
In this episode of Nephilim Death Squad, we continue our in-depth Bible study through The Book of Daniel with special guest Matt Hepner of The Standard Coffee. From questions on pre-Adamites and the Dead Sea Scrolls to the prophetic visions in Daniel...
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Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
We are being hypnotized by people like this. News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely.
Top Lobster
Oh yeah, dude, they should ne.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It's like we all know what's going.
Matt
Down, but no one's saying what happens.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
To the home of the brave.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
They control this now when no one's talking about it and it's finally slaves and everybody's just walking around heading the closet.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Want to wake up to a dead in the grave.
Matt
But then it's too late.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
We need to be ready to raise up. Welcome to the end of day. Everybody is slave. Only some are aware that the government releasing poison.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Conspiracy. They're a cult.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, they're straight Bible. They're not like, oh, we're this that denomination.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, we're starting the show.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Shut up, Matt, please, guys. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Net. Why is he not.
Top Lobster
TV's not on. Oh, all right. It's fine.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's from Death Squad. I am Daily Corbeau, AKA the Raven. That is top lobs and the father of disinformation. And we're back, baby, with the Bible study. Do we have to do any plugs? I know Matt doesn't like when we do plugs because there's no plugs.
Top Lobster
Well, Matt was late today, so it doesn't matter.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
We're gonna do there.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
One hour late, guys. Patreon.com forward/nephilim. That's where you can you fix the TV? This one's not on either. What have we been doing for the past hour? Not setting up the studio, guys.
Top Lobster
This is a lot of pressure.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Patreon.com forward/nephilim death Squad. You can go there and support the show. This show is going to continue going live for its entire, you know, stretch. But if you're looking, if you go, wow, this is Great. How do I support these guys? That's where you want to go. There's all kinds of stuff. Discount codes off of merchandise from toplobster.com. there' also. I just talked to Alex of the joke joint. We are starting to get set up for Bohemian Grove 4, and we're also going to be having.
Top Lobster
Sorry, Matt.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
The VIP experience. Can you not drink on the show right now?
Top Lobster
We do an air horn.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Are we definitely doing number four?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
This is gonna be number four. And we're gonna be doing the VIP experience at Matt's. What? What happened?
Top Lobster
Matt's TV keeps turning off you.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I think he keeps hitting the button.
Top Lobster
Oh, you might be leaning back.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, you're leaning on the thing plugs. Ah, geez, Matt, come on.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Forward a little bit.
Top Lobster
That's all right, guys.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
We're gonna be doing the VIP experience for day one at the standard coffee shop, and we planned it before Matt ever agreed to it, but Matt has agreed to it since then, and it's gonna be awesome.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
When is it?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Oh, right now. Tentatively. The first week of March. That's what I'm putting out there. The first week of March. Ten. Tentatively. Tentatively.
Top Lobster
Okay.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Tentatively. Anyway, guys, we're gonna get into the continuation of the Book of Daniel Part 3. We don't know where we left off. We had a.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Who know where we left off?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, Top seems to think we left off at chapter.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
There's a lot. There's a lot of overlap. So if you thought we were in 10 and 11, we can pull some of that into it.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Okay, well, we finished with Darius and Darius.
Top Lobster
Right.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Pretty base.
Top Lobster
We didn't get to the. The messenger Angel. This is. We're gonna end at that, I guess, today if we do another two chapters.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
All right. Okay. No, I mean, it's up to you, because I know how you are about. Oh, we got to cut it short. The podcast can't go too long.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, there was a couple things we said we were going to do. First, there's some questions that came from the Patreon people asking Matt questions you said you wanted to start with.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, I like that.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah. So if you're on the Patreon.
Top Lobster
Sorry, I don't know what's going on with your graphics.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Wow.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Dude just ruined it. It's ruined.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
No, it's not. Okay, Matt, express how you feel.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Just mess with it while we're talking, because you're usually better tinkering with stuff.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, well, he could just have a fire TV logo.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
That's fine.
Top Lobster
The passive aggressiveness of.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Of he is very passive.
Top Lobster
Is insane. Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Okay. I don't like the way you're sitting.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I wasn't gonna say I feel very comfortable.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Nice. So one of the perks of being on Patreon is that you can ask Matt questions. That's right. We force you to pay.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Wait, what are the questions?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I don't know. He's gonna pull them up right now. He's gonna tell you what the questions are, and then we'll get into the Book of Daniel.
Top Lobster
Oh, there's 28. I don't think we could do all.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Whoa. 20.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
We could do one. We could do like, one or two. Wow. One.
Top Lobster
One or two.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Wait, but we're sure that we ended on seven. We. We finished with Daniel and the lions, then with six, and then the four beasts coming up out of the sea with seven. Now we're rolling into eight.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yes, but let's start. Let's get some questions. Let's. Let's see and. And say who. Who sent him? Because I'm sure they like this thing.
Top Lobster
I'm just gonna turn off.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, just keep ting. Pretend it's your.
Top Lobster
I can't do it. Okay. Yeah, I'll spin my fidget. Dave's not here. Man says, does Matt understand that when he noted that the modern NFP system doesn't set us up for a 24. 7 Christian discipleship, that some are thirsty for regular discussion on that? I don't know what this even means.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
What does that even mean?
Top Lobster
What's the modern nfp?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I don't know.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I think he means not for profit. Oh, the 501C3 that you.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
You have a great disdain for.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay, so what's the question now?
Top Lobster
Some are thirsty for regular discussion on that. So I guess he wants you to talk more.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
He likes it about, not for.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
What would.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Wow.
Top Lobster
What would be his ballpark figure? For a person to start their own standard coffee and Christian library?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
How much? One question or three?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Still one question. This is taking advantage.
Top Lobster
He pays extra.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
He does. He pays.
Top Lobster
So I guess there's two questions.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay. Nfp, that's just straight Bible. That's just like. You're just. Read the Book of Acts, read the epistles, read what Jesus taught. Study Jesus life.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Okay, okay, Just.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Just talk. Let's just pull up. How many times did Jesus ask people for money?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
A lot, right? He was like, constantly.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, and when he did, he was saying, take your money and give it to the poor. He was never saying, like, give it to my ministry.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Right.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No record of Paul saying, take your money. And give it to my ministry. There's no record of that. There's Paul saying, take up a collection, get the money ready, because I'm going to Jerusalem and I want to take money to the poor in Jerusalem.
Top Lobster
I think this guy is just worded the question improperly. It sounds aggressive, but what he's saying is. Feels more like a compliment. Does he understand that people really want to hear about that?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, no, I'm cool. Were you offended by it? I don't know. That was a good question. I was offended, but I just want to make this point. Paul, if you remember, before he gets converted, he's killing and holding the coats for the people who kill Stephen. He's hailing men and women out of their homes and taking them off to jail that believe in Christ. So remember, those orphans and widows in Jerusalem were from the hand of Paul. So just take that into account when you hear him asking for money to take to the poor at Jerusalem, he's making amends. He's doing the best he can. Some of us, like, I. I think I told you guys before, like, there was a lot of people who. I got hooked on drugs that I wish I would have never did that.
Top Lobster
Sure.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
So, like, I have this heart probably till I die, to try to help people who are hooked on drugs. Paul, I bet. I bet he walked with that same kind of, whatever you want to call it, conviction. Yeah, yeah, but it's kind of a. I don't know, it's like this tug on your soul that you kind of owe humanity something. So like, that's completely different from somebody taking money to buy land, build buildings, get a fog machine, get a bunch of music. You gotta have a fog. Let's just go into any of the passages about music in the New Testament. I mean, you. You, if you walked in the modern church, you think 90 of the new Testament's about music.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Sure.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You'd be hard pressed to find five verses about music in the New Testament or, or any. Any connecting music with worship, which I'm not saying you can't use music to worship God. I'm just saying that's like one element that could be used in worship. There's so, like, just type in the word worship to blue letter Bible, see where it pops up all through the scripture. Like none of it's tied to music. So I'm just saying, like, this whole system's corrupt, but we have a very simple system where people can meet in homes. They don't need a ton of money. They really don't need any Money. They can meet in homes and have a Bible and they can study the word of God and they can go back and forth with one another. And so we've just made a money making system.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, yeah, I could see that. I mean, you're doing that, that in your home. You're inviting people over, you're just hanging out, you're just exploring the Bible and having conversations about it. Yeah, it doesn't cost anything.
Top Lobster
I was thinking about where you were saying here. So that's what, Ezekiel 28:13, where they're talking about music a little bit, but they're talking about the King of Tyre.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
But really, is that really what you pulled out for me?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
He was like, I don't like that.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
That's because Lucifer had instruments built inside of him. That's where you're at, bro.
Top Lobster
Yeah, this is, we're using blue letter Bible.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Did you know that's what you were pulling up?
Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
He talks about it all.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Lucifer had musical instruments, like built inside of him.
Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah. So the, the workmanship of thy tablets and of thy pipes was prepared in the, in the, in the day that that was created. That's like musical. It's just something I think about when I used to play music in the, in the church where I was like, this guy's made of music. The devil or Lucifer or whoever, this is the adversary. And it's like, and we're just dabbling in no idea what we're doing.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, but it shouldn't be that way, bro. Like people who know the Lord, that music should be on another level, bro. You're talking about somebody who's getting alone. You can talk to musicians who say that they start jamming like in their band and something takes over them and they start playing and it's not them.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Oh yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
These aren't people that know the Lord. Right. So imagine somebody who knows the Lord and just is playing music alone, like in their home. Imagine what music they're coming up with as they're just pouring their heart out.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Like the Holy Spirit just crushes, like.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, I know. I, I can't, I can't imagine that. It sounds like what we call this so called worship music industry, like that, like that's what God's music sounds like. It just sounds great. And the fact that there's a worship music industry, like what are we talking about?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
So you're saying you don't want to start a Christian rap group who runs.
Top Lobster
The worship music industry? Who runs.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I, I, I was thinking we're gonna, that was on the horizon.
Top Lobster
All right, let's.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Let's keep. Yeah, the dude's right. We should be meeting at homes. It should be much more organic. There should be questions being asked. I'm in one Bible study where we were going into a certain book. Somebody wasn't really getting it. What was going on in this book. We just switched it up, went to another book. Like, how many times does that happen in church where dude's doing some message, he's doing some series, the whole church isn't getting it, and he just keeps going. You know, it's like, there's got to be a way for people to ask questions, and we have to make sure people are getting it and understanding it so that they can do it on their own. Like, that's the whole thing. Apostles, prophets, pastors, evangelists, and teachers are set in the church by God for the equipping of the saints so that the. So that what we would call, like, common people or lay people can do the same stuff. Like, the average pastor today is what. Like, a common church person should be like. Like, a common member of the church should be at that kind of level. But we are like, no, he's the professional. We just go and kind of, like, trust the professional the same way we do with insurance or taxes or finances. You go to the professional, the doctor, right? You go to them, they take care of it. Like, that's what dudes are doing with their soul. And I'm like, that's crazy.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
It is weird.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
That's crazy, man. Like, you. You got to get along with God yourself.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Oh, that's why it's. It's a little bit crazy to me. Like, the whole Catholic system where the Pope is. Is this, like, intermediary. Like, he's like, a step beneath God, and you're supposed to like. I'm like, that doesn't seem right. You shouldn't have to have this guy in between you. And isn't that kind of like how they look at the Pope?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. And then the regular church doesn't, like, say that, but it's. But it's kind of inferred, man. It's kind of like the more you talk to people, that's kind of where a lot of people are at without coming out and saying it.
Top Lobster
That's true.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
There's a. There's a hierarchy on. It's unspoken, and it's not good.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Anyway, the guy left the glacier.
