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Filthy Dreamers | Straight Bible
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In this Straight Bible study, we break down Jude 8–10 — one of the most intense and misunderstood passages in the New Testament. Jude warns about “filthy dreamers” who defile the flesh, despise dominion, and reject spiritual authority. In this...
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Matt
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Co-host
Come on. I think you mean chicken dinner, bro.
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Matt
Nah, brother. Crispy bacon, fluffy eggs, juicy chicken, and a buttery biscuit. That's the perfect breakfast.
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Co-host
All right, let me try it.
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Matt
Mmm. Okay. Yeah, totally.
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Co-host
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Matt
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Matt
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Co-host
Come on. I think you mean chicken dinner, bro.
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Matt
Nah, brother. Crispy bacon, fluffy eggs, juicy chicken and a buttery biscuit. That's the perfect breakfast.
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Co-host
All right, let me try it.
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Matt
Mmm. Okay.
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Co-host
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Matt
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Co-host
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Matt
Testing. Okay, we're in. Jude, we're in. I don't know, like our third or fourth session of Jude and we're hopefully going to get through verses 8, 9, and 10. And the thing is, is that people are like, why is the book of Jude taken so long? It's one chapter and the reason is that Jude is saying crazy stuff that has to be cross referenced with other passages. So that's why, like, you read a verse or two and then you have to cross reference it with some other stuff because otherwise people Will think like, oh, you're just pulling obscure passages out of the Bible that I've never heard before and you're making it like you're trying to turn it into something it's not. So this is why we always cross reference scripture. We don't use man's wisdom to interpret scripture, we use the Bible to interpret scripture. So that's what we're doing. And that's why this takes so long. We're going to get in verses 8, 9 and 10. We wrapped up 5, 6 and 7 last week and we did 1 through 4 the week before. So it looks like we're on session three of Jude. So I'm gonna just start from verse one and roll right through it. I feel like the homies in the chat wanted to talk about the Buddhist. Should I say anything or.
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Co-host
You can say whatever you want.
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Matt
Well, because some of these guys are my guys now, bro, and they're like, yeah, talk about the Buddhist or something from yesterday. So the Buddhism thing is just like whatever, right? It's like people are like, oh, well, there's parallel. There's like overlap, sure, no problem. There's overlap with all kinds of things that say caring for one another. Like I read the. I was in a hotel in Hawaii when I was 19 and they had the Buddhist book of Dharma in the Bible and I read it and it was like kind of rad as far as like caring for others more than yourself. Like, great. Yeah, there's parallel with that, with these type of teachings and caring for other things. I think Christianity takes it a little bit further. It says, do unto others as you would have them to do unto you. Whereas these other things say like, don't do to others things that you wouldn't want done to you. So there's kind of overlap, but it's kind of like whatever. But in the end it's completely irrelevant, right? Because like anything that's like a philosophy or a so called religion or whatever, as sweet as it may sound, or as sweet as it may be, it doesn't deal with the sin issue, man. Like if you think about all the continents on the planet, all of the continents on, on the planet have places of worship, have temples, if you will, to like go and make right with God. Everybody within them on the entire planet knows that there's this divide between them and God. There's a guilt, if you will. There's like this issue between them and God and that's why they make these temples and places of worship in every culture, on every continent. None of These other so called religions deal with this. Like Christianity is the only one to deal with it. It's the story of the truth. And the story of the truth is the fact that God came down to the earth as a man and paid the penalty for sin, which is the thing that's been separating us from God. This sin that leads to unbelief. So it's the only thing that deals with it. So these other things that they have parallels or overlaps, like, okay, cool. Right on. Like, that's cool. It's cool to take care of others. And probably if you meet a Buddhist dude, he's probably super chill. Like if you, like, if you meet him at the store or something, or you meet like, maybe he's a food forest guy, he likes growing fruits too. So you talk to him, he's like a good dude, no problem, no problem. But like, it doesn't matter. The truth is the truth. Right. So if some entity reached something called like nirvana or something, it's like, yeah, what? Like, whatever. Cool. Yeah.
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Co-host
I thought, I thought yesterday's episode was good. I don't think that there was an adequate answer for the sin part or who they're accountable to.
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Matt
Yeah, that's where, like, I seem like a nice guy, but I just seen the dudes in the chat, so they weren't happy. They. Yeah, no, but I just see what they're saying now. I didn't get to see it, but they're saying crazy stuff. So I was like, yeah, let's just talk to it. Let's see what's up. Okay, can we get. I can't keep reading the chat. All right, so we're just gonna go straight into Jude. We're gonna go straight into Jude. I'm gonna read verses one through 10. Because we're gonna do verses eight, nine and 10 today. But let's just make sure we got the backdrop right. I, Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father and preserved in Jesus Christ and called mercy unto you and peace and love be multiplied. We'll just say it again. Always look at a book. Who's the writer? Who's he writing to? Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you and exhort you that you should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. So this is the point of this book. Like, this is the point of what he's saying. I was just going to write about common salvation. But then right in the middle of that, I said the main purpose of this writing needs to be that you earnestly contend for the faith. Most people don't know that verse even exists. And so that's going to really mess up your game as a Christian if you don't know that that passage even exists. That it's very important that believers earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. Because there are certain fakers, men crept in unaware, who were before of old, ordained to this condemnation. Ungodly men turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness and denying the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ. So when you see this janky, false grace message that you see today, you have to understand this is nothing new. Like, that's why we read the Scripture is not just to, like, win debates and have perfect theology and doctrine and go, you know, argue with another guy and beat him, and then that way I can be right and he can be wrong. That's not the point. The point is first and foremost to fellowship with God and to know God. Like, that's why we dig into the Scriptures. And then beyond that, it's like we see these patterns that unfold in the Scripture, and that gives us a lens to see the day that we live in and understand the day that we live in. So if I know these patterns exist in the time of Jude, I know they exist today. Because the patterns don't change. The players and the territories change, but the patterns Never change. Verse 5. I will therefore put you in remembrance, though you once knew this how? That the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, he saved them, but afterward destroyed them, that didn't have faith, that believed not. And the angels, which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness, under the judgment of the great day, even as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. Now we're getting into the new stuff. Verse 8. Likewise also, these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. Yet Michael the Archangel, when contending with the devil, he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation. But said the Lord rebuke thee. But these speak evil of those things which they know not. Who are the these? It's the guys from verse four, remember, certain men crept in unaware. These, these guys from verse four, these speak evil of those things which they know not, but what they know naturally as brute beast. In those things they corrupt themselves. This is the crux of it, man. Like verse 10 to me is the crux of the whole thing. These speak evil of those things which they don't understand. They only understand it naturally, like a brute beast, like a cow, like a dog, like a deer, like, they only understand the natural realm. And because of that, because of that in those things they corrupt themselves. Those things are the things of the natural realm, right? It, it always comes back to the things of the natural realm is where so called, like church leaders or whoever are leading people astray. It's always things pertaining to the natural realm. To have more money, more love of self, more like. Think of one of these crazy things that passed as like Christianity a few years ago. I think it still passes for it. It's called the Love Languages. There's this book called the Love Languages. And the context is like, I want you to talk to me how I want you to talk to me. Like, what's your love language? Somebody asked me that one day, like, what's your love language? And I said, what are you talking about? And it was a couple ladies that I knew would easily get offended. So I took a little shot and.
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Co-host
Oh, you did?
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Matt
Yeah, they said, they said, well, like what's not like you like what? Like what does Jessica do that like makes you happy? And I said, doing the dishes and cooking dinner. And I was just trying to get them to like get mad at me, like to just get the, to make them understand how silly this conversation is. And they were like, oh yeah, that's called works of service. Or it's called one of the things. I was like, no, guys, that was a joke. Like, that was a joke. My love language is coming down from heaven and dying a bloody, torturous death on the cross to buy me back from the dead. So I don't spend eternity in separation from you. And I had no way to get that. You did that for me. Like, that's my love language. And furthermore, as I die to self in this Christian life, I don't care how you talk to me. I don't that like I'm the least important person in the room. I'm not spending my life trying to explain to people how they should be talking to me because this is how I want to be treated. Like, like that's the opposite of Christianity, but it passes for Christianity And I'm just giving just one example of, like, how a thing today, like, passes for Christianity. But that's clearly something coming from the natural realm. That's clearly somebody who doesn't understand the spirit realm. They just understand the natural realm. And what's the benefit I'm going to get from being a Christian, which is not Christianity? Like, if you're just serving Christ for the benefits you get from it, you're not a Christian. Like, we serve Christ because he's worthy. Like. Like, that's it. No matter what we get in return, doesn't matter. We serve him because he's worthy. Okay, so here's another thing I want to point out. So verse eight, he's saying likewise. We're back in verse eight. Likewise. So like, what, like Israel, verse five. Fallen angels, verse six. Sodom and Gomorrah, verse seven. So these filthy dreamers get lumped in with that category. Right? So likewise. Also, these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. I just want to make a sidebar right here in Matthew 23. Dude, this new bacon, egg, and chicken.
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Matt
Total winner, winner, chicken breakfast. Chicken breakfast?
