
Dive into one of the most intense and thought-provoking Bible studies yet — Elijah: The Tishbite. In this episode of Nephilim Death Squad (NDS), The Raven, Top Lobsta, and Matt Hepner of The Standard Coffee Shop unpack the story of Elijah from 1 Kings...
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Matt Hatner
Hey, this is Sarah. Look, I'm standing out front of a.m. p.m. Right now and well, you're sweet and all, but I found something more fulfilling, even kind of cheesy. But I like it. Sure, you met some of my dietary needs, but they've just got it all. So farewell oatmeal. So long you strange soggy.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
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Top Lobster
Hmm, it's gotta be when I'm really.
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Top Lobster
Could you be more specific when it's cravenient?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay, like a freshly baked cookie made.
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Matt Hatner
A second at AM pm. I'm seeing a pattern here.
Top Lobster
Well yeah, we're talking about what I.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Crave, which is anything from AM pm.
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Top Lobster
Stop by AMPM where the snacks and.
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Top Lobster
Top Lops. Stop it with the rock Lobster stuff.
Matt Hatner
That's what they call you.
Top Lobster
No, we don't do that.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to another episode of Definite Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven. That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation. Before we get into today's episode, I.
Top Lobster
Mean it's not a guest, it's just a no.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We got to let people know where they can support us.
Top Lobster
But you can introduce us to.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, I don't want to introduce him. I like when he sits there. I could feel his nervous energy. It makes me really happy. Guys. Patreon.com forward/ephilim death Squad. That's where you're going to want to go if you want to support the show. We're not going to go live there at the half an hour mark because this is a biblical episode. And we like to give those to the people. But if you're looking for a way to support what we do here at Top Lobster Productions, this will play Squad.
Top Lobster
This will play in its entirety, but it will be taken down after the fact or editing because we don't know what our guests.
Matt Hatner
Raven stole a hobo shirt.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's not true. Great place to support us. We got a bunch of new stuff going on here. Not only is it NDS Chronicles, Nephilim, Death Squad, Neph to America, but we also have two new shows, Straight Bible. Oh, yeah, with Matt, that has been performing very well. Everybody really likes it. We also have the Raven, which is our. It's a talk show. What do you call in show? So we, we're doing a little community.
Matt Hatner
Which went great Monday. We streamed it live actually in the shop and multiple people bought Raven a Dr. Said, hey, tell him he's doing great. I'd like to buy a drink for him. So it actually went really good.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And we're gonna do another one Wednesday night. But we have two new shows. We're working hard here, guys. If you're looking for a way to support, that's the way to do it. Also say hi, Nancy.
Matt Hatner
Hi.
Top Lobster
Damn it.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
There we go. It's like the delay. No, I love the delay.
Top Lobster
I know. There's a three hour delay. Also, guys, keep an eye out for toplopster.com. we're going to be opening up a new drop down menu with. We're gonna have standard coffee, milk and honey coffee. We're gonna have some, some sort of coconut water as well available. Can I touch this? Is this a loud matter?
Matt Hatner
Wait, is that, is that official?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I mean, we're gonna.
Top Lobster
Yeah. No. Well, there's going to be, there's gonna be the affiliate link and I also wanna. I'm gonna have some Straight Bible merch up here as well.
Matt Hatner
Love that. No, I just feel like we have great stuff in the shop that other people want and that's a good way to do it.
Top Lobster
There you go. Stop it with the smelling stuff.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Breathe, dude. I'm just opening up these nostrils. All right, so we're back again with Matt. Matt hard at work today. Maybe some of you caught the last live Straight Bible stream that we just did only a half an hour ago. And Matt says I need more. I want to do more podcasting. I want to talk to the people more. I want to read the Bible more.
Top Lobster
Matt's gonna, he's gonna give us that like, hold on that attitude of more and more and more until finally he's like, no more.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No more.
Matt Hatner
No, no, no. I want to burn out. No. Here's what I'm saying, though. You haven't addressed the fact that I got sunglasses on because I got my eyes dilated. So I just don't want people to know.
Top Lobster
It's not all about you.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You said it before we started this show. You said, my eyes are better now. We said, but you look cool with the sunglasses. And you said, do I really look cool? And we said, yeah, you do. And so you've decided to keep them on. And I agree with that. And I think the chat probably agrees with it, too. Chat W's in the chat for Matt, sunglasses.
Top Lobster
Well, extreme lack of W's. It's fine.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No W's. Not a single W. And anywho, so. So, Matt, tell us what we're going to be talking about today. Because you said something disturbing before we started, which was like, I don't even know what we're going to talk about.
Matt Hatner
Because I can't do the face today when you talk.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, I like it better. So much nicer. You look more pleasant.
Matt Hatner
I hate that I could.
Top Lobster
I.
Matt Hatner
It's way less blurry, though. It's way less blurry. But it's just, like, bright. It's just incredibly bright. But. So the topic is, what are we talking about today? Is that. Is that the question?
Top Lobster
Yeah, I mean, well, so we did the Book of Daniel. It was a great book. Great name. Some would say the best name. We finished that. It's probably one of the most important books in the Bible. So now we're going to move on to one that's less important, and we're going to cover a different story.
Matt Hatner
None of the books are more or less important. They're all incredibly important. We should be going into some of the gospels and the life of Jesus and the teachings of Jesus, but we'll be getting more into that, like in sidebars with this study of Elijah.
Top Lobster
Elijah, very good.
Matt Hatner
And with the study of Jude. But this is what we're dealing with right now is Elijah the Tishbite. And I don't know what the deal is for you guys to be able to buy them in the chat, because I've been hammering top after doing, like, such great.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We don't want to sell them to.
Matt Hatner
Be able to get those to other people. People come in the store and buy them all the time.
Top Lobster
Yeah, we want them to come in.
Matt Hatner
No, but I'd love for people that live in Arkansas to be able to get their hands on these Shirts. So.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, real quick, Floridians. Guys, we live from the standard coffee shop. I gotta remember to say that. Standard coffee Shop, NDS Studios. If you're in local. Cassie Casino.
Top Lobster
Can we do that? Standard coffee shop, Studio, Christian Lounge and casino.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's a. That's a mouthful.
Top Lobster
It's like library.
Matt Hatner
The casino thing come from.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, you have like three machines in the back.
Matt Hatner
What machines?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And what I want to say to the audience is what you can do.
Top Lobster
The ones right by the bathroom.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Right by the bathroom.
Matt Hatner
There's no machines back there.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't know.
Top Lobster
Well, you're not. Old people are funneling in and out of here all day and just ka ching, cha ching.
Matt Hatner
Call them.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Because in Florida you have to call them. Arcade.
Top Lobster
No, it's called Fish Games. Oh, fish.
Matt Hatner
Can we just read 1 King 17 because you guys are going to play games all day.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Shout out to the Standard coffee shop, please. Go ahead.
Top Lobster
I like the show, but I could do without the effing banter.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
The banter is really what gets people they don't like.
Matt Hatner
No, when the lady who doesn't say the F word says, oh, I love the show, but I just hate the effing banter.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I get it, I get it. It's fine. We're not fine.
Top Lobster
It's all right. Whatever. All right, go ahead, Matt, read. You could read. Oh, can you read or do you.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Need somebody to read for you?
Matt Hatner
Okay, who's. Whose computer's up.
Top Lobster
My computer's up.
Matt Hatner
Okay, we're go. We're in 1 Kings chapter 17. Not 1 Kings, chapter 1, verse 17.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Come on, man.
Matt Hatner
No, we thoroughly went over this.
Top Lobster
You see the problem?
Matt Hatner
And I told the Raven that and he still.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Ah, guys, you really gotta. Got you let me know that his communication skills.
Matt Hatner
I can read that. I can't read close to me, but I can absolutely read that.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Can you? Maybe we can make this full screen top so that he can. Because he's getting, he's getting kind of old. And really that's what people don't know. The reason that he to the eye doctor and he said, there's something wrong with my eyes. And the doctor said it's called you're old.
Matt Hatner
No, she said I had great vision. And when she looked at everything for a 60 year old man, incredibly healthy eyeballs.
Top Lobster
So great eyeballs. Let's dilate them.
Matt Hatner
The Lord loves me and takes care of my body. So I'm like not super surprised by that. I was just really glad there wasn't any issue. I'm not sure why you're laughing, but whatever.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right, go ahead. Please read the Bible.
Matt Hatner
I can't see it.
Top Lobster
And Elijah. Yeah, sorry.
Matt Hatner
I can read that. I can read that.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right, go ahead, guys.
Top Lobster
The banter. Keep it to a minute.
Matt Hatner
And Elijah the Tishbite, who was of the inhabitants of Gilead, said unto Ahab, as the Lord God of Israel lives, before whom I stand, there shall not do nor rain. There shall not be due nor rain these years. But according to my word. So just right from the jump, you got this dude. He's a prophet. He's kind of. He's not necessarily, like, in the mix. There's. There's different types. I heard a guy one day say, every man of God should have a Bible in one hand and the newspaper in the other. And I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that. I actually, when he said that, was like, he's totally wrong. It's actually the exact opposite. Like, a man of God should kind of be very secluded from society. He should just be digging into God, knowing him, having plenty of time in the Word, and just quiet things with the Lord.
Top Lobster
And then being quiet is important.
Matt Hatner
Yes. But then I came to the conclusion that what I was saying was wrong as well. This is the thing you have to do. You can't just say, oh, this is my doctrine, and I stand by it forever. I thought about it, and I realized, because I was thinking about Elijah, I'm like, this dude was not engaged in, like, the politics of his day. He didn't care what was on Twitter. He didn't care what everybody was talking about. And he just wasn't in the mix with the world. He was very secluded, as we're going to find as we read this book.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What about the Kardashians?
Matt Hatner
But then there was dudes like Daniel who were in the mix.
Top Lobster
What about Justin Bieber's.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, the Biebers.
Matt Hatner
And there was dudes like Nehemiah. They were, like, in the mix. Right? So.
Top Lobster
So, yeah, Daniel was involved politically.
Matt Hatner
Yes.
Top Lobster
Deeply involved.
Matt Hatner
Yes. So there's all these different types, man. And so there's some who are in seclusion and there's some who are on the mix. And that's the beautiful thing about the body of Christ, is that it's different. Like, eyeballs don't look like a kneecap, and a kneecap doesn't look like fingernails, and the fingernails don't look like hair or eyebrows. You see what I'm saying? It's like the body looks different, and that's okay. Well, Elijah's the type. He's kind of living in seclusion, and he's not going for the being in the mix. What's the word? That's like a key phrase today, where all of America is Christians again.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, Christian nationalism.
Matt Hatner
He's not really, like, you know, Christian nationalism or whatever. He's just not in the mix. He's just, like, out.
Top Lobster
He's just chilling the outskirts.
Matt Hatner
Okay, so this dude walks up to the king, right? This is not a fairy tale. It's just like if he walked up to Trump, like the president, like the leader of the nation, and he says. He says, hey, Ahab King. Just. Just so we're on the same page here. As the Lord God of Israel lives, before whom I stand, there shall not be dew nor rain any of these years. But according to my word, that's almost terrorism. I mean, funny you say that. Funny you say that.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Funny you say that.
Top Lobster
No, right, because, like, I mean, if you don't believe in God or if the King didn't believe that this is the word of God, which is also very tricky. Some dude comes up to you and he's like, there's not going to be any coffee in here until I say so. You'd be like, what the hell did you just say to me?
Matt Hatner
Right, but this, on another level, dude, this is famine. Like, they don't have publix. They don't have chick Fil A. Like, they don't have. You don't have, like, McDonald's. Like, if you don't have rain, you don't have.
Top Lobster
No, no, no, no, no. We can't. I'm sorry. This is my show.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You're not just gonna be making up words. You're not gonna make up words. Okay.
Top Lobster
No, he did it on purpose, though.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's fine.
Top Lobster
Okay, keep reading. Fine, I guess we'll do it.
Matt Hatner
This.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That was not nice. He's getting too comfortable.
Top Lobster
So, like, chick fil A. Chick fil A.
Matt Hatner
What's wrong with chick?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Put some respect on. They're closed on Sunday.
Matt Hatner
If it was filet, it would be ET On.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, but that's how you spell filet.
Top Lobster
Just respect the way they say it in the commercials. And they're 501C3 location.
Matt Hatner
Anyway, so this dude goes to the King and says, yeah, it's not going to rain. There's going to be famine in the land until I say different. A lot of people aren't ready for that. But that's what he says.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
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Top Lobster
I know what I'm doing, Mom.
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Top Lobster
Shh.
Matt Hatner
They're here.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Wait, so. So Elijah came and said that.
Matt Hatner
Yes.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay.
Matt Hatner
To King Ahab. And the word of the Lord came unto him, saying, get thee hence and turn the eastward and hide thyself by the brook. Cherith that is before Jordan. Is that the biggest we can get? The letters?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, he can make it full screen. He's just refusing to get the hence off. Schnapps.
Top Lobster
There we go. Better.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All crazy now.
Matt Hatner
Yeah, we got to go up a little bit.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
A little bit.
Matt Hatner
Keep going. Hide thyself. Get the hints. Turn the eastward and hide thyself.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Just.
Matt Hatner
Just take notice of that phrase. I think this is a big deal, actually. Leonard Ravenhill used to talk about this. Your guy. He's talking about, you need to know when God's telling you to hide yourself and when God's telling you to go show yourself. Right.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So wait, wait, Elijah is telling.
Matt Hatner
No, no, we've jumped from that. Elijah in verse one. He's making the announcement to the king in verse two. Now it's God speaking to Elijah.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay, okay, son, go hide.
Top Lobster
Because you just. He's like.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You just said some wild.
Top Lobster
He's like, go say this to them. It's like. Like impractical jokers. And they're like, he did it. He did it.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Run.
Top Lobster
Run now.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Run, run, run. Go hide yourself by the brook.
Matt Hatner
So the word of the Lord comes to him and says, get the hence, turn eastward and go hide yourself by the brook. Cherith that is before Jordan.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay.
Matt Hatner
And it shall be. This is heavy, bro. You're gonna love this. And it shall be that you shall drink of the brook. And I've commanded the ravens to feed you there.
Top Lobster
Okay, okay, really quick. I'm actually working on a piece of the ravens feeding Elijah.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, that's cool.
Top Lobster
Really cool.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That is cool.
Top Lobster
Similar style.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm not going to lie, though. A little gross. Just a little bit gross.
Top Lobster
Like, what are they doing?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Are going to. Are they baby burdened him?
Top Lobster
They're, like, throwing up in his mouth and he's just like.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And he's like, sustenance by the brook.
Top Lobster
They're probably bringing him strips of meat. Ravens, like, rip off.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But it went in their feed in their mouth. I mean, it's cool. It's cool. If you're starving, it's cool. Just saying.
Matt Hatner
It shall be that you shall drink of the brook, and I've commanded the ravens to feed thee there. So he's going. He's chilling out in a very secluded place. There's a brook there, so he's got water to drink. And ravens are actually going to bring him food. So this is like hiding, bro. This is like. Yeah, dude, I don't even want you out foraging. I don't want you out hunting. Like, just stay in the cut. Just stay very secluded.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Sip on.
Top Lobster
They're probably, like, ripping the way. Ravens and, like, hawks. They'll rip out the strips of meat, and they're probably, like, bringing them, like, little fillets.
Matt Hatner
Okay, let's just read it. Let's just read it. So he went and did according unto the word of the Lord. That's a big deal. For he went and dwelt by the brook, Cherith, that is before Jordan. And the ravens brought him bread and flesh in the morning and bread and flesh in the evening, and he drank of the brook.
Top Lobster
So, okay, who's making this bread?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right.
Top Lobster
They stealing the bread.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, so just stealing.
Matt Hatner
This is actually why I like doing this with you guys. I don't. What do you think? Like, what. Like, what is this saying?
Top Lobster
They definitely stealing the bread.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, that's a problem. Maybe orphans.
Top Lobster
Maybe the flesh is from the children that. No, I mean, no, they're killing stuff for sure. But the bread is a. Is a. I don't know. God. God gave manna from heaven, but that's described as manna. Right. But that's kind of like bread, dude.
Matt Hatner
I love what you're saying right here. So miraculously, God brought bread to Israel in the form of manna. Here's another instance where he's bringing bread miraculously to Elijah, but it's another way. He's doing it another way. Yeah, but he's miraculously bringing bread and flesh. I don't know. Are these dudes just catching, like, rabbits and bringing them to them? Are they catching, like. I don't know.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm just Laughing at the chat. Gary Joseph says, ah, bread and flesh in the morning. Just like mom used to make bread and fl. I mean, it's interesting. And it doesn't all have to be from one central location. So even if the ravens are taking it from other people's like let's say plates just for an example here or you know, just to speak in generalities. What. How much could a raven take that it would actually burden a person? So if the ravens are going out and just scavenging, because they are scavengers, right. And they're taking a little bit here and a little bit there, really no one's at a loss. But Elijah's getting fed. That is interesting.
Matt Hatner
Dude. I like that. I love your guys insight on stuff.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Insight, don't call it.
Matt Hatner
You guys hear these stories and then that's why I'm so excited for you guys to get serious about the Bible because it's like very intrigued when you have like insight about what is your what.
Top Lobster
Like you do a Bible study with high school kids.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, is that.
Top Lobster
They're not asking these questions?
Matt Hatner
No, their questions are way better and way more intelligent. But it's crazy.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That was rude.
Top Lobster
Shout out to the villages high school. They do it.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So if we were to get more serious, what would be more serious?
Matt Hatner
Like the homies. If we, if we want to just talk about my boys, the high school kids, they went to the Mormon church Sunday. Did I tell you guys that why they went to the Mormon church?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
The Mormons do.
Matt Hatner
All because they have some Mormon buddies on the football team. And they brought him back to talk to like what they call a bishop. Like the pastor at the Mormon church.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Sure.
Matt Hatner
And the dude, JJ and C Drain and Gavin just lit him up with questions, man.
Top Lobster
Christian.
Matt Hatner
Christian.
Top Lobster
Yeah, I like that. That dude has so many names. Yeah.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Sein Seadrain.
Matt Hatner
Sedrain, bro. Yeah, they went. They went straight to the guy like. So JJ's first question was, how come all like in the service today, you guys kept talking about the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith, but I didn't hear nothing about Jesus. Oh, they stabbed him just raw. They're just Bible readers.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What do they say to that?
Matt Hatner
He said they just went on this long roundabout answer that kind of didn't.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Make sense when we talk about Joseph.
Matt Hatner
Smith and they said it was a little bit like if you were to like go like this to the guy, like they just kind of, you know, like if like a politician, if you were to like go like this, they're honest.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
They got a spiel they're on an autopilot.
Matt Hatner
Yeah. Just almost like. You hate to say a spell, but, like, just. They're kind of there but not there the way they would answer.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, because if not in the room, it's very whimsical.
Matt Hatner
Yes.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
If you. If you ask them, they're like, oh, no, we don't worship Joseph Smith. We just, you know, pay respects to him because yada, yada.
Top Lobster
That's what I like to do. This is what I really like about the church that I go to. I like to do that to people. Like to, like, rub and then see.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like, what comes out.
Top Lobster
If they, like, rub them. Yeah. Do you like that?
Matt Hatner
No. This is the banter that people are talking.
Top Lobster
No, I like to. I like to, like, like, move them a little bit and see if they're a real person.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You got to be careful, though, because they're all, like, 90, so.
Top Lobster
No, not, though. You got to be like, the younger people. The younger people that I. That I'm. I'm interacting with. I'll do little things, like, to make them uncomfortable. Like, you see how Matt is doing.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I love the sunglasses because you can't tell when he's.
Top Lobster
Matt's got a lot of 501C3 tendencies, and we can make him. I make him uncomfortable on purpose to see how he reacts.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
Because I want to see if he's a real, like, you know, that's what I like to do with the people. I talk to them and I. And then I just.
Matt Hatner
Sounds creepy the way you explain.
Top Lobster
I push a little bit. I poke and I push, and I see how they react to see if they're like a human being there.
Matt Hatner
That's the nice thing with the young guys, though, dude, is they're just raw. Like, they haven't been trained.
Top Lobster
Sea Drain.
Matt Hatner
He's raw, bro.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right, can you please continue reading? It's just so distracting. The ravens are feeding him bread and flesh in the morning and bread and flesh in the evening.
Top Lobster
He's drinking from the brook, and you could tell that Elijah's not on the tv, dog.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You're fine.
Top Lobster
Elijah's not a real Jew. Because he would complain. He's a tish bite. He would have complained. No wine.
Matt Hatner
I don't necessarily like what you're saying and how you're saying it, but it brings up a very intriguing topic. Is like, yeah, Tish. The Tish bite. Like, here at the Zebra.
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Matt Hatner
He was of the inhabitants of Gilead. That's what it says in verse one, which looks like that's part of Israel proper.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Is this flesh kosher?
Matt Hatner
But I mean, that's a fair point, dude. Is the dude, is Elijah a Jew? I mean, that's a. That's a fair. Some people go down that path, and it's kind of intriguing. There's no record of, like, a genealogy. There's no record of anything before him. You have other prophets where it describes.
Top Lobster
Early life section of Elijah, The Wikipedia section.
Matt Hatner
Yeah, there's like, nothing on the guide, dude. He just kind of like, he comes on the scene, like right here. He comes on the scene, dude, and then he vanishes off the scene as we're gonna see when we go through the story.
Top Lobster
Vanishes as quick as he can in a big way.
Matt Hatner
Very intriguing, dude. Very intriguing.
Top Lobster
Well, he doesn't he come back and talk to Jesus? Real quick, Top, let's go. That's a whole nother thing.
Matt Hatner
What are you referencing?
Top Lobster
The transfiguration?
Matt Hatner
Boom.
Top Lobster
Okay, but wait, we're burying the lead. Keep reading.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay.
Matt Hatner
No, I just wish the raven would start to know these stories as much as you, man.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I got it.
Matt Hatner
So it takes a long time for me to read. The ravens brought him bread and flesh in the morning and bread and flesh in the evening. And he drank of the brook, and it came to pass. I mean, that's a. That's a disciplined lifestyle. Two meals a day. That's discipline, man. And it came to pass after a while that the brook dried up because there had been no rain in the land. Elijah started crying and said, oh, God, why don't you take Care of me. The brook dried up.
Top Lobster
No, Elijah said, it's up to him, though.
Matt Hatner
He didn't say, oh, God, why didn't you take care of me? He definitely did not say that.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Why is he trying to throw us a trick?
Matt Hatner
He was down. He was like, okay, whatever. Because the word of the Lord came to him, saying, arise, get thee to Zarephath, which belongs to Zidon.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, I was gonna say, time to get.
Top Lobster
I know, I know. This is a touchy subject. He's not Jewish. Like, clearly, all the stories before him, they're like. They're complaining through the desert the whole time. And he's like, he's in the desert in a way.
Matt Hatner
No, no, no, no. The man of God in those stories is not complaining. Moses, Joshua, those guys are not complaining. It's Israel as a whole is complaining. Like this giant institution of covenant people. Those people may be astray and those people may be complaining, but the man of God within that system is Job, a Jew.
Top Lobster
Can I say something really quick?