Top Lobster
He asked if they wanted to start their own coffee shop. What did I. I don't know how you go about Doing it.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah. What's the cost? Open a coffee shop. A coffee shop slash Christian library? No. Isn't that specifically what he said?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Well, you start with, you have to get a pile of dollars. This is the way the American system works. You gotta get, like, a bunch of dollars.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
You also gotta get a lot of books, and then you want to have a library.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Were you collecting them for a long time before you opened the library?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. Well, yeah, it was. It's all the stuff I've been reading for years. Like, that's how the library came about, was. I was like, sweetie, if. If I was reading Spurgeon and Alexander White G. Camel Morgan and like, all these dudes for all these years, and they're like. And I'm growing like this, learning from their stuff, like, studying under these guys. Like, this is literally what it is. You don't have to sit under the local pastor. You can sit under great men and women of God who have come before us for hundreds of years now. Like, sweetie, if I'm growing like this from reading these guys stuff, and I'm understanding the scripture so much clearer because of this, like, other people could, too. I just kept all those books. But so say I read three or four Spurgeon books, and I have, like, 200 Spurgeon books in the library. I haven't read all of those, but I know Spurgeon's legit, so I have all Spurgeon stuff. I know Oswald Chambers is legit, so I have all Oswald Chambers stuff. Like, I know Andrew Murray's legit Watchman Knee. Like, go down the list. Leonard Ravenhill. So I know all these dudes are legit. You can trust their stuff. That's who's in the library. But then we just bought a ton of books, and we had some very special people that bought a ton of books or gave us money to get a ton of the books, too. So it was cool. But it was all people that we knew. Now people will come in and sneak trash into the library. Whoa. No, you. You don't.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
You did that.
Top Lobster
I gave him a Gary Wayne. Gary Wayne's Gary Wayne crushes.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, that's different. You had me books. Yeah, that's different from, like, sneaking stuff in, you know?
Top Lobster
Right, right, right. So did you know that Matt sliding in. Did you know that Matt wrote a book?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Matt wrote a book, Bro, this is, like, embarrassing.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
You wrote a book? What was it about?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Say we were going to talk about. Whoa.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That was one of the questions. What book did you write?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It was just some book. It's called about the Book of Life, but it's kind of. I mean, it was so long ago. The only reason it came up is because the lady.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, what's going on?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Because I don't want to be like, oh, I wrote a book.
Top Lobster
If I wrote a book, I'd be like, yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I just kind of wanted to start to keep some kind of, like, where.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Can people find the book?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, it's not like that.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
What do you mean?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I kind of wanted to have, like this signpost or almost like a journal, something to leave behind. It was like 2013. Sure. But I don't. You guys might like it, actually. Well, I mean, I might like it.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Where would I find it? I don't even know where to find it.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I might have one or two in a closet. Wow.
Top Lobster
I'd like to read it. I like to read. All right, let's go.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I've been sliding David Ike books into his library.
Top Lobster
We have to do two questions, so I don't even know.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I like the questions. I'm down to just do questions.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
No, we gotta do the Book of Daniel.
Top Lobster
We have time. We have some time, so. All right, well, we would have had.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
More time if he was here on time.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, he rushes me no matter what time we start.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Dude.
Top Lobster
ML says. I mean, it's 11 o'.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Clock.
Top Lobster
ML says, what Bible does he recommend? Also, what versions of the extra canonical books does he recommend? Enoch, Giants, Jasher, Jubilee, etc.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Canonical books.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Jasher's cool, but it's. I'm like, is it like comic book?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
What about that?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It's so wild. Like, Jasher is so wild. Yeah, yeah, but there's interesting stories wild, though. Yeah, yeah, but I don't know. I think it was Simeon. He, like, let out a roar and it, like, dropped everybody. Yeah, dude. I mean, there's wild. They're like, jump. They're leaping up walls. They're like. I don't think they're 30 or 60ft tall. They're leaving.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
They marched around the walls of Jericho for seven days until they crumbled.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
So I don't know. Those are neat. I don't know. The Maccabees are relevant to, like, even. Especially the study of Daniel.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
What about the. The war scroll?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You know? I don't know anything.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Okay, wait. I want to tell you about this a little bit. What's interesting about it is. So it's found with the Dead Sea Scrolls. It's dated to like 200 to 100 BC and it is a tactical breakdown of the battle in the book of revelations, like when the trumpets sound, which trumpets mean which things, how to organize the soldiers. Like it's this really odd breakdown of the events and it's, it's, it's literally only like a strategic.
Matt
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Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Piece of parchment, I guess something that you would read to understand exactly how this is going to play out. You know, the, the sons of light or the.
Top Lobster
The.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
And then versus what does I have.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
So it's like written in Hebrew. It's found with like Isaiah and Enoch.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
And it is to like what. And it doesn't mean it's. It's super valid, but it is interesting. And it doesn't contradict the Bible in any way, shape or form, but it does bolster it just like maps out the event.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Those books are intriguing to. To be. I mean especially any book like Jasher or Enoch or the book of the giants that are referenced in scripture. That's especially intriguing because it's like the Holy Spirit like kind of validates the book in a way. Whatever, whatever that means. I'm not. It doesn't make it scripture. But if the Holy Spirit like mentions a thing.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well yeah. Any books on time travel, I'm not doing this.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
So that's intriguing. And then knowing what, what the writers of the Bible were familiar with.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
That's intriguing too. But I'd say we have our hands full with the Bible. I would, I would say like let's just study the scripture and like Jasher, I was reading it when I was going to bed.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
So you're saying I read it like.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
When I'm going to bed. I'm not reading it when I'm like locked in.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
It's my very serious bedtime stories.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. Just something to kind of. Huh. This is cool. But I'm not like underlining things. So serious about it.
Top Lobster
That's a good way to look at it. Like because if you read and if you're just straight Bible straight people go to. Then you'll turn on Netflix like to relax. So this like that's like, oh so.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Enoch is his Netflix.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like, that's cool for your free time, but not for your, like, Bible study time.
Top Lobster
Gotcha.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Wow. Yeah. Because you have free time on the earth and it's going to really matter what you do in that free time. And so if you could watch, you.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Wouldn'T do an Enoch study?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No Enoch. I just remember it wasn't that exciting when I read. It was cool. Like, it was kind of intriguing.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Like when he was taking Enoch and he's flying over all these, like, various plots and he's like, bottomless.
Top Lobster
No. In Matt's free time, Matt likes to. He likes to garden, but not wash his hands.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Oh, you guys saw that.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Like, it's like a weird flex. He's like, you guys don't do anything.
Top Lobster
Oh, Benjamin, Owen. Benjamin came here and he had like.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
If you. If you live on a food forest, that's what your hands look like. Yeah.
Top Lobster
But he. He came from. Yeah, I know.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You can scrub them, budaho.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Wow.
Top Lobster
He came from Idaho and then slept.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Right.
Top Lobster
And this is what I.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
This is what I.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
His hands were still stained. His hands will be stained for a little bit.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I was a fabricator, and in any given moment, I could make my hands clean. It's called scrubbing them.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, that's. I guarantee you, you can't scrub this.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
And get it clean and you go under your guarantee.
Top Lobster
David, that's enough from you. We have a question from re hinged. How many hot dogs did Raven actually eat at the party?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Two. Maybe. Maybe two. Yeah, two.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, it was clearly somewhere between 6 and 8.
Top Lobster
And follow up question. And why were you watching another man eat a hot dog?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Because it was kind of like I thought I was in those. Nathan's hot dog competitions. I was like, oh, cool. I've never been to one.
Top Lobster
He was doing two at a time and dipping the bread.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It wasn't like two at one time. It was very fluid. That's why I was intrigued. He was just like, yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
He's like grabbing normal amount of hot dogs.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
He had like the forward assembly line system. Like, he had that. He had a whole system going, talking.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
And what was that stuff your daughter made?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You kept calling it raudo. I call it raudo, but they call it something else.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That was really good. It was really good. I had maybe a couple of food. That's a disrespectful question. And I don't think we should do the questions anymore. Yeah, we should.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Is there any more about Raven?
Top Lobster
Let's see, I'm just gonna skip through flat or globe.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Come on, man.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Straight Bible, if you.
Top Lobster
Straight Bible. I mean, it's an easy answer.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I mean, he sits upon the circle of the earth.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
It's a firmament he show with his handiwork in it.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. The whole. The whole, entire God's whole calendar is set to the moon. I know you guys, like, no, the moon's not real. The whole, the whole calendar is set to the moon cycles. And like, not only that, if you live on a food forest, you're. You're very intentional about moon cycles.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But what's the moon got to do with. Yeah, the moon's there.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It's gravitational pull. So like fruits and vegetables are healthier when you. When the gravitational pulls much.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
It's not gravity.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It's buoyant waves, hunting cycles. It's all tied to the moon. I don't know how you could say, like, all the stuff isn't like.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, well, he just avoided the earth.
Top Lobster
Yeah, he was like the moon.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Well, there's intriguing passages about the pillars of the Earth.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's interesting. Do you believe there's pillars?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I mean, the scripture says there's pillars. It talks about the four pillars of the Earth.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
This guy's crazy.
Top Lobster
It's. Yeah, no, it does say that. It also when they talk about New Jerusalem coming down like this, like weird pillars. So. But, but that was.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
But if New Jerusalem descends out of heaven like a cube and it kind of comes down and it hovers between heaven and Earth, how does that have anything to do with whether the Earth is flat or a sphere?
Top Lobster
Well, because it has stanchions. So it's like. It's going to be like if it's.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
If it's.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
So you are flattered because. I didn't know. I didn't know, bro. You just totally did the argument flat like, that's why it comes down like that.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Jerusalem is 1400 square miles or something like that.
Top Lobster
I'm saying it would, it would make sense if it was flat. The round thing. I've been lied to too much. I don't know at this point.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I respect that.
Top Lobster
All right, we'll ask maybe two more questions. Ask his opinion on whether there were people before Adam and Eve.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Oh, pre Adamites. This is. This could get a little.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I don't want everybody to get mad at me. I don't want to do that.
Top Lobster
No, please. Because I don't.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I Don't. Who's gonna get mad at you?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Well, Adam and Eve don't come onto the scene until I don't want to.
Top Lobster
Do 8, 000 years ago.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
They come on the scene in chapter two. Yeah, okay, sure. God has a very specific conversation with them. It's very. It's very specific. There's an order that takes place. He has this conversation with Adam, and Eve talks with Adam first, obviously. Then he makes Eve. But in between the time where Adam is made and then Eve is made. I don't know if you guys are familiar with this, but he brings forth all the animals.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah. And he's got to, like, name the animals.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
And he's like, so Adam's chilling alone, Then God force. God brings forth the animals and he names them. Yeah. And then says he didn't have a help meat.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Honestly, sounds exhausting. How many animals could you name before you gave up?
Top Lobster
Here's what I'm thinking, and this is a crazy thought, that time is so drastic in length. Like Adam. And then he's, like, bored. And God's like, oh, man, it's been like 500 years. Here's some animals or something. And then he's, like, still bored after.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, no, no, no. He's hanging out with God.
Top Lobster
Yeah, but how long is it?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It doesn't matter. There's a 0% chance he's hanging out with God and he's bored.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Think about calling.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Not even a one.
Top Lobster
So then why he keeps giving him animals? Why do you give him a woman then, bro?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Because this is God's method. Like, this is what God does in the earth. Like, also. Okay, we got. We kind of got off track a little bit. All I was saying was that Adam's made, then the animals. Yeah, Chapter one. Animals are made, then the humans from six. And there's different instructions to them. Pretty sure he tells him to replenish the earth, which is the same thing he said to Noah after the flood. Like, replenish.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Sure.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
So this is a weird thing. We could pull it up.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Who do you think? Who do you think Cain was afraid of?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Another great question. Clearly people outside the Garden of Eden. So which one is the presence of God?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
What do you subscribe to more of the idea that, like, this is. We don't. There's an undisclosed amount of time in between, you know, Kane being born and when he's cast out, and so the world could have been populated by his own descendants.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I don't think. I don't necessarily think that. I think it's clear if you study the timeline that Adam was 6, 000 years ago. All I'm saying is whatever was going on before Adam, who knows how long? Who knows how long? And I think we've talked about it before, and this isn't like super highly, like, offensive to people. The. The so called gap theory. Like, even my guy, G. Campbell Morgan, I mean, I thought this, and then I read G. Kilmen Morgan thought the same thing. I was like, yeah, I think that too. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth, dot, dot, dot. And the earth became without form and void. Yeah, Chuck Missler does a good presentation on that.
