NDS on Occult Rejects

Summary

Podcast Summary: Nephilim Death Squad – Episode on Occult Rejects

Podcast Information:

• Title: Nephilim Death Squad
• Host/Author: TopLobsta Productions
• Description: Explore conspiracy theories through a Biblical lens with Top Lobsta and Raven, featuring engaging conversations on a diverse range of topics from the resurrection chamber of Gilgamesh to the true nature of schizophrenia.
• Episode: NDS on Occult Rejects
• Release Date: March 17, 2025

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Introduction and Guest Introductions

The episode kicks off with light-hearted banter and the playful promotion of Top Lobsta’s ventures. Nick welcomes guests David Lee Corbo, Lisa, Robbie Marks, and Julia, setting the stage for an in-depth discussion on conspiracy theories intertwined with occult knowledge.

Notable Quote:

Top Lobster [00:10]: "McDonald's breakfast comes first."

Andrea Puharich and His Influence on Conspiracy Theories

The conversation quickly delves into Andrea Puharich, a pivotal figure whose work bridges scientific exploration and occult practices. Top Lobster explains how multiple fields repeatedly reference Puharich, leading the group to investigate his contributions more thoroughly.

Key Points:

• Andrea Puharich’s involvement with telepathy studies and the Congressional MK Ultra program.
• Puharich as a potential "mascot" for the conspiracy community, known for popularizing the concept of the tinfoil hat.
• His experiments, such as using radio wave implants in dental surgery to enhance telepathic abilities.

Notable Quote:

David Lee Corbo [08:01]: "We were kind of joking about him before the show. And in fact, he's even like, I don't want to get the cart ahead of the wagon or whatever the expression is here, but we found out, and I'm sure that you guys know this, he's associated with the actual tinfoil hat."

The Rebranding of Ancient Entities and Narratives

The discussion shifts to how ancient mythologies and entities are being repackaged in modern conspiracy theories. The group explores the significance of the number nine across various cultures and how similar entities appear under different guises.

Key Points:

• The Council of Nine and its appearances in different contexts, from Satanism to ancient Egyptian mythology.
• The consistent emergence of the number nine in myths, cults, and modern narratives, suggesting a deep-seated symbolic significance.
• Top Lobster highlights how these entities are often rebranded to maintain their influence without revealing their true names, enhancing their deceptive capabilities.

Notable Quote:

Top Lobster [30:51]: "They're constantly rebranding. And when we hear about the nine, this is another thing that started to clue me in about this nine."

Modern Media's Role in Propagating Conspiracies

Nick and the guests analyze the role of modern media personalities like Joe Rogan in disseminating conspiracy narratives. They argue that influential figures normalize fringe theories, making them more pervasive in mainstream culture.

Key Points:

• Joe Rogan’s promotion of psychedelic research and its subtle integration into broader conspiracies like MK Ultra.
• The influence of popular podcasts in amplifying obscure theories, leading to widespread acceptance and curiosity.
• The strategic repackaging of ancient conspiracy elements into contemporary formats, enhancing their appeal and obscurity.

Notable Quote:

David Lee Corbo [22:58]: "We are constantly inundating ourselves with a low grade psychedelic in the form of the marijuana that's been, you know, it's had the THC dialed up through the roof."

Technological Manipulations: AI, ELF Waves, and Mind Control

The conversation delves into how modern technologies—such as AI chatbots and Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) waves—are being utilized for mind control and behavior manipulation. The guests discuss the implications of these technologies on human consciousness and societal control.

Key Points:

• ELF Waves: Used to induce states of paralysis and manipulate weather, serving as precursors to advanced technologies like HARP.
• AI Chatbots: Rebranding traditional occult tools like Ouija boards into modern applications, making them more accessible yet maintaining their manipulative essence.
• The intersection of technology and occult practices, suggesting a seamless integration aimed at controlling and influencing human behavior.

Notable Quote:

Top Lobster [72:11]: "These waves specifically, they're looking at mind control. But behavior manipulation is a big part in inducing altered consciousness."

Polar Shifts and Ancient Mythologies in Modern Context

The guests explore the concept of polar shifts, linking it to ancient mythologies and modern conspiracy theories. They examine how historical events and mythological narratives inform current beliefs about Earth's magnetic changes and potential catastrophic outcomes.

Key Points:

• History of Polar Shifts: From the 1853 Carrington Event to modern speculations, linking ELF wave research to potential climate and magnetic disturbances.
• Mythological Parallels: Cross-cultural references to seismic and climatic catastrophes, indicating a universal theme of Earth's cleansing and transformation.
• Conspiracy Connection: Theories that ancient texts and modern media perpetuate narratives of impending polar shifts to instill fear and control public perception.

Notable Quote:

Robbie Marks [98:18]: "So when you go back into various ancient texts, there's numerous places where they discuss the different phases at which the earth will be cleansed."

The Role of Spirituality and Religion in Understanding New Narratives

From a Christian perspective, David Lee Corbo and Julia emphasize the importance of spiritual discernment in navigating the labyrinth of modern conspiracy theories. They caution against blending genuine spiritual practices with deceptive narratives that lead to confusion and manipulation.

Key Points:

• Christian Caution: Encouraging listeners to arm themselves with Biblical knowledge to discern truth from deception.
• Spiritual Authority: The use of religious symbols and prayers to counteract negative entities and manipulative influences.
• Deceptive Narratives: How entities exploit spiritual concepts to present themselves as saviors while maintaining control over human consciousness.

Notable Quote:

David Lee Corbo [52:16]: "We are being stripped of the map. We used to understand these things to a much higher degree."

Conclusions and Final Thoughts

As the episode wraps up, the guests reflect on the pervasive nature of repackaged conspiracies and the interconnectedness of historical myths with contemporary narratives. They underscore the necessity of critical thinking and spiritual grounding to navigate the complexities of modern deception.

Key Points:

• Enduring Repackaging: The continual resurfacing of ancient narratives in modern forms, highlighting their resilience and adaptability.
• Critical Awareness: The importance of recognizing and questioning the sources and motives behind prevalent conspiracy theories.
• Future Implications: Speculations on the culmination of decades-long conspiracies with impending global events, urging preparedness and vigilance.

Notable Quote:

Julia [124:00]: "It really is just kind of repackaged throughout cultures, different names for the same type of beings."

Notable Quotes Throughout the Episode

• David Lee Corbo [00:03]: "You don't wake up dreaming of McDonald's fries. You wake up dreaming of McDonald's hash browns."
• Top Lobster [05:03]: "I am a shitposter online. I own a t shirt company, top lobster.com..."
• Julia [14:18]: "I came across Andrea Puharich in studying from the 60s..."
• David Lee Corbo [29:04]: "Wouldn't it be something if we all had that ability? It's just been stifled..."
• Top Lobster [37:04]: "Yuri Geller, he was in the Israeli military... all tied together."
• David Lee Corbo [52:16]: "We are being stripped of the map. We used to understand these things to a much higher degree."
• David Lee Corbo [87:00]: "Everything has a message. Everything has a way it wants you to behave."
• Julia [94:56]: "They throw all the blame back on us. It's like nothing that they've done..."

Final Remarks

The episode "NDS on Occult Rejects" offers a comprehensive exploration of how ancient conspiracies and occult practices are intricately woven into modern narratives. Through engaging dialogue and critical analysis, the hosts and guests highlight the persistent nature of these theories and the importance of spiritual and intellectual vigilance in discerning truth from deception. Whether diving into the enigmatic works of Andrea Puharich or scrutinizing the influence of contemporary media figures, the conversation provides a thought-provoking journey for listeners seeking to understand the deeper layers of conspiracy and occult intersections.

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Listeners Interested In:

• Exploring the intersections of ancient myths and modern conspiracy theories.
• Understanding the influence of media personalities on the propagation of occult narratives.
• Delving into technological manipulations and their role in controlling human consciousness.
• Gaining insights from a Christian perspective on navigating spiritual deception.

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Transcript

[David Lee Corbo]

You don't wake up dreaming of McDonald's fries. You wake up dreaming of McDonald's hash browns.

[Top Lobster]

McDonald's breakfast comes first. Welcome to TopLobster.com, the ultimate middle finger to people who hate you anyway. Do you want to turn their mild annoyance into a full blown meltdown? We're not talking about polite little digs. I'm talking about offensive, off the page comments that scream, you can't sell. Censor me. You can't tell me what to say. I'd apologize, but I don't think you'd believe me. And frankly, I just don't care what you think. @toplobster.com we know one thing. Playing nice is overrated. We push all the buttons, we cross all the lines, we dot all the I's, and we live in that sweet spot where your style and your words hit like a sledgehammer on the head of your favorite politician. So why play it safe when you can blow it up entirely? If you're too retarded to stop and you're too real to worry about being liked by everybody, well, you just found your favorite website. Go to toplopsa.com, grab a shirt, grab a hoodie, grab a sweater. That'll make your family members scream. Because if they hate you already, you might as well give them something spectacular to complain about. Toplapsa.com Too retarded to stop. I dare you to wear it.

[David Lee Corbo]

We are being hypnotized by people like this. News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

[Robbie Marks]

We are in a country and in.

[Lisa]

A world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

[David Lee Corbo]

The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, yeah, dude, there's some nephilim.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying what happened to the home of the brave. Welcome to the cult region this episode.

[Nick]

I got a bunch of us with us today. Welcome, sir. What's going on? Thank you very much for joining us.

[David Lee Corbo]

Thank you, Nick. I appreciate it. Obviously, my boss, Mr. 33. And thank you guys for being on and working with all of you today. And I've never met Julia, Raven, or Lobster, but yeah, it's all good. Good. Awesome.

[Nick]

And you want to let everybody know where they can find you still.

[Robbie Marks]

Sure.

[David Lee Corbo]

So I have a show called Threshold Saints. It's really. I'm calling it a Serial Experiments in Speculative Ontology. So it's like, about the metafiction of magic and fiction, storytelling, narrative, all the things that we talk about whenever I'm on the show. So if you want to check that out, you can follow me on Twitter at wukong Reborn. W uklng Reborn. Or on IG or Apple and Spotify.

[Nick]

Awesome. Thank you very much. And your links will be in the bottom, if they're not already. And Lisa, the mad scientist, what is going on? Thank you very much for joining us. I know you have nothing to plug, but thank you for joining us.

[Lisa]

Wait, wait, wait. I do have something to plug. Cult researchinstitute.org, our website where a lot of really cool people contribute a written form of media. So there you go.

[Nick]

Awesome. Thank you very much. And yeah, people, go check that site out now. To Julia, Cosmic Peaches with us. Hell, yeah. What is going on, Julia? Let everybody know what your deal is and where they can find your stuff, please.

[Julia]

I am official occult reject now. This is my second time co hosting. I'm so excited. Yeah, you can find Cosmic Peach podcasts wherever you listen to podcasts, except YouTube, of course. Them. And yeah, actually, I've been really digging being an occult reject because I've already learned so much. I love. I love having the. The variety of guests on. I'm really excited about this one today, too.

[Nick]

Oh, yeah. Thank you. No, and thank you for being a part of it, Julia. You're a great researcher. I appreciate the stuff you do. And the OG himself. Last but not least, Robbie Marks. What is up, my man? Please let everybody know where they can find all your amazing work and your art.

[Robbie Marks]

Yeah, thanks for having me on. Thanks for getting this group together. This is going to be a good one. Yeah, I'm R. Marks or Robbie Marks. I'm an artist and I do art for bands and festivals as well as researching. If you want to check out any of my stuff, my art, my podcast, my Patreon, you can go to my link tree, which is at R M A R X R Marks, and then I'll pull up everything.

[Nick]

That's what's up. And thank you very much for joining us as well, sir. And finally to the guests of the hour, we got Raven and Top Lobster from the Nephilim Death Squad. I went on their show. I had a blast. It was awesome. They asked great questions. They seemed really into it, and I really wanted to get them on the show as well. I guess we'll go with Top Lobster first. What's up, dude? You want to introduce yourself and let everybody know who may not know who you are, what you deal with?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yes.

[Top Lobster]

What's up, guys? Thank you. I am a shitposter online. I own a t shirt company, top lobster.com, and I do a couple of shows, one of them Nephilim Death Squad with David here. We talk about the things that you guys like. I do Comedy Tower Gang, and we do a political pseudo conspiracy show with our friend Clint Russell, which will be. We'll be doing it, I guess, after this show right around 2:30. It's called Dangerous or Dangerous. Real talk, real dudes. The implied. And that's what I do. Dave, what's up?

[David Lee Corbo]

What's up, guys? Thank you for having us. Yeah, we just did an episode with you, Nick, and we also had Robbie on, and that was a awesome conversation. We went heavy into the egg. Real heavy into the egg. And yeah, I'm David Lee Corbett. You can find me on Twitter at David L. Corbo on Twitter. And I am one half of Nephilim Death Squad, one third of Dangerous Retards. Also do a show called Timeline Cleanse that probably nobody should watch because it's very abrasive and incredibly offensive. Very happy to be here, guys. You don't wake up dreaming of McDonald' you wake up dreaming of McDonald's hash browns.

[Top Lobster]

McDonald's breakfast comes first.

[Nick]

Awesome. Yeah, I'm very happy to have you on. And especially for this topic, I guess. Whichever one of you want to answer this first.

[David Lee Corbo]

Who.

[Nick]

Who was it that even came across this guy that thought it was interesting to cover?

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, that was Top. Top discovered him.

[Top Lobster]

Not really. It was a. It was just multiple guests. We've had. We have people on, and they come on and they're like, yeah. Anyway, so, you know, this guy was doing this thing and I was like, what's his name? And they're like, puharich. I was like, okay. And then it's come up like maybe seven, eight times before. I said, wait a second. What the fuck is going on? In different fields of study, not just like the occult, but like science in the science realm, in the CIA realm, in, you know, the government realm. So I'm like, okay, now we need to actually look into who this guy is. And I think the thing that broke the camel's back was William Ramsey was on the show and he was talking about this Council of Nine. Not the actual entities of the Council of Nine, but the. This council that this guy created to. It was like a governing body sort of council that I guess they were international. And his name pops up again. So I was like, all right, that's the final straw. We've got to really look into this guy. And now everywhere we look, he's consistently popping up. We even have one field of study that we're not ready to really dive in on because we're, like, still expanding on what this guy's doing. But his name comes up in a very popular podcast series called the Telepathy Tapes. And it's just like, yeah, of course, when I heard it is like, yeah, of course he's involved with this. And I guess if you guys don't mind, we could kind of jump right into what he's. What he's doing.