Matt Hatner
Doesn't look like it looks like he's way before, because remember, Israel had. Israel had a beginning. Like. Like everything before Abraham, everything before Moses really is. Is not technically Hebrew, is not technically Israel. They didn't have a law yet. They weren't a nation. So, like anything before Abraham, which a lot of people place Job before Abraham.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He do be complaining.
Matt Hatner
Yeah. Because some people have this misconception that the entire Old Testament is the law. Like, it's not. There's a bunch of pre law stuff which I think would include Job too.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
They're saying if he was a Jew, it would make sense.
Top Lobster
I just want to say something really quickly.
Matt Hatner
Can I do this? Say something.
Top Lobster
What?
Matt Hatner
No, you say that now like you copy the things I say now.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And that's regular.
Top Lobster
Like, it's a good way to interject this right here, whatever Matt gave me here, this is called the piss pistino.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't know how you named it. Why would you write something like that on the board?
Matt Hatner
One of Aiden's homies when he was a little kid. Brady.
Top Lobster
Shout out Brady.
Matt Hatner
Yeah, he's my guy, dude. He's playing college football right now. Pistachios. He called them pastinos. He's like, matt, can I get some. One of those pistinos? I love it. Just need to drink pastino because it's got story behind it.
Top Lobster
Banger drink white. What a pistachio. I don't know how they're even mixing it, but come to the. Come to the standard.
Matt Hatner
He had the Goat yesterday. Caramel macadamia now. But can we just get back to the.
Top Lobster
Come to the standard coffee shop, Christian.
Matt Hatner
Lounge and casino engaging in the word of God.
Top Lobster
Get a. Get a pastino, dude. So good. Okay.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Come hang out.
Matt Hatner
But you're. But you're bringing up an interesting topic now. Whether he's Jewish or not, Jesus actually brings up this story that. That Elijah is sent to a woman of Zidon and not to Israel. We're not going to go down that path right now. But Jesus brings this up and it pisses the Jews off in that day, the Pharisees and stuff that Jesus has beef with. Because, remember, Jesus never had beef with the common people. His only beef was with the religious institution that claimed to represent him.
Top Lobster
I'm just. I'm just harping on this because on the tweeter, oh, there's been a lot of conversation about Christian Zionism because Tucker Carlson said that he hates Christian Zionists. And it's a whole thing now. People are coming out of the woodwork in their misquoting Matthew. Like Matthew chapter 10, where Jesus sends out the disciples only for. For the Jews, not the Gentiles. But then they'll quote the first couple.
Matt Hatner
But then later he sends them out not just for.
Top Lobster
Well, but not just that. Within that same story, he goes. And when they. And when they disregard you if they don't want to hear your words, wipe the dust of your feet off and leave.
Matt Hatner
Yes.
Top Lobster
So I'm like, you're. But whatever. So I'm just very sensitive because of the tweeter.
Matt Hatner
You guys should stop watching the Twitter shows in the tweet.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What is this, you guys?
Matt Hatner
Whatever. It's so distracting. Like, whatever the news is today and whatever they're arguing about today is so distracting.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But it's not distracting.
Matt Hatner
They've been arguing Zionism. Like what? Like, just study the Bible and see what the Bible says about Israel and study what the Bible says about the church and then just live according to that and don't get. Don't be worried about. If Tucker Carlson said this, you're saying, like, straight Bible said that or some other people said this or that. Just go straight Bible.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I feel like you're being rude.
Top Lobster
No, I am. I am. I'm just. It just gets annoying because they're reaching thousands of people saying half the Bible. There's like, here are the three verses that I've cherry picked. And I was like, read the next two.
Matt Hatner
People don't read the entirety of Scripture either. So they're just, like, parroting things. This is a major issue is people parroting things. Like a parrot on the pirate shoulder. They just hear the thing, and then they just parrot it. And they've never read the entirety of the Bible. So if you don't read the entirety of the Bible more than once, like, cultivate a lifestyle of reading the Bible from beginning and then reading it again and then reading it again, then you don't know what you don't know. Like. Like, that's the terrible thing, is that people are talking about these topics and theology and doctrine and things that they're just, like, sold out to, and they don't even know what they don't know because they haven't read the entirety of the Bible. They don't understand the concepts. They're just, like, parroting things.
Top Lobster
Yep, exactly. All right, we can. We can continue. I'm sorry. It's just. It's fine. This is very interesting.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Can you get back on track?
Top Lobster
Okay, we're getting back on track, man. Come on, man. That's your job.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He lost his place.
Matt Hatner
You know what's interesting about this? We're going to get into this creature called Jezebel a little later, and it looks like that's actually where Elijah was sent to, was, like, from her, the nation that she's from. But let's go a little further. Where are we? In verse nine.
Top Lobster
Arise. Get thee to Zarephath, which belongeth to Zidon, which.
Matt Hatner
It looks like that's where Jezebel's from, and dwell there. Behold, now, it's not a raven. I've commanded a widow woman there to sustain thee. He says, bro, don't worry, I'm gonna. You're gonna be sustained. You don't exactly know where it's coming from, but I got this. So he arose and went to Zarephath, and actually, the raven's really good at that. Do you ever notice he just doesn't have a care in the world about what. Or emotions about what is. The guy doesn't have a care. He just knows he's gonna be taken care of. And I love that.
Top Lobster
All right, well, maybe it's an old lady with a little bit of oil. She'll help you out. Earl.
Matt Hatner
Earl.
Top Lobster
So he arose and went to Zarephath, and when he came to the gate of the city, behold, the widow woman was there, gathering of sticks. And he called a bundle of sticks. Stop it.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay.
Top Lobster
And he called to her, if. I mean, there's a lot of older people that are not going to get that reference.
Matt Hatner
And it makes me laugh. I like when he does that. He doesn't understand the seriousness of this.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's very serious. I understand, but I.
Matt Hatner
Gathering sticks. He called to her and said, fetch me, I pray thee, a little water in a vessel that I can drink.
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Matt Hatner
And as she was going to fetch it, he called to her and said, bring me, I pray thee, a morsel of bread in your hand. And she said, as the Lord thy God lives. I have. I don't even have a cake. I just have a handful of meal. A handful of meal in a barrel and a little oil in a cruse. And behold, I'm gathering two sticks that I may go in and dress it for me and my son, that we may eat it and die.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Wait.
Matt Hatner
A little bit of sticks to make a fire to make her last meal.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, this is.
Top Lobster
Okay.
Matt Hatner
And that's why he's mocking me, because he lives in America and doesn't understand this concept of famine. We have unlimited food, bro. Like, he knows we have unlimited food.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm not mocking you. Just as a bundle of sticks.
Top Lobster
This story. This story. If you've read some of Stephen King's work, one of his, like, magnum opus is the Dark Tower. And the main character, Roland, is like this gunslinger type character. And there is a scene where this almost exact thing plays out and we're like. They're basically there just to eat and die. And he comes there, they feed him, they help him out. But instead, like, it's the inverse of this story where these people. Well, I mean, we'll keep reading, but I'm just like. It's very interesting how they pick. They'll pick from the Bible because it's like a. Like a very strong archetypal story and these stories. And then they'll invert it or switch it around, but people like it and not. They'll never know.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
The greatest pieces of media are literally just like. Like Lord of the Rings is the Bible. It's the story of Christ told in three different archetypes from. From Gandalf and Frodo and in Aragorn. And then the same thing with. With. With Harry Potter.
Top Lobster
It's.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's just a retelling of the Bible. That's why it's so popular.
Top Lobster
I know Matt's like, I'm lost. I straight Bible.
Matt Hatner
I don't know. Harry Potter's the Bible. I don't know. I'm not getting into that. I'm just saying I try to teach my kids, like, be grateful you don't live in famine and war. That's what I always told my kids, be grateful that we're not, like, hiding out in trenches and bomb shelters and that we have food. Like, never forget how, like, how bad this life can get. I sent you guys that passage the other day where they were eating their children. Yeah. Yeah, dude. Like, we should be reading these passages and just take a second and go, lord, thank you.
Top Lobster
Like, I'm.
Matt Hatner
I'm really like, whatever I've been complaining about is not that big of a deal.
Top Lobster
The bizarre part about that passage was that not just that they were eating their children, but, like, it seemed like the complaint of the woman to the king was that, like, I we ate.
Matt Hatner
My kid and now she's hiding her.
Top Lobster
Yeah, it's like, what the hell? Like, let's eat both the lines. Your kid, too.
Matt Hatner
Yeah, but you should read that and say, God, thank you. Like, like, wow, look how bad the human experience can get. Concept of that.
Top Lobster
Dude, I'm drinking a pastino right now.
Matt Hatner
This is great. We live in luxury and comfort, which I'm incredibly grateful for. But I always want to be mindful that I just keep in mind how really bad the human experience can get. And I don't want to be. That's what happens when you read the scripture. You're not disconnected from it. Like, you're very connected to it, and it becomes your story, and it becomes part of your heart. And you just start to know, like, wow, this can get really bad. Maybe I should be really grateful that I wake up and have running water and food and electricity and buttons on the wall to make whatever temperature I want and all these other things.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right, dude, I'm sorry about the stick joke, okay?
Top Lobster
You know what? The bundle.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Ask.
Top Lobster
Ask your kids. They probably know. Okay, here we go.
Matt Hatner
Where are we at now?
Top Lobster
And Elijah said unto her, fear not. That's one of my T shirts. We like that one. Go and do as thou hast said, but make me thereof a little cake first, and bring it unto me, and after make for thee and thy son.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's a little wild to be like, oh, I hear you're making your last. But just, can you make me one first? Like, I know you're making your death cake.
Top Lobster
Well, it's a test of faith, right? I suppose that's kind of crazy.
Matt Hatner
Well, not until we read the next verse. Can Raven read the next verse? And instead of four, can you use the word because?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, Everybody knows what four means. Which one is it? 17, 14.
Matt Hatner
Okay, read 13 and 14. But when you say four, say because.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay, I'll do that. But the chat needs to tell me if they know what four means in this context. Was it 1714 or 1713?
Matt Hatner
1713.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And Elijah said unto her, fear not, fear not, go and do as thou has said, but make me thereof a little cake first and bring it unto me. And after. Make, make.
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Matt Hatner
No, no. Make for thee, you said.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Because when it says four, make for.
Matt Hatner
Thee and for thy son, which seems heartless. Seems heartless.
Top Lobster
Right.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay.
Matt Hatner
Oh, you're gonna die. Hey, hey, before you die, can you make me a cake? Now say because.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay. As thus said, the Lord God of Israel, the barrel of meal shall not waste, neither shall the curse of oil fail. I'm sorry. Oh, the cruise.
Top Lobster
Hold on.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Hold on a second. We have.
Matt Hatner
Let's go.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Who's that for? Is that for me?
Top Lobster
Yes.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I got a drink. Thank you very much.
Top Lobster
David gets all the drinks.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You have a drink. Thank you, Aubrey. Guys, come to the Standard coffee shop and drink. You have to go.
Top Lobster
Oh, sh. What happened?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That door locks. You did great.
Matt Hatner
All the people in the chat love the bubble pony.
Top Lobster
Yeah, they said. Oh, they love that.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Shout out to Aubrey's bubble pony. That's what they said. Thank you, Aubrey. So. So. So. Okay, let's bring that back on because I'm sorry, I minced a couple of those words. Because thus say the Lord God of Israel, the barrel of meal shall not waste, neither shall the cruise of oil. Cruise.
Matt Hatner
Yeah.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Of oil fail until the day that the Lord sendeth rain upon the earth. So it's not heartless. He just has faith in God and he's like, this is going to work out because God told me this is coming.
Matt Hatner
Yeah, I think they know Elijah's a man of God. I think. I think what's happening is, like, this dude comes on the scene and there's a certain presence where they're like, damn, this dude's with the Lord.
Top Lobster
But where is she from? She's from. Yeah, but that's like not. He's like the Lord of Israel. The Lord of God of Israel says, and I mean, I could be like.
Matt Hatner
Well, that's because he's identifying who he's talking about. He's not talking about the God of the Zidonians. He's not talking about the God of Mesopotamia. He's talking about the God of Israel.
Top Lobster
But do you think these people of this region care about the God of Israel?
Matt Hatner
Oh, yeah. Okay. They're well aware. I mean this, this is the, this is the area that like when they came out of Egypt and they took over everything, like, yeah, the nations know about the God of Israel.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay, so you think that because she, she understands Elijah is a man of God and not because she's like, well, we're gonna die anyway, so yeah, might as well just give this guy.
Matt Hatner
There could be some of that. There could be some of that. There could be that. I mean, that's why I like your guys insight. It could be she's. Yeah, what the heck, who cares? I'm going to die anyway. And this is just a thing that God's doing for her to, to bring her to himself.
Top Lobster
They're calling her Aubrey. Aubrey.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Aubrey. Aubrey with the, the bubble pony.
Top Lobster
Yeah, they like Aubrey. Okay, Aubrey with the bubble. That's. That's very disrespectful.
Matt Hatner
Chapter. So he's, he's just saying like, this is the God we're talking about because we've talked about it a lot. The lowercase g gods. And they rule over nations, they rule over territories. He's saying, let's just be clear who we're talking about. We're talking about the uppercase G God of all the planet, of all the universe, who happens to be the God of this nation state called Israel, which I get it, is very offensive and it's like a trigger word today.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So either she's like, no, understood, or she's like, yeah, whatever dude, take your cake.
Matt Hatner
Don't know. We don't know, man.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay.
Matt Hatner
Yeah, right.
Top Lobster
And she went and did, according to the saying of Elijah and she. And he in her house did eat many days.
Matt Hatner
So she acted according to faith. So she had faith and she acted accordingly. She didn't say, oh, I believe you, I have faith. And then went back and didn't do it. No, she went back and did it. So this faith without works is dead.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
This is a very Similar situation to, like, the oil in the lamp kind of a thing. Never going out.
Top Lobster
Fish and loaves. I don't know.
Matt Hatner
No. Well, because it was like the virgins with the oil.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, and it's like the big Jew thing that all the Jews love. But it's like the oil in the lamp. Yeah. I don't know. I have some messianic Jews in my language.
Matt Hatner
No, no, no. There's the parable of the ten virgins. And so they all have lamps, and half of them have oil, and half of them don't have oil. And so I can kind of see how you're saying, oh, both these stories have oil in them. Like, that's fair. But those are two, like, really different.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's a miracle that. So let me see here what we got.
Matt Hatner
The phrase offers this story, then maybe.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It is the parable, the 10 virgins. I don't know.
Matt Hatner
No, no. But this story does get miraculous here in a minute. So you might be referencing this story.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't know. Shout out to my. Shout out to my messianic Jew family.
Top Lobster
And the barrel of meal was not wasted. Wasted not. Neither did the cruise of oil fail, according to the word of the Lord, which he spake by Elijah.
Matt Hatner
So that little scoop of what it. What did she have? Can you go back up?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I think it is Hanukkah.
Matt Hatner
The little scoop of meal never went away, and the oil never went away.
Top Lobster
That's crazy, right?
Matt Hatner
That's what I'm saying, man.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay, so it's the Hanukkah oil story. That's what it is that.
Top Lobster
Oh, we don't do Hanukkah here.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, I'm just saying this is a similar story, right? The miracle that occurred when the Maccabees rededicated the second temple in Jerusalem, finding only one small jar of sacred olive oil, and it was enough to light the temple's menorah for a single day. But miraculously, it lasted eight days, and the oil never ran. It was only a little bit that was supposed to be able to light the menorah, but somehow it lasted eight days. And if you go back, he's saying that they ate for days. Not like. I'm not saying it's play on words there, but I'm saying they ate. The barrel never emptied. The barrel of meal never emptied.
Top Lobster
Can we just put side by side the holiday of Hanukkah versus the holiday of Christmas and how much better Christmas is? It's on every front, and it actually not even close.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It deeply upsets me that in The Rugrats, they. They chose to focus. I know it's like a Jewish cartoon, but they focused on Hanukkah, but they never had a Christmas episode.
Top Lobster
Really?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, yeah, they had a Hanukkah episode.
Matt Hatner
But not a. I'm straight Bible. I don't know. I'm, like, talking about the Rugrats, this creature called Santa Claus. And then they got this Christmas tree and all this. I don't know. It's whatever. Hanukkah really isn't like a Bible thing. Except for, if I remember correct, it's. They're celebrating that time in Esther Guamaka. That's where it starts at.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm sorry, I don't mean to laugh. Guamaka's funny. Isn't that funny?
Matt Hatner
Yeah, you guys love blapping and Guama, but nevertheless, like, I'm just not a big. Like, the whole Christmas thing. Whatever. It's just like. Yeah, whatever.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, but you celebrate Christmas at your house, right?
Top Lobster
No, we're gonna help you out.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I like in the studio.
Matt Hatner
I like that people come home from college and you see them and you see families, and that time of year is, like, cozy. And it's cold in Florida.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Giving people stuff.
Matt Hatner
So it's a vibe like. I like that, dog.
Top Lobster
We're getting, like, a full size Christmas tree. Like seven, eight foot. Put it right.
Matt Hatner
That will never happen.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You said, treat this place like it's your home.
Matt Hatner
Other than that. Other than that.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right, we're getting a menorah.
Top Lobster
And it came. So Elijah raises this, the widow's son. This is what I like about the Bible, too, is read the super chat. Well, that's Nancy's job.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, Nancy doesn't want to interrupt. This is a Bible study, not a. There's no super chats.
Matt Hatner
Two can play that game, boys. Two can play that game.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Wow.
Top Lobster
Distracted.
Matt Hatner
Let's go. Verse 17.
Top Lobster
What I like about the Bible is, like, the expanse of time that that goes by. It's just like, one verse is like, yo, they ate for, like, a bunch of days. Anyway, Elijah raised this lady's son.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Damn, that's crazy.
Top Lobster
That's a long time.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's crazy because he shows up, but he's like, the food that you're gonna put in your son's mouth. Give it to me. Because God said so. And then it all works out. He's like, now I'm gonna raise him. Like, talk about God taking care of you.
Matt Hatner
We're, like, jumping ahead. Did we read how he passed and everything? Or was I just.
Top Lobster
That was it. Yeah, that's it so 16 which he spake by Elijah.
Matt Hatner
The.
Top Lobster
The words according to the word of the Lord.
Matt Hatner
So okay, you read the heading that says Elijah. There it is. Widow's son. But we haven't even got to that yet. So are we in verse 17?
Top Lobster
That's it.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, guys, we can see the YouTube chat and the Patreon chat and we're not shutting it off from the pores. You guys get to watch the whole episode. We didn't want that to happen.
Top Lobster
Well, you have to watch it now.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Is for the pores too.
Top Lobster
You've got to watch it now because it will be taken down after this episode is done. Yeah, to edit and then re release.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But you guys can watch live.
Top Lobster
We're gonna do a thumbnail. We're gonna have descriptions and things like that. Really?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Whoa, Nancy, what are you doing a noise for?
Matt Hatner
Oh, there's not really one. But she thought there was. I said there was. I just checked rumble and chuck 8.
Top Lobster
Wait. Blapping or Guamin.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Is he blapping or Guaman?
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Just try to relax.
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Matt Hatner
I think it's Guaman.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay. All right.
Matt Hatner
He donated $500. What?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's.
Top Lobster
That's Guaman.
Matt Hatner
He did.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Dude. That's a big Guam, dude.
Top Lobster
Wait a second.
Matt Hatner
Are you checking?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm gonna go. I'm checking right now.
Matt Hatner
Nancy's just messing with us.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No. Oh, my God. Chuck h. With the $500 donation. Gets better each time. Unbelievable.
Matt Hatner
Gets better.
Top Lobster
Don't put that money there. They're going to take. Rumble is going to take that and they suck.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, don't put the money wherever you want. Just not in the pocket of blue letter bible. Thank you, Chuck. Unbelievable. That is incredible.
Top Lobster
That's not nice. Jake watches.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We should get something for the studio with that money. We should do something in here. That's a. That's a good. Yeah, yeah. We could do something full size Christmas.
Matt Hatner
Full size Christmas tree ever going to happen, dude?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Chuck, let us know if that's a Christmas tree fund.
Matt Hatner
What if it's finger slipped?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What if his finger slip. Chuck, let us know if your finger slip will refund you the money.
Top Lobster
Yeah, please. And it came to pass after these things. Wow. I'm hyped.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's crazy.
Top Lobster
Son of the woman, the mistress of the house, fell sick. And his sickness was so sore that there was no breath left in him. Damn.
Matt Hatner
He died.
Top Lobster
He died, bro. And she said unto Elijah, what have I to do with thee? Oh, thou man of God, Art thou come unto me to call my sin to remembrance and to slay my son?
Matt Hatner
Heavy. What did this chick do, bro? Yeah, like, what did she do that she assumed that this man of God knew her soul, like, knew her secrets? She did something so bad that she's got kind of hidden in her conscience, which maybe this relates to some of the homies in the chat, too. It probably does. This thing from the past that's like so awful inside of her, she, like, we don't have any context that they've ever talked about this before. She says, dude, do you know this crazy I've done in my past? And that's why you came to kill my son?
Top Lobster
Well, so do you think this is immediately after, like, they. They eat for a bunch of days and then boom.
Matt Hatner
Yeah, they're living, they're doing their thing. This is carrying on.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So she's like, this is suspicious.
Matt Hatner
And then all of a sudden, the son dies and she. Like, I said, dude, like, these guys, people know this is a man of God. He just carries this presence about him. Right. It's a spirit of terror, if you will. Didn't somebody say he's like a terrorist? Yeah, I heard a sermon, actually preached, where they talked about the spirit of terror and that, like, some of these dudes just carry a heavy presence with them. I mean, even Jesus, the disciples were like, I'm not asking him. You ask him.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, yeah.
Matt Hatner
What are you guys talking about? The bread, dude, I'm not asking him.
Top Lobster
You ask them or they ask their mom, like, ask.
Matt Hatner
They're just kind of. Yeah, they're just kind of. I don't know. It's like Samuel, when he comes into town and they say, whoa, whoa. Do you come in peace? Like, they're. They're afraid of them. They're not like, oh, this is a cute guy with a sideways hair doing ripped jeans, not from working, but he bottom Ripped and like, he gives cute little sermons on Sunday.
Top Lobster
Well, David like people when they approach. David, I guess this is early.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Shout out to Chuck. He says, I love you guys. No homo. A big homo. He says, I can't send in stream yard. So I used a rant. Use it for whatever you need. Unbelievable. You had an opportunity to totally redact.
Top Lobster
The only reason we really appreciate it. The only reason I said that is because I think. I think they take a percentage of it anyway.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Take a percentage of it. But I mean, still, it's a good chunk of cash. We could do something really cool.
Matt Hatner
That's so cool, man.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We have to start flesh.
Top Lobster
I'm gonna buy the 500 pastinos. I don't know how much.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
500 pastinos. Let's go.
Matt Hatner
We're gonna, like, get more cool stuff, right? Like, cool cameras and lights.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, we have a whole library to turn into a studio as well.
Top Lobster
Yeah, that's halfway to another camera, actually. Yeah, let's do that.
Matt Hatner
Thanks, dude.
Top Lobster
Thank you. That's great.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Chuck is the man.
Top Lobster
Okay. All right. Let. We'll continue reading. Were we reading or was I saying.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You were saying something offensive?
