Heaven Is Within You — Not in the Sky w/ Jacob Israel

Summary

Podcast Summary: Nephilim Death Squad

Episode: Heaven Is Within You — Not in the Sky w/ Jacob Israel

Host(s): TopLobsta, Raven (David Lee Corbo)
Guest: Jacob Israel
Date: October 23, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, TopLobsta and Raven host Jacob Israel—author, YouTuber ("Jacob's Ladder"), and former head writer for major Christian media. The conversation explores the intersection of conspiracy theories and Biblical teachings, diving into topics like the true nature of "heaven," the symbolism around Donald Trump, Christian nationalism, religious institutions, spiritual awakening, and the power of faith and language in shaping reality. Throughout, Jacob advocates for an inward, spiritually-anchored view of Christianity, emphasizing compassion over dogma, discernment over division, and the need to "wake up" to truth within ourselves.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Setting the Stage and Jacob's Background

• [05:43] Jacob introduces his platforms (YouTube, X) and novel "The Calling," reflecting on how its themes—originally overlooked—became relevant post-2020.
• [08:01] Shares his experience as head writer at Daystar and in WWE, observing the rise of Christian spaces in the mainstream.
• [09:27] Conversation on resisting corporatized religion; Jacob champions faith practices outside IRS-registered (501c3) church institutions.

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2. Heaven: Not in the Sky, but Within

• [11:01] Jacob redefines "heaven":

  "The kingdom of heaven ... is righteousness, peace and joy and power in the Holy Ghost. So it's right thinking, it's peace and it's joy in God's spirit. That's what heaven is. ... The kingdom of heaven is within you."
  (Jacob Israel, 11:01)

• Heaven is described as a present, internal state (not an afterlife location). Religion, he argues, misuses the concept to manipulate and control.
• Memorable Moment: Jacob's vivid analogy about the oyster and pearl—"life is through suffering."

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3. Trump, Prophecy, and Biblical Archetypes

• [14:31] Jacob draws parallels between modern figures and Biblical stories:
  • Trump as Nebuchadnezzar, King Cyrus, and Jehu—flawed leaders whom God uses for greater purposes.
  • Trump's roles not only repeat history but reflect archetypal cycles; humanity faces the same spiritual tests and opportunities for awakening.

"It's the story ... again and again ... people are murdered, and horrible things happen, but I put out and I say, let me tell you what's going to happen ... I use my faith. So instead of seeing the worst and saying that this is, I'm saying the war is over now."
(Jacob Israel, 63:02)

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4. Christian Nationalism and the Politics of Identity

• [24:24] Jacob critiques literalist, exclusionary takes on Israel and Christianity:
  • "Israel isn't a literal place ... it's a people. You could be Israel ... not even know it because we were lost and scattered."
  • Followers of Christ should be defined by inner transformation, not ethnic, political, or denominational labels.
• Discusses the tension between spiritual revival and political movements—Christian nationalism—arguing the Kingdom of God is internal and transcends nation-states.
• [53:03]:

  "Render unto Caesar ... we're passing through here. ... A galvanization to Christian nationalism ... not for the right reasons, but for almost spite."

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5. Baptism: Ritual vs Spiritual Reality

• [36:50] Raven discusses his upcoming baptism, prompting Jacob’s nuanced take:
  • Notes the Greek "baptizo"—to immerse—and says true baptism comes via immersion in the word and spirit.
  • Literal water baptism can be meaningful, but spiritual transformation is the true mark:

    "You're being baptized now. ... If someone is sharing the word of God and the truth of God, you're being baptized."
    (Jacob Israel, 40:55)

  • The real baptism is "by fire"—hardship and revelation purifying the soul.
• [42:01] Jacob debunks eternal damnation, emphasizing that torment in scripture refers to transformative testing (not endless torture).

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6. Faith, Language, and Manifestation

• Jacob stresses the biblical/spiritual importance of language:

  • Words create reality (positive or negative)—what we speak over ourselves shapes our world.
  • [73:02]

    "If we stop cursing our lives and we start speaking life over it—'I am happy. Life is good. I am blessed.' ... I think things would be better. That's what Jesus taught."

• Hosts and Jacob swap anecdotes about "spell-casting," media manipulation (Mockingbird media), and the need for collective positive vision.

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7. Navigating Divisive Times: Compassion over Division

• Jacob repeatedly cautions against generalization and division—whether by religious, political, or cultural labels especially in online discourse.
• Urges compassion and understanding toward marginalized groups; reminds the audience God "looks to the heart":

  "God doesn't look to the flesh. The flesh profits nothing. The works of the flesh ... fade away. The inward man is what's renewed day to day. ... God doesn't care about any of this stuff."
  (Jacob Israel, 91:27)

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8. The Role of Suffering and Story in Spiritual Growth

• [97:06] Jacob: The Bible runs through archetypes—first man (Ego/carnal/fallen), second man (spirit/Christ).
• Suffering, both personal and collective, produces growth, empathy, and an opportunity for spiritual rebirth.

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9. Closing Reflections & Fun

• [102:57] Favorite closing question: "Are you having fun?" Jacob, despite hardships (recent accident, tinnitus), expresses gratitude and joy in helping people, teaching, and "having fun."
• Light moments as they discuss WWE/John Cena, pop culture, and the surreal moments that connect Jacob’s life with his message.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On Heaven as a Present State
  "You can't say, look here or look there. Behold, the kingdom of heaven is within you."
  (Jacob Israel, 11:01)

• On Religious Manipulation
  "Religion dangles a carrot ahead of you ... then it manipulates you into thinking a certain way, voting a certain way and sending your money in. ... But it's necessary, and I think it's still a good thing."
  (Jacob Israel, 12:45)

• On Spiritual Power
  "With faith, you could say to the mountain, be cast into the sea. ... I think the listener has more power than they know."
  (Jacob Israel, 68:41)

• On Compassion
  "God looks to the heart. ... They need to be nurtured, they need to be encouraged so they can find things out."
  (Jacob Israel, 91:27)

• On Words as Spellcraft
  "That's the sword. ... That tongue, it cuts both ways."
  (Jacob Israel, 43:32)

• On the Role of Suffering
  "Our hard times, they're producing something ... life is through suffering. Even Jesus, the scripture says that he learned obedience through the things he suffered."
  (Jacob Israel, 11:01)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [05:43] Jacob's intro and book background
• [11:01] Heaven as an internal reality
• [14:31] Trump/Nebuchadnezzar/Cyrus archetype
• [24:24] Israel as spiritual concept; Christian nationalism
• [36:50] Baptism—external ritual vs. internal transformation
• [53:03] Christian nationalism as a reaction
• [63:02] Faith, language, and real-world manifestation
• [73:02] Words shape collective and personal destiny
• [91:27] Compassion for marginalized communities
• [102:57] Are you having fun? Jacob's closing reflection

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Takeaways

• The kingdom is within: True spiritual transformation is internal, accessible now, not deferred to a distant afterlife.
• Archetypes repeat: Modern leaders and current events often embody Biblical stories—offering lessons if we’re awake to them.
• Rituals matter most when they reflect inner change: Baptism and religious forms are meaningful only insofar as they reflect deeper shifts in heart and mind.
• Words, faith, and vision have real power: What we collectively believe and speak can shape outcomes, both personal and societal.
• Reject division, practice compassion: Trivial, superficial divides distract from the real work of awakening and loving others as self.
• Spirituality is for everyone: The show closes on a note of humility and joy—spirituality is not just for the holy, but for the flawed, the seekers, and all who long for meaning.

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Find Jacob Israel:

• YouTube: Jacob Israel / Jacob's Ladder
• X: @JacobIsrael71
• Book: The Calling: The Book of Thomas James (Amazon)

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For listeners and the spiritually curious, this episode exemplifies the stated purpose of Nephilim Death Squad: blending open-minded, sometimes conspiratorial inquiry with a grounding, ultimately hopeful Biblical perspective.

Transcript

[Jacob Israel]

Hey, this is Sarah.

[Commercial Announcer]

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[Jacob Israel]

Needs, but they've just got it all. So farewell. Oatmeal. So long, you strange soggy. Break up with bland breakfast and taste AM PM's bacon, egg and cheese biscuit made with Ktree eggs, smoked bacon and melty cheese on a buttery biscuit. AMPM Too much good stuff.

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[Jacob Israel]

Hey, this is Sarah.

[Commercial Announcer]

Look, I'm standing out front of a.m. p.m. Right now and, well, you're sweet and all, but I found something more fulfilling, even kind of cheesy. But I like it.

[Jacob Israel]

Sure, you met some of my dietary needs, but they've just got it all. So farewell, Oatmeal. So long, you strange soggy. Break up with bland breakfasts and taste AM PMs bacon, egg and cheese biscuit made with K tree eggs, smoked bacon and melty cheese on a buttery biscuit. AM PM Too much Good stuff.

[Top Lobster]

Top Lobster Productions.

[David Lee Corbo]

We are being hypnotized by people like this.

[Jacob Israel]

News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. People. The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely enormous. Oh, yeah, dude, there's Some Nephilim. It's like we all know what's going down but no one's saying what happened to the home of the brave they control us now when no one's talking about how they made us try to be slaves and everybody's just walking around heading the clouds I want to wake up to a dead in the grave finally too late we need to be ready to raise up welcome to the end of the Everybody is slaves Only some are aware that the government releasing poison in the air.

[David Lee Corbo]

Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven. That is Top Lobster.

[Jacob Israel]

The father.

[Top Lobster]

I feel like I'm so. Are you.

[David Lee Corbo]

Are you.

[Top Lobster]

Are you far out Too tiny. Oh, man. It's a little too much now.

[David Lee Corbo]

We can't.

[Top Lobster]

We're good.

[David Lee Corbo]

I feel like this needs to be tapped, too. We didn't set up any of this anyway, guys, welcome back to another episode. Before we get started, just a little reminder, sometime around the half an hour mark, we're gonna go live exclusively to Patreon.com forward slash Nephilim death Squad. Sign up there and continue. We don't even have it pulled up. This is all by the seat of our pants. All right. We've been really kind of grinding as we've landed today. Our ship and patreon.com is where you're going to want to be when we go live exclusively to that place at the half an hour mark. If you sign up for what. What do we. What's even the thing.

[Top Lobster]

You're gonna have to tap my screen, but yeah, we got Top lobster dot com. You can buy shirts, but we got the shirts on here.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yeah.

[Jacob Israel]

It's all backwards.

[Top Lobster]

Is that right? Yeah, this is.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't know why it's backwards. Anyway, guys, patreon.com today. Joining us once again, this is actually a really hard show to schedule because I don't know if Jacob is on the opposite side of the.

[Jacob Israel]

The.

[David Lee Corbo]

The country. Jacob, are you in California?

[Jacob Israel]

I mean, you're in New York. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Why is this thing so hard to schedule?

[Top Lobster]

By his accent.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's true.

[Jacob Israel]

And I really don't know. I just, you know, I'm Long Island. I don't know. It's like, you know, you pick the time. I picked the time, you know, and seemed very hard to me. It was like I reached out to Top yesterday and I was like, hey, you know, you need somebody for your show tomorrow? I'm feeling vibes. And next thing you know, I'm here I am.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, well, maybe it's a lot easier than I thought because I remember looking.

[Top Lobster]

No, no, it wasn't because he messaged me after. He's like, see you at three, bro. And I was like, it says, yeah, you know why?

[Jacob Israel]

Because I'm not really that bright. Okay. I'm not that bright because it said like three o'. Clock. Like I missed the whole U2 UTC thing. You know, I just, when I see three. Yeah. It's like, we'll see you three to five. I'm just thinking three to five. I was like, oh, okay. They just changed the time. So being the, you know, the very responsible 54 year old man that I am, I reached out and I said, hey, I'll see you at 3. Because I was like, I wanted to make sure. Could you imagine that I wouldn't be here?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, well, I'm glad that we got it done because I was looking at your page pretty recently and I'm like, why haven't we had Jacob back on? And then I realized, yeah, there's like some sort of whatever you lack as well.

[Jacob Israel]

My life, you know, that's what it is. So busy. I have so many children and amazing wife and lots of work to do. So that's. Yeah, I think it's because it's, it's meant to be. When it's meant to be, like we started 1111 and I'm, you know, come on, I'm a wit.

[David Lee Corbo]

We were gonna start at, at 1109, but that's 911 backwards, inverted. And we said we can't do that. That's off to a really horrifying start. Before we even get into the conversation though, Jacob, let's tell everybody where they can find you and what it is that you, that you focus on.

