Nephilim Death Squad – Elijah Wanted to Die | NDS Bible Study w/ Mattt Hepner
Host: TopLobsta (B), The Raven (C)
Guest: Mattt Hepner (A)
Date: November 25, 2025
Main Theme / Purpose of the Episode
This episode centers on a raw, wide-ranging Bible study between TopLobsta, Raven, and guest Mattt Hepner, weaving the dramatic story of Elijah and Ahab in 1 Kings into a broader conversation about biblical leadership, spiritual authority, generational curses, the nature of prophecy, and cultural commentary—all filtered through the podcast’s trademark blend of irreverence, conspiracy theorizing, and deep scriptural reference. The studies on Elijah, Ahab, and Jezebel serve as a springboard for spirited discussion about the dangers of weak leadership, deception (in both ancient Israel and today), and the complexities of God's dealings with humanity.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Community & Sponsors Banter
- (01:39–08:20) Friendly ribbing, shoutouts, coffee shop plugs, and irreverent sponsorship chatter set the conversational, open tone.
- (03:53) Discussion of business, support, and inside jokes (“We could sell them into slavery... Our listeners.”).
2. On “Secret Missions” from Jesus & Biblical Precedents
- (08:45–14:15) The hosts reflect on stories of children claiming secret missions from Jesus, comparing them to alien abduction narratives (“Galactic Federation of homosexuals”) and questioning the biblical basis for “secret missions.”
- Quote (10:14, The Raven): “When is anybody in the Bible given a mission and then told, don't tell anybody about this shit?”
- Mattt Hepner counters that sometimes Jesus does tell people to keep certain miracles quiet, but transparency (“kingdom of light”) is the biblical norm.
3. Debating Doctrine & The Triune Nature of God
- (15:27–18:00) Honest admission of theological limitations:
- Quote (15:59, Mattt): “I don't think anybody on the planet has flawless doctrine. So I just try to always keep that in mind.”
- They examine the Trinity’s role in salvation and the complexities of understanding God’s nature (Romans 10:9).
- Irreverent sidebar on time travel and the Trinity as a joke and thought experiment.
4. Bible, Conspiracies, and the Supernatural
- (18:21–21:15) Playful debate on unicorns, dragons, and dinosaurs in the Bible.
- Quote (18:58, Mattt): “Dragon. Several, man. Or fiery serpent... Dragon.”
- (19:54) Arguments about Blue Letter Bible definitions, with jokes about Bible commentaries and the possibility of unicorns and ancient monsters.
5. Launching into the Story of Elijah & Ahab
- (21:22–35:00)
- The group begins a running reading of 1 Kings 21–22, providing color commentary and connecting biblical drama to cultural archetypes (e.g., weak men, Jezebel spirit).
- Quote (28:29, Raven): “Yo, Ahab is such a dick.”
- Themes of inheritance, ancestral land, disobedience to God for convenience, and the earth's spiritual significance are explored.
- They frequently digress into personal stories, practical jokes, and lively debate about gender roles, leadership, and submission.
6. Gender, Leadership, & the Jezebel Archetype
- (39:39–54:16)
- Critique of Ahab’s passivity and Jezebelean domination, applying lessons to modern gender roles and church leadership.
- Quote (52:11, Mattt): “Anywhere a man has authority, he has responsibility, and anywhere a man has responsibility, he has authority. They go together.”
- Personal anecdotes illustrate the consequences of weak leadership at home and in church.
7. Divine Judgment, Timing, and Modern Parallels
- (55:13–57:36)
- The consequences prophesied for Ahab are delayed (dogs licking his blood), opening discussion about patience, the uncertainty of prophetic timing, and the difficulties of spiritual discipline in a distractible age.
- Quote (56:07, Raven): “In this time, we might have more trouble having patience and adhering to God's timing on things than ever before... everything is so moving so fast.”
- Articulation of the dangers of “fun Christianity” and the ease of missing spiritual gravity in modern life.
8. Curses, Generational Sin & Repentance
- (71:24–73:59)
- Entering the topic of generational curses: can repentance break them? Mattt underscores God’s mercy to Ahab when he humbles himself.
- Quote (73:16, Mattt): “If you don't come out, you're gonna suffer the sins of your father, Satan...God is always looking to give us a path back to him.”