Top Lobster
Sure.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
The earth became without form and void.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
So what the hell happened?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Something, something, bro. But there's like this whole angelic race that some people, like your boy Timothy Alvarino would refer to as our. He's not our friend, our elder. Our elder brother race, you know, so there's a. That's an intriguing discussion, but not to mention the passage you already pulled up from Ezekiel. That creature Lucifer got built with like, musical instruments in him, and he was the anointed cherub that covers. And he was close to God. Where our story picks up, he's already a bad guy. So there was a time where he was a good guy.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Chilling.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Something happens. He becomes a bad guy. Yeah. Where our story picks up, he's already a bad guy. So. So not to mention, God existed for the timeless past.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
So like, wait, look at mama Lobster with the heavy input. Here she goes. He did say, let's make man in our image. So obviously other images were made.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Well, that. I mean, that's. People get offended by that passage too, because. Is he talking about us, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, or. He's talking about us. The. He's talking with angels. Yeah. While he's already, you know, he's creating and they're sitting there watching.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
So I don't.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I don't know.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
This is offensive. You think people find this?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Well, no, I just think people get really nasty. If you say there was something before Adam.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Why. Why would that be?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Well, there's a dude I like.
Top Lobster
How about this theory? Let me. Let me just propose a theory.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Go ahead, propose.
Top Lobster
The. The fallen angels are on Earth.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
Before Adam is kept in the Garden of Eden. Whether that's on Earth or whatever, they can see into it and they see that God's making something. They're like, yo, God just made man. And then they try to make, like, other weird stuff.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, no, no. That. So that. He's Lucifer's pissed when he, when he sees Adam being made. Remember that whole passage was Lucifer saying, I'm gonna be like God, I'm. I'm gonna raise up and I'm gonna be higher than God. I'm gonna. I'm gonna be this great proud thing that's like God, he gets cast out and then to your point, he's watching God go to the dirt pile and make something like God. Yeah, he's pissed. Like that's why he hates us. Like, that's my take on it. That's why he watched this whole thing. He wanted to be like God. And here's man from the dirt pile making something like God.
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Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
There's a man in the godhead. Jesus is a man. There's a man in the godhead. And now here's this race of mankind and Jesus is one of us. Like, Satan hates us, bro. He's pissed.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Satan's a.
Top Lobster
So the people that walk the earth before Adam, is that made by God or is that made, you know that like these are the questions.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
We're talking about Genesis 1 where it says, let us make man in our image. And that's a different story from Adam. If it is, then I don't know.
Top Lobster
That that's actually a good point.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
That's whatever it is. That's whatever it is. I don't know. I know some people say, will they dig up the bones of these things called like Neanderthals or something? I don't know. I'm not a scientist, so I don't know. I don't.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
You're saying those are pre Adamites?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I don't know. I don't know. I'm just saying to me, there was definitely something happening. If Adam's 6,000 years ago. God was definitely doing something 6,001 years ago. Like, to me, there's no debate about that. There's no debate about Lucifer being cast out before our story picks up. To me, it's possible that the earth is flooded in Genesis 11:12 because the Spirit of God's hovering upon the water. Right, because that's a possibility.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
What is it? Void and formless.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It came without forming, boy. Which is tohu abohu. You can pull it up in the blue letter Bible, which Jeremiah says. Yeah, I'm butchering the language.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I like it. It's a fun word. Let's go with that.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
But Jeremiah says he didn't create the earth. Tohu bahu. So that's intriguing. Then that means something must have happened for it to become tohu abohu. Are we just going, like, way off in the left field now?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, I mean, we do have questions that we're supposed to field. And then we have to start the.
Top Lobster
Bible without form and without voice.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You see it?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
It's written in Hebrew, so he can't really.
Top Lobster
Let's just. Let's see.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Oh, tohu. Yeah, tohu, or pronounced tohu.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
And then the next word is a boho. Maybe I'm probably butchering it.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I like that.
Top Lobster
That's a fun word.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Tejomi. Tejomi.
Top Lobster
I'm probably doing this wrong.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, you're probably doing it.
Top Lobster
Guys, check out blueletterbible.org if you want to do it correctly.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. Do the word search on that. That word Tohu. And then you. And you look it up, man. And then you, like, everybody's got to come to their own conclusion on this. And, like, it's all good. If you don't.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Pestering Matt.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
If you don't want to come to your own conclusion, that's okay too, man. If you just want to know the Lord and leave some of these things, like, the secret things belong to God, revealed to us. Those belong to us and our children forever. Right? But, like, there's some secret things, and that's okay. But I'm just saying, if I spend my time, like, reading the scripture and then I'm out working on the food forest, I'm probably thinking about these things, and those are the things I think about. But I'm not starting a new denomination that's based on pre atomized. I'm just. That's just my personal.
Top Lobster
Two more questions, Matt. Two more quick ones. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot. But honestly, these people are. Okay. Can and should we take back the rainbow from the LGBTQ movement?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay, I don't even know. Like, what do you mean, take the rainbow back? Like, clearly the LGBTQ movement hijacked. Yeah, but what does that mean, to take it back?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Like, give me that.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, the rainbow belongs to God, bro. So what do you mean? Like, people are gonna Hijack the blessings of God.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
For their own personal gain. Look at Israel when they came out of Egypt, God made sure that the Egyptians gave them all their gold. When they left, they took the gold and made a golden calf.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
This is nothing new. This is nothing new that man takes, like, these blessings from God and hijacks them for evil and wicked things.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, even if we were to be staunch about what it means, it doesn't matter how staunch we are, because it means what it means.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Amen. Yeah, I don't care.
Top Lobster
Okay. Yeah, we're not. We're also not supposed to use, like, idols or symbols and things like that, so I guess don't really worry about it. Although it would be fun to take it back.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But it's like, even when I know what that means. No, we're gonna start making rainbows.
Top Lobster
Like, make a law.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You can't. Yeah, no, I don't. Like, if I had a rainbow in the shop, I'd be like, yeah, let's go. That's the rainbow.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But if people would come in there and be like, it's gay in here.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
That's up to them. That's on them.
Top Lobster
Last question. All right. They want to know. This one's a little disrespectful. What's your blood type?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I'm not doing Nancy.
Top Lobster
No, it's not Nancy. That's somebody else. Mr. Fancy Pants. So the answer is no. No positive.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
No positive. All right, fine. Suspicious. I think that's Nancy.
Top Lobster
They asked me for my blood type, too, and I'm like, absolutely not. Not gonna. Not gonna tell you that.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Why are you staring at the tv? All right, let's get into the Book of Daniel.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
The only thing I like in the comments is when they say mean stuff to the raven.
Top Lobster
It's true, though.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
They say in the comments, conspiracy Q.
Top Lobster
Says, yeah, the rainbow and the word gay are two excellent things. Like, the rainbow means something else. And the word gay means to be happy.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
No, it means, like, like, insanely happy.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Like, elated. Like, ah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I'm just.
Top Lobster
That's so great. I'm. I'm. But I'm at the point in my life where, like, if these people are. If people are going to steal words, like the word libertarian, I thought it had, like, a great connotation to it, but, like, if people are going to use it and make it weird. Yeah, I'm like, then use it. I'm not even gonna use it.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, we're straight. Bible. We use words the way the Bible uses the words.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's it. Yeah. Like tohu a bohu. What is it, baby?
Top Lobster
The Book of Daniel.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Come on, please, Matt.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Chapter eight.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
You've been stalling.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay, the backdrop is. We just finished up 6 and 7. Daniel gets thrown in the lion's den. He's faithful. The reason he gets thrown in the lion's den is because. This is an intriguing thought, too, bro. It's like Daniel. So Daniel was always praying three times a day towards Jerusalem. His prayers were such a threat to the kingdom of darkness, they were such a threat to Satan that he devised a plot to get Daniel thrown in the lion's den. Do you see what I'm saying? Like, they were such a threat that these dudes on the Earth who don't know that they're being puppeteered from the unseen realm, they come to Darius and say, hey, man, anybody who doesn't pray to you for the next 30 days, or whatever it was, we're throwing them in the lion's den. That's how threatening Daniel's life was. That's how threatening his prayers were. They were doing anything they could to stop him from praying.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, they also regarded him as, like, pretty dope considering all his past interactions with the previous kings.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Interpret their dreams and such.
Top Lobster
We had asked Beck Lover about the significance of the directionality of their prayer because Muslims pray towards Mecca, towards the Black Cube. And we're like, well, Daniel opened up his window and prayed towards Jerusalem, towards a specific spot. Is that something that, like.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, they were instructed to do that in the. In the Chronicles. What is it? 2 Chronicles? I don't remember the passage, but I think we talked about it last week that, like, they were instructed to do that when they were taken into captivity because God accounted for them being taken into captivity. And today when this happens, spray pray this way. Yeah. Pray towards Jerusalem. Now, that's not the thing. Today we address that, too. Like, the woman at the well was like, we worship on this mountain. The Jews worship on that mountain. Jesus said, yeah, yeah. None of that's. That doesn't matter anymore. We're not dealing with any of that.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's interesting, though, because if there's a specific direction, I like how Matt's like.
Top Lobster
We already said this, dude.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I just. You guys watch the shows at later here, man. So. No, I guess you're busy.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I'm on the show. I would watch it back if it wasn't. If I wasn't on.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Territories matter, though. That's what we're getting at.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But the direction having mattered at some point is fascinating because it's it, like, makes you kind of go, like, is there a flow?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Well, I think it's kind of like when it comes to communion, Jesus says, do this in memory of me. Like, do this thing in memory of me. Don't talk about it. Don't think about it. Do it. Do this thing in memory of me. There's probably a thing like that, that in the doing of looking to Jerusalem and remembering Jerusalem and not forgetting where you come from and who you are, there's an element of. That would be my guess. But no matter what he told him to do it, that's what he told him to do, and that's why he did it. Which brings us to another thing. I think some people think, like, when it hits the fan, or maybe not even when it hits the fan, but just, like, later in life, they're going to be, like, a real man of God, right? People are like, yeah, no, I have it in my future that I'm going to be, like, serious about the Bible. I'm going to be serious about God. I'm going to be a real man of God. And I just want to tell those people, no, you're not. Like, if you're not doing it now, if you're not cultivating it right now, then, like, when the rubber meets the road, you're not going to do it. You need to be doing it now. Like, Daniel wasn't, like, in a position to, like, put his life at stake in that moment. It was a lifestyle he had already been cultivating. And I think people are living under this delusion of, like, purpose in his heart. Yeah. Yeah. Amen, brother.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
So I remember some stuff.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
They're like, people are like, well, yeah, right now I'm real busy with my 401k and my job, and I got to get the kids to the ball game, and I got to cheer for the ball team on the weekend. I got all this stuff. But, yeah, yeah, someday I'm gonna get serious about God. No, you're not. If you're not gonna do it right now, you're not gonna do it. And so people have to come to terms with that. Like, by the time this decree goes out, it's too late. If Daniel hasn't already cultivated that. You see what I'm saying? All right? And I feel like maybe it's a touchy subject to me, because during coronavirus, I was like, yo, this train's right on time, dude. Like, the. Like, the church is going to stand up right now and be the church and be different from the world.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
The church was like, no, they kind of didn't.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
They kind of crumbled. But then I realized, like, if you hadn't been cultivating that and didn't know from the scriptures that the world is evil and we don't trust the world. We're not part of the world. Right then you weren't ready in that moment. But that. But that's okay. That's okay. That was a little trial run. Thank God that he sends us little trial runs. Man.