Matt Hatner
No, I don't think it was offensive, man. I think it was just like we were talking about. She says in the King James, did you come to call my sin to remembrance and to kill my son because of, like, that seems like.
Top Lobster
Because.
Matt Hatner
Because of her previous sin.
Top Lobster
I was saying, like, people, like, I think that they recognize something was different about David. Like, David as well, after he's anointed, they, like. I don't know, they must carry, like, a certain thing, an intimidation factor with them because they have, like, this heaviness of. Of God.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't know.
Top Lobster
What. Do you. Do you think that that's correct? Like, yeah.
Matt Hatner
No, dude, I just think a man of God carries a presence, bro. I think that, like, even sometimes, like, a man of God comes in the room and people stop saying cuss words or whatever conversation they were having that was really inappropriate. They kind of tone it down a little bit.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And the guy didn't say, not us.
Matt Hatner
He just walked in the room.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, but other people, we fail to realize.
Top Lobster
I know. Yeah.
Matt Hatner
No, it's all good.
Top Lobster
No, we should do that.
Matt Hatner
So down on yourself. You guys are great. You guys are on the path. It's just like when the chick was like, are they Christians? And I was like, maybe. It's complicated. It's complicated.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
Matt Hatner
The lady of Florida Institute literally said.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That you make up a lot of stories about, like, these people that you meet out in the wild.
Matt Hatner
That was 100. A story that happened this morning right.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
After I said true.
Top Lobster
Yeah, but you say that to everybody.
Matt Hatner
So I called you on speakerphone in the office.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Is that true?
Top Lobster
Oh, that's why. She was like, they're not Christians.
Matt Hatner
The way you laughed was like a. Like. I don't want to say evil. Like a cackle vibe. She was just like.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
The way.
Top Lobster
The way you approached it was very funny. All right, here we go. All right.
Matt Hatner
Well, no, I was like, dude, I don't want to ruin your day. Like, I can't do the show because I have to wear glasses.
Top Lobster
Unforeseen circumstances. I'm completely blind right now. But you read for me.
Matt Hatner
You read for my show. That means a lot to me.
Top Lobster
Whoops.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
They blind.
Matt Hatner
Like, that made us, like, way tighter when you did that, dude.
Top Lobster
Like what?
Matt Hatner
Yeah, it made us way tighter, bro. People don't read my notes. Like, you had to, like, read my notes, dude. Big thing, man.
Top Lobster
Not great. Not great, not great. Type it out next time. You got a MacBook?
Matt Hatner
I'll get the Raven next time.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I can't read. Barely read. Don't do that.
Top Lobster
And she said unto Elijah, what have I done to thee? So the next verse. And he said to her, he said to her, give me thy son. And he took him out of her bosom and carried him up, up into a loft where he abode and laid him upon his own bed.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He's kind of like, give him here.
Matt Hatner
Give him here.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Just give me the gift. Just give me here.
Matt Hatner
Are you making a joke out of this? This is like.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, I'm just. I'm just trying to imagine. I get.
Matt Hatner
When I read the child and takes him up and puts him on the bed. Yeah. Yeah.
Top Lobster
I'm just trying to imagine what type of dude Elijah was. Because, like, rough, bro. He's heavy, dude. Yeah, he's. I feel like if you're listening to God, you can't be listening to people so much.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And you've also been drinking from a brook. But I don't even.
Top Lobster
I don't mean that in the way of, like, you do not watch the.
Matt Hatner
Exact way I'm saying.
Top Lobster
No, I'm very.
Matt Hatner
You guys are very moved by reactions of people, and you're really touching on something here. Like, your whole thing is like, you're on the tweeter, and then you do the thing, and then somebody reacts to it, and then you do the thing. I got.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's not a difficult word to pronounce.
Top Lobster
Yeah, but I like the Tweeting. And it's even more disrespectful since now it's called X.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's true.
Matt Hatner
Whatever I'm saying. And then your whole thing is based on the reactions of people, but you're on to something, man. Like, the man of God. He doesn't care the reactions of the people. He's like, yo, I'm here to preach the gospel. Do whatever you want with it. That's between you and God. But I'm just a faithful witness and testifier of the truth. But whatever your reaction is, that's up to you.
Top Lobster
He probably didn't hear half of. Because, like, it's one verse, but it's probably hysterical.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What do you mean?
Top Lobster
I mean, the girl is probably hysterical.
Matt Hatner
Yes.
Top Lobster
And he's just like, just give me the kid, because I'm not listening to you. I'm listening. Like, God is talking or doing something or he's focused.
Matt Hatner
I love when you do this, dude. Yes.
Top Lobster
Yeah. Because this dude was intense. Is the kind of dude that kills a bunch of. All right, well, we'll get to that. I like this guy. All right. Yes. And he cried unto the Lord and said, o Lord, my God, hast thou also brought evil upon this widow with whom I sojourn by slaying her? So what does that mean?
Matt Hatner
He loves her, bro. He's like, lord, you sent me with this woman or son, and I've come to love this family. I'm like, part of this family. Family. And now you've taken out her son. Like, Lord, please. And it's almost like. It's almost like he's confused. Right. If we can be honest, he's saying, what's going on here? Like, why is this happening? Which I. Which I love that I think it's great to. To, like, take that up with the Lord. If you're confused, like, say it to him. I know you guys get offended at the way I pray or whatever, but you have to be raw with the Lord. You have to worry and raw with the Lord and say exactly what you're thinking because he already knows it, and you have to take it up with him. Like, this thing I'm going through. Lord, what is this? What is going on?
Top Lobster
Matt's prayer was weird because.
Matt Hatner
Not weird. It's how I talk.
Top Lobster
That's why it was weird.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Swearing a lot. That's how I pray, too.
Matt Hatner
Swearing and cursing is different than saying cuss words.
Top Lobster
No, it wasn't.
Matt Hatner
Stop swearing and cursing.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, that was it. Because I didn't know before we linked up. With him. I had no idea he swore this much. And if I would have known that, I'd have been like, can we have swearing again?
Matt Hatner
Swearing is saying, like, I swear to God.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay.
Top Lobster
That's different than saying, no, David's missing it. Because David hasn't been around completely missing it. That pray. Like, when people pray.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay.
Top Lobster
In the room. That's why, like, we were at the water place, they go like, shamalahaya. No, I was saying pray, and you were like, I don't know how to pray. And then I. So I prayed, and then it was like I was like, I don't really know how to pray either. But when Matt prayed, it's like you were talking to someone else that was here.
Matt Hatner
Yeah.
Top Lobster
And I was like, yeah, but that's.
Matt Hatner
Like, the definition of prayer. Like, what?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, right.
Top Lobster
But that doesn't happen. You can't do it right.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Solo. Like, if I'm by myself.
Top Lobster
But that doesn't. Like, historically, it doesn't happen. They go, father God. As if, like, we're sending, like, an arrow.
Matt Hatner
No, no, no. That's weird. He's already with you. He's been with you your whole life, dude. Right. Like, your whole life.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Because if he's chilling there, he's like, why are you talking about me? Like, I'm not in the room.
Matt Hatner
Yeah, that. Yeah. I don't like that. See, I love your insights in the.
Top Lobster
Room, but not in the room.
Matt Hatner
Yeah. Yeah. That's not. He's there. He's with you. Talk to him just like you're talking to the creator of the universe because to what you're doing. And he says, I know my sheep, and my sheep know my voice. In other words, he speaks their language. It's like he talks to people in Chinese. He talks to people in Spanish. He talks to people in all these other languages because he talks to you how you hear and how you talk. So that's how you talk to him. It's very Chinese. It's very plain. And that's what Elijah's doing. He's saying, God, what is going on? Like, on a real level, God, like, what is happening?
Top Lobster
Yeah. So. So he doesn't even know. He's like, damn, this kid died. Like, did I do this?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It also seems like her kid is super little.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like, just based off of, you know, holding him in the bosom. And now he's holding this kid up in the air. Like, unless Elijah's, like, a big dude like this.
Top Lobster
So do you think him asking if he brought evil upon the widow by slaying her son. Do you think that that's like a sin on Elijah's part? Or is he being facetious? Or is he.
Matt Hatner
What now? What's the question?
Top Lobster
He said, why has. Has thou also brought evil upon the widow with whom I see? He's like, did you bring the evil? Like, shouldn't he know that that's not really what God does?
Matt Hatner
What do you mean? God doesn't kill people.
Top Lobster
He doesn't. He doesn't bring evil. He allows things, bro. What, God doesn't. God brings evil, bro.
Matt Hatner
So David sins with Bathsheba, God strikes the child sick and the child dies seven days later. You call that whatever you want? I mean, if you. If. I mean, we have to say evil in quotes. God flooded the entire planet, bro. Like, God killed all the firstborn in Egypt.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Too fast, Trevor. Too fast.
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Shh.
Matt Hatner
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Top Lobster
The angel did. And God just said, all right, you do it. He allowed it. Did he do that?
Matt Hatner
I mean, if that's your doctrine, that's fine. But in David, it's very clear. God struck the child sick and the child died seven days later. And never forget, God is love. It's not like God is love, but he did that. No, no, no. God is love. So you have to read the scripture to find out who God is to understand what love is.
Top Lobster
So check this out.
Matt Hatner
You have to do that. Because if your understanding of love is like a Boyz II Men song and a slow dance and like a heart shaped box of chocolate and some flowers, then you're going to completely misunderstand God, and you're going to completely misunderstand everything.
Top Lobster
My. My friend, Patrick. Best friend from New York. Not you, David. My. My friend.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Whatever, dude. He.
Top Lobster
He just messaged me and I read it before he started. He said, have you ever re read mere Christianity by C.S. lewis? He's listening to the audiobook. He was talking about God being love, and he stated that a lot of people are now saying that love is God, therefore leading to them to believe whatever.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Ha.
Top Lobster
Like, wherever love happens, occurs, it's godly. So it's like the inverse of.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, that's when they go, like, if we do butt stuff, the love is love.
Matt Hatner
You have to. If God is love, that's the clearest.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
To me that that's not the case.
Matt Hatner
Yeah. Read the entirety of scripture to find out who God is, and then you'll understand what love is and don't do the opposite.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That was like the first big eye opening thing to me to be like, well, what is love exactly? Because it is. The whole LGBTQ community goes like, love is love, so let it. And I'm like, wait a second, that's something funny here.
Matt Hatner
But the church. I'm not. I'm not so concerned with the LGBTQ elemental p doing that. I'm talking about when the chur misses it too many church doesn't understand this word love, then we're in. Then we're in a problem. Just like they don't understand the word grace or faith or like any of these words. We've just butchered the definitions. And then everything's mangled, right? Everything's mangled.
Top Lobster
Okay. All right, let's keep. Let's keep going, I guess.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Can we please continue reading?
Top Lobster
All right. And he stretched himself upon the child three times and cried unto the Lord and said, oh, Lord, my God, I pray thee, let this child's soul come into him again.
Matt Hatner
Dang.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He said it three times.
Top Lobster
Yeah. Like why three times?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Interesting.
Top Lobster
And the Lord heard the voice of Elijah and the soul, the child came into him again and he revived. Dang.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So this is one of the instances in the Bible of like a. An actual miraculous resurrection.
Top Lobster
Yeah, it's like, what. What counts as, well, brought back to.
Matt Hatner
Life isn't the same as resurrection. Right. Like, when we're resurrected, we're going to have a resurrection body. We're gonna have a resurrected body, an eternal body.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay.
Matt Hatner
These guys just got brought back to life in their natural flesh. So it's not the same as the resurrection.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Are you saying it's not as cool?
Top Lobster
Are they still under? See, so this is why Elijah might not be Jewish in a sense, because this, they. They would be under the law of Moses by this time, touching the dead.
Matt Hatner
Didn't we talk about this the other day? Yeah, yeah.
Top Lobster
And he didn't care.
Matt Hatner
But, I mean, yeah, he's like, whatever.
Top Lobster
Yeah. And the three times is interesting. I don't know what that means. Like, the first time you look, he's, like, still dead.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, this is something you need to know about Top Lobster. And I told him I wouldn't tell anybody. This. This is true about him. If he doesn't want to do it.
Top Lobster
Oh, this is true.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
This is true. If he doesn't want to do it. And this is for you to have. If he doesn't want to do with it and you really want him to do it, he'll say no. The first time. If you ask him three times consecutively, for some reason, he time, it's like a weird thing, and it works every time.
Matt Hatner
And that's. If I could have my own show. That's kind of exactly how it went down.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, I remember, because when you first said it, he looked at you, he went like this.
Matt Hatner
Yeah, he does have.
Top Lobster
And what would you talk about?
Matt Hatner
Did you drink the whole drink?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's really good.
Top Lobster
It's crazy. What is this?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
She didn't tell me what this one was.
Matt Hatner
Should we get her back in here?
Top Lobster
We need a. We need, like, a. Like, a bell. All right, I guess we'll keep reading. Please don't use the three thing because that's. That's an exploitation sparingly. Yeah. And Elijah took the child and brought him down out of the chambers and into the house and delivered him unto his mother. And Elijah said, see, thy son liveth just like that. And the woman said to Elijah, now, by this I know that thou art a man of God and that the word of the Lord is the word of the Lord in thy mouth is true.
Matt Hatner
Heavy statement. Heavy statement. Sometimes miracles, the miraculous is an announcement of the kingdom of God. Right? She says, by this, like, by you bringing my son back to life, like, I know you're a man of God. Sometimes it goes down that way.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
She goes, no doubt, dog.
Top Lobster
Yeah, no doubt. You fed us and all that stuff for a bunch of days. But this.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
She has no idea, by the way, that, like, before he came and. And asked God to, you know, bring this child soul back into his life, that he was, like, drinking from a brook and eating raven meat and all this crazy stuff. And then he came out of the bramble, and it was kind of like your child.
Top Lobster
This is the hitch. The hitchhiker thing that we talked about with Matt, where it's like, I'm not picking up any damn hitchhikers, and I'm still not going to. Right But.
Matt Hatner
But you might.
Top Lobster
No, definitely not. No, no, not.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
There's just no way.
Top Lobster
In my house.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Are you kidding me?
Top Lobster
No, it's. It's just too risky now. Don't you think? But then, like, how many blessings are you missing out on or.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's true, but the last thing I need is to pick up some dude and he just blaps me up, blabs me up, blasts my whole family up to get out of here. I'm not doing that.
Top Lobster
Yeah, I know. No, I don't know, man. Matt's. Matt's lost.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Are you all right, dude?
Top Lobster
He just.
Matt Hatner
Ray Charles out as a relative term, so.
Top Lobster
Well, what are we.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right, let's continue reading that.
Matt Hatner
Let's go.
Top Lobster
I guess he disagrees with that. He likes the hitchhiker thing. I'm just not gonna do it.
Matt Hatner
No, No.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I haven't picked up a hitchhiker once, and that is unsurprising.
Matt Hatner
In Vegas.
Top Lobster
That's why.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Dude, that's a bad place. The homeless in Vegas are, like, a real different type of.
Top Lobster
Nancy, what did you do with this body?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Important question. Good question.
Matt Hatner
It was not in Vegas, but it was.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Where was it?
Matt Hatner
It wasn't. It was in a desert, though.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You picked up a hitchhiker in a desert, man.
Matt Hatner
Why does she have, like, Jim Morrison from the Doors vibes, man? She's like, yeah, I was in the desert.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Nancy came out of Laurel Canyon. Nancy's actually our handler. The feds had to assign a handler to us, and they. They assigned Nancy to us. Okay, it's fine.
Matt Hatner
And it came to pass after many days. Dude, I can read, man.
Top Lobster
It's a miracle. It's a miracle.
Matt Hatner
I mean, it's easier with the shades, but I got.
Top Lobster
Keep the glass.
Matt Hatner
And it came to pass after many d. That the word of the Lord came to Elijah in the third year. So it looks like we got three years have gone on.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So the kid's been brought back to life, and then he just hangs out for three. Is he still with her?
Matt Hatner
In James, it says it was three and a half years, which is what this is saying in the third year because James makes some references to Elijah. But in the third year, God says, go show thyself unto Ahab, and I'll send rain upon the earth. So back to Leonard Ravenhill. When he talks about this, man, he's just saying, like, it's important that you know when God's telling you, go hide yourself, and when he's telling you, go show yourself.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So now he's saying, like, show very important. And be like, yo, what up, Ahab? God's about to make it rain.
Matt Hatner
Yeah, dude. For three and a half years, it looks like God had to deal with Elijah in quiet and in seclusion and in a, like, in a cave with ravens feeding them. And then like hiding out with a widow and her son. And we don't know exactly what happened all these days, but it looks like the Lord was maybe training him for this next stage of the journey. So he had to get him alone to do that. And I think that's consistent because we talked about that with Moses. He was on the backside of the desert for 40 years before he goes in and rescues Israel before the burning bush experience. He's been on the backside of the desert in seclusion for 40 years, bro. Paul, he goes into Arabia three years after he gets converted, dude. He gets knocked off the horse or he's walking, I don't know, he gets dropped to the ground. The Lord shows himself to Paul and then in the Galatian letter, he says that for three years he's in Arabia. Right? So he's just in, teaching him stuff, dealing with him, working on his character, working on whatever, so that he's prepared for the next stage of the journey.
Top Lobster
That's. It is crazy. Sometimes I look at my son and I'm like, this little guy knows. He knows nothing. Like, he like literally knows nothing.
Matt Hatner
That dude could choke out probably 90 of customers.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He knows how to choke.
Matt Hatner
What I mean is that solid jujitsu guy.
Top Lobster
No, he's. But he's like a very smart kid for his age. Like, very wise. Wise for his age. But I look at him, I'm like, man, he's gonna have to, for like, lack of better words, he's gonna have to like die and regrow five or six times, maybe even 10 times, just to be where I'm sort of at now.
Matt Hatner
That's why you're reading the Bible now? Yeah.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You know what's crazy about that kid?
Top Lobster
Well, maybe you fast track him, but I don't know.
Matt Hatner
That's why you're reading in the Bible.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Why are you doing. I don't know.
Top Lobster
He's looking at me. Yeah, yeah, but still we talking about.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We go to the 501C3 thing.
Matt Hatner
That's not enough. Of course that's not. No. You can't just shuck your duty to the 501C3 system. You have to be reading duty and praying with them, bro. Especially when they're little. So that, that's, that's their concept of reality.
Top Lobster
Yeah, but Even so, there's still so much that you've got to learn. Just like. Like that. You just cannot teach people.
Matt Hatner
Can't fast track it. Amen.
Top Lobster
And you can't. Yeah, I can't explain to him situations. I'm like, man, yeah. Yeah, good luck.
Matt Hatner
It's true. It's true, man.
Top Lobster
Yeah. All right, let's. Let's keep going.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Duty.
Top Lobster
And Elijah went to show himself unto Ahab, and there was a sore. There was a sore famine in Samaria.
Matt Hatner
So there's still famine.
Top Lobster
Yeah. In the land Ahab called Obadiah, which was the governor of his house. Now, Obadiah feared the Lord greatly.
Matt Hatner
Okay, so Obadiah is the governor in the house of King Ahab. Right. So he's like a governmental official. Right.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So what, Elijah shows up and then he's like, Obadiah.
Matt Hatner
Hold on, hold on. You're, like, jumping ahead. We're just trying to lay it down that Ahab is the king.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
Matt Hatner
And Obadiah, which is the governor in his house, he's a guy who rules in his house. But just keep in mind, even though Ahab's wicked, Obadiah fears the Lord greatly.
Top Lobster
Yeah. Fears the Lord greatly. Because it was so when Jezebel cut off the prophets of the Lord, that Obadiah took an hundred prophets, and he hid them by 50 in a cave and fed them with bread and water.
Matt Hatner
This dude's like a raven.
Top Lobster
Yeah, no meat.
Matt Hatner
Okay, hold on. I'll explain it.
Top Lobster
Fine.
Matt Hatner
So Ahab is wicked. His wife Jezebel, who's referenced in verse four, she's wicked too. Obadiah is a man of God who lives in that house. What's wrong with this guy, dude?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's what it is, right? Can I just say.
Matt Hatner
Well, no, I'm not disagreeing with that.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay.
Matt Hatner
All right. That's not typically how you. You would, like, just blap that out like that. No, he does that. He just blabs out stuff. And then people are like, bro, I'm.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Adding context for the people who might not know that for means.
Top Lobster
Because it's crazy. How so? I was at my wife's job. My wife.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
My wife.
Top Lobster
Yesterday. And. And one of her co workers. I'm. I'm doing work. I'm. I'm finishing the. The artwork for. For your. Your piece. And she's, like, looking at me, and I'm like. And I'm like, hi. Because now, like, I'm sitting at a desk. I don't belong. I'm like, how you doing? And she goes, I watched the show. And I go, oh, cool. Her name is Jen. Shout out to Jen.
Matt Hatner
That's not creepy, the way she said that.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, she's at a job. She has to whisper it.
Top Lobster
She's, like, real excited to tell me about it.
Matt Hatner
Oh, I'm like that too, with a lot of people.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, dude, you're so loud all the time.
Top Lobster
Do you know the Nephilim desk? So then she goes. She goes, I gotta tell you something. I was like, oh, God. Okay.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What think you do?
Top Lobster
What is it? And she goes, I woke up this morning and I just kept saying blap in Raven's voice.
Matt Hatner
That's so embarrassing.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
In my voice. What does my voice sound like?
Top Lobster
Like, that very. She also did say very appropriate with, like, the.
Matt Hatner
Just blurting things out, you know, just Jezebel.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Everybody knows Jezebel's a hoe.
Top Lobster
I had a girlfriend named Jezebel, and she was very nice.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's kind of unfortunate you would name your daughter Jezebel.
Top Lobster
I didn't name her.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, I'm not saying you. I'm saying, like, her parents, like. Like, you know the content.
Matt Hatner
This is what Obadiah did, bro. So he lives in that wicked and evil household, and Jezebel is going to kill off all the true prophets of God. Obadiah finds out about this scheme, and he takes a hundred of me, hides 50 in one cave and 50 in another. Remember, this is not a fairy tale.
Top Lobster
Why are women always the problem?
Matt Hatner
I mean, it's true, dude. Okay, I don't. I don't want to touch on a topic that you should search out in the scripture, but you're just going to get killed if you just. Just, like, do this out loud like this. We should examine this concept through scripture.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Let him kill us.
Matt Hatner
But so Obadiah, he's a man of God and he's courageous. He's fearless, man. So he's willing to, like, put his life on the line to go hide a hundred true prophets and feed them, keep them alive, man, so Jezebel doesn't kill him. Like, bro, we don't know anything about this. This is why sometimes, like, the rebellion in. What's the movie? Star Wars. Yeah, like the Star Wars. I'm just saying there's, like, this rebellion and they're hiding out. It's kind of like this Star Wars. Stop doing that.
Top Lobster
We can do it. I mean, for real. Honestly, I don't know anything about Star Wars.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And.
Matt Hatner
And I'm just saying, walkers. It's the rebellion, bro. They're, like, hiding out.
Top Lobster
Any other analogy besides star. Like, we.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We.
Top Lobster
We've talked about the Dark Tower series.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We've talked about the Rings, Lord of the Rings.
Matt Hatner
What's another story or movie or show where, like, they're hiding out and they're wanted dead or alive?