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Co-host
Come on. I think you mean chicken dinner, bro.
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Matt
Nah, bro. Fluffy eggs, juicy chicken, and a buttery biscuit. That's the perfect breakfast.
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Co-host
All right, let me try it. Mmm.
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Matt
Okay. Yeah, totally.
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Co-host
Winner, winner, chicken breakfast.
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Matt
I'm gonna have to keep this right here. Make sure every breakfast is a winner with the delicious new bacon, egg and Chicken biscuit from AM PM AM PM Too much good stuff.
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Matt
I just think this needs to be known. Matthew 23, chapter 23, verses 13 through 28. I think people have, like, bizarre misconceptions of what our kingdom's like. Like this dude says, these filthy dreamers. That doesn't sound like language that church people use. Like in the lobby at church, right? They're like, oh, I wouldn't talk like that. He's calling people names. No problem. Let's see how Jesus talks to people. But what one do you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for you. Shut up. The kingdom of heaven against men. For you neither go in yourselves, neither suffer you, them that are entering, to go in. See, this is the issue. This is the issue with Jude too. If you want to go on a path to hell, go for it. The problem is you're taking people with you. Do you see what I'm saying? This is very parallel. The book of Jude in this passage is parallel in that sense. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you devour widows, houses, and for a pretense make long prayers, Therefore you shall receive the greater damnation. So sometimes people are curious how hell works or the lake of fire, damnation, if you will. It looks like there's greater and lesser levels there, because if there's greater damnation, there must be lesser damnation. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for you compass sea and land to make one proselyte. And when he's made, you make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. So, like, these people are coming to religious leaders, so called. And they're becoming worse off than when they started. I don't man. People aren't ready for this. Woe unto you, you blind guides which say, whosoever shall swear by the temple, it's no big deal, but whosoever shall swear by the money in the temple, he's a debtor. It says, whosoever shall swear by the gold. Because gold is money. Gold and silver are money. Like all the paper stuff that's printed today is just like weird delusions about money. I guess. I don't know. It's a strange world we live in now. You fools and blind. Do you see how he's talking to people? And if you look at. We're in chapter 23 of Matthew, verse 1. It says, Then spoke Jesus to the multitude. This is in front of a ton of people. Like, people are like, I can't believe they crucified Jesus. The holiest man to ever live. I'm like, if you see him punking these bullies, like, these dudes are bullies. They've been bullying the people in religion for all this time. And Jesus came along and bullied the bullies. Like, yeah, I see why they crucified him. He punked him in front of everybody. And he didn't try to be so sweet about it. He didn't say, now hear my heart, church. Hear. Hear what? I don't mean all the Pharisees. Like, he doesn't act like that. He doesn't talk. Our kingdom's not like that. It's not, like, worried about offending people. The current 501C3 structure is very concerned about offending people. Probably because things that are offensive need to get some said, even against that system. And that's why they don't like offensive stuff. But whatever. We don't have to get into all that. You fools and blind. Whether is greater the money or the temple that sanctifies the money. And whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing. But whosoever swears by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty, you fools, and blind. For whether is greater the gift or the altar that sanctifies the gift, whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, swears by it, and by all things thereon. And whoso shall swear by the temple, swears by it, and by him that dwells therein. God is the most important thing, not the temple, not the gold. And he that shall swear by heaven swears by the throne of God, and by him that sits thereon. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites. For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cumin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith. These ought you to have done and not to leave the other undone. That's the passage where some people say you should keep tithing. Because Jesus told Pharisees under that Levitical system, they. They were supposed to be tithing. But he says that's like the smaller thing. Like, that's not the. That's not the big deal. Like, you should do that under that system. But that was never the bigger deal. The bigger deal was judgment, mercy and faith, you blind guides which strain at a gnat and swallow a camel. Woe unto you, scribes. And he's saying, like, you make a big deal out of stuff that's a little deal. And you make a little deal out of stuff that's a big deal that. That Never changes. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites. For you may clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. You blind Pharisee. Cleanse first that which is within. Cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also. Like, you could. You could kind of sum up Christianity right there like. Like, if you wanted to, in, like, a little snippet. It's this. It's this internal change. It's not this system of, like, now I go to church, so externally I don't say cuss words. I eat at Chick Fil A. I have the Z88 happy hits bumper sticker. Those externals are fine. If that was produced from an internal. Right. Cleanse the inside first or take care of the root so that you produce the fruit. Don't spit shine fruit. Like, to make it healthier. Like, go wipe it with Windex. Actually make the root stronger, which will make fruit stronger. Actually clean the inside of the cup, you blind Pharisees. See how it just keeps calling him blind. He's just, like, punking these dudes and he's not stopping to say, no, I don't mean every everybody. Thou blind Pharisee. Cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also. What one do you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites? If you're like white tombs, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within, full of dead men's bones and of all uncleanness, even. So you also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within, you're full of hypocrisy and iniquity. Salah.
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Co-host
That's what got him killed.
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Matt
Yeah. That's what won me to him, though, in a weird way, bro. Like, when I read that passage, I was like, this dude is a gangster. I didn't know if he was God. I was just, like, reading the Bible. He called him white caskets outside beautiful, but inside full of dead man's bones. I was like, dude, I'm with him. I'm with him. I. I don't know much more about him, but, like, so I had read all of Matthew. So I had already been through, like, the Sermon on the Mount and, like, these lovely, wonderful things he's doing for humanity and stuff. But then I read that how he was bullying the bullies. I was like, I want to be on his team. That is one of the most gangster lines ever Said in the human existence, dude, inside you guys are beautiful outside, but inside, full of dead men's bones.
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Co-host
A lot of churches like that.
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Matt
Yeah. I mean, another example is like, the fig tree that had beautiful leaves. Then he showed up, he's like, oh, man, from a distance, these leaves look great. But upon further examination, there's no fruit. Like, there's no fruit. It was all show. So anyway, I just want to make that point. Like, Jude has no problem calling these dudes filthy dreamers or, like, calling them names. He's got no issue with that. So I'm not saying go around calling people names. I'm actually not a big fan of, like, calling people names and getting in Twitter fights and stuff. But I'm just saying, like, the Bible's not necessarily anti that, which is offensive. I get it. People are offended by that. But I'm just reading the scripture. So this filthy dreamers thing, like, to me it means, like, he's saying they're like, delusional or they're acting like their dreams have some kind of authority. They're just like, they're saying these dreams and so somehow it matters. But he's like, no, they're just filthy dreamers, man. And what do they do? They defile the flesh. Let's look at Hebrews 12, 5, 17. This is what I'm saying. We need to cross reference all these passages. Let's talk about defiling the frat, the flesh. Defiling the flesh in Hebrews 12, 5, 17. Bro, let's go.
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Co-host
We got it. I mean, listen, you can flip the pages, but.
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Matt
Well, sometimes I have notes in my Bible too, that get me fired up. I'm kind of fired up. Dude, we kind of have. I'm sorry for being late, guys. I was late. And then we, like, sat down, and then it was just go time. And I'm just pumped. I'm kind of losing my breath a little bit even, because I'm just like, going, So sorry about that. I'm not really a professional. Oh, this goes hard. This goes hard right here too. Okay. I feel like this whole thing goes hard. Like, this is going to be good. Hebrews 12, chapter 12. Starting in verse 5, we're gonna go 5 through 17. You have forgotten the exhortation which speaks unto you as unto unto children. My son. Despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when you are rebuked of him. This is talking about how God punishes his family, right? Like some people say, hey, how come the 501C3 system isn't like, struck down today, right? Like, how come all this stuff. How come in Acts, chapter five, like Ananias and Sapphira get killed because of something that seems very small in that day, Right? And how come Today the current 501C3 system, like, if you want to know how wicked and evil that system gets, check out the dude, Nathan Apfel. He's got the religion business. This is a gangster show that this dude is doing. And he's doing the deep dives that nobody wants to touch.
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Co-host
They're like, you're not paying tribute to your church. What's wrong with you?
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Matt
I don't want to get into that. I'm just saying this dude's doing the deep dive that nobody wants to do, right? Like, you start digging into that and you're just going, whoa, whoa, whoa. This has nothing to do with God. I'm not saying your local church has nothing to do with God. Maybe it does. I don't know your local church. I'm just saying this system has turned into some janky, corrupt system. And he's doing an incredible job of exposing it. Season one's out right now. He's working on season two. But he's doing good stuff, dude. The religion business, Nathan Apfeld and I really do think that this is kind of the future of where the church is going to go. Like in Jeremiah. God even tells Jeremiah that he sent him to root down and tear down and destroy so that he could again plant and rebuild. And I know people are going to hate for that, but I think that's where we're at today. I really think that's where we're at. But anyway, so this is saying that God chastises and punishes his children because he loves them, right? So when he's not punishing that system, people say, what do you think's going on? I say, I just don't think the Lord's going down the street to spank his neighbor's kids. Dude. This new bacon, egg and chicken biscuit from AM pm. Total winner, winner, chicken breakfast. Chicken breakfast.
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Co-host
Come on. I think you mean chicken dinner, bro.