Top Lobster
That was a big one.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, so it was a big trial run. So now we can be a little more serious.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
The next one's going to be faking gay aliens. But please, can you read the Bible?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yes.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
All right, thank you.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay. Then we dealt in the next chapter with the four. I love how raven's keeping us on track. I love that. So then in seven, we read how the four beasts came out of the earth, came out of the sea. Sorry. They were four different kingdoms.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Is that an indigestion?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
There were four different kingdoms coming out of the Earth, described as beasts. We talked about how there's a lot of overlap between that and chapter two with the statue, and we're just going to keep having those overlaps.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, it seems like the same kind of thing just given in a bunch of different ways. Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. This is what we're going to read in eight. We're going to learn specifically about two empires, but just told in a different way. Can I say thank you to the guy that got me the things?
Top Lobster
No.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Who was that? Man Brew.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Was that Man Brew? Shout out, Man Brew.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
He's wearing his in ear. Check it out. Man Brew.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Look at him. Look at that.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Appreciate it a lot.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Isn't that nice? Look at how excited he is. You can really tell how big his ears are, though. Can we? All right. Please. I'm gonna stop.
Top Lobster
It's kind of messed up, people. You guys gotta stop.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, he's telling lies about me eating hot dogs. He said I ate six or something.
Top Lobster
I seen at least three.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It was a lot.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Hey, look, it's. He now goes by Return of the Met. That's awesome. All right, all right, all right. So. So. Thank you, Man Brew.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I'm not doing this. Raven is on point today. Blasphosaurus.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
No, I'm just chilling. I just want to hear the story.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
In the third year of the reign at King Belshazzar, a vision unto me. Even unto me, Daniel, after that which appeared unto me at the first. And I saw in a vision. And it came to pass when I saw that. I was at Shushan in the palace, which is in the province of Elam, and I saw in a vision and I was by the river of Ulay.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I got it, I got it. The way things are structured, it's so confusing to me.
Top Lobster
Wait a second. Because I forgot there was a good question that I read.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay.
Top Lobster
That I forgot. Yeah, Back to the questions. They want to know how they should structure a Bible study or start one if they want to do it. Because this guy does like five Bible studies at any given moment.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's the only thing. Like, if I tried to, I would read that what you just read. And then I turned to everybody and if. And if we didn't know what that meant.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I'd be like, okay, so then I would start saying dumb stuff.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. So that's potentially a little sketch of Source Rex. Yeah, you just get a bunch of people that don't know the scripture and then just say, so I'm not against that. I'm not against that. You break open the word of God and then rad stuff can happen. But this is just. We're just back to this thing. You're saying, like, hey, how do we produce fruit? Well, the way to produce fruit is not to go out and like shine up fruit on a tree. The way to produce fruit is to make sure that root is strong. So you have to be reading a Bible. Like, that's the main thing.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Okay.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, you.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But I'm saying, you know, you personally. Yeah, but if I read it, like, like I just read what, like what you just said, I would literally go, what?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Let's go into that John 14 passage where it says, the Holy Spirit will teach you all things and bring all things to your memory. This is what people don't. This is a life changing passage for me.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Sometimes I feel like the Holy Spirit just pats me on the head and goes, it's all right.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
He probably does.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You got it pulled up. It's John 14. Is it 23 or 26? So this is what people don't want to do because people would rather like read a passage and then run to the commentary. And that's just like, you get a.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Guy like Harold Camping, he reads the Bible and he goes, there's a numerical code in it. You know what I mean? Like, that's what I'm. I'm gonna end up doing is I'm trying to read it and I'm gonna do that.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Don't do that. Read a passage and then, and then do this. This is a Life changing passage for me. This changed my life.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Okay.
Top Lobster
Judas saith unto him, no.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
1426. Sorry. Come on. But the comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things and bring all things to your remembrance whatsoever I have said unto you that principle. I just understood that I wasn't going to church. I was just reading a Bible. So I didn't have anybody to explain to me, like, oh, no, no, it doesn't really mean that you have to go to cemetery school to really understand. Nobody told me that. I just read that and I believed it. And then as I started reading the Bible, I started coming across passages that I don't understand and say, all right, God, then what does this mean? And then slowly, I'm not talking about in a week, talking about over like a lot of years now, slowly but surely you start to understand the scripture because it's a living, breathing word of God. Like he is the author. The Holy Spirit is the author. What do you mean? You're just going to ask somebody else, what's the meaning?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, that's. Yeah, that's what it is.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Like if you wrote a book, I want to go to top and say, hey, what did he mean by that? I would go to you and say, bro, what do you mean? Same thing with the Holy Spirit. Like, this is the Holy Spirit's word. So, Lord, you show me what this means, right? And you have to cultivate that and you have to do this for a while and then sit under good teaching for a while. And then, you know, you get to a point where you're very familiar with scripture and you can start to discuss it with people.
Top Lobster
This is what Pastor Rick preached on last night. 501C3 Corporation. But he did preach on. Yes, he did, yes.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Oh, because it was Wednesday. Okay, okay.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
So they're saying, how do you start a Bible study? Start with you. That's the number one thing. Start with you cultivating that intimacy with Christ, that intimacy with the Bible itself. And then let the Lord be God, man. Like the Bible studies that I'm in or any Bible say I'm in. It's just, it's been brought about by God. It's not like I ran out and put out flyers that said, come hear the plan of God from the man of God. Like, I didn't do that. I didn't do that. I just like lived. I just like went to work and then I just like worked on the food forest.
Top Lobster
You saw somebody with this specific T shirt ask the question. Yeah, there you go.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. So, you know, you're in a Bible study, like, let the Lord. Let the Lord guide your life. I know everybody likes to say that, but they don't. Like, I don't know. That's the reality of a relationship with the Lord, man. It's like, let him guide your life and let the chips fall where they may, and you'll find yourself in a Bible study. Now, if you already have a group, just kind of like, read that passage over and over and kind of ask the Lord, what does he mean by this? You know, like what. Like, what is he? What exactly is being said here? And just get a group together and just make sure the group isn't too big. That'd be my number one advice. People put Bible studies together and then just turns into playtime, you know?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah. It's like a long table with, like.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. You got 20 people. Two are having this conversation over here. Three are having this conversation. A couple people come in late with their chick fil a food, and all of a sudden it's like, not even. Like, everybody's going different directions.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
Also, they're reading questions from Patreon. I think a discussion on discernment is also needed when we're talking about that, because I don't know if you're gonna. Like. Like, if someone says, oh, I'm listening to the Holy Spirit, it's like, well, then you better be sure that what you're hearing or listening to is what you should be. It's not just some. Something else. But, like, I guess as you become more familiar with what that voice sounds like, these things become more obvious and it's a little bit easier to move in the direction that you're supposed to move into. Yeah. At least from my experience. But let's.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Can we read the Bible?
Top Lobster
Can we read the Bible?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
All right, so verse three. Then I lifted up my eyes and saw. And behold, there stood before the river a ram, which had two horns. And the two horns were high, but one was higher than the other. And the higher came up last. I saw the ram pushing westward and northward and southward so that no beast might stand before him. Neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand. But he did according to his will and became great. And as I was considering, he did.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
According to his will. Like the ram's will.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Okay.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
He did whatever he wanted.
Top Lobster
Okay.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
And as I was considering, behold, a he goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth and touched not the ground. And the goat had a Notable horn between his eyes. And he came to the ram that had two horns which I had seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power. And I saw him come close under the ram, and he was moved with rage against him and smote the ram and broke his two horns. And there was no power in the ram to stand before him. And he cast him down to the ground and stamped upon him. And there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand. Therefore the he goat waxed very great, and when he was strong, the great horn was broken, and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Dog, what does it mean to wax very great?
Top Lobster
What does any of that mean?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Oh, yeah, this is. This is a passage that gives us the interpretation, so we don't have to guess. That's the nice thing. If you keep reading, we get the interpretation busing. So if somebody says, like, oh, yeah, verse five, that's talking about America because it came from the west and it didn't touch the ground, it seems like.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
It is talking about nations.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Like it was flying. It was an airplane. It's like. Okay, this passage tells us who that is.
Top Lobster
Okay.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay, you want me to say who it is now or do you want to just like.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
No, I want to read.
Top Lobster
You want to, or do you want to just be wrong for a little while.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
So that he. So he has the context while it's going?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Okay, that could help.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay, this is just like what we read in the chapter two. Statue, right? Gold, silver, brass, iron.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
We're talking about the same nations, right? Because it's the same thing. So what is it? Medo Persian. What is it? Roman is the. Is the.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Hold on, hold on. These ones are specifically, the first one is Medo Persian.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, I thought it was. Babylon was the head and the Medo Persian was the shoulders.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Amen. Amen. I'm just saying this one.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Oh, oh, okay.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
This one, the first ram is Medo Persian. So Babylon's out of the picture already.
Top Lobster
Right?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Okay.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Rome hasn't technically come on the scene yet with these two. With these two. The ram and the goat. Right?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Right.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
The next one that comes after the Medo Persian empire is Greece. Okay.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
And you can. You can study this out. So just keep that in mind. It's. It's the Medes and Persians is the first one, and then it gets clobbered by Greece.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Okay? So Greece is one of the rams and. And the other one, Medo Persian, is the.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Greece is the second one, and that's.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
The one that's like flying just came.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Powerful, just, like, showed up and just like.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, okay.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Crushing, therefore, the he goat wax very great. And when he was strong, the great horn was broken, for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven. And out of one of them came forth a little horn which waxed exceeding great toward the south and toward the east and toward the pleasant land. And it waxed great even to the host of heaven. And it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground and stamped upon them. Yeah. He magnified himself even to the prince of the host. And by him the daily sacrifice was taken away in the place of his sanctuary, was cast down, and a host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression. And it cast down the truth to the ground, and it practiced and prospered. Okay, man. Okay. So here's all I'm saying. Historically, this took place. Daniel says it ahead of time. But historically, this is exactly what happened with the Medes and Persians. Greece came and destroyed them. That one notable horn from Greece, historically is Alexander the Great. This happened. He died. Four notable horns came up. Those were his four generals that took over after him. Right. So history has already borne witness to this. So. So it already shows this, then, as the story goes, which. This isn't my specialty. Like, I'd say my specialty is more of, like, pulling from this story. This is kind of my specialty, I think, with everything in the Bible is like, pull from the story so that I have the lens to look at the day that I live in. Like. Like, if this. Like, if this is what's going on in the scripture, surely this pattern doesn't change. The patterns never, ever seem to ever change. The patterns are always the same. The geographic locations and the players and the people, that kind of changes. But, like, this stuff that you learn in the scripture, you have to be able to take this and then use that as a lens to, like, observe the day that you live in. Do you see what I'm saying?
Top Lobster
That's exactly what we do with the show. But we said, like, you know, the show is current events under a biblical lens, and it makes it make a lot more sense.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
That's what I'm saying.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Z Man says, respectfully, how the F is anybody supposed to get that out of that story? But if. If you realize it's like the same Z Man crushes.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
He's awesome. You're not. You're not supposed to. That's a. That's a great question. Like, I, like, I didn't get that. To be totally fair, I didn't get that from the Holy Spirit. Right. I've just watched enough things. I watch a lot of Bible studies. I read a lot of Bible stuff, and I don't know history at all. But I've read historians that have traced this and said, yeah, this is what happened. And so if there's any historians out there that say, oh, no, that's not what happened. Okay, all right, that's fine. Again, my thing is, like, how do I apply this to the day that I live in? Would be an awfully strange coincidence if Greece did exactly that. When the scripture says, this is the Medes and the Persians and this is Greece. Yeah. And history of Greece is exactly that.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Right.
Top Lobster
How do we wax greed?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
How does one wax green?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I want to start King James. It's King James, man.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Wax. But that's another thing that he waxed.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
But here's the thing I want to pull out of this. This dude in verse 10, it waxed great even to the host of heaven, and it cast down some of the hosts and of the stars to the ground and stamped upon them.