Top Lobster
That's a Bon Jovi.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's like, literally. Yeah, it's about.
Top Lobster
Please continue. But I get it.
Matt Hatner
So. So Ahab said to Obadiah, go into the.
Top Lobster
I need that 500.
Matt Hatner
So. So this would be like a guy. I don't know it.
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In the administration. That's one of these titles that's like a big shot within the cabinet. I don't know which one it would be, but that's what Obadiah is like. So Ahab says to Obadiah, go into the land and all the fountains of water, and unto all the brooks peradventure we may find grass to save the horses and mules alive that we lose, not all the beasts. So this is just like, straight up, like, he's like, hey, your job today is to go find water. It's like, oh, what about the stuff we need to do on the news? And what about the stuff we got going on with China? Aren't we working on a deal right now? What about this stuff to do over here with Canada? No, no, bro. Your job is to go find water so that all of the animals don't die.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Can I. Can we rewind a little? Because I'm lacking some context here. Why is this hoe killing all these people? The prophets of God? Like, what is there? What is prompted?
Matt Hatner
It's.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Good question.
Matt Hatner
Good.
Top Lobster
It's probably.
Matt Hatner
We probably should have maybe did a better backdrop on the story, but we didn't because it's been a little while.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Unless I missed something, it's just like, in this story so far, just.
Matt Hatner
No, I mean, you're kind of nailing it with your commentary, though. You're missing it, but you're. But you're right on with your commentary about her.
Top Lobster
Isn't this, like, with Saul's wife also doing, like, just when God is distant from. Oh, God doesn't. I guess. What does he do to Saul? What's the correct term? He kind of like. Like, abandons him. Well, no, he's like. He's like, you're not anointed. You're done.
Matt Hatner
Yeah.
Top Lobster
And then his wife kind of like, takes it on her own means to try to figure so. And it seems like this is what happens. So, like, God's clearly abandoned Ahab after he didn't listen to Elijah or Elijah just told him and then. Was there any way for him to change that?
Matt Hatner
No, no. All we're saying is that we're. Because we're still talking about Jezebel and why she is the way she is.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Because why is she killing these.
Matt Hatner
This is Zidonian, bro. They're worshiping false gods. And there's a real war going on that's in the unseen realm that's playing out in the natural realm. And she's wanting to kill off the true prophets of God. That's what's happening. Ahab was the most wicked of all the kings of Israel, is what the scripture says about him. And he marries this chick who's not part of Israel, who's not part of the kingdom of God. Like, she's distinctly from some other culture with asherah poles and all of the crazy stuff and worshiping all these false gods.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Gods.
Matt Hatner
And so they hate the true men of God. And she's even turned the whole nation, as we're going to find out, like, this whole story. That's what this whole story is, dude, is that they have convinced all of Israel to start worshiping baal. So the entire church of that day is now worshiping baal to the point where Elijah says, hey, y', all can BAAL or you can worship God, but you can't worship both. And that's this war that's always going on in this story.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So she's a BAAL worshiping her.
Matt Hatner
Know, I'm not against that statement. I mean, it's kind of accurate.
Top Lobster
Is kind of what's happening in America right now. I mean, they just did some weird ceremony for a Hindu. The Hindu religion, where it's like, you know, like some of the Vedic gods in the White House. And I'm like, hey, man.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What?
Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, you know, J.D. vance's wife is indie. There's, like, a lot it says strange Indian influence, but, like, there's Donald Trump. He's holding, like, one of their weird, like, pitched forks or whatever it is, and they're. They're doing. What's. What's that? It's called Diwali, I think. Their holiday.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh. Oh.
Top Lobster
And they're like, we celebrate Diwali. And I was like, yo, dude, you could serve bail or you could serve God, but you can't do both.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
And I'm not saying that politics and, like. Like, religion should mix, but I'm like, you got to choose, you know?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But you're gonna get to watch how that plays out.
Top Lobster
Yeah, you can't do that. And it's gonna be nasty.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We know how that go.
Top Lobster
Yeah, we're gonna. The language. This is a Christian.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We know how that stuff goes.
Matt Hatner
Okay with that. That's not swearing or cursing. That's just saying cuss words.
Top Lobster
Words. Okay, wait, so.
Matt Hatner
Okay, so Ahab said to Obadiah, go into the land, into all the fountains of water, and unto all brooks per adventure, we may find grass to save the horses and mules alive, that we lose not all the beast. So they divided the land between them to pass throughout. Ahab went one way by himself, and Obadiah went another way by himself. Like, dude, it's so bad in the land. The king himself and, like, one of his right hand guys, they're going through all the land just to find water. That's the context.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, okay.
Matt Hatner
And as Obadiah was in the way, behold, Elijah met him, and he knew him, and fell on his face and said, are you that my Lord Elijah? That's what I'm saying, bro. It was like. It wasn't like there was pictures of him on Twitter or Instagram or on any of the things where they would.
Top Lobster
Have known that it's him.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Are you that Elijah?
Matt Hatner
Yeah, bro. Like, there's no pictures, but, like that. I know it's you.
Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Sick.
Matt Hatner
You're that Elijah, right? And he answered him, I am. Go tell thy Lord. Behold, Elijah is here. And Obadiah says back to him, what have I sinned? That you would deliver thy servant into the hand of Ahab to slay me as the Lord thy God lives. There is no nation or kingdom where my Lord has not sent to seek thee.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Wait, so Obadiah is.
Matt Hatner
Is a true man of God, and he's saying, no, if I go tell Ahab, he's going to kill me, find you. He's going to kill me because we haven't read it yet. But he's saying, because you're not going to be here, like, nobody can find you. Because there's wanted signs that say dead or alive. Because in verse 10, it says there is no nation or kingdom where Ahab hasn't sent to seek you. Damn, this dude's wanted, bro.
Top Lobster
And he's the prophet of God.
Matt Hatner
Wanted. Well, there's another prophet, at least one in this day, too. I mean, he's not the only. But he's this dude moving in power, bro.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And so he's. He's even calling himself his servant, even though he's like, yes, the governor of. Of Ahab's home. He's like, I'm.
Matt Hatner
Great point.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's wild.
Matt Hatner
He's like, in the natural realm, I'm a big shot. But here, like, that doesn't mean anything, dude. Like, you're the man and I'm your servant. So there's no nation or kingdom where, my Lord. So not just within Israel. To all the nations and kingdoms, Ahab has sent out these wanted dead or.
Top Lobster
Alive posters trying to kill this dude.
Matt Hatner
And when they said he's not there. So after he sent all those posters around and when they said he's not there, he took an oath of the kingdom and nation that they found the not. He made him take an oath that they weren't like, hiding Elijah. This is just on another level, dude. They want this guy dead. And now you say, go tell the. Go tell Ahab. Behold, Elijah is here. And it shall come to pass as soon as I am gone from thee, that the spirit of the Lord shall carry thee where I know not. And so when I come and tell Ahab and he cannot find you, he shall slay me. But I, thy servant, fear the Lord from my youth.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Ahab sucks, dude. It's like, what if the guy was telling you the truth just because you can't find him afterwards? Like, you wouldn't consider, like, maybe Elijah was like, maybe he moved.
Top Lobster
Maybe he moved.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Maybe he didn't stand still.
Matt Hatner
But you guys aren't like a little concernicus about this phrase that the spirit of the Lord shall carry thee where I know not.
Top Lobster
Not.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, the. The Holy Spirit to move elsewhere.
Top Lobster
He's. He's.
Matt Hatner
He's probably grab him and put him somewhere else.
Top Lobster
There were probably stories about, like, like when people are looking. If you're looking for a dude across nations and you can't find them, there's probably a Myth that's like, yo, dude, God hit him. And it's like, I mean, it's. It's an accurate myth, but they're probably these rumors like, yo, you're not gonna find them.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And you would have to. Like, not that you would have to do this, but it makes sense that they'd be like, yo, if we go there and he's not there, I'm gonna kill you. And the reason that you would do that is because if. If people were just lying and wasting your time, there had better be a big consequence of that or else, because you're walking everywhere. You're riding by horseback, right? So it's taking a long ass time to get everywhere.
Matt Hatner
Can you pull up Acts chapter eight?
Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah.
Matt Hatner
Because maybe it's just a myth.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Maybe it's just a myth.
Top Lobster
No, I'm saying, like, do you think that there wasn't a myth around the people saying, like, you know, Elijah was taken away by this Elijah. Like, who knows? There's probably a lot of stuff going on. They're talking about Elijah a of lot. Dude, dude was a celebrity.
Matt Hatner
All right. Okay. Eight. Starting in 26, is the story of Philip rolling up on this Ethiopian eunuch who's like, works for the queen of Ethiopia. Candace. He's reading the scroll of Isaiah 53. Actually, he's reading it out loud. And the Holy Spirit tells Philip to go join himself to that chariot and go explain this passage to this Ethiopian. Right? And I'm just going to pick up. He's reading, in Isaiah 53, he's reading about the humiliation and judgment of Christ at his first coming. Like, this was very confusing for a lot of people. The two comings of Jesus. The first time he came as the suffering servant. And that's what this Ethiopian. This Ethiopian is reading about. So in verse 34, the eunuch answered Philip and said, I pray thee, of whom speaks the prophet this, of himself or of some other man? Then Philip opened his mouth and began at the same scripture and preached to him, Jesus. And as they went on their way, they came into a certain water. And the eunuch said, see, here is water. What does hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, that's just an outward expression of an inward thing. It doesn't really matter that much.
Top Lobster
Wait, where are we?
Matt Hatner
Wait, it doesn't say that. That's why I'm trying to make sure you guys are paying attention.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, that's why. Well, now you confused Top. He's like, that's not here.
Top Lobster
Where are we? Yeah, it's in the different.
Matt Hatner
Okay, 8, 36.
Top Lobster
36.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You made him scroll.
Matt Hatner
Because you're saying, oh, why didn't you say that when I started reading?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, he said outward expression of an inward thing. And he was like, that's not here. And then he got all.
Matt Hatner
Exactly. Okay. He was tracking. Yeah.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And then you.
Top Lobster
Okay.
Matt Hatner
Because that's what some of your buddies say. Like, oh, yeah, baptism doesn't matter that much. Like, okay, well, let's just see in the scripture where they said, water baptism doesn't matter that much.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
By the way, I want to say shout out to G by Jonathan, who says, I wonder if we could buy them drinks. Imagine how horrifying a thing that would be if the audience could, like, somehow pay at the register to have drinks broke. The table would be covered in drinks, and we would be shaking by the end of it. There's no way.
Top Lobster
You don't have to drink them.
Matt Hatner
Going somewhere with this.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We can't. We can't waste it.
Matt Hatner
And as they went on their way, they came into a certain water. And the eunuch said, see, here is water. What does hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, let's wait for the next 501c3 ceremony. We can play some music and have a fog.
Top Lobster
What verse is that? I didn't see that one.
Matt Hatner
Exactly.
Top Lobster
What if we did set up, like, check this out, Matt, real quick.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, dude.
Top Lobster
We would be shaking a little a QR code where they could scan and it could pay directly to the shop. And then the drinks would be walked at. That would actually be.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, because they would. There would be an endless amount of drinks, and we would be dead. From you.
Top Lobster
I would be like, I'm built different.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't think you can handle that much caffeine, dog. We get you two drinks.
Matt Hatner
Okay, I. Okay. This is a big deal. Philip said, if you believe with all your heart, you may. It doesn't have to be the next church service. It doesn't have to be with a bunch of people around. It doesn't have to be with music and this little thing with the fog machine. So you're saying we can do this right here, right now. The only qualification is that there's water and that you believe with all your heart.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Is he like. Is that. Is he knocking me?
Matt Hatner
And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still. And they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch. And he baptized him. And when they were come up out of the water, the spirit of the Lord caught away Philip that the eunuch saw him no more and he went on his way rejoicing. But Philip was found in azotype and passing through. He preached into all the cities till he came to Caesarea.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So what did he got? Raptured?
Top Lobster
He got raptured. Yeah. This is what I'm trying to say.
Matt Hatner
You guys like, oh, the thing about Elijah, maybe it's a myth that he just got scooped up and taken away. No, maybe it's just like this.
Top Lobster
I didn't say that.
Matt Hatner
Just got scooped up by the spirit of the Lord and put somewhere he.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Doesn'T like when we.
Top Lobster
Like you're giving a bad interpretation.
Matt Hatner
It must have been known that like Ahab was like on the heels of Elijah and then poof, he's like taken somewhere else by the spirit of the Lord. Just like the spirit of the Lord did to Philip right here in Acts.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You and I are very stupid for even speculating on that. And be remorseful for having any thoughts.
Matt Hatner
I'm sorry if I misrepresented your opinion.
Top Lobster
I think that I'm right still. I think, I think that like there's a lot of people across different nations and they probably all see Elijah and his picture or they're looking for him and like they can't find this dude. Must have been this. Must have been that. There's probably so much going around, all misinformation, disinformation, stuff like that.
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Matt Hatner
Just try to relax, okay?
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Matt Hatner
The spirit of the Lord is scooping him up and taking him places potentially. And this isn't the one time. This is alluded to in this story like it's alluded to again in this story.
Top Lobster
Okay, so wait, so it's not a.
Matt Hatner
One time thing where people are like, oh, the spirit of the lord just takes Elijah and puts him in other places.
Top Lobster
But no, because God told him he's like, go to this river and drink here. So, like, it seems like Elijah went there and then the ravens fed him there and then he went, go to that old lady and he went there. Or the, the widow and he went there and he stood there.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's almost to say, you never know when they're gonna be inspired to move.
Top Lobster
He wasn't supernaturally move, but he was told to.
Matt Hatner
Okay.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Or is God just like. Like what? They're coming for you.
Top Lobster
Wait, wait. No, no. What did. Matt. Go ahead, Matt.
Matt Hatner
Okay. Spoiler alert. I wasn't going to do this, but we read a couple more chapters and whirlwind and chariots of fire come for Elijah and pick him up and take them away. And everybody that watches it says, let's go look for him. God just took him up in that whirlwind and put him somewhere else.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So this is something that's different than.
Matt Hatner
Them just thinking that like God said, hey, man, go with the ravens, go to the cave.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's interesting, because if that happened right now, we wouldn't be like, let's go find him. We'd be like, I don't know where that went and I have no idea that he's going to come back down and be anywhere.
Top Lobster
This is almost foreshadowing of what, what's going to happen to him. Like the people have an inclination that he will be.
Matt Hatner
It's just. Well, it's just like the thing that happens to him and he gets taken up in the whirlwind. It wasn't a one time deal. It was a one time deal that. That was the last one. And he's gone to heaven and didn't die.
Top Lobster
Oh, so you think that this happened to him a lot? Like the dude was just moving around.
Matt Hatner
I'm saying there's multiple references to it. There's this reference, then there's another reference, and then there's that story with Philip where I'm saying, like, hey, man, I like to interpret the Bible with the Bible. I don't like to be like, oh, what does National Geographic say about this? The Bible say about it? And so there is context for like the Lord doing this with people.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Shout out to share. Saved by Grace. She says, if you guys would quit interrupting and shut the hell up and listen. Just saying. It's hard to follow. I don't think that that's relevant to the conversation.
Matt Hatner
I love that she said that. The banter.
Top Lobster
The banter, yeah.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Is that the lady? Is that the lady who was like.
Matt Hatner
No, no, no, no, the lady that I'm talking about. Would you never, like, watch.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, older lady who.
Top Lobster
Well, listen, share. I understand that you're saved by Grace, but we have a successful podcast and it's based purely on banter.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, I want to ask questions. I mean, I asked. I don't know, things.
Matt Hatner
You know who gets the most offended when people say stuff like that?
Top Lobster
Me.
Matt Hatner
Jess.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, she just gets mad.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Matt Hatner
She's like, I don't like that. The only reason you're even allowed on that show is because they bring you on. Who do those people think they are to say. They can't interrupt you and say whatever they want?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
To be honest, a lot of the.
Matt Hatner
But I love when people say it.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Is not for the audience. It's for me to learn. You know, it's. I don't know. Things I learn on the show.
Top Lobster
Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, the. The banter. No banter is straight Bible.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We want no banter. Go and support straight Bible.
Top Lobster
I think I did a good job.
Matt Hatner
TNA is kind of cool, man.
Top Lobster
All right. Oh, yeah, I like that. Yeah, yeah.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That used to be a channel, didn't.
Top Lobster
Yeah, no, no, but that's. So we. We've given you that option.
Matt Hatner
He. That's a great point. He says, we have nds Bible for the banter. Straight Bible, no banter. Exactly.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But that's all right. No, she's raised. She doesn't want any.
Top Lobster
Share this and see, you've. You've instigated the banter, so you're actually working against yourself.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I think I did a great.
Top Lobster
There she goes.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
She's talking again. And we're gonna keep talking about it.
Top Lobster
I did a great job of not. Of not bantering.
Matt Hatner
Right, Matt?
Top Lobster
Matt said, read this, pull this up. I did that. I shut up.
Matt Hatner
I love this.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
She probably doesn't even know that there's a straight Bible that airs on Nephilim desk called Straight Bible every week.
Top Lobster
You could look at it.
Matt Hatner
Bohemian. It's not T and A. His name is T N, A. Yeah.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You know what's crazy with the hard end, Share? Saved by Grace has made us, like, now even, like, further elongate this process. And I just. I wish we can get back to the Bible. Cher, can we get back to the Bible, please? Matt, continue.
Matt Hatner
She says, okay, what verse are we in?
Top Lobster
We're good. We're back. I think we're in 1812. Let's see here.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We'll pull this out.
Matt Hatner
Yeah. And it shall come to pass as soon as I'm gone from thee, that the spirit of the Lord shall carry thee where I know not.
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Matt Hatner
And so when I am, come and tell Ahab he cannot find thee. He shall slay me. But I, thy servant, fear the Lord. From my youth, was it not told, my Lord, what I did when Jezebel slew the prophets of the Lord? How I hit a hundred men of the lord's prophets by 50 in a cave and fed them with bread and water? He says, elijah, I'm a real one, bro. Like, didn't you hear about me that we already read earlier in the chapter? Didn't you hear when I saved the real prophets? Why do you want me to die? He thinks, Ahab. He thinks that Elijah is, like, playing, setting him up.
Top Lobster
It's weird that he. He's bragging about he's 100, pleading for his life. No, but what he's bragging about is, like, I hit. If I. If I hit a hundred men, I'd be like, I hit 100 men. He's like, but I did it by 50 in a cave.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I split the cave system.
Top Lobster
Did you think about the.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
The logistics?
Matt Hatner
If they would have found one, at least the other ones would have still been safe.
Top Lobster
Smart.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
Should have found more caves.
Matt Hatner
Exactly, dude. No, that's what I'm saying. You guys like to make the jokes, but it's good inside, right? And now you say, go tell thy Lord. Behold, Elijah is here, and he'll slay me. And Elijah said, as the Lord of hosts lives before whom I stand. Oh, damn. What did Raven Hill used to say? If you stand before God, you'll never bow before man. That is such a statement, bro. And Elijah said, as the Lord of hosts lives before whom I stand, I will surely show myself unto him today. What a statement. Because people say, like, wow, where did Elijah get his power? Like, what's the secret with Elijah? He's Elijah. As the Lord of hosts lives before whom I stand, so he stands in the presence of God. Which is what? Which is what Gabriel refers to himself as. I'm Gabriel, who stands in the presence of God. Elijah's saying something like that, dude.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He's saying.
Matt Hatner
He's saying the Lord before whom I stand.
Top Lobster
Man, I thought you had to be Jewish to do that. Oh, yeah, I guess not.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Free of foreskin.
Top Lobster
Why did he have it?
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Matt Hatner
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Top Lobster
That's a whole nother thing. No, but that is a good. Do you think that he's distinctly capable of doing that? Or anyone? Anybody can do this. Access to God standing.
Matt Hatner
Yeah. Especially now. Jesus has created a path to where we boldly come before the throne of grace. Yeah. That's why it's so offensive to say that you pray to like Mary, who's not a virgin anymore. We're incredibly grateful that she was a virgin for the birth of Christ. But Jesus had brothers and sisters. So like this concept that like you pray to the Virgin Mary or the Queen of Heaven, which is always wicked in the Bible. If you just pull up Queen of heaven. That's not a good thing. That's not true.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's a great point.
Matt Hatner
So when people are like praying to so called Mary.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, yeah. Hold on a second. We did the standard coffee cam. What's that?
Matt Hatner
This is from Scott.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Scott. Wait, Scott says I just did something. Unbelievable.
Top Lobster
How did he do it?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Bring that one to top, because I just heard Scott.
Matt Hatner
His name's Sancho.
Top Lobster
No, that's.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
One of our best friends. Holy. What is that?
Matt Hatner
It's green Matcha Ops. People are asking to see the bubble pony.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Can you just show off the bubble pony?
Top Lobster
Can I ask really quick? Quickly though, how did he do that? He called in on the phone.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He called in on the phone, called the standard.
Top Lobster
It's getting a little invasive.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He called the standard Bible.
Top Lobster
What I was going to say is it's unsweet. So do you want. He'll be fine. Thank you.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, he doesn't need any more.
Matt Hatner
Did he tip?
Top Lobster
Thank you, guys.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Thank you guys. And thank you. Wow.
Matt Hatner
Wow.
Top Lobster
So that's a thing.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What a unique thing.
Top Lobster
It's a good idea.
Matt Hatner
It's your idea. Why are you still like your point?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, that was. That was good idea. That was g idea. I got to give credit where credit's due. He's the one that mentioned it.
Matt Hatner
Yeah.
Top Lobster
All right. We could make this more seamless. I like that idea.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's crazy.
Top Lobster
I like. And it's very nice too. I don't know.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Latown honey says sneaky Sneaky. Very sneaky, Scott. Very sneaky.
Top Lobster
Look at this.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It has. Try it. How is it? I want to know. I'm gonna try it. It looks wonderful. What a great. Like, it's a little hot.
Top Lobster
I don't like matcha, but I will drink it.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's good.
Matt Hatner
Matcha is really good for you too. Dude.
Top Lobster
Is this the stuff that gave David bloody dia.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So that's mate. Which gave me diarrhea for bloody. You know, it's a whole.
Top Lobster
It is good.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I. I don't think it was that. It was just, like, the new thing that I was doing.
Matt Hatner
Your whole, like, intestinal tract is just.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, no, no, no, no. I. I stopped drinking coffee because I was afraid of some adrenal gland issues, and so I moved to mate. And then I had that, and I didn't know if it was causing guarana.
Matt Hatner
For a little bit, bro. What? Yes. Which receptors? Clear out the old ones.
Top Lobster
Guys, the people are complaining about the banter.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, the banter. Banter. We're doing the banter again. I'm sorry, Cher, back to the Bible.
Matt Hatner
Is your name really Cher? Yeah.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Share. Saved by grace. Yeah. Yeah, same person.
Matt Hatner
A little before your time, but.
Top Lobster
So he said.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I understood it.
Top Lobster
He said to the Lord of hosts, before whom I stand, I'll surely show him unto my. Show myself unto him today. So he's probably just gonna sit in a rock and wait.
Matt Hatner
Yeah. I mean, just think about this, dude, man. In that time when God said, go hide yourself, is that where he learned to stand before God? God And I just think people jump the gun. They go to church, they get so excited. They start singing the songs, they start playing the games. I gotta be very honest.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't sing the song.