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah, well, you can find me on YouTube. Jacob Israel on YouTube. It's Jacob's Ladder on YouTube too. You can find me either way on X. I'm at Jacob Israel, 71. I got a novel. It's called the Calling. Where is it? It's over here. It's a great book. It's like, it was an Amazon bestseller. It's like, really? You want to read a book? You've never read a book before? Check it out. It's called the Calling. So that's it. Those are my plugs. Those are my plugs.

[David Lee Corbo]

That was easy. That was fast.

[Top Lobster]

I didn't, didn't realize that you wrote a book. That's right. Yeah, man.

[Jacob Israel]

Best selling. Best selling. It was an Amazon bestseller, but it took a long Time. Because I wrote it and first released it in 2008. And the Christian company that published it, they turned out to be crooks. So I took the rights back and I waited. And ironically, the book was. Had to do with 2020, and it was just released a couple of years ago again. So it did very well. You know, it's. It's amazing. You have an idea that one day something will happen. First time you put it out there, nothing. Boob kiss. You get people robbing you, you know, then you wait how many years, Next thing you know, boom. You know, people are going through a hard time. They don't get that there's. There's. There's the rainbow and then there's the treasure on the other side. Right. I'm not talking.

[David Lee Corbo]

I think it's all. A lot of it is. Is. Is God's time. That's what I'm becoming comfortable with. I was actually having a conversation here at the coffee shop because we. We have a studio in a coffee shop. Shout out to the Standard Coffee Shop.

[Jacob Israel]

Shout out.

[Top Lobster]

Yes, live from the Standard Coffee Shop. Christian library and coffee lounge.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's right.

[Top Lobster]

It's like Standard clcl.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't know.

[Top Lobster]

Not the greatest name. We'll talk with Matt about it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Standard Coffee Shop. And I was having a conversation with one of the.

[Top Lobster]

David's been getting soft on us is what he's trying to say.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, but. Because I'm talking to people now, where I talk, I used to not talk.

[Jacob Israel]

To people, wrapping my mind around the whole thing. You have a Christian bookstore in. In your coffee.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's not a bookstore, it's a library. So. So you go up front for the coffee, which, you know, shout out the Standard coffee shop. Wonderful coffee. I've got myself a latte here. I have myself an iced coffee. What you do is you stumble on through a set of doors and the back opens up and it's a Christian library. So. So you're not. You're not purchasing any books. You're hanging out, you're reading. You have.

[Jacob Israel]

Very cool. You know, I was. I was the head writer for, like, the largest Christian television network in the world. Right. And I love it.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, yeah, you told us.

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah, yeah. And so it's interesting to see everything kind of come full circle because when I was working there at. It was. It's daystar, and they're going through. They're going through some stuff. They're going through a rebrand right now. You know, I kind of like, God brought me to all these different places. I Was also in World Wrestling for a little while. Wwe. And it's just strange to see, like, now everybody's very, like, the fact that you have a Christian library, that's something that was dying and dead for so long. And I, you know, I'm excited to see it happen is what I'm getting at. It's like everything's becoming very much like mainstream Christianity today. I think it's pretty cool.

[Top Lobster]

Well, I wish Matt was here.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, to condemn the 501 C3. Yeah.

[Jacob Israel]

Because the reason.

[Top Lobster]

The reason he started this is to fly in the face of the 501C3 church structure. So it's basically. He's like, he wanted to open up a Christian library, but there's no money in it. So he's like, I'll just sell coffee from the front. And the guy grinded to get it done. The place is beautiful. He's got two locations now. But yeah, he. I think he's had very much the same struggles that you and I have had with the idea of the corporate.

[Jacob Israel]

Did he get this 503C? Did he get status?

[David Lee Corbo]

No, no, no. I mean, that's what he was pushing against. Yeah. Because.

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah, that's why I left all that. I don't, you know, nobody ties to me. I left all that. And I share and teach stuff that, like, people should. Should be learning. You know, I've been giving it away for free for a long time on my website. Yeah. So I'm glad that he was pushing against it because I don't think that, you know, I think that if their taxes in the land, you gotta, you know, and everybody's got to pay him. What makes you special because what. You're doing the right thing. You don't think God's gonna bless you, but so good. I'm kind of glad that you're getting away from that. That business model.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's an interesting time, though. You're right.

[Jacob Israel]

We're.

[David Lee Corbo]

We're experiencing this resurgence, and I think that's kind of a lot of what we're gonna end up talking about here today. You could call it a revival. And. And I'm certainly not going to turn my nose up to that expression. I have my reservations about the nature of. Of this revival. Right. Is are we truly moving towards maybe a Christian nationalism? Is that good? What does that really mean? But we were talking a little bit off air about maybe talking about this Trump thing. And I think an interesting place to start the conversation might be recently where I. I forgot who it was. But they're championing Trump because of this huge donation that he's given to. Was it the Catholic Church? I forget exactly what it is. I know I saw it on, on, on, on Twitter, but the expression that this person used, I don't know if it was like Matt Gates or something like that was saying that he. What was the expression? I'm going to paraphrase, I'm going to butcher it. But it was something to the effect of like, you know, he's, he's already into heaven. He almost effectively saying not his way into heaven.

[Jacob Israel]

Heaven isn't even what everybody says it is. So this is the irony. Let me just tell you what heaven is. The kingdom of heaven, it's written in the Bible. The kingdom of heaven is not e. It's not like a place where you're having a big feast. It's righteousness, peace and joy and power in the Holy Ghost. So it's right thinking it's peace and it's joy in God's spirit. That's what heaven is. That's why he said, the kingdom of heaven is in you. It's not, it's not like coming. You can't say, look here or look there. Behold, the kingdom of heaven is within you. So all this nonsense, Trump's like, I can't get into heaven. I'm not going to get into heaven. Or I can get into heaven if I get the war one. All of that stuff. It's like, you know, religion has put heaven so far into the future. It's like you live your life and, you know, you sow your, your money into the religious system. You give them enough of their, their money when they're walking around. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's ironic to me. People don't even know what heaven is. Heaven is not the, The Pearly Gates is an allegory of a life that is lived through suffering. Because when the oyster suffers with that granule sand, it produces an oyster. So our life is through suffering. Even Jesus, the, the scripture says that he learned obedience through the things he suffered. You know, so our hard times, they're producing something. But to get into the kingdom of heaven, it's not something that's coming in the distance. It's here. Now, Jesus has said this, but, you know, this is what religion does. It dangles a carrot ahead of you and it gets you to buy into it, and then it manipulates you into thinking a certain way, voting a certain way and sending your money in. So religion is. But it's Necessary, and I think it's still a good thing. I'm sorry.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's interesting. I. I pulled up that. That one of the tweets because I wasn't aware of what you were talking about initially, Jacob, where. Where Trump is, because I've seen a tweet for him before, saying something to the effect of like, I don't know if I'm getting into heaven. But two days ago, there's a whole clip. I sent it to the production room chat, and he's going on a tangent, talking about, I don't know if they're gonna let me into heaven. I like to watch that a little bit because it's interesting. I. You know, there. There's that. What would you call clairvoyance Psychic? Darren, I think his name was. He. He was famous for predicting that there was going to be a shot taken at Trump. And one of the things that he said is that after this shot is taken at Trump, Trump's gonna become on fire for the Lord. Now, I've been in a weird position because I've been watching this.

[Jacob Israel]

Stuff he's predicted. It's ridiculous.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah. And now he's saying stuff about three.

[Jacob Israel]

Oh, my goodness, go to my page. You want to tell. You know, I don't go out and shouting about predictions and everything else. I mean, Jerry, I had a dream about Jared Kushner in Israel with a peace deal exactly one year before it actually happens. This happens to anybody who seeks God. You know, the problem is people are putting their faith in the wrong religion. That's the problem. You know, when. When Pilate offered. He came out, you know, pilot. Pontius Pilot. The guy that, you know, was like, what do you want me to do with this guy? He brought out Jesus Christ and Jesus Barabbas. He brought out these two Jesuses to all the people. Kind of like Elon comes out with the dish, the hands, you know, the hand basin, and he comes with the idea. What do you guys want? You. You want Trump back on. You want this person back on you? You know, he came up with an expression, the voice of the people. The voice of God in Latin, right? Same thing. Pontius Pilate. Who do you.

[Top Lobster]

I never put that together.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's.

[Top Lobster]

That's an interesting correlation.

[David Lee Corbo]

Elon thing.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. He's like, let that sink in when.

[Jacob Israel]

He walks out, right? That's Pontius Pilate, who's the Imperator of Rome. Ironically, Elon Musk has a title, the Imperator of Mars. You don't. Elon's the Boss man. So then what does he do? He decides who's gonna be released to the people. And who do they want? Do they want Jesus Christ? Do they want someone who's humble and kind and peaceful and says, no, I'm sorry, you. You can't be, you know, going off on people because they look different. You can't be taking your guns to the street because someone offends you. That's the Jesus that Barabbas is all about. Barabbas is all like, he was a revolutionary. He was a killer. He was. He was very religious, but only to this, to the way that it would. It would profit him and benefit him. The people didn't want Jesus Christ. They wanted Jesus Barabbas. Same name. But it's ironic because that's. That's what's being offered to the public today. You know, even. Even Donald Trump Jr. Said. And listen, I love, you know, our president. I gotta tell you this. I love him. He's my favorite character of the apocalypse. I knew he was gonna be president. I knew he was gonna be president long before anybody. When everybody thought he was gonna win the first time, I had this weird dream about him. It's called the coffin dream. If you go to my X page, you can find all this stuff out. And I said, he's gonna lose, but he's gonna come back like a king. I. I told everybody this was going to happen. This is what's happening. He's Nebuchadnezzar of old. He's King Cyrus, for crying out loud. They're calling him Cyrus now. I just released a video. If people want to go to my YouTube. Jacob Israel on YouTube just did a video about all this, about the. The madness of how I knew it was coming. And now here it is. And I've envisioned and hope for a world where there's actual peace. And here it is, and everybody's like, world War Three is happening next. But that's not what's happening next. There's something else that's happening. We'll get into it in the show.

[David Lee Corbo]

Not.

[Jacob Israel]

Not the way I see it. It's the story. Get a liar. We'll get into it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, listen, Jacob, I kind of want to go back to what you just touched on there, because I think that's really important. We've talked about it on this show, right? We have the commission coins. It's King Cyrus next to Donald Trump. And you're right, recently there was this thing. They're calling him King Cyrus, but they're calling him like they're they're saying it's outright, I think he's like on a stage and, and you know, this is what they're, they're likening him to King Cyrus. Can you talk a little bit about who, who King Cyrus was and what the significance of likening to likening Donald Trump to him is?

[Jacob Israel]

Well, you know, the irony with this is that you can find one man plays you. You've probably seen that Shakespeare quote. One man in his day plays many parts. All the world's a stage. The first the in muling and puking and it goes on.

[Top Lobster]

That's David's whole thing, man.

[Jacob Israel]

So what I'm getting at. Yeah. And I was, yeah, I, I, I studied Shakespeare. I love Shakespeare. I love, you know, art is so important and words are so important. That's their spells that we cast. So it's better to kind of err on the side of goodness.

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[Jacob Israel]

Astro and Pendleton salutes the men and women of our military and and veterans for the sacrifices they've made. Keep them in your thoughts, prayers and letters from home until these trying times are over. Our troops are fighting hard around the clock to defend our great country and keep freedom alive worldwide. For this, we salute them and may God bless America. This from Astro on Southgate in Pendleton, reminding you we live in the land of the free. Thanks to the brave, everybody plays a different part. Same is true in the Bible. Okay, there's an Old belief that, you know, souls are. Are not just, you know, it's not the end, but you're, like, reincarnated, that we come back and especially for the judgment where they talk about all the dead that are raised at the end day. So according to scripture, we would be in the end day from everybody that was ever made and in time would be here as we exist. What I'm getting at is that Trump doesn't just fit one role. He fits a lot of roles. The story plays out so clearly that it's kind of hard to ignore King Nebuchadnezzar. He. This is how I knew Trump was going to lose everything. I did a video about him losing everything right before he lost the election where he was going to be cut down because the story Nebuchadnezzar was, he was so great, and he was going to establish world peace and he was going to do it all. And what happened was he got a little proud and he's, you know, he said, look at all that I've done. He forgot that the Lord was the one that chose to use him. And what ends up happening is Nebuchadnezzar is cut down, he loses all his power, and then he ends up, like, being hunted. And he's in. You know, he's in the weeds and he's in. He becomes, literally becomes a beast.

[Top Lobster]

Now, a lot of people, we actually are, after our episode here, we got Matt coming in and we're doing a film finishing up our Bible study on Daniel. So we're doing, like, chapters 11 and 12. But, yeah, that was chapter seven or something like that.