Top Lobster
Is that like he's bragging at them?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Oh, I don't know if this is a dude that, like, bowed up to the spirit realm. I don't know. Is that like, you get, you get, you. You get these characters. Nimrod. You get some of these dudes who, like, I don't know, they bow up to the spirit realm. I don't know. That's an intriguing statement.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
And it casts down some of the hosts and of the stars to the ground. So that means this earthly ruler was more powerful than some of these.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But that's crazy.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
But if he's being. If he's being stood up by a power that's greater than those in the unseen realm. That's how he would kind of have this power. Anyway, there's something going on between the scene and the unseen realm.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
If you look at the pan.
Top Lobster
I've been watching a lot of ancient aliens.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
Okay.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
And when they're talking about, do you.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Think that's all right?
Top Lobster
Listen, they're talking.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
As long as you're a. I love their stories, I love their research. I love the stuff that they show. And as long as you're like, okay, yeah, it's through a biblical lens. Thank you for the research.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
No, no, listen, aliens.
Top Lobster
If it's a 30 minute episode, 25 minutes of the episode is fantastic. Then the five minutes, they're like, ancient Astronaut theorists.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That is just showing you evidence. And then it's like when they tell you what they think it means, they.
Top Lobster
Always think it's like some gods that were pretty cool or alien. And I'm just like, but it is.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I mean, alien means extraterrestrial, means they're not from the Earth. So in a certain sense, it's like, yeah, it is. These entities not from the Earth.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Aliens are gay.
Top Lobster
They get goofy with it. They'll. They'll. They'll be like. And that's why aliens created human beings. Ancient astronaut theorists surmise.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But you gotta watch ancient angels. But the.
Top Lobster
The truth is. Yes, shout out to Brian. But the truth is that, like, when they're talking about Nefertiti and King Tut, like, these dudes had like. Like crazy elongated heads looking like aliens. And they were. They were like gods among men among that. That's why they were the rulers of Egypt. So when you're talking about these leaders that were waxing, great, they're just waxing.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Whatever that means waxing.
Top Lobster
And they're throwing down other. Other angels from heaven.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
If.
Top Lobster
I'm just saying if. If this dude was an alien kind of dude.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, think about the Egyptian pants.
Top Lobster
They'd be doing that.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay. I think historically, people don't think it's an alien. They think it's Antiochus Epiphanies is the guy. Like, there's a dude. There's a dude that did this. That he exactly fulfilled all of this stuff.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
What changed about the pantheons after him?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I don't know. All right, whatever. I don't know. But Anyway, in verse 12, here's another thing I'd like to pull out of it.
Top Lobster
I just had the camera up on Matt the whole time.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
He's just like, no, I was trying not to do that.
Top Lobster
No.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
But anyway, it cast down to the truth, to the ground. I just think that's the thing we have to be very aware of. Like, even Jesus, when he's Talking to Matthew 24, a lot of people key in on where he said. They say, man, when will these things be? He says, man, there's gonna be wars, rumors of wars, pestilence, famine, earthquakes, and bizarre places and stuff. But the first thing he says is, let no man deceive you.
Top Lobster
What does this mean, though? And. And host was given to him against the daily sacrifice.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I think maybe he had an army that came against Jerusalem where the daily sacrifice was happening. Antiochus Epiphanies did like. Like, here's the weird thing. And so that's what it's talking about, like, he come and he came and destroyed that, desecrated the temple. I think he slaughtered a pig on the altar. Like he did. The abomination of desolation is what it's referred to. But it's kind of trippy because Jesus refers to it as a future event, too. So this is this weird, like, repetitive repeat. Yeah.
Top Lobster
Like a fractal event.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
So, like, this dude fulfills it. Remember, the scripture talks about many antichrists, plural. It talks about the spirit of Antichrist, and it talks about the Antichrist. Yeah.
Top Lobster
Our boy Ed Baby says that there is an Antichrist set up for every gen, every generation, because no one knows the time or place. So it's just consistently always there there.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Sure. And so that would be consistent with many antichrists, plural. Like, think if you lived in World War II, you would think, like, this is the end. We've got an Antichrist in Hitler. Like, this is it. It matches all of the things which I feel like that's how our Lord set it up when he's like, wars, rumors of wars, pestilence, famine, earthquakes, and bizarre places. Every generation can look at their generation and say, that's us. Because, look, all those things are happening.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Sure.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
But he's very mysterious. That's why he said it like that.
Top Lobster
But they happen. The thing is that every iteration that they happen, it just grows larger. It compounds on itself.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Sure.
Top Lobster
So the question that I always ask my mom is like, oh, this is the end time. And I was like, it can get way worse, probably. But then you're looking at, you're like, but how much worse could it actually.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
It's like a spiral that tightens. That's what I think, because I think it happens faster each time. Like, each time the cycle seems to be a little bit more dilated, where it seems like things were stretched out on a much wider time scale. Now it's like you just think about the way our news cycle exactly works. You're like, oh, you just blap, blap, blap. And it happens so fast that I, I. It's almost like when you think about fractals or you think about the Fibonacci sequence, which, which applies to the fractal nature of reality. It almost is a representation of how it is a pattern. But it spirals and titans and these things happen faster and faster and faster.
Top Lobster
No, he's right. They go. If you look up the golden region.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I didn't say he wasn't right. Oh, my God, dude.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I didn't say he wasn't.
Matt
Right.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I'm just trying to track, man.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Why?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
He's like, no, no, I'm. I think. Think I might be. I could be just talking. It's like.
Top Lobster
He's right. He's right. Here, I'll show you a picture of what you're talking about. I think you're talking about the golden ratio.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. What we're talking about is that it gets crazier and crazy. I think so.
Top Lobster
But.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But it almost.
Top Lobster
Right here is like this spiral will continue infinitely.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
In the same exact pattern and will never change shape.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's it. So it starts in a flat.
Top Lobster
So I use this. But I use this all the time when I'm designing stuff. This is like. This is the golden ratio. So Leonardo da Vinci uses. So this is in the human face. This is how you do constrictions and proportions. But if you zoom in infinitely within this box, it will always be that way. But things just get tighter. Tighter. Tighter.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
And that's what it feels like as we're reading from the Bible, from here till current day. It just feels like, all right, it's getting tighter, but how much?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Well, yeah, that's what he's saying in the statue. He's saying, like. Like, we think that we're just, like, getting better and better and we're more advanced and we're more the. What is the liberal word? They say that they're progress, progressing. God's like, no, it goes from gold to something lesser.
Top Lobster
Silver, getting worse.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Something lesser called brass to something called iron. And you're ultimately left with dirt.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
The toes are mixed with clay. It's like. It's getting worse and worse and worse as time goes on. And so. Yeah, I like that. I mean, the Fibonacci thing was a lot. But I mean, if you're saying it's just getting tighter and tighter and more constrictive, like a bullet constrictor tightening tight. But the pattern is.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
It's still there.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Stays the same. The pattern stays exactly the same. No, that was solid. Have, like, the cool inside.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Okay. Look at Mama laps.
Top Lobster
I do.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Look how short the days have become.
Top Lobster
Yeah. I mean, go outside, Mom. But it's like the dirt also, when you look at that, when we get down to the toes, God made man from dirt.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
Kind of like that.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
So we're cool.
Top Lobster
Are we really. Are we really that far removed, or is it just a cycle?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You're going heavy right now.
Top Lobster
This is what we're doing here. All right. Come on, Kabbalah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Drinks?
Top Lobster
Yeah. What is this?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay, so I try to watch out for anything in my time period where it's casting down the truth to the ground.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Sure.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay. Verse 13. Then I heard one saint speak. And another saint said unto that certain saint which spoke, how long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice and the transgression of desolation to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden underfoot? And he said unto me. So wait, so Daniel's from one time period, he's in this vision in another time period.
Top Lobster
Here we go.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
And he's having a conversation with people in another time period.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
What do you think he's doing?
Top Lobster
Somebody asked this question. We'll go back to it.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
And he said unto me, 2, 300 days, then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
2, 300.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I'm gonna keep talking till you get to whatever you're getting to. And it came to pass when I, even I, Daniel, had seen the vision and sought for the meaning. Then behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man. And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called and said, gabriel, make this man to understand the vision. Right, so here we have the first appearance of Gabriel.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Nice. Shout out, Gabriel.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
And he looks like a man. He's an angel. He looks like a man. Yeah.
Top Lobster
Where is Ulai?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Somewhere it's got to be near Elam, which is like the south, because the dude Bill Solace has some interesting prophecies about Iran is going to be like the first step where this whole process takes place in Elam. The current territory of Elam is like the south west corner of Iran right now, which was under the control of the Medes and Persians at that time.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
By the way, what's interesting, and I know you probably don't have to give this that much credence at all, but that war scroll does list the. I think the nations that are going to be a part of this whole thing. Edom, Moab, Amom, Philistia, Amalek, that's Gaza. And Kittim, which is usually understood as Rome.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Well, there's dudes that have way better understanding of all that. Yeah, there's a lot of passages that talk about all the nations that are going to war with Israel and exactly how it all goes down, that it's just not necessarily like my specialty because he's straight. But this one's, this one's cut and dry because Gabriel shows up now to give him understanding. Right? So. So here's Gabriel, he says, all Right, I'll explain it to you. So Gabriel came near verse 17. He came near where I stood, and when he came, I was afraid and fell upon my face. But he said unto me, understand, O son of man, for at the time of the end shall be the vision. So this is where it gets trippy, because it's kind of the time of the end. All of that parallels with Greece and Antiochus Epiphanies, but that's not the end. It's not even the end of the Greek Empire, as far as I understand. I think people came after Antiochus Epiphanies in the Greek Empire.
Top Lobster
Shout out to your shirt real quick. Because even so, even Gabriel, who was just the regular messenger angel, like, he's not even. I think that's a throne. This dude is terrifying.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Like, oh, yeah.
Top Lobster
What do they look like?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Like, everybody, he's like, well, why would you.
Top Lobster
Why were you afraid? Like, terrified?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, you know, in.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Maybe it's the way they're glowing. I don't know. That's true.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
If you saw a glow, it looks like a man.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. Verse 15. Then. Then there appeared the appearance of a man. That's what people aren't ready for, bro. That's why it says in Hebrews, be mindful of how you deal with strangers, because some have entertained angels, unaware they look like men, they look like humans. Now, what's in this? The wheel within the wheel and Ezekiel's vision, that's this whole other thing that's like, I don't want to get into it, but it's like the chariot of God, because I know you guys, like ancient alien guys and stuff, but there's like, the chariot of God. He shows up and there's certain stuff.
Top Lobster
That'S what raptures him somewhere else. But I don't know, they say there's a. It's a classification of angel that's called a throne.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Interesting.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
I don't know.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay, yeah. So he says, I was afraid and then fell upon my face. And then Gabriel said to me, understand, oh, son of man, at the time of the end shall be the vision. So now it looks like we're getting some overlap with Greece and Antiochus Epiphanies. And potentially, what's going to happen at the end. Now, as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face towards the ground. But he touched me and set me upright. And he said, behold, I'll make you know what shall be in the last end of the indignation. For at the time appointed, the end shall Be.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's a crazy thing. So he's like, I. I buried my face because I was afraid, and then I fell sleep. And then he was like, yo, wake up, dog. He touched me.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
He was like in a trance. Like, Peter goes into a trance in the New Testament too. Paul talks about being in a trance too, I think. But, but the. But the thing is here is, he says, look, it's gonna happen at the time appointed. So I know it may look like, you know, there's Elon Musk and the Epstein files, and then there's Laura Loomer did this, and the Republicans and Democrats did that, and there's all this stuff going on. But listen, God's in control of the whole thing. None of this is going to go down until the time appointed.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Right.