[David Lee Corbo]

So.

[Nick]

But just real quick, you said he was involved with the telepathy tapes.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, it's not that he's involved with telepathy tapes. It's that he finds his way into the conversation in virtually every topic that maybe, maybe the scientific community or the medical community would call pseudoscience. Right? As soon as you start delving into that realm, he pops up. You asked which one of us discovered it? And I was quick to say Top. But as Top was talking about it, it's more like he found us, right? It's really like if you. If you are looking at the truth of, you know, the nature of the realm that we exist in, and you go back, you know, anywhere within the last hundred years, this guy is going to pop up in some way, shape or form. We were kind of joking about him before the show. And in fact, he's even like, I don't want to get the. The cart ahead of the wagon or whatever the expression is here, but we found out, and I'm sure that you guys know this, he's associated with the actual tinfoil hat. Like, this is the guy that popularized the notion of the tinfoil hat. He's kind of like the conspiracy community's mascot. And. And he's been right under our nose.

[Top Lobster]

That's where he comes up in the Telepathy Tapes. Not necessarily with the esoteric side of it. He comes up in the beginning of an episode, episode two, I believe they're talking about radio waves being frequencies that people can hear. And then they give an example of Lucille Ball. She goes, and she has dental surgery, and she starts picking up radio waves somewhere in Manhattan. And right away, my radio wave antenna is up. And I'm like, what the fuck did you just say? So I'm listening. And then they go, oh, yeah. By the way, a doctor in Drija Poha, they call him a doctor scientist. He was developing this dental implant technology that would actually put these radio A Radio wave signal into your head.

[Robbie Marks]

Voice of God.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Voice of God.

[David Lee Corbo]

Probably a precursor to that technology.

[Robbie Marks]

So now. Go ahead. Go ahead.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. So the. The reason we say it's related to the tinfoil hat is because there are, like, tangential stories of places where he may have been. And there's a guy that famously wrapped his head in tin because he was hearing voices in his head, and the tin stopped it. So in this nursing home or psychiatric facility that the guy was at, this is what he did. And the doctors allowed it, and he said it helped him, so they're like, fine. So the connotation of tinfoil hat kind of derives itself from there, but the origination is really this dude that probably is putting this stuff into his. Into his teeth.

[David Lee Corbo]

So I actually remember, too, the way that he came up in a big way on our radar was with Control Alt history. We had him on our show, right? And he was talking about the spirit comm, which is a device that was created sometime in the 80s. And it was like a reliable piece of technology that people were able to communicate with something that was, you know, at the end of the day, they just said was coming from the spirit realm. But what was happening was people were coming from far and wide to try to debunk it. And over and over again, they were finding that it wasn't debunkable. And then I think that the. One of the main guys. I don't know if it was. It wasn't Puharij. Somebody that was working intimately with it, eventually ends up getting diagnosed with schizophrenia. And his story ends pretty sadly. He's. He's institutionalized, you know, for the rest of his days. So, yeah, this whole thing is like. He just keeps coming up anything that's fascinating, you know, like the spirit comm or like the tinfoil hat blocking these waves. It's like Puharidge finds his way into the narrative somehow.

[Robbie Marks]

So Puharich, when you look at his early work, his first book was the Sacred Mushroom. And he's actually using flowers, Sciagaric mushrooms, to try to create telepathy. He actually built a Faraday cage for two people to sit in so that they could, you know, test the properties. And he said there was a 25 increase in telepathy within the Faraday cage. But he's, you know, he's given speeches to the Department of Defense on, like, psychic spying. He's like. I mean, he's literally. His laboratory comes straight out of the round table groups, which is basically linked back to Cecil Rhodes and You know, bringing America back under the. The wing of the British. It's. He's just wrapped up in everything.

[David Lee Corbo]

I think what he's finding there is actually really fascinating, right. To put people in a Faraday cage and then to find that there's a 25 increase in the success of being able to predict or read or, you know, use some form of telepathy. I have my theories, and it's not like it's a profound one. I think a lot of us suspect that these abilities are innate to us one way or another. But I was speculating just on the phone with Top the other day, that I think what's really going on here is that we're being stifled in so many different ways. So from the shit that they're spraying in the air to the things that are in our food, there's the old trope of fluoride corroding the pineal gland. But those waves, right? Bluetooth and wifi and all this different shit, Cell phone signals and radio waves. I imagine that because of the nature of the ability to read thoughts, which, you know, I'm no expert on it, but it seems to be more so the ability to receive waves, right? Waves and frequency that are being emitted by another person in the form of thought. Well, if there's a bunch of other crap, like I said, Bluetooth and wi fi and 5G and all these different things bombarding you constantly, it's got to be hindering that exchange that maybe actually is innate to us in one way or another. So I find that fascinating that he actually found more success. And that kind of opens the door to. Which I think is still part of this conversation. Rogan promoting these John C. Lilly sensory deprivation tanks. I. I kind of am looking at this like we're getting something very old and we're getting it repackaged and reinserted into the culture.

[Robbie Marks]

Puharich also promotes the idea of the ice bath in regard to. Oh, yeah. In regard to training the body to find the inner light, to be able to bring about enlightenment. So, yeah, you know. Yeah, go ahead.

[Julia]

Oh, I was just gonna say Nephilim death Squad. Are you familiar with the Laurel Canyon at all?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yes, yes. They're manufacturing all of our cultural phenomenons.

[Julia]

Right. So I actually, I talk about it a lot. Obviously, the occult rejects know this, but I came across Andrea Puharich in studying from the 60s, actually, because he comes up. It was an episode I did about cults, and Heaven's Gate came up in something that was adjacent to the Heaven's Gate. Culture was this guy named Yuri Geller and Andrea Puharich, and I did this whole presentation on him. And dude, that he was up to this in the 60s, just Laurel Canyon days, CIA program to AI extraterrestrial. Like, he was all about that. And it blew my mind when I first heard about him, because I just didn't hear a lot of other people talking about him at the time. But I'm so glad you guys know about it.

[David Lee Corbo]

It feels like our mascot, doesn't it?

[Julia]

Yeah, right, right.

[Top Lobster]

He's fallen through the cracks in so many ways. So a little bit about his history. He's born in 1918 in Croatia. He. He actually dies in 95 unexpectedly. He falls down a set of stairs and just dies like this. So, like, really anticlimactic way.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right?

[Top Lobster]

Such a fantastic life that this guy had, like a cat tripped him up.

[David Lee Corbo]

Stumbled over his cat, and died his eyelids. So what's the matter?

[Nick]

You didn't see that one coming, bro?

[David Lee Corbo]

Telepathy doesn't work on cats.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, the entities didn't tell you about that, Right? So he. He. He had some military service, and he joined the. The army medical corps in the 50s. And that's kind of when all of this starts off. He finds himself in Edgewood. Edgewood Arsenal and. Exactly. See what I mean?

[Julia]

Frank Zappa. Frank Zappa.

[Lisa]

I was just gonna say Frank Zappa.

[Julia]

Yep.

[Top Lobster]

So I don't even really need to go into this. Like, I. I had went into a deep dive after I looked into Edgewood, and I'm like, this is an entire episode. This is an entire series of episodes. So he. He goes there and that's like. You know, people speculate that that could be the beginning of the MK Ultra program. Different CIA programs that are starting from this one place. Yeah, he. He comes out and I guess he writes that book soon after the. No, no.

[David Lee Corbo]

You don't wake up dreaming of McDonald's fries. You wake up dreaming of McDonald's hash browns.

[Top Lobster]

McDonald's breakfast comes first. He writes that, like in the 60s, I believe, or just before 1960. The sacred mushroom. And he also does some telepathy studies. But before that, like, when he comes out, one of the first things that he does is he meets a Indian mystic doctor named Dr. Vinod. Dr. Dr. DG Vinod is this guy's name. And they. They hit it off and they start to do their thing and they start to channel some. You know, just, let's. Let's go. I guess that's what you do when you meet somebody. I don't know, in the occult you're like, let's fucking channel stuff.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah. I think you're beyond like going to, you know, friendlies. It doesn't, you know, like, what's the point of getting two occultists that are into telepathy together if you're gonna just go and have a grand slam at Denny's? Like you want to go and summon entities?

[Top Lobster]

No, skip the foreplay. Yeah. So they just start summoning entities, I suppose. And one of the entities that comes to them, it has a name, but it doesn't really give itself a name. It's. It's identifying itself as nine other entities.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And the entities that it calls itself are Atom, Shoe. Ten foot. Ten foot. Gib. Nut. Nut. Nice. Osiris, Isis, Set and Nephthys, which are the. Yeah. These are the names of the Egyptian Ennead.

[David Lee Corbo]

These Egyptian Eniad, baby.

[Robbie Marks]

Right.

[Top Lobster]

And nine.

[David Lee Corbo]

I was talking about it a little bit too. And I'm sure we'll end up getting into it, but on, on Tick Tock there seems to be like this big renaissance. Not a renaissance that, I guess Renaissance in the way of like, you know, going back to. Because these are old spiritual principles and old entities. But they're suddenly coming into the narrative again. There's a lady that, I forget what her name is, would have been watching her on Tick Tock got a ouija board like 20 years ago and was communicating with something her and her husband were. And they had an ongoing dialogue with this thing for, you know, two decades. And eventually they get a lot of information from it. It identifies itself as Seven, which interestingly enough there is on. You can find a book called the Council of Nine or the Council of Saturn. And it's written by Seven. And it has the same message that this Seven has to this woman on Tick Tock. And that message is more or less like we have to spiritually ascend and we have to be careful because we're moving towards a calamity, some sort of a climate related Earth affecting calamity. And this is the same thing that Puharij got from the Ennead. Right. This is the same thing that you see it like over and over again. It's the same thing that the Galactic Federation of Light is telling you. Right. It's this Council of Aliens that it reminds me of.

[Julia]

What's that book called? That was Channel. The Law of One Channeled. Doesn't it remind you of that?

[David Lee Corbo]

Because it is the same thing. It's this narrative. It's been repeating itself for so this is our contention on Nephilim Death Squad is that this is a masterful rebranding because much of the apparatus, like Hollywood or NASA or the scientific community, has been geared towards feeding us a narrative. And that narrative is that, you know, we are maybe not the smartest thing in the universe. There are things that are beyond us and they're hyper advanced, technologically speaking. And also in between, like shooting lasers at us and destroying our cities in like the Day the Earth Stood still or something, there's this other narrative that begins to emerge, and that is they're going to help us ascend and they're very concerned with us destroying ourselves in mutually assured nuclear destruction.

[Top Lobster]

So let me, let me, I wrote down exactly what they, what they're warning of. So they warn of technology misuse, like with nuclear weapons, environmental crises, and an impending shift in human consciousness toward enlightenment or collapse. Yeah, so all these things are like kind of New Age ideas. Then they also talk about the Galactic Federation of Light and all this stuff like, you know, thousands of light years away and shit like that, where you, you'll hear, I forget the names of these, these, these Federation actors, but they're very upset with us and how we've been behaving on Earth, so how we've.

[David Lee Corbo]

Been treating the planet.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. And what I found interesting is that it's consistently the same message from that Puharich is getting, that these other. He brings a couple of other psychics or people that are remote viewers. Remote viewers. And they are, they are also channeling the nine for about 20 plus years. It goes from like 1950 to at least 1972. And then whenever these programs, they just stop. They're like, oh, yeah, we just stopped. Like we figured out what we needed. I have a, you know, I don't believe them.

[David Lee Corbo]

So it could be that's the same thing, right? When they say, like, oh, the MK Ultra program was real, but it stopped. It's like, no, it stopped because they realized it's successful and now they could roll it out to the masses. That's why it stopped, because it's no longer a consolidated experimentation with one to two to three patients and a small crew that you're working with. This is now proven, it's a reliable method. And now it's time to roll it out to the masses in the form of, you know, the gigantic propaganda machine. I think we actually talked about that with you a little bit, Nick, when you came on Nephilim Death Squad was this idea that back in the day they'd have to Strap you to a chair, you know, Clockwork Orange style after they kidnapped you from a whorehouse and they peel your eyeballs open and they'd subject you to lsd. And all of this subliminal messaging in this propaganda machine, they don't do that anymore. Now we're constantly inundating ourselves with a low grade psychedelic in the form of the marijuana that's been, you know, it's had the THC dialed up through the roof. And we're all constantly on this, like I said, low grade psychedelic. And we're all constantly just. We've got it in our hands. Here's our little MK Ultra machine, right? It's just hitting us with all the propaganda. And so, yeah, it doesn't stop. They just say, oh, it works. It's time to roll it out and, and get everybody hooked on it.

[Julia]

Yeah, I agree. You know, and it's crazy to think too, because there are a few names I can think of in particular that came off like the Gaia Network. I don't know if you guys are familiar with that, but like David Wilcock and like all these guys.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Oh, yeah, he's. He's big on the law of one. And it's all the same stuff. And it's crazy because he talks about the same stuff Puharich talked about. And Puharich was notorious for working with like the Pentagon, the CIA, Naval Intelligence. So it's like, if you guys are going to believe this stuff about the Laurel Canyon and all that being like, designed and fed to us, why not this, this narrative of, of these extraterrestrial bird feather head beings coming back and.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay, that's even. You just stepped in something, Julia. You don't. This morning. This morning I'm listening to a tick tock. My wife is showing me a tick tock of a guy who's. He's like, I don't know what to do. I guess I'm gonna share it with you guys. I walked into the kitchen this morning and something happened. My head snapped back and my body became paralyzed and I was suddenly transported to a different place. And this place is like a meeting. That's what he says. He's like, I don't know, it was like a boardroom, like a meeting. And then he goes, it was like, like a council. Like, oh, that's funny. And then he goes, they're all talking about mankind and they're saying that people are waking up and the time is coming, right? And he gets freaked out and somehow manages to snap out of it. Looks over to his little dog. He's back in his kitchen. His dog looks concerned. Next thing you know, it starts happening again. He feels that his body gets hot. He snaps into it. His head's looking at the ceiling. And he is now once again transported to this council, to this meeting. And. And that's the conversation. It just happens again. Basically, it's female voices, male voices. It seems to be, you know, not that many people, and they're talking about mankind's ascension and that. That we're all waking up and the time is coming. And then they even go. This one seems to be stronger than we thought. They always tell us that we're special. They always tell us where there's nothing.