[Jacob Israel]

So Daniel's just went through that thing. Do you know that President Trump said his inauguration. There was the. The Bible chapter that I was doing in the Book of Daniel. They recited the prayer where Daniel was talking about Nebuchadnezzar. That was the last prayer that was read to Donald Trump before he was sworn in. Now, Nebuchadnezzar, the story with him is he gets cut down, but there's a root. So I did this video right before. I think it's like, right before the inauguration, maybe a couple of weeks before. And I said, everybody right now is thinking that it's over. And I said, look, there's a root in the ground. And I said, you know what? If he humbles himself because Nebuchadnezzar ends up humbling himself, if he. If he realizes what he lost and he becomes, say, a man of God for the people, God is going to restore his throne. So here we Have. And Nebuchadnezzar doesn't mess around, man. Nebuchadnezzar was probably the originator of FAFO that we hear. You know, he. He said that the laws would change when Nebuchadnezzar came in. When Trump came in, the laws changed. He said that, you know, we're going to do things speedily and swiftly, but he was also about, like, maintaining the status quo. He wasn't going to tell people how to, you know, to believe, but he wanted peace. He puts this guy in charge called Get a Liah and Get a liar, ends up being murdered, and then the whole thing goes and falls apart, which is what I'm sort of worried about. I have this vibe that, you know, Trump is going to put somebody in charge of that reason and everything's. And then something's going to happen where maybe somebody ends up, God forbid, losing their life, you know, but. Because that's the story. And then what would happen is forget about all the peace in the area and everything else. Then it'll be like real. Real panic and real sudden destruction would come to that area if that story plays out. But right now, Nebuchadnezzar, his story is. It's like, it's here, you know, And Nebuchadnezzar was the kind of guy, he wouldn't say he was getting into heaven. He was very honest with himself. You know, at one point, he probably thought that he was a God. But Cyrus was another man who was known. He was the one that basically gave back the temple. Then there was a king named Jihu who was like a businessman who, you know, they wanted him to come in, and he ends up doing this. He gets all the people together. He gets everybody thinking that he's on their page. Would be almost like Trump with the whole. The files, you know, be like, the files. Oh, they're not being released, and everybody thinks, oh, he's doing something wrong. But really what Jihu did was he invited everybody in to this one temple of baal, you know, that would be like the bath format today. So there with all the Illuminati signs and everything else. So this temple of baal, he brings them all in, and what does he do? He murders all of them, destroys them. And at that point, he turns that temple into a toilet, a literal toilet. He God.

[Top Lobster]

Was this the king that was dealing with Jezebel?

[Jacob Israel]

This is King Jehu? Yes. All of. Yes. Yeah, yeah. I mean, and this is what God is doing in the land today. But God doesn't use kid gloves. When he's changing things, right, he uses a heavy hammer. You don't think that, you know, the Vatican and Rome and you don't think that that's still, I mean, look, the Knights Templar, they've been a thing. I've been saying that you, I said there'll be a day when it'll be, they'll have parades, they're having parade. You know, this is the Crusades and it's such an amazing time to be alive, especially for people that are going to do good in the world because the, the, the jerk offs not going to be so great. It's not going to be easy, you know, but it's, it's going to be okay.

[David Lee Corbo]

What do you think about this idea that since the passing of Charlie Kirk, we're experiencing a revival and that it seems to have some elements of Christian nationalism? Where do you fall on, on that idea specifically? Is Christian nationalism something that, you know, you'd want to see or do you think it's, it's got its dangers.

[Jacob Israel]

First of all, let me say to your audience, okay, my last name's Israel, okay? These guys have been so nice to me, so good to me. You know, I'm not Jewish or anything, but, but I'm Israel, right? So obviously, you know, I would have some kind, because I get, I get threats, I get people attacked because I got a big nose. I got a big Italian nose too, you know, So I get, I get like memes sent to me all the time. And, and people don't get it. They just see Jacob, Israel, and you know, that, that's, that's that. But Israel isn't a literal place. It's not, it's, it's a. People like you could be Israel, both of you could be. And not even know it because we were lost and scattered when, when Nebuchadnezzar was in Jeremiah and everybody fleed. They flee and where do they go? They ended up in Scotland. Where's Donald Trump from? Where's his family from?

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Jacob Israel]

So the line of David literally was in that area. Okay, My father was in the area. I never met my father. He left. But I'm Irish and Italian half and half. My point is, is that, you know that stone of Scone, the one that the, you probably heard when he got coronated, the king? That was the stone. It's Jacob's pillow. And this, the story is Jacob from the Bible. He was, you know, traveling in one place and he falls asleep and he has a dream of a ladder, much like the ladder behind me. Like I had a dream of Jacob's ladder being a YouTube channel. Here it is, nothing new. Under the sun. Here's Jacob in his ladder, right? He has this vision of God. Angels of God ascending and descending. And what is an angel of God? It's a messenger of truth. And what are we getting right now? Somebody who understands something higher, bringing it down, something lower, projecting it into the world. Christ is that ladder. And people don't. They're waiting for somebody to come, but not understanding that the word come means to be revealed, to be manifested. Erkame and Greek. In Greek, the scriptures say that Christ in you is the hope of glory. And where is Christ? In his kingdom. And where's his kingdom? Behold, the kingdom of God is within you. Point to your, to your temple. Where's the temple of God? Where does God sit? Right here. Where was Jesus put to death? At the place of the skull. Golgotha. Where's the skull? Skulls. Right here. Where was the way to truly live your life? The way, the truth and life put the death right here in your thinking. Christ is in us now and people are waiting for a carrot because that's what's being dangled. But I believe that he was gonna return, even though that God never left, never forsook us. In scripture, there's no return. There is a coming. And it's not just one. It is a body. Because the scriptures say we are supposed to be the body of Christ. We are given the name of Christ. We are to take the mind of Christ in the book of Revelation. That's who we're supposed to be. So when Jesus was talking to his disciples and he said to his disciples, he said, how can you say show us the Father? How are you going to tell me, Show, Show. Show you God. Here I am. Here I am. How do you not know God through me? How do you not know Christ through me? Because we're all one. So religion will put things outside of you. And that was Adam's sin. He was cast out of the garden. That's the first Adam. That's okay for them to go to get baptized by John the Baptist. John the Baptist, according to Jesus Christ, ironically. And they were cousins, I don't know if you knew this. There was a six month difference in between them. Six is the number of man. John's a picture of the religious man. John's a picture of the. The big revival that we see happening in the land. Christ has to go there to get baptized. And guess what word he uses? Suffer. Suffer. It to be so. Because we all have to get. We get baptized into religion and we're going to suffer for it. But. But out of that death comes life, comes resurrection. That's why Christ's ministry couldn't start until John the Baptist was beheaded. He didn't even. John didn't even know. He said, you know, is it really you? Because my life is tough. Is it really you? You know, I just had to replace my roof. I got my fridge. Is this really you, Jacob? Are you serious? Am I doing the right thing here? Working two jobs now? Right? So John, that first man, he's. It's a necessary evil to get us. And I'm not calling John the Baptist evil, although he did wear what was against the law, animal pelt, and ate wild locust and honey and screamed non stop. Repent, repent, repent. Which is the religious people, they, like the poet, point out problems. That's why he was given Herod such a big, big deal. And Herod's wife wanted him put to death. Salome, the daughter. So the religious man is what you're seeing in the land. I believe. I believe the religious man gets us to where we need to be. Ultimately. You know, the whole thing with that church where you start talking about something outside of what the church doctrine is, that could be a problem in the future. But I'm not gonna believe that. I think that things are going to move in the right direction. Politically, that's a different story. But spiritually, we're going to be all okay, because how could we not? Because Christ died in us.

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[Jacob Israel]

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[Jacob Israel]

Seaman mobile.com check this out. You want to get, you want to get blown away. Imagine Christ spiritually dying so that you could live. That Christ, which is the power and wisdom of God, is our life according to scripture. So I'm not going to reduce, you know, the spirit of the living God to, you know, energy or a life force, but that's what birthed us, that died. The connection died so that we could live, so Jacob could come out, the first man, Jacob. But then at some point, Jacob and that Christ within that died for Jacob to live. Now Jacob has to die so the two could become one. Your ego, man has to die. In scripture, it's filled with, with, with this first man, second man, first man, second Adam, which means mankind, humanity, mankind as a whole. The first Adam brings death into the world. Now, according in scripture, death is not just physically dying because when they ate of that tree, he didn't physically die for a long time, right? But the instant he ate of that tree, he literally died spiritually. And that's what matters more. He ate of the tree, mankind. So we eat of that tree, the knowledge of good and evil. We start thinking, you know, your name is this. You have to believe this way, you have to do this, you have to do that. And then you're taught God is some far, so far away out there, beyond the Milky Way. One day someone's going to come back riding a horse. And if you're. But, but the story then traps us in this lie that isn't true. And the Christ in us that died now has to rise again. When does it rise again? At the judgment. When does the judgment take place? When hard times happen to snap us out of it, to finally get us to go. Lord, teach me the truth, no matter what the cost, which is like a big prayer on my channel. Teach me the truth. Forget about, like, going and saying the recited words and saying, you're saved. Well, good luck with that. Good luck with that. Because it's not about what happens after death. It's about what happens now. Jesus said, what? I am the way, the truth and the life. Jesus said, I am the resurrection of the dead. When he was talking about Lazarus in the tomb, Martha was like, oh, we wish you'd been here, Lord. He wouldn't have died if. If only you would come sooner instead of farting around with your friends. And Jesus is like, he died so that I could show you. So that spirit dies and, and what? He says, I'm the resurrection. If he hears the truth of God, though he is dead, he shall rise. And he didn't say, that's going to happen on the last day. That's what Martha thought. Martha thought that the resurrection was gonna. We know it's gonna happen on the last day, Lord, but it doesn't happen on the last day. It happens the instant you can hear the truth and Christ comes and you wake up to the. The union, the marriage, the. The wedding that takes place. But the problem is you got a lot of virgins that got no oil, so.

[David Lee Corbo]

You got a lot of virgins that got no oil. What a dismount. All right, all right, all right.

[Top Lobster]

That.

[David Lee Corbo]

I got a lot of questions now, but before we get there, it's the. The half an hour mark, so why don't we do this? We're gonna go live exclusively to Patreon.com if you want to continue watching this episode, engaging in the live chat, all of the perks that come with it, early access to episodes ad free viewing experiences, it's. Etc. Patreon's where you're going to want to be. Otherwise, give it a week or so and this episode will drop in its entirety. So goodbye to everybody but the Patreon members. So. So I don't know where to start. I actually, you know what? I want to. I want to hit you with another question and this is something that you're asking about.

[Top Lobster]

Baptism.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, like.

[Jacob Israel]

Well.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, wow, that's weird. Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, I know. I know what you're thinking.

[David Lee Corbo]

Don't do that. I don't see.

[Top Lobster]

It's written all over.

[David Lee Corbo]

You don't know what I. Jacob, what are your thoughts on. On baptism? Baptism as the church does it. Baptism.

[Jacob Israel]

How did you like yours?

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I mean. Oh, I'm getting baptized. This.

[Jacob Israel]

You just were. You just were.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, so. So that's what I'm wondering. It's like yeah, you just were right. So, so I'm, I'm going on this, this path and for the people who watch the show, my, my deal with it, at least from, from my personal perspective is I came to the realization that, that Jesus Christ was a central component, that the Bible has a lot to offer. And I was going to explore this and I was going to do it, you know, on a show with an audience. And so we've been doing this now for the, for, for two years and constantly coming to a deeper understanding and you get some things wrong, you course correct, yada, yada. But now I'm, I'm at this point where, where, you know, the show is enriching for me. This exploration, these ideas, these conversations, like this hugely important to, to my personal development. And so eventually I start going to a church for the first time in my life that leads to, am I going to, you know, am I getting baptized? So I, I talked to my church, the 26th of of October. So only a week or so away is what's today? I don't even know what today's date is. This thing is wrong. It says 15th. It's not the 15th, right?

[Top Lobster]

It's the 15th.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's the 15th. Oh wow, my watch is right. Okay, so we've got 11 days until this baptism. And I'm still not sure I, I recognize it as an acknowledgment and sort of a line in the sand that you draw and you go definitively, I'm stepping in this direction. It's a commitment, right, to accepting Jesus Christ.

[Jacob Israel]

Well, you've already done that. No, you've already.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay, so yeah, let's, I want to hear what you have to say about it. You know, baptism.

