tweeted out. So it's just strange, like, all. All of it together. I feel like something going on.

[Raven]

Well, that's something top. You've talked about a lot. This. This Raelian cult thing. You actually. I didn't see the significance of it until you bought it up. And then we started looking into it, and I was like, oh, my God.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, he said. Because I was following very closely at the time, and that was like, where anti Semitic sentiments were, like, running really high, especially from Kanye west, mainly coming from him. And then he posted that, which is. It's like the Star of David or REM Fan or whatever. Whatever, you know, up triangle, down triangle, and within it is the Nazi swastika, which, honestly, is very esthetically pleasing when you look at it, because.

[Raven]

Oh, it does. It just flows together.

[Top Lobster]

So, I mean, there are two powerful symbols, right? It's like the. Is it the North Star, this idea.

[Raven]

Of, like, the procession of the equinox? I think it's the observation of the Big Dipper as it moves around like the north stars.

[Top Lobster]

I mean, I'm not And then the divine feminine.

[Raven]

Divine, divine, masculine, which is also an elemental thing too. Like that upward triangle. Downward triangle. Yet it's. It symbolizes a lot of different things.

[Top Lobster]

But it's powerful symbology. But Elon was like, that's a step too far, buddy. I know, I know you're posing hardcore black porn on here, but you can.

[Raven]

Don't do that one.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, those specific lines in that arrangement will get you banned off of Twitter. And that was like when he first brought it. So there was like a big. There's a concerted effort to make it seem like this is a very free speech platform. And, you know, it has been in a way, but it also hasn't been. So it was. That was telling for me as well, because I. I was doing like deep, deep studies on the Raelian cult and what they were doing. And that stuff goes into not just like the worship of Elohim, which. Elohim would be the classification of what God is. And the angels or demons or fallen angels, you know, whatever you may have it. That's a classification of entity. Which also could be an alien, possibly. Like.

[Raven]

Well, that's what Cliff High thinks he calls him. The Elohim worship culture.

[Top Lobster]

The tall whites, the.

[Raven]

What do they call the thick whites?

[Top Lobster]

The thick whites, the shout out to Tupacabra, the draconians, you know, the lizard people, all this kind of stuff. They are classified. And like, if you kind of look at the mythology, they could be Elohim. So that religion is on to something. And then also, by the way, we're doing like a. Not just a sex cult, but a lot of cloning. A lot of cloning, yeah. Behind the scenes. And that's kind of what got them jammed up in the United States, the idea of cloning. Tie that into whatever Elon Musk is doing with his IVF program and the government rolling out.

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[Raven]

Uh, Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching us.

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[Raven]

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[Top Lobster]

Excludes Massachusetts government funded ivf where they store your eggs. And it's just kind of like, what are you doing with, you know, everybody's sperm and the eggs? It's like if. If you wanted to run a cloning program, I would collect all the come. Well, yeah.

[Raven]

Eggs.

[Top Lobster]

You collect all the sperm, and you don't even need to abduct people. They'll just give it to you.

[Raven]

Well, that's true. Yeah. I think it used to be a lot harder when you used to have to abduct them.

[Top Lobster]

You had to get in there and.

[Raven]

Now just lap it out. Yeah. And now they're like, take my eggs, daddy.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Donut]

These damn aliens. Right. Which are just Nordic human ancestry. They're doing a ton of the experiments sexually with the abductees. In all the cases.

[Raven]

They'Re doing it sexually.

[Top Lobster]

I am so excited for whatever Lainey does with this.

[Raven]

Oh, yeah, this is very exciting. We're gonna get a banger.

[Donut]

So the Obamas, they made that great film, Leave the World Behind. Like, it was a good movie. Like, we can't play a hate on a good film. But it was propaganda. Right. Their next film is about the, like, first abductees, even though they're not the first.

[Raven]

But was that Barney and Betty Rubble or Hill?

[Top Lobster]

Or Betty Hill.

[Donut]

Yeah. No, exactly. Yeah. It's about.

[Top Lobster]

Is that what the Flintstones was. Yeah.

[Donut]

Dog. For real. They named.

[Raven]

That's why they named him Barney and Betty Rubble. Yeah.

[Donut]

But this Barney character, he was getting. You know, I'm trying to get the right word so I don't sound bl.

[Top Lobster]

You say blab.

[Raven]

He's getting bled hard.

[Donut]

Right. For his semen. For. He was getting blapped. Right. Because they're doing these hybrid breeding programs and.

[Raven]

Yep.

[Donut]

And it's. It happens all the time. And all the reports and these reports that we're hearing about them now. But Charles Fort, where we get the word 14 phenomenon, was talking about the. These UFOs and one. I don't know why. This is just. This book has inspired me. I'm not like, I. I don't want. I feel like I don't want to, like, take credit or nothing. It's just one of those, you know, when you read something, you learn something and you get all excited about it.

[Raven]

Yeah.

[Donut]

But you Just like, let your whole business just fall apart because you're just like, yo, this is freaking crazy. It's like, why are you.

[Top Lobster]

Yes, that happened last week.

[Donut]

That's the only way to continue with, like, content. But there's something to it too. Like, with learning, like, the truth is stranger than fiction.

[Top Lobster]

And.

[Donut]

And on this wicked smart journey that I've been on where, you know, I'm just, you know, it's hard to read. I could read eight pages, right? Which is good because I could only read five pages like a month ago, but now I'm on eight. I could read eight pages then I'm exhausted, right? But it's just. It's crazy, this wicked smart journey I'm on. And the. The biggest thing is philosophy. I don't know if you've ever gone into philosophy, but, like, is like going. Doing like. It's like a movie theater of the mind when. But it's taken a long time for me to comprehend it. But I'm in the state of becoming. Right. You know, a Teletubby.

[Raven]

I was gonna say, what are we becoming?

[Donut]

It's all, you know, it's different for everybody. You know, like, my family might think I'm a failure. My audience is like, probably like, yo, what's going on with this content? Like, last few years kind of going down, down the hill. Whatever, whatever. It doesn't matter because everybody is unique in a. In a sense where we are on our own sort of timeline of becoming who we are, what purpose to serve. And only we know what. What that is. And I've been just learning about these different philosophers and how important it is with these worldviews. So what worldview does one carry? And what worldview was pushed on me or to now crazy level with the technocratic algorithmic AI just feeding us memes and information to make us think a certain way, which does affect us. It affects me a lot of ways. And deconstructing the. The world views that I've carried, which I think we all do as just, you know, learners. I don't know what to call us, but I feel like we do cons, deconstruct, like, stuff all the time, just in this field that we're in.

[Raven]

Oh, well, wait. I mean, you're. You're touching on something that I think is an uncomfortable truth for a lot of us. Yeah, I don't know what you call us learners. Truthers is kind of sucks, dude.

[Donut]

I'm not a truth or.

[Top Lobster]

Well, actually, I just. I just went viral again. Lying to the people I'M actually a liar. So that's.

[Raven]

Yeah. Liars is. Well I mean within this limu imu.

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[Raven]

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[Raven]

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[Raven]

Book now at vrbo.com conspiracy enthusiast kind of a sphere that we find ourselves in I think nowadays where previously we used to be. We used to be of the school thought that like we were the ones that were figuring it out and that everybody else was being fed some narrative and they were locked into some, some you know, psychological operation. I feel like the, the, the playing field has changed in such a way. Whether it's that kind of Cass Sunstein cognitive infiltration plan or whatever. But I feel like we're almost the ones that are getting more subjected to psyops than the general public used to be as the general public is still fed whatever narrative and that's like one or two or three different potential roads they can go down. As somebody who's not paying attention. Right. But now if you are paying attention they have fed us hundreds of different roads you can go. So it's like I almost feel like all we've done is found ourselves in a position where we're subjected to more psychological warfare than the general public is.

[Top Lobster]

Well so I mean I could see donuts thoughts on the matter like just completely frayed because you're being, you're being told a lot. Yeah. There is one thing that I do. Hold on. I mean this is a Christian show.

[Raven]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

But one of the most compelling arguments that I heard came from like a long time ago it's from La Marzulli and his big focus was. Would be on the seed war.