Matt Hatner
And they never go get quiet with God so that God can say, hey, just shut up for a minute. Let me talk to you. Like, let me explain.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, he does. He talks to us.
Top Lobster
They go before.
Matt Hatner
You just get in this system that, like, tells you all this stuff what to think of me, and you get it misconstrued. Like, let's just get alone for a little bit. Bit. Let's just get alone. And there's a time to get alone, and there's a time to go be with the people. There's time for both. And that's what Elijah's life shows us. But it looks like this is potentially where he learned how to stand in the presence of God was when he was alone, when he wasn't standing before, man. I just know that people love to be in front of man and get the praise of man and get the tweets from man and get the reactions from man. But sometimes you got to get along with God, man.
Top Lobster
Sound like you're from Wisconsin.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Wisconsin.
Top Lobster
All right, all right.
Matt Hatner
So, Obadiah. No, go ahead. You wanted to say more about that.
Top Lobster
We're gonna go.
Matt Hatner
No, I. I love your insight.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I like that you condemn him and he's like, moving forward, Moving forward.
Top Lobster
He's like.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He's.
Top Lobster
A lot of people like to go and listen to music in the church. It's 501C3.
Matt Hatner
I said there's no problem with that. You just need to know when it's that and when it's something else.
Top Lobster
I agree. Okay, very good. So Obadiah went to meet Ahab and told him, and Ahab went to meet Elijah. And it came to pass when Ahab saw Elijah, that Ahab said unto him, art thou he that troubleth Israel.
Matt Hatner
So Ahab, after all the posters and the wanted signs, he finally gets his eyes on Elijah.
Top Lobster
Didn't he meet him before when Elijah threatened him? He probably doesn't even remember.
Matt Hatner
Yeah, but it's been three and a half years. Think of what goes on in three. Think of. Think of what was going on in your guys tweeter cycle. Three and a half years ago.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I wasn't even on Twitter.
Matt Hatner
Yeah.
Top Lobster
David's gained a lot of weight since then.
Matt Hatner
I have not.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Fair point. I was ripped three and a half years ago, and now I'm.
Matt Hatner
But I'm just saying, think of what's gone on in that time period. It looks like for three and a half years, this dude Ahab has, like, committed his life. Life to track down Elijah. And now, boom, there he is.
Top Lobster
He's like, damn, he's here. What do I say?
Matt Hatner
Yeah.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And now he's asking him, like, yo, dog, are you causing, like, the droughts and such?
Matt Hatner
Yes.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay.
Matt Hatner
The raven is in it. No, because I feel like he's daydreaming, like, most of the show, and he's just kind of, like, thinking about stuff. He's. You know, he smiles when he just, like, smiles and looks off.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Dude, I'm not gonna lie to you. Like, what goes on?
Matt Hatner
Yeah, he's just staring off in the distance. When he pays attention, he has, like, great insight.
Top Lobster
He's doing it right there.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I know. No, I'm just laughing because.
Top Lobster
No, we'll be out. We'll be out. And he does the thing, and he'll smile, and I'm like, is there a camera in here?
Matt Hatner
No, he's just looking off in the distance. I've watched him do this, bro, because.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I just get, like. My head is just filled with stuff.
Top Lobster
I like to look like Ray Charles.
Matt Hatner
If you just, like, lock in. He has great insight. This is why I'm always trying for him to get serious about the word of God and, like, really be praying and reading alone. Like, I can't wait till he, like, enters the game. Like, dude, I do read alone. You always tell me you can't read, read.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like, you always do read alone. And I actually don't even. I thought I was gonna have to read out loud. I don't read out loud.
Top Lobster
What makes Gold special is that it's not as common. So you just accept the fact that you're gonna get some nice nuggets from them here and there. But a lot of the times it's gonna be a lot of just looking around.
Matt Hatner
Yeah. But I'm excited for when he's like, all in, dude, I can't wait for, you know. No, no, you're on the path. I'm not trying to, like, be nasty about.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You're being nothing but on the path you're being nasty.
Matt Hatner
When you get super serious serious, and you're, like, calling me and saying, matt, dude, what about this passage in 2 Kings? Matt. What about this passage in Acts? Matt, did you see this?
Top Lobster
I'm not gonna do it.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You know what? I don't. I gotta admit, too, I. What I don't do is, like, I don't feel compelled to do all that like a highlighting and circling like you say you circle the word four every time you see it. And I'm like, why would I? So I'm like, I'm reading.
Matt Hatner
What do you call that word? Top?
Top Lobster
Because.
Matt Hatner
No, a conjoiner.
Top Lobster
A rejoinder.
Matt Hatner
A rejoinder, bro. That's why. Because it's connecting that last verse with this verse that's saying, why.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But what. What is the benefit of circling it?
Matt Hatner
It just brings it to your attention and it pops more like, I don't know. I can't read this whole Bible and not engage with it and underline things, scribble on things, and put a star and put notes and put parallel passages that line up with that passage. I probably wouldn't, like. I wouldn't remember it all. I wouldn't. I wouldn't, like, be able to reference it or pull it up in my head if I was just reading.
Top Lobster
And not a rejoinder is a reply, especially a sharp or witty one. So, like, they're almost replying to themselves. With what they said. Right.
Matt Hatner
That word is accurate.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I didn't feel like it was accur going to say it. I think that's not accurate. No, I just like.
Matt Hatner
I like that word.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like rejoinder.
Top Lobster
Well, I'm just saying there's a thing.
Matt Hatner
That happens when you go all in for the kingdom of God and you're reading and it consumes your time and your life and your way of thinking. And I'm super excited for that happening with you. That's all I'm saying. And. And I love watching the process.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And I feel like you're just being nasty.
Top Lobster
I'm just saying. Don't.
Matt Hatner
I don't want to be nasty. I don't hold your breath for this.
Top Lobster
Okay, here we go. It came to pass that he saw him. He was like, yo, are you the guy? And he answered, I have not troubled Israel, but thou and thy father's house in that ye have forsaken the commandments of the Lord and thou hast followed Balaam.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I like that. So he's like, you think that it's me, dog, and you're searching everywhere. Don't shoot far and wide. And it's you.
Matt Hatner
Look in the mirror.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, Michael Jackson.
Matt Hatner
That's what he's saying, bro. Ahab, who's really brought all this? Who? Who really did bring all of this famine and drought on the land? Was it me? I don't think so, bro. Bro. Matter of fact, let's just go ahead and prove it, bud. Yeah, let's prove this.
Top Lobster
Now, therefore send and gather me all. Gather me all Israel.
Matt Hatner
Hold on. All the world?
Top Lobster
No, just Israel.
Matt Hatner
Wait, all the nations.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, dude.
Matt Hatner
All the people who are not covenant people.
Top Lobster
No, just Israel.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You do all this highlighting and then you ask questions like this.
Top Lobster
Hold on. This is a big deal.
Matt Hatner
Wait, therefore send and gather me all the covenant people. People.
Top Lobster
Just is.
Matt Hatner
Why would we have to find out where the covenant people heart lies? Why do we have to find that? Don't we already know? Of course the covenant people are with God. Right? Wait a minute. Let's get all the covenant people on the Mount Carmel.
Top Lobster
Wait, it's because you're saying. You're making the point because that doesn't like Israel. I don't. Well, I don't like current Israel. The government there. But you're talking about the Jewish people who. He is the God over. Because right now. So who's the God over? Who's the God right now?
Matt Hatner
God.
Top Lobster
Yeah, over everything. But. No, but I mean, it seems like before God's like, all right, yeah, they.
Matt Hatner
Got their God is God over everything. He gave everything to Adam. Hold on, I'm gonna go right through it. He gave everything to Adam. Adam gave everything to Satan. That's when Satan was able to say to Jesus, all the kingdoms of the world that have been given unto me, I'll give to you if you just bow down and worship before me. That's what he said to Jesus. And Jesus didn't say, hey, you don't have all the kingdom kingdoms because he does have all the kingdoms because Adam gave them to him. Now within that, he set up this system or maybe inherited a system that already existed because maybe he's not that organized, but the system already existed with lowercase g, gods ruling over nations, uppercase G, God. Who's God over everything is also the God over the nation of Israel. That doesn't change, which doesn't mean they do no wrong. Like clearly they're doing wrong wrong. Clearly they're incredibly wicked at this stage of the story. They're worshiping baal. So nobody's saying Israel does no wrong. Nobody's ever saying that. We're saying we have to interpret modern day Israel, interpret Israel in the Bible.
Top Lobster
What I'm, what I'm asking though here is he's specifically dealing with is he's like, bring Israel to me because I am the God. Like they know, they know. The other people they might know, but it hasn't been presented as obviously to these people. People.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Right.
Top Lobster
They have other principalities. So it makes sense that they're worshiping those.
Matt Hatner
The only way those other people were going to know was through Israel.
Top Lobster
Okay, so right, you're saying as of right now though, everybody, everybody knows. So this is like where blanket statement India is, India is part of. You'd know that today.
Matt Hatner
You're talking about today. Today the only way the nations know about God, the true God of the Bible, is through the church. Same thing. It's the same thing. Like God can do it however he wants, but he chooses to work through humans whether we like that or not. That's how he chooses to do it. Okay, so under that old covenant, the covenant with Israel, he showed himself who he was to all the nations through Israel. So when Israel drops the ball, everybody's screwed. The same way today he works through the church. If the church fails today, all the nations are screwed.
Top Lobster
You have to be careful because now you're talking about the church being Israel.
Matt Hatner
I'm not talking about the church being Israel. I'm talking about the church being the church and Israel being Israel.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right, well, we all need to be careful because Cher's watching and we're not reading the Bible, so can we please get back to it?
Top Lobster
Is this banter?
Matt Hatner
No, imagine, imagine this, because there's this movie injures, right? So just, just imagine for a minute. Just imagine for a minute. There's this fighting force on the planet that has power from another realm. They don't just have money and music and fog machines. They have supernatural power from another realm, right? There's entities, forces of darkness from another realm trying to enslave the human realm race. The only thing stopping those evil entities, right, is this force called the Avengers that are fighting against them. If the Avengers don't do their job, the human race is screwed. Okay, so I'm sorry to try to Avengers like a movie thing, but I'm saying, like, that's a more accurate depiction of the church than what you would get in like a normal show on Sunday morning. Like, and I hate that, that it has to come from like a movie. I hate that. But it's like, you watch that movie, you're like, damn, look at the parallels, man. Because in Titus it says, under the pure, all things are pure. So that's why, like, when we watch a movie, like, we should be having these Kingdom of God insights as we're watching it. Dude, this fighting force on the planet that has supernatural power from another realm is fighting and saving the humans from these forces of darkness coming from another realm. Dude, that's a pretty good accurate description of what the church is supposed to to be, or in this day, what Israel was supposed to be and where they fail. It's not just them that gets screwed, it's all the nations get screwed. And so my point is just that Elijah's bringing them here and a lot of church people miss this, the Mount Carmel showdown. They think it's like they brought all the nations to Mount Carmel, didn't bring the non Covenant people, they brought the Covenant people to Mount Carmel and said, enough is enough. You can worship God or you can worship baal, but you can't worship both. Both. Which is really the equivalent of Jesus saying you can't worship God and Mammon. It's the same thing for the church today. Like Israel couldn't worship God and baal. Jesus said, you can't worship God and Mammon. So the American church should really take that to heart because it's the same concept. All right.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Geez.
Top Lobster
No, no, no.
Matt Hatner
Sorry. Did I get loud and intense? I'm just trying to like, say it.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, I just, like, you do have a fascination with, like, dunking on fog. Like, I, you know, I get it within, like, the 5oC.
Matt Hatner
I don't like anything that's trying to make it look like the presence of God.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What if we got, like, a fog machine in here and we just called it fog and not God? We were like, this is God. Miss. We were like, this is fog.
Matt Hatner
Stop doing that.
Top Lobster
All right.
Matt Hatner
Okay. Actually, I like it, but I just want cool.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Right? It'd be cool to get a fog machine in here. I don't know.
Matt Hatner
But that's what I don't like. That's my beef with fog machine.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
Matt Hatner
Or any of the music.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, nobody's. Well, they're trying to make it look.
Matt Hatner
Like the presence of God. I'm like, how about we just get the presence of God? Like, let's just do that. I never thought of it that way.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Just like, ambiance.
Top Lobster
Like, I think. I think the music is important in inviting the presence of God. I think that you're operating in and you're manipulating frequency and vibration in order to create, like, an atmosphere which is pleasing to God. And he's. He is pleased when you. When you worship him, when you're. When you're. When you're creating this thing and giving it to him. I feel like that invites him in. I also feel like that. That, like, the music. Sometimes the music could also invite other things in because it's opening of this. There's something happens when you dance, when you listen to. No, you don't have to dance, but as a musician, I'm telling you, there's something significant about it. You're opening up some sort of. You're playing in a game that I'm starting to understand more. I know it's hard for you to understand, but I do understand the part of it.
Matt Hatner
No, I'm listening.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, I'm looking behind your glasses.
Top Lobster
You're looking at it as you're looking at it from the outside. It's like, this is a show. And to a lot of people, it is a show. They're. They're just there to do this. They have their nice shiny guitars. They have their nice things, and they want to play their music that is structured in a certain way. But I think you could master your. Master the music in such a way to invite that in. This is what David was doing, too. David wasn't just a king.
Matt Hatner
I love what you're saying and agree with what you're saying because you're saying there's the potential for that, I'm simply saying when you go watch these corny ass 501c3 shows, it's not like that you're saying, like, wait, what?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What?
Matt Hatner
Like, like this is all we got. We have. We have the king of the universe, we have the God that created everything living inside us. And this is the best we can come up with, is the worship music industry. There's a worship music industry, bro.
Top Lobster
The problem is that, like, there's so many talented people within that that have mastered their craft. I don't know where their heart is at. And it's. It's. That's a tricky part. But then it's paired with the money making aspects. It's paired with the visual, like the weird.
Matt Hatner
It's okay. But it's paired with the entertainment aspect. If we could just cut the BS for a minute, bro. It's like, like, Americans love entertainment. Like, like, like that's really the issue is, like, you go to church and it's entertainment based.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Matt Hatner
Like, that's it. That's what I'm saying is like, I don't want to come here and do the entertainment thing.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Nancy says play binaural beats in the background. Can we get a. Somebody said get a fog machine for bohemian girl.
Top Lobster
There's something to that. Like the binaural beats opening up this idea of like, people are connecting with interdimensional aliens or. Or demonstration using a binaural beat. You can do the same thing with frequency, vibration and music. You can. You can put yourself into a spot. It's weird.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He's doing the face.
Matt Hatner
If you could see my eyes. I don't know what you're talking about, but if you're just saying that, like, you can use music to open up the spirit realm. Yeah, absolutely.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah. That's what he's saying. Why are you so.
Top Lobster
It's a good tool, but I, I think it does get lost. Like what you're saying.
Matt Hatner
Yeah, the music should be hard, bro. In church. Like, you should come and be like, damn, another level, dude. Yeah, yeah, Misty Edwards.
Top Lobster
But the thing is, to get it on that on another level is like.
Matt Hatner
Now you're trying to fire people to be quiet and get on another level with God. To bring forth music that's on another level. And if we're not doing that, we're just saying, hey, you showed up for practice, right? Let's all do the practice so we can play like these songs that every plays.
Top Lobster
It's gotten so muddy because it's like you need like $150,000 of equipment to replicate this, bro.
Matt Hatner
What? That's.
Top Lobster
As we talk through $10,000 worth of equipment. Equipment to talk to these people, to.
Matt Hatner
Preach the gospel, that's one thing. But to play music so people are entertained, like, that's just not in the book.
Top Lobster
But you can do that.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What it's for, is it, I can do that, people, or is it to please the Lord?
Top Lobster
Here's the thing. I can play on my acoustic guitar to 15 people.
Matt Hatner
Just dropped a gold nugget.
Top Lobster
I know. But here's where it gets tricky. So I guess it's like, should we be playing to, like, this many people that. I mean, the church we go to has got, like, I don't know, 200 people. But in order for them to experience the quality, like, if I was right.
Matt Hatner
In front of you, can we just read the biblical Hitman?
Top Lobster
Fine, let me pull it up.
Matt Hatner
I didn't mean to cut you off. I just didn't want to lose it.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, that's exactly what it is. I wanted to hear that, and I'm sorry.
Matt Hatner
Yeah. I just don't want to lose it.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
NRA movement NAR Temporary church mixes Eastern mysticism with their music. Something to be cautious of.
Top Lobster
Just what's nr?
Matt Hatner
No, no.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, yeah. Just my opinion, but mantras are used to invite people into a spiritual experience, not truth.
Matt Hatner
This is what we talked about when you guys said there was tongues at your church. And I said, was there music? And then it kind of came down.
Top Lobster
Yeah, dude.
Matt Hatner
That's how it just felt. Like there was this opportunity.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't appreciate.
Matt Hatner
Showcase their gift.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't appreciate you doing that. About the tongues at my church.
Top Lobster
The new, new apostolic reformation.
Matt Hatner
But, Tom, I didn't mean to cut you off.
Top Lobster
No, he's. He's right. There is something about, like, you have a chorus, and that's a repeating mantra that's being said over and over again, and it's to create, like, a certain movie. It does create that. But if it's. It's coming from Eastern mysticism. But where does Eastern mysticism derive that that works? It's a thing that does work. I. I don't know. I don't know what to think about it. But I do know.
Matt Hatner
I think this is a fair conversation because I don't want to hate. Hate music on behalf of the Lord. Like, I just. I just think it should be something much greater. But just, like, I think preaching should be much better than it is now. I think the whole thing is, like, gone off track, dude. I think the music is Corny and weak. And I think the preaching is corny and weak. And I'm just saying if we're really filled with the spirit of God, there should be way better stuff coming out, dude, Way harder hitting, way more real things that doesn't have any kind of spirit of hypocrisy in it. Because that's what our Lord like railed against. Against.
Top Lobster
I don't. I don't even know where to put it because realistically, like I said, if I'm sitting in front of you with an acoustic guitar and I'm not a good singer, but a singer in this room, it's fantastic. It's coming right from where we're at. If I want to do that to a lot of people. You're talking about like a lot. Like now I got to pour a lot of money into this just to replicate it accurately so that way you're hearing what we hear. Maybe it's not supposed to be for that many people. Maybe it's just supposed to be for like 10.
Matt Hatner
Okay, so let's say a guy crushes it on guys guitar and pours his heart out to the Lord. When he's quiet and alone with the Lord in his room. Why can't he just go on the stage with a guitar and do that? It doesn't take $150,000 for the guy to go on the stage and just crush with the Lord.
Top Lobster
It does it. Listen, my guitar is twelve hundred dollars. My, my amplified, my. My setup, my foot pedals, my. Like it's going to cost at least grand. Three grand. Three to five. To. To sound okay. It's crazy. There's so much money just to sound okay through this stuff. And now the sound system. System, it's like, it gets out of control. It's like, are we scaling? Owen Benjamin will be on tomorrow.
Matt Hatner
So now you're saying exactly what I'm saying. You just like to disagree with me in the beginning, but then you always end up saying exactly what I'm saying.
Top Lobster
I think we're talking about scale, right? Like how big can you grow something scale without it getting too like. Like McDonald's.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Just logistically, what about the people in the back is a 200 person congregation and they're stretched all the way to the back pews. People that are in the front row, in the center could hear it well, but the people in the back to the left can't hear it at all.
Matt Hatner
Okay, so a dude with a microphone and four speakers in the back cost 150k. Wow.
Top Lobster
There's a lot that goes into it.
Matt Hatner
That's pandemonium, bro. Like, John Wesley used to preach with no. Jesus used to preach with no microphone.
Top Lobster
Preaching is different. That's just like spoken word when you. When you have. Like, when you have 15 instruments.
Matt Hatner
Okay. Charles Wesley used to sing hymns. And I think some homies in the chat were talking about hymns, which. Those are way more raw and hard than any of the modern stuff. And they were, like, legit preaching by music. And those dudes did it without electronics. Like, I. Yeah, I don't know. I just think we're playing games today and we're trying to entertain people. People, and we refuse to admit the truth. Like, that's what this is about is, like, people want to come there and be entertained. The same way they're entertained when they have the remote and they're just watching whatever they want. Like, I want to be entertained and watch this show at church, and there's no biblical context for that. That's. That's all I'm saying. But I would love it if there's dudes who go hard after the Lord with music, and they come out and just crush. And people in the people that are around are saying, like, yes, let's go. I want to worship the Lord too. I love that. I love that. But it shouldn't be corny and weak.
Top Lobster
Weak.
Matt Hatner
But again, I'm not just picking on music. Like, the preaching shouldn't be corny and weak either.
Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah, There's. Whatever. There's a lot of. I'm sure we'll be kicked out of the church after. Who cares?
Matt Hatner
No, bro, There's a lot of you there. As much as you're doing for them in the 501C3 system now, they love you, dude. They would never get you anything, dude. Free workers like that, they'll never get rid of.
Top Lobster
These are just questions that I have.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Look at the way he slips that in there, by the way. Free workers, they love you.
Top Lobster
But I'm bleeding from all the daggers.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Unbelievable, dude.
Top Lobster
Let's continue. Let's continue.
Matt Hatner
No, we can't. It's. We're at 1 hour and 41 minutes, and I know how you get. And we're about to embark on, like, the heavy, heavy part of this.
Top Lobster
Look, we only have, like, 40 more, dude.
Matt Hatner
This is heavy.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
40 more. We only have 40 more.
Top Lobster
Whatever we could do. When do you have to go, Matt? Because I know your eyes.
Matt Hatner
I don't have to go anywhere. No, I'm getting better by the minute, dude.
Top Lobster
No.
Matt Hatner
You guys want to keep Going. I just know how you get at the minute.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't know. I feel like you're getting the people.
Matt Hatner
They can only pay attention for so long.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Is it because we keep, like. You want to go saying things? You keep getting, like, more and more upset. Because I feel like as it goes on.
Matt Hatner
I don't mean to be like that. I love to talk through this stuff.
Top Lobster
All right.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, we're not going to pay you all at blgh. Good to see you, dude. Hope you're doing well.
Top Lobster
Okay.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Love that guy.
Matt Hatner
What, does everybody want to keep going?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, they want us to kick the pores out. But this is. This is for the people.
Matt Hatner
What does that mean?
Top Lobster
Matt's slapping today.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Blabbing, blapping.
Top Lobster
You're slapping. You're slapping hard.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I would say you're guaming.
Top Lobster
I think what it is is sometimes when you. When you deny one of your senses, the rest of them come to life. So he's like, his brain is working better.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
Matt Hatner
Okay, hold on. Tyler. Tyler. 912. This is a good thing. This is a good thing, man. So I'm not totally familiar with dispensationalists. I know what they're like. I don't use a lot of the phrases that the modern church uses to divide people because that's what a lot of that's about. But the Jewish nation has a very specific destiny in God. They are different from the church. Israel is Israel. The church is the church. Israel has a very. Look at him. He's yawning. I told you.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, dude, I was.
Matt Hatner
He's yawning. He's got low.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm. I'm. I have. My adrenal gland is suffering from the 17 caffeinated drink system.