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah, well, I mean, I have essays on all of this. Like if, if people want to really dig in, they, you know, jacobisrael.com it's all free. Nothing's behind a paywall. Listen, I got baptized like a billion times. You know, the first time it was some, some, you know, crazy person online from the Church of Christ who was like, yes, come over to my basement and I will baptize you. And I was like, I must do it, I must do it. And, and, and needless to say, you know, then I did it again. Then it was like, then I got involved with a, a non denominational church is going back. And then they're like, well, those baptism didn't count. You got to get baptized here. I said, oh, I didn't know that. And I said, well, can we do it? Now. And like, no, you got to go through the curriculum, you know, And I was like, I can't even pronounce curriculum, you know, So I don't know what that is.

[David Lee Corbo]

The problem, the curriculum.

[Jacob Israel]

So I ended up having to take all these, you know, courses at the house and all this. So this was like, back in the day, you know, when you first. I mean, look, you're probably excited to do it. You've been told that you have to do it. I'm not going to discourage you. I think it's a wonderful thing to do. And then one day you'll know what it really means, and you'll look back on these moments and kind of laugh at yourself. You know, every.

[David Lee Corbo]

Every episode, Jacob, Every episode, I look to myself in a previous episode and laugh at myself. I mean. Nope, nobody's told me that I. That I have to do it.

[Jacob Israel]

But, you know, Jesus never baptized. You know that, right? Jesus never baptized.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's interesting. Yeah, I didn't know.

[Jacob Israel]

Only the disciples of Jesus did. But, you know, do you ever hear the scripture that says the. The washing of the word of God?

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm not familiar with it.

[Jacob Israel]

Well, that's baptism. Being washed with the word of God, being washed clean, and the word. So the word is water. Right? So that's why in scripture, you'll see there's a lot. Like, Jacob had a well, like I tell people on my channel, I said, you know, come to the well when you're thirsty. You know, when you miss this meatball and you want to get, you know, you know, you want to get some laughs, talk about how the world's going crazy. I said, but if you don't leave this well with Christ, who sits at that well, you know, like, Christ is. Is part of my life. I mean, it's. It's. Christ in you is the hope of glory. The glory of God is to conceal a thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Jacob Israel]

Christ in you is the hope of uncovering what's been concealed in you. It's like, really, really cool. So you can't separate Christ from you because the scripture says in the book of. Of John, and this is going to lead into the baptism part, that, you know, that this. That Christ is the light of not some men, but all men. You know, like you were probably taught, like, invite Christ into your heart as if somehow you exist on your own accord outside of the spirit of the living God. Like, that's an interesting thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

Jacob.

[Jacob Israel]

Can I.

[David Lee Corbo]

Can I say something about that? So. So that declaration of now, now I understand, you know, the world is Run in, in so many ways by, like, ritual. Like, if you look at what the, what the other side is doing, you. You can observe all this ritual and ceremony. So it's not lost on me that, like a declaration, like we talk about our own words being spellcraft, right? Like a declaration. But like, if you do that, and I'm not saying, I'm not saying this to dismiss it, but what I'm saying is there are moments that I have on this show in particular, you know, exploration of the Bible and gaining an understanding of things, where I will have an epiphany. And that epiphany is like, that's called revelation. And you could feel that. You could feel that when that happens.

[Jacob Israel]

Put a pin in this. That's how Christ. That's how Christ comes, like lightning from heaven. You're reading something and then. And, and you said you can feel it. It's electric. Oh, yeah, that's Christ coming. That's Christ being revealed. That's the power and wisdom of God being revealed to you in the story. You know, like, understanding that there's more to what you're reading, you know?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Jacob Israel]

So, like, our first understanding is always carnal, you know, it's always going to be, you know, you got to literally get dunked. Right. That's what I thought. I'm not, like, opposed to it. I think it's a wonderful thing to do. I'm not going to discourage anybody. But the truth is the word baptizo is it. It means to immerse. And so the disciples would go around and they would, you know, share the gospel. They would share the gospel. And that was the. The sharing of the gospel was actually the baptism, the immersion, if you will. So that's, that's what that is. So you're be like, I was saying, you're being baptized now. So, like, if someone is, is sharing the word of God and the truth of God, you're being baptized. I mean, there's a lot of things that people believe that's horrible about God. Like that somehow if you do something wrong or something, you're going to end up being tortured endlessly. But there's no word torture in scripture that it comes from revelation where it says that, you know, those that don't have the name of Christ will be tormented forever and ever. The word torment.

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[Jacob Israel]

Bassanios in Greek, it doesn't mean like it. It's become the meaning to torture, but it doesn't mean that it's a. It's a stone that you strike precious metals on to test them to see how pure they are. So if you don't have the name of Christ and it's the, the word name means everything that that name covers. So it's literally the all encompassing spirit of Christ. If you don't have that, what ends up happening is you're going to be tormented. You know, if you have the mark of the beast, you know that everybody thinks is going to be a literal chip in your head. There's gonna be something literally in the world, but that's not what it means. The, the mark, like Cain was given a mark. It's the mark of your works, the marks of your thinking. If you're a carnal, beastial person, the mark of the beast, the mark of a carnal man, the mark of somebody who's, you know, brutal and doesn't care. If you walk around selfish, hateful, arrogant, prideful, bigoted, lustful, you will be tormented forever and ever. You'll be tested until you're pure. And the word ever is aonos in Greek. Which means a period of time. It doesn't mean for. Because you wouldn't say forever and ever. You would say for infinite Tom or whatever that Latin is. So everything that we're going through right now is a baptism of sorts. The baptism that we're going through, though, you want to know the real baptism? It's by fire. Fire. That's the baptism. That's how Christ baptizes Christ comes as a consuming fire, you know, And I don't mean like literal fire. I mean like, Like a word that can purge away a lie, a truth so powerful. That's why the witnesses, when they spoke their tongues, which Christ has a sword and what is a sword? Take the S off the beginning, put it on the end. You got words. So the tongue was a fiery sword that could give life and give death. And you have that tongue too. Both of you. You know very well that you could humiliate tarot. You guys are both so smart, so witty. You know, you could. You could humiliate somebody with a simple post, but you can also encourage somebody with a simple post. That tongue, it cuts both ways. That's the sword. So, you know, baptism is. It's. It's up for discussion. The question is, what are we being baptized by? What are we being back. It seems like we're being baptized by fire right now. Hard times. Hard times create strong people.

[David Lee Corbo]

I. I have, you know, what's. What's coming up in mind, and it's top jokes about it, and I wonder if there's something to it. And, you know, I don't know if there really is, but this idea of, like, maybe getting baptized in running water if you were going to do it at all. Because my. I know, like, maybe you should have.

[Jacob Israel]

Russell Brand do it in his underwear.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm hoping that that is. I'm hoping.

[Jacob Israel]

So spiritual in his time, my pastor.

[David Lee Corbo]

If he could do it in his underwear. And he said that he's not wrong with you. He's not interested. But the wall is gonna, like, open up and it's gonna expand. Suppose like behind, you know, where the church band is, there's a wall. Yeah, the wall is going to open, apparently, and there's some sort of. Some sort of, you know, stagnant. They make it a show of water back there.

[Jacob Israel]

Make it a show, have a good time, go nuts with it. And then, you know, flex, then flex. Be like, I did something you didn't do. You're gonna burn. That's what some people do. So. Yeah, well, that's the thing is you.

[David Lee Corbo]

Know, so I get that a lot too, where it's like, you know, baptized.

[Jacob Israel]

Were you.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's why I said I. This show, like I said, is, is, you know, people are watching my, My journey in real time, but it's like the show is. It's the conspiracy through the biblical lens. And so people will mistakenly think like, oh, this guy thereby is a. Is a lifelong Christian who's already there, who's got it all figured out, right? And then they'll say, and it's like, that's not the case. Certainly, certainly even further from the case. You know, Top was raised in the church. He has, you know, know, this, this scaffolding at least to build upon. I didn't have any of that. And so, you know, people will say things like, oh, well, you. You haven't been baptized yet. So when are you going to do that? When are you gonna do that? I'm like, dude, I don't know when I.

[Jacob Israel]

Can I ask you a question? Does your pastor believe that God will torture people endlessly? I mean, honest question.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, I don't think so. Our pastor is. Well, we gotta ask him.

[Top Lobster]

Hey, Pastor Rick, where you at on endless torture?

[Jacob Israel]

I'll ask you. I'll ask you this one then. Does he believe that ultimately everyone will be saved like the scripture says?

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't know. I mean, it's hard because it's like, you know, when you go there, right, You're. You're subjected to like, it's the music first and then it's kind of. We're talking about tithing and then we're talking about missions.

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah, I know. I was the head writer for Christian Network. I'm telling you. Right? And in there.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, and the sermon. So, like, you know, we just wrapped up a six or seven part sermon on humility, being like Christ and, And, you know, has, has he came to be a servant and, and how the mightiest among you shall be the lowest among you and things of that nature. So. Yeah, and, and I think that's, it's, it's hugely important. But as far as his personal opinion on, on one thing or another, really hard to say. You don't, you don't get a whole lot of time. It's a half an hour worth of a sermon. And then when you're, when it's over, you. I shake a hand, give him a hug or something, and he's ask you how everything's doing, you. You reciprocate and then you're out the door. So I don't know.

[Jacob Israel]

Email him, because, you know, I. I have a big audience, and I have. I spent a lot of time responding to people on X. On. I. I mean, I get. I get emails every day of people. Like, someone told me today, dawn, you know, who was in renal failure, her son killed. Killed himself sleepwalking. And she just was, like, thanking me because she remembers I sent her, like, 50 bucks or something years ago, and she's been watching me forever, and she wanted a mattress. So what I'm getting at is, like, I'm very accessible. I'm not a pastor, but I am. I would consider myself to be, like, a shepherd, like, somebody that, like, really does care about people. Jacob had a. He had a speckled flock. I have a very speckled flock. I got a lot of people that are in all sorts of different religions, and for some reason, they don't have a problem with the things that I share. And even a lot of them have very strong opinions, too. But I'm telling you, when you really want to know God, all of the doctrine and all that baloney fades away. It. It's. It boils down to, do you love or do you not, you know, love God, love others? That's it. So does he answer email? Hopefully you can get in touch with him, maybe schedule an appointment with him or something.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, we were. We did manage to, like, you know, we. We had a meeting with him where we were running some things by him. You know, it's. It's no secret. The audience knows. When we were doing our last performance at Bohemian Grove, we had, like, a separation with some other guys we were working with, and it was like an ideological one in many ways. And. And I think, you know, this conversation was like one we wanted to kind of get a feel for. Like, what is. What's.

[Jacob Israel]

What.

[David Lee Corbo]

What is this about? Like, what is this church about? What are you guys about? And. And then also just this idea of. Well, at the time, I think God was putting on, you know, on me to go and reach out to one of these guys that we had come kind of parted ways with.

[Jacob Israel]

That's so.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, we. We, you know, top and I had some internal sort of, like, disagreements about it. Is this the right thing to do? And for clarification purposes, we went to him and we're like, look, this is what's happening. What do you think about. And I really do have a tremendous amount of respect from. For our pastor. He's a. A really good guy, right? And. And he kind of saw it both ways. He's like, look, if you're if that's what's on your heart, then that's what you should go and do. But also, it seems as though God shut some doors on purpose, you know, people probably shouldn't.

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah. He'll move you. He'll move people away and you're doing the right thing. Then at least your heart, like, it's like, repentant towards the issues and, you know, sometimes it's better just to say, look, I'm sorry things fell apart.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Jacob Israel]

And leave it at that. You know, you don't need to. You don't need to get back together again. You know, I. At my job, you know, it's when you're really, really good at something, people will have an issue with you. So you have to learn how to handle other people and their insecurity, you know, and if you can really understand what's going on, maybe it's in his head, this whole thing. It's better just to forgive and move on and not let it affect you.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. You know, but I mean, you know, after talking to him, I got. I got a feel for at least a little bit of who he was, you know, the, the pastor and so. So, yeah, he's the kind of guy that's going to respond to your emails and things like that. He never, he's never preaching, you know, eternal damnation and torture. It's. It's much more, you know, humble yourself before people. You're a representative of Christ here and, you know, love people and things of that nature. So I. I think he'd probably be very much, you know, in alignment. But I want to kind of go back to this earlier conversation that we were having, Jacob, about this idea of Christian nationalism. And you, the way that you broke it down, it almost makes it feel like whatever sort of, let's say, overarching political structure you might hope to emerge from, Christian nationalism is sort of folly. Right. Because the kingdom is within you. Jesus Christ is within you. And to try to.

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah. Render onto Caesar. That's all.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right. And we're also not of this world. Right. How does it go that we are strangers in a foreign land? Right. We're passing through here. And so this idea that a lot of people have, which I. I fear there's a galvanization to Christian nationalism not for the right reasons, but for almost spite. In other words, we've been subjected to the left and their ideology for so long that people might see Christian nationalism, or whatever form it's going to take as a viable means for almost revenge.