[Raven]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

So if you read the Bible, Genesis 3:15 where it's describing like the split between Jacob and Esau and the seed and the prophecy that falls falls there it says that you're like like the. The seed of the man will crush the seed of the serpent's head. He'll. He'll crush your head and you'll bruise his heel. So he's talking about two different genetic lines that come forward and then that's how it splits. And then you get Israel from one side and, and you get Edom from the other. And then so the story goes. But from that part, I mean, even from before that, like the genetics is always super important. They're always concerned about what, where the bloodline is traced back to. And it's got to be specific. It's if it's going to fulfill prophecy, if you're going to do just about anything. So that gets you to thinking like, well, all right, if you're worried about the bloodline, you're worried about the lineage, you're kind of worried about the sperm and you're looking at aliens just blabbing, blabbing.

[Raven]

Taking people's.

[Donut]

Guam.

[Raven]

They're. Guam. Yeah, yeah, taking our Guam. They're blapping us out.

[Top Lobster]

They're real concerned about that and so are the elites. So it's like, it does raise the question of, well, okay, why is that important?

[Raven]

Yeah, that, that hybridization program, that black eyed children kind of a situation to me is it's directly connected to the same thing that the Nephilim were, right? It's this hybridization program. It's this cross breeding. And I think they're still trying to get it right for whatever reason. You know, it's this idea of birthrights and things like that, but it's the same old story. It's just got a different face. So when you have that Crowley, sort of like, oh, today, yesterday they called us demons, tomorrow they'll call us aliens, right? That comes from Lamb, I think it's. It is that. So you, you look throughout history. I was actually explaining to Mason on the show earlier because her mom is super into, you know, the Galactic Federation of Light. Hey, babe, what's your cat's name?

[Donut]

Chan.

[Raven]

Chan. Chinese cat. Very nice. I like it. It's a good looking cat.

[Top Lobster]

Keep her away from the Chinese.

[Raven]

Yeah, that's true. So, you know, the Galactic Federation of Light is like, it's all the Pleiadians and they're telling us that we have to spiritually ascend and that, you know, we have to avoid this calamity on Earth. But it's the same thing that people get in abduction experiences and it's the same thing that people got from the Egyptian Ennead and it's the same thing that, like, you know, people got from the ascended Atlantean masters was this idea that, like, humanity needs to ascend. So you have, like, this thing, I think Nathaniel Gillis really nails it, where it's like, it's the phenomenon, and it's constantly changing into a form that you're willing to accept, and it's selling you the same narrative, but it's like, which form are you. Are you most receptive to today? Is it going to be the. The Atlanteans? Is it going to be the aliens?

[Top Lobster]

Because it's going to be the Teletubbies.

[Raven]

Is it going to be the Teletubbies? Yeah, so. And I think what plays a massive role in it is what you were saying earlier, Donut, which is Hollywood. Hollywood plays a really huge role in it because they're priming you with the narrative.

[Top Lobster]

And I think also a question that I had as well, you said it seems like these guys are just, like, copying the script or, like, regurgitating a script. And I don't know. I like. I don't know if they're copying it or if they're getting, like, downloads to.

[Raven]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

To present this stuff. That's the big question.

[Raven]

Oh, actually, and I think that's a perfect kind of segue, too, because did you know, Donut, that the writer of Weapons received the entire thing in a download?

[Donut]

Download it.

[Raven]

I was like, what, dude? Like, as soon as I heard that, I was like, no. Like, he got the entire idea for the script in a download.

[Donut]

There was that one guy who they, like, abducted, in a sense, back in the day. I forget his name, but this is what broke me free from a lot of the alien psyop is that they took this poor guy and they gave him a government, like, computer, and they were feeding him messages like, the aliens are communicating with him, and the guy went insane or whatever. I forget his name, but I think.

[Raven]

I know what you mean.

[Donut]

You got, like, a download straight from the, you know, intelligence agencies. And I'm watching the show called the Chair Company, which is pretty good. And that sort of same thing seems to be happening in that show, too. So where. I mean, where is the download button? Where are they downloading it from? Like, could it just be, like, handlers and whatnot? That's wild. Weapons was a good movie. I like that.

[Raven]

Before we get into it, we have a lot of filthy, poor people watching. And I like, look, I have a lot of empathy for them, and I. And I do enjoy them, but I. It's just like, you know, the poor thing and the. The unwashed and the. The dirty, you know, so we're gonna have to shake him off because I've stood about all I can stand. If you want to continue watching patreon.com/now/ephilim Death Squad, otherwise, give it about a week or so. This episode will drop in its entirety, but you can imagine it's going to be pretty censored on YouTube. We're gonna have to censor certain words, so.

[Donut]

Oh, my bad.

[Raven]

Well, no, no, it's probably. It's probably us, but otherwise, you know, Patreon members can enjoy the rest of this. So. So, yeah, this. This conversation about weapons, I saw you were doing a breakdown on it. I didn't want your information to sort of flavor my opinion of it, so I went ahead and watched it. And I haven't looked at your. Your breakdown of it, so I kind of wanted to get your thoughts on. On, like, what was this movie? Because it was. It felt like a lot of things.

[Donut]

It was a lot like a Roshi Mon effect, which is this Japanese film that the film was so great. It's an older film in the Criterion Collection where it was so amazing that they use it in the court of law today called the Rashomon effect, where. Oroshimon effect, if I'm pronouncing it wrong, my apologies. It's Japanese, and it's a film that is told by, like, four or five different angles. And so when you go to court, there's like four or five different angles that see the story totally differently. And this film did that. I thought it was a fun movie. Plus, it had. I think her name's Julia Garner from Ozarks. She's just incredible watching, so I really.

[Raven]

Oh, she's. She's like the niece of. Of. Of somebody big. Right. Who the heck is her aunt? I forget what it is, but she comes from, like, good acting stock.

[Donut]

Oh, yeah, she's great acting wise. Like, Ozarks was so cool.

[Raven]

Yeah, I like the good. Oh, here she is. Yeah, this chick. She's a killer.

[Top Lobster]

She's a killer.

[Raven]

She's a good. She's a good actress. You know what it is, though? She does something about it that's like she can make herself. And I think she did this partly in Ozark where she was like. She came off as compelling but unlikable. Like, she was kind of like a little bit of a sleazeball of a character. She plays that very well. So there's gonna be some spoilers, I think, for weapons, you know, for the audience. If you haven't watched it yet, maybe this will actually make you want to Watch it. But what I was getting Donut and I wondered if you got this was there was a lot of subliminals in the background that were pointing to the year 1948. I wasn't sure where to place that. It popped up in the film several times. I thought maybe it was a operation paperclip thing, but paperclip kind of takes place like 45 to 50 or something like that in the grand scheme of things. So I don't know if it really. I was saying that for a while. I don't know if that makes sense, though. And the other thing that was coming up a lot was the concept of parasites. So I don't know if you remember Donut, but there was like two moments throughout the film. One, they're talking about Cordyceps mushrooms taking over insects. And there's like this element of possession that kind of is playing a role in the film. Well, it's not playing. I mean, it is. It's a huge part of the film. And then it happens again in one of the classrooms when they're showing the classroom, classroom 217, whatever it was, which 17, obviously, it's like the kids go missing at 2:17 in the morning. I think 17 of them go missing or something like that that keeps popping up. But this parasite description is written on the chalkboard in the background. And on the other side of it is a whole description about whales and them using frequency. Oh, no, we lost Donut.

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[Top Lobster]

I don't know. Looks like he just dropped out.

[Raven]

He might have had some connection issues. We'll give it a second. Oh, there he goes. He's back.

[Top Lobster]

All right.

[Raven]

And he's back. What was the last thing you heard me say, Donut?

[Donut]

You. Yeah, the. The parasite. The. Your dot part.

[Raven]

Yeah. So the parasites were. Were coming up constantly. And also this idea of frequency and it was like, shown in the, in the sense of like the whales, and that was written on the chalkboard how they. They, you know, they. They communicate through frequency and such, so. And then of course there's. There's witchcraft, which is like the big reveal. It's actually a fantastic film. And. And all of these elements, I think, play together really nicely. Parasites, parasitic entities, possession, frequency, warfare frequency, technology and witchcraft. Did you. Did that make any sense to you? Were you seeing that?