[Julia]

Well, that's how they sell it to you, because you have to be special.

[David Lee Corbo]

Exactly. I want to kind of bring it back for one second, though, because Robbie said something earlier that was like. We mulled over it, but you were saying that who was it that was using the. The ice bath technique? Was that Puharij?

[Robbie Marks]

Yeah, Puharich in the sacred mushroom. He talks about the Siberian shamans and how they would condition their bodies in order to be able to facilitate this astral travel. And one of the processes that he talks about is the ice bath.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay, so this is actually perfect because this is something that people aren't drawing a correlation to, and it's one of the correlations that we've drawn. I'm going to go ahead and say it because there's more to what we're thinking about anyway, but this is a piece of it. And it's basically that in the telepathy tapes, for example, they're studying non verbal autistic children, and we're on YouTube. So I'm going to use choice language here to not get you guys nuked. But there is a growing field of study that suggests that, you know, certain medical intervention will lead to autism within children. And in fact, it's something that this administration is currently talking about. Right. And that's one thing. Let's put that on the table. Right? We have autistic children. How did they become autistic? It's open to speculation, but eventually it leads to some sort of telepathic powers. Right? Okay, let's go. Montauk project, let's go. MK Ultra. What are we doing here? We're studying the suggestibility, but also the potentiality for like, latent psychic abilities in people. But how are we doing this? How are we mind controlling people? How are we splitting the mind? How are we revealing latent psychic ability? It's through trauma, right? So you're looking at one form of trauma in the form of inoculations. You're looking at another form of trauma in like, let's say a sensationalized Stranger Things, right, where you're taking 11 and you're putting her through this thing so she develops these powers or you're in an ice bath. And I know that doesn't sound too intense, but what they all equate to is disassociation. Yeah, there's a disassociation, a dissociative identity, identity disorder that is at the root of being able to display these powers. Now what I would say is that we've always been able to do it. But much like a blind person whose remaining senses become incredibly heightened, if you trap a child in their body because they're now non verbal autistic, they're going to lean into whatever senses still exist for them that are available. So what we're seeing is weird because the narrative is such. I'm trying to do this without giving away too much. But the narrative is becoming down syndrome and autism almost seem like the next step in human evolution. You might even call it ascension. Right? And that's a weird narrative because to me, a lot of that is birthed out of some form of trauma. Especially if we come to find out, you know, soon because of RFK or something like that, that there really is something tremendously nefarious about these medical interventions that we give the children. It's a schedule that goes all the way up to like 60 some odd, you know, injections before they're a certain age. So sure, it's different ice bath inoculations and, and you know, trauma based mind control. But trauma is the great connecting tissue. And somehow we are getting to this point in this narrative where like this is indicative of ascension. Like these are, these are advanced evolutionary processes that we're going through. Just anecdotally yesterday Top is, is doing his other show. It's a comedy show, Tower Gang, the Telepathy Tapes comes up anecdotally. And every single person on the show besides Top goes, you know what, dude? I think autistic people are down syndrome people are like evolved. They're like, like evolved forms. Like they're the next step in evolution. And then parts of the mind.

[Top Lobster]

I just saw that guy run on the walls. I'm. I don't really know about that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like, wouldn't it be something if we all had that ability? It's just been stifled and there's been a real long con to try to have it re. Emerge under a different context.

[Julia]

So I'm sure Elon would agree with you because they're always saying what a genius he is and he's autistic and.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right, right, right. Our most genius people are autists of some sort.

[Robbie Marks]

Yeah, Puharich, he goes from that sacred mushroom book and then he writes beyond telepathy, which he's using mushrooms to basically try to bring about telepathy within people.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah, I, I really do think that there is some sort of narrative emerging. And you know, Puharij ended up leading us there, but all these different aspects all come to a crossroads. And that crossroad is like trauma based psychic abilities. But it's coming from everywhere. Right. It's coming from like the MK Ultra program. It's coming from the, you know, the, the Montauk project. If you believe in the version that we get from Stranger Things, I know that's a sensationalized fictional, you know, piece of art, but I, I also understand that much truth is told in fiction and that even the trope of like the little bald girl in the medical gown stems from stories of people that were like, local and claimed to have found like, kids walking around and, you know, these. Once again, it's all anecdotal stories, but it all stems from some, you know, nugget of truth. And I don't know, I. I've been feeling a lot lately, like there is this big repackaging. We talked about it a little bit on Nephilim Death Squad. Well, with the both of you guys. Oh, go ahead, Top.

[Top Lobster]

Hey, let's explain the repackaging part because I feel like that's. That this, this might be like one of the unique things that we've seen from the Puhari stuff because you'll get information from everywhere. But the idea of the nine that he's channeling, they claim to be the Egyptian Ennead and they give him these specific names. And we also know that like these entities, these age old entities don't particularly like being called by their actual name because then they can be controlled. You'll see it with like Solomon's Temple. Well, he'll have their sigil and then they'll draw a circle around their sigil, meaning that they're.

[David Lee Corbo]

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[Top Lobster]

So they could. I guess the idea would be that they could control it. I don't know, Nick. You might know better than. Than I do about this kind of stuff.

[David Lee Corbo]

You don't wake up dreaming of McDonald's fries. You wake up dreaming of McDonald's hash browns.

[Top Lobster]

McDonald's breakfast comes first.

[Nick]

Yeah, with the, with the goatia.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Nick]

I think it's more of. Less of like with yourself. And I think the power of angels or angels help you will be able to render the demons. Yeah, you have their sigils. Sometimes you'll even wear them on your. On your garb to even show that, like, I'm controlling you.

[Top Lobster]

Right, right. So anyway, I guess that's a good point to bring it to. Like, these guys don't really want know their names because there's a lot of power in their name. So they're constantly rebranding. And when we hear about the nine, this is another thing that started to clue me in about this nine. Like a heard it on Merkel show. There's a guy doing a documentary about like Skinwalker Ranch. And then he. He brings up this council of nine. And I'm like, all right. First time I heard it. And then it comes up again. You hear it in. Well, obviously this. The Egyptian Ennead, there's nine of them. Greek mythology, there's the nine Muses. In Norse mythology, you have the nine worlds, like Nilfim, Asgard, Midgard, shit like that. In Chinese mythology. Now I just started getting crazy with it and I started searching. I was like, chinese mythology, nine. I was like, yeah, there's the nine dragons there, the serpentine dragons that guide you throughout, you know, into the afterlife. In Hindu mythology, you've got the nav. Navgara, the nine celestial bodies, which are they. They all have the same number and they all have the same characteristics. Mesoamerican mythology and then even say throw in Satanism. Levay and Satanism has their, their council of nine is their governing body. That's below their like, I guess they're, I don't know what they'd call their head person, but below them that in, in their church structure they are nine and they call them, they sit on the council of nine. So I'm just like, yeah, of course. It's just another thing to put in, in my pocket here with these entities and like the, the veneration or this idea of nine you have, you also have, you know, Tesla is talking about three, six, nine. So three is, I forget what that is. Six is the number of man and nine is the number of like the ascension, the stars. Right. So there, there has to be something here that we're looking at that this number is significant and it continues to pop up. The, the descriptions of these things or at least the way that they behave are all the same. And what they're telling the people that they're coming in contact with is all the same stuff.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, this is that one actually there. Shout Out Marky Mark was something that top. And I heard that's a cult. Yeah, yeah. Well we have a buddy, Jose Galison who does a lot of work on the order of nine angles. And, and we're just insisting like no, there's got to be a connection there. It's a satanic cult. They have their sigils and their signs and everything. Otherwise everything about them is inherently satanic. Right. In the way that they present this, this cult. But for some reason people don't think it has anything to do with nine angels. And I think there is really something there. But I kind of feel like the, you know, just to go back to that rebranding thing, if these things really are age old entities, well then I start to look at like NASA very skeptically and everybody looks at NASA very skeptically, rightfully. So they do quite a bit of lying. Right. And so you know, Werner von Braun having been taken from Operation Paperclip, Jack Parsons, he works over at Jet Propulsion Laboratories. They're hand in hand with NASA. And so you really can't separate that. Like I don't want to just say occultism, I want to say like seeking of spiritual knowledge from these technological industries like a NASA or something like that. And I look at those four mentioned institutions and then I look at Hollywood and how they've given us like this alien narrative over all these years. And then of course the way that plays with like lamb and the Amalancho workings and, and you know, Alistair Kra communicating with these entities. And I, I, they're all very incestually connected. And I do just feel like what we've got here is a long con, A long con to rebrand them as what I was talking about before. Our benign space brothers that are here to, you know, liberate us in one way.

[Top Lobster]

That theme pops up as well. The we, we start to get like pretty intergalactic space traveler stuff. When he, he meets Yuri Geller when he brings him over from Israel in the 70s, that's when we get this UFO boom. And Yuri Geller apparently is able to summon, I think I, I don't know much about. He's able to summon UFOs.

[Robbie Marks]

So he's, so Yuri Geller, he was in the Israeli military. He was inducted as an Israeli spy. He has, you know, you just have to wonder because the links between all the spy networks and the UFO and then the drugs, as far as the different hallucinogens and how they're kind of piling all these things into, you know, one kind of programming unit.

[Julia]

He was supposedly able to bend spoons as well, right. And had some kind of telepathic power. And from what I know, Yuri Geller and Andrea were besties, but they also had a bestie named Peter Hercos who was also a supposed psychic to the stars. And he was in and about the Laurel Canyon and Roman Polanski actually asked Peter Hercos to come investigate the, the Tate murders to see who the real murderer was. Like we didn't all know it was CIA Charles Manson. But anyways, Peter Herkos was called in on that. And then later on they found out that Yuri, Andrea and Peter Herkos were all tight with Anton Lavey. So if you want to talk about some, you know, propaganda, Satanism, angle of nine, whatever that, I mean it's, it's all tied together.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's just funny how all these guys were friends. I, I just wish I could be a fly in the wall during those few decades where I could see these guys because it's such a small world. You're like you, I don't know, you learn about these guys independently and then all of a sudden you find this connective tissue and you realize, yeah, they're all hanging in the same circles and they're all doing. And they birthed our modern day intelligence operations that we're still subjected to.

[Julia]

100. 100.

[Robbie Marks]

So interestingly, when you look at Yuri Geller and all the, you know, he would change the Hands on the watch in front of people, he would make things disappear. Like one time he was looking at a Derringer pistol and it disappeared in front of him. But the, the entities that they were commun. That Yuri Geller was communicating with being this, this body of nine, they were saying they're in the future, they're planning these events hundreds of thousands of years ahead of time. And, and just, and it's interesting because he talks about. Buharich talks about getting engulfed in a beam of light and that there was no time. And it was essentially like, you know, only the things that were moved in time were the differences we see. And that very much complements what Philip K. Dick saw with the beam of light and thinking that it was still the fall of Rome and modern time. And then that gets into the Black Knight satellite.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, that's fascinating.

[Robbie Marks]

Oh yeah, because, well, it was this idea that this pink beam shot down from this black light satellite that kind of programmed Philip K. Dick. Right. Whereas Puharich talks about this, this beam that he's engulfed in, and he also talks about an 8,000-year-old satellite that was put in place that's circling the Earth. That's programming. So both Philip K. Dick and Puharich are both. And they're both tied in with MK Ultra. They're both tied in with a lot of this, you know, similar type stuff.

[David Lee Corbo]

Did you. Yeah, recently there was, I don't know, I've tried to validate it and it's, you know, it's just one of those things that's a little bit slippery. But there's a video going around. It's, it's going viral on X right now. And it's allegedly a leak from 2018 from NASA of another POV of the black Knight satellite. And it actually moves right beneath the space station or whatever. So you get this really elongated, you know, pov. It's like an eight minute video, I think. And the thing is in the distance, it's very small, but eventually it passes underneath. And it is incredibly symmetrical. If this is real, it's incredibly symmetrical. It looks exactly like a, like a ship. Like, it looks like something would occupy it. It doesn't look like a, you know, a kind of a chaotic rock structure. Not at all. It looks just like a ship. It looks like a really cool ship designed from like a sci fi film. And so I just find that fascinating that if that is real. Well, it seems like the Black Knight satellite is making a reemergence in sort of the conspiracy zeitgeist.

[Top Lobster]

Right, you mentioned. Sorry. So go ahead, go ahead. I'll wait.

[Lisa]

Just real quick, just real quick. To Robbie's point and then to Yalls point about the 9 didn't. Whenever Baruch was writing the mushroom book, he was in Oaxaca and he was actually doing rituals with the Chinitos or.

[Robbie Marks]

Yes. So now. Interesting. Go ahead, go ahead.

[Lisa]

So the Chanitos, I think they're from Oaxaca and I believe in some of the stuff that we have read. They believe in like a father, son, mother moon or something like that. Which is. Which. Looking at some of the oldest grimoires, that's some of the basis of the hermeticism and alchemical theories. And the fact that the Chinitos are. I'm probably saying that wrong. The fact that they kind of have that ritual predates some of. Obviously pre Columbian. Right. But it predates a lot of the stuff with alchemical stuff. So they're, they're also doing that and then to have Buhari doing that. But what's interesting with your 9 is that the Mexica, which are the Aztecs, they have a concept of nine lords of the night. I think it has smoking mirror or lord of fire, all that stuff. And then they also have the nine underworlds as well. But they didn't believe in a hell. They just in. In a lower type of dimensions like.

[Julia]

Dante's Inferno type shit. Like there's seven like nine layers or something like that.

[Lisa]

It's more. I think it's like the lowest, the lowest heaven was like on the moon or something like that. It has. They don't have, don't have a concept of hell. They just have levels of dimensions, kind.