Top Lobster
I'm pretty sure Laura Loomer has something to do with.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I think so. I think she's orchestrating it all.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
She's my friend. The ram which you saw having two horns are the kings of medium Persia. So nobody. Nobody's debating this.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
It's like, hey, no debate.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. And the rough goat is the king of Greece. So that's why if anybody in the chat was like, what? How do you know it's meads and Persians Agree. It's just because the scripture says it right there, which I'm grateful for. We don't have to guess.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Nice place.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
And the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king. Like, that's Alexander the Great. Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand out of the nation, but not in his power.
Top Lobster
And then that happens. Yeah, sick.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Now this is where it gets a little weird, because now it's like, okay, he's talking about Greece, but then he kind of goes two tone here. Like, it's a little bit grease, but it's a little bit something else. And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance and understanding. Dark sentences shall stand up, and his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power. Like he's propped up from something in the unseen realm. And that's why it can apply to Antiochus epiphanies and it can apply to a future ruler.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
What does it say? Go back up to the. An understanding. Dark sentences shall come up.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Up, huh? Yeah. Like, he just. He's gonna know mysteries, dude. Like, imagine if a dude who's in communication with something from the unseen realm and has, like, answers to stuff that, like, common people are have always been perplexed by. He's got all these answers. They're going to easily go astray, according to this guy.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's interesting. I attribute that sort of a thing to a lot of world leaders. You know.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Sure.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Channeling. And. And a lot of them are in fugue states induced by drug usage. And they're. You know. It reminds me of Elon. I know you just said it's not Elon. Don't worry about that.
Top Lobster
But dark sentences. That word is a key doll. I'm just trying to figure out what are you.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Proverbs. Is that one of the ways you see where it says, like, how it's. How it's translated. That word, that Hebrew word's translated as dark sayings. Hard questions, dark sentences, proverbs, dark speech.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
So if you scroll down, how come.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
That'S not on the screen? Is that on the screen?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, because I was.
Top Lobster
I was scrolling all around.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, but I think that's good for people to see how easy and good blue letter Bible is, bro. It's like you can.
Top Lobster
Are we getting paid for this?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
So what's going on right here is.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Brought to you by blue letter.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, yeah. Riddle. So. So that Hebrew word, whatever it is, I don't see it.
Top Lobster
This one here. Or he.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
He.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay, I know, but he's like, very.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Whatever. It works for you.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
So anyway, you can click on that word and it'll show you everywhere in the Bible where. For how that word is translated in English. So that word is translated in English nine times riddle, three times dark sayings.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But it says right there, outline of biblical usage riddle. Difficult question. Parable. Enigmatic. So it's like secrets. It's like, you know. Yeah. This dude knows secrets.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. Yeah. And he's propped up from a power that's not his own.
Top Lobster
This is a. This is a very interesting tool.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I mean, I can't believe you haven't been using it, bro. Yeah, the literary Bible changed my life, bro. Bro, you have access to everything. Like, this is stuff that people used to have to go to cemetery school to understand. They had to. You couldn't understand the Greek or the Hebrew or know any of this stuff. Maybe you could have like a strong thesaurus or whatever. But this is clicks away, bro. Not only that. Like, say there's some word you're confused about in the Bible. Type in the word faith or type in the word love. Type in any word you want. Angel in the search bar. It'll show you everywhere in the Bible where it pops up. So if you want Biblical definitions of words. Like, that's how you do it. It.
Top Lobster
The cross referencing. And this is. It's super powerful.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, bro, this is rad. I can't wait to have.
Top Lobster
When is that guy coming?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
October something.
Top Lobster
October something. We're gonna have our studio set up.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, we're gonna be.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Right.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah. I mean, yeah. Well.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
October something.
Top Lobster
That's October something. It could be whenever that you said.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I don't know. I think I texted you when the guy's coming. I think.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
You don't know. Yeah. Is it early October? Is it mid October? Is it later?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It's early. It's my boy Jake. He's a solid dude. He's the blue letter Bible guy. It's a great, great talk to us.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
If we don't have a table.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
All right.
Top Lobster
Okay.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, that's reassuring. Maybe we can get a temporary table.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay, let's keep going.
Top Lobster
All right, let's keep. Let's keep doing it. No table tape. We don't have a table right now.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Let me keep reading. The book of Daniel.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power. And he shall destroy wonderfully and shall prosper and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand, and he shall magnify himself in his heart. And by peace shall destroy many.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Oh, that's interesting.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Well, the dude, Peter Thiel is actually on that.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Whoa. It wasn't.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Bro, if you ever listen to that guy in interviews and stuff, he knows what's up with the Antichrist.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, he did a four part series on the Antichrist. We have to listen to that.
Top Lobster
We have to review it. Yeah, yeah. Peter Thiel talking about himself.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. I forget the dude's name, but he said, don't you think if there was an Antichrist that he'd be using the technology that you've created? Like, he asked him straight up like that.
Top Lobster
I think Tucker Carlson has past him. I think that was that interview.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I never saw that. I saw a different one, but I'm like, bro, this dude's locked. He just understands that the. That the Antichrist is going to come through. Peace, man.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
He's gonna.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
He's like, his sayings are going to be peace, peace, like bringing peace. Yeah, that's his big thing.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Sudden destruction.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
He shall also stand up against the prince of princes, but he shall be broken without hand. So now we're back to the statue where the stone comes out. That wasn't Cut with hands and destroys the whole statue. It was cut without hands.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Oh, that's a gangster way of saying.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Now all of a sudden we're back to the, like, now it's the end empire. It's not Greece. There's another empire after Greece according to the statue. So now it's like, he can't be talking about Greece.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
So what do you think they're saying? It's like whatever this, this empire is will be destroyed by a comet.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, by Jesus when he comes back and establishes his kingdom. Yeah, that's my take.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I know there's this with three eye atlases.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I know there's the dudes with the little season and I know there's a lot of different views. And when he comes back, I'm just saying that's my take.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Take.
Top Lobster
I'm so glad that, like. Because David is cool, right? But not as cool as Daniel. Daniel's just a, a true gangster.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That felt personal and weird.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Just in Daniel. When you read, when you get into David's life, you're like, dude, David is a gangster. He danced, he did what took Goliath. Like, like what?
Top Lobster
I'm reading through First Samuel right now.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You are?
Top Lobster
Yeah. And it's just, it's fine. David's cool, he's a good character, but he's just flawed.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But Daniel is for the Lord.
Top Lobster
Daniel is just the man, man.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Bro, what are you saying? David was so rad, his father in law said, you bring me back a hundred foreskins of the Philistines, I'll let you marry My daughter. 200, dude.
Top Lobster
Sounds gay to me.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, he's my guy, dude.
Top Lobster
I'm saying. No, no, he's great. I'm saying David is great. He's great. One of the greatest characters in the Bible. I think Daniel is better. Daniel is just more to the point. He doesn't mess up nearly as much.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Now we're touching on something. This is weird because. Because you relate to them because of who you are and the way you live your life about the scripture is like how you are. You relate to those dudes in the Bible that are like that. You relate to them more. Another thing that happens is you'll interpret Bible passages based on who you are. Like where, where the Bible doesn't spell out the motive, but a guy does a thing. It's very intriguing if you're in a lot of Bible studies to watch people say, well, I think he did it because of this. Yeah, it always tells like we're there. How it's that.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's Interesting. How do you feel about Matthew? Matthew?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
What do you mean? What is he doing? Why is he doing that?
Top Lobster
Just asking. It's a fair question.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
The book of Matthew.
Top Lobster
No. Matthew.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yay.
Top Lobster
The tax collector.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I don't. I mean, it's not a whole lot told about it, man. I mean. All right, tax collector. Follow Jesus. He's got a great book.
Top Lobster
Good book. First book.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Didn't collect a lot of foreskins.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay, now it's getting.
Top Lobster
That's true, too. Didn't have a lot of dreams, but.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay, bro, I thought we're gonna make it one whole episode. And the vision of the evening in the morning, which was told is true. Wherefore. Shut up. The vision, for it shall be for many days. And I, Daniel, fainted and was. Six certain days afterward, I rose up and did the king's business. And I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it. Can I just say something real quick? Anybody who takes these passages faints a lot.
Top Lobster
He does paint a lot, bro.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You guys don't understand. This dude is a savage. He got thrown in the lion's den and lived, bro. This is a lot. He's. That's how heavy this stuff is on him, bro. This is so heavy.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
What?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
He's also 80. But. No, it's not that. It's also part of it. No, and that's, like, people are like, oh, I had this vision.
Top Lobster
I like how Matt's like. He's, like, age nothing but a thing. Yeah, 45.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, but, like, sometimes you're in Pentecostal circles or whatever you want to call it, and this guy had this vision and that vision and this vision. That vision. You got three visions a week. Like, bro, whole. Maybe a lot of patience. Maybe not. Maybe you didn't. Dude, like, this dude Daniel, he's, like, dropped to the floor, man. Yeah. John sees the vision in the eye on the patmos, and he drops the ground as a dead man is what it says in Revelation. So, like, yeah, maybe you didn't have all these visions that you're saying.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Oh, that's true. I mean, I feel like maybe you'd fall down, at least.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Maybe this is another level. And maybe your life would look totally different if you really did have the vision you're saying you had. Like. Like, maybe your lifestyle would look way different.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
This would have this incredible effect on you, because it did on a guy who got thrown in a lion's den and lived like it did on a guy who was not afraid.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
It's an uncomfortable point to make. I Don't know.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
People.
Top Lobster
People that have a lot of dreams, like, they're just like.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It seems like no, dreams is one thing. Some of us are dreamers. Like, that's okay. I'm just saying, like. Like how much you're applying to it or how much meaning it has. I just think dreams is different than visions, man. Vision.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
So, like, they're not as important.
Top Lobster
You think, like, David might have had dreams, but Daniel had visions.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
David's like, yeah, we don't really get into his, like, visionary life. We get into, like. No, but actually, if you read the Psalms, like, dude, David sat in on conversations, like, in the Godhead. That's a whole other thing for another time. If you read Psalms, though, like, the stuff that David was overhearing between the Godhead, having conversations is crazy, bro.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
David seems pretty cool.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It's crazy. But he's a Renaissance man. Like, he's. He plays the. He plays the harp. Seems like he's killing giants.
Top Lobster
Like an eavesdropper, though.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
So, bro, can we get back to.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
The book about the guy fainting?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
This is all I want to say, though. This is all I want to say, though. I know a lot of dudes, they read the stuff, and they make perfect charts and graphs and stuff, and they say, this is exactly what this means. This is what that means. That's what that means. That's what this means. And they're. And there's. They know everything about it.
Top Lobster
Don't do that.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
They know everything about it. Are you guys there?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, they know everything about it.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay. Daniel says, yeah, bro. How he wraps this whole thing up. He had a vision, and angel comes and explains it to him. He says, yeah, bro, I still don't understand. Can we. Can we just be honest? Can we just say it's okay to say, yeah, I've done a little research, and it looks like Greece did this. And. And, you know, after Alexander the Great died, he had four generals. And it looks like it all applies to this. It looks like it all fits, but I don't know. Yeah, like, I don't know.
Top Lobster
I like that.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I think that's okay. I don't think you have to be somebody who knows everything. I think what you really do have to do, though, is pull from the story and say, let me make sure I'm applying this to my life now, the generation that I live in. Like, if this is the forces of darkness and this is how they operate, how am I going to deal with this in my time period?
Top Lobster
If you had to, like, look at the book of Daniel so far. Because really, I mean, the rest of this book, we're not even going to get into any more of his characteristics. It's most mostly like, going to be prophecy and dreams.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
The next chapter is like the great chapter on his character.
Top Lobster
On his character, yes. Let's read it. What do we do? But did you want to finish the.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Question or go straight into 9 1?
Top Lobster
I just want to know. I want to know, like, what are. Why he flaws? Why is he so much better?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I mean, it doesn't. I mean, it looks like. Okay, so anybody who's rad in the Bible, all they've done is submit to God.