[Donut]

Absolutely. It was full of voodoo as well. And I did a breakdown over on my channel, which is still up there on this show with Anya, Saru and. And wordsmith Nikki and the. It's just. It's just incredible what they found. So I'll use a lot of their information, but they were looking into. Everybody's looking at it a certain way. And I was diving deep into the voodoo thing and this 217 number. When you watch the Bride of Chucky, she's doing voodoo to, you know, summon Dambala in a sense to wake up Chucky, you know, in conscious spirit, transfer him into this doll. And it's on page 217. 217 is like part of the. The Shining, at least the original like writings of it or something like that. And that this just number just pops up all over the place. And then Ani was connecting it.

[Raven]

Oh yeah, it's room 217 at the Stanley Hotel, which inspired Stephen King's novel. Yeah. So that 217 does pop up in the Shining as well.

[Donut]

And so the. There's like numerology. But the voodoo thing I thought was interesting because they're eating this Campbell's chicken soup and like the chicken is sort of like a sacrifice. Even with the Hebrews or even in voodoo, there's always this like chicken sacrifice and they're like fed off of this chicken soup that. That they're eating. So I think that there's even something there. So there's just a lot of wild elements and the frequencies is the. The wildest. And it was just such a wild movie because it covered like all these different topics. But the guy was looking for like the. His son who was the bully to the. The kid and the kid. So there's this other relationship going on in this Rush Rashimon effect, this movie Rashiman, that also bring in like this witchcraft kind of channeling lady who's like channeling in the court case to see what really happened.

[Raven]

Oh really? That was part of the, the, the. The real life court case.

[Donut]

Oh, in this film. So.

[Raven]

Oh, in the film. Okay, okay.

[Donut]

Original film, but so there's a lot of interesting ties to that film, which I highly recommend. But their tower, there was this tower that was like the centerpiece of the entire movie. And when you rewatch it, you'll see how important, like this tower is. So it feels to be connected to the. The lockdowns and.

[Raven]

Yes.

[Donut]

Also all the. The needles into. In. In the. In the movie. Right. The guy G. With the. The addiction.

[Raven]

God. Yeah.

[Donut]

So there's a lot of ties into it, but even the music videos. So there's something called. It's a music video called, like, there's like Something in My Blood or something like that that they're playing in that film during the certain scene. So you could even link up the music in the music video. It's like. Like zombies, orbs and all of that. Yeah.

[Raven]

Oh, that's right. I remember. I remember that song. And I was pointing.

[Donut]

You know, I think it's Zombie in My Blood or something like that. Something.

[Raven]

Yeah. And that. That's gonna go into, you know, the parasite thing, the cordyceps mushroom thing. Right. Where they're talking about. In the film, they're talking about this mushroom taking over the host. It's like, throughout our research, you know, at least on this show, in our experience, Top and I are constantly. And I think. I think it. You know, we probably all are when we're trying to understand this. This phenomenon constantly circling around, like channeling frequency Parasites is another really huge one. And. And at least this time frame of 1948 being sort of the kickoff of these programs, right? Like, in this time frame, you have, like, the beginnings of the MK Ultra program. You have.

[Top Lobster]

This movie's made in the 1950s.

[Raven]

Which one is that?

[Top Lobster]

The Rashomon effect.

[Raven]

Oh, that's interesting that it was made in 1950. Just 1950.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Raven]

So right after all of this. That's. That's interesting because even when we had William Ramsey on and we were watching the Manchurian. He's great. He's fantastic. By the way, though, pretty much the only dude that ever said he's not having fun when we asked him if he was having fun.

[Top Lobster]

Don't blow the question.

[Raven]

So. So, so what? Can you look that up? Top? When did that maturian candidate come out? Because it was like they. They did it right away. Like, as soon as all this stuff was happening and all these programs were in development and they were manipulating these frequencies and developing these technologies. 1962, they were like, let's just release these movies. Like, they were just telling us that early. It's kind of. Oh, that's interesting. Israel was created in 1948. I don't know if that's what they're getting at. It seems like a little bit of a reach, just given the context of the. Of the. The movie.

[Top Lobster]

Well, It's. Everything is 1947, 1948. The implementation of the CIA.

[Raven]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

MK Ultra, State of Israel. Most of these movies. The Roswell phenomenon comes up shortly after Puharich on the scene doing all the channeling and all this stuff all around the 50s. So something happened. There's a turning.

[Donut]

Yeah. Even the. When they're running the kids and they're in that like. That's like one of the pose of what. With a famous picture of like when the, the nuclear blast went off. It sort of. And I probably was that year too maybe.

[Raven]

Oh, what did that be? The nuclear test. Oh, Hiroshima.

[Donut]

Which I think happened around like 217 or something like that too. Like. So there's 217 numbers.

[Raven]

Yeah. So it looks like 1945. So just a couple of years before. It's a wild time in the world. We just keep coming across this. This time frame of 45 to like 55. 45 to 55. That 10 year span is like kind of nightmarish, you know what I mean? As far as everything that they. They end up developing and implementing. And now whatever we're subjected to here in 2025 feels like, you know, just the, the well oiled version of it all.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, the culmination.

[Raven]

The culmination, yep. Yeah. You know what it reminds me of? I don't know if you've seen the film White Noise. Not the old one, the new one with the train derailment.

[Donut]

Oh yeah. And that was like on point with what actually happened in real life. So it was sort of like a. There's a word for it that Nick Land or something made up.

[Raven]

Feel like a revelation of the Method kind of a deal or. Oh, I think we got Donut all. All blapped up in the game again. We'll give him a second. He might come back or he might.

[Donut]

Chat.

[Raven]

Is this real chat?

[Top Lobster]

Is this real life?

[Raven]

Because sometimes I'll be talking at the same. Oh, there we go. He's back. Okay, I kind of lost you there for a second.

[Donut]

My computer saying that is the Internet is connected, but it's like going in and out. My apologies.

[Raven]

It could be us too because we have bad Internet here. We're trying to get it upgraded, but this is something that we've had to deal with a few times.

[Donut]

I really like the beginning of the film where it was doing the Rooken figure of Julia Garner where they're showing the back of her head and her silly little afro puff that she got going on there like. And then you finally see her and she's like, like very weak and fragile, which is like the opposite of her real character in most of her films. Although in the movie Assistant she played that, which I didn't really like that much because I like the feistiness of. Yeah, she's always like this, like, just yelling all the time. And, and I thought that the film was really cool showing how, showing that, how they started her off. Like she was like this like kind of weak kind of chick. But then like, it kind of. She's all, she's all wild.

[Raven]

Yeah, that, you know, that, that, that movie White Noise, besides the fact that it was, you know, so in real life it takes place East Palestine, Ohio, but in the film it takes place in Ohio and you go, oh, that's close enough. Then you find out that a lot of the actors that they sourced were people from specifically East Palestine, which is very interesting. And it takes place in the 80s, so obviously there's a, a 30 year gap. But the, the really fascinating thing isn't just that you have a train derailment that spills a toxic chemical that ends up, you know, evacuating the town, which is virtually exactly what was happening in real life. Right around within a week, by the way. Within one week of the film's release. I don't know if the film was a week after, a week before, but within a week of each other, this real life event takes place. The other thing that is absolutely fascinating, what's the expression that you've been using donut to explain when it, when there's multiple POVs in a film?

[Donut]

The Roshi man effect.

[Raven]

So this is very much like that, the Roshi man effect. And this is very much the same thing that you would have seen in the Shining, where it's like you have a movie up front and it is, you know, the Shining. But then there's something going on in the background and people will say, well, it's talking about the genocide of the Native Americans or it's talking about the faking of the moon landing. A number of elements are playing out in the, in the background of the film while you're served up something in the foreground. White Noise was almost exactly what its title is saying, White Noise. The dialogue in the film is almost meaningless. There's no like, real plot twist. It's just like a train derailment. This family has to evacuate. I forget the guy's name that, that plays the father. Great actor. Adam.

[Donut]

Adam Driver.