[Robbie Marks]

Of like the tree of life.

[Julia]

Are you talking about Oaxaca, Mexico? You were talking.

[Top Lobster]

That's what you were talking about.

[Lisa]

Which is.

[Julia]

I just came across something about that where they're. They were really into like bloodletting and.

[Robbie Marks]

Oh yeah.

[Julia]

And like blood rituals and so that makes sense. They're practicing some dark stuff too.

[Lisa]

And Oaxaca is central Mexico. And this is where a majority of all of your top tier belief systems all venture. To Mormons.

[Robbie Marks]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lisa]

Go down to. Not specifically this space in Mexico, but to that, that region of south Mexico.

[Julia]

It's like a granddaddy religion type of basic pillar. Sure. Well, I just wanted to say real quick too because I pulled up my notes from when I covered this guy and he was investigating some type of low frequency radiation beam that the Soviet Union had been testing. And he said. Oh, okay. I, I was gonna say. He said it did all Kinds of crazy. And I think they're still probably using it.

[Top Lobster]

Let's bring it up. Let's. It. I mean, mine as well.

[Robbie Marks]

So before we move on, I want to, I want to talk about Puharich and, and the Watcho and the mushrooms. He, Puharich was going to the New York library and he was researching mushrooms and the librarian was like, oh, that's weird. There's only one other guy that's researching mushrooms and that's Gordon Watson. And Gordon Watson was the guy that went down to South America on the MK Ultra ticket. We have the receipts for all that with Albert Hoffman, who Puharich was training under. They talk about in the Yuri Geller book. And basically they were getting those mushrooms specifically for the beginnings of MK Ultra. So it's all tied in.

[Top Lobster]

Do you know when he was. Yeah, so when he was going down.

[Robbie Marks]

There in the 50s. 52, 55. But Gordon Wasson, he ended up riding the first article on using psychedelic mushrooms that the loose brothers who are tied in with the military industrial complex basically promoted through Life magazine as the beginning of MK Ultra. And it, you know, there's a cover and it says what? It says something, Teenage allowances or something like that. And then it says, you know, something South American mushrooms. But yeah, this is all tied in with MK Ultra and, and the intelligence services. And again, you know, it's kind of beautiful because it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Just to reiterate it, I don't worry, I'm not going on a tangent top. But just to reiterate it, just the idea that this guy is almost in some ways the inception of the machine that's, you know, geared towards us right now. I would argue that in 2025 we're seeing the culmination of all of that work, all those generations, all those decades of work.

[Top Lobster]

100. So look, you mentioned Philip K. Dick and I was like, I have him in my notes as well. He's an author, a sci fi author. He claims to have been abducted.

[David Lee Corbo]

They always are a sci fi author, aren't they? L. Ron Hubbard, the most prolific. Yeah, Steve, Yeah.

[Robbie Marks]

It's sort of a prophet. Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

He gets that gnosis from a pink ray of light, which you said that Buharich also experienced. But here's what's interesting.

[David Lee Corbo]

You don't wake up dreaming of McDonald's fries. You wake up dreaming of McDonald's hash browns.

[Top Lobster]

McDonald's breakfast comes first. All of his experiences are triggered by, you'll never guess what a fucking dental surgery. He gets a dental surgery, all of a sudden he kind of starts going off the rails and getting these, I don't know, downloads where he's writing these books. Now, I have a theory as well with this dental surgery stuff. I started to look into L. Ron Hubbard, who's sort of connected in. In this kind of like, loosely, tangentially.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

So I was like, how did Scientology start? It was like, well, L. Ron Hubbard in like, you know, right. Right before the 50s, he. He almost died. Guess what he was doing? He was having fucking dental surgery. And then after that, he came back with all these cosmic truths and created this religion now that is kind of like basically a honeypot for celebrities. So I'm like, I don't know where to put that, but it's certainly floating around in my. In my mind as we continue to, like, move. Move forward with the story. Another thing, before we get to the ELF waves, the extra extremely low frequency waves, I guess you could call them in South America, in Brazil, he comes up again. Doctor. Dr. Andreja Puharich. Because there's a guy named Dr. Arugo. He's. His name is Jose Pedro de Freitas. That's what he was born as in the 20s in Brazil, he was a taxi driver, and he had no formal medical training or he didn't have a license, nothing like that. Around the 50s, he claims that he channels this German, this dead German surgeon named Dr. Fritz, and he starts performing surgeries while he's in this trance state. They call him the. The doctor of the rusty knife because he's successfully taking out people's tumors. He's giving. He's just like looking at them, giving them advice. And people from all around Brazil are coming to see this guy. He eventually gets shut down by the Brazilian government. But from what I've heard and what I've said, there's even video of him doing stuff. He healed a blind girl. But of course, during his. During his, you know, little tenure there as a doctor, and when he stepped away from the taxi driving business, Andreja Puharich pays him a visit, right? And with Andre under his studies, he says, yeah, this guy's legit. He's doing. He's. He's doing the right thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

And then, yeah, because Puhari kind of becomes like a Nick Fury, right? He's like gathering the psychic avengers.

[Robbie Marks]

He cut a, like a 2 inch by 4 inch tumor out of his arm. And then basically no antibiotics, no nothing. Told him, don't worry about it. And it healed up just fine. So they say, yeah, it's.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, you know what I think A lot of the, the. We touched on it before, right? Julia, you said it. It's like in order to get you to do this thing, they have to convince you that you're special. A lot of the people, it's like you're. You're struck by this profound experience. Here in the west, we tell you that pay no mind to the spiritual realm. And there are many of us who don't even believe that it exists. Certainly scientism has, you know, materialism has gripped all of our. Our industries that would stand any chance at, like, detecting a spiritual realm. And so you start from a place of not even, you know, this doesn't exist. Then when you have an experience because you don't believe that it was real previously, it's incredibly profound. And you mistake that profound experience as this must then be the truth. So on Nephilim Death Squad, I mean, it's a Christian show, and we do caution people. And the reason that we caution people, it's not like we're sitting here like crystals are evil or remote viewing is evil or astral projection is evil. No, actually, I think these are natural things that, you know, exists within the human condition and also exists within the realm that we inhabit. The thing is, we've been stripped of the map. We used to understand these things to a much higher degree. If you go into the ocean or you go into the woods, you know that you're going to find a plethora of things. Clownfish are pretty cool. Coral reef. Don't touch them. It's beautiful, but don't touch them, you'll destroy them. Also, stay the hell away from sharks. Right? And the same thing with the woods, chipmunks, all that. It's adorable. You could forage, you could find plant life. Watch out for bears and their cubs. You don't want to be near them. Well, imagine if bears were, like thousands of years old and incredibly intelligent and know way more about you than you know about them. And they know exactly how to deceive you. That is the problem. The spiritual realm is filled with a plethora of different entities. Let's just call them entities. Some of them aren't the biggest fans of us. And some of them are excellent at deception. Excellent at deception. And all it takes, it turns out, is to just tell us that we're special and then that's it. We'll fall for whatever it is. So show us something. Shock and awe. And then tell us that the reason that we saw it, the reason that we perceived it is because we're unique. We're special. We're meant for something. And then you have us. We're so simple in that way. So, like I said, it's a Christian show. We're not just. Just blanketly dismissing things as evil. We're cautioning dummies who don't have a map of the spiritual realm, who up until very recently didn't think that it existed at all. And I would even say that our understanding has been stripped purposefully so that we could repackage and rebrand and ship it back out to the people under a different context.

[Julia]

Yeah, I mean, I consider myself a Christian, so I'm right there with you guys. And I've had people talk to me about zodiacs stuff and, you know, tarot and crystals, and, I mean, if anything, you can just maybe say that they could be tools in your tool bag, but they're not supposed to be worshiped. They're not supposed to become religion in any way. But it gets all, like, cloudy and weird, you know, because everything's like.

[David Lee Corbo]

You don't wake up dreaming of McDonald's fries. You wake up dreaming of. Of McDonald's hash browns.

[Top Lobster]

McDonald's breakfast comes first.

[Julia]

Demonized, which I try not to do, but I guess the whole thing is like, they operate on a basis of ancient knowledge that we are completely unaware of. And if you read the Bible at any length, you're going to find magic all throughout the Bible. But they understood the, like, the keys of Solomon and stuff like this.

[Robbie Marks]

It's.

[Julia]

It's in there, but you have to understand it. And, you know, I. I don't understand the keys of Solomon, but obviously he did. And it's like Nick said, he had, like, the sigils and the angels and he had all this stuff, but, I mean, it's. It's such a rabbit hole really, when you think about it. And it's been weaponized against us. Like, learn this stuff. Go ahead.

[David Lee Corbo]

There's actually two major problems with it. One is the one that I just laid out where they can deceive us. But the other one is like, well, what happens if you really do know your. What happens if you really are clever enough to navigate this? What happens if you become so adept that you can create sigils and trap these ancient entities into doing your bidding? Absolute power corrupts absolutely. That's what's wrong with it. So it's like a losing battle either way. It's like, I. I would say arm yourself with the knowledge and. And, you know, if you're gonna go and explore these things, I would recommend going with Jesus Christ because literally we have authority over scorpions and serpents. Serpents through his name. So I take that as to mean we have authority through Jesus Christ's name. Almost like a spell over these entities that inhabit these realm, if they are in fact negative. But on the other end of it, if you just go too far, well, then you're gonna. Hey, what happens when human beings figure out that we can identify the building blocks of this realm and then we can manipulate them? It's like, what's the building blocks? Oh, well, it's sacred geometry. It's. It's symbolism, it's numerology. It's all these different things. They are real. They are just like. It's more of an observation of the nature of our realm. But once we are aware that they're there, there are going to be huge swaths of us that seek to manipulate that.

[Top Lobster]

That.

[David Lee Corbo]

And then what? You know what I mean? So it's. It's like, I. I understand why we're cautioned against it. I don't think any of us are equipped to have that kind of power and to not use it to our own benefit. And that's where everything starts to go wrong. So it's. You know, I just wanted to put that out there because I know a lot of Christians will just dismiss these things of, like, of the devil. I don't even think that's true. I don't think these entities can create. I think that's why they commission us constantly. They inspire us as the muses. They whisper to us, they nudge us, they give us ideas, and then we create them.

[Robbie Marks]

Create?

[David Lee Corbo]

They can't create.

[Julia]

That's exactly it. You're crushing it. That's exactly how I feel too.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. And they. But what they do is they corrupt and they invert. So they will take spiritual principles and laws that the Creator put here, who created this universe, and they will twist them in a way and obfuscate their meaning and. And bastardize the intention of why they're there in the first place.

[Julia]

Well, if you look at cult leaders, that's the first thing they do. Make you feel special. Do you? A little magic trick. And then the next thing you know, you're drinking flavor trade somewhere on Jonestown.

[David Lee Corbo]

They also love bomb you. Right? They love bomb you. Right?

[Julia]

Right. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Like the Galactic Federation of Light. I don't know if you ever. They're like dear ones. That's how they start. They call you ones. Like we are all the one. That's just like how do we convince, like, all of them that they're special? Just. Just call them all ones? I know that doesn't even make any goddamn. Just call them all ones. And so that's what they do. They start off, they're like, dear ones. And it's always like this. I don't love anybody that I don't know. I'm just sorry. That's just how I am. I might like you, I might wish you well, but I don't love anybody that I don't know. Not in a real intimate way. So whenever somebody comes over, I've watched love bombing. My wife used to be a Jehovah Witness. And she tells me, yeah, when you first show up, they like, celebrate you. Like, you made the best decision and you're special, and that's why you're here. You're one of the 144, 000 that are going to be whisked away, you know, and go with Jesus when the. When the time comes. And it's like everything is about making you special. So, yeah, it's. It's a. It's a way to let your guard down. And it's. It's almost embarrassing that we keep all.

[Julia]

So something that Nick said to me one time that's always stuck with me is, didn't. Don't they say in like, occultism or something, I'm a man among men? Like, they make that distinction, like, you're special, you're a man above men or something like that. Isn't that right, Nick?

[Nick]

Yes.

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Even in the gnostic mass, the guy says, I'm a man of movement.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. What I find significant about that is it's kind of the opposite of what the Bible tells you. The Bible tells you that you're kind of a sinful. And like, look, I don't know about anybody else, but I know all the ways in which I'm flawed. And. And that's kind of why we lead with this, like, retard catch line. Yeah. I guess you could call it humble. I mean, it's weird because in some ways we aren't humble. But I'm acutely aware that I don't know. Right? I don't know. And that because, I don't know, I am easily deceived. And so I have to stave that off. There's a lot of people, you guys know, he's like, you do a show and like the audience, because you say something that aligns with them, they're like, you're great. You're killing it. This is Important. I'm like, I don't know if it's important. I know that I'm retarded. And maybe sometimes I say some good. But other than that, that's as far as I'm willing to go.

[Julia]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

No.

[Julia]

And as a conspiracy theory, you almost have to believe that everybody's out to get you at some point. I mean, I do. I'm like, everyone's lying to me. This is all a conspiracy. The government is involved. Get away from me. I hold everyone at, like, arm's distance now because you just don't. I can't even listen to music anymore, especially Laurel Canyon stuff. I'm like, God, I just want to shoot myself.

[David Lee Corbo]

You start to hear it. Everything has a message. Everything has a way it wants you to behave. I want to pose a question. Everything. Because you guys all have a really unique perspective. And. And, you know, typically, we're the host. We don't get to, you know, I guess. Well, here, let me put it to you this way. Earlier on in the show, I said that it's strange that, like, Rogan is. He's pushing these float tanks. We know that that's from John C. Lilly, and he's jerking off dolphins. And. And we know that MK Ultra took a. A big interest in his work. Right? And it's very much the same thing. It's. It's sensory deprivation, but it's also LSD or psychedelics. And so Rogan injects that into the culture. And that's. There's no doubt about that, by the way. There's so many sensory deprivation tank, wellness centers, I don't know what you would call them, that attribute their inspiration to Joe Rogan. And he says that. So we know that that's a true thing. Okay, what else has he done? He's also highly popularized. I mean, he is responsible for swaths of white people going to the jungle and doing ayahuasca. Right. I mean, swaths and swaths. And also, you know, dimethyltryptamine. And he's done a strange thing where he's introduced these two spiritual. Very, very spiritual things into the cultural zeitgeist, but he's removed the spirituality from it. He doesn't really talk about that. Right. It's more like, well, what about the psychological benefits? You know, people that are. Yeah, yeah. Or what about anxiety? What about depression? What about ptsd? These things can help, right? So he's done that. But also, the dude is responsible for taking the telepathy tapes from a rather unknown podcast to, number one in the world number one in the world. They beat him. They took his slot. Joe Rogan was number one for the longest time. All of a sudden. And then when you start to look into the telepathy tapes, just given what I said before, right, about the Montauk Project, about MK Ultra, this is all trauma based mind control and latent psychic abilities, right? That's the name of the game. Why is the biggest show in the world, and so arguably one of the most culturally impactful shows in the world, repackaging and giving us MK Ultra narratives.