9. Prophets, False Prophets, and the Lying Spirit
- (74:37–89:00)
- Colorful retelling of 1 Kings 22: Ahab seeks guidance from 400 false prophets versus the lone true prophet Micaiah.
- Discussion shifts into deep theology: heavenly “divine council” scenes, God allowing a lying spirit to deceive Ahab.
- Quote (88:46, Mattt): “Now, therefore, behold, the Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee. That's just a loaded statement that people can't get down with.”
10. Closing Reflections: Judgment, Legacy, and Perspective
- (94:10–100:55)
- Ahab’s fate is sealed—an archer’s random shot fulfills prophecy, his blood licked by dogs.
- The hosts reflect on how heaven’s perspective differs from popular opinion and historical spin.
- Warnings, jokes, and reflections on repeating biblical themes in modern politics, religion, and leadership.
- Quote (100:27, Mattt): “That's what the Bible is, bro... don't get so caught up in all the things being talked about today. Heaven's probably not even talking about any of that stuff.”
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- On “Secret Jesus Missions” vs. Alien Abductions:
- “All these Pleiadian homos, the Galactic Federation of homosexuals, will often give you this secret mission to go and carry out.” (10:23, The Raven)
- On Weak Men & Jezebel:
- “Wickedness being, you know, describing submitting to shitty women. Yeah, that's fascinating.” (48:55, The Raven)
- “The most wicked? It’s like the most wicked.” (74:12, Mattt, on passivity)
- On False Prophets & Flattery:
- “Fake prophets always say sweet things to people. They want your money.” (77:13, Mattt)
- On the Divine Council and Lying Spirit:
- “God's got all these angelic beings or spiritual entities... ‘Guys, let's come up with a game plan to trick this dude into going into battle so he can die.’ That's what's happening.” (86:08, Mattt)
- On Prophecy Fulfilled:
- “A certain man drew a bow... and the blood ran out of the wound into the midst of the chariot and the dogs licked up his blood.” (93:10–93:47, retelling 1 Kings 22)
- On Modern Parallels:
- “If you know their names, they're probably not in control.” (99:03, The Raven)
- “...regardless of what the Republicans or Democrats said or whatever people said on Twitter... This is how heaven viewed his life.” (94:10, Mattt)
- On Heaven’s View:
- “That's what the Bible is, bro. So, like, all the—that's what I'm saying. Like, don't get so caught up in all the things being talked about today. Heaven's probably not even talking about any of that stuff.” (100:27, Mattt)
Timestamps for Important Segments
- 08:45 – Premise: Secret missions & biblical precedent vs. UFO/alien experiences
- 16:23 – Trinity, Salvation, and Time Travel Banter
- 21:22 – Start of Bible Study: Elijah, Ahab, Leadership, Gender Roles
- 39:39 – Jezebel, Ahab, Men’s Passivity & Modern Culture
- 55:13 – Divine Judgment, Prophetic Timelines, Patience in a Tech Age
- 73:12 – Breaking Generational Curses Through Repentance in Christ
- 74:37 – 400 Prophets vs. Micaiah: Falsehood, Truth, and Divine Council
- 88:46 – God Sends a Lying Spirit—Difficult Scriptures
- 94:10 – Ahab’s Death: Prophecy Fulfillment, Legacy, and Heaven’s Angle
- 100:08 – Final Reflections: Perspective Beyond Today’s “News”
Tone & Style
- Style: Unfiltered, fast-paced, often irreverent and jocular while oscillating between deep scriptural insight and wild asides.
- Dynamics: Rapid-fire banter, continual ribbing, and candid theological wrestling—with occasional sincere moments of humility and spiritual challenge.
- Language: Mix of slang, wit, and occasional explicit language; retains the authentic voice of each participant while unpacking dense themes.
For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In
This episode is equal parts thoughtful Bible study, barbed social commentary, and energetic riff session. The hosts dissect biblical stories for patterns that repeat in modern life—leadership failures, false prophecy, gender conflict—and do so with a blend of knowledge, candor, and irreverence. If you want to witness how ancient scripture can still spark controversy, laughter, disagreement, and unexpected insights in a 21st-century context, this conversation delivers, complete with spontaneous quotable lines and sincere wrestling with both texts and today’s headlines.
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