Matt Hatner
Or you've got this nation of Israel that was set up not by any lowercase G God. It was actually set up by uppercase G God. He grabbed this dude, Abraham. He had a very specific lineage. It was Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And even refers to himself as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. And he sets up a nation on the planet, right? He tells them all these things. They disobey everything. He cast them out of the land. But he has these prophecies that he's going to bring him back, dude. He says, like, yeah, even after you guys are dispersed, which ends up going down in A.D. 70, he says, I'm going to bring you back. And I know this is like a trigger phrase. What is he doing?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Dude, I'm sweating.
Matt Hatner
I know this is like a trigger phrase for people in this room. But in 1948, the people came back to the land, bro. And I know people are like, no, the Rothschilds did that. Okay, whatever. But God prophesied that through Jeremiah, through Isaiah, thousands of years ago, that they would be gone, that they would be gone from the land and that they'd be brought back to the land. And we watched it happen. And that is a miracle. No matter who did it, who is Israel or whoever else, like, they brought them back to the land. So this would be. Like I've said before, it's an incredibly strange coincidence if it, if it wasn't God bringing them back. No matter how he decided to do it, no matter how he did it through the. I know these are all trigger.
Top Lobster
Israel is the covenant people that God made a, made a pact with, to spread his word.
Matt Hatner
And he had covenant people before Israel. He had homies before Abraham. So. So there's covenant people before him, dude. There's dudes like Noah, Enoch, like, there's definitely. He's got guys before that. So then you've got Israel, the nation of Israel. Jesus came and fulfilled the law, right? So now there's this whole other thing. The Holy Spirit comes down on the day of Pentecost, and now we have the church. There's still Israel, there's still a nation called Israel, and there's a church. And Israel has a very specific destiny. If you read it out in the.
Top Lobster
Book of Revelation, Steve Bannon called for a three state solution in Israel, which is, it's really, it's like a hectic statement. So like, you know, like, you have Palestine and then you have Israel. And he said the third state should be a Christian state. And I'm like, I don't even know what to think about that because. But why?
Matt Hatner
What would it be? It would be Israel. What? And what?
Top Lobster
The Jews, the ones who just believe in God and not Jesus Christ. The Palestinians who do. Whatever. Some of them are Christians. And the Christians, the ones who actually believe in Jesus Christ and the Gospel.
Matt Hatner
And the entire body of Christians.
Top Lobster
No, I mean, they, maybe they should. Maybe Christians should have part of Israel. If that's part of God, that's God's land. And Christians are actually obeying God.
Matt Hatner
God.
Top Lobster
I, I get it. They were pro. I don't know. It's an interesting thought.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's.
Top Lobster
It's a. Not just thought provoking, but I think it aggravates a lot of people because it's like following. You're not even following God. And we're spending all this money and time and Effort and lives to give you back this land.
Matt Hatner
Yeah, but, but I mean, furthermore, God allowed them to be driven out of the land. He allowed the church to be driven out. He told them in Acts 1 to go not just to Israel and Samaria, Judea, but the uttermost parts of the earth. So the church has already been driven to all the planet. Yeah, like that's the deal with that. And then in AD 70, Israel was just completely driven out of the land.
Top Lobster
But he also said, and whoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words when you, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and, and Gomorrah in the, in the day of judgment than for that city.
Matt Hatner
Yeah, to those who don't respond to Christ.
Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah, all of Israel. That's what I'm saying.
Matt Hatner
Anyone who doesn't respond to Christ. But yeah, that, that context is to Israel. Yeah, dude, I'm not. I mean, look at Israel. Like they say, when Jesus is being crucified, let his blood be on us and our children forever. Like, history has borne witness to that. Ask the fact that they asked that you just follow history. Like they got what they asked for. For, like, like, like there's no sugar coating any of that with Israel or saying they do all good or saying that they didn't worship demons. Like all through the scripture, they are doing that. They are doing that and God chose them anyway.
Top Lobster
I actually really, like, he chose that.
Matt Hatner
Nation for a specific destiny anyway. But we've talked about it before. He wasn't saying, like we've talked about God could have gave a bag of candy to all the nations evenly. Like if you have kids and you could give a bag of candy to all your kids evenly, or you could give a bag of candy to one of your kids and have them disperse it to the other kids. That's what he did with Israel. Like, that was it. And so if Israel takes the bag of candy and says, yeah, this is ours and you guys are losers and you're lower than us, and you're lower humanity than us, then that's wrong. Then they missed it.
Top Lobster
And they did and they still do. But now the church has the bag of candy.
Matt Hatner
Exactly. So now. So if the church does the same thing, that's all I want to be aware of. Candy arguments. Christ, man. Like, at the end of the day, it's God. It's our job to share God with, with all of humanity. And if we start to take a position of, like, I love my little 501C3 system. I love the music. I'm very entertained. You can come to my church. As long as you're part of my, like, one of my neighbors. If you're in the same political party, if you're part of the same socioeconomic status. Yeah. Then you're welcome in my church. Then as we're doing that, then we're behaving just like Israel. We haven't learned our lesson.
Top Lobster
So then, like, should we not even be worried about the geographical location that is Israel?
Matt Hatner
There's going to that land. There is a covenant for that land. So I just. I wouldn't want to find myself fighting against God. I know. That's another, like, trigger topic or whatever. Like, they were given a very specific part of land, chunk of land that they haven't inhabited. Now, when exactly that goes down, I don't know. I'm not engaged in that. I don't have anything to do with that because I live in Florida, and it's just not my thing, bro. It's like, it's not my thing to be, like, fighting and getting involved in politics and dividing land or saying who should have.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
When they go like, oh, from the river to the sea, and there's all this, like, you know, I kind of go. Not that I don't care, but, like, yeah, I guess I kind of don't care. I'm like, I don't. That's not.
Matt Hatner
Yeah, man, I got this. But this is the problem, dude, especially in the world that you guys live in, which I would hate to live in, which is, like, all this stuff from the tweeting, and this guy said. This guy said, what do you think about this? What do you think about that? And you get so engaged in these things that you have no control over, and you're not taking care of your own life that you do have control over. You can take care of your household. You can be reading the scripture in your home and praying in your home and praying with your kids and reading the scripture to your kids and affecting everyone in your sphere. And when you start to take on these big topics and start arguing over dispensationalists and who Israel is and this other stuff, you just start losing all of your own life.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I got to point out something. This is why we tried to clip a mic on your shirt.
Top Lobster
No, no, he's good.
Matt Hatner
No, he's like, no, I came back. No, I came back.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right, I'm just saying.
Matt Hatner
But do you See what I'm saying? Like, this is what, this is why the news is so wicked and evil, man. It's not because like one side's wrong and the other side's right. It's because you get so consumed with these things that you have no control over. Dude, the football team that you love doesn't care about you like at all, man. The baseball team that you cheer for, they could care less. They don't even know your name.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't even like.
Matt Hatner
And like Republicans, they don't care about you. Democrats don't care about like none of.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
This politics is the anything. You know that.
Matt Hatner
And like you just get sucked into it. Yeah. Like you're watching WWF and they're like, they're like body slamming and stuff on the stage and then they're in the back making deals and all the while you're like, yeah, I'm on the red team.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
They're doing a lot more.
Matt Hatner
And then you're just completely forsaken, taking the things in your life and the mental capacity you have to control things that you do have control over.
Top Lobster
Yeah, but the. So in the book of Jude, what we just covered, we're talking about the people that are in the church, the people that don't belong there. I can't help but think of like Judeo Christianity. This is why I keep. It keeps coming up because that then touches politics. But that's in the church and that's where the people are. And that's you. Like, you're like, don't go there. But I'm like, but the people are there.
Matt Hatner
I didn't say don't go there.
Top Lobster
No, no, you know, you infer. Yeah, I agree though. You're like, it's not a place for people that are like really searching. But there are people in there that are, are good people.
Matt Hatner
Amen. There's people that come to the coffee shop that are good people. I mean, it's like.
Top Lobster
But all those. And not, not, not saying that life church is like this. But there's a lot of churches that are bound to this and, and they've already been infiltrated. And you can tell that they've been infiltrated because. Well, I mean, like, you know, if you just say Judeo Christianity is what we're following. Well, the first part of it doesn't. Their beliefs are contrary to what you go do every week on Sunday and Wednesday. They don't believe in that. So like it's been infiltrated and it's like, it's important. And now we're in this geopolitical thing, and we're in politics, and it's like, it's a headache. Like, we have to do the straight Bible stuff, but that's constantly coming up, and I don't even know how to deal with it anymore. Like, you can't ignore it.
Matt Hatner
I just don't care.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm just like, yeah, I kind of don't. I kind of just don't deal with it. Yeah, because it's not mine to deal with.
Matt Hatner
Like.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like, even. I don't know, like, you have to.
Top Lobster
Deal with it because they've, like I said, they've already infiltrated the people come out of that. Like, not just come out of the church, but, like, maybe the church is okay, but if it's been infiltrated in this way and, like, we're. We're talking about the different denominations, let's split up 10,000 different ways.
Matt Hatner
So you're going to go in that church and reform it. You have to understand, dude, there was a generation that came out of Egypt, Egypt that God said, you're gonna die in the wilderness. He didn't say, I'm gonna send reformation. I'm gonna send revival. Heaven is gonna die. So if you want to go in and reform the modern American 501C3 system, which I think is a great idea for you to do, then that's great. But I haven't been called to that, man. I've been called to preach the gospel.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Matt Hatner
I just keep going hard after the Lord and say, lord, do whatever you want to do with my life. Like. Like, I don't care if. Even if you want me to be the guy with the MIC at the 5:1 C3 system, I would do that, Lord, if you called me to do that. But I'm down for whatever. Like, let's go wherever you want to go with this, right? And then next thing you know, you have a Christian library. Then a dude comes in with a Nephilim Death Squad shirt. You're doing a podcast, and, like, the gospel's being preached. So you just go with the Lord, bro, and you just follow him and act according to his guidance. And don't worry about all the things you don't have any control over, man. Control your little sphere. Speak into that little sphere.
Top Lobster
Okay, okay, fair enough. All right.
Matt Hatner
Don't get so consumed with, like, the world stuff that's, like, so concerning. It's, like, so hard, you know? It's like all the world is all this stuff. Like, it's going to keep doing that.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I think the appropriate Method for the world is to. To make fun of it. I think that's what. That's what we do. And what we do. Well, we should continue just doing that. You just point it and go, ha, homos.
Top Lobster
All right, let's get back. This is too much banter.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
This is a lot of ban.
Matt Hatner
Oh, we're not. Are we going to keep going?
Top Lobster
I think we should do a little bit. I mean, do you want to.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We cover from the last time that.
Top Lobster
We cover Mount Carmel a little bit of that.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
At least cover a mountain in Carmel.
Top Lobster
All the way up to Elijah's prayer, I guess, to 35. And then we could do the rest.
Matt Hatner
Bro, that's this. You're talking about hours, but I'm down.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Unbelievable.
Matt Hatner
Let's see the entirety of the shirt. Like in this next passage.
Top Lobster
We're trying to sell some shirts is what I'm saying.
Matt Hatner
You don't even have a way for people to buy them.
Top Lobster
Yeah, you can come to the standard coffee shop and. And casino.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You want the elevator music.
Matt Hatner
Dude brings up an intriguing topic, man. Ask him about the star Rem fam. It's very intriguing that there's this so called Star of David. I like this dude. What he's saying. I respect what he's saying. There is this thing called the so called Star of David. Like, we don't have a record of that. As far as I know in the scripture we do have that star Rem fam. So it is intriguing that that star is set up like that and then so whatever there is Saturn of Kronos, symbology and some things that you just kind of say, I don't know what's going on with this.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We brought that up.
Matt Hatner
It brings me back to. Oh, yeah, Israel.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Derek Gilbert doesn't do no wrong. Derek Gilbert, Matt. Yeah, yeah, we brought that up to Derek Gilbert. What is he?
Top Lobster
Prophecy watches?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Prophecy watchers. He was quite upset, dude.
Ad Voice
He.
Top Lobster
Let me tell you something. If I like him too, I like him. But if. If a demon could manifest in front of you and you could watch it on video.
Matt Hatner
Video.
Top Lobster
We were like, well, what? You know, like. Because he's talking about Israel, all this stuff. And we're like, yeah, but like, what do you make of like this scripture here? Like that that's possibly the Star of Remphant and the dude turned red and like it was a different.
Matt Hatner
But that's probably because that's like a thing. You're not having a conversation. Like, you just think you're asking about that. That must be like a trigger thing. That's already been brought up. He was triggering in the chats and in all the other stuff.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What is the name of the shop? This is the standard. Standard coffee shop.
Matt Hatner
Yeah. So a standard is like a, you know, like a standard bearer in an army. They come out and they lift a banner. They lift a standard. Or like the tribes of Israel. I know that's gonna get tough for people, but you know what?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I thought it was Matt because you know, he's like straight Bible. Standard coffee. No, like I'm straight Bible and it's just standard coffee.
Top Lobster
Regular coffee.
Matt Hatner
Oh, no, no. That seems very arrogant to say this is the standard of coffee.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, no, I, I like. Standard isn't like I just do coffee.
Matt Hatner
Like.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You know what I mean? Like, that's what I mean.
Matt Hatner
That it means like all the tribes.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Tribes.
Matt Hatner
You love that. Dude, you're crushing the matcha. It's very healthy. But all the tribes of Israel like had their own standard. And the whole concept was like the standard bearer would lift the standard and based on that, all of the tribes would know where to gather. So that's what we're doing here. We're just lifting a standard. That's lifting a banner.
Top Lobster
Any of those flags have like the as above so below triangle overlaid over it?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh yeah, like the divine masculine, divine feminine.
Ad Voice
Yeah.
Matt Hatner
You guys should do a deep dive on those of the tribes of Israel.
Top Lobster
The symbology behind is probably crazy, right?
Matt Hatner
It probably is, man. But those are all the tribes. And I really felt like the Lord was saying just lift the standard. And you don't even know who's in your tribe. But they're coming. And I feel like this has been a big part of it too. Like, look at all these people in the chat. Like they're like part of the standard. They, they saw the standard. They're like, yo, I'm in that tribe, man. And they're here, you know, and just like the people that come in the shop, it's a very bizarre mix from all the different denominations and all the people, people that don't go to church and all the people from different backgrounds and all the wealthy people, poor people.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Papa bear, Grizzly. I want to shout him out. He's, he's, he's. His son is on the way and his son's name is Elijah. Oh, I saw that shout out to. To ancap Grizzly. Congratulations, brother.
Top Lobster
Hope it's a within the next five days.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, that's dope. Isn't that cool? Look, Matt's just like, what, what happened is Elijah his son's gonna be named Elijah. I love that we're doing the. Well, that's the book that we.
Matt Hatner
I know. I love that.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's the Tish bite. It's the.
Top Lobster
You don't look like you love it.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You look crazy.
Top Lobster
You look like.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Are you all right?
Top Lobster
Perturbed?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Can you shout out.
Matt Hatner
You can't see eyes. The problem is you can't see my eyes.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah. Thank goodness. They probably look grumpy.
Top Lobster
Is that. Is that ancap. Grizzly.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's an grizzly.
Top Lobster
Hey, man. Yeah, dude, that's grizzly. Yeah, he's been. He's been a long time fan of the show.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Long time, homie.
Top Lobster
Probably since the beginning. Very.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Start air horns for Elijah.
Matt Hatner
Ready? Because a lot of the long time.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, then nobody.
Matt Hatner
You. Oh, yeah.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Can you do this?
Top Lobster
Oh, no, don't do that.
Matt Hatner
Don't do that.
Top Lobster
We have to continue to read the Bible.
Matt Hatner
Whoa.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Nancy, hit us with the chirp. Oh, my goodness.
Top Lobster
All right. Can we read the Bible?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Don't ask questions.
Matt Hatner
Wait a minute.
Top Lobster
Do we want it? Do we want to. No. Okay.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Not on this show. Please. Remember the last time we had to explain some deep.
Top Lobster
He would not like it, but it's just true.
Matt Hatner
Okay, don't do it then. You're right.
Top Lobster
I don't tell you after the show.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, we don't have to tell him at all. He's just going to think little of us.
Matt Hatner
Okay. The people in the chat know what the chirp is.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, they know what the chirp is. You don't know what the chirp is.
Matt Hatner
I don't want to know.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Look, we. We're cool.
Top Lobster
We.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's a civ.
Top Lobster
No, it's not our lore. It's. It's a real thing. It's crazy. All right. 1818. And he answered, I have not troubled Israel but thou. All right. So he's telling him. It's like, yo, you're following baal, Salem. That's why you're being.
Matt Hatner
That's what brought this curse on the land, man. Yeah.
Top Lobster
Now therefore, send and gather me all Israel unto Mount Carmel. And the prophets of Baal 450. And the prophets of the Grove, 400. That's why we got the 850 versus one which eat at Jezebel's filthy nasty table.
Matt Hatner
You know what's funny? Somebody sent me. Somebody bought this shirt the other day. Somebody. It zoomed in on this and sent the text and zoomed in on that and said, so sneaky. Versus one. It's in the water.
Top Lobster
That was our last Edit. That was the last edit on the. On the shirt. And you're like, can you put it in there? We made it look like water. Very real. Sneaky.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like, sneaky.
Top Lobster
I like it. Okay, so we'll continue reading this one.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
They want us to explain the chirp. You know how, like, they're stopping SNAP benefits. No. All right, never mind. Never mind. Please continue.
Top Lobster
Let's just say some people can't hear that noise. I'm glad you reacted.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's a good sign. You can hear it is what Nancy said. Okay, please continue.
Top Lobster
It's crazy.
Matt Hatner
I don't like this.
Top Lobster
I don't like it either.
Matt Hatner
Now therefore, send and gather to me all Israel. That's where we left off. It started this whole banter for the last half hour unto Mount Carmel.
Top Lobster
I just read that.
Matt Hatner
And the prophets of Baal 450. And the prophets of the groves, 400, which eat at Jezebel's table. So Jezebel is, like, putting up all the false prophets, dude. She's the one supporting them.
Top Lobster
That's why she killed all the other, like, the donors.
Matt Hatner
Don't you guys talk about, like, the donors? And why are the donors donating all this and controlling everything? So she has the money, and she's like. She's the donor for all these false prophets.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Jezebel is.
Matt Hatner
Yeah, she's setting them up.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
She's. So she's a hoe with money.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Matt Hatner
And I mean, if.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, she's. Because she's.
Matt Hatner
If there's 850 of these false prophets and they have to be taken care of with food and water at a time of famine and drought, like, that's a big deal, dude. She's keeping them around. And that's. And that's not a small thing.
Top Lobster
They're probably all bums, too. Like, they don't have job. These guys don't do jobs. They do spells and labor, like, manual labor.
Matt Hatner
They're about to get smoked in a minute, too. So Ahab sent unto all the children of Israel and gathered the prophets together on the Mount Carmel. And Elijah came unto all the people and said, how long halt you between two opinions? If the Lord is God, follow him. But if it's baal, then follow him.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So you can't be serving two masters like this.
Matt Hatner
And the people answered him, not a word. Word.
Top Lobster
He was quiet, dude.
Matt Hatner
They were like, this is the guy. Now, I'm just asking you. There's 850 false prophets, right? There's the whole nation of Israel, which. What is that, a million people? I. I Don't know. It's a nation.
Top Lobster
I mean, there's like 6 million people.
Matt Hatner
It's a lot of.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Seems a little high.
Matt Hatner
Now the question is, to your point, because it takes so much money to do this. Did he have $150,000 worth of sound equipment to reach all these people? What are we talking about?
Top Lobster
They were quiet, I suppose.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
Matt Hatner
What are we talking about, bro? It doesn't take all this money and equipment to reach the people. They didn't answer a word. They were like, this dude is the real deal, man.
Top Lobster
Here's the thing, though, Matt. I mean, you've seen the technical difficulties that we have. Technical, technical. Freudian slip. The technical difficulties that we've had. I'm just a stickler for this stuff, but I think you're. This is what my dis. I've had arguments with my dad about this where I. I'm like, and here's my thing. We're playing the music. I tell my dad, it's like, it has to be perfect. It has to be perfect. I don't care about the cost. We gotta do that. And he's like, nah, man, just give it to God. God loves it. And I was like, yeah, I know he loves it, but it's gotta be perfect. If it's not perfect, why are you doing if you could do it better?
Matt Hatner
Do your work heartily as unto the Lord and not unto men. That's what Colossians 3:23 is. So I love that. I respect that. You're like, dude, if we're going to do this for the Lord, let's do it good. That's why we, like, if we run a coffee shop. That's why we have good drinks. That's why what we do is good.
Top Lobster
So you had standard drinks.
Matt Hatner
We do everything heartily as under the Lord and not unto men. That's not what it means, Tank.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, and now I understand why you treat your employees the way you do.
Top Lobster
Because you expect.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You expect like, a certain.
Top Lobster
Stop. No, you don't. You don't recover from that. He just called you Tank Top.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He called me Tank Top. I did not.
Matt Hatner
You're gonna.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You're gonna own that. That's great. Oh, I like that. Doesn't matter.
Matt Hatner
What then, said Elijah, oh, unto the people, I even I only remain a prophet of the Lord. But Baal's prophets are 450 men. Let them therefore give us two bulls. And let them choose one bull for themselves and cut it in pieces and lay it on wood and put no fire under. And I'LL dress the other bull and lay it on wood and put no fire under and call you on the name of your gods. And I'll call on the name of the Lord and the God that answers by fire. Let him be God, he says. Remember Daniel said, let's put it to the test.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's doing the same thing.
Matt Hatner
And a God is always like, let's put it to the test. Let's put it to the test.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Step up.
Matt Hatner
And all the people answered and said, it is well spoken. And Elijah said unto the prophets of baal, choose you one bull for yourselves and dress it first, for you are many. And call on the name of your gods, lowercase g gods, plural. But put no fire under it because I know you guys are sneaky. Don't. Don't put any fire under it.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So wait, wait, wait. What is he calling them to do.
Matt Hatner
Is make a sack. So, so make a sacrifice, right? Make an altar, get all the wood, chop it all up, put it there. Put. Put the animal on the altar, but don't light the fire.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And don't be sneaky about it because, you know, pagans are sneaky.
Matt Hatner
And then call out to your gods because. Because Israel needs to know at this point who's God. Right? The covenant people, they need to know who's God at this point.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So what do you think is happening.
Matt Hatner
For so long that they don't even know now?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, what do you think is happening here? Because. Because it's like these pagan deities are capable of things, but will they not do it if it's in contest directly with. With God?
Top Lobster
I think if God told him to do this, like, he didn't just make this up. God told him to do this. And God was probably keeping these things out, right?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Because that's what I'm saying. Because, like, the idea that they couldn't light a fire on an effigy or whatever, you know, is like. Well, that's. They do things.
Top Lobster
They could, right?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
They do things. What are you laughing at? What's so funny? Stop reading the text. Whatever.
Top Lobster
What are you reading?
Matt Hatner
No, no, no. I just think. Yeah, like these like, like these entities, these lowercase g gods clearly have power and do stuff, but not right now. But when uppercase G God comes on the scene, their power is nullified and we're going to see because these guys start doing things the way they do it in expectation. They're not like, bro, what? Fire's not going to come out of heaven from our lowercase g gods. They don't Say that they go about their business. Like it's going.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, like what?