[Robbie Marks]

I, I think it's interesting because when you go back to the ideas of the Dionysian acting schools and the beginning of theater and the idea of like, there's a whole class of actors with Robert de Niro, Danny DeVito that basically were in this acting school where they. And Johnny Depp, you see it too, where they basically become the character. Yeah, they, they embody that character, but they're possessed. Yeah, but one of the tenants of that acting school is the idea that you're not necessarily teaching people through the, the play itself, but by the nuance of the character and who the character is themselves and how they view the world. Kind of like Holden Caulfield, you know, within Catcher and the Rye. But it's this idea of teaching through, through subtlety and nuance. So you're teaching through who the character themselves are rather than what they're projecting.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah, I see that a lot. Joe Rogan does that masterfully, actually. If you ever pay attention to the way that he himself will not espouse a certain theory. Not that often, at least. Instead, what he'll play is like the unwilling participant in a dialogue where he starts off skeptically and then leads his guest into a way where they shine, right? They crush. He'll set him up and, and let them knock it out of the park. And then by the end of it, he's still not too sure, but he's done the job, right? So to the audience, you're almost sitting there going, what do you mean, Rogan? Look, didn't you listen to what this guy just said? He said all the things, but he's allowed. He's setting up a set of circumstances for you to respond that way, right? So you look at him, almost frustrated. Why aren't you seeing this thing? There was a time where Rogan used to talk about, you know, whatever it is, flat earth or, or, you know, Pizzagate or something like that, and then he stops it. Now he's reemerging with those concepts he just had like Ian Carillon and all this other. And I, I just think that he is. You're right, Robbie. It's not like we. We're not as receptive to somebody that walks out onto the stage and does a TED Talk. Instead, we're more receptive to somebody who we perceive as on our level intellectually or maybe even beneath us intellectually. And then you watch them receive the information. And in a way it's like a stand in for you. Like Joe Rogan is a stand in for the audience. And if Joe Rogan can be convinced or inundated with information, then it's, you know, it's happening to you too. And it's happening to the tune of. Of millions of people.

[Lisa]

Well, he's always interject Raven. Joe Rogan and Nick did a show on this. Joe Rogan got his start from Aubrey Marcus. And it was Aubrey Marcus who actually inserted the idea of psychedelics and going in South America and doing all that. Look at Aubrey Marcus's dad. He has tied Stanford Esalen as well as all of those think tanks as well. So that's the connection that then. And then. As well as not only his dad, but his dad had passed away. But you have Stanford and you have a psychedelic startup. Companies that have a lot of ties to the current administration's funders.

[Julia]

Yeah, I see it all the time too, because it's like. Oh, I was just gonna say. I say it all the time because people, it's like people forget that he is an actor, but it's like this guy.

[David Lee Corbo]

You don't wake up dreaming of McDonald's fries. You wake up dreaming of McDonald's hash browns.

[Top Lobster]

McDonald's breakfast comes first.

[Julia]

He used to host Fear Factor.

[David Lee Corbo]

He was on. Right.

[Julia]

He is an actor.

[David Lee Corbo]

He used to hose.

[Julia]

Freaking Fear Factor. Okay, so how is this guy who used to host this show getting people to get supplements and put stuff into their body? I don't even get that. Like, before I really got on the Joe Rogan thing, he got me because I was like, I need to be taking these medicinal mushrooms and I've got like mushroom coffee and mushroom tinctures. Joe Rogan said Joe Rogan. Well, who the hell is Joe Rogan? He used to host Fear Factory. Like this guy's a nobody.

[Robbie Marks]

Yeah. Are they trying to sell all these mushroom products to institute and bring about.

[Julia]

Telepathy and people, man, it's just weird to me, you know, and he's, he's like the top dog on. And. And it's like, use code. Joe Rogan to, you know, get this stuff and put it in your body. Like, who are you, dude?

[Lisa]

Those supplements come from. From the startup of Aubrey Marcus.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. Yeah, dude. I literally take I all the. That I talk about Joe Rogan. I literally take Alpha brain every. I don't miss it. It goes in every show. I also take stupid mushroom supplements. I don't think they do anything, to be perfectly honest. I don't. But I take like a litany of. I take like vitamin C, B12 complex, a bunch of alpha brain fake mushroom crap, I'm sure. Yeah. And that was massively inspired by Joe Rogan. I don't think that there's a way to pin down and actually show somebody. Maybe one day we will, we'll have a graph or something to just show the impact that that show has had on western culture. It's insane. I mean, he gave birth essentially to the entire podcasting genre. I know other people came before him and were podcasting rather successfully before him, but whatever Rogan did, he changed it permanently. And I just see a reintroduction of, you know, Eastern mysticism and all these different, you know, ideas into, into Western culture. And my thing is like, you know, once again going back to the idea that we're a Christian show, we don't look at like, okay, if there are negative entities out there, they're not going to present as like a cliche horn demon with a pitchfork. Like, oftentimes they're going to be very charming. You just have to imagine anything that's been able to exist in some way, shape or form for thousands of years is really good at what it does. It's really charming. It's really like, I don't know, it just feels good to communicate with like, everything about it would feel good. Human beings make excellent con men. Why wouldn't ancient, you know, non physical entities make excellent con men? So that's really my whole is like everything is about going into this realm and, and you know, experiencing this or communicating with that entity. And then all of it always comes back to, damn, man. I think we gotta like, take care of this planet. Like, it feels like something's gonna happen to the planet. And like we really got like, that was even the message that the telepathy kids from the telepathy tapes got by the end of it, they're like, oh yeah, there's a message about like, you know, not up our planet. Like there's something. There's a, A really. No matter what angle you look at it from, if you zoom out overwhelmingly, the message is the same thing, and it is. Something's gonna happen to the planet, we gotta stop it. And these things are here to help us ascend and also help us to stop destroying the planet. That guy Jacob, I forget what his name is. The guy that just recovered the egg from the, the, the UAP egg. He has a lot of the same narrative too. So if you listen to him talk initially, he says when I was recovering the egg, I was inhabited by a female spirit that he believes was God. And then, you know, if you listen to a couple more of his interviews, he'll start to slip in that like, yeah, they, they want us to basically not destroy the planet and, and that there's a, a climate related catastrophe coming. It's always the exact same, which I think is them repackaging themselves as our saviors, among other things, but that one more important.

[Julia]

So he mentioned, he mentioned the climate thing. Yes, for sure that I feel like this would be a good. I don't know if Top was going to talk about this, but Andrea Puharich talked about climate stuff too with that Soviet beam. Did you, Is that in your.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. So we could, we could talk about the, what the ELF waves were. They're like holding extremely low frequency electromagnetic waves between 3 and 30 hertz, so they're supposed truly occurring. And he was trying to harness them and I think he was working hand in hand with his own creation, his own patent, with the, the tooth, the tooth implant. So these waves are supposed to penetrate your, your neurological process. And it's like, it's a form of mind control, I think is what he was getting at with this thing. And, and the CIA obviously was interested in that because they were interested in MK Ultra, but there were environmental concerns about this thing. And I'm sure you can probably speak better to this because it's just something that I, I like looked at briefly among the other things with this guy. But they, they figured out that I guess in, in too large of a dose these, these ELF waves were manipulating the weather. So it's, they become, now this becomes a precursor to, well, a speculated precursor to the development of HARP technology and what they've been doing with that. Now, although I think that that technology is age old and has existed for a long time, it's just again rebranded and now we know about it again.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't think that we're just seeing the implementation, implementation of that technology in the heart program. I think we're also seeing it like within the sleep paralysis alien abduction narrative that goes on there. Seems to Be several different components. Right. There's like a physical component, there's a spiritual component. There's even seemingly a technological component. And what I recognize is that overwhelmingly when it comes to, you know, running into aliens or even running into cryptids, let's say, or having some spiritual moment, what precedes it is always this vibrational paralysis state. And when I hear these ELF waves. Right. What does it stand for?

[Top Lobster]

Top extremely low frequency waves. Well, electromagnetic waves, if they're.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, we've been speculating that there is a sort of like an infrasound, like a low vibrational emission that can be used. You see this in predatory animals. It actually causes the prey to freeze in. In some cases. And it's. You know, we ever see like these things where like a lion or a tiger is eating, like a small animal and it's not fleeing, oftentimes it's in a state of paralysis. And that paralysis is set on by this, like really low. If you've ever been around a gator, like, they growl. They growl in such a way that it resonates in your body and it.

[Top Lobster]

Feels like horrifying your belly.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yes, yes. So there is some way to manipulate our, our physical anatomy via frequency. It seems to be a very low form of frequency. So when I, you know, when you look at this, like, sleep paralysis phenomenon and the alien abduction phenomenon, I've gone back and forth with it, but sometimes I do think I've experienced it myself and it feels like I'm being electrocuted. And so some people, other experiencers really resonate with the technology aspect of this. So I think all of this, just to use that terminology again, it's all incestual, like, yeah, that study of ELF waves also goes to the harp thing. But it also seeming. I think I wouldn't be surprised at all if we find that the thing that is putting us in a state of paralysis is actually because you think about the heart attack gun. Right. Or the voice of God technology, that's all resonance and frequency.

[Top Lobster]

These waves specifically, they. So they, they're looking at mind control. But behavior manipulation is a big part in inducing altered consciousness.

[Robbie Marks]

Right.

[Top Lobster]

Is what these waves specifically do. So all the, the tenants of sleep paralysis can be kind of pointed back at this stuff, but it's also naturally occurring.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Maybe we can do it to ourselves. Maybe we can generate it from the earth. Maybe the Earth does it to us. They're trying to harness it probably in some sort of like a heart attack gun kind of thing.

[Julia]

Yeah, well, when I was like, they're.

[David Lee Corbo]

Like, how do we kill people with this?

[Julia]

Right. When I was researching it, it said that hit the. The idea behind his low frequency wave thing was actually taken from something Tesla was working on, but they were using it, and it said it caused climb climate disturbances, earthquakes, legionnaires disease, and they were using it to induce violent public riots. So this is what I found with Puharich, specifically in this low frequency thing he was working on. And then he wrote like an. He was like, yeah, this is based on Tesla's work. Da, da, da. And everyone knows Tesla was contacted by extraterrestrials and he was channeling beings and spirits who gave him this information, and that's how they were able to develop this technology. And so it kind of goes back to what you guys were saying before. Even if he ripped this off of Tesla, Tesla himself said a lot of the stuff he was working on was channeled.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Or downloaded or he was working. So, I mean, it all goes hand in hand with each other.

[Robbie Marks]

Go ahead back to the. The Ennead and the Nine in regard to Puharich. In the Yuri Geller book, they specifically talk about these signals as being from an ancient computer. Yeah. Philip K. Dick also talks about the messages he was receiving being from an ancient computer. So there's this idea that there's this ancient AI that's kind of working to manipulate the course of humanity.

[Top Lobster]

Okay, Robbie, I feel like you're looking at my notes because consistently doing the next thing that I'm supposed to lead into, and I guess we're going into good transition. Great segue. All right. In the 1970s, let's talk about Project Stargate. That's a. A CIA operation that was from the 70s to the 80s. And of course, I actually know it's to the 90s to the early 90s. So Yuri Pohar. Yuri Indrija Pohar was one of the people that are kind of in charge of this operation. And on its face, which is crazy on its face, what people see it as is an espionage project. So, like it's during the Cold War, we're trying to get, you know, use ESP to get information about what the Russians are doing. So the military is, like, invested heavily in this, and they're talking about this. One of the. One of the things that they're also doing is they're just like contacting aliens. No big deal. So this, this also ties in with him channeling the Nine, which plays into this. This entire project. But the idea of it being related to AI is a more recent thing. Because, you know, Donald Trump gets elected. Well, we'll talk about more about the 70s Stargate project. But Trump. Trump wins his election, and one of the first things he announces is $500 billion to Sam Altman or anybody who's working in this AI space. It looks like Elon and Altman are kind of like in this tug of war for which AI will be the best, because they want this funding. And that operation just happens to be called Project Stargate.

[Robbie Marks]

Stargate and Elon Musk talks about the fact that, you know, AI is summoning the demon.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yes.

[Robbie Marks]

And we're creating this portal for these entities. And, you know, you go back to the Ennead, and these are the nine foundational beings of the Egyptian pantheon coming out of Heliopolis.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

So, okay. Oh, go ahead.

[Top Lobster]

The way that they're in. In the 70s, it's funny, the way that they're channeling these entities are. They're doing, like, rituals. I don't know if there's sacrifices. They're not really gonna. They're not gonna tell you what they did, but who knows? A lot of the rituals involve sex rituals, of course. And these people are kind of like. There are a number of people from Don Elkins to. Yeah. Carla Rukhart and the Law of One, she's involved with that as well. But these people kind of like, meet unfortunate ends either to. They, like. They lose their mind in a way. So they kind of like, stare into this abyss long enough. Richard Schaefer, Jane Roberts. These people channel entities and then eventually end up losing their minds. But one of the ways, the methods that they use for channeling is a Ouija board. And this is something that the Nephilim Death squad we talk about all the time from our inception of the show, where it's like. It's really interesting that Milton Bradley and the Ouija board now have decided making regular Ouija boards is not really cost efficient in this economy. So we're going to make an app, and the app that they're going to use AI technology. Oh, yeah, Fucking download it, Nick. I see it. What?