[Raven]

Adam Driver. I love Adam Driver. He's a great actor. And, and he takes his family out of there. And a lot of the time they're just having like meaningless family banter. And you're going like, you know, I mean, it's a good movie. And. But in the background of the film is where things get really strange over and over again. There is this element of UFOs. And you'll see it in the newspapers that are in the background, or you'll see a UFO poster on the wall, or you'll see a news broadcast that's breaking news headlines says UFO lands in, you know, yakety yak, whatever place. And at that same time we're getting. The Chinese weather balloon is traveling across the country. And while that's happening, and I was, I was gripped by this phenomenon. This is around a Super Bowl, I think I kind of remember like that there was a big football game, something that happened. And I am looking constantly at the Internet and watching these things pop up. I remember one of them particularly happened in Uruguay. And I remember that because I'm Uruguay. And it's like, you never see news out of Uruguay. So I'm like, that's interesting. And it was UFO news. And then there was reports that Canada had a UFO and it shot it down. And then it was reports that China had a UFO and it shot it down. So at the same time that this weather balloon is traveling across the country, all over the world, different countries are reporting the same thing. And some of them are even reporting that they shot him down. So you look at this movie, White Noise, and it's telling you the same story in the background. Dude, I don't know how to quantify that. I mean, it's such a large scale op because it's like, okay, I guess they just did that. I guess they just did that. They just said that these things were happening. They launched this balloon. And then other countries like confirmed a thing that may or may not have actually been happening. And. And somebody developed a film from Netflix, got ahead of it and really what the hell is happening there?

[Donut]

And the release date that it came out with, that just happened as well with a new show on Netflix, which is about an ICBM. And then that same story on October 24th when that show was released, Russia was in the news talking about their nuclear like capabilities. And it's a big connection. And it goes into marketing and advertisement. Like the advertisement agencies got it on lockdown to purchase these certain products. Like I look at it like Eminem popcorn, Coca Cola, we all know what it is. But they still advertise it for us because it shows, like, when it's there, people will purchase it. The, like, the statistics. So I think that what is going on is not only the movies telling us it, the books, but even when we're at the grocery store and we're going through the checkout magazine, we all have to see the magazines. Who's buying magazines? Like, they're there. But I feel like it's just getting placed into our subconscious mind. And then you have food products. Like, I sort of brought the Mountain Dew Code Red, like, conspiracy to the table. Because Code Red was released, like, a month prior to the Homeland Security Code Red system, where that's like the. The. Which we, like, hit, like. So there seems to be a connection to even food products, which makes sense because Ben and Jerry's, they publicly say they're not an ice cream company, that they're a political organization. Right. So McDonald's is not a hamburger chain. It's a real estate chain owning the best properties around the world. And I mean, who knows? Maybe this whole Middle east conflict is just a McDonald's conflict. So they could get that, you know, that good land, then they'll move it to. I think McDonald's is playing a huge role. It's stuff that is kind of left out because President Trump, remember, he fed all the football players all the. The hamburgers at McDonald's. And everybody loves McDonald's.

[Raven]

And he went to the drive through. Remember, he did the drive through operations, and it was like, iconic photo shoot.

[Donut]

And like, there seems to be something more to that story, too. You know, getting these Happy Meals all over the place because that gets into, like, the imprinting. But, yeah, so I think there's a lot going on. And then we look at our phones. It's like everywhere. Just whatever the message is, then it's somewhere in our subconscious mind, probably.

[Raven]

Well, it's crazy.

[Donut]

Connects the dots.

[Raven]

It's crazy how layered it is. It's like that's a. You know, I kind of go back and forth. People will accuse the government or whatever. They'll say, like, oh, these kind of conspiracies can't happen because people are inept. And. And why attribute to malice, which you can attribute to ignorance, like that sort of a thing. And I go, I don't know, man, because I'm looking at this thing. We'll say it sometimes on the show where it's like, we're being subjected to the most sophisticated propaganda machine in the history of humanity. And then every once in a while, I get like, a reality check. About just how sophisticated that propaganda machine is. I mean, just going back to the white noise thing, I don't understand. I can't claim to understand how you could orchestrate such a thing. You know, to put all this time and effort into a thing that's like, happening on Netflix and then happens within a week in real life. And it's not just a train derailment. I can get behind just a train derailment, but, like, this thing traveling across the country and other countries corresponding with their own reports of UFOs and, like, what it. It. And then. And then to ask, like, the big why is like, another task in itself. But I, I, I look at right now what, what we're being subjected to, which is this kind of bukkake of information from the Three Eye Atlas situation, which is like, you know, it's, it's, it's alien adjacent. Or maybe it's not adjacent. Maybe it is. It's directly, you know, over the target. And you have this Avi Loeb guy who keeps going out into the world. He's been on Rogan's podcast now, of all places, which is the new Laurel Canyon, I think, in so many ways. And he's saying, yeah, this Three Eye Atlas thing is. It's not organic. It seems to be piloted. All the craziest crap in the world. And then you look over and New York Post is like, correlating this thing, and it's going, yeah, it is hostile. It's hostile. What do you mean it's hostile? Oh, oh. Avi Loeb says it's gonna release orbs on the 30th that are gonna appear to us as UFOs or UAPs.

[Top Lobster]

What.

[Raven]

What are we talking about? How do you even determine this sort of a thing? But it doesn't seem to. I mean, we just passed this October 30th prediction. I don't know if you want to call it that. And I haven't seen any. Anything. But it doesn't seem to have slowed down any of the fever pitch surrounding Three Eye Atlas, which I think plugs right into this whole UFO thing.

[Top Lobster]

Somebody. I just confirmed this in the chat. Mountain Dew was.

[Raven]

No, it wasn't.

[Top Lobster]

The Hartman brothers file for and receive copyright on the mountain dew name 1948.

[Donut]

Oh, snap.

[Top Lobster]

What the. All right. See what I mean? Yeah. Like.

[Raven]

Sorry, what's going on, man?

[Top Lobster]

Too. Too much. Is it by design? It's got to be by design. And is it, is it to get us to accept it, or do you think it's a bit of like boasting like. Like putting your. Putting your signature on a thing, putting.

[Raven]

Your big fat wiener on the table.

[Top Lobster]

Like a serial killer will, like, carve their initials into the body or, like, leave like a calling card. Like, yeah, look what I did. Even though it's like a very. It's a horrible thing they did, but they can't help themselves. But to play this cat and mouse game. Do you think it's that or do you think it's like, purely conditioning for us to accept it's.

[Donut]

I think both. I think what you said was really good connection. Had the serial killer leaving the joker card kind of like as the signature. And I think it's such a deep psychological operation, like, with just me just studying, like, myself, like, my thoughts, my emotions, my actions. Like, it's hard enough for. Hard enough. It's hard enough for this young Teletubby right here to just, like, live life not on, like some sort of zombie type rhythm. Every day I do this, like, same thing, like this pattern, and breaking that pattern is difficult. And I think y' all do it really, really well. I think anybody that has comedy and humor is able to break out of that conditioning and look at oneself from a different, like, perspective. Sort of like this attaching from oneself in this world. There's so many different worlds. I really think it goes into psychology, philosophy and all this. Just how interesting that we all are just like humans in general, but we also are not perfect and we can just fall into a certain world view. Or a rhythm probably would be a good thing. Speaking of, like, frequencies and rhythms, like music and all the music and weapons. I was looking at the BPM and a Wasn't a scary movie, right? It didn't feel scary. There was scary scenes that were like, oh, you know that lady on the roof kind of thing on the ceiling? Like, that was scary, but it wasn't like, scary.

[Raven]

The bpm.

[Donut]

The BPM of the music. Yeah, it was more of like a rave. So it was more of like a pump up video. Like, oh, I'm ready to go dance, kind of throughout. Throughout the film. And I think that these rhythms, these pulses, is sort of one of the big secrets. This. My. My friend Guy Tao brought this up to me like two, three years ago. You know when someone goes on a podcast with you and brings up something and then you think about it for like three, four, five years on this show.

[Raven]

What we do donut is we repeat that for the next like, two years. Like, I hear a thing and it resonates with me to Such a degree. And it just plugs in so well. And then I. And then I just chat.

[Top Lobster]

It almost becomes like our thing now.

[Raven]

Yeah. Because I can't shut up about it. I'm like, oh, my God. This thing is. Is like a little piece of the puzzle that plays with my puzzle really nicely. Then I don't shut the hell up about it.

[Donut]

Well, so, like, when, like, chicks are all hanging out, they'll start getting on the same rhythm of, like, their periods. And there's something with rhythm and, like, pulses, like, with the heartbeat or the breathing. When we're in a, like, state of sympathetic nervous system kind of thing, where we're breathing, like, anxiety, like, quick and whatnot. I think that maybe even having everybody in that state, like, the push of just naughty videos, like, 24. Seven for.

[Raven]

Yeah.

[Donut]

Ever since the Internet came out. Limewire and all that, that's keeping everybody in a state of fight or flight when they're viewing this material. And it's not even relaxing. The parasympathetic nervous system where it's.