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Matt
Nah, brother. Crispy bacon, fluffy eggs, juicy chicken, and a buttery biscuit. That's the perfect breakfast.
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Co-host
All right, let me try.
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Matt
Mmm. Okay.
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Co-host
Yeah, totally. Winner, winner, chicken breakfast.
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Matt
I'm gonna have to keep this right here. Make sure every breakfast is a winner with the delicious new bacon, egg and cheese chicken biscuit from AM pm am, PM Too much good stuff. Most people would rather attend a corporate team building workshop than search for auto and home insurance. Go team. Feel that synergy. That's why the zebra searches for you. Comparing over 100 insurance companies to find savings no one else can compare today@the zebra.com who's ready for the trust fall? My son, despise not the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when you are rebuked of him. For whom the Lord loves, he chastens and scourges every son whom he receives. If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons. For what son is he who the Father chastens not? But if you be without chastisement whereof all are partakers, then are you bastards and not sons? The Bible is very plain. It's very plain spoken. It's very offensive. Furthermore, we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us and we gave them reverence. Shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits and live for they verily for a few days chastise us after their own pleasure. But he for our profit that we might be partakers of his holiness. This is the. This is why he chastises now. No chastening for the present seems to be joyous, but grievous nevertheless. Afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness. Like, this is why he's chastising us on this journey, man. He's punishing us and chastising us almost to put us on this path. He's saying, don't go that way. Chastisement, don't go that way. Punishment. He's taking us to that narrow gate and that straight. That straight gate in that narrow path. And few there be that find it. He has to chastise to get you on that path. You say, oh, no, he doesn't have to chastise me. Like, he could just tell me, well, not me. I have to be punished. Like, I have to be taught. Like, I would love it if I could just say, hey, God, why don't you just explain this stuff to me? But unfortunately, I'm very prideful. I'm arrogant. I have, like, stubborn ways. And I have to be shown things in real life for it to be real. That's why this stuff I talk about is real, because it's real to me now. Like, it's not things that were, like, concepts or theories. It's things that I've gone through that have made me on this path. That's what he does. This is what it means to be guided by the Lord. Now, no chastening for the present seems joyous of Course not. It's grievous. But afterward, it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness. Yeah, I don't know. I can look back on my life in any place I've ever gotten to. I'm like, yeah, I got there through hardship. Like, I didn't get there through, like, wonderful, sweet times, which I love. Wonderful, sweet times, dude. I'm so grateful for wonderful, sweet times. But I'm also able to look back in any place where I've grown or gotten to somewhere important. It's because I went through hard things. Wherefore, lift up the hands which hang down and make the feeble hang down and the feeble knees, and make straight pads for your feet. Lest that which is lame be turned out of the way, but let it rather be healed. Follow peace with all men, even people you disagree with on Twitter.
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Co-host
I'll think about it.
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Matt
Follow peace with all men and holiness without which no man shall see the Lord. Okay, here we go. This is what we're really trying to get to. Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God. Remember, Jude's talking about earnestly. Earnestly and diligently are kind of similar words. Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God, lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled. Okay, sorry it took a long way, but this is what we're getting to. He's talking about these dudes that defile the flesh. Look how it happens in verse 15. Looking diligently. So if you're not looking diligently, you're going to be in danger of defiling the flesh because you might fail of the grace of God. I know people get offended by that, but it says it right there. Lest any root of bitterness springing up, lest any little thing, like, watch your life in the little things, because the little things turn into big things. And honestly, the little things are your life. Like. Like the little things that. That is what your life is made of. Like, the big things. Like, say you have, like, the big wedding day. Bella just got married. And Cameron, congratulations to them. I love them and I'm super happy for them. Your wedding day is like this one big day, right? That's like, your whole life isn't made up of that. Your whole life is made up of all these little things that happen day in, day out, man. So be very careful and be very mindful of the little things, right? Because if you don't, a little root of bitterness could spring up, man. Start to be bitter towards People, you start to hold a grudge. You start to be kind of nasty with people. Just be very careful, lest a root of bitterness springs up and then it troubles you and then you get defiled by it. And I'm going to read 16 and 17 because I think it's very applicable, because we keep coming back to this thing about it's just the natural realm and not the spirit realm. Watch this, lest there be any fornicator or profane person as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright for a carnal desire, he forsook something with eternal importance. That's the thing with Esau. When it says, like, Jacob I loved and Esau I hated. You have to really dig into that. It's not just as simple. It's not just as black and white as people make it. Like, you got to dig into that whole story. And the whole issue was that, like, one dude cared about eternity and eternal things and was even a little shady to go about it. But he. He loved the eternal things and recognized that that was more important than the natural. So the other guy was like a good dude. The dude Esau, you look at his life like, oh, he seems like a nice guy. Maybe hang out with the dude. He's. He's probably fun to hang out, likes to hunt. He's probably a cool dude.
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Sponsor/Announcer
Yeah.
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Matt
But he didn't care about eternity. And that's the issue. That's what this issue is in Jude. This keeps coming up. People who can't see eternity. For, you know how that afterward, when he, Esau, would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected because he found no place of repentance, even though we sought it carefully with tears. That's a tough one, man. He was past the point of repentance. So anyway, I'm just saying we got to be mindful of eternal things, not the temporary realm. And be very careful that you don't defile the flesh by failing of the grace of God and letting bitterness spring up in you. Let's look at another defile passage in Titus 1, 15 and 16. Titus is a great, great book, man. Great book. Under the pure, all things are pure. That's heavy, man. That's why some people don't like it if you say, like, yeah, bro, the Avatar movie, The dude, he lives in one realm. He's in a wheelchair, like an Avatar 1 movie. And then he gets to be like this blue guy in this other realm. And then. But that's like his. Not really his real life. His real life is still in the wheelchair. But then as the movie progresses, he slowly but surely understands that that other realm is the real realm and more important to him. So people are like, oh, no. If you like the Avatar movie, that's demonic, whatever. I'm not saying there's not demonic elements in it. It comes from Hollywood. Like, everything that comes out of Hollywood has demonic elements. No problem. I don't disagree. I'm simply saying that under the pure, all things are pure. Like, I'm saying, we read the scripture to put on that lens, right? Not so we can win debates and memorize stuff and have flawless doctrine, but so we can put on that lens to see life in our day, in our generation. And so, like, under the pure, all things are pure. You watch some movie with these demonic elements and stuff, but you see the message of the kingdom of God in it, even though there's wickedness and demonic stuff in it. Same with, like, the Avengers movies or like any of these movies. Under the pure, all things are pure. Like, you find the things pertaining to the kingdom of God and all things. Under the pure, all things are pure. But unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure. Even their mind and conscience is defiled. They profess that they know God, but in works they deny him being abominable and disobedient, and into every good work reprobate. So just notice that defiled goes with unbelieving. And also notice this. They profess that they know God, but they don't remember. We went over that last week, the passage where, like, people come to Jesus, they say, we did all this stuff. He says, yeah, I never knew you depart from me. So there's. There's people that profess to know God that don't know God. I just think even these little bits of information are very helpful on the journey. We're all on the path, right? We're all on the long game. Like, we're all in this long game. We're just trying to get on the path. We're trying to know the Lord. We're trying to fulfill the destiny that he made us for. We need to know these little bits and pieces to know, like, what the game is. A lot of us don't know the game. Like, we have to understand the game to know, like, what we're in and to know how to play the long game. So, yeah, I mean, so I think the question is, how much is this happening today? We know what was happening in that passage in Matthew that Jesus addresses. We know Titus is here talking about it. I think we need to talk about if it's happening today. Now here's where we're going to get into crazy stuff. In verse eight there's kind of three different things we're breaking down now. Right. Filthy dreamers was one. Number two is defile the flesh. And number three is despise dominion and speak evil of dignities. Right. I think we have to look at 2 Peter 2 Peter chapter 2, which is actually a parallel passage to this. I don't know how much we've brought Peter into this actually. Have we referenced Peter at all since we've been doing Jude?
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Co-host
No.
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Matt
Yeah, it's a parallel passage. He. It's. It's so crazy, dude. Two Peter chapter two. He's like saying the same thing as the book of Jude. It's so wild. So let's look at two Peter 2, 9 and 12 to kind of get this concept of despising dominion and speaking evil of dignities. Do you want to say words for a little bit while I take my sweatshirt off or is it going to be like boring?
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Co-host
Yeah, I'll read it. Verse 9 says the Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of the out of temptations and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished. I'm sure Matt has something to say about that.
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Matt
No, no, keep. You keep going.
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Co-host
But chiefly them that walk after the flesh and lust of uncleanliness and despise government. Presumptuous are they self willed. They are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. That's the same exact quote.