Matt Hatner
And watch the stuff they do.
Top Lobster
Yeah, because we've done this many times. Probably our.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Our goat headed t. Pity God is going to come down here and. And what. This is so inappropriate, you know?
Matt Hatner
And they took the bull which was given them and they dressed it and called on the name of BAAL from morning until noon. Oh, baal, hear us. But there is no voice nor any that answered. And they left on the altar which was made. So they're jumping up and down on it.
Top Lobster
Oh, they're doing like the snake stuff, like.
Matt Hatner
And it came to pass at noon that Elijah mocked them. You know this story.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What sorts of words do you think.
Matt Hatner
He used and said cry aloud for He's a lowercase G. God. Either he's talking or he is pursuing in a journey. Or maybe he's sleeping. It must be awake.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Damn.
Matt Hatner
So I don't know, there's some funny stuff, like he's talking, pursuing. Like, what does that mean?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
See, I like that. Federal agent even says it. Mocking is biblical. So when I go, like, we're supposed to look to the world and just kind of like, mock it. Like, we're supposed to look at Twitter and we're supposed to mock it. We're supposed to look at politics and we're supposed to mock it. Like, that's. Is that biblical? Would you. Was.
Top Lobster
I agree.
Matt Hatner
It's biblical right here. It's biblical right here. I'm just saying don't get consumed by it where it, like, becomes your whole life and you love the reactions.
Top Lobster
No, he's right.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
There is.
Top Lobster
So we have. I have become consumed by it at some points because I'm very good at it. That's true.
Matt Hatner
You.
Top Lobster
You have to.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
All right.
Top Lobster
Yeah. You remember the day you spent like, three. The day. The week. You spent three straight days just mocking people until they doxxed you.
Matt Hatner
That's right.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
Matt Hatner
Yeah, that's right.
Top Lobster
Little too far. Too far, tank top.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't think that that was too far.
Matt Hatner
And they cried aloud and cut themselves after their manner. After their manner. This wasn't a new thing.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What about you crybabies, bro?
Top Lobster
They got little cuts on their arms.
Matt Hatner
No blood sacrifice. Okay.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
There was like, emojis.
Matt Hatner
They. Yes, well, that's what emo. No, that's like cutting. There's a thing cutting, like, people do it modern. It's not a new thing. None of the stuff is new things.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Emo is gay.
Matt Hatner
Yeah. It's blood sacrifice, bro.
Top Lobster
It is. And that's Important too. Like you have kids doing that and they're doing it. Yeah. But like, the significance of it is probably still the same. They don't understand that what they're doing is a form of blood sacrifice.
Matt Hatner
Abortion, same thing. It's. It's all this. None of this stuff changes, bro. The blood sacrifice, none of it changes, man. Those evil spirits that like monitor the earth and they're running around doing their thing. They don't have to change. Like, the people just come and go and come and go and come.
Top Lobster
It's kind of wild when you think.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
About how like prevalent emo music became like in the. In the early 2000s. Like, you used to be really big into emo music, man. And like. But so it's interesting. You probably have fresh eyes to look at.
Matt Hatner
Who even knows what emo music is?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And you think about like, weird.
Top Lobster
Like.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like it'll come on sometimes. Shout out to Aquil. It'll. It'll come on sometimes times. And. And I'll listen to it. I go. It's such a strange. Because all it is. Is like this hyper wo. Is me ism. Like it's. It's.
Matt Hatner
What is he even talking about?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Emo music?
Top Lobster
Stuff. He used to listen music that's like.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What was me, dude, you know what emo music is? Used to jam out. I seen this. He had the.
Top Lobster
The.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
The hair over one eye. Remember the picture, Matt? The hair over one eye. And. And it's just a weird genre of music that it ever became popularized. Like, I listen to it now. Now there's one song in particular. This is for the. The chat. Simple plan, Perfect. Where it's just a dude crying about his dad. Like, he's like, I'm sorry I couldn't meet, you know, meet your standards, dad. And, and me and my wife make fun of it because it's probably like, you know, dad is getting mad that he keeps finding all these crispy socks and this kid keeps going like, oh, dad can't be perfect. Like, it's just a weird, inappropriate dude that's like 20 something years old with.
Top Lobster
Quiet tank top back to the Bible.
Matt Hatner
I like that. So they cried aloud and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets till there was a little cut. No. Till the blood gushed out upon them.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Damn.
Matt Hatner
And it came to pass when midday was passed and they prophesied until the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice that there was neither voice nor any to answer, nor any that regarded. So morning to evening they've been at this jumping up and down on the altar, cutting themselves 850 false prophets, bro.
Top Lobster
This is like. I mean, was it Daniel 11, Daniel 10, when the prince of Persia is holding up Gabriel? It's like it seems like in the other realm that might be what happens. We're held up, they're held up. But like they. You're not getting through, you know? Reminds me through this.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You ever see where the.
Top Lobster
That's kind of cool, right?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
The Hindus get together in the street and they slap their bodies with like these blades on chains. Yeah, it's like this bloodletting, sacrificial kind of spiritual thing. It's the same thing. Yeah, that's.
Top Lobster
That's a real thing.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You never seen that, dude, they're doing it in, in like England to an insane degree.
Top Lobster
It's horrific. Like they were like covered with blood. They're doing like micro abrasions on themselves. But like.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, cuz the blades aren't heavy.
Top Lobster
Covered with blood. And it's like, how could you look at this and go, I want that in the White House?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's what I'm saying, dude.
Matt Hatner
Address the chat real quick about my music choices. I did like, but I had a ton of music, dude. I actually had like a, like a pretty vast collection of CDs. I know you guys don't know what those are, but I had tons of Led Zeppelin and the Doors and Jimi Hendrix.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, so you're like super into like.
Matt Hatner
I was into like the Chili Peppers and Stone Temple Pilots, but like my jam was kind of more of like Primus was just like really good stuff. But I always got down with Pantera, Metallica.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Horny.
Top Lobster
No, no.
Matt Hatner
And then there was good hip hop back in that time too. The underground hip hop in the Bay Area was legit.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Go name a few.
Matt Hatner
You. But I threw everything away. Andre Nicotina was probably like the coolest.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You just made up a name right now.
Matt Hatner
You just said say the names.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You know what I. I realized? Sublime actually sucks.
Matt Hatner
Hunter's Point, like in San Francisco, that was like. That was just like a thing back then, dude. That was like legit underground music. Even like the Alcoholics. This dude knows what's up. Primus sucks. Well, I'm just saying like that thing. And then I love Credence Clearwater and like I seen a ton of shows in Cali, dude. I would go to Deftones. I. I'd go to. It was kind of cool. Kid Rock. Like I've seen a bunch of shows. When I got converted, I threw all my CDs away, bro. I had like Thousands of dollars worth of music, dude. I threw it all away because I realized that the occult was, like, steeped in the music that I was listening to. And so now it's weird, man. That stuff comes on the radio. I'm not like, oh, man, you got to turn it off. I'm not like that. But, like, the way it had influenced me originally, I had to get rid of. Of it and burn it, dude.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Keisha says, I miss. I miss Scott. I used to be big into Scott, but I realized, like, after a while was like, they all suck. Like, all the big SCA bands like Catch 22 and Street Light Manifesto, and he's talking about Sublime. Like, sublime. They all suck.
Matt Hatner
I don't know. Rancid was kind of cool. They were like, rancid sucks, too. What?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Rancid's like mainstream Scott, though, bro. What are you talking about? Like, that's not even, like, underground.
Matt Hatner
How did I know? Like, whatever I say, he's like, no, I got no.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like, they all do kind of suck big, you know? Like, it's like the same. Like, Scott is such a simplistic form of music.
Matt Hatner
Like, you know how simple music, dude. Like, ACDC had, like, a simple music, and it was okay. It didn't be technical. Just sound cool, man.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't like style of. They all sound the same. Like, every song sounds the same.
Top Lobster
I don't like it because white people do it. And the dance, you know, the Jamaican.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Thing, you know, like the scat dance or whatever it's called, where they do. Yeah, they're doing sky and they do the little.
Top Lobster
It feels like a larp. I do like it. I mean, sublime touches the line. But let's. Now we're. Now this is full blown band Winter. You've realized that.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, we just. Donation says, tell tank Top to stop talking so we can read the Bible. This is unbelievable. I don't like being reduced to my shirt.
Matt Hatner
Somebody bought another one.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What is that?
Matt Hatner
Let's go.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Where did that come from? No, no, I want that one. You stupid. You already drank a whole matcha.
Top Lobster
Thank you, Aubrey.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I can't believe you took that. Real big fish sucks, too. Thank you, Jim Bowman.
Top Lobster
Okay.
Matt Hatner
No, I've just kind of felt like it's okay. I went over this with Jess. I know you guys think Jess is my alter ego, but we do have a lot of, like, legit conversations, and I'm like, sweetie, I'm just worried that I'm, like, reading the Bible and I'm kind of just, like, joking too much. And I think the more we talk through it, it's like somebody already said in the chat was like, no, no, like the straight Bible. That's just straight Bible. And it's not banter and joking. And so, like, I don't know. I like to engage with the crowd and reach the crowd. And, like, if this is what people are tuning in for, that we talk about what they're talking about, well, and they're getting the word of God. And, like, that's what we're here for, is to preach the gospel and to reach people.
Top Lobster
If we did a. If we did a Bible study at your house.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, if we were invited.
Top Lobster
First off, if we were invited, it would be like a more straightforward Bible study. We wouldn't be taking these departures to banter.
Matt Hatner
If you guys do take these when you come to my house, even one time.
Top Lobster
No, I was asking. Yeah, you got to admit, all this.
Matt Hatner
AI, you get sacrifice sideways with the AI stuff.
Top Lobster
That's not sideways.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And you started that conversation.
Matt Hatner
So what'd you bring up then?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Literally nothing. You mentioned AI, and then you look to us like these guys are gonna bite. And then we bit. Is it good? What is it? Is it caramel?
Matt Hatner
Machia, give him some of that.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, I don't want it.
Matt Hatner
You're a soccer for the drink.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He likes the sugary drink, though. He does like it. It's fine to keep the sweets away from me. It's probably for the best.
Matt Hatner
He's hungry.
Top Lobster
I don't want him. His mouth on my mouth.
Matt Hatner
No, dude, drink from the other side of the cup.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, we're not gonna do that. Blender bottoms are good, though. They are good.
Top Lobster
This is where. Apparently that's where all the stuff goes.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't know. It's like, whatever.
Top Lobster
We blended up. Good stuff.
Matt Hatner
Did you drink a pastino, a matcha, and now a blender?
Ad Voice
Yeah, he's.
Matt Hatner
He's all.
Top Lobster
He's all.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He's all jacked up.
Top Lobster
You're destroying me, guys.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Come to the standard coffee shop, drink coffee.
Top Lobster
No, listen. Different time, different place. If you want straight Bible, you can get straight Bible, Nick.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Icarus Top slurping that Delicious.
Top Lobster
In the show called straight Bible. If you want NDS banter, you're gonna come here. If you want a private Bible study, do it yourself. But it would turn out just different. But this is the show that we're.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Doing, so we're giving you the Bible in as many different forms as possible.
Top Lobster
Deal with it. Here we go.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Can you keep reading, dude?
Top Lobster
I feel like he's just staring Right through me.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I can see his eyes are gone.
Matt Hatner
What's the deal with the thumbnail? Did you guys do something inappropriate?
Top Lobster
What thumbnail?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No.
Matt Hatner
Why is she asking? What's the deal with the thumbnail?
Top Lobster
I don't know.
Matt Hatner
Guys, with the thumbnail.
Top Lobster
Oh, I know what I put.
Matt Hatner
Oh, great.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Thumbnails.
Top Lobster
It was this one. It's.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's us melting.
Top Lobster
Melting.
Matt Hatner
What is that?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You never remember those commercials where it's like, this is your brain on inappropriate drugs.
Top Lobster
And then it's like, honestly, I chose. It was just the one that was there, so I put it up. It's just something. If you guys don't like the thumbnails, I could just put.
Matt Hatner
Well, no, no, I'm just glad it wasn't something inappropriate.
Top Lobster
No, I mean, they're going to be inappropriate. They. They range from, like, plus 50 to us as toilet bowls. But if you guys just want. I could just put that logo of the nds.
Matt Hatner
Could you do something that's, like, similar to the story, though? Like maybe have, like, you guys on fire?
Top Lobster
It will be. So when it. When we re. Release it, it's going to be more topical because I never know what we're going to cover. Sometimes it could be, like, fair point. Deeper into this. Sometimes we could be talking about Wiggles.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Could you do more work?
Top Lobster
Yeah, no, no, I will.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Could you do more Doing a ton of work?
Matt Hatner
Shout out to the Raven to rag him. And he's got the tank top on. He's kind of going trashy right now, but he's been doing good for, like a week of just crushing the work, man. I've been totally impressed.
Top Lobster
You guys are getting so much free podcast right now. Okay, let's. Let's do Back to the Bible straight Bible man. Come on.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Banter, banter.
Matt Hatner
And Elijah said, okay, so there's this giant crowd, 850 fake prophets. They're jumping up and down. They're cutting till the blood gushes out. It's gone from morning till evening. People would, like, can't even pay attention that long. Today. They would have already left. And Elijah said, unto all the people, come near. Come near unto me. And all the people came near unto him. And he repaired the altar of the Lord that was broken down.
Top Lobster
I'm thinking about that, too.
Matt Hatner
That's what prophets do, bro.
Top Lobster
Well, think about. Think about, like, the. The decree and just the logistics alone. During a famine, these people are hungry. You got to get a million people to this mountain. And Ahab must have been like, you're. You're to going Going you are going to the mountain and be there all day.
Matt Hatner
Yeah.
Top Lobster
That's crazy.
Matt Hatner
Yes. It's not a fairy tale that. Yeah, you're right.
Top Lobster
Sounds like a bad time for the people.
Matt Hatner
Yeah. Potentially a bad time. Like, you're there and it's like all day. You're like, yo, they're cutting themselves. But like, did they. Is there any blood?
Top Lobster
Like, you gotta bring your kids and they're crying, like.
Matt Hatner
But any moment fire is gonna come out of heaven.
Top Lobster
Maybe they don't know what's gonna happen.
Matt Hatner
That's what they're thinking.
Top Lobster
Is that a showdown?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
This.
Top Lobster
It's kind of cool, actually.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So he repairs to say anything because I don't want to.
Matt Hatner
Matt.
Top Lobster
Today we would do. This would be a reality TV show. What happened here?
Matt Hatner
Like, you wonder if that's what's kind of pulled back the whole like, re. Like the miraculous man is because the. Everything's so fake and there's no real ones left. Everything is just done in such a fake way for money and for personal gain.
Top Lobster
Imagine if they did this today. They'd have to be like, we need a 30 minute break to set up a different shot at different angles.
Matt Hatner
Singles.
Top Lobster
So the prophets of battle. Could you guys wipe off real quick again?
Matt Hatner
I like you on extra caffeine, dude. I like this.
Top Lobster
This has gotta stop.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I've been, I've been laughing because I'm watching how much he enjoys it is very fun.
Top Lobster
He loves those.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He's like, this is delicious.
Matt Hatner
You know, he comes in his vibes like, oh, just give me a black coffee.
Top Lobster
Yes.
Matt Hatner
That's why he's like all into the sugar drinks, dude.
Top Lobster
Why I only once, like, please just give me the.
Matt Hatner
No, I love you like this, dude. I wish the raven would tone it up a little bit. He's just kind of.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, I, you know, I got it and I, I, I've just had a lot of caffeine.
Top Lobster
He's bleeping and blapping.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
My adrenal gland is.
Top Lobster
Let's read.
Matt Hatner
And Elijah took 12 stones according to the number of the tribes of the sons of Jacob. I know this is like trigger stuff for people under whom the word of the Lord came saying, israel shall be thy name. So that's how he describes him. Elijah took 12 stones according to the number of the the 12 tribes. Tribes of the sons of Jacob, unto whom the word of the Lord came saying, israel shall be thy name. And with the stones he built an altar in the name of the Lord. If nothing else. Even if you hate Israel, I think you have to be.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Wow.
Matt Hatner
Now, I'm not saying you. I'm saying whoever. You have to be intrigued. Dude, this entire story is about the nation of Israel. Jesus is from Israel. Like, the whole story is Jewish people, like, everything. Old Testament, New Testament. It's all these stories of Israel. So at the very least, I would think you'd be very intrigued by this nation. Very intrigued by them.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Sure.
Matt Hatner
At the very least. And with the stones, he built an altar in the name of the Lord. And he made a trench about the altar as great as would contain two measures of seed. And he put the wood in order and cut the bowl in pieces and laid them on the wood and said, fill four barrels with water and pour it on the burnt sacrifice and on the wood.
Top Lobster
Very disrespectful. And they had water there, too.
Matt Hatner
How? Thought it was a drought.
Top Lobster
Their last bit of water.
Matt Hatner
This is crazy. Why are you pouring water on a sacrifice that you're supposed to light on fire?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
How come nobody's like, yo, that's the water. It's not hot water.
Matt Hatner
I don't know what that's a reference to, but I don't know.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm saying they're in a drought.
Top Lobster
They're probably thirsty.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And there's like. And you're taking the water that there's not a lot of.
Matt Hatner
Yes.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And. And you're screwing up this dude thing. Like, what about that? What are you doing, dog?
Matt Hatner
Yes. Take all that into account. Don't read it like a fairy tale.
Top Lobster
This drawing is very accurate. We have.
Matt Hatner
That's why we fixed it eight times.
Top Lobster
Yes.
Matt Hatner
You made it biblically inaccurate. And then we tweaked it. And then you made it a little more biblically accurate. Then we tweaked it again.
Top Lobster
Yeah, they got the cuts, they got the water. They got. There's not 12 stones. Well, it could be. We're doing all right.
Matt Hatner
What are you doing with the water?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What are you doing with that water?
Top Lobster
Yo, man, we. We thirsty. We thirsty.
Matt Hatner
Fill four barrels with water. I wonder if Four Barrel Coffee is named after that. It could be San Francisco. Fill four barrels with water and pour it on the burnt sacrifice and on the wood. And he said, do it the second time. And they did it the second time. And he said, do it the third time.
Top Lobster
And nobody's like, yo, well, that's actually 12 barrels.
Matt Hatner
And they did it the third time.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
12 barrels of water. How big are these barrels, dude?
Top Lobster
Dog, for the 12 tribes of Israel.
Matt Hatner
Oh, there he is. There's my guy with the insight.
Top Lobster
I love dog. It's a coffee.
Matt Hatner
Honestly, I love when you guys, like, chime in with insight.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Might be the matcha.
Matt Hatner
Because you guys haven't been tainted by, like, bad preaching and stuff for, like, years and years and years.
Top Lobster
No, I have been.
Matt Hatner
We've talked about it before. That, like, weak preaching is like allergy shots. That's just. They give you a low dose of the real thing. Just over and over and over and over until the real thing has no effect on you. You guys haven't been affected like that.
Top Lobster
It's because I'm stupid.
Matt Hatner
Great insight they had.
Top Lobster
This has happened to me, and I've. I've interjected many times and go, oh, it's like this. And they go, talk. No, don't.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Shut up.
Top Lobster
And I go, I don't like you. And. And then I do what I do that.
Matt Hatner
Dude.
Top Lobster
It's happened to me from a pastor itself. I've. I've. I spoke about, like, Ezekiel 28 with him, and he was like, it doesn't mean that. Stupid. Get out of my office. And I was like, all right, my bad.
Matt Hatner
No, I mean, well, to be totally.
Top Lobster
Honest, like, this is so good.
Matt Hatner
I knew you're. Yeah, I love him.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like, nobody says. This is, like, not fair, though. It's like, just keep.
Matt Hatner
Well, hold on. We got to keep reading.
Top Lobster
He's like, I'm going to take.
Matt Hatner
Oh, I like that.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, I'm saying, like, you know, oh.
Matt Hatner
That they're not buying you a drink. Will somebody buy.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Nobody needs.
Matt Hatner
I'm good.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't need any more. He's guaming. Dude. Look, I'm saying. Nobody is saying. This is unfair. Number one, you just use 12 barrels of water on this dude's altar.
Top Lobster
We need a coffee cam. Like a camera to show the coffee.
Matt Hatner
Get this guy. Get both these guys. Guys, more coffee. No, no, no.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We don't need any more coffee, please. But. But also the fact that, like, this is supposed to be a compet. It's like a kind of a competition, right? It's like, yo, call. Call your. Call your pagan homies. What?
Top Lobster
Yeah, honestly, it's a little bit of the coffee. It's a little bit of the ashwagandha, which I did take last night.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, which means you got sleep.
Top Lobster
Yeah. So apparently you just snort it and it works.
Matt Hatner
We were, like, so on track, and we were talking about good things, and then you just f around and, like, bring that in. No, I drank it really good.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Sometimes he says, like, you know the whole word.
Top Lobster
Honestly, this is what I'm. What you're dealing with right now, Matt, is, you've given me a lot of caffeine. You're gonna get gold.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Then after the show, he's like, bye.
Top Lobster
You're gonna get good stuff. But that filter that existed in my brain is no longer there.
Matt Hatner
I like that. Raven always says, if you hold back, like, on. He's like, matt, be careful what you tell us, because, like, you can't hold back on a podcast.
Top Lobster
Oh.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
If you tell us secrets, we're gonna say it on the show.
Matt Hatner
Don't say it. He's right. Don't hold back, Tom, why are you holding back?
Top Lobster
Straight course we have a lot of secrets.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, yeah, I'm full of secrets, dude.
Matt Hatner
Okay. The water ran round about the altar, and he filled the trench also with water. So not just, like, the altar itself. All the woods on fire, the rocks, Everything's on fire. And the trench around it is soaking full of water. That's. That's what that is right there. Can we see this?
Top Lobster
Hold on. Yeah.
Matt Hatner
All this water is in the trench around it and in the trench around it. It says 850 versus 1. You never saw that?
Top Lobster
No, no.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm missing it because I'm. I. Elijah is the one that's saying, pour these barrels.
Top Lobster
It's like a mouse.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Okay? So Elijah's like, yo, this is how much the Lord crushes. Like, go ahead, douse this well.
Top Lobster
He's like, all the wood.
Matt Hatner
You're gonna see why. You're gonna see why.
Top Lobster
Isn't this, like, a call back to the woman? And he's like, yo, I know you got a little bit of green, but make those cakes.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
This is the same thing.
Top Lobster
Fresh water. Put it in there.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, yeah, kind of.
Matt Hatner
You guys are the best. I just want you guys to read the Bible every day.
Top Lobster
Grabbed on them after. Oh, okay.
Matt Hatner
Reduce the coffee and take.
Top Lobster
Reduce, reduce. Okay, okay, okay.
Matt Hatner
And it came to pass at the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice that Elijah the prophet came near and said, the Lord God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel. This is what I'm saying. How do I do this with, like, your crowd? That's, like, so anti Israel, Dude, Our crowd crushes.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Don't say that about our crowd.
Matt Hatner
This is how God refers to himself.
Top Lobster
Have you heard the song Same God?