Top Lobster
God.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
That's all they've done. They've killed this. They've killed off the flesh to the biggest extent possible, and they're allowing God to live through them. That's all we do. That's all that's all we do, is we submit to God and we allow God to live through us. That's why Christianity is incredibly offensive. Our claim is that God lives inside of us. That's our claim. I don't know if most Christians know that, but that's an incredibly offensive claim. God lives inside me. Do you see what I'm saying? There's no, there's no, like, religions that have such a thing.
Top Lobster
That's why the Pharisee, like, really lost it. When Jesus said, like, he's the son of God, and, And he was kind of, like, claiming that, that sort of thing. They. They were like, you gotta die.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I think they knew he was God. That's why they were like, you gotta die. Because you got that parable where the vineyard. The vineyard owner, like, lends it out. He sends his servants, they beat the servants, he kills another servant. He's. They kill him. He sends the sun. They know it's the sun, and they say we got to kill him so that we can still have this thing. So I don't know. That's highly debatable. I don't know if I've always thought that, but I definitely think that now that, like, the Pharisees knew who he was and they just didn't care, bro. It was just. If you do. If you can't see eternity, it doesn't matter. Yeah, like, what's my claim on money and things and stuff? Right now?
Top Lobster
The other, another. The other interpretation would be saying that Jesus lies, lied in the parable, but. Or exaggerated, but it doesn't seem like he. He doesn't do that.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Am I supposed to take that statement serious? I don't Understand.
Top Lobster
No, no, I'm.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Jesus lied.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, Lex pros.
Top Lobster
That's what I'm saying.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
This is the father explained. 10:18 Mark 10:18.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I never said Jesus was the father.
Top Lobster
Good God. Jesus parable was saying that. Yeah. Then. Then he sent his son and they knew and they killed him. So it's like, well, either he's lying or he's. No, he's telling you exactly the truth. So then they did know.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Oh, you're saying the Pharisees thought Jesus must be lying right now? That's what he's implying.
Top Lobster
Well, no, no, what I'm saying is that I think that you're right. I think that because it's. It was always a question to me. A question to me of whether they were just so deeply offended and then like, acted on their nature to. To, like, have you crucified or if they did know.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But if.
Top Lobster
And they knew and they knew.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
So.
Top Lobster
Both.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, yeah, bro. They didn't want their empire to come to an end. They controlled the people through religion. Do you know how powerful it is to control all of the people through religion?
Top Lobster
But there's a big difference between. This guy has a movement that is really persuasive and we have to stop it. Versus this is the prophecy of what Moses and all the prophets have told us. And it is come to pass and it is now and still go. No, that's a level of malfeasance that I don't even think you. Can you even. Good word. Apologize for that. Can you atone for. That's a hard. That's a crazy.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Jesus said, all blasphemy will be forgiven, including blasphemy against the Son of Man. But one blast with me, blasphemy will not be tolerated. The blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. So if you look at how Jesus handled the Pharisees, I think everything he was doing, he was even trying to still draw their hearts even in all.
Top Lobster
That crazy question, is this blasphemy? When I say the tongues sound like this and then I say it, it's not right. I don't think so.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is denying the Holy Spirit. The point. The point is that. So it's not going to happen is that this is the last manifestation of the Godhead on the planet. Planet like Jesus. There was people who blasphemed him, hung him on the cross. There was people who are even like cheering for it at some later time. They figured out, oh, damn, that was God. And those people turned to The Holy Spirit. And they. And they were okay. You could blaspheme the Son of Man and still be saved if you came to know the Holy Spirit. If you live in this time period and you deny the Holy Spirit, there's no, there's no manifestation of the Godhead coming to the planet again. Again. This is your last chance.
Top Lobster
That's the last thing that is here.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
The Holy Spirit is the last chance for man.
Top Lobster
Gotcha. Okay, understood.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Can we go back to reading the thing?
Top Lobster
We need a drop that says, can we read the Bible?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
In the first year of Darius, the son of Ahasuerus, of the seed of the Medes, which was made king over the realm of the Chaldeans in the first year of his reign, I, Daniel, understood by books the number of the years whereof the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish 70 years in the desolations of Jerusalem. Jerusalem. So not only is Daniel a man of prayer, Daniel is a man in the word of God. He had the. This is a story in the Bible about a man in the Bible reading the Bible. Are you guys okay with that? Yeah, he's reading the prophecies of Jeremiah and he's doing the math and he's going, damn, we're close, we're close. Okay, we're there. Jeremiah prophesied this. He was a real one. Like this. We're there.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Shout out Jeremiah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
We're at that time period.
Top Lobster
Is this where you get the 70 years, Adam? The destruction of the temple, Jerusalem?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No prophecy.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
No, no, that's dumb.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I mean, that was a year that the destruction of the temple happened. Historically was AD 70. But this is just talking about the 70 years that Israel is held captive in Babylon.
Top Lobster
Gotcha.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
When they were told go into Babylon.
Top Lobster
He'S getting emotionally slapped the mic.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
They were going. They were told to go into Babylon and start food for us. Remember we talked about that last time? He said, go there, thrive, have a garden, bless the society that you live in. Like, go there. So it's like the same thing today, man. Like, we're living in a Babylonian world today, man. Like we're in the system, we're just not of the system. So we do our thing, we grow a food forest. Like, just like he told them when they were in Babylon. Like, you just, you get out there, you grow your own food. You don't want to be a part of the system depending on the grocery stores and McDonald's. Like, you want to start to have kind of your own thing and not be dependent on A system. Any of the systems, the so called healthcare system, the food system, so called political system or the cardio system. Like all these systems are so broken and corrupted because they're worldly systems.
Top Lobster
By the way, you just reminded me I, Owen Benjamin might be coming to Florida, December maybe. Maybe that's cool. If he does, we got to do something because he, he's like big food forest guy.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
But just we'll bring him over, show him the food.
Top Lobster
No, I mean like do like a pod with them.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay, but can we see the food forest?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Can we do it?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I can't do a podcast. It's going to be on forest us. Can't we just do them real life? Like we'll just come over.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Oh, I do like the star fruit food funds.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
And that's why I was late because I was bringing your family a bag of star fruit. So. Okay, so this is why I love this dude. Daniel time travel. Okay, verse two. I'm gonna read again. I Daniel, understood by books the number of the years whereof the word of the Lord came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish 70 years in the desolations of Jerusalem. So he's studying the scripture, he's understanding it. Verse 3. And I set my face to go on all the podcasts and argue with other denominations about my way that I viewed it so that I had the right theology and the right doctrine and got everybody else wrong.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
See, now you're lying to people.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, that's not what it says.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Right.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
He didn't come to understanding of the scripture and then try to beat people in theological debate.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Sure.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Do you see what I'm saying?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's a weird thing.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You guys.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Practical debates are a little bit of a weird thing.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Well, you guys probably don't get. You're not in that world much. You're more in like the conspiracy theory world.
Top Lobster
We are.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Well, like there's these different camps like the so called Reformed or Pentecostal or Presbyterian or Baptist or what, and they're all arguing over doctrine. Daniel's like, bro, I'm not arguing with anybody about Doc. Like I've studied the scriptures. This is the conclusion I come to. I'm going to set my face to pray. Do you see what I'm saying? Like what are people doing with the scripture? Like this is what matters, man. Like if you're just taking in the scriptures so that like whatever cemetery school you went to and your doctrine believes this, this, this and this, and now you can go win debates against the other guys that are in the same Church, like in the same body of Christ. Christ, like, what is going on in the body, bro? When I see these things on the YouTube and the different people arguing, like, what is going on? How is the church going to have any impact in the world? They're arguing with each other. Like, if you have some great revelation and understanding given to you by God, that's not to go beat a guy in a debate. That's so you'll set your face to pray according to God's will and live accordingly. And another thing that's wrapped up in this is he doesn't say, oh, he's coming. The 70 years is coming to an end. So, well, there we go. God's going to do everything. He'll take care of it. Of it. No, he doesn't do that. Like, God works with us. We're co laborers with God. So I didn't make it that way. God made it that way. I don't know if I would have made it that way. But he chose to make it that way, that we're co laborers with him. So Daniel said, God, I want to get linked up with you. If this is what you're doing, I want in on it, Right? So he says, I set my face unto the Lord God to seek by prayer and supplications with fasting and sackcloth and ashes. This is like morning fasting.
Top Lobster
Yeah. What's up with the sackcloth?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
What's up with this form of mourning? That's how they, that's how they described it.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Any relation to the sack?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
But no, this is how they set it up in the Old Testament with like, mourning, like, and Jesus says it in the Sermon on the Mount, blessed are those who mourn. There's an element of where, like, you're not like a morning over your own life or sad over your own life, but you're looking at the state of the world and you mourn over it. You come to terms with, like, yeah, a lot of these people I know from my kids, you know, baseball game or basketball game, they're not. They're on the path to hell, man. Like, I'm coming to terms, like, people I meet at the gas station, they're on a path to hell. Like, all these people, like, what's going on on the planet? And you're mourning and you're crying out to God. And there's a very specific way he prays too. Like, watch this. He's mourning, he's fasting. Sackcloth and ashes. I prayed on Lord my God and made my confession and said, oh, Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him and to them that keep his commandments. We have sinned.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yes.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Watch how many times this dude says we, because I know I'm totally guilty of praying in a way of saying they. And so sometimes you have to catch yourself, because sometimes I might say they. That 501C3 system, like, we're all. We are all part of the same body. I'm not a big fan of that system, but we're part of the body. And so in that sense, we have sinned and have committed iniquity and have done wickedly and have rebelled even by departing from thy precepts and from thy judgments. You can't depart from something unless you were already at it. You see what I'm saying? So there's these people. They're covenant people. They've entered into this relationship, but they've departed from it.
Top Lobster
Yeah, it's also like, he's talking about accountability, too. Daniel has really nothing to do with this. But still, like. Like, you're saying he's taking ownership. How else are you supposed to change anything unless you do partially?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Like, I wouldn't.
Top Lobster
I mean, I guess David was good at this. He took. You took ownership of something that I, I was, like, influencing you or telling you, like, yo, dude, dude, it's nothing to do with you. You're outside of music. I'm gonna take some ownership of this. Even though, like, I played a very small part.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Solid. He likes to play. Like, he's not, but he's a solid dude.
Top Lobster
He's gay.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, but this all comes back to the Matthew 7, 24, 27 passage. Like, people who enter into a relationship with God. There's only two paths for these people, man. Those who hear these sayings of mine and do with them, and those who hear these sayings of mine and do with them, not. Not. And so we just end up in this scenario where these people have departed from the ways of the Lord. They're still claiming to be Christians. They're still claiming to be in covenant, but they're not living accordingly. That's hard, though.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
It's like, I'm listening to that, like, this idea of mourning for other people. I, I, I, I don't do that, admittedly. I kind of go, like, I don't. I don't wish them ill, but I go like, man, hope that works out. Hope they figure it out. You know what I mean? But, like, morning, like, going to the. The extent of mourning for people is.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Like, praying for them.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Them praying for him is. Yeah, that.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
That I can do.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But, like, being sad actively sad is a very difficult.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No. No. Well, I'm not saying walk around actively sad.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Like, no, but even had to have a moment of being, like, actively sad. Like, I can feel sad. I'm like, damn, dude.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
But you might, you might enter into that when you're praying. You may not start off praying with that in mind. And then as you're praying, just the grief kind of in the morning takes over, and next thing you know, you're crying as you're praying. And you really do see it how God sees it. Because ultimately that's what happens when you're really in prayers. Like, boom.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
How do you feel about praying naked?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Why do you have to make it so weird? Like, when.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Okay, well, it's weird because that's what I do.
Top Lobster
Do you even have to necessarily be in prayer to. Because I've. I experienced that sometimes. And I'm not like, I'm. I'll be dry. It happens when I'm driving sometimes get sad.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Real sad for people.
Top Lobster
January 6th, that. That kicks off.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's a big thing.