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Matt
Yeah. I just like how Peter says despise government because sometimes people are missing this. Like the governmental structure of the Kingdom of God. Right. Like we were kind of getting down in that last week with the angels that left their first estate. Right. Most people would rather assemble a 300 piece cabinet than search for insurance. That's why the zebra searches for you. Comparing over 100 insurance companies to find savings no one else can compare today@the zebra.com. most people would rather remove a nest of irate hornets than search for auto and home insurance. That's why the zebra searches for you. Comparing over 100 insurance companies to find savings no one else can compare today@the zebra.com. i think I'll wait inside. We were kind of getting down in that there's a governmental structure of the Kingdom of God just like there's a governmental structure in the Kingdom of God. Portugal or the Kingdom of America or you know, whatever we call them nations we don't necessarily call them kingdoms if they don't have a so called king today. But there's a kingdom of God, man. There's a nation, there's a nationality of the kingdom of God. It's the church. There's a culture within that kingdom. People, you know, they don't whatever there, there's a culture within this kingdom. So there's an interesting thing. It's like in 2 Peter 2, 9 through 12. Did you just read through 11?
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Co-host
Yeah. No, no, we're up to 11.
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Matt
Okay. Chiefly. So 10 is chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise government. He makes it plain presumptuous are they self willed. They're not afraid to speak evil of dignities. Whereas angels which are greater in power and might bring out railing accusation against them before the Lord, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. Here we go, he's saying the same thing. But these as natural brute beasts made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not and shall utterly perish in their own corruption. Bro, there's a whole group of people just like so called preaching the gospel that don't understand. They have no concept of the spirit realm. They only understand things according to like natural ways. Right? They send them to cemetery schools just like you would for any other, like college, for any other like natural career path. The church is just copying the world structure and just applying it to so called Christian things. They're just understanding things of the natural realm. They don't understand the spirit realm. They don't understand the kingdom of God. That's what I'm saying. That's why we're cross referencing these passages because I think this is foreign to most people. And so everybody needs to understand this is a common concept through scripture. It's not like a one off deal with Jude. So what kind of, what kind of government do they do? They despise man. They despise a spiritual government, the government in the heavenly realm. Now I want to say some crazy things about the government of God in the earthly realm. This is where the rubber is really going to meet the road. And I think to make this real, I think we have to go to John 17 first. I think we have to go to John 17. This is referred to as like the high priestly prayer of Jesus. Some would even call it the Lord's Prayer, even though I know there's that other passage that we call the Lord's Prayer. Someone called this the Lord's Prayer. He's crying out to the Father like, this is his heart before he goes to the cross. And I'm not going to read the whole thing because it's way too heavy. And I wouldn't pay it justice to do it right now. But I do want to pull out, like, a couple of things from it. First off, in John 17:3, I just don't want to pass over this. As long as we have an opportunity to bring this passage up. People need to understand this. This is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou has sent. This is eternal life. That they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou has sent. This is Jesus speaking to the Father. So if everybody wants a definition for eternal life, it's right there. It's right there. It's cut and dry. This is eternal life. That they might know thee. That's God the Father, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom God the Father has sent. That's eternal life. That starts now and that does last for eternity. But the lake of fire looks like it exists for all eternity as well. So it's not necessarily a period of time. It's a state of life. It's knowing God. Remember, all this stuff keeps coming back to knowing God. It all comes back to this. All right, so that's verse three. Let's look at verse 11. This is Jesus talking to the Father. And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world. And I come to thee, Holy Father, keep through your own name those whom you have given me, that this is the whole point. So that they may be one as we are. This is big, dude. Like, this is. This is. That's a crazy state. That's an outrageous statement. That's Jesus saying, God the Father, I want the church to be one. I want them to have the same. What we would call unity, which is a hijacked word today. But this is what he's saying. I want the church to have unity. Not kind of unity. The same unity that me and you have. God. That's an outrageous statement.
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Co-host
It's outrageous if you don't believe in the Trinity.
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Matt
Oh, I see you. This is an outrageous statement that the church would be one and have that same unity that Jesus and the Father have. That's what he's praying in this prayer. I would argue that's the thrust of this prayer. There's many other things in this prayer, and I don't want to, like, take this lightly or say anything, like, off the cuff. About this, because this is one of the most like holy passages in all of Scripture. But I would say this is the thrust of the prayer. Look at verses 20 through 23. Neither prayer for these alone, but for them also, which shall believe on me through their word. That's where Jesus prayed for me and you. Right there. For people that would believe later. What's he praying for? Verse 21. That they all may be one, as thou, Father, are in me, and I in thee. That they also may be one in us. That the world may believe that you have sent me. And the glory which you gave me, I have given them. I. I don't know if people are ready for this, man. I'm just reading. That's just what the Bible says. The glory which you gave me, I've given them, so that they may be one, even as we are one. Sometimes I read this, and I'm, like, in shock by it even. I don't know how many times I've read this, but I read it right now, and I'm saying, like, wait, what? I in them and thou in me. I and them. That's Jesus in the church and thou in me. That they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that thou has sent me and has loved them as thou has loved me. That's probably. That's definitely top five most shocking statements in all of scripture. Probably. Number one. That the Father loves me. That's them. That's the church. Us as the Father loves Jesus. Again, man. Like, I'm just trying to throw some snippets out there that people can kind of chew on, because if you don't know this man, then there's just. It's hard to start putting these pieces together. It's staggering what's offered to us. It's staggering what the Bible's saying and what belongs to us and what our position is. It's staggering.
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Co-host
Well, that's, like. Not to bring you back to the first couple scriptures of Jude, where these angels left their estate. Do you think it's because there was. There's, like, a love for human beings that exceeds the love for the Elohim that he created before they kind of got rambunctious and.
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Matt
Could have been, dude. Could have been. They just. They look at man created in the image and likeness of God, and they're like, damn, look what those guys got. Like, God went to the dirt pile and made that. Man's made out of dirt and angels. Yeah, they're. They're, like, looking at humanity. They're saying that's rad. They can make a human life. That man and that woman can make a human life. We can't do that. Yeah, I think there's probably an element of that. Okay. It's where it's gonna get rowdy. Never really hear this. Spoken of, if I'm being honest. I don't really. I read a lot of stuff, dude. I read like a lot of stuff, especially from the past. Spurgeon G. Camel Morgan, Alexander White. I mean, Watchman Knee, Andrew Murray. I mean, like, I read a lot of stuff. I don't really necessarily see people talk about this. And so I don't know. Maybe this is a thing that's. I don't know. I don't know. I think it needs to be talked about. So we are. We went through John 17. The thrust of what Jesus is praying for is the unity of the church, that the church would be one. Right. So does he just pray that or does he actually, like, do a thing in the earth to make this come to pass? Remember, the topic is the government of God. Ephesians 4, starting in verse 9. Now that he ascended, what is it, but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? I think the NDS fans are going to like that. Who's our buddy that does the plasma? The Brad Lail. Yeah, that's his jam, right? The lower parts of the earth, like inside the earth. Okay, we're not going to get into that. But that's just what it's saying right here. Jesus descended first into the lower parts of the earth. He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens that he might fill all things. And he, that's Jesus gave some apostles and some prophets and some evangelists and some pastors and some teachers. Remember, the topic is the government of God. Right. The topic is the government within our kingdom. There's a government in the spiritual, heavenly realm, there's a government that he's instituted in the earthly realm. That's the topic at hand. What did he institute this government for? For the perfecting of the saints. Right. For the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ. Verse 13 until the end of the first century. Nope, it doesn't say it, man. Again, I don't know what some guy said in the year 100 or 200 or 300 or like these things that were, like, referencing or whatever. Most people would rather remove a nest of irate hornets than search for auto and home insurance. That's why the zebra searches for you comparing over 100 insurance companies to find savings no one else can compare today@the zebra.com I think I'll wait inside calling all daydreamers and date nighters. Come immerse yourself in the rich culture of Texas and dig into our mouth watering barbecue. Trailblazers can explore our natural wonders and beach lovers will wonder why they've never felt so relaxed before. You're invited to discover experiences you can only find in Texas. Visit traveltexas.com and plan your trip today. Let's Texas. I don't know. I don't know. I'm just straight Bible man. The Bible says that this government of God that Jesus put in the church, somebody else didn't put it in the church. God put it in the church that is put in place for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ until we all come in the unity of the faith. Didn't we