[Top Lobster]

Well, there's Also, this. There's a thing that, like, it's. It's kind of like clickbait or, like, rage bait to people on the right. But that guy, Nikita, whatever. He's the ex pro head of Product of. Of X. He's the guy that gave the dude $10,000 for whatever reason.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yeah, yeah, that's right.

[Top Lobster]

Turns out he's a subversive Jewish leftist, but interesting. He. They pulled up one of his previous tweets, and they're like, this is why he's bad. And he goes, you know, most of the bots that we've eliminated have this in their bio. And in their bio was like, you know, father Christian America first.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And he's like, we've eliminated, like, a million bots that have this in their bio. And they're like, oh, he's biased. And I was like, well, he is biased, but what if that's also true? What if. What if that, like, if there is a movement to create that. And. And we're being. Because we certainly are being steered toward this direction.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. And this is something that independently.

[Jacob Israel]

Oh, yeah, I get a lot of hate mail. Yeah, I get a lot of. I get a lot of hate mail. There's. People are really lost today. You know, the problem. And it's very easy to do so because, you know, it's the people that are really corrupt. They're not a lot. They're not a lot of them. They're just the ones that have all the power, you know, and it's easy to lump it into categories. You know, I find myself. I've always found myself fighting for whoever the target was at the time. There was a time when it was the gays. And, you know, I wrote essays about what scripture really says about it, like, what it really says about it. Not, like, what it's been twisted. The reprobate mind has nothing to do with sexuality, has to do with man worshiping man. And it's. You know, and. And then when that became like, yeah, everything had to be crazy. And you have people, you know, dress like demons, having little children put dollars in their thongs. I'm like, okay, so it's gonna swing this way now. Yeah. But I find myself always standing up for, you know, whoever the. The target seems to be. Right now, obviously Jewish people, a lot of people are very upset with the Jewish people. And so I'm really kind of happy to see this. This, like, Middle east thing stop. And I know. I guess they're working on trying to do some, like, damage control. There was talk about like people getting, I don't know, $7,000 or something, you know, to do damage control. It's. If we could just take away the beliefs, the religious beliefs from people and stop making Muslims and Jews or Christians or atheists or Mormons or Catholics or if we could just stop saying that. Everybody with. And what do we have? That's, that's a, that's a denomination. You're right denomination. Basically you got demon like right there in it, if you're willing to see it. It's a denomination. And in Christ there is not supposed to be any division. So this whole idea of this rise, it seems that way, but it, it's also going to be like Jihu who opened the floodgates and said, yeah, come on in. Look at my top paid propaganda saying this. Hey, look at Candace Owens. Candace, here are your marching orders. You know, Ian, hey, we don't even know who you are. Come on, Joe Rogan, here are your merchant orders. And then, so what they do is they make it seem like, oh, we need to really, we should voice our opinion about this and feel safe and everything's being tracked. All you as suck us. Because that's what Jihoo did. He brought everybody in. Come on in. Yeah, I'd have no problem with your beliefs. Let me tell you something. Donald Trump's daughter is married to an Orthodox Jew. So you're 100, right?

[Top Lobster]

But the problem with this problem, the problem with a lot of the criticisms though, is that they're 100 accurate. But I, I agree with you, I agree with you.

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah, for sure. In regards to people. For sure. But in regards, I know somebody down the street who's, who's Jewish. I got a Muslim across the street, I got a Chinese neighbor who doesn't believe in God at all. Will is like, he doesn't believe in God at all. Everybody, they all have these different beliefs, you know, and it's like if we could all just get past them. That's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to get people to just love, be kind, be forgiving. You know, it's like, what is it? How does it benefit you to be worried about all of these things that God's handling? It's happening now, it's happening in the land today. God is handling it. How does he handle it? He brings in Nebuchadnezzar, he brings in Samson. Samson was the last judge, the last biblical judge. And he came down and he just burned it all to the ground. He was so upset, he Wasn't the most godly man. He had a problem with the ladies, you know, and he was all about his strength and what he could do. He ended up bringing the whole thing crumbling down, I think.

[Top Lobster]

Let me ask you, though, about, like, about Nebuchadnezzar specifically, because it's like, yeah, sure, he's brought in Nebuchadnezzar to do certain things, but there are time. I mean, the book of Daniel is very short.

[Jacob Israel]

So this short time, and that's going on short.

[Top Lobster]

No, no, no. It's a. It's. It's a short book, but it's a long time frame. We don't know the time frame. Daniel ages to like 70.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's like 80 years old.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, it's like 80 within, like two chapters. And there's a time frame in which Nebuchadnezzar is ruling and he's doing things, but we don't see the pressures and the political. The political pressures and the social pressures of the people. It's like. My question is always. I'm looking from the outside. I know we differ on opinion on this, but I'm looking from the outside, right, at what is clearly wrong and what some people are doing.

[Jacob Israel]

Maybe tell me what's wrong just so I can clarify what you're talking about.

[Top Lobster]

I mean, well, I mean, it's from. Let's. You want to talk about the ceasefire now, I'm not saying that it's wrong. What I'm saying is that they're most likely going to violate it because they've done that already three times just within this one war, turning a place to rubble, whatever. If you want to take the land, take the land.

[Jacob Israel]

So you think that. So even though. So what you're basically saying is, though. Even though right now it seems like it could be good, you're like, there's no way.

[Top Lobster]

It's. It's also like, it's. It's great that it stopped, but I'm not gonna forget that, that that happened, of course that you did that. So that's wrong. The infiltration in our social media and in our government to persuade the American people, AI. Number one, as if it's not happening. Number two, as if it's good that it happened. And then, number three, I have to look at social media influencers around me who have. You know, listen, these are just facts they have.

[Jacob Israel]

Like, let me tell you how I handle this. Okay, but let me.

[Top Lobster]

Let me finish that, though, because the thing is line. And I look at. And I go, man, this is not something That I don't. I don't think God would do this thing. This thing seems atrocious. And what. What seems to trust about is the lying on top. It's it for me. It's the lie. Like, if you want to take a place, take it. Take it by conquest. This is how things are done. If you're going to subvert and lie and manipulate and twist people's minds and pin brother against brother or family against family for some foreign interest, this is a problem. But then I. Then we go, well, it's God's plan. I go, yeah, it is God.

[Jacob Israel]

Well, everything's gonna do what he's gonna do, right?

[Top Lobster]

But the question is, then it's like, in these times and throughout the Bible, where these long stretches that the Bible doesn't even realize, that doesn't even address, are the people supposed to move in a certain way in order for the king to move a certain way? Or are we just supposed to sit. Sit back idly as God works? Or is God working by showing us these.

[David Lee Corbo]

These things so that we say, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, yeah, of course, say something or just at least go, hey, I cannot in good. I cannot in good conscience say these, you know, like, not. Not about, like, even doing anything but just being like, hey, that's not right.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, to go back to Jacob's original point, right, you're talking about the LGBT community. And you go, like, yeah, there's. There's maybe this unjust persecution going on. And then what happens is once you identify that, you know, unjust persecution, you try to stand up for these people that don't have a voice, well, then something co ops that movement. And now that it is being. Now that the doors are being opened and people are. Their hearts are being softened for these people. Now we can insert these radical ideologies within the movement, like, you know, hormone blockers for children. And then it's like, when you get to that point, are you meant to say, well, this is, you know, God's gonna handle this, or are you meant to be like, hey, so here's stories in your library or, you know, whatever it is.

[Jacob Israel]

Did God handle it? Can you hear me?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, hold on. Wait a second. I'm sorry, Jacob, start over from right where. Where I stopped talking because we lost you there for a few seconds.

[Jacob Israel]

Okay. Can you hear me okay now? Yeah. Okay. Did God handle it? You were just saying that the blockers and everything. It's a horrible thing. I. I prayed and, you know, I want to see good things come of out of this bad stuff. Right. So did God handle it?

[David Lee Corbo]

I mean, I would say end up doing. I would say that it's been, oh, I'm sorry, we keep losing him for a second. The last I heard was, did God handle it? And what I would say is, yes. But it looks to me like he handled it by way of shaking us awake.

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And showing us that anything is happening so that we would speak out against it.

[Top Lobster]

It was revealed, there was social pressure.

[Jacob Israel]

Right.

[Top Lobster]

And then we stopped it, sort of.

[Jacob Israel]

Well, that's. That's why the scripture says everywhere. It's the awake, awake, awake. When. When troubles come. You know, like when the storm was on the. The ship, they. They went down, they woke Jesus up, and they said, let me calm the storm. So what I was trying to say earlier was, let me tell you how I handle this. Because, of course, monstrous acts aren't of God. They're of man. Man does horrible things, but God can use horrible things. There's. There's a master plan. Right. There are people that are in charge, and they're plotting and planning and they're moving and shifting things because they know what's coming in the future. They have ideas, they have information, because they're at a higher place than we are. They know what's coming, so they have to get everything moving, moved into place to do it. Sometimes, sadly, people use, like, wrecking balls, and it's not the best way to handle things. I would prefer to see things be handled a lot calmer and. And more peacefully, but I can't do much except for say this on the show. Like you said, we need to be woke up. So you said we stopped it. I say our faith stopped these things. So on my channel, what I've been doing for a long time, when coveted, you know, when Covid first hit, when all these. I said, this is what's going to come out of it. It's going to end. We're going to see this. So what I did for a long time was I coined President Trump as the peacemaker. I mean, once again, you can go to my. My, my page. This stuff is like, long before they were saying it, because I wanted to see peace. So even before he was president again, I was like, this is going to be the peacemaker. He's going to bring in the peace. Because it's the story of what Nebuchadnezzar did. It's the story of what Je. Who does. It's. It's the story of what Cyrus did. It's like the story plays out again and again and Again, and it stinks because people are murdered and horrible things happen. But I put out and I say, let me tell you what's going to happen. This is what's going to happen next. I use my faith. So instead of seeing the worst and saying that this is, I'm saying the war is over now. That doesn't mean that we're not going to see something happen in the future. But I don't see us going into any kind of World War 3. This is like my, my problem with a lot of people, especially in the faith community, is that they're like trying to prophesy gloom and doom. And so I've been saying, you know, he's going to be, he's going to be the bringer of peace. Not that I'm like a Trump supporter, mind you. Not that I, I love, like I said, God uses sometimes a heavy instrument. It's called the hammer of justice. It's there for a reason. You know, it doesn't mean that what he's doing is great. It doesn't mean that these aren't all psyops and none of it could be real. I mean, who cares in the grand scheme of things? Because you look at the story and you look at the result of what comes out of the story. So I look at everything spiritually and what I see in the land is this peace and safety. I see it as a good thing. Whereas other people are saying, sudden destruction's coming, we have peace, but sudden destruction is coming. But people don't even know what the rest of the chapter says. The rest of the chapter talks about how God has not appointed us to wrath, but to salvation. Sudden destruction. We know because we're not of the night. The scripture goes on to say, because they're, you know, because the people that are of the night, they're drunk, they're partying, they're not thinking, they're cheating, they're lying, they're stealing. Those are the people of the night. So that when bad stuff happens to them, it's, it's so much worse. But we know because we're not like the night. We're not in the darkness. We know that, that we may have hard times, but God cares for us just as much as, you know, any, anyone else on the planet and so much more so than the birds. The sudden destruction that comes is like me with the roof, then me with the furnace, me with the car accident where I have non stop tinnitus. All of these things. Life is going great. Peace and safety, I got money in the bank, everything's going great, and then sudden destruction comes, like a woman about to give birth. Remember we started this whole conversation with, you know, John baptizing Jesus. Jesus say, suffer it to be so, because we. We are going through this baptism. We're. We're refined as silver, the scripture says. He holds us over the hottest part of the flame as silver. So it's not going to be easy where you're not a great moral person. Neither of you are. I'm not a great moral person. None of us really are. But in Christ, we're made righteous. When we finally let that ego nature die, when we finally stop blaming everybody else for why we're unhappy with the way the world is, and we start trying to see the world the way God says it should be. There should be peace in the land. There should be equity in the land. You know, people that are breaking the law, they should be dealt with. Then it could happen. But I don't see a lot of people putting that out there, you know, and people call me naive, but I'm telling you, I've said stuff like this again and again and again. And here we are when Pakistan and India, you know, we're going back and forth. Everybody's like, every big influencer. Alex Jones, Nuclear war.

[David Lee Corbo]

Nuclear war.