[Top Lobster]

I think we lost him real quick.

[Raven]

Yeah. I don't know if he lost us or we lost him if the audience can still hear what he's saying. But I know the last thing he said. As soon as we get him back, I'll. I'll. I'll rewind him.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, it's. I think it might be a little bit on his end this time, which is actually unusual for us.

[Raven]

Yeah.

[Donut]

Yeah.

[Raven]

It makes me feel better, though.

[Top Lobster]

Give him one more minute. But I feel bad because he's gonna come on. Having said, like, a whole.

[Raven]

I know the longer it goes on, the more I'm like, this guy's just dumping gravy on us.

[Donut]

Going on.

[Raven]

Okay, hold on a second there, Donut. You know what I love about Donut? He's a professional, and he just keeps going. You can hear, like, when he comes back, you're like, this dude. Kept going. You were saying that that parasympathetic.

[Top Lobster]

Parasympathetic nervous system is where we kind of lost you.

[Raven]

You said it keeps us in this. In this state of mind. You know, all of the stuff we're inundated with.

[Donut]

Also with Twitter. I don't know if you guys experienced this, but they. They. They lose that. The crap out of me. I was, like, not even acting myself on Twitter. Like, I just get mad and yelled at people. I was not being me. And what happened was I was placed in a survival mechanism, which is fun to be in survival, because it makes me feel important. Like, oh, I'm here to survive. But I think now, otherwise people are going to be loosed just because the Middle east war sort of came to a pause for the time being.

[Raven]

Yeah.

[Donut]

And I'm seeing other people in other fields that don't get the algorithm. I get are, like, getting anxiety more. So when I was having, like, crazy anxiety that. That they're not having it. So it made me really dive deep into the nervous system even more. So it just. The controllers, whoever they are, they understand these little things. And with the technology they have, knowing our eye movements, our breathing, our excitement levels, what we're gonna purchase, it's like next level crazy. It's hard to even comprehend.

[Top Lobster]

Wow, I'm really glad that. That we have this show, that we built it to this, like, to what it is now as well, so that, like, a lot of my focus and attention now goes towards this show. So I'm not caught up in this weird spiral that is Twitter. I go on today, I said, you know, I called some Catholics. I told them they're probably going to hell just to stir the pot. And yesterday I did say, but I'm getting better.

[Raven]

You are getting better.

[Top Lobster]

That is getting better.

[Raven]

But I think you're busier, so you're getting better.

[Top Lobster]

But I'm. Yeah, I'm busier with this thing. And this outlet actually lets me keep a focus on the thing that I want to focus on. So I'll take a peek at Twitter just to look and kind of see what is going. I'm still good at it. Like, I saw the thing and I was like, I'm just gonna move all these people real quick and then get off.

[Raven]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

But I'm not on it as much like being consumed by it. And my brain is able to function better and move in this way. And I'd rather be talking to these people. I'd rather be talking to the people that we talk to here in real life and the subjects that we've been diving into, like this one we're talking about today, or whether it be a Bible study, if we're talking about plasma with Brad or whatever. Those are the things I want to bring to the table. So it's. But it's such a weird thing, right? Because it's like Twitter is. Oh, he's got. He's got his plasma or back there.

[Donut]

Oh, yeah, I was going to bring it up.

[Raven]

Well, I do want to say, though, on that topic, that.

[Donut]

Oh, this plasma.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, yeah, there you go. Don't touch that lava lamp.

[Raven]

There's demons in it there might be demons.

[Donut]

Well, so there's the demon and the echo. I highly recommend this book as well, which goes that. By just Dr. Joseph Farrell and it goes into plasma. Is plasma a high intelligence life form? The hypothesis of that. Very spiritual book. I mean, I read it. He's orthodox Christian, so I think that you would like it too. But the perspective of this book was just like Reza Georgiani's. But just something about books are so incredible and I'm just such a big prominent. But you're showing like these different sigils of. Of planets. I haven't opened this book in a while. Looking like. It's just. It's a great book. I highly recommend this book as well.

[Top Lobster]

I like to reach out to that. Have you, have you had them on your show?

[Donut]

I would love to. I'm so scared to. I. I gotta, I gotta. Just gotta step into. I gotta embrace it and do it, you know, because like these are like celebrities to me.

[Top Lobster]

Maybe we could do. Maybe if you're. If you don't want to do like solo with somebody. Because I get it. We. If you would hop on with us and do it, that would be okay. All right, we'll. We'll figure something like that out.

[Donut]

But put a suit on.

[Top Lobster]

No, no, you're good. You dress. You're just perfect.

[Raven]

I wanted to say though, on the topic of that like, so. So you look at trauma based mind control and it seems reasonable to assume that they have to keep you in a state of fear and that you're more susceptible to hypnosis if you're in a state of fear, which makes a lot of sense. You just look at the idea of like problem, reaction, solution, right? They create a, A fake set of problems that are threatening us one way or another, and then they, they offer us the solution. It's a form of hypnosis. But I do think that fear, fear, sadness and anger are all pretty adjacent to one another. And in, in, in women, it'll, you know, it tends to. It's not unanimous, but it does tend to, you know, manifest more as sadness. And in men, it manifests, generally speaking, more as anger. And I think that when the Twitter algorithm or when anything has you in a state of anger or it has you in a state of sadness, it pretty much has a. What do you do it? Mason. She just loves that. You know what, it's weird as she came in here looking for her shirt. Mason. It's under the laptop case. But she was like also kind of making sure she was in frame and she was, like, smiling before.

[Top Lobster]

We're on.

[Raven]

Now you're locked out. No, now you gotta stay for the whole podcast.

[Top Lobster]

I mean, the drawbacks of being in.

[Raven]

A coffee shop, I think it adds to it. Goodbye, Mason. She's got rage issues. So.

[Top Lobster]

So.

[Raven]

But. But when you're angry or when you're sad, it's very similar to having you in a state that I would imagine if you could track the frequency of those emotions, they'd be very similar to fear. So I think all those states of being, she. She went out the other way. Being afraid, being sad and being angry have you basically off balance, more susceptible to the hypnosis that they hope to launch against you. And think about it. Let's just say 9, 11. You have this boogeyman across the ocean has done this thing, perceivably, to New York City. You're going to have a couple of reactions. They're going to be fear. It's going to be sadness for the terrible thing that happened, and it's going to be anger that leads you to wanting vengeance. Now they've got you hypnotized, and they can convince you to go across the ocean and go kill a bunch of people in the desert. You know what I mean? So it's like that. That state of mind. So. So what Donut is saying about using comedy to offset that. I really do feel that way where I don't take any of this seriously. I don't get angry. There was a time I was going through that over the last year and a half, I might have found myself getting angry.

[Top Lobster]

It comes and goes. There's. There are times where I could tell, like, in the world that that overwhelming presence is a lot stronger, where, like, even though we know about it, it's a lot harder for even us to escape. Like, I just went through, like, a phase where I'm like, super down. And you did, too. And it's like. But that's just like everyone in the world, we're feeling, for some. I don't know, they crank. Wonder if this vibrational system and everyone's just kind of like. Like moving very slowly through the ether. They made it thicker or whatever it is.

[Raven]

They made the ether thicker, dude.

[Top Lobster]

I feel that it reminds me of, like, comedy kind of reminds me in a way. I always. I never said it, but I think of it as, like, the bells, you know, the buried bells.

[Raven]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And I don't know, through. Throughout movies, mythologies and lore, when they ring these bells, they create a state of disassociation. Between the entity and the whatever that entity is inhabiting.

[Raven]

So like venom.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what they depicted as. But you'll see like the. And he's pulling away because of the bell. Comedy does the same thing because it's probably the same frequency. It's probably the same color to be honest. If you could see whatever color that is. And there's something to say about this or something to say about why those things aren't existing anymore.

[Raven]

Somebody told me I wasn't funny anymore. Well, you got to shout out to Dayquil.

[Donut]

Even in the Bible I ah. To like quote it too much.

[Raven]

Oh God, there we go. We lost you for a second. You said Rabbi, even in the Bible.

[Top Lobster]

Oh no.

[Donut]

Yeah, I was listening to certain rabbis and they were saying that Isaac, right. I believe that's the first like son.

[Raven]

This is the one that Abraham was going to sacrifice.