just read in John 17, like this is the prayer of Jesus is the unity of the church, the unity of the faith, if you will. Then we just read that that's his, that's the thrust of John 17, the high priestly prayer of Jesus, the unity of the church. Here he institutes a government for that same purpose. He prays for it to the Father and then puts a governmental structure in place in the church for that same unity. Today somehow that is brushed aside. Today, somehow we've forsaken this model for what? A public speaking pastor? Like a talking path? Like the qualification for a pastor today is he's a good public speaker. That's the qualification for a politician. That's not the qualification for a man of God shepherding a church. Then we have a singing pastor. You're telling me there's a guy who has a leadership role in the heavenly godly body of Christ because he can play an instrument? Is that what we're saying? We're saying if you can play guitar, you can have a leadership role in God's body, God's holy body. Because you can play instruments, because you can play music. Now you have a leadership role in the church. Depending on what denomination you go to, maybe you have like a deliverance pastor, missions pastor, kids pastor, youth pastor. Like we've forsaken the model that's been given to us. And then we wonder like what? Like why is the church in a mess today? Like, like what's going on? Because we've forsaken the governmental structure. And I know there's tons of People I know there's plenty of people that are like, no, no, that's not for today. I would just caution those people to be very careful taking something out of the church that Jesus has put in the church. I'd be very careful with that. Now, if you say the current structure today, the current view of, like, dudes who call themselves apostles as they're really wankers, I wouldn't necessarily disagree. I wouldn't necessarily disagree. Like, if I see a dude that comes in the shop and says, like, he opens churches and he's like an entrepreneur but with churches, because he's an apostle, I'd say, that's a straight wanker. We have those guys come in, you see another guy, it says apostle on his business card. I'm saying, potentially, that's a wanker. That's a wanker. So I get it. It's a minefield, bro. Like, the modern system is a minefield, bro. You go to the left, you're getting limbs blown off. You're getting limbs blown off. You go to the right, you're getting limbs blown off. Like. Like the current church structure in America is a minefield, bro. It's a straight gate in a narrow path, and you got to be very diligent to stay on the narrow. If your two options are, like, the people who call themselves apostles today or, like, people who just deny that there's apostles, I don't know. I get it. If those are the two options, that's a tough pick. That's a tough pick. I'm saying let's go straight Bible and let's look at what apostles are in the Bible. Let's talk about a couple of things. I've heard a couple of things. I've heard a couple of things like this. Like, no, apostles were the ones who brought forth the scripture. So there can't be apostles today. I would say Moses brought forth the scripture in his day, right? He brought forth the law, and so that was his job in that day. These apostles, that there will never be any. Like, the apostles that we know in scripture that walked with Jesus, their job was to bring forth the scripture. Amen. Amen. You know, Elijah comes down the road, however many centuries later from Moses, he didn't bring forth the scripture. That didn't make him not a prophet, people. You know, Moses was a prophet. He brought forth the scripture. The apostles that walk with Jesus were apostles. They brought forth scripture. Elijah was just as much a prophet as Moses. He just had a different role for the day that he lived in. Apostles today would Just have a different role for the day that they live in. And I'll be honest, I don't know exactly what that looks like. But can we have the discussion? That's all I'm. That's all I'm saying. Can we start to have this discussion in the church? Like, what exactly is this supposed to look like? And I'd like to. I'd like to deal with this issue. Like, do they even exist? Right. So let's just look at Acts. Look at Acts 13:1:4. Let's just look at how it operates in the church again. This is why we cross reference so much stuff, because we're saying crazy things. So it has to be supported by Scripture, not by man's wisdom. Not like saying one scripture and then going on, on some long rant about how smart you are because you got a bunch of letters behind your name. No, no. Let's just compare scripture with Scripture. Acts 13:1. Now, there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers as Barnabas and Simeon, that was called, and Lucius of Cyrene and Menaine, which had been brought up with Herod the Tetrarch, and Saul. As they ministered to the Lord and fasted, the Holy Ghost said, separate me, Barnabas and Saul, for the work wherein to I have called them. So the Holy Ghost calls people and say, oh, no, apostles can only be called by Jesus. Just hold tight, hold tight. I'm going somewhere. I know you're saying, well, that doesn't prove it yet. Okay, just give me a second. And they ministered to the Lord and fasted. The Holy Ghost said, separate me, Barnabas and Saul, for the work where unto I've called them. And when they had fasted and prayed and laid their hands on them, they sent them away. So they being sent forth by the Holy Ghost departed unto Seleucia, and from there they sailed to Cyprus. Here's the point I'm getting at. There are apostles who get sent out by the Holy Ghost the same way they were apostles of Jesus. I wouldn't say that a man today is not an apostle of Jesus. I'm just saying his call comes from the Holy Ghost. This under this same model that we have in the scripture. So these dudes are sent out, you say? Yeah. That doesn't say that Barnabas is an apostle, though. Like, nowhere in here does it say anywhere that Barnabas is an apostle. Correct. That's why we have to go to 1414. All right. This is when they're in Iconium and Barnabas and Paul Start doing miracles and stuff. And these lovers of false gods and worshipers of false gods think that Barnabas and Paul are actually gods because they're doing these wild ass miracles. And people are like, whoa, what's going on? This is great. They start to worship them and they don't like it.
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Co-host
I was just reading this with my son.
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Matt
Yeah. So in verse 14 it says, which when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard of this, that they were trying to worship them, they ripped their clothes and ran in among the people and crying out say, no, no, no, don't do this. We're just normal men like you. So right here Barnabas is called an apostle. He's not an apostle. In the beginning of the book, it looks like when he's called by the Holy Ghost that we just read, that's, that's when he's called to be an apostle. That's my take on it. If you disagree, that's fine, but you can't Disagree that verse 14 says Barnabas is an apostle. So there are other apostles that got called forth since that time period. So I'm saying, why would it be any different today? If Jesus has set apostles in the church for the unity of the faith. Till we have the unity of the faith, why would there not be apostles today? And I'm fine with the reality that they look different today than they would in other time periods. They have a different role. Just like Moses had a role in day, Elijah had a totally different role in his day. They were both prophets, they just had different roles based on the day that they lived in. What do they look like today? I don't know, but I think Acts 6:1:4 is a good start. I think this is a good start if people are ready for this. We're just talking about the government of God, making sure we don't despise the God given government of God. And in those days when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews because the Grecian widows were neglected in the daily ministration. This was a day where the church was taking care of the poor. They weren't taking money from the poor to buy land and build buildings. They were taking money from people who were selling land and buildings, giving it to the church, and the church was giving it to the poor. So it's like the opposite of the model today. So they took in money, but that was to take care of the poor. It wasn't for their ministry. Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them and said so the 12 apostles, they call everybody to them, they say, hey man, we're catching heat over the, the Greek widows. They're not getting fed the same way the Hebrew widows are. You guys are being racist is really what's kind of happening here. Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples said unto them, it's not reason that we should leave the word of God and serve tables. Who's speaking? The apostles. The apostles in that day said we can't stop to deal with this stuff, but this has to be dealt with. Like, like we do have to have a governmental structure and we do have to have people taking care of this stuff. But as apostles, that's not our role. Wherefore brethren, look you out among you seven men. Look for the guy who owns the local car dealership, maybe a guy who owns a local restaurant. Make sure you find like good businessmen in the local area who have a lot of money because those are people we want to be on the board at the church. No, no, they don't say anything like that. They say, look you out among you seven men of honest report. Honest people get honest. I don't care how much money they have. I don't care how much they so called tithe or give to the institution or what their title is. In a worldly society. We don't care. Just find people that are men of honest report and that they're full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom whom we may appoint over this business. There's some of this stuff that does need to be dealt with, but it's not by us. Why not? Verse 4. But we will give ourselves continually to prayer and to the ministry of the word. Where are those guys today? Where are those guys that spend 40 hours a week the same way we all hustle our ass off at our jobs all week long, 40 hour weeks grinding. Where are those dudes that are praying continually in prayer in the ministry of the Word? Where are those dudes that are in prayer and in the Bible 40 hours a week and where are those sermons? Because I want to hear those sermons. Like, like what are we talking about? How are people going to church and falling asleep in the middle of the sermon?
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Co-host
I, I was having a conversation with. It's not like shots fired at the guy that will be taking over the pastorship, but yet one of the struggles that we were talking about was like just with time and he was saying that, he's like, I don't have as much time as I'd like to be in The Word because he's dealing with the day to day of the church.
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Matt
No problem, go work at Walmart.
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Co-host
I was like, man, I said, that's a real problem because like your job is this, but you're being caught up in all this other stuff. And he seemed to lament it, but I don't know, I don't know where to put that.