[Jacob Israel]

I said, it's going to be over in three days. That's true. I did a video. I told everybody. I'm gonna sound stupid. I told everybody. I don't have inside information, but I'm gonna put it out. It's gonna be over in three days. It was over in three days. I think that you have more power than you know. I think the listener has more power than they know. And I think if we stop cursing our lives and we start speaking life over it, like, I am happy. Life is good. I am blessed. I am, you know, loved. If we start talking like that, as opposed to, you know, it's gonna be terrible, I think things would be better. That's what Jesus taught. He said, with faith, you could say to the mountain, be cast into the sea. So with faith, I say we're gonna see some political unrest, and things may be shaken up, but I don't think anybody's going to worry about, like, World War iii, because that's what I hope so. I don't know.

[Top Lobster]

Well, I mean, the way I'm. The way I'm seeing you from, I. Man, I really hope so, but from, like, my geopolitical stance for what. What I'm looking at, it's like there is going to have to be a decoupling from the United States, from Israel. And it's a hard pill for a lot of people to swallow.

[Jacob Israel]

No, it's going to be Netanyahu. It's not going to be Israel.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I mean, the government of Israel, the.

[Top Lobster]

Well, the. The state, whoever is.

[Jacob Israel]

I'm telling you, I don't believe for a second that the government of Israel is in charge at all. I think.

[Top Lobster]

I don't know.

[Jacob Israel]

I think that Trump's always been in charge. I think that, you know, the faction behind them, you know, has always been in charge. This is like. This is like the Crusades. This is a takeover.

[Top Lobster]

There's been like four. There's been like four times where. I mean, just. Just recently. Again, it's the same thing. He's like, don't bomb. Under. Under no circumstances bomb Iran right now because I'm doing something. And then they just bomb them and they just do this. Like, this is the fourth iteration of this.

[Jacob Israel]

So what I'm worried about, there's no war. And because.

[Top Lobster]

Because of the cool heads of. Of sand people, which is crazy to think.

[Jacob Israel]

Like, they were told ahead of time. They were told ahead of time. There was probably behind the scenes. No, I mean, that's what they said. That's. They say that.

[Top Lobster]

Here's my concern, my concern with the whole thing. And I get, like, a little passionate about this because I don't want there to be any of these larger wars. I won't even say it, but if you continue to do this, if you. Like, like, we're. We're at a ceasefire now, but there still exists a plan for Greater Israel. And when you look at the map of Greater Israel, it's like, that's part of Iran, that's part of Iraq, that's part of Egypt. Are you out of your mind? If you want to take it, go for it. Good luck. But I'm not going to be involved and my kid's not going to go and be drafted into your war for that.

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah, drafted. Your kid's not gonna be drafted.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, no, he won't. He won't, because this is there.

[Jacob Israel]

Don't even entertain these thoughts because they could happen if you entertain them. You know, faith makes things happen, man. You know, that's why when happens, you say to yourself, oh, I knew that was gonna happen.

[Top Lobster]

I don't even want to get there. I don't even want America to get there. Where that's even an option floated, because to me, it's not an option. In my mind, this has Nothing to do with what I'm.

[Jacob Israel]

Ukraine war is over. Next. You watch. Watch. That'll be the next one.

[David Lee Corbo]

I mean, is it optimism or is there some validity behind it? We talk on this show about, like, you know. Right.

[Jacob Israel]

I want to see happen on this show.

[David Lee Corbo]

We talk about saying certain things is. Is the equivalent of spell casting. And you're watching in an individual's life. Everybody knows somebody who goes, like, I'm sick. I got this. I'm worried about that. You were telling me, I think it was you that was telling me something about, like, you have an aunt that's worried about her.

[Jacob Israel]

Her roof.

[David Lee Corbo]

Her roof, yeah. And then she's, like, talking about it constantly. Constantly. And people are checking the roof for her and they're going, dude, it's good. And then three months later, all of a sudden, the roof. Right. And so it's like, if that sort of thing can happen in your own personal life, what happens when you get a conglomerate of people that, you know is in excess of tens of thousands of individuals on, let's say, X, for example?

[Jacob Israel]

Why do you think. Why do you think that I'm limited? Why do you think I've been on here forever. My show should be. I should be reaching millions. Why I have reached millions of people, but I should have millions of subscribers. My show is. Is really, like, just awesome. What? Because you can't be controlled if you get a bunch of people knowing that they can change the world with their voice.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right.

[Jacob Israel]

Could you imagine if I had a million people saying what I. You know, what. What I'm saying, and, And. And more. They're saying it, and then other people are saying it, and we're trying to create. We'll say, our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. That's the prayer. Could you imagine if everybody actually did that?

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, you could see that the opposite side is. Is doing that. Right. One of the easiest examples is this idea of, like, the Mockingbird media. Yeah. And what they did with the terminology terrorism after 9, 11. So what they had was, yeah, they're. They're casting spells at scale and they're creating widespread perception of. Of an enemy across the ocean that needs to be dealt with. And once that spell is settled and you have everybody else doing what, then getting into casual conversation either out in the world or at their own dinner table saying, these Muslim countries, this Iraq, this Afghanistan, something needs to happen. Boom, boom, boom. And it's. It's a level of Consent. Because then we go in and we do it. But it's also. This manifestation is a very gay terminology.

[Top Lobster]

Why I get mad with my mom sending me these videos.

[David Lee Corbo]

Because they're kind of fun. No.

[Top Lobster]

Well, I mean, a lot of the videos are like, she's like, oh, look at these Muslims.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

What they're doing. And I was like, this is not really the case right now. But I'm getting shades of 9, 11. Like, we've seen this. And then what happened after that? So I'm like, well, a divided people.

[Jacob Israel]

Is easy to rule. You know, divided people is very easy to rule.

[Top Lobster]

The question I just have is, it's constantly. Is like, is it our job to notice and say something, or are we just quietly trusting?

[David Lee Corbo]

Because I, I think you say something, but I think it also comes with a mixture of, like, you know, you speak the truth. If it's the truth, you say it. I believe in that wholeheartedly. But I also believe in, like, dismissive wanking gesture. You know what I mean? Like, when you see this thing and there's this giant looming on the horizon, it's like when we. We talk on this show a lot about Three Eye Atlas. And Three Eye Atlas is easy to do it with because it's not a political thing. Nobody's gonna have to fight a war. They're not going to draft your kids one day or something crazy like that. The implications aren't there. But when they're telling us, like, fear, this thing, it's going to show up. It's going to shoot lasers. This is the thing that's happening. Boom, boom, boom. I go, get out of here.

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

When it was fun.

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah. When it was first. When it was first discovered, I was probably one of the first videos out on three I Atlas the, those three I, I, I. It's the three pillars of Freemasonry, ironically. But I said they were going to, you know, call it an alien craft, because that's just something to keep us occupied with. Listen, you were talking about casting spells. And you got to remember Moses, who did he do battle with? He did battle with wizards. I do battle with wizards. You know, when I say things like, you know, if you look, I have a, a video that I did called Canceled. And on it I had, like, the Pope, I had Fauci. I had, like, the, the World Economic Forum guy had them all. The only person that hasn't been canceled on there is Netanyahu. But every single one, because I have this expression, I said, if they be corrupt, Lord, you know, because who Knows, you know, if these people are good or not. I said Russell Brand was going to be the face of Christianity because Connie dropped the ball. I just had a vibe, and then next thing you know, what is he dealing with? You know, people are getting their marching order spiritually from. From people like Russell Brand, from, like, the Tates. People are getting Christian marching orders from people that are incredibly hateful and intolerant and also incredibly ignorant because they're still.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. What did. Andrew Tate said? Something wild. He said that. That Christians need to, like, mobilize and prepare for battle. I'm paraphrasing, but he was basically talking about, like, the persecution of.

[Top Lobster]

Hold on. They're laughing at you in the chat. But you're not wrong, Russell.

[David Lee Corbo]

Brandon. Well, no, it's not.

[Top Lobster]

It's not a. It's not like.

[Jacob Israel]

No. And listen, he was selling amulets. I'm not saying he was, like, literally selling ambulance. Yeah, he was. He was selling ambulance. I mean, look, the guy. The guy baptized somebody in his underwear. It's like, if you can't see that this is all a big show. Like, if you can't look at that and say, I'm not going to listen to this guy's version.

[David Lee Corbo]

But.

[Jacob Israel]

But, you know, the guy is very well spoken. You want to like him. You know, he is.

[David Lee Corbo]

But you know what, Jacob? Nobody's buying Tidy White.

[Top Lobster]

That's a lie on Twitter and got a lot of groiper followers because it was at the time Nick Fuendes did something. But I said, hey, that guy's going to be the president. And they were like, half the people. You're an idiot.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And half the people were like, hell, yeah. And I'm just like. I'm just saying. I'm not.

[David Lee Corbo]

Not saying I want it. I'm looking at the way things are panning out.

[Jacob Israel]

Me. Fuentes blocked me. It's ironic, you know, it's very strange. I mean, you know, but he's another one that I've talked about for years ago, you know, I mean, look, when. When Kanye is going into the office with the president, with Nick, and he's wearing a NASA hat, it's like, hello.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Jacob Israel]

You know, look at what. What the word means. I mean, it means deception. It means deceit. Like I said, Moses did battle with wizards. His. His what he had in his hand, you know, when he threw it down, it would eat all of their nonsense, you know, And I kind of look at myself that way sometimes because, you know, like, I said, well, who am I, Lord? What can I do? Right. What can I do? He put me. I was the head writer for World Wrestling between 99 and 2001. And when I left, the spirit of the Lord left too. And they lost. Half of their audience have yet to get it back. And their stories are terrible today. Then what do I get? Then I'm like, I get my own show, Thunderbox. I'm doing a boxing show where I produce Donald Trump. How's that happen? I sold Ivanka Trump a pillow I used to sell. Well, I sell mattresses today, but I. Back in the day, I was selling orthopedic furniture, and I sold her a pillow. It was really wild, you know? So I look at my life, all of these little things, and a head writer for the largest Christian network in the world, and I tell them, hey, you better get your act together or else some stuff's gonna happen. And the family's been through so much. It's like, divided. All these scandals, all this stuff. And I started the YouTube channel. Said one day I'm gonna be a big YouTuber. Put, you know, I put my. Just like Jacob did when he was working for Laban. Laban was a sheep shearer. He made money off the flock. I was like a writer for daystar, so they were kind of like Laban. They made money off of the flock. I kind of wrote the words to shepherd the flock. But what I did was I, I, I started my YouTube channel, I started my novel, and next thing you know, you know, and then it wasn't until like, what, 2017, where I got kind of like a slowed down pace because I was like skyrocketing. And I've been doing it since then. And today I believe that I can, if I can get 10, 000 people every video, which is, you know, the least I'll get on a video to, to see the vision that, you know, I believe God wants for all of us to be at peace with our neighbors, to be at peace, you know, with those that we're with, to have joy in our life, to have hope, to not let hard times, you know, tear us down. You know, if, if I can do that. I say to people all the time, you could ask on my channel, people, I'm at a job. I'm like, two weeks time, you'll have a job. I'm not a prophet. They don't know what I'm doing. They put a little bit of faith in me. So I put it out there that Jesus taught us how to do this. And we're supposed to be the manifestation of the sons of God. It's supposed to be here now. I feel like I'm kind of all alone out here because I don't see a lot of people creating good. I see a lot of people creating. It's going to get worse. It's going to get so much worse. Everything's so evil. But that's. Because that's what's in charge. But could you imagine one light lights a thousand, which lights a million, which lights a billion, you know, and that's. That's what I'm. I'm hoping on my channel. So, yeah, I think that you just do what you're doing. I think that your words do have power. Just think about what you're saying before you put it out there, you know?

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, we. We watch it. People get sort of led down a path.

[Top Lobster]

That's the thing about, like, what we're doing and like, what, what you're doing because it's like, it's constantly like in this black pill. Not a black pill, but you're. I'm in this predicament where it's like, well, how much. How much can I say? How much should I say? How much will my words shape whatever's going to happen? And also, I don't even really. Like, this is a new tool for us as far as, like, shaping what reality? Like, to see, like the Matrix, like, you're Neo.

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah, that's it. You have power over the. I mean, you do tell me one thing that's happening in your life that you don't believe.

[Top Lobster]

No, I mean, yeah, but I mean, what I'm talking about more specifically is this platform that we're using here, right? This is like a big piece of clay. And I've got now these, like, weird baby hands that I've never really used to form clay. And they're like, go ahead and form it.

[Jacob Israel]

And you guys are going to be huge. I've said this to a lot of people. You're going to be huge. I know it. I actually sent you top. I sent you a d. I said, let's see how long it takes before you're not returning my. My email.

[Top Lobster]

No, never.

[Jacob Israel]

Never.

[Top Lobster]

I'm gonna. I'm gonna give you my phone number so you could call me.