[Donut]

And I guess that name Isaac means laughter or something like that. And so there's a lot of laughing even in, in the, the Bible. But it's a masculine energy, being able to step back from the painting and have a different perspective. It's a sign of hyper intelligence if somebody is funny. It's just, it's, it's awesome and it's like an energetic switch. It switches everything so we get controlled by the amygdala. Maybe that's why they made comedy so like awful on like television with you know, political correctness and, and all that. Because it's such a powerful aikido move that if an opponent is like throwing something at you to be like black with something funny, it just changes everything energetically. And emotions are like super. It's part of like our system as well. And a lot of people are running from it. So if they have anxiety like, or fear or anger, how much do people run from that? With mind altering or belief altering chemicals that change their psyche, their like spirit, their soul to deal with whatever tragedy of life is going on or even the awards and greatness of life as well, that when this is something I've been diving deep into with for a while with just emotions and how, how that all plays. Like if we block certain emotions it just gets like repressed and it still like shows up. It could show up as like a physical ailment or, or something like that. But each emotion like the liver is connected to anger and alcohol. The number one reason people drink is to res at resentment. So they're refilling a feeling over and over again and they drink and it hits their liver and their liver is connected to the anger. And anger is fear and sadness, like, combined. Yeah, I liked everything y' all were saying.

[Raven]

Well, I actually had an interesting kind of question come in this morning. I was doing my. My show, and somebody shout out to ancap grizzly because he's. He's posting to, you know, kind of Christian Twitter, and he's, like, talking about his anger, and he's looking for a solution. How quickly he gives into it. And I do wonder, you know, what Top's saying is that they're cranking up the 5G towers or something like that. I think there is probably. We're probably subjected to frequency warfare as well as negative stimuli in the force of, like, in the form of the media that we're, you know, being subjected to.

[Top Lobster]

Well, I mean, I, I. When. When we were kind of, like, going through, like, a weird funk, I actually spoke with Pastor Rick, but he. He's the one who mentioned it himself. At first, he was like, yeah, for some reason, like, these last week, two weeks have been like. Like, I don't know, patience trying. Whereas, like, sometimes, you know, maybe my patience, not the best, but it was just, like, super thin. And I was like, well, why are you feeling that, too? Why is that? Like, why does that seem to be the case with everybody around? And it's like something's going on that.

[Raven]

Is something that we've had too. It's like every time there's a big wave, if I look around, I see other people. Not to use this weird analogy, but, like, when we were going through this big thing after the last Bohemian Grove, I looked over and it was like Trump was having a falling out with somebody. I forgot. Who the heck.

[Top Lobster]

Elon.

[Raven]

Elon, that's right. And then there was like, a couple of other, like, you know, celebrities that were also having a falling out. And I'm like, I'm not saying that that's even organic. I'm wondering, like, if, let's say you launch a thing and people are subjected to it, like, frequency warfare, and then you have their, like, idols or celebrities, the people that they. They look towards, and you have them orchestrate a falling out, does that exacerbate the feeling that. Because now you're looking at it and you're seeing it, and you're also feeling it. So externally you see it, and internally you feel it. Does it amplify it in some way, shape or form? And you're talking about, you know, Trump and Elon. I mean, who does it get bigger than that as far as a billboard for negative Emotion. And I remember at the time being like, this is so much heavier than just a coincidence. You know, this feels like spiritual warfare. But I do think that, you know, at some level it is a, it's a decision. When I, when I was younger, this is what I was saying on the show is like, when I was younger and I was homeless, I had like, you know, I had really extreme emotions. And it got to the point where I was either going to succumb to those emotions, whatever that looked like, which is, you know, not a good thing, ultimately succumbing to sadness and depression, or I was going to change that. And the way that I changed it was, was literally. I know it sounds so stupid and reductive. I'm not saying this works if you're subjected to microwaves from the ionosphere or whatever, but it was a decision. It was a decision to no longer be sad. It was a decision to find reasons to be happy. And you would find that if it was something as simple as the weather or like, you know, I remember when I was really, you know, really super homeless, like it would be like the smell in the air, the feeling of the sun, like I had to focus on those things in order to not focus on the sadness or else I would succumb to it. So at some level it really truly is a decision. And I think that's the truth. Even if you are subjected to the media, even if you are subjected to frequency warfare, etc. Etc. Is you still have that agency. We're not totally parasitically controlled by some cordyceps mushroom creature. Right? You have to decide. Happiness ultimately on some level is a decision. And it's also a muscle that you can train. So if you're angry and you stay in that state, you become really good at finding a bunch of shit to be angry about. But the same for the inverse. If you're happy and you learn to train that muscle, you could find at any given moment a thousand things to be happy about. So you have to be careful which gay wolf you're feeding inside.

[Donut]

You know, I love that you're talking about happiness because it is. What you're talking about is attitude. So in recovery, I'm in recovery 10 years. Also, I wouldn't say I was homeless because I would. Was couch surfing or whatever, but couldn't pay bills, couldn't do nothing. My life was unmanageable. So, you know, I made a decision to, you know, get sober. And also through that experience, that's when I started to, you know, believe in God and all that and was more open minded to some different spiritual like principles and you know, just in my development phase of understanding what's going on with, with myself and the attitude is a decision so I could wake up every single day. I've been reading Viktor Frankl's book and his is about meaning, which is so interesting because Freud was like about the pleasure principle and Nietzsche was about the power, like will to power and his went into meaning. And reading his books lately has been very nice. But also reading all these different philosophies and the, the attitude we can choose, like we could be, we could find meaning in whatever situation that we're in. And just being here right now again, this other opportunity to live life because not, you know, that, that, that's exciting and there's so many possibilities that can happen. But I tend to focus on the worst possibility is going to happen. Y' all know me, y' all know how much I freak out. Like I get anxiety. I'm all like letting fear operate my life and. But that's where courage comes in and dies. That's cool. Courage is a cool word. I just like courage because courage is like you're, you're scared but you still do it anyway.

[Raven]

Yes.

[Donut]

That develops faith, you know, as well. And it's a responsibility too. Like look, I'm responsible for my, my attitudes and my actions and this is wisdom as well because we're not in control of most stuff. Right. That's out of our hands and. But we are in control of our actions and our attitudes. So that's, that's that wisdom. I just like that that you're talking about it. The happiness thing is cool.

[Raven]

Well, it's interesting because like I said, I started off talking about this morning and now I guess I'm going to end up the second half of the day talking about it again. But I do think it's important and it's something that I want people to understand is you have a lot more control over that happiness and sadness than you might imagine. In fact, it's almost the only thing you have control over is you are the filter that life passes through. Through you determine the way that you interpret it and the way that you interpret it frames virtually everything else in your life. And I, I think there's a reason that the Bible warns so much against fear. Fear being adjacent to, to sadness and, and, and anger and all these different things is they're corrosive and they're acidic and, and if that is the filter that everything passes through, it is not one that you can sustain for very long. Although I guess you could sustain it for very long. Like, I've known dudes when I was at jobs, and you'd have a guy that, that comes in and he's like 60 something years old, and all he does is bitch and moaning, complain, and he's angry, and he's angry and every day he's there. So I guess you could do it for a long time. Seems like a miserable existence. But I think that, you know, this choice to work out that muscle and to see things in a positive light, because I think it just. The truth of the matter is there are a million things to be happy about and there are a million things to be mad about every single day. And you just decide which ones you're gonna focus on, which ones you're gonna amplify.

[Top Lobster]

Isn't it interesting that, like, scrolling Twitter. Scrolling Twitter is, is just finding the thing that you're supposed that you want to be angry about. That's what I find myself doing. I'm like, I don't necessarily care about any of this stuff, but, like, which one of these things is gonna trigger me the most? And then it'll, it'll just continue to show up in your algorithm. Like I, I got caught in for some reason, like the atheists. Atheist algorithm.

[Raven]

Oh, you could go there and just start swinging windmill.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, I'm just gonna fight with these people all day. I'm like, I can't. I can't do this.