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Matt
It just doesn't exist today because they're all involved in the business. They're all involved in the business of church. This is what I'm trying to say, man. We've forsaken this model that Jesus has given us for an American business model with a CEO and furthermore a franchise model. A model that can be franchised just like Chick Fil A or Dunkin Donuts or like whatever. It's a franchise model that can be easily replicated where the dude at the top is the CEO. Whereas Jesus has put some in the church, apostles, prophets, pastors, evangelists and teachers. We've forsaken that model for the American business model with a CEO, with a singing pastor, a talking pastor, a kids pastor, a youth pastor and all these other things. And there's other stuff in the government of God. The scripture talks about deacons and helps in ministries. There's other stuff, right? Like even, like, even this is an example of like, like there's a governmental structure in place that has to be revolving around this. Apostles, prophets, pastors, evangelists and teachers and people functioning in those roles. Like an evangelist. Like if an evangelist is a guy who goes to a church and takes up an offering, he's fishing in a bathtub. Like that's not, that's not a biblical example of an evangelist. So we've completely forsaken this model for a franchisable business model, which I think again in the religion business it just shows that like if you operate under that model, you're going to get chewed up and spit out, dude, you're just going to get chewed up and spit out. The model itself is corrupt. There's lovely and wonderful humans within that model, right? We all understand that. We all understand that that model itself has been completely corrupted because we've gone away from the word of God. We've forsaken the word of God because we always want to be smarter than God. And we tend to do everything like the world when we try to be smarter than God, which is always the message is, you're not the world. Don't be like the world. Be different. And then the covenant people always be just like the world. They forsake God. They do things like the world. And we're doing the same thing today. We're doing the same thing today for a franchise business model that can be easily replicated to bring in dollars. And so you say, all right, so a true apostle today, maybe he shepherds a church, he's 40 hours a week in the word in prayer. He may not be able to live the American dream. I mean, this is like, this is the issue. This is the issue. The world looks at the church and says, you don't even believe what you're preaching. Why would we believe what you're preaching? Like your pastors, your leaders, like your highest level people, they expect to live the American dream. They haven't forsaken the world. They're just using a Christian job to fulfill money making so that they can live the American dream. And I'm not even necessarily knocking those guys. I'm definitely not knocking those guys. I know those guys. I know them in my local community and I love them. I'm just saying if we're going to make an impact, if we're going to start making some crossroads into the kingdom of darkness from the kingdom of light, is it a problem if an American pastor doesn't live the American dream? Like, if his message is that eternity is what's at stake and this is what matters most, does he really have to have like the two or three thousand square foot house with the three car garage and the nice little white picket fence and the dog and the cat and have everything just like the guy who's grinding out on the construction site? I don't think so, man. What if we did get back to this old way where like pastors were taken care of by a local congregation and they lived in a tiny house. They didn't have much because they didn't need much. The Levites didn't have an inheritance. Like, I don't know, wouldn't that be a testimony and a witness to the world? They'd be like, yeah, dude, these pastors, they preach fire, bro. Like they're, they're out there like in the prayer and the word, 40 hours a week. And when they step in the pulpit, bro, it's fire. Like, it's fire, dude. And they live in a little tiny house and they have forsaken the world and they don't care about the American dream and like say, that's young people. Maybe they're living like that. They have little kids and stuff, but maybe there's older people who have been faithful to the Lord for a Long time now and then they just step into that role. They don't need everybody's money. They don't care. They don't, they don't need the church's money. So they just preach fire and do their thing. People come and go, they don't care. They don't care. They've been faithful for years in a regular job. And then as the Lord has trusted them faithfully with like natural things, now he can trust them in spiritual things. It's just we don't have this model today. There's, there's no way for this to unfold today. It's like the model is you go to high school and then you could go on like the military or construction or what, you know, college or you can go the path to cemetery school and then you have this career in church. Like I don't know, that just seems like it's going to lead to corruption. And that's how we've forsaken this model with apostles, prophets, pastors, evangelists and teachers. So I think we've kind of beat the crap out of that topic. Does that seem like it was reasonable and like make sense and thorough?
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Co-host
I think so. It's upside down is what you're describing, the model right now. Yeah, almost completely upside down.
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Matt
Right. It's a, it's a man made institution.
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Co-host
Yeah.
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Matt
Which doesn't mean there's not wonderful people in it. I think like normal churchgoers today, they can look at like the Catholic system and say, oh, that system, there's something wrong. Praying to Mary, so called rosary worshiping saints, Something's not right. But there's lovely, wonderful people in that system. Right. In the same way we can look in the current church today and say that structure of that system is not biblical. But you know what's kind of wild is like it's, it's okay, right? There's no, there's no biblical model for a dude to open a coffee shop in Christian library. There's freedom in Christ. I'm saying that system has monopolized that to where that's the only system. Like say some dude came along. Like I think this is what happened actually. I think it was like John Wesley and Charles Wesley came along. They didn't pay $150,000 for sound equipment, but they get crowds of 30, 40,000 people coming on horseback and coming on foot and coming on horse and carriage to hear the gospel. Not because there was like a slide in the lobby, not because they had a pizza party or because there was like fun jokes they came just to hear the message of Christ. 30, 40,000 people. No sound equipment cost $0. Nobody paid anything for it. And they would preach to these giant crowds. And Charles Wesley put his brother's like doctrine to music, bro. So like the old hymns by Charles Wesley are fire. So there is this model of where there was like music used to worship God, but now we've just like prostituted that. We have people say that any music is worship and any worship is music, whereas we would say no, there's like different elements here. You can worship God without music, you can play music without worshiping. Like it's. They, they are not the same word. Worship is one word, music is another wor. They're two different things. Praise is another thing. We're not going to get into all this because we're not trying to go off track. I'm just saying that somehow that model has been monopolized. It's not people in freedom who have creatively gotten to this place with God and determined to do it this way. It's the only way. It's the only model is you come in, there's announcements, five songs, guy gives a speech, that's the only model. And all these so called churches can argue denominationally over doctrine or theology or whatever, but they all have the same model. Don't forget to pass the bucket around too because we got to get money to do this model model that's going to lead to corruption. If you got to get money to do the model, it's going to get funny. It's going to get funny. So anyway, I just want to be careful that we're not despising God given government today. That's all I'm saying. All right, now we're into verse nine. Did we get through verse? Was that verse eight? Don't worry, don't worry. We're not going a whole lot longer. We're not going a whole lot longer. Top's got stuff to do today. Okay. Jude, verse nine. I know the nds homies are going to get rowdy for this.
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Co-host
Going to be crazy.
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Matt
Yet Michael the Archangel, when contending with the devil, he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said the Lord rebuke thee. So my first statement about this verse is. And like my, my major statement, my major thing I need to say right now.
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Co-host
What the, what is this?
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Matt
I don't know. I'm totally comfortable saying that. I don't know. I don't know. There's clearly this argument between Michael And Satan. And these two got beef, dude. Like, if we study out the scriptures, this isn't the only time where they've got beef. But here it looks like they're fighting over the body of Moses. I don't know. I have heard people say, like, well, if the children of Israel would have gotten the body of Moses, they would have worshiped it. That's a totally valid point. Totally valid point. They very well could have done that.
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Co-host
There is a. In. In the conspiracy realm, there are cults, like three. One one calls one. I believe that George Bush belonged to them. But they would dig up graves. And I think one of the more famous skulls that they did steal was the skull of Geronimo. Like this Indian.
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Matt
Indian.
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Co-host
The Indian dude. Yeah. And then they do, like, weird occult things with it.
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Matt
I don't know.
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Co-host
That's just something to think about.
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Matt
But I don't know, bro. I mean, I think they know how to tamper with DNA, so who knows, bro? I don't know enough about it, but I just don't put anything past humans, dude. They do crazy stuff. Okay, check this out. So Deuteronomy 34:1 7 says this. It says, and Moses went up from the plains of Moab unto the mountain of Nebo to the top of Pisgah, that is over against Jericho. And the Lord showed him all the land of Gilead unto Dan and all Naphtali in the land of Ephraim and Manasseh, and all the land of Judah under the utmost sea. And the south, in the plain of the valley of Jericho, the city of palm trees unto Zoar. And the Lord said unto Moses, this is the land which I swear unto Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, saying, I will give it unto your seed. I have caused you to see it with your own eyes, but you will not go over there. Oh, that's hard for me every time I read that. So Moses, the servant of the Lord, died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the Lord. So he died according to the word of the Lord. And he God buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Beth Peor. But no man knows where his tomb's at. Even unto this day, nobody knows where Moses tomb is at. And Moses was 120 years old when he died. His eye wasn't dim and his natural force wasn't abated. So this dude's in, like, prime health. His eye hasn't gone bad, his vision hasn't gone bad. He's still got plenty of natural force. He's okay, like, he's still. He's still pumping. But there's only a couple of conclusions here. Either God killed him, which, which God can do whatever he wants. He's sovereign. He can do whatever he wants, however he wants, whenever he wants, and doesn't have to ask anybody's permission. God's sovereign. He can do whatever he wants. Did he kill him? I don't know. He might have. He might have just been like, poof. Like you're. We're not doing this anymore. But it's an intriguing thing if you. I'm not going to pull it up. But in Exodus 6:16 through 20, his Moses's dad, grandpa, and great grandpa all outlived Moses. So he had good genes to live past 120. He's still in good health at 120. And nobody knows where his tombs at.
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Co-host
They did 137. That's crazy.