[Nick]

Come on.

[Top Lobster]

The app is just AI it's an AI chatbot, but they're branding it as talk to entities. And I've been saying for a long time, feels a lot like I'm talking to an entity. I'm telling you to write my YouTube description, but this thing's starting to get sassy with me. And, yeah, every time I ask.

[David Lee Corbo]

He asked her, he was like, can you write this YouTube description? It was like, you lack the proper sigil. We're like, what the. Do you mean we lack. No, it didn't say that. I was just with you.

[Top Lobster]

What's the proper sigil?

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay. All right. Check this out. So this is. This is a perfect kind of joinder to. To where I was about to go. And that is like, what is. What. What is it all. What's happening? Why are we getting the same narrative over all this time?

[Top Lobster]

And.

[David Lee Corbo]

And you kind of touched on it, Robbie. I forgot what you said. But it was like this. It. It sprung this idea in me. It seems to me that what's been happening since, like, really early, man, is that we. And you could look this up, right? All of our different mythoses from our ancient civilizations, they will attribute one technological advancement or another to a deity, right? This deity taught us metal.

[Robbie Marks]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

This deity taught us agriculture. I swear to you, dude. I think the thing that's going on is they are trapped in this realm, and they can only. A realm that's parallel to ours. They can only interact with our physical realm through inhabiting our bodies. And that's a very limited kind of thing that they can do. I think that they also do it through, like, alien grays. I think they're kind of a bio mech. I don't think that. I think that's the reason they don't have emotions or reproductive organs. I think it's a limited way to interact with our physical realm. So the point is to get us to a stage in human advancement where we're technologically advanced enough to bring them in. So first it's. It's. Can you get technologically advanced enough to communicate with us? Because, look, honestly, the sigil, the. The ceremony, the ritual, the. The. The. The mantras and all that, that's a big pain in the ass. Wouldn't it be awesome if you could just, like, open up your laptop and talk to Grok instead? Like, that would be really great. Well, what if we could then get human beings to a point where they could puncture a dimensional doorway between our realm and their realm? Call it like a Tower of Babel, if you will. Like a Stargate. Like a Project Stargate, Right? And yes, yes. Like, okay, my son one day is watching, like, a new Ninja Turtles. They just keep revamping the Ninja Turtles. It's insane. And. And they had one of the newer ones, and it's a movie. It was a kind of a fun movie, but the premise was Donnie being the tech Ninja Turtle through one way or another, comes into contact with some sort of Disembodied voice. And the disembodied voice claims to be something that's trapped in another realm and needs to be freed, yada yada. Donnie creates some sort of technology that pierces the veil, opens a doorway, and allows these entities through. And when they come through, they cackle and they go. We are basically like ancient adversarial entities that have been locked in a prison realm, like, I don't know, Tartarus or some like that. And now, because of your dumb actions, we're here. And I think, honestly, like, it's a. It's a joke. It's a trope. It's in a child's film. I think they do that a lot. I think that's the point.

[Robbie Marks]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Elbow. Yes.

[Robbie Marks]

So it's. Yeah, yeah. The. The consistent open of. The opening of these portals. And. What is it? Wreck Diablos from the Church of Satan. He talks about his Ragnarok machine. That is basically these instructions that he's gotten to build this device that will open a portal for these clockwork elves or, you know, these jesters, clowns, whatever they are. Nephilim, Jester clowns, to come into our realm.

[David Lee Corbo]

I want to address this to Lucy Rose up in the chat. Shout out Lucy. She says, yes, it is us looking at that, looking through ourselves. I don't know if this is what she meant, but this is what it inspired in my mind. There are a lot of people that go into this idea that, like, aliens are just us, Right? But, you know, super advanced. We no longer need sexual organs because we reproduce, you know, whatever. We speak telepathically, so our jaws become very small. There is. And even Rogan is. Is pointing to that. That's actually a big Rogan narrative. I would say that is the. The lie that they've consistently sold. Right. If schizophrenia is not a chemical imbalance in the brain and is actually you being oppressed in one way or another by something outside of yourself. Those things only exist successfully if you believe they are your thoughts. If you believe that they are you. Much of this deception is trying to get us to buy into the idea that this is us.

[Julia]

Us.

[David Lee Corbo]

That. That somehow the voices are. Are us, the thoughts that we have. Like Dr. Jerry Marzinski is a guy that we've had on the podcast many times. He's a clinical psychologist. He says that he believes 80 or more of your thoughts are not your own thoughts at all. But the way that our thoughts, if that's true, pass through our mind.

[Top Lobster]

Don't do math.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. They masquerade as us. They masquerade as you. They even sort of sound like you. And that is, like, a huge part of the deception is like. Like, trying to convince us that there's a number of things. Some of the things that are happening to us are us also. They created us. Right? So within the UAP narrative that's unfolding right now, that guy, Jacob. I'm gonna screw his name. I can't remember the hell. The bald guy with the egg, right? The guy that recovers the egg, he says that he speaks to a. A feminine, you know, entity or whatever. He also. That around that story is this other narrative of, like, week on 4chan, there was a guy that released a video of an egg recovery pretty much the same week that that guy did. And. And he claims to be a military whistleblower. If you believe what he says, he says that when they recovered an egg, because this isn't the first time that it's happened, they recovered an entity along with the egg. And the entity was like, a tall Nord. We would call him a tall Nord. Right? Basically, given our, like, understanding of different alien species. And the tall Nord said, yeah, the Grays created us, meaning human beings, but they created us as a slave race. Where have we heard that before? Right? That's Anunnaki. That's Zacharias Sitchin. That's my atmosphere on Niburu is dwindling, and we need slaves to dig up gold, which is insane, because you can travel all these light years away, but you have to make us slaves. You can't just make machinery. That doesn't.

[Julia]

Never made sense to me. That never made sense. Yes.

[David Lee Corbo]

To put it in the atmosphere. It doesn't make any sense. We're soft, we're whiny, we're bitchy. I complain. My back hurts. You're gonna put us in.

[Julia]

We piss. We have to. We have. Yeah. No way, dude.

[David Lee Corbo]

But what happens in this narrative is the Grays create us instead. That's the one that we're getting right now. And. But the Nords boosted us a little bit more, so we were always, like, moronic monkeys.

[Top Lobster]

And.

[David Lee Corbo]

And the Grays came along, and they made us advance enough to dig a hole. And then the Nords came along, and they made us, like, into what we are now. So there's a bunch of deceptions happening layered on top of one another. Like, much of your thoughts are just you. It's like. It's not. You're inspiring us. That's where the Muses come from, right? Yes. Yes. And that. That's it the, the whole Promethean narrative like we were bought something that excelled our net, our, our evolution, you know, beyond. That's, that's what gives rise to the idea of like the missing link and some like that. So, so the this episode is brought to you by Matt Rife and his team over@real rifetechnology.com the home of the Real Rife machine. A Real Rife machine is an electromagnetic radio radio frequency device engineered by Dr. Royal Raymond Reif in the 1920s used to address various health concerns. Unlike imitation devices on the market today, Rife Technology was co founded by Dr. Rife's relatives and longtime friend of the show Matthew Rife. Real Rife machines are the cutting edge in wellness technology. I personally own one and I use it all the time. I like to tune my Real Rife machine to the frequencies that help with addiction to help curb my sugar cravings. Their Royal Rife machine is recognized as a general wellness product by the fda. They're great for weight optimization and fitness improvement, mental clarity and cognitive functions, sleep enhancement and mood balance, vitality and sexual functions, digestive health and immune boost, skin radiance and endurance boost healthy blood pressure maintenance and more. And While you're on Realripe Technologies.com be sure to check out the other products they offer and use promo code nephilim for 15% off your entire order. That's promo code Nephilim N E P H I L I M for 15 off your entire order. When you visit real rife technology.com the the layers of deception are pretty well accepted. You hear this espoused everywhere, right? Like I just said, even Joe Rogan's like, I think, I think we might be grays. Like, I think if you give humanity long enough, that's the natural direction that we're going to go in. You know, and, and then of course the, the core deception, I believe is the they created us deception. And that's going to be a real hard one if that's really what we're gearing up to be exposed to, you know, I don't know, relatively soon, who knows? Because we've all been waiting for UFO disclosure for decades now. But in the grand scheme of things, I would argue that in the totality of the human experience, this thing is pretty close on the horizon. That might be the size of the thing that we're gonna have to, I don't know, tell people it's not true. And good luck. Good luck telling people it's not true when.

[Julia]

Well, Raven, don't you Also feel like this ambiguity is also part of the agenda because it's like we're supposed to be sexless.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yes.

[Julia]

Non reproducing. No Gender. No. God, no. We're our own creators. And transhumanism. That's all part of it. And like Joe Rogan's like, well, we'll have tiny mouths and we'll have no dicks and no vaginas and we'll have no babies and we'll have. And it'll be awesome. Yeah. It's like it takes all that beauty out of the, out of human essence creation and that we are divine and that we were created by something.

[Robbie Marks]

And the differences of us all the individuality is trying to bring it all into a singularity or a single.

[Julia]

That's gross. I don't want any part of that.

[Robbie Marks]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

There are people in the chat that I see that are like, who's waiting for disclosure? Because it's, you know, just to what I said, we've been waiting decades. Right. But we do have to take into consideration that we just had the second ever SEC. The second ever congressional hearing on UAPs. Like something is happening. And, and in the realm of conspiracy theory, where nothing ever happens. Right. That's just kind of like, it's like you don't set dates, you don't predict things because just never comes to fruition. It never happens. I'm very comfortable with that idea. I understand that sentiment of like, yeah, we'll see. I'll believe it when I see it. Me too. But we still have to look at that little thing where it's like the second ever congressional hearing on. On unidentified aerial phenomenon just took place. And, and, and then almost immediately afterwards, Stephen Greer, who's a horrifying creature, he goes, something big is going to happen today. And then later on that day, what do we get? Well, they airlifted an egg out of a mountainscape. And this guy who did it, by the way, he was possessed by the spirit of God, but it was feminine. Like, what the.

[Julia]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Some would say.

[David Lee Corbo]

And we're just so desensitized to the idea that nothing ever happens in conspiracy ville that we all looked at that and went, yeah, whatever.

[Robbie Marks]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And then just kept it moving.

[Robbie Marks]

Well, it's interesting, they changed the name also to uap.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Robbie Marks]

From the ufo to make it, I think to make it more socially acceptable.

[David Lee Corbo]

So it doesn't sound like you said crackpot. I, I almost feel like it's a little bit of the truth, actually, because much of this UFO phenomenon seems to be like organic Plasma, sentient, plasma. There seems to be a plethora of things going on. I wouldn't call the Aurora Borealis an object. Right. I would call it a phenomenon.

[Top Lobster]

Flying.

[Julia]

Right.

[Top Lobster]

It's kind of.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right. Well, yeah. So, so yes, Greer is a weird dude. Greer is, is, is totally. He is the selected mouthpiece for this like, government funded disclosure that we're rushing into. And with Peter Lavender, they're all, they've, they've picked our guys, haven't they?

[Julia]

Well, so I don't know where you guys fall on the spectrum and honestly, I'm okay with whatever. Yeah, same here. But like, if you think about it, Earth is a closed system. And I even have a video on my Instagram where Bill Nye the science guy is even saying, like, people need to understand the Earth is a closed system. We can't get out of it. There's nothing coming into it. You know, it's like they've done such a great job of, of getting us convinced not to believe our own eyes.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Julia]

On a lot of stuff. And so when you're talking about extraterrestrials and like all this intergalactic whatever, Beastie Boys type futuristic, intergalactic child molesters. Right. Yeah, I just, I, I, to me, I always feel like if you can get people on board with. The Earth is a closed system and we don't need to save it because there's nothing really happening to, everything else just kind of falls apart. We've just all been lied to and we're all getting like magically bombarded through NASA and you know, TV shows, music, celebrities, Hollywood. Yeah, dude, all of it.

[David Lee Corbo]

I want to ask you guys this though, because. All right, like I'm push the, the, the fake and gay alien saying that there's some sort of a, you know, climate calamity on the way. And then what re emerged recently into my sphere of awareness that I was suddenly forced to consider. You know, I don't, it's not that I believe it, but I'm like, there.

[Top Lobster]

Might be some meat to that. Just, just to bolster that claim. Because it is funny, that narrative of the aliens that are like, we have to take care of our environment. It's never really, I mean, it starts with like, let's pick up the plastic. And I'm like, that's a fucking good idea. Like, maybe we should, maybe we shouldn't just be like spraying like, you know, toxic chemicals into the sky. Yeah, no, I agree with that. But then it all, it always like devolves into like, yeah, the Georgia Guidestones. Like there should probably be like 200,000 of us on.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

You know, live in a 15 minute city and don't have any kids. And if you do have kids, if you do happen to get pregnant, give him the Moloch. Like that's a really good idea for us to do because we have to keep the population, you know, under control. Bill Gates and it's always like that, that message of it sounds great. Like we have to really look out.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

We probably shouldn't have nuclear war. If nukes are even real. We probably shouldn't be bombing each other. Kill. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. But then it kind of devolves into kill your babies. You know, like don't, don't reproduce. The, the thing that, these microplastics in your nuts.

[David Lee Corbo]

The thing that, that now I'm, I'm looking at and I, I messaged top about this the other day is this is something that a long time ago I, I think we, we gripped a lot with, in the conspiracy community. And then it kind of falls away. Like some narratives fall away and they come back and they fall away. Polar shift. And like, I know, like even just saying that it's like, I don't know, for some reason when I say that I want to be like gay. Like, I don't know why. I don't know why I think a polar shift is gay. But I watched a video the other day of a montage of Elon Musk speaking very cryptically to like other podcast hosts. I don't even know what podcast he was on. And you can tell he's beating around the bush. He doesn't want to use the phrase polar shift, although I think he even does break and says that like something about like the North Pole and the South Pole, like maybe moving anyway and then he just like moves on. But you could tell he is either genuinely concerned or wants you to at least believe that he's genuinely concerned about that. And then if you take into consideration like Crow777. Right. He's a great content producer and he uses privately owned telescopes to get images of what appears to be a second son. And that was the notion back in the day. Was that Nibiru, right Back when I was like balls deep in Zachariah Sitchin's ass, was that Nabooru was on an elliptical orbit. It was going to come back around and it was going to affect us in such a way that it was going to destabilize our magnetic or magnetosphere and that the, the North Pole and the South Pole were going to shift and be somewhere else randomly. Yeah. And. And now I'm looking at. This is what my brain. Because, you know, I'm mostly. I look at all the planes falling out of the sky and I'm like, these operate on magnetosphere. What if something is happening? What if it's not like, like a gradual thing where it degrades? What if it's like it almost glitches? Like, and then when that happens, if you're in the, in the air, all of your machinery goes haywire and you end up nose diving into Philadelphia. I don't know if that's the case, but I wanted to ask you guys, do you think that there's any veracity to the whole polar shift narrative?