[Raven]

Yeah. You know, I've tried to, you know, so. So yesterday I made a post and I'm waiting for it because it has some black people and I'm sure they're gonna get mad at about it, but it didn't come from like a negative place. It was just like a funny observation. It was a funny thing to say, but it was a chick who chose to be angry. And she's in like, you know, Walmart or whatever. She's in the crafts aisle and in the craft aisle they are selling, you know, cotton, like, like it looks like the cotton plant. And she's just snatching all off of the shelves and she's. And she's throwing them all on the ground and she's screaming about it. This is not okay to do this kind of a thing. And all I said was, it's actually very interesting how quickly she picks it. It's almost like it comes naturally to her, you know, and it wasn't like, it's not a thing. I don't mean it like that. It's just a funny ass thing in my opinion to say at the moment because she is rapidly snatching cotton off the shelves and I'm like, she's pretty damn good at it, you know. But somebody did comment and they go, oh, well, it's interesting because they put us in the south because all the white people were dying from the mosquitoes and everything, so they chose us to work in the South. And I go, like, sounds good, man. Like, I'm not, I'm not.

[Donut]

Oh, I know, it's funny. It's the autonomic nervous system being triggered and what top was saying. I find myself more in recommendations on Twitter to get pissed off because I go my following and I'm like, this is boring. And I go to the. The recommendations part and I'm just like go. And I go like, it's so like manipulated my, my emotions, but I like it. What brings me back to wanting to feel that, you know, self pity and pain and fear and anger and all that. Like what driving me because I'm choosing to. To. To do that and the, the autonomic nervous system. Like this lady getting really mad because of a word, right?

[Raven]

Yeah.

[Donut]

And I remember seeing this lady on the street on, on the YouTube. She was like so mad. She's ripping up this Greek flag and yelling at the restaurant because she thought it was an Israeli flag because it was blue and white. It was like, it's a Greek flag. And the Greeks are just like, what's green going on here?

[Raven]

You know, you're trying to make gyros heroes, whatever. And you're tearing up the decor outside of our restaurant. She's like, oh. Like it was a. It's a great classic video that it.

[Donut]

Shows the power of symbols and words and all this and how we can get manipulated just through these reactions. But the comedy is stepping back from that. That's why it's so genius and that's why you have to have that high intelligence to even be on that spectrum of.

[Top Lobster]

Well, thank you. I'll explain the troll that I did and it's great.

[Raven]

What did you do?

[Top Lobster]

I mean, I even got Tom woods, which Tom was a very smart guy. But so I saw that like some meme was going around about Olive Garden giving to.

[Raven]

Oh, that was so funny.

[Top Lobster]

And I just go, man, rest in peace, Olive Garden. And it's like when you put something like that out there, it's just putting it there. And, and I know what people want to think about it. Like, you know, both sides are completely polarized and already settled in their argument that nobody's even gonna look at the poorly constructed Photoshop meme and say, oh, that's. That's not real. You know, you got, like, American flag. Old people, like, serves them right. They've been stealing our money. And then somebody else goes, man, these people are poor. How could you say that about these poor people? And I'm just like, guys, like, I'm not gonna explain it to you. You're gonna have to look at it, and I'm gonna laugh until you figure it out.

[Raven]

Yeah, but that.

[Top Lobster]

You know, people, they. You go online, you want to be angry, you're gonna find it. It's there, dog.

[Raven]

I mean, look, Donut, you're talking about this anxiety or whatever, you get reactive. And you and I have spoken about it before, but I don't think you know, and I'm not saying that you do, but you shouldn't get sort of down hard on yourself, because it is. You're a great noticer of patterns. So not only do you notice this thing about yourself, but you also notice this thing that's launched against us. And you also have a great sense of humor. I always say that. One of my favorite moments from Bohemian Grove is having you on the stage next to Tripoli. I don't know if you've done a lot of stage stuff, but you need to, because you have a speed and a cadence about you that is just. You're just naturally funny. So you have that built within you. You know, this. This. This idea of. Of the humor. Because why. I think the truth is, people like us need it or else. What are we gonna do? Serve up black pills? You know what I mean? Like, what are we gonna do? We're gonna sit here and look at all the machinations and go, guys, look at. Look at all the ways in which they're trying to kill us. And the world is burning. And it's like, dude, if you really internalize that, if you really believe that this is not a fun place to be, I. You know, and that goes to any content creator out there that thinks that they're giving out black pills all the time, and that. That's okay. That's a. This is a short game for you then, dog. Because I don't know how much existential crisis you. You can subject yourself to and have it be sustainable. In fact, the only way I think we could probably do this show is, number one, if we had faith, and number two, if we had humor, because it's. It's too much. It's Too heavy. If you're really looking at all the. The crap that they're trying. And on the other side of things, I think it's actually kind of endearing. Are we.

[Donut]

I was at the Bro Grove, and I. I wanted to do this funny joke, but I. I didn't do it. But, like, Sam Tripley was up there. He's like, somebody here is a fad or something like that. And I. When he. When he said that, I wanted to just, like, run out.

[Raven]

Out the door, open your fingers to your ear.

[Donut]

But everybody was packing there, so I was like, I'm not gonna do it because I might, like, you know.

[Raven]

Well, you know what it was. We wouldn't have known. We would have just heard the door open, and then we wouldn't have been able to determine, like, who just left. So it would have left a real mystery. It would have been hilarious. But I think it's kind of endearing in some ways when you think about the lengths that they're willing to go to. To try to fuck with us. I mean, isn't that nice? Isn't it kind of crazy that. That, like, we're worthy of trillions of dollars, The. All of the. The accumulated research of the Nazi regime, you know, all. All of just the effort, and then, not only that, but to have idiots like us slip through the cracks and go, wait a second. I don't think that's true. I don't think what you're telling us is true. You know what I mean? Like, what an insulting thing it must be to just be constantly just trying to. Just demonically infested, trying to figure out how to manipulate the masses, dumping all this money. We got to get two taxable incomes. Get that woman to work, too. We need more money so that we can lose it when the Pentagon explodes mysteriously and it's going into all these blacklisted projects. And we're just trying and trying. And, yeah, we'll release the CIA documents years later, and they'll all be redacted. We can never let these people know what we're doing. It's a master plan. And then the three of us, this dude's dressed. This is Teletubby government documents. And we're like, I don't think this is true, man. I don't think we should be afraid. I mean, that's got to be pretty insulting.

[Donut]

It's also. God's in control. So you know that. As though that's the good part, because there's that. That aspect which gets removed. And so there's All. There's also that as well. So like, there's a famous like, saying in the Torah that man plans, God laughs. And so I, I really like, I like that too.

[Raven]

That's why I've kind of given up and I've just kind of gotten, I've gotten like God, whatever your plan is. Like, I know we have all these lights and all this camera and everything, but I honestly feel like it's, it's what God's wanted us to do because it, the path opened up in such a way that it just wouldn't have made sense to not do it. And, and so, you know, whenever I pray, I'm just like, whatever your plan is, because, you know, surely God's plan is better than mine. But yeah, I think it always works out better too.

[Donut]

Like, I got these plans, but now I'm freaking Teletubby on nbs. I mean, come on, like, God's plan, way better than what ever. Like, you know, but that doesn't mean that I don't have responsibility to take action. You know, I gotta take the action as well. Faith without works is dead.

[Raven]

I think that, you know, having conversations like these, well, once again, just to visit that idea of like black pilling, like, that's not what we did here today. And I'm, every time we manage to pull that off, I'm happy. Because that fear, it's also addicting. So a lot of people go to their favorite content creator just to be afraid of whatever the thing is. And we don't do that here. We didn't do that here today. And I'm always happy whenever we can kind of impart that message instead. Because it's like, yeah, if you do have faith, if you believe that there's a God and you're, and you believe that he has a plan, what are you, what are you afraid of? And we've talked about that in the past. Your life is constantly petitioning you to engage in one path or the other, fear or faith. Over and over again, a thing happens to you. And your two choices are usually boiled down to just that. Are you going to choose the path of fear or are you going to choose the path of faith? And that's what I mean when I say, like, when it comes to anger and fear, like, you have to let it go. That letting it go is like, it's, it's faith. It's like giving it up to God and just going like, yeah, man, whatever your plan is, I can't presume to know how things are going to Turn out I'll do my best, I'll work hard, and I'll make the best of what I can do, but ultimately I can't see around the corner. So whatever your plan is, so. And, and once you do that, it's like, what the hell are you gonna be afraid of, bro?