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Matt
Yeah. Oh, you got it. Yeah, yeah. These dudes are living like he's dying before the age of his ancestors. This is post flood. This isn't pre flood. So it's not like this crazy thing where it's, you know, whatever. So it's intriguing. Nobody knows where his tombs at. Look at Matthew 17:1 through 9 real quick. And after six days, Jesus takes Peter, James, and John as brother and brings them up into a high mountain apart and was transfigured before them. And his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. And behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elijah talking with Jesus. Elijah never died. We're doing Elijah on our next episode. He never died. So he's there, no problem. But Moses is. But I thought Moses died and God buried him. I don't know. Let's keep going. Then answered Peter and said unto Jesus, lord, it is good for us to be here, if you will. Let us make here three tabernacles. One for you, one for Moses, and one for Elijah. While he yet spake. Behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them. And behold, a voice out of the cloud which said, this is my beloved Son, in whom I'm well pleased. Hear him. And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face and were so afraid. And Jesus came and touched them and said, arise and be not afraid. And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man except Jesus. And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, tell the vision to no man until the Son of Man be risen again from the dead. So this is interesting. Moses shows up somehow here. This is before the resurrection so Jesus is the first fruits. He's the first to be resurrected. Moses can't be resurrected at this time, but he's there on the Mount of Transfiguration. Again, this is what I'm saying. I don't know. I don't know. I'm just trying to maybe tie a couple passages together to where maybe some people in the chat want to like, think through this and maybe just see what exactly is this? What exactly is this? Get out of my head. Goes on watching. Did you read my notes? Okay, look at Exodus 24:15, 18. It's just intriguing. Moses gets taken out before his time. He's still in good health. Did I have this one in the notes? Exodus? Yeah, I think maybe. I was just thinking about this this morning. Look at this. 24:15, 18. And Moses went up into the mountain. A cloud covered the mount. And the glory of the Lord abode a pal. The glory of the Lord abode upon Mount Sinai. And the cloud covered it six days. In the seventh day, he called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud in the sight of the glory of the Lord was like devouring fire on the top of the mountain, the eyes of the children of Israel. And Moses went into the midst of the cloud and got him up into the mount. And Moses was in the Mount 40 days and 40 nights. In another place, it says he didn't eat or drink for 40 days and 40 nights. In other places, God tells him, hey, build this tabernacle according to the pattern that I showed you in the mountain. I'm not necessarily like a language expert. Not even necessarily, like, I'm not anything remotely close to a language expert, but I'm looking at that and he's saying, build the tabernacle a way that I showed you in the mount. Did he have a blueprint? Did he, like, roll out plans? Like, when you're on a construction site and say, okay, you came up on the mountain and I showed you the blueprint, or did he go into heaven? To me, it looks like when he went in the Mount, 40 days and 40 nights, like, he kind of went out of this realm. Dude, he went into the heavenly realm. Is that potentially when he was taken to the Mount of Transfiguration? Dare I say time travel? I don't know. I'm just saying God can put people in and out of the timeline however he wants.
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Co-host
There's a phenomenon with near death experiencers that do see, like, heavenly structures and.
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Matt
Then come back and build them.
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Co-host
Yeah, I mean, you'll see them all around like the dome, like structures that. These are things that people claim that they see in heaven when they do these NDEs. So that's an interesting thought as well.
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Matt
So I don't know, all I say all of this to say, like this was just one giant rabbit trail to say in regards to verse nine. I don't know. I don't know, dude. But there was a fight. I think it's in the book called the Testament of Moses and I think it's. I think it's somewhere else too. I don't know. There's other non biblical books that, or extra biblical books that make reference to this story. I don't know, dude. There's, there's a, there's a war over his body. I just think it's really intriguing, man. The life of Moses is super intriguing. And I think, yeah, he did go into heaven. He. I think he goes there twice. There's, there's, there's a story again of the second time where he goes up. We're not going to get into all that, but it's just a very intriguing story of how Moses life came to an end or did it? All right, now we're in verse 10. Now we're in verse 10. Let's, let's reference second Peter again. Let's reference second Peter two, verses one through three. Am I okay on time or is it getting boring or everything's good? Are people in the chat saying it's boring?
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Co-host
I don't know those. Hell yeah.
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Matt
Yeah. I just don't want it to get boring, bro. Like, there's nothing worse than when you're at church and then it's boring. You're just like, oh, but we got to cover a lot of scriptures, dude. We got to, we have to cross reference scripture all the time just to make sure everybody understands it's making sense. Like the, like the Bible in its completeness is saying the same thing. Okay, watch what Peter's saying. 2 Peter 2, 1, 3. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you. Can we just get this ingrained in us, man? The Bible's very clear. There's going to be fakers in the church. I know we've already said it, but I just think people are still really struggling with this, man. There is going to be fakers in the church. When you go to the church and you see fakers and hypocrisy and you say, I don't want to be a Christian, I don't believe the Bible because there's Hypocrites in the Church. Just understand that's validating the Scripture. That's validating the Scripture. Because the Scripture says that ahead of time. It says there's going to be fakers and hypocrites in the Church. There were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. So even among Christians, the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness damn. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you. Whose judgment now of a long time lingers not, and their damnation slumbers not. Through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you. Let's reference verse 12 also, because. Because he's. Again, he's going right back to what Jude said. These as natural brute beasts made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not and shall utterly perish in their own corruption. They're. They're. They are, with feigned words going to make merchandise of you. Of course they're going to make merchandise of you. All they know is the natural realm. All you are is a dollar sign to them. All you are is a digit to them in their system. Of course they're going to make merchandise of you. Can we pull up Blue Letter Bible? Because we're tight with Blue letter Bible again, right?
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Co-host
If you say so.
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Matt
No, I always have been. But now you are as well.
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Co-host
Yeah, we're good.
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Matt
Do we get into that or. No, let's do that on the next episode. We'll do it on the next one. Okay, but just so everybody knows, I was always cool. Blue Letter Bible. It's changed my life and I'm incredibly grateful to him. But the whole NDS team is good with BLB again, so everything's good and we love them.
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Co-host
What are we looking at?
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Matt
2 Peter 2, verse 3. I gotta say a thing that's got to be said. I got to say a thing real quick that's got to be said. Everybody, especially like in this crowd understands what it was like when you used to watch like CNN or Fox News or whatever, cbs, so called network news. That was all we had. Like that. Like, that was all we had. And we were always told that, like, oh, it has to be this way. It has to be like five or 10 minutes and to commercial because people are too stupid to like follow a three hour conversation. We were all told that, we all believed it because that's just what it was. Then this thing came along called podcast. And even specifically, we could owe the dude Joe Rogan a debt of gratitude for this, bro, because he kind of started to make people understand that, like you could watch Dr. Rhonda Patrick or Andrew Huberman or Goggins or whoever, you could watch these things for three hours, right? And you were digging it for three hours, man. And it was like, wait, man, that old model was so fake and so corrupt and so choreographed. It was such a fake model to where, like when we see that model today, that CNN model or that Fox News model, we go, oh, it's like cringy, bro. You're like, oh, this model is so fake. This is the same thing that we are kind of in a transition of in the church today. There's this very strange choreographed system. Like we said announcements, five songs in a speech. No problem if that's what got you to Christ. No problem. No problem if that's the thing that you're in right now. I'm just telling you we're in a transition. We're in a transition. The dude Nathan Apfel, I really think is the tip of the spear on this topic. I really think the religion business is going to expose it on a level that people are just not ready for. But they're going to slowly start understanding this. They're going to slowly start understanding that. This old CNN Fox News model, the 501C3, take people's money and build buildings, buy land, pay salaries, do all this stuff just like the world, make a franchise model that's coming to an end. And I know my brothers in Christ are gonna hate that I'm saying this, I get it, and I still love you. And I'm not saying I'm right, you're wrong. I'm just saying we're on the verge of something changing, man. Like there's access to people now through podcasts on a level that there never was before. Like the local preacher, maybe he's preaching to 200 in his church. I don't even know. I don't go. I haven't been a part of that system for 15 years, which people told me I'd be backslidden. They said, yeah, if you leave that system, you're going to be backslidden. I've been gone from that system for 15 years. I don't know if this is what Backslidden looks like to get up and read the scripture an hour before work every day for 15 years and have a wife that loves the Lord and children that love the Lord and have a Christian library where people do Bible studies and prayer groups and stuff. I don't know that that is what you would call backslidden, but this is where we're at. Like, this is where we're at today. There's people preaching on podcasts. Like, I even think the NDS thing with listening gets to whatever. However many thousands of views like that local model, I know people are going to hate it. It's going to become more and more irrelevant. I'm just being straight with you. In the same way that the choreographed CNN and Fox News has become more and more irrelevant day by day, this old model of the 501C3 system is going to become completely irrelevant. Can we pull up that BLB thing again in verse 3? Through covenant, through covetousness, shall they, with feigned words, make merchandise of you. Can we scroll down to like feigned? Well, let's see, let's see. Make merchandise too, because I think that's the word. Like emporium. Yeah, it's like emporium. They're going to make merchandise of you. But let's look at feigned. Let's look at feigned. What's, what's that definition there? Plastos. Let's look at the definition. Molded formed. Plastos, as in plastic. Has anybody else been around plastic preaching this choreographed thing that just seems very plasticky. It's very formed, it's very molded. It's very unnatural. Because with that, with that plastic preaching, they're going to make merchandise of you. Why? Because they only understand natural things. It's intellect, man. Like, they're just using intellect. They're just using like human reasoning, so called human wisdom. This is what they're doing. I'm telling you, man, that model's coming to an end. There's too many ways for people to really get at God now. Real ways. I mean, there always was. It's the Bible. Like, it's the Bible. But there's access to so much more good stuff. Like that was the context of the library was like if I grew from reading Spurgeon and Alexander White and G. Campbell Morgan, surely so can everybody else. And I think there's something that happens and maybe why some people are upset is like once you start to go down that path of the real stuff, the plastic stuff just won't cut anymore. It just won't do it.
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Co-host
Rough. It's rough. I'm just reading some of the comments. Rude, Very rude.
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Matt
Anyway, anyway, let's look at this, man. Let's look at 1 Corinthians 2, verses 11 through 16. Bro, I was gassed last week. It was at the end of a shift and it was just like, a little rough. I only like doing podcasts when it's like, go time. Like, let's go.