[Jacob Israel]

But this happens all the. I mean, I see where. I see people that have such great potential, and I'm like, oh, the Lord could use them. And I hope and I pray. So I sow into them and behind the scenes, I encourage them and I lift them up. I try to do what I Can. And then when they get massive, you know, they forget about, you know, old Jacob, and they also forget about what it was about me that they liked was my faith and that I loved people, you know, and they forget that because they go after the clicks, and next thing you know, they're, you know, saying all sorts of crazy things about all sorts of stuff. Obama's dancing, you know, it's like.

[Top Lobster]

It's like I'm heeding your warning. And I. And I gotta tell you, I'll tell you publicly, I really do appreciate, because Jacob's the type of dude that will reach out randomly. Hey, man, like, praying for you, hope everything's good. And I'm just like, yeah, dude, thank you. And I know a lot of the stuff I say, even right now, like, I was like, I. I can tell you disagree. It might be rubbing you the wrong way, the things I say on Twitter.

[Jacob Israel]

No, not at all.

[Top Lobster]

But you have. You have a lot of patience and grace with me and let me kind of. I do. I like to do a thing where you draw around the lines until you get, like, that circle. You know what I mean? You keep doing those light marks. So a lot of the things I say and do are not exactly going to be what I'm trying to get at until I can really define. But people like you who see it, you. You see what I'm trying to do, at least you have the patience with me. And you're like, okay, I get it, right? And I still mess with these guys. There's a lot of people that are like, you know, I mean, we.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, your political prowess, which is a, you know, gay word to use, but I'll use it, is very similar to, like, you know, my ideas with conspiracy, where it's like, I've gotten to the point. I know what the. The purpose and the focus is. The purpose and the focus is Jesus Christ and, you know, humbling yourself and.

[Jacob Israel]

And.

[David Lee Corbo]

And trying to be something positive in the world. I understand that, too. But first I have to, in order to convince these people, not. Not that I'm worth listening to, but to at least listen to what I'm saying about Christ, I have to first convince them. And I think you do this with. With. With politics, that I know what you're talking about when you're talking about conspiracy. Yeah, I understand it. I get it all. I know the. The occult stuff I went through there. I. I've. I didn't practice it, but I observed it and I came to understand it, at least enough that I could have a Conversation. But the way it works in these political spheres and these conspiracy spheres is in order for somebody to give you the time of day, they have to first determine that you're worth listening to. So you have to go, I understand this political aspect of the realm that we live in. And I have to go, I understand this conspiracy. And then we can bring these people in and go, but here's why. It's really about Jesus Christ. And this is the most important thing that you need to understand about it. But in doing that, you. You can get kind of lost in the sauce on those topics, on conspiracy, on. On politics. So it's hard. You keep.

[Top Lobster]

I won't say the name, but I. You know. You know who I've been talking with, somebody I've had words with in the political realm before, and, like, you know, disagreements politically and even, like, I guess, ethically. But I'll tell you after the show. But they reached out to me privately, and I'm actually having a great conversation. The conversation.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, it's interesting. It's.

[Top Lobster]

It's actually about. God, it's because. And I explained to them, like, hey, you know, like, what I'm doing on here. They're bold statements. This is Twitter. Like, it is what it is. This is. It's a dumpster. But the reason you know, about me is because of how I've worded things in the past. And then the reason you clicked on this video and watched this thing that we were doing is because you're like, maybe like, oh, screw this guy. I have no idea.

[David Lee Corbo]

Whatever. Almost whatever it takes to get you in.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, but you know me. And then you watched it, and they. They were like, hey, man, the video that you guys did, I'm glad that people are talking about it. People need to hear about it. There's a lot of people that. It was the MK Ultra videos, like, dealing with survivors and stuff, but it's something that we've covered intensely. And the. The level. When I tell you the name of this person, you're gonna be like, whoa. And the conversation I'm having with them is great. I'm like. I'm actually like.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's one that nobody has with this person, which is.

[Top Lobster]

Nobody has with this.

[David Lee Corbo]

But let me tell you something. If we touch it and if we have this person on, we are shills and feds and all this other stuff.

[Top Lobster]

Not interested in that.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't think so. Yeah. Yeah. But it is interesting because it's an opportunity to have this.

[Jacob Israel]

You only become like, a shill or a fat if, like, you know, you don't play ball, you know, like, you could still. You could still have these people reach out to you and see what, you know, see. And hopefully what should be nice is to find out that maybe they are legit and not.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Jacob Israel]

I mean, because I told you guys. And there's a reason why a lot of the people that skyrocket that, by the way, started their channels because they've been watching me, won't even speak to me now. Is. Could.

[Top Lobster]

Are you talking about Donut? Donut or not?

[David Lee Corbo]

What up, Donut?

[Top Lobster]

I'll give him a wedgie.

[David Lee Corbo]

I love donut.

[Jacob Israel]

No, Alex is the best. He's. He's a good dude. I check on him.

[Top Lobster]

He's.

[David Lee Corbo]

He really is the best man. But, you know, this. This person. And I'm not going to give anything away, but it's like everybody knows who they are, and then they're hitting us up and they're saying, hey, I went through those programs, the Gates program. And once you hear that, you're like, oh, my God, this person that I've been judging. And, you know, in a lot of ways, it's like, yeah, you need to push back against this thing that they're promoting in this thing that they are, because it's not good. And you can't let people think that it's an okay thing to emulate.

[Jacob Israel]

I know who this is.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't know if you do. If you do, I'd be surprised. But you know what?

[Jacob Israel]

You know what would be more surprised by? Ask. Ask him if he knows me.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's interesting.

[Jacob Israel]

I don't know. Well, we'll.

[David Lee Corbo]

We'll tell you off air. But once you hear that, you're like, oh, my God, you've been through the most sophisticated.

[Jacob Israel]

My prayer, sort of. My prayer was a long time ago that I would be able to connect with the most powerful people on the planet. And there is somebody that I'm really good friends with that have been. And I've never talked about it. That also follows you. And I've, you know, so it's ironic. I wouldn't doubt maybe off air, we'll talk about it. That would be funny.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, it just goes to show you.

[Jacob Israel]

Though, this hasn't helped me any. By the way, one shout out would change my life. But no worries. No worries.

[Top Lobster]

I don't know the mystery.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't know mystery.

[Jacob Israel]

But.

[David Lee Corbo]

But there's been a lot of. I've been very dismissive.

[Jacob Israel]

You know, that's the thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I mean, we don't Know how to. Where we don't. But. But to find out that this has been a component of their life really frames things in a way where I almost feel. I almost feel almost ashamed that, like, damn, dude. Because I don't know how I would have fared going through these programs. You take me as a child and you put me through, you know, the Gates program and they, and they say, you know what? This one. And then they start putting me through the, the grinder that is the MK Ultra Project Monarch, all that stuff. I don't know.

[Jacob Israel]

But then it's like doing it on a. They're kind of doing it on a. A global scale now.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, they are. We call it free range MK Ultra Chickens. They've now implemented it at scale to pretty much everybody.

[Top Lobster]

This is like the question again. It's a constant question. It's like, okay, was I wrong for calling? Because the influence of.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, you're calling out the fruits of.

[Top Lobster]

That program, calling out the fruits of that. But it's like these people are people. And you, you. We miss that when we use these broad strokes, especially online talking in generalities, like if we say Jews, Israel, right. Or people, gay people, whatever it is. This is a broad brushstroke and I have to use it in order to make a point. Otherwise we'll be here all day defining terms and no one will listen.

[Jacob Israel]

Well, because that's why I jump on too, you know, that's why I jump on too. If I see something, I'll do things. And it's not like to, to shame anybody. It's just because I hope that maybe people will click on it and because it's always good to get into the conversation, you know, it's always good to get into the conversation and sometimes just to remind people that generalization, really, the, the message can get lost in it, you know, 100.

[Top Lobster]

And when you, when you mix comments.

[Jacob Israel]

Also your future, Your future can get lost too, in too much gener. You know, generalization. It's better to be pretty precise.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's a tightrope to walk. But it's like, I acknowledge that the vast majority of gay people have been through childhood trauma.

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And oftentimes sexual trauma. And that's horrifying.

[Jacob Israel]

Yes.

[David Lee Corbo]

But then also you have to. Somebody has to stand up and go, well, you can't allow a culture associated with trauma to perpetuate and to spread, you know, at scale. And then all of a sudden you have things like children, what's it called? Like, social contagion and things of that nature. Where it's like, now you have individuals who weren't subjected to that sort of trauma, but who see it as a viable way to gain social credit points. You know, whether it's in school or otherwise, we're talking about young kids who then say, fine, I'm. I'm gonna. I identify as one of the many alphabetic, you know, letters or whatever. I'm this, I'm that. And then what happens is they get love bombed by this community, and they receive a lot of positive affirmations, and then they just spiral and they spiral. So. So what started as an individual's response to childhood sexual trauma has now turned into a trend. And if you don't speak out against that and you have to do it in such a way where people are gonna turn to see what.

[Jacob Israel]

I have a lot of LGBTQ people that watch me. A lot. A lot of them. A lot of. A lot of people that are gay. A lot of people are less. And. And I'm very glad that they're there. You know, I know that God looks to the heart. That's what scripture says. God's not like man. He doesn't judge by outward appearance. He looks to the heart. You know, and, you know, generalization is a bad thing, because what it can do is if you really. If your message is really to bring people to the Lord, then by basically telling people, you know, people know when they're off and when things are wrong and what's wrong, they need to be. They need to be nurtured, they need to be encouraged so they can find things out, you know? And once again, God doesn't look to the flesh. The flesh profits nothing. The works of the flesh and all of it, they fade away. The inward man is what's renewed day to day. God doesn't care about any of this stuff. Crying out loud. Solomon had a thousand hookers, prostitutes that were probably slaves, and he built the temple. We're doing better today. I think we're doing better today.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. Yeah. I was having this conversation with. With somebody who, you know, maybe wanted to interact with us one way or another, but we are, you know, you know, sort of controversial characters, and I acknowledge that, but I'm like, you know, God used Saul, and he was killing it, you know, so. So it's like.

[Top Lobster]

I mean, even just today, we were. I was, like, kind of discouraged if. If in the pre chat, we came off a little discouraged. I came off a little discouraged. It's because we received rejection from certain agency that is a 501C3 whatever. But Matt kind of cleared it up. And he's like, hey, listen, you know, the guys that were hanging out with Jesus was. Peter. Peter, when he goes to.

[Jacob Israel]

They weren't.

[David Lee Corbo]

He was just about to cut somebody's head off.

[Top Lobster]

He went to cut that. That guard's head off, and he missed and got his ear. And he's like, these are the type of dudes that Jesus chose to be right next to him. So they're not like, you're approved.

[Jacob Israel]

We're mild.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, listen.

[Jacob Israel]

He also did correct them when they were acting like neurons, because he said, now, this is funny, because a lot of people will be like, they want to justify violence. And they said, well, Jesus said, you know, go sell your cloak and get a sword. Well, that word in Greek doesn't mean sword. It means. Well, it could be a small sword, but it's a. An instrument used for cutting meat in the wild. So they were on the hunt. They were going to be hunted. There were 12 of them at the time. They had two of these such knives. And Jesus said, that's enough. So he wasn't arming the army. He wasn't like, everybody get a sword. We're gonna have to fight to the death. He was saying, we're gonna be in the fields. We're gonna need to fillet some fish. We're gonna need to. We're gonna need, like, anybody got a Swiss army knife? You know? Because we're gonna go. We're gonna hide. We're gonna go in hiding right now. If you got a cloak, go sell it, you know, and get yourself something so that we can live off the limb. They knew how to do that back then. Today we'd be in trouble. But the irony is in that story is where you find Peter jumping up, and I believe the guard's name was Malthus. Maybe the. The guard that he cuts his ear off. Now, that's also very symbolic, because when you. You're cutting the ear off of something, you're cutting off the hearing of something. Here's Rome, which was an enemy of the Jews, which is an enemy of Israel. And so his hatred was so rancid towards Rome that he cut off their ear. People can hate gays so much that they cut off the hearing of God by just showing them hate. You can hate somebody so much that you can keep them from hearing the gospel that you say you want to spread here. He's doing the work of God. Jesus is there. You never lay in a hand, someone slaps you off of the other side. If someone Robs, you give them also your cloak. God's the one that provides for us. I don't know anybody who has this faith. I get you guys are, I think it's great you're doing church, and I think it's great you, you're like in, you're in the, the beginnings of it. I freaking love it. It's great. But I don't know anybody that's got that, that faith that, you know, you really need to do what Christ said. If you don't do it, Christ said, you're none of mine. So when, when Don Jr. Was saying, I don't know about you, the whole turn the other cheek thing, you know, today we've turned the cheek for too long. That's not Christ's message.