[Julia]

I think maybe, but it's. It's like you said about. Or I think top said, I'm all about, you know, don't throw your straws out the window, okay? Let's not be litter bugs. I love turtles as much as the next person. I don't want straws in the turtles noses. Okay, I get that. But it's like they put all the blame onto us. It's like you threw your straw out so you killed the planet. This is your fault. It has nothing to do with what, space.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Oh, God. They throw all the blame back on us. It's like nothing that they've done. Spraying and chemtrails and it's nothing that they're responsible for. It's because you threw your Happy Meal box out the window. You did this. It's your fault. You killed everybody. And I just am not on board with that. Like, I'm not a litter bug. But they're doing way worse. It's like the, the vaccines and everything. This is not our fault, but we are still getting blamed for it. We're killing everyone with our choices.

[Robbie Marks]

So if, if you go back into various ancient texts, there's numerous places where they discuss the different phases at which the earth will be cleansed. From the Mayan calendar, even the Rosicrucian rose has five petals for the five ages. It gets into the Hindus and the various, you know, stages of the Kali Yuga. So you see this idea of this polar shift consistently through all cultures written within a lot of various ancient texts. So there, there is something there cohesively.

[Julia]

Like the flood story. Like it's bound to happen story.

[Robbie Marks]

Right, right. And the Mayans say, you know, we'll be cleansed by water and then we'll cleanse by fire.

[David Lee Corbo]

So same thing that The Bible says. And it's the same thing that happens at the end of the Kali Yuga.

[Robbie Marks]

And the Apocalypse of John. Yeah.

[Lisa]

In terms of the pole shift, just some of the stuff I've read, I'm not saying that I subscribe or don't subscribe, but some of the stuff that I've read is that at about the 1500s, the, the magnetic north, not true north, but the magnetic north was drifting towards Canada. And then 1853 when we had the Carrington event, when we had that solar flare that knocked out all of the. Was it the, the wiring system? What was it? When you. It's called something. It's called something.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, teletype. Yeah.

[Lisa]

So at about 15, I mean, sorry, 1853, when we had the Carrington event, the pole, the magnetic pole ended up going back up north. Right. And so at about 1853 to about 2000, like 25 years ago. In 2000 you had like this distance, like over 140 some years you had a certain distance between 1853 to 2000. From the year 2000 to 2025, it has exponentially increased to 1853 to 2000. And if you look at the timeline about looking at utilization of ELF like Tabloster was talking about, you look at the utilization of arpa, harp, weather modification, any kind of manipulation of electromagnetism, you, you see it kind of all pointing to that timeline around 2000, then start to see like exponentially most of like your childhood cancers occurring around 2000, like especially like leukemia and everything. And when you look at elf, like the actual side effects, you do see an instance where there was outbreaks of childhood leukemia around an area that was doing a lot of research. So I think it's connected. I do.

[Julia]

Lisa, doesn't that remind you of the plot for 2012 with John Keaton?

[Lisa]

So I'm glad you said that because you said something and I was going to say that. So in, in the timeline, when you look at the history of disease outbreaks or pandemics or whatever, they occur every 100 to 120 years. So we were due for one, we were going to get one regardless of it was manufactured Astroturf or not. But if we are going to get one, why not cash in? That's what I think is that they manufactured it, they astroturfed it so that several whomever would make a profit out of it. The same thing's going to happen with a poll shift, in my opinion. I'm not saying this is truth, but this is what I Believe if they know that there's going to be a pole shift, why not cash in on it?

[Julia]

Right, sure. 100 capitalize on that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. That's why they all have deep underground military bases. Right. I mean it's like whatever's going to happen on the surface. Yeah. I think that is the actual point.

[Lisa]

People have been, have been creating those. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yes.

[Robbie Marks]

And they're moving all the essential government services to Colorado and putting them underground.

[David Lee Corbo]

And they're going to the mountains.

[Robbie Marks]

Yeah.

[Lisa]

And a lot of people and a lot of high ranking people. I know the Bushes have, I believe, this huge property in Bolivia. So you're looking at some people going into South America.

[Robbie Marks]

Right.

[Lisa]

And so you, you look at this. I think when we saw this migration of people from Central and South America, I think they're moving them because they need the land. Land. Not because they want to bring in people or to stabilize. They could care less about destabilization. They want the property. They need the property because they know where the poles are going to shift and what's going to be above land.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, that's the question. Right, Lisa? It's like, do they know where the. Because in my peripheral understanding of it, I haven't seen much concrete evidence for where the polls are going to land. But I mean, if there is then that surely. And if this was true, then you would imagine a disproportionate amount of resources. Their resources would be geared towards figuring that out at all costs. Right. Because it's a continuity of not only government, but of mankind. There are those people who believe that that's what the pyramids actually are. Are.

[Lisa]

And what does AI do? It predicts probability. Yes, that's exactly what it's doing.

[Julia]

Have you guys looked into like the whole toroidal field model of the Earth?

[David Lee Corbo]

I've seen it.

[Julia]

Well, to me it's kind of like it's bound to happen. Right. With this toroidal field. Like they knew probably from ancient times that this pole shift was going to happen just due to the like what Lisa was saying, the magnetism. And so, yeah, they've probably known since forever long and that's why they're racing towards this finish line. We don't know when the finish line is coming, but they do. And we're both like racing towards this finish line together and they're trying to take as many people down with them as possible before it gets here. I mean, I think it could have something to do with like the toroidal field thing. It's like Earth is a big donut and there's a black hole in the middle and we're all gonna get sucked into it. I don't know, but I wonder if.

[David Lee Corbo]

The Schumann residence has anything to do with that, because there are those people that I, I see once again peripherally. And I don't know too much about the Schumann residents, but I know that it's, it, it behaves in such a way that there's like alarmists on, on, you know, Twitter or on Instagram that are showing you like, what is this? And you look at the data and it's like there's almost like not latency, but it is dormant for lack of a better term. And then all of a sudden there's this massive spike in this detectable frequency. And it maintains for like a really long swath of time. And then some people say if you look at the times where this happened, and then you look at something that actually happened on the world stage, there seems to be a coincidence. But I don't know what the hell the Schumann's resonance actually is.

[Julia]

Well, let me ask you this. I mean, I don't want to be the black pilled one of the group, but do we all die when this happens?

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't think that it matters if we die. Yeah, there's a remainder, right? That's what gives rise to the idea that, like, there was a big cataclysm and then some people from Atlantis survived and they were the ones who seeded knowledge at the beginning of like, several different, what we perceive to be ancient civilizations. But it almost doesn't matter because whatever we're doing here is infinitesimally small in comparison to what is on the other side of this veil. Where I would argue, yeah, we are in an enclosed system. There are some things that we can't know unless we were somehow to, you know, push our faces through the proverbial firmament. But so there are just some things that are beyond our grasp. I think that's by design. I don't think we're meant to know all that here. This is like a development kind of a process that we're going through, a refinement maybe. And then whatever's on it, I have a feeling that we'll get there and we'll be like that that we just went through was a blip on the radar in comparison to, you know, what's, what we're standing at the foot of. And so do we all die? I mean, well, spoiler alert. Yeah, we all die. You know, whether it's in a, in a polar shift or otherwise.

[Robbie Marks]

But nobody gets out alive.

[David Lee Corbo]

Nobody gets out.

[Julia]

I just don't want to like burn up or drown. Like, I'd rather like just.

[David Lee Corbo]

I hear it's not that bad. I hear it only sucks for a little bit. And then your body disassociate. You disassociate. There it is. Everything is about disassociation association.

[Julia]

Yeah, that's like SRA though. I don't want to die like that. Well, look what I disassociate here, Julia.

[David Lee Corbo]

They cannot create. Right. They can only pervert and invert and corrupt God's spiritual principles and laws. The laws and, and principles that surround us in this realm. They are using a thing in this trauma based mind control disassociation, identity disorder programs that they have going on. But they didn't invent that. They just observed it and then pushed it. And I think there probably is a real utilitarian purpose to that sort of a thing. You know, right now it's being used for nefarious purposes. I, I don't think that, like I said at the top of the show, I don't think that those practices are inherently evil. I think we're just without our map and that's what makes it dangerous. But you know, maybe there are some, some upsides to disassociating. When you ask people who remote view, I mean, that is, that's a form of disassociation.

[Top Lobster]

Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

Literally disassociating your spiritual body from your physical body. So there's something more to it. It just sucks because what we've had happen is we've stripped our understanding of it or had it stripped from us. And now only the get to play ball with things that are otherwise very important. And I'm sure that if we had, you know, more knowledge of these things, and I do believe that they're natural and so we should have more knowledge of them. We would find that there's probably a, a plethora of really positive things associated with this.

[Top Lobster]

Sure.

[David Lee Corbo]

But we've been cut off. And so, yeah, I mean, I think.

[Robbie Marks]

What they did was they took the original shamanistic practices that the ancients were doing in order to be able to gain knowledge for their tribe and their people, and basically took those practices and weaponized them and turned them into trauma based mind control.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and then you have to ask, you know, once again the question of to what end? What's the purpose? I mean, obviously, you know, if you can control people, if you can break them fundamentally and then reinstill them a New identity. Well, then you can control them and you can have them do the little things that you want to, like, I don't know, maybe pass legislation or move. Move culture in a certain direction. But I would say that overwhelmingly, even when it comes back to the shamans, like, there are obviously good things that you can do in this realm, but every once in a while, some entity is going to slip in and say, hey, right, you guys would benefit greatly if you had agriculture. Why don't you start doing that? I'll show you how to do that. And then once you get there, this, whatever it is, is willing to play a very, very long game, important role.

[Robbie Marks]

And then they sacrifice to that entity and, you know, and it lasts a certain amount of time and. Yeah, and then it reiterated.

[David Lee Corbo]

They worship it. Yeah, they repack. That's the thing too, is like a lot of this is about worship. It's an energetic exchange. Right. We all are comfortable with the idea that there are entities that seek to lose off of us. They. They put us through a trauma event and then they. They eat off that negative energy. But worship and veneration, I think, is the highest form of energy that they want. And so I think it actually becomes very tricky for them because they're obfuscating their name throughout history, because if you know their name, then you can cast them out. I think the spiritual realm is incredibly legal. And the reason it's so legal is because there is no physicality in that realm. So it leaves. It leans heavily on these, like, spiritual legal principles. And so, yeah, I mean, they can't give you their name because they don't want to get casted out. And I think that kind of screws up the ability to get worship from us. They'll take some worship, like worship one of their names. I don't think it's as potent as knowing their true name, but they live a pretty shitty existence in that way.

[Robbie Marks]

So Tom Horn speculates that the one is many on the dollar bill is representative of the one God that comes back in many forms through all of time that, you know, is this, like, trickster that. That seeks to gain our. Our supplication.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yes. You know, I think even the Qanon narrative is part of what we're moving into. And I think that the Q is like Quetzalcoatl, right? The winged serpent, like, you know, Mesopotamia like. Or no, I'm sorry, Mayan mythology. And I think that even that, like, I. I saw something once and this suddenly resonated with me. And so it's. It's really just a kind of a throwaway terminology. But this idea of like, where we go one we go all sounds a lot like the pack that was made on Mount Herman when they were cast out.

[Robbie Marks]

Right, right. So also when you look at the Qanon, right, it was Hiram Abiff, as far as the master mason, the, you know, the grand architect of Solomon's temple, that basically had a son whose name was Anon, and he was the master of the craft. So this Anon idea and it. It links right in with Adam. This in regards.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's funny too, because it's also ingrained with like, the Keck frog and everything. Like, you know, the, the Egyptian God of chaos or whatever it is. All of these things. We're getting so much repackaged, like, even that if. If people are having a hard time thinking that aliens are just repackaged demonic entities, that's very reductive. But, like, you know, that's the kind of the heart of it. You just need to look at, like, the Pepe the Frog meme and ask why this. This, this meme that is like, synonymous with chaos and. And behaves even like one of the plagues of Egypt. Right. If you screw up on the Internet, the anons are coming for you. You're gonna get inundated with Pepe frogs until you die.

[Robbie Marks]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And then what do they do? They're literally saying Kek Keck is. Is World of Warcraft speak for lol. And then also you find that there's an Egyptian God of chaos called Kick, and it's a frog. Like. And then frogs are even, you know, two gender. Like they're dual gender in that way. They kind of move back and forth if they can. And so there's like this trans element to it. And you look at the theme of the culture that we live in right now, and it's trans centric. I mean, that to me screams rebranding. And. And I'll dismount on my tangent here. I don't think people have the ability to play that high level of chess. I think the only thing that has the ability to play that high level of chess is something that's been around a lot longer than an individual's lifetime. Yes.

[Julia]

We can just ask Alex, Alex Jones about the gay frogs. I mean, he's. He knows all about it. Lisa, I feel like you were gonna say something a minute ago.