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Co-host
Well, you're gonna have to get better at that, man. You got a podcast when you got a podcast. Verse 11. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of a man which is in him. Even. So, the things of God knoweth no man but the spirit of God, right?
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Matt
You can't understand it by intellect. I don't care how many letters you have behind your name. I don't care what school you went to. You can only know the things of God by the spirit of God. Now, we have received not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God. So the spirit of the world is in direct conflict with the spirit of God. So if you have some system built on the spirit of the world, it's a worldly made system, it's in direct conflict with the spirit of God that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak not in the words which man's wisdom teaches. Here we are again, man. We keep talking about this, like, man's wisdom. Let me just explain a thing about man's wisdom. And this is why I keep saying we cross reference so many things. You'll hear a dude, like, say one little verse and then just go on this long sermon in regards to man's wisdom, right? He's just going on and on. A really good example to me that I always think of, of man's wisdom is when Jesus is hanging on the cross and they say, yo, if he was God, he could get himself down. That sounds like, like spot on theology to me, man. That sounds like flawless doctrine if that, if he was God, he could get down, no problem. The problem is it's man's wisdom. And the scripture says something different. Do you see what I'm saying? That's where man's wisdom will take you in. A lot of modern American stuff is just man's wisdom, bro. It, like, sounds good. And to Bible ignorant people, they just roll with it. They just roll with it. They're like, if they were in the crowd that day, they'd say, yeah, great point. I mean, after all That's a pharisee. He's the leader of the organized religious institution that claims to represent God. If he's saying that's not God because God could get himself down, surely he's right. That's man's wisdom. It's contradictory to the word of God. The only way to kill off man's wisdom is to consume the word of God ferociously. I'm telling you, man, like the day that we live in, if you're not ferociously consuming the word of God, you're just going to be stuck in man's wisdom. And you're going to be saying things that sound cool and people are going to like, but they're not going to be based on the word of God. And you're going to be able to fool people. And. And some people probably don't want to fool people, but they are fooling people with man's wisdom. This is point blank, though. Which things also, we speak not in the words which man's wisdom teaches. So Paul's. Paul's saying, like, bro, I'm very intentional not to speak of things that man's wisdom teaches. The letters behind my name mean nothing. Like, whatever stuff I learned in some worldly structure called a school or whatever. I don't teach that. I don't get down with that. I just get down with what the Holy Ghost teaches. That's what he says. Which things also we speak not in the words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Ghost teaches. Comparing spiritual things with spiritual. That's what we're saying. Comparing scripture with scripture. But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God for their foolishness unto him. Neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned. This is like so cut and dry, dude. But he that is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. I think what it's saying there. He that is spiritual understands all things, but he himself is understood of no man. Spiritual people aren't understood. For who had known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual. I can't talk to you like spiritual people, but only as unto carnal, even as unto babies in Christ. Oh, you've been in the church 50 years, no problem. You're still a babe in Christ. I can't speak to you. Spiritual things only carnal because you're a baby in Christ. I fed you with milk because you're a baby. And not with meat. For hitherto you were not able to bear it neither. Yet now are you able. So carnal Christians can't get it. It's not intellect holding them back, it's spiritual. Right, Let's look at Romans 8, 1, 11. We're wrapping up. Up. We're wrapping up.
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Co-host
So verse one starts off, there is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
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Matt
That's an incredible qualifier right there. Because you hear that there's now no more condemnation. Yeah, to who? To those that are in Christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Yeah. To them there's now no more condemnation. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus had made me free from the law of sin and death. Amen. Amen. There's no set of rules now. And the wisdom of God, he didn't give you a set of rules that you can check off because if he did, you'd check off those boxes and get back to your busy life. He says, no, no, we're not doing it like that. You have to live under the, this law of freedom. That's heavy. For what the law could not do and that it was weak through the flesh that you have this God given law and the flesh is somehow supposed to like go live by it. Good luck. Good luck, man. That's grace, right? Like we've been given grace. We've been given the Holy Spirit. We've been given the ability to obey God now because it's his spir living through us. It's not this list of rules that we comply with. We give him our whole life. And so whatever that looks like is what that looks like for what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh. God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh. And for sin, condemn sin in the flesh. This is so heavy. I, I'm not even going to dig into these verses. I'm going to get to what we're trying to get to. But we could spend a whole other two hours on this, on Romans 8. That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us who, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Remember, we keep coming back to this. Remember he's saying these dudes are like natural brute beast. They don't understand the Spirit, they only understand the flesh. Just like Paul says in the Galatian letter, walk in the spirit so you don't fulfill the lust of the flesh. This is who he's talking to those who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh. That's these dudes that Peter and Jude are talking about. They that are after the spirit. The things of the spirit. Why? Because to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God. Remember we were just talking about carnal Christians. Those who are not spiritual. They only understand the things of the flesh. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God, for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. That's the entire thing that Jude and Peter are referencing, dude. These leaders in the church that are still in the flesh, they're still carnal. They don't understand the things of the spirit. Let's just look. We're actually wrapping it up right now. That verse 7 says, because the carnal mind is enmity against God, for it is not subject to the law. God, neither indeed can be. Can we look at James 4:4, this word enmity on BLB?
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Co-host
Oh, yeah, I got it up here, too. This you want to pull up on blb.
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Matt
Is that cool?
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Co-host
Yeah. All right, here we go.
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Matt
Here we go again. Name calling. Remember we opened up with that name calling. Oh, that's not. Church. People don't do that. Bible writers do. You filthy dreamers, you white caskets, beautiful outside, inside full of dead men's bones. Here's James. You adulterers and adulteresses, know you not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God. Can we pull up the. Can we click on enmity? Let's scroll down a little bit because I think it's only in these two places. No, it's in a bunch of places. That must have been something else I was thinking of. But let's look at the definition of it. We scroll back up. That's weird. It didn't really give us a definition.
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Co-host
No.
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Matt
All right. It's strange because I looked it up. It means opposition, hostility and hatred. I don't know why it's not popping up right there.
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Co-host
It's. It's showing that it means hatred. Right here. See, that's.
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Matt
That's how it's translated. Five times it's translated enmity, and one time it's translated hatred. But the definition of the word. Oh, here we go. Here we go. Right there. Strongs femininity G2190. Hostility by implication or reason for opposition, enmity and hatred. So let's just read the verse again, man. You adulterers and adulteresses. If you scroll down, I can see it there too, or up. You adulterers and adulteresses, know you not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God. So what does that mean? It means whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. So we're wrapping up with this. I just want to make it clear that the Bible's very clear that there's educated enemies of God in the pulpit today. Let's just be plain about that. Let's just speak plainly. That's what Jude is going to great lengths to make clear. That's what all of these Croft references are going to great lengths to make clear. Understand that you will have no excuse for that because you have a Bible. And even in what we're doing now with all these cross references and finding out that the entirety of Scripture is all saying the same thing, this is a proof and a witness that this is written by God outside the realm of time. You have to dig into this and understand that there's no way 66 books by 40 different authors make sense like this. There's no way. There's no way, man, put this together. You have to come to the conclusion yourself that this has been the writing of God, that the author of the Bible is God. He had dudes that sat down and put pen to paper. But there's no way, man, is this organized to make this make sense and fit perfectly together like this? There's no way. And so although there's fakers in the day that we live in and in all the other days, this isn't the only time period with fakers. There's fakers. There's people leading people astray, knowingly and unknowingly. Paul talks about those who are deceived and go on deceiving, being deceived themselves. So there's that, right? A dude can be sincere and still be deceived. And then there's dudes who are just straight evil that know that they're leading people astray, probably for the money, but they're doing it anyway, no matter what. We will not have an excuse. We have the Bible. You have every ability to get into the word of God and seek these things out for yourself. So I just want to encourage people, go hard after the word of God, be very serious about it, diligently go after the Faith, earnestly contend for the faith and begin to know and love the Word of God. Fitting it together like puzzle pieces. I think people have to understand that it's like puzzle pieces, right? Like a puzzle is incredibly boring and difficult and hard. When you start a puzzle, it's very hard, it's very complicated. But slowly but surely, as you get the corners put in place, you get the side pieces put in place, you get six or eight piece, you go, oh, that's a cloud right there. Okay, now. Oh, it's a scene in a meadow and a cloud. Now it's making sense. It gets more and more exciting. The Word of God gets more and more exciting and more and more intriguing. The more and more you get into it, it makes more and more sense. The beginning is the hardest. The beginning of reading the Bible is the hardest time. And you have to be diligent and you have to be a disciple, which means you have discipline. You have a disciplined lifestyle, right? You discipline yourself to be in the Word of God because it's difficult in the beginning. You're contrasting a natural nature, a carnal nature, a fleshly nature with a spiritual nature. And it's difficult, especially in this day, because you have tick tock and Facebook and Instagram and all the other things to, like, lead you astray into these other things. Things. So you're in a war more than any people have ever been in a war over their soul. So I just want to encourage you to go hard. Know that you're in a war for your soul. Know that you have an enemy that's trying to drag you astray. But you be faithful and cling to the Word of God and cling to the author of the Word of God, because that's who you need to know. It.