[David Lee Corbo]

And the same thing at Charlie Kirk's funeral where his wife, you know, forgave the shooter. And then Trump said something. He was like, oh, I don't know about you, but I, I, I don't think I could forgive that. Like, it was a crazy. I don't have that forgiveness. And I'm like, geez, man. You know, so that's why we were talking earlier about that whole Brandon Biggs thing. And, and you're right, the guy is, like, just feverishly predicting things, but.

[Jacob Israel]

And wrong again and again and again. It's always the Lord.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's like, how is a dude on fire for the Lord? But then he's willing to tell.

[Top Lobster]

I mean, yeah, you know, the shirt out there, it's like, you know, he killed like 300 prophets of Baal.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Afterwards. So they're like, okay, there's, I don't know, there's that too.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I mean, this goes to show you, over and over again, God uses.

[Jacob Israel]

Well, Jesus was very different. He came on the scene and he said, so what did he say? He said to Peter after he cut off the year, he said, and this is the same chapter that everybody uses to justify, you know, taking arms against somebody. Now, I'm not talking about self defense. I'm saying, like, literally going and trying to fight.

[David Lee Corbo]

Mobilizing.

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah, mobilizing against your enemy. Jesus would have no part of it. And he told everybody to have no part of it. And he said very clearly to Peter, he said, you know, those that live by the sword are going to die by it. He cut off his ear with a knife. It wasn't like a sword. It was like, he just like ripped his, you know, those that live by the sword are going to die by. You can't do this. And also Peter denied Christ. This is baby Jesus stuff, baby Christian stuff. You know, we start off, we're meatheads. We're like Adam. We try to do everything the wrong way. You know, that first man is a killer. And there's Adam has two sons. Look at it spelled out there. Cain was the firstborn. He was a killer. You know, what did he do? He was a hunter. He was a killer. And then you have Abel, who was a shepherd. He's a killer. Cain worked the field. It's all about what I can do. The other one was just fed the flock. Cain kills and Abel, firstborn killer, second born shepherd. Abraham has two sons. Firstborn was Ishmael. Ishmael was born out of wedlock to a slave. He forced it. God's like, I'm gonna give you a child. He's like, I don't believe it's gonna happen. So I'm gonna. I'm gonna basically, I'm gonna rape my wife's handmade. That's the. That's basically what happened. And. And then what do you get? You get an Ishmael. Ishmael was a hunter, he was a killer. But who was the one that was. Was the promised child was Isaac. Isaac was a shepherd. Isaac has two sons. Esau comes out hairy all over. He's a hunter, he's a killer. He doesn't care about the things of God. He's like, I'm starving. What is my inheritance with the kingdom of God mean? I don't need the birthright. I'll give it to you. Give me that soup. Esau, killer. Jacob shepherd, right? Joseph had two sons, Manasseh and Ephraim. The story goes on and on and on. Jesus comes on the scene. He's the second Adam. There's the first Adam, and there's the last Adam. There's the first man and the last man. One brings death into the world. That's us, who we think we are. The other one comes and rises in its stead and becomes the last man. And that's Christ. And it all comes together. He makes the last enemy, death. And then God becomes all in all. The idea is for us to become one with God again because that's what we lost when we came here. So it's. You can't kill people. You can't attack people. You got to forgive. You got to do these things. But yeah, of course, anybody mess with my. I mean, look, I'm not. I'll mess somebody up. I broke up a fight at my gym with two huge guys. I didn't even need to touch him. It was the wildest thing. I was so scared. I, like, they were fighting on the steps. One of them was going to kill each other. Huge. I ran up the stairs at LA Fitness and I was like, please, I have children at the house. Just don't hit me. I'm just trying to help. I was like, such a baby. I was like such a baby. Like, everybody's around watching this thing, and I'm like, I have children. I have children. I'm just trying to help. I was so scared I was going to get it because I didn't want to hurt them. I didn't want to be hurt, you know, and if we can get to that point where we don't want to hurt people, I think that. But it's going to take some time. God's going to be the one that doesn't.

[Top Lobster]

I, I agree with your message. I was, I was more making the point of the character of Peter. That was a flawed dude, the type of dude who would try to cut your head off, but also who Jesus chose to build the church on. So it's like these are things that you have to reconcile with as a. A person, a follower of Christ, to say, well, that's who these people are. These are the archetypal people from the Bible, from, In real life, when you look, look around, there's a lot of these kind of people. I just think that people who push them away are gay. And yes, I don't. That's. That's just my opinion. But we're. We're actually coming up on time here. I wanted to ask you two more questions. We have one, obviously, that's our favorite question, but one that's more important. As we draw to a close of the end of John Cena, how would you. Oh, Johnson, Jacob Israel, book his. His final. His final match. Out of curiosity. A little bit of fun.

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah, I never listen. I never. Well, John Cena is an interesting.

[Commercial Announcer]

He.

[Jacob Israel]

He was coming up when I was leaving, so he wasn't there when I was there. I mean, there's already some. Some talk about him possibly with the Rock. There's always already some talk about that. But I think it's more interesting that when President Trump is being heralded as peacemaker. I did a show about this. Yeah, Peacemaker.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, I saw the first season of that. Very funny. I told everybody he's Trump.

[Jacob Israel]

I said, that's Trump. That's the peacemaker. He's Trump. He's got the eagle, right? He's.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah. It's. Dude, it's a hilarious show too. I had no idea until I saw that John Cena is very funny.

[Top Lobster]

Very funny, dude.

[David Lee Corbo]

Very funny, dude.

[Jacob Israel]

Very talented. Talented, Very talented. It's a great show. And. And the first season was about an alien invasion of. Of parasites, much like the Vril that come in and make everybody a bunch of zombie Nazis.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yep, yep, yep. I love it. What a shame you gotta watch Peacemaker, dude.

[Top Lobster]

What a shame that we talked about God and all these great things on this episode because we could go down.

[David Lee Corbo]

Crazy rabbit hole with this.

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah, I know. Yeah. No, I would rather talk about God. About God, to be honest.

[David Lee Corbo]

Any day of the week. No, that's. That's funny though.

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

If you haven't watched Peacemaker, highly recommend it. It's a hilarious show. I don't think anything that, like, D.C. has done is worth watching except for that show. It's a very, very, very funny show. All right, Jacob. Things have changed a little bit, you know, since the last time we had John. We started to add this to the end of every show because it always yields a fascinating response. So our final question before we, we. We pack up here is in everything that you're doing, not necessarily in this conversation, but all your pursuits, are you having fun?

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah. You know, I'm 54. I had this accident and on July 20th, it was very strange because we were talking about the 111. The accident happened at 111 and the. The officer's name was Smith. It felt like I was in a matrix and I got hit by a Jeep Patriot. A Patriot hit my car. My wife was driving and the. The airbag blew up in, get this, the Culpr spy ring, which is a 1776. Like, so I was talking about 1776 and all this stuff happening. So I got hit and I have this non stop tinnitus, which is like really very intrusive and, you know, lost hearing and all that. Because of it, things have changed, you know, so, like, it was harder to do live shows and so. And I was like, you know what? I'm working way too hard on YouTube. I said it would be great if I could just go back and sell mattresses again, you know, because I loved it. I was. I did it for so many years. I love it because I have. I've been stuck in the studio for three years. I don't get to go out. My love is when I come across people and I can just kind of encourage them, speak into their lives. My last sale was a woman whose husband Just died. And she cried on my shoulder, and she didn't have any family with her. And so, you know, and. And I still. I'm very good at what I do. I think people should spend a good deal of money on their mattress, you know, But I got to help her with that next phase of her life. And where I was thinking, oh, shoot, you know, when I go here, I don't know if I was going to be able to jive, because back in the beginning, when I started my YouTube, I was selling mattresses for a company. It's very much like the company I'm working for now. So it's almost like I've been brought back to the beginning. I replaced my roof when I was working there last time. I had all of these issues. It's the craziest thing. It's almost like I'm getting a do over of all of this hardship that we had in the beginning. And yet I'm, like, just blown away by how wild it all is. Like, I love my life. I am having fun. When I'm. When I'm not having fun is when I'm worried about things like, you know, because I don't ask my audience, hey, you know, could you do me a favor? Could you send me some more money on PayPal? Would you. Would you sign up for pay? I don't put things behind a paywall. I don't want to come across that way. It would be great if people could help, you know, So I thought it would be better for me instead of putting stuff behind a paywall, instead of trying to really monetize my channel, because that's not really what it's about. God says the ox is worthy of this hire, so he'll provide. I'm like, I can go back. I got a call from this company, and they're the. They are the, we'll say, the competitor of the company that I quit. That, you know, I didn't like. They became like a corporate giant, and they were gonna, you know, you had to get the wackadoo or else. And I was like, see ya. I'm doing great on YouTube. I'll never work for you guys again. I said, wouldn't it be great if there was another company? I started telling people, another company comes in, just buys up a bunch of their stores. It's exactly what happened. Now I'm the competitor. September, I was the number one salesman in all of Long Island.

[David Lee Corbo]

Nice.

[Jacob Israel]

Got back, right? And they make a big deal out of me and all this stuff. It was. Which Is great. So I am having fun. But it would be nice, you know, if, like, my amazing book became like a big time movie, you know, it would be nice to do that. But I am having fun. You gotta have fun. I. I do enjoy talking to people and I am glad that I get a chance to do it now. And I'm glad that I got to come on here with the two of you because I think so much of the two of you. I think you guys are so brilliant and I know that you're destined and I'm grateful that you'd have me on because literally you popped into my head. What was it yesterday? I emailed you. I don't even remember. I was just driving to the gym, top pops into my head, and I just. Because you said to me, like, months and months ago, the calendar's there whenever you're ready, reach out. And I just had a vibe that today would be. You'd be free. And I have off today. And I didn't want to do a show today. I wanted to just see what God had planned. And then here we are. So I want to thank you. And yes, I'm having fun. How could I not? Look, I'm on a show with the two of you.

[David Lee Corbo]

Stop it. Stop it.

[Jacob Israel]

I'm blessed.

[Top Lobster]

Look, man, I love this guy.

[David Lee Corbo]

Thank you for your time, brother. It's always a pleasure talking to you. And we have to make it so that it's not so. I know you're a busy guy. You got a busy schedule, but we got to figure it out. So this isn't so far. And few in between, because conversations like this are important.

[Top Lobster]

Like. Like growing. Growing our platform is. It's a goal for us, but I like to grow it for if. If we can help spread around people like you. People like Ed Mabry.

[Jacob Israel]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Like, these are the things that I. I stay up at night. I like to. Obviously, we're doing fine. We're doing okay with what we're doing. And if we stood right where we're at, we'd be okay. But I'm like, if we can grow this and extrapolate and bring the people that I like along for the. Or as much as I can. Like, what could we do to help? Yeah, dude. So go follow. Go follow Jacob, because I. I know you like selling stuff. Stuff. But I think that what you're saying to people, Well, I get to.

[Jacob Israel]

I get to do my videos at work. I mean, I'm still releasing. That's the best part. Now I'm making so much money it's crazy.

[Top Lobster]

Okay, never mind. Still go.

[Jacob Israel]

Still not that much. Not that much. Listen, I still got. I got a lot of debt with the roof. I got a lot of debt with the furnace. I'm about $14,000.

[David Lee Corbo]

You got to speak some positive things over the roof.

[Jacob Israel]

Well, it's not brand new. It's brand new. There you go.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, it's good. Then it's going to be good for the next blue.

[Top Lobster]

I hope it's blue.

[David Lee Corbo]

They gotta stop the space lasers from coming in. Jacob, before we get out of here, tell everybody where they can find you.

[Jacob Israel]

Yes, I'm on YouTube. Jacob Israel on YouTube. Jacob's Ladder on YouTube at Jacob Israel 71 on X. And you can go to Amazon.com and read like over thousands of five star reviews. It really is an amazing book. Really is an amazing book.

[David Lee Corbo]

What's the book called?

[Jacob Israel]

It's called the Calling. The book of Thomas James. You start the book reading it on this side. This is your life when you start the book, when you get to the end of the book, you find out the book's actually about you and this is where you are. Yeah, it's. It's a. It's remarkable. It really is. It's the only book I've ever written.

[David Lee Corbo]

The Calling by Jacob Israel on Amazon. Guys, go pick it up. Looks like some good reading. Thank you, brother. I appreciate your time.

[Top Lobster]

Yes, guys, and until a couple minutes when we start again, don't forget to obey, submit and comply we will.

[David Lee Corbo]

The greatest hypnotist on planet earth is.

[Jacob Israel]

A oblong box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. You can persuade this what they see with their eyes is what there is to see. Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what and they have.