Matt Hatner
The Lord God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel. Let it be known this day that thou art God in Israel, Israel, and that thy. I am thy servant and that I have done all these things at thy word. So when the Raven's like, what? Why is he doing that? I can't believe all water.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, I missed.
Matt Hatner
He did it all at that Word of God, man.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
The pagan homos that were doing it.
Matt Hatner
No, no, it was Elijah doing it. And at some point, God and Elijah had this conversation, and God said, hey, bro, do it like this.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
God's like, born all.
Matt Hatner
And that's. And that's what's all wrapped up in the shirt, man. You have. You have all those details in the.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Story by the shirt of Tallahassee.
Top Lobster
I'm afraid that I'm going to drink too much coffee and then need it.
Matt Hatner
I have done all these things at thy word. Hear me, O Lord. Hear me that. That this people may know that thou art the Lord God and that thou has turned their heart back again. Dude, this is heavy, bro. So God is turning their heart back. Back, Right? These people have gone astray from God. Like, we were just studying in the book of Jude. Like, didn't we just go over this topic that people go astray? People are covenant people.
Top Lobster
But he hasn't even set it on fire yet. He's just like, this is what's going to happen. Watch this.
Matt Hatner
Then the fire of the Lord fell.
Top Lobster
There you go. And then it happens.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Fell. So it just comes from the sky.
Top Lobster
Yes. Yeah. I mean, it's so biblically accurate. It's crazy.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And is it really biblically accurate?
Matt Hatner
This is all biblically accurate. If we can get the cameras to go, it'll actually show it. Look, fire's coming out of heaven. There's Elijah. This is the dudes all cutting themselves. This is the water down below.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Doesn't even matter that it was all.
Matt Hatner
Done at thy word.
Top Lobster
Huh? Yeah.
Matt Hatner
Which. Whatever. We don't have a way to sell you guys shirts, so. We're not trying to sell shirts. I'm just trying to come to the standard coffee shop link or anything.
Top Lobster
Oh, by the way, I'll be in New York on the 13th of November. So this. There are things called planes. You can go to Lady Lake, Florida. That's true.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You can come and hang out.
Top Lobster
Yeah, I won't be here for a couple of days. It'll be all right. I'll be.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Are you gonna go see Frank? You should tell Frank you'll be in the area.
Top Lobster
I'm gonna go see nobody. I'm dreading it, but it's fine.
Matt Hatner
Shocked to hear that. Then the fire of the Lord fell and consumed the burnt sacrifice in the wood and the stones and the dust and licked up the water that was in the trench. And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces and they Said the Lord. Lord, he is the God. The Lord. He is the God.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I love that. Like, so many times throughout the Bible, if people are just, like, bearing witness to some unbelievable stuff and they're like, dude, God is that like, he is the God.
Top Lobster
Well, I mean, listen. Yeah, you forget.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, yeah, but it happens, like, over and over again.
Matt Hatner
We know there's lowercase g gods, but in Isaiah, he revert. He God, refers to himself as I am God and there is no other. Right? So, like, he makes it very clear. Like, yeah, there's lowercase g gods, but I am the God. God. And that's what all this is about, is like, hey, covenant people, I know you've claimed the name of Christ. I know you've claimed the name of the God, but you haven't lived accordingly. So let's just get this thing back on track. You serve God and mammon. Like, let's get the mammon out of you. Can't serve both.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Can't have the mammon.
Matt Hatner
And Elijah said unto Ahab.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It kind of does.
Matt Hatner
Elijah said unto Ahab, get thee up and eat and drink.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Got a set of mammons on you.
Matt Hatner
Not funny, man.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Like, there's a super serious thing he said. Mammon sounds like butt cheeks.
Top Lobster
Sounds like the God of butt cheeks. Like, if you saw a statue of mammon and it had, like, big, big.
Matt Hatner
Mammon is like monetary gain. It's like money and the things you get with money. Yeah, it's materialism, which we're at the core of. Of all the humans who have ever lived on the planet, like mammon and materialism. This is a very materialistic society. There's the chick that said, like, I'm a material girl for the material world or something.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, shout out, Madonna.
Top Lobster
She's a whore.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
2.
Matt Hatner
Think about how crazy it is now, dude. How materialistic this society is.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Do you think that?
Top Lobster
Doesn't it sound like the word blap, blap, blap, blap?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Do you think Madonna's a man?
Top Lobster
No, stop that.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Egi like, elite gender inversion. You don't think she's a man?
Top Lobster
We have shirts for that that you can buy.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's right.
Top Lobster
All right, let's keep reading.
Matt Hatner
Inappropriate.
Top Lobster
Very.
Matt Hatner
And Elijah said unto Ahab, get thee up and eat and drink, for there is a sound of abundance of rain. Remember, it hasn't rained in three and a half years. He said it won't rain according to my word. Now he says it's going to rain.
Top Lobster
It's kind of cool. So God gave him the Ability to direct. Like, direct. He gave him the responsibility. Like, if it's. If it's his word. God was like, when you say so, like, I'm, like, delegating to. When you say, is that what that means?
Matt Hatner
You're touching on an incredibly heavy topic, but yes, dude.
Top Lobster
David, Tank Top, pay attention.
Matt Hatner
He's not paying attention.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm paying attention. Your eyes are closed behind your shades and you're talking about me.
Top Lobster
It's not good, Matt.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
God, man. No, no, put them back down. It's better when they're down. As soon as you lifted them up, I could see the grumpy.
Matt Hatner
It's kind of clear. It's kind of clear. It's kind of still bright. But it's. But it's clear.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'm just saying do it because you look grumpy.
Top Lobster
We're going to podcast until you're better.
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David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
We're going to podcast all night.
Top Lobster
Okay. All right, here we go.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, wait. Shout out to makabala for the $10 donation. Who's says cheers? It's on Rumble. We don't have the ability to pick it up. Nancy's not even paying attention.
Matt Hatner
She's been doing the whole time. The chick.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's a dude. Maka. Makalabala. Ma ma. On rumble. Thank you. $10.
Top Lobster
Cheers. Cheers. Thank you very much. Appreciate that. It's not 500, but it's nice.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Don't misgender our. Our audience.
Top Lobster
500 is a lot of. It's a lot of Guam.
Matt Hatner
500 bucks. Bucks.
Top Lobster
No.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah, another 500 donation.
Top Lobster
No, no, no, no. Not true. Okay, okay.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Can you continue, please?
Top Lobster
And Elijah said that clutch.
Matt Hatner
Dude, the guy don't say clutch. No, that's legit, man. Like, we're gonna get a better camera, bro.
Top Lobster
I feel like there's a lot going on. I feel like there's, like, weird.
Matt Hatner
That's caffeine.
Top Lobster
Behind the scenes things. Yeah, I'm seeing into the behind the scenes of it. I don't. I don't know.
Matt Hatner
So Elijah said unto Ahab, get thee up and eat and drink, for there's a sound of abundance, of rain. Not just rain like we haven't had, but an abundance. So Ahab went up to eat and to drink. And Elijah went up to the top of Carmel Hell, and he cast himself down upon the earth and put his face between his knees.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Wait, okay. All right.
Matt Hatner
This is Elijah praying. Yeah, this dude goes to mountaintops. I know you guys don't want to talk about this, but definitely spiritual high places. Definitely Old Testament. There's an argument to be made for it, even still now, but absolutely. Old Testament, getting to the high place.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah. Alice Crowley was a homosexual, but he went to, like, Mount Everest.
Top Lobster
He was a mountain climb. But this is also why the UN and Israel have taken over mountain Mount Hermon. There's, like, spiritual high places. They're doing stuff. They're doing stuff. CERN is at a very high elevation. They're doing stuff at high places.
Matt Hatner
Underground.
Top Lobster
No, but it's geographically.
Matt Hatner
He's jacked on the caffeine.
Top Lobster
Yeah, dog, I just. I might have just made that up. Chad, check that out. But we're talking about. Yeah, all right.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, I haven't read your rumble rant.
Top Lobster
What?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
My baby mama ho ass. Because you said very inappropriate things. That's his name. Name. Yeah, and I'm not going to read it because it's very inappropriate.
Matt Hatner
So Ahab went up to eat and drink, and Elijah went up to the top of Carmel, and he cast himself down upon the earth and put his face between his knees and said to his servant, go up now. Look towards the sea. And he went up and looked and said, there's nothing. And he said, go again seven times. And it came to pass at the seventh time that he said, behold, there arises, there ariseth a little cloud out of the sea, like a man's hand. And he said, go up. Say unto Ahab, prepare thy chariot. Chariot. And get thee down, that the rain stop thee not. And it came to pass in the meanwhile that the heaven was black with clouds and wind and there was a great rain. And Ahab rode and went to Jezreel. And the hand of the Lord was on Elijah. And he girded up his loins and ran before Ahab to the entrance of Jezreel.
Top Lobster
Okay, so Merkel talks about this scripture a lot. 1846. And the hand of the Lord was on Elijah, and he girded up his loins. So he just, like, pulled up his skirt and ran before Ahab to the entrance of Jezreel. So he ran.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, clearly on, like, on horseback.
Top Lobster
And he beat him there.
Matt Hatner
Correct.
Top Lobster
What are you talking about?
Matt Hatner
Talking about the supernatural, which I'm trying to say. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. So just like you're like, wtf? Isn't reality the Kardashians and that?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
They never say that.
Matt Hatner
And that they're going to steal all the stuff from Walmart in a couple days. And then whatever the other people said on Twitter. No, that's not reality. Reality is the word of God. And the more you read it, the more it shapes your view of reality. Reality, and that's what it means to have faith, is that your view of reality is the word of God. Like whatever. We live in the Slipper King and Denny's and Carabas and all the stuff like that's fine, we live within that system, but that's not reality. That's just this weird little time that we're in Reality is the word of God and everything going on in the scene and the unseen realm, which includes the miraculous and the supernatural.
Top Lobster
Wait, when does he kill these guys?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Dude, I didn't know he kills these guys.
Top Lobster
My bad. Come on, man. And it actually makes a lot of sense. I guess so, right? It looks like he's got some weird supernatural power right now. This dude is.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
He's.
Top Lobster
He's drank three bottom of the blender coffees and a matcha and he is running supernaturally fast.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Yeah.
Matt Hatner
Wait, wait, wait. But did we miss first40 you're talking about when he killed them all?
Top Lobster
Yeah, I guess we did.
Matt Hatner
Elijah said unto them, take the prophets of baal, let not one of them escape. And they took them and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kidron and they slew them there.
Top Lobster
Oh, there you go, man.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's just like really quick.
Matt Hatner
Missed that, bro. How many of were there?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
There was a lot.
Matt Hatner
850. So I know that everybody's like, oh, yeah, this is a great, like Sunday school story. Just, just like the flood. The same thing with the flood. It's like, no, they killed the entire planet. Like, yeah, this is a great Sunday school story, but also they kill all of the false prophets. There's a war. There's a war going on. And so sometimes people don't like what people are doing, but it's a war. So it's like this team against this team. Like, oh, they did this shady thing thing. They're at war. They're trying to kill this team. Like that's what's going on.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
So, so Elijah tells them to kill the, the prophets of Paul, but does.
Matt Hatner
He engage in any of the great point. So he's saying, look, you guys brought this on yourselves. You worshiping the false gods, now you're going to deal with it. You're going to kill them all.
Top Lobster
Okay, and, and slew them. Okay, so maybe Elijah didn't kill them himself.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's crazy because it says and took.
Matt Hatner
Them and they took them and Elijah brought them down to the brook, kid.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Oh, and so Elijah did do them, slew them there. Because it says, and Elijah brought them down.
Top Lobster
So they probably just bound him and he was just probably cutting his off maybe.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Either that or he was just supernaturally fast.
Top Lobster
Well, that's what they were. That's what they were supposed to do. Let me ask you something, and this might be a little bit. He's gonna ask you something disrespectful towards the Bible.
Matt Hatner
I'm. All right.
Top Lobster
Could we talk to the blue letter Bible people? And maybe I don't want to talk to them anymore. Well, that's fair, but could we, like, why isn't there a book of Elijah instead of, like, in between?
Matt Hatner
That's not a blue letter Bible issue, bro. That's.
Top Lobster
They can't do that.
Matt Hatner
The creator of the universe.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Shout out to the guy who emailed us and said that he wants to offer up his own labor to make a standard Bible app.
Top Lobster
I don't think we're allowed to do that, though.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, I just wanted to say that.
Top Lobster
But he should. He should have his own book.
Matt Hatner
Who, Elijah? He does. He's got 1 kings, he's got 2 kings. He shows up on the Mount Transfiguration, which you alluded to. Alluded to. Yeah. He actually sees the Messiah, which all of them wanted. All of these Old Testament prophets, they would have gave anything to be with the Messiah.
Top Lobster
It's just not fair.
Matt Hatner
Shows up and hangs out with the Messiah. Like, he's written about James. Like, he's alluded to a lot, bro.
Top Lobster
Yeah, but John's got two books. He's got. No. Named after his book.
Matt Hatner
John the Baptist is even referred to as Elijah. Like, it's talked about the spirit and power of Elijah. Like, bro, he's a major, major part of the scripture.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Shout out to whoop my baby mama.
Matt Hatner
Ho.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Donation.
Top Lobster
I just think that, like, David King David should have his own book. Elijah should. But, I mean, maybe that's. I'm just.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Well, then you'd have to go back, dude.
Matt Hatner
If you're. If you're referenced in the word of God, that's a big deal, bro.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You know, he says, I want to address this. He says, sorry, I didn't realize it was inappropriate. I just want to share my love with Matt, that's all. And so we'll allow that. Very good chat. Loves you.
Top Lobster
We got through it, Matt. And we Only only took 2 and a half hours.
Matt Hatner
Like this guy's statement, the creator of the universe named. Named all the books. Interesting. That's a. That's a good statement because I see what he's saying. Like, that the Word of God. We don't argue that it's inspired, but exactly how it got put together. We argue if that's inspired. So that's a fair point. That's a fair point.
Top Lobster
It got put together.
Matt Hatner
Reading of the books is a fair point.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
The order in which they're placed.
Matt Hatner
Sure, all of the above. But the. But the main thing for us is just read all of it.
Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah. I'm just saying I think this guy deserves his own name on the book. It should be the book of Elijah and a couple of chapters tell this guy's story. The same thing with David. Daniel got his own God.
Matt Hatner
Aren't like that. They're not like, oh, man, I need something named after me so I could be a big shot.
Top Lobster
No, I get it.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But I'm getting a drink named after us at the shop.
Top Lobster
No, but stop it.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Can I get. You know, somebody calls up and they say, get top one, top lobster.
Top Lobster
I have a feeling that there's going to be a bad crash from this for me.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's not going to be good.
Top Lobster
I just feel it. I feel it.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What would it be? What would you do that. A top lobster drink and a raven drink.
Top Lobster
Don't that.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What would it be?
Top Lobster
No, we don't want the tank top.
Matt Hatner
We're definitely naming one to Tank Top. But yeah, because the new seasonal menu comes out December 1st, so one of them will definitely be the tank top.
Top Lobster
Can we make it a diet drink?
Matt Hatner
It should be. I don't like free.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's not good. Can we wrap this up? I have another show at 7pm oh, you know what?
Top Lobster
It makes a lot of crash that.
Matt Hatner
Should we crash this show?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, you can't crash my show.
Matt Hatner
I can give you crash my show. Joe, I'm trying to, like, be serious about straight Bible and you're in the corner, like, making jokes.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
You said something that was funny. It made me laugh. I don't remember what it was, but it made me laugh.
Top Lobster
I think what. What we. What we saw here was a little bit of David, a conserving energy. And this is what I was saying.
Matt Hatner
Before, dude, I got yawning. What do you mean, conserving energies? Falling asleep.
Top Lobster
Yeah, he's falling asleep because he's like, I got a more important show later.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
That's not. It's not a more important show.
Top Lobster
That's the thing.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
3. You know, when you're gonna.
Top Lobster
When you're gonna play music, music for God, when you're gonna do podcasts for God about God, you have to give it your all and this guy is worried about talking about Ed Gein later on the Raven.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
No, that's only gonna be like the first. What I'm doing is just doing a call in show for the chat and the people that support us so that we could bring this community together. That's what I'm doing.
Top Lobster
All right, guys. Matt, I think you should leave it. Leave him with the final word.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Say something.
Top Lobster
What are we saying here?
Matt Hatner
Okay, well, if I could say anything I wanted right now, I would say you totally could really consider this story. Like, really think about what's going on here. The covenant people have gone astray. It's kind of intriguing that we're picking up in this book of Elijah, because I said, let's go into Matthew. And then we were all like, going to go into Matthew. And then at the last minute, top's like, no, no, no. We'll do the life of Elijah. And so here we are, we're talking about the covenant people who have gone astray or, dare I say apostatized, right? Which was exactly the same point in the book of Jude. If y' all watched the straight Bible episode today, it's about the book of Jude, and we only got through through verses one through four, right? And it's the story of apostasy is what the book of Jude is about. It's about people who were on track and then they go astray, they fall away. So let's not be that. Like, let's be people that go hard after God, that go hard into the Scripture, that take notes, that study the Scripture, that want to know God, not people that just want to read the Bible to win debates or read the Bible, to have perfect theology and perfect doctrine, and not just to make sure I'm right and you're wrong. Let's not be those people. Let's people who read the word of God to know God and to fellowship with God and to learn the character of God so that we can hear his voice and be guided in our real life. Because we have real life stories that are going on right now. We have our lives, and we want to be guided by God and we want to know how to hear his voice and be guided by Him. And we're going to get that by being faithful and loyal to him and reading the scripture, praying and getting intimate with Him. So let's all do that. Let's all do that.
Top Lobster
It's kind of interesting that think not to. That was the part not to spike your ending. But, like, when David's writing his songs, like, does he Dancing. Does he know that this is going to be in the Bible later? You know what I mean? He's just doing his thing.
Matt Hatner
Great question. Great point. Probably not. Probably. Probably doesn't know.
Top Lobster
I'm not saying there would be another Bible written, but I don't know what's.
Matt Hatner
Dude, I like you on the caffeine, man. I.
Top Lobster
We got to go.
Matt Hatner
I don't even know what that question was, but I like.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I like when he's on camera. Caffeine.
Matt Hatner
Yeah.
Top Lobster
No, I'm not saying, like, they're not going to write another Bible, but what you're doing now is probably significant. I think that's what you're saying, right?
Matt Hatner
I'm not saying that what I'm doing is significant. I'm just saying that, like, people need to be going hard after God. That's all I'm saying.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't like what you've done. My wife just said a tank top. Don't forget to get a rotisserie chicken and pumpkins. This is messed up, man. More money's coming in.
Matt Hatner
Where's the other tank top? What?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I'll send another. What is going on? If tank top puts on a baggy sweatshirt. I don't have a baggy sweatshirt.
Top Lobster
You got one on the wall.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Dude, I am sweating. I can't put a tank top on. But you just sent another.
Matt Hatner
Get the 10 bucks, bro.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Fine. Give me the sweater.
Top Lobster
Yeah, dude, we got. We got families to feed out here.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Got boogers on it.
Top Lobster
Does it? Yeah. Oh, Matt.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I see Matt. Cuz he gets his and he goes. And that's how he wipes his boogers.
Top Lobster
Yeah. You're really going to do this?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
I don't know, man. That is not true.
Matt Hatner
No, you said that you wanted to get another 10 bucks in because we need the camera, so whatever, let's do it. He's not above that.
Top Lobster
Oh, yeah, that's the stuff. Okay. I think we should. I don't think they're gonna send the money, but.
Matt Hatner
Yes, they are. She sent it. She said sending right now. Give me a minute.
Top Lobster
Oh, wow. Okay. All right. Well, he's wearing the baggy hood hoodie. It does have snot on it. Look at that on the side.
Matt Hatner
Yeah, it's.
Top Lobster
That's not definitely.
Matt Hatner
Wait, is there snot on it?
Top Lobster
Yeah, it's only a little white mark right there. I.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Right here.
Matt Hatner
Clean it up. If you thought there was snot on it.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
What do you want me to do, Scrape it off with my fingernail? Yeah.
Top Lobster
I mean, you could lick it.
Matt Hatner
Just give it friends do.
Top Lobster
Well, this has been a great episode of not so Straight Bible. I. I mean, we should. We should get a better name for it.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
This isn't straight street Bible. He did street Bible.
Matt Hatner
Ours don't we just call it Bible study with Matt Hatner?
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
It's called Bible Banter.
Top Lobster
I'm pretty sure that we've already like.
Matt Hatner
I don't like that name.
Top Lobster
We've determined that this is not a Bible study.
Matt Hatner
Yes, it is. You called it hybrid Bible study in the beginning. And I said, what do you mean hybrid? And you said, well, can you fix.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
The camera looking at me?
Matt Hatner
But we're going to say a bunch of stuff. And then I'm like, well, yeah, that's just a Bible study.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
But then you fix the camera so it's not just looking at me.
Matt Hatner
But then I got in on the first one. One. And I was like, oh, okay. This is a hybrid Bible study.
Top Lobster
That's what I'm saying.
Matt Hatner
This banter is, like, on another level.
Top Lobster
Not necessarily a Bible study. We're just waiting for these $10 to roll in.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
And I send that $10.
Matt Hatner
Did you see the chick that said, we have the same haircut? Me and Raven have the same haircut. The female was saying, her and Raven have the same haircut.
Top Lobster
Oh, yeah, he does have a little bit of.
Matt Hatner
I love that face. I can't wait for his show. Dude, he crushed it with his.
Top Lobster
Thank you.
David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
There it is. Thanks, Chanel. Julio.
Top Lobster
All right, bye, guys. Sam.
Podcast: Nephilim Death Squad (TopLobsta Productions)
Date: November 2, 2025
Hosts: Top Lobsta, David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Guest: Matt Hatner
Location: Standard Coffee Shop, Florida
In this engaging, banter-filled Bible study, hosts Top Lobsta and Raven, joined by recurring guest Matt Hatner, take listeners through the early story of Elijah the Tishbite (1 Kings 17–18), analyzing themes of faith, seclusion, miracles, idolatry, and God’s power over false prophets. The discussion blends deep biblical insight, practical application, and irreverent humor, offering both theological reflection and cultural commentary.
Elijah’s Profile & Call to Action
Faith in the Face of Scarcity
Modern Christianity Critique
On Miracles & Doubt
Mount Carmel Showdown
Application to Listeners
Meta-Banter About the Show
Language/Tone: Irreverent, humorous, self-deprecating, yet deeply invested in serious biblical exploration. Matt provides biblical seriousness while TopLobsta and Raven keep it lively and unpredictable.
Value for The Uninitiated:
This episode offers depth and real study for Bible newcomers as well as seasoned readers, especially those interested in how ancient scripture still speaks to contemporary culture. The hosts and guest don’t shy away from hard questions, encourage honest doubt, and inject fun into faith—a rare mix for a Bible study podcast.
Suggested “Don’t Miss” Segment:
[127:05 – 153:01] — The Elijah vs. Baal showdown, fire from heaven, and the crowd’s repentance—the climactic high point with biblical drama and lively commentary.
Final Message:
“Let’s be people who read the word of God to know God ... so we can hear his voice and be guided in our real life. Get faithful, get loyal, get intimate with Him.” — Matt Hatner (165:49)