[Donut]

Raven, I've been loving watching your spiritual journey, you know, over the last, I would say, I don't know, whenever you put. Maybe six months ago, I, I, I saw that you were like, posting just like, different kind of like, thoughts or, or, you know, and I just, it's fun to, to watch that same thing with Top as well. I, I love both y' all, like, so much, and also your fam, your family and all that as well. And I'm just so grateful to, you know, be a part of Bro Grove and all that, getting invited there, you know, being blessed with that. So thank you. And also just entrepreneurship is, you know, one of my, my values of creating and all that. And seeing y' all just create like, you guys got the best set. Your set is better than everybody. The camera angles and also the, the team work that y' all do that. It's not like a one man army with y' all that you're able to work with so many people and, and it's just very cool. And even when them trials and tribulations happen, where they try to not allow you to perform your show or just, just so many things and rising above that and continuing as well is just very inspiring to watch. So shout out to y', all, well.

[Raven]

I love you and I'll kiss you on the mouth. And don't do that. I hope that you will come to Bohemian Grove. It'll be awesome to have you. I hope you wear the outfit look we're gonna do with the, like I said, the first weekend in March. And it's, it's still early, we're still setting everything in. But as far as all the homies, you know, Donut Thomas, the paranoid American, everybody who is invited all the time. Chaney, shout out. Who, by the way, needs to get. We're trying to like, she's like, oh, I don't. We should do like a late night. I'm like, I can't stay up late. Chaney, she wants to do everything. She's like, secret society of good guys. Happens at midnight. I am a sleepy old man Cheney. But yeah, of course, everybody told me that.

[Top Lobster]

And like, my, my shriveled up. I was like, are you kidding me? Midnight? I can't be up that late.

[Raven]

She's like, I want to do a fight companion. I'm like, I can't.

[Top Lobster]

I've got things.

[Raven]

Unless it's in Abu Dhabi and it happens at 2:00pm I'm. I, I simply can't. Cheney. But I hope you'll be there. And I would love to. That first day, Donut, it's just gonna be us hanging with all the people.

[Donut]

Yeah, March. I'll be there. Yes.

[Raven]

Let's go. Let's go. We'll iron out the details.

[Donut]

It's the Holy Land. You know, I gotta get to Boca Raton. I mean, I just gotta get there and bathe in that. Yeah, sunshine.

[Raven]

Yeah, baby. You gotta get it. It's different than that.

[Donut]

It's so dry here.

[Raven]

Yeah, we're highly moisturized.

[Top Lobster]

I just wanted to say yeah to what you said before. All the, the work that we put into this. Sometimes, like we'll look around and other people are doing work, but they're playing like solitaire in a way. And they grow and they, they do really good work. But for me, it's always, it never seems worth it if like the people that are around you, the people that you're communicating with, that help you do the show that come to give. Like most of the, most of these people just come and give you an hour and a half of their time. Ed has given us like 200 hours of his time.

[Raven]

Donut was on episode.

[Top Lobster]

Donut was on episode.

[Raven]

Which was technically episode one.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Raven]

Because episode one was like not quite nds, you know what I mean? So it's like, yeah, I believe in that wholeheartedly. It's like, if we're going, the people that helped us are coming.

[Top Lobster]

Honestly, I feel, I just feel bad right now, like for the things that we're doing now. Our platform is growing, but I'm like, I want it to be bigger so that way we could like showcase these people.

[Raven]

I had the same.

[Top Lobster]

You know, I'm saying, I had that.

[Raven]

Conversation last night with somebody where I was like, I see a lot of other people. They don't help the homies. It becomes a one man show. Like Donuts saying. And once you reach a certain level, you like put the walls up or put the doors up. And I'm like, no, dude. Like, I want to get as big as we can. So I could take all these people with us who I think are good guys.

[Top Lobster]

You know what it comes with. Like, like, you are going to get something I learned. I like, you'll get some arrows in the back.

[Raven]

Sure.

[Top Lobster]

You'll like, whatever. Backstabbings or whatever you want to call it, but it doesn't even matter like, that point. At that point, I'm like, maybe I should just stop this. Maybe we should just close that door. And I was like, nah, I don't think so. And then, you know, it eventually works out that you have some.

[Raven]

Speaking of closed doors.

[Donut]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Unbelievable.

[Raven]

Get out. Get out. Close that door. What are you doing?

[Top Lobster]

Can't close the door. You gotta. You gotta invite these people in, and you have to. You have to have that community, like, a real community around you. So we're gonna continue to try to grow it just so that we could showcase, like, the really great people around us. And hopefully our fans cleave. Cleave to them.

[Raven]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

The same way that they've, you know, helped us.

[Raven]

Well, I know that all the dangerous retards love Donut. Oh, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

But that's, like, a given. Like, I'm not even talking about. Don't.

[Raven]

That's.

[Top Lobster]

It's.

[Raven]

I was bragging up Donut. Who was I talking to? I was talking to somebody today. I was like, no, you don't understand. Like, this is a guy that is a solid dude, like a great content creator, but a homie.

[Top Lobster]

Real, real genuine. My dad just, like, broing out.

[Raven]

Just admiring the landscaping.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, it's. It's great.

[Donut]

He's the best.

[Raven]

Well, listen, Donut, let's bring it in for landing. Thank you for your time, brother. Where can everybody go and support your work and find all the awesome content that you make? And you could do a longer plug than just saying Donut. Although it is great branding.

[Donut]

You can find me at D O E N U T. I'm Donut. That's the Patreon. That's the way to support. Support the channel. And I put out content there. Working on the ufo, you know, documentary of the Akashic Files, the time traveling, doing that research over there. I'd be doing, you know, stuff all the time. Go on YouTube right there. Bada bing, bada boom. Yo, what up? Is Donut just, you know. Oh, no, that's Twitter.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, there's YouTube.

[Donut]

There's YouTube. Yeah, it's good. I. I've enjoyed it. Like, it's vocational for me, being a filmmaker. And I kind of don't know where I'm going right now and what I'm becoming. But one. You know, it'll happen. You know, sometimes you get an idea and a vision and you go with it. It, whatever. And I got Illuminati comic I worked on with with our. Our friend Paranoid American. It's a chit track comic. I mean, it's absolutely incredible. You got to go grab one. I'll be putting together something like that. We just. Here get wicked smiles.

[Raven]

Donut merch is the best here. Show off. We got the Illuminati secrets. The top one is up there. The conspiracy box is up there. I got. Pretty sure I have your. Your keychain on My. My key ring. You got the best stuff, man.

[Donut]

I really appreciate that. Every time I watch your show and I see the dolphin, I'm just, like, super, super happy. And I. That may. It really makes me feel happy. But, yeah, we got the VHS box. This. Slanging them, like, you know, it's fun.

[Top Lobster]

Yo, dude, I dropped one of these the other day, and, like, so much stuff came out. I was like, oh, my God.

[Raven]

Oh, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

It's honestly a good. It's a good value because it is. You can't even. I don't even know how they pack this stuff. Because you can't put it back.

[Raven]

No. And it's so. It's so much inside those VHS is so much fun. What a great idea.

[Donut]

Just profit off it. I'm definitely more in debt now because. Because of it. But it's. It's whatever. You know, there's something about, you know, having something, like, sent to you, like a care package rather than just, like, everything's not personal and all that. So. Yeah, I appreciate y'. All. Y' all the best, dude.

[Raven]

You're the best. Thank you. Donut. Thank you for coming on. And I wanted to ask you something after the show, so stick around for a minute.

[Top Lobster]

Or you're not going to ask him?

[Raven]

No. I have to ask one final question. Absolutely. Which is. Before we go, Donut, are you having fun? Not. Not on this episode. I mean, in everything that you're doing. You've been at this for a long time, Donut, are you having fun?

[Donut]

Absolutely.

[Top Lobster]

That's just. Absolutely.

[Raven]

It's hard to ask a man dressed like a telephone.

[Top Lobster]

He's been doing this for 11 years, dude.

[Raven]

Yeah. Donut is like.

[Donut]

I've been doing that. Honestly, it's just like, I took off during the lockdown because of the. You know, that is just. Yeah. Thank you. I have fun.

[Raven]

He's sweating his ass.

[Top Lobster]

I know.

[Raven]

Teletubby suit.

[Top Lobster]

He's, like, getting redder during the show. Guys, thank Donut. Thank you again for coming. Guys. Thanks for hanging out with us at the Standard coffee shop, casino, and Christian Library. We will see you tomorrow. The next day until then, don't forget to obey, submit and comply. Goodbye.

[Donut]

Sa.