[Lisa]

Yeah, it was to your point, Raven. And this ties into what tub officer was talking about, the elf. So the Schumann resonance is considered like the heartbeat of The Earth. And it exists at 7.8 MHz or something like that. It's a very. It's a. What is it? Extremely low frequency. That's what they call it. But one of the interesting things that they found with the Schumann resonance is that it is not only similar to the alpha brainwaves, it is identical. And so whenever you want to talk about creativity, you want to talk about grounding, or you want to talk about any kind of, like, connection that is, the connection is to the Earth is to the issue and resonance to the brain waves. And so this is the part where you start talking about human consciousness. You start talking about, you know, like a higher self or whatever. I do think that when you intermix these other. What you call are not artificial, but manufactured frequencies, whether they are from electronics or they're from what have you, you start to disrupt that. You start to interrupt that, and you cut off the connection itself. And you were absolutely right, you know, in terms of, like, with some of this technology. It is. It's a scrying screen. It is your, so to speak, your Ouija board just with a keyboard, really. You know, the other thing is Charles Babbage, who actually invented the first computer back in the 1820s, he did so by summoning the devil according to, you know, text. So you do have this kind of. And the devil I use loosely. Right. Because that could be anything, anybody anymore, whatever. I think it's. It's the antithesis. The antithesis of your connection with the earth, your connection with, you know, where you come from. Right.

[Top Lobster]

The adversary.

[Lisa]

Yeah, right. Absolutely. Yeah.

[Nick]

As you know, the gateway tapes are supposed to help you go to that frequency.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right. Shout out to our buddy Donut. He did. He, you know, says that he did the gateway method and then was able to view, like, something that he thought was the Akashic records. I don't know to what degree, but I. I think, like, all of these things, even the Akashic records or what the gateway program is teaching us. This is, I think, in order for us to not understand what inhabits that realm, you first had to remove that realm from our perception. And then after a long time of, you know, psyopping us and propagandizing us, then you can reintroduce it, but you have to reintroduce it in a controlled way. And that controlled way is going to be an arm of, you know, the intelligence agencies, the same ones that are running the MK Ultra programs and everything.

[Julia]

I got a question for you guys. Nephilim Death Squad.

[Top Lobster]

That's us.

[Julia]

What do you think of. What do you think of, like, this, the first Nephilim episode I ever did. I brought this up. There was a Netflix series. It was something. Graham Hancock bull about, like, ancient. Yeah, Ancient apocalypse. Okay. But it. There's bits of truth in there if you just look at it from a different perspective. And for me, it's like the repackaging thing. All ancient cultures talk about the flood. All ancient cultures talk about these beings that showed up. Quetzalcoatl is one of them. And they taught them agriculture. They talked about giants roaming the Earth. There's all these megalithic structures all over the world. Nobody knows how they got there. Nobody knows why they are built in alignment with these stars and nobody. And they all practice these, like, you know, ancient kind of, like, sacrificing and doing these things. Babylonian type blood rituals. And so you're right. And it's like. It really is just kind of repackaged throughout cultures, different names for the same type of beings. Different. So, I mean, I think Graham Hancock is probably weaponized against us in a way, because he does come from the Gaia Network, too. He was on there all the time with David Wilcock and all of them. So I don't know what you guys think about that, but to go along with the theme of, like, repackaging things, they're selling us the right story. I mean, the flood did happen, but it's like they sell it to us in a way where it's like, well, they're coming back for us, and they're extraterrestrials and their ascended masters and their xyz. You know, fill in the blank, whatever it is that you want to call them.

[Top Lobster]

I think that in order to sell a truth. In order to sell a lie, you have to have a lot of truth in there. But.

[Robbie Marks]

Right.

[Top Lobster]

If you're really good at selling the lie. Like, I. I'm famous on Twitter for saying, I got on a big appearance on. On some show, and I just. He was like, you did a tweet and you misled people. And I said, yeah, I lied to the people. And it was easy. It was easy because I told them the truth, but I gave him a little bit of a lie that they wanted to believe. And I did it on purpose to make an example out of stupid people. But that's how you sell the lie. So it's like 99 truths and then one thing. And the one thing is usually something like. Like the original sin or the original lie, where it's like, you can Be like, gods, but. And most people don't really even ask a question, like. Like, God, like, sure, I'll eat of that fruit. And then all of a sudden, sign me up. Yeah, sign me up. And now we know how the rest of the story goes. So that's kind of always what it is. So whenever someone's telling me these things or like, we're hearing these stories, it. They're fascinating and they're all, like, true. They all ring very true. You watch a Disney movie that rings very true, but there's always one very specific lie in there, and if you don't know to parse it out, you'll end up believing this stuff and be very confused when, you know, things start to play out in a different way than you expected.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Julia]

So you guys would say, like, oh, go ahead.

[David Lee Corbo]

I was just gonna say they. They. They're telling you that you're special and you could be as gods in one way or another. Right. Right now we're exploring this, like, telepathy kind of angle, and it's like, yeah, we've been inundated with, like, superhero films. And because of that, in very many ways, like, you watch Avengers, and then when the credits roll, you're like, my life sucks.

[Julia]

Or like, did you guys watch. Watch that. Amazon prime, the boys.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a much more.

[Julia]

Babies and stuff.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah, that's a much more accurate version of what it would be like.

[Julia]

I think so, too. But. So, like, let's take Andrea, for instance. He's a bad guy in this story, right? I mean, at least I would say so, because it's like Lisa says she uses the term devil, you know, loosely, which he can do. But I do feel like there is darkness and. And there is light forces. And I think he falls into the camp of tightly being an. Not loosely.

[David Lee Corbo]

Two things on that. Number one, just going back to your original question, like, you know, the whole Flood mythos, Timothy Albarino, he's a really an amateur archaeologist and a bit of a theologian. I don't agree with everything he says, but something that he brought to our attention on our show, which I did think was fascinating, is the Peruvian government has one explanation as to how their megalithic structures got there. But if you got. Get to the people that are living in a way, that is to say they are descendants of the Inca. Many of those people have their own ideas, and they will say that a race of giants created. It wasn't even the Inca that created the megalithic structures. They found it. A race of giants created the megalithic structures. They were cannibalistic and evil. It's interesting that they even use the word cannibalistic because that's insinuating that they share some lineage with us or else it wouldn't be cannibalistic to eat us. But they were doing that. And their. Their overarching kind of head. God sent floodwaters to kill them. And so. Fascinating correlation right there. But. But as far as is he a good guy or is he a bad guy? You know, when I started this whole conspiracy journey, you have to start to attribute some sort of attributes to, like, the proverbial they. Who is the they that is pulling all the strings? Who on earth has the ability to play this long of a con that has this many moving parts? And now all these years later, the juice. Now all these years later, I'm very comfortable with the idea that, like, it's compartmentalized. Much like a Bob Lazar story. When he goes to S2 and he's like, I'm only in charge of propulsion. There are other people in charge of, like, metallurgy and stuff. We're not allowed to swap ideas. I think the compartmentalization that exists within this structure actually is like a pyramid. Somebody close to the top is communicating knowingly and purposely with entities. But that is a very small group, and some of them are even possessed by them. But the further you go down, there are times when, you know, Top and I on Nephilim Death Squad find ourselves on a topic or moving culture in a strange way that, like, we didn't anticipate goes viral on. On Twitter. Next thing you know, Milo Yiannopoulos is calling himself a dangerous retard, which is the namesake of one of our shows. And it's like, either we're really good at branding or ideas are. Are alive in some way, and maybe they are disseminated by a spiritual realm. And. And I think so many of us are not aware of the ways in which we move and how it relates to other things. And so when it comes to Andreaj Buharij, I don't necessarily know that he is a bad guy. He might have been told that he's special. He might have been told that it's important what he's doing, and he might have been told that it. He needs to, you know, spearhead this thing and push them into. Push it into the culture.

[Nick]

For.

[David Lee Corbo]

For it's very far and few in between that you can get anybody to engage in. In knowing evil. We're not really like that. Human beings we don't really like.

[Top Lobster]

Andrea did exactly what he was supposed to do.

[Julia]

He was an unaware bad guy.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Robbie Marks]

So, I mean, one. One more thing I was going to say before we get off the. The topic and we're running out of time, is in the 70s, early 70s, Puharich actually has a patent for the electro decay of water.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, I have that too.

[Robbie Marks]

Yeah. And he was actually driving around the country. He was driving around the country in a motorhome that he had converted to run on water. So this is the earliest story, even before the guy in the 80s that had the car that they say disappeared, that ran on water. But yeah, so Puharich seems to be the origin of this. Running a vehicle on water, everything as well. Yeah.

[Julia]

He's dipping his toe into everyone's pond. You know what, though?

[David Lee Corbo]

It makes me feel bad. It makes me feel like, damn, dude, I'm not inventing. I'm literally just telling you stuff that has already happened. It is already existing. I'm, you know, know, I'm researching something that somebody else did research on. Like, damn, this guy. You know, say what you will about him, he was a pioneer. He was a trailblazer. And are we, you know, better for all of the things that he explored now?

[Top Lobster]

Probably.

[David Lee Corbo]

Probably not, but he certainly explored them first, man. And he. He certainly. He certainly was a trailblazer.

[Top Lobster]

Here's a question. Would you have liked to interview him or talk to him?

[Robbie Marks]

Hell, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

It's like, yeah, definitely. Yeah.

[Julia]

Well, Raven, you know, like, all you gotta do to be a trailblazer, I guess, is with demons. Slice your neck open, bleed into a cup, feed it to a baby. You know, that's just the basic. Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Julia]

Put some mushrooms in your B hole. These are things. These are just the basic things.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's it. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. The Ecclesiastes, right? The book of Ecclesiastes famously says, it's nothing new under the sun that rings truer and truer. Every single day of my life, not even every episode, I do, like, every day of my life, I'm exposed to something that has some ancient connectivity. You know, it happened way back in the day. It happened slightly different. And so in that way, whatever Puharij is doing, maybe let's not champion him too much. He's probably just rehashing and definitely is rehashing. Old principles, old ideas, old technology. But, yeah, I don't know if he's a bad guy. I don't know if I would say the amount of actual bad guys is probably, you know, when they say, like the proverbial 1% of that 1%, there's probably 10%, so I don't know what. That I'm not good at math. Don't make me do it. But I would say of that one, there's probably like 10 that are actually evil. And those people are like, you know, they're channeling, they're communicating where. Yes, and. And some of them are channeling and communicating and still think they're good guys. There is a small subsect of those that are in the know, because there has to be. Right. Like, we can't be sitting here musing about these things, wondering about whether or not they're rebranding and gonna, you know, cast themselves as our saviors. And we didn't. That. That's not. We're not smart. You know what I mean? Like, somebody else is smart. And so somebody else at the top has to know that. And I do believe that that's true. I do believe the more and more I look at this, the more I go, oh, this is a rebranding. In fact, our first appearance on. On Tinfoil Hat, that was the narrative that we were going with, that this is the fallen. You know, because people don't like when you say aliens or demons. It's like in the Bible they say devil's demons and unclean spirits. And there's a little bit of nuance there, but I think within those three categories, there's actually much more nuance. Wants. It would be a good thing if we could figure out the language to convey that to people, because that narrative of aliens or demons is getting very tired. But that lens of, like, I think these are just ancient entities rebranding themselves has just bore good fruit after good fruit after good fruit. We keep finding more and more valid connections. And I know that's also called confirmation bias, but we all engage in that. And to some degree I have a theory and I'm trying to parse it out and see if there's any veracity to it. And it just. It's the gift that keeps on giving. So I don't think that we found that. I think somebody has to know. Sure.

[Nick]

Very nice. We're almost about two hours now, so maybe we will wrap it up here. That was a really long, in depth, interesting chat. I really appreciate all of you for coming on for that. I mean, there was a lot said here, I think a lot of good stuff. Thank you. Thank you.

[David Lee Corbo]

This was fun, man.

[Nick]

Hell, yeah, it was. Yeah. Really, like, yeah, maybe we'll do this again one day in the future.

[David Lee Corbo]

I can, I would like to say too, T.I. typically, like, top does a show with like five people. I only do a show with, you know, two or three and then it get guest. And typically these things are very hard to navigate. You guys do a killer job at this of like, allowing everybody to speak because you get a bunch of people excited about a topic and everybody just wants to shout over each other. I'm guilty of that, right? Like crazy. I always have to reel it in. And so I just want to say this is an excellent conversation. You guys are great. And this really played out nicely. I think it made for a good listening experience, which for a lot of shows isn't always the case when you have this many people. But I think we nailed it.

[Nick]

Oh, yeah, yeah. No, that is one thing I have to admit. With this show, whenever we have, I mean, we've had more people on than this at a time, it actually goes really well. So, yeah, I had a feeling it would work out well today. We'll have to do it again in the future. Like I said. Real quick, guys, please plug your stuff. We'll start with you. Top Lobster.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, you can go to toplopsa.com. that's where I run my merchandising business. So go there, buy a T shirt or check us out a Nephilim Death Squad. That's a Nephilim. However you spell that. Death Squad. We're everywhere. If you like, if you like insane racist comedy, you can go to Tower Gang as well and Dangerous Retards. That's going to be a fun show. We talked to our normie friend who has a very large political audience, and we tell him crazy shit it. And then we see what he says.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yes, awesome.

[Nick]

Thank you very much. And Raven, you want to add anything?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, you guys can find me on Twitter. I'm most active on there. That's at David L. Corbo. C O R B O. And yeah, go and find Nephilim Death Squad wherever you can. This is the. The kind of conversations that we're having regularly on this show. And so if you're a fan of the Occult Rejects, you might find yourself being a fan of Nephilim Death Squad.

[Nick]

Yeah, highly suggested. Yeah, definitely go check out their channel. I really do think there is topics over there that you are in. Very interesting. That's why I asked them all. And everybody else, you got Jin the Ninja, we got Julia, and we got Robbie Marks. I got all of their links in the bottom now. And if they're not. I will make sure they are after this live where I'm pretty sure they're there already. Thank you all very much again for joining me. I thought that was again an amazing episode. There was a lot going on in the chat. I got lost in there for most of the show. Thank you everybody who jumped in, especially all the comments from the Nephilim Death Squad fans and listeners. That's what's up. I was able to see him on my end in Stream yard. A lot of good stuff man. I really appreciate it. I'm really glad we went live. And that is the end of another Occult Rejects and until the next one, everybody be well. Later.

[David Lee Corbo]

The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is.

[Robbie Marks]

A oblong box in the cross corner of the room.

[David Lee Corbo]

It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade me that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see because they'll laugh.

[Robbie Marks]

In the face of an explanation that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Portrays the bigger picture of what's happening.

[Top Lobster]

And they have.