Top Lobster
Yeah, no, but it's, it's. It's the. I was, I was watching the live feed, and the moment I remember, Trump goes, and now let's march peacefully on the Capitol. And I just like, boom. Like, this feeling of. I was like profound sadness. The thing with Charlie Kirk, when that. That happens, it's just like, boom, like in your soul feel. And I don't know exactly why I'm not praying actively. Like, hey, reveal these things to. Upon me. But it's like, you just get this, this. Oh, no. That is a thing that has happened now that will change the landscape of whatever we're doing.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
And I think as you get closer to God, the things that do that to God's heart, they do that to your heart.
Top Lobster
Right, right.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
It's just when I was. So the reason I ask is because I think I shut that sadness mechanism off. I don't do well with sadness.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, you're a feeling stuffer. I'm familiar with.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, yeah.
Top Lobster
Well, food feelings.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Food is deleted.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, you do.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
So what I'm getting at is like. Like, you know that when I was younger, you could imagine it's very sad being homeless. I had to figure out how to turn that off in order to, you know, have some hope for the. And function and get out of it, or else I would succumb to.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Sure.
Top Lobster
It's why I turned off the dream.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
This is a Different kind of morning. That's the point I'm trying to make. It's not mourning over, like, your life or your sadness or issues with you.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Maybe I'm just too hung up on the word morning.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. The closer you get to God, like, you become not really part of the thing.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Thing.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You're just kind of. Humility isn't saying, like, oh, I'm a loser. I'm an idiot. Humility is like. Humility is. You're not talking about you. You're not thinking about you. You're the least important person in the room now.
Top Lobster
Well, like.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Like, for me, if I were to be humble in a thing, I don't. It doesn't make me sad to be like. I don't know, like, that doesn't make me sad. I don't. I don't have to feel bad about that at all. In fact, I kind of find it. It's kind of funny because it. That's the truth of the thing is the more you learn, the more you're like, oh, I don't really know anything. So there's no sadness attached to that either. Maybe I'm just not good.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Maybe I'm mourning over the state of the people, man.
Top Lobster
The thing is, like, you're like a David. You're like a guy that. You collect foreskins. Just collect the foreskins.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay, but think about it. Israel had this, like, glorious promise from God. They were the covenant people on the planet. They were supposed to bless the planet. Now they've gone so far, they've departed from God. They can't even tell the difference between the church and the world. Now they're exactly the same and even worse in a lot of ways. Yeah, Daniel's seeing that. He's saying, man, because of this, you had to take us into captivity city. Oh, he's mourning, man. He's like, oh, it's not because of his own life he doesn't care about.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
So you don't think, like, he's like.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
He doesn't care about his own life. He got thrown in the lion's day. No, no, no.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But I'm so just. I think I. I think you're right. I think I'm getting hung up on the word morning. I'm imagine like a dude sobbing.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
There's some of that. There's some of that. Man, Jeremiah was. Was referred to as a weeping prophet, bro. You look at the world around you and you have a bummer to be around. And it's intriguing because when Jesus said, who do men say that? I am. They said, well, some say John the B. Elijah. Like, everybody's pretty sure you're somebody back from the dead. Like. Like you're definitely not a normal person. But. But in one of the passages, I think it's in Matthew's account, he says, some say Jeremiah. And that was Jeremiah's thing was the weeping prophet. So there is this element, you know, Jesus, he's God, he's man. I think there is this element, man, his griefs and sorrows as he lived on the earth. And he was kind of alone. He was never alone. He was always with the father, but he kind of. He's the only one like him, you know what I mean? So there is an element of that. I know you're always like play time and joke time, but there is.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's not true. You live in.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
There's an element of like mourning over the state of things, man.
Top Lobster
Matt lives so much in Jokeville that he's like, yeah, dude, let's do 10am and. And then he's like, maybe 11.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I really didn't remember and I got lost on the food forest over time. You know, in my mind, I thought it was 11. Area.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I would say area is maybe better than.
Top Lobster
It's a great point though, about like, geez, yeah, Jesus. It kind of. It must have did. But then he also didn't really want to leave. He didn't to want to. Like, he was also enjoying his time here.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, that's almost what makes me feel bad. It's like Jesus wept for the state.
Top Lobster
Of like when he asked God to.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Take the cup from us.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But like, I. I look at that and I'm like, damn, dude, I. I cannot be weapon. For like, what. Like, you know, we talked about the Charlie Kirk thing.
Top Lobster
That's not a word.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
So when. When the. That was a huge bummer, but. But I'm not gonna weep, but like.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay, you're not there yet. It's okay. It's okay. Okay. Verse six. Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Can we read this?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Neither have we hearkened into thy servants to prophets like God. You gave us a city, you gave us a nation. You gave us the scripture, and you sent us live humans in the timeline to deal with stuff. You gave us prophets which spoken your name to our kings, to our princes, to our fathers, and to all the people of the land. Land. We had the written word. We had live humans. And we just turned from it. O Lord, righteousness belongs unto you, but unto us confusion of faces as at this day to the men of Judah and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and into all Israel that are near and that are far off through all the countries where you have driven them because of their trespass, that they have trespassed against you. You guys okay with this? Like, it's Israel, it's his covenant people, but he drove them away because of their rebellion.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Oh Lord, to us belongs confusion of face. To our kings, to our princes and to our fathers because we've sinned against you. All of this comes back.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Wait. Belongs confusion and of face. What does that mean?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
That's more of like shame. I. You can pull it up. I'll bet it says shame. It means like ashamed. Like a Lord, to us belongs. Like we're. We're ashamed.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, yeah, I get the belonging to us. But like, what is it? Confusion of face is an interesting.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It's just a phrase, man. It's just a King James phrase that means like ashamed.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
James, man. What is he?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
What?
Top Lobster
I don't even know. Confusion. It needs to be all together.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Shameful thing. Okay, Confusion.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, I think that's the element of that word is like shame. Shameful. But there probably is an element of confusion in the English as well, because maybe in the Hebrew, like ashamed and confusion kind of go together. But I could see that there's some people that are just very confused a lot. It looks like it's tied to sin. That's interesting what it's talking about. Okay. To the Lord our God. Yeah. Because like we think that everything's tied to intellectual intellect. It's not like that, man. Like, like you think, oh, if you have a strong intellect, then you're not confused. Like, no, man. The way the spirit realm works is like angels can explain things to you. You have spiritual revelation. It doesn't all come by the human intellect. It's just like. Then we talked about it before where like you wouldn't say, oh man, I heard the most beautiful sunrise. We got up early and sat out there and. And we just heard the sunrise. It was beaut. You'd say, bro, you don't hear a sunrise. You don't. You don't use your ears for that. Use your eyes. You see a sun sunrise. Same thing with understanding things according to scripture. Revelation and insight comes through the spirit realm. It doesn't come through the intellect, which I'm grateful for. Intellect. But that's not how it comes according to scripture. And so when we set up a man made system with cemetery, school and preaching and certificates, it's all based on intellect. You can end up in a really weird place as time Goes on.
Top Lobster
It's almost like those two factors work against each other in, in a certain way, but you also need them.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. Men with, with music you need all your capacity, spirit, soul and body. Yeah.
Top Lobster
Well I real quick. I know you want to get straight Bible, but I would like to get. Yeah, go ahead with music. I, I got into really studying it, understanding it articulately with it's math. It's just ones and zeros realistically when you're adding stuff up with music. But it takes away from that aspect of like hearing it. Now I'm thinking, but I'm not actually playing.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
If that makes any sense.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's in a lot.
Top Lobster
You got to unlearn, learn it. You have to unlearn that and then be. But it's, it's a difficult process way.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Though you can get like caught up in the analyticals of, of how you're supposed to be doing a thing instead of most people moment.
Top Lobster
They get so obsessed. The debate stuff the debate people intellect.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
That's what I'm saying. The church today is run on intellect.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It's very soulless.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Can I ask you something? That's going to be a little bit of a departure and I don't want you to give because every time I do it that's weird. Why you have to make it weird. But this is the question that I, I, it's bothering me because we have a. Somebody in the chat. His name is Eamon Rat. And I love Eamon Rat. He's fantastic. Fantastic. But he keeps, and he's not saying it here, but he's, he's, he's pestering us in kind of a joking fashion. But then he keeps bringing up scripture that has to back it. This idea of greeting your, your Christian brothers with a holy kiss.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Is he really saying that?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, yeah, he says it a lot. And then he's like, yeah, that's how.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
They, in the Roman Letter they talk about that. Like Paul says, greet each other with a holy kiss.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But I don't like that.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, well, I don't either. Like there was this dude from Syria that I to, used, used to work with, bro. Well, he would just be so close to me and I, and he would be like this close, talking to me on job nights and stuff. And I'd be like, george, George, back up, man.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
And I would like back up. And he would just stand three feet away and talk and then he would slowly get closer to me.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
And then one time he's seeing, he's talking and his foot is between my two feet. Yeah. He said, george, George, you're. You're too close, man. He goes, no, Maddie, Maddie, you don't understand. In my culture, this is how we talk. I said, yeah, in my culture, we don't, bro. Like, you're made me uncomfortable. Uncomfortable in his feet. In between my two feet. And he said, no, no, Maddie. Like, in my culture, we kiss like men. When we greet, we kiss. I said, bro, we're in America. We don't do it like that, bro. Like, you're my guy. But I don't like that.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But. But Amon Rat says holy kiss is important, and it's biblical.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I like aiming Rat.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I. I am. Rat's the man.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
But I'm not kissing him.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But I don't want to do that. That's not cool.
Top Lobster
We'll see.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You know. You know, the guys, they kit. Like, Europeans do it, bro. Or Brazilian. They kind of put the cheek here. They kiss. They put the cheek here. They kiss.
Top Lobster
Look at the state of. Look at the state of Europe.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Look. Look at the state of Europe. I had a girlfriend once.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Whatever. He brings up a good point, man. That. That's why. That's why I didn't hear him. I'm glad I didn't hear him. According to your face, I'm glad I didn't.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
No, I said I had a girlfriend once. She had very thin lips.
Top Lobster
Please go to the Bible.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
And she shaved her upper lip, and it came back inappropriate, spiky. And when I. And when I gave her a little kiss, it was an innocent kiss.
Top Lobster
I said, a girlfriend with a mustache, please.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
And it was pokey on me, and.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I didn't like it anyway. Yeah, that is a thing. Thing said in the scripture, like greet one another with a holy kiss.
Top Lobster
Yeah, four times, apparently.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Do you have to?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, no. But it's intriguing. I mean, Judas greeted Jesus with a kiss.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, you say no, but you also said you don't like to. So could you just be being like, I don't know.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It's a cultural preferential. And that culture. That's how they did it. Like, right on.
Top Lobster
It was like a power of a passing cultural thing. Yeah, we don't. We don't do that here.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, in that culture, if you say do that, like, that's cool. That's how you three.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Man wants to know if we could have a holy kiss tier on Patreon. When they see us, we have to.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Wait. What verse are we in? I gotta get.
Top Lobster
Can you read the Bible?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay, back to verse nine.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
God.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
To the Lord our God belongs mercies and forgiveness, even though we have rebelled against Him. Notice how he keeps, like, coming at God based on his greatness and his mercy and his kindness, not on anything good in Israel. You know, like, people, they're like, israel's bad. Yeah, no kidding, bro. But if you want to throw that rock at Israel, that's a boomerang. It's going to come back and hit you in the face because the Lord loves you and look how bad you are.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You see what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, this is this thing. We're never reaching out to God and saying, hey, I'm some guy that deserves something. No, no, Lord, I don't deserve anything. You've given me way more than you. You didn't owe me anything to begin with.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
God loves me, despite what I'm not.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Feeding my girlfriend something good in me. It's because of who you are. To Lord, our God belongs mercies and forgiveness. Though we have rebelled against him, neither have we obeyed the voice of the Lord our God to walk in his laws, which he set before us by his servants, the prophets. Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, the law even by departing that they might not obey your voice. Therefore, the curse is poured upon us. People aren't ready for that, bro. The curse is poured upon us. I don't pour the curse on him. And the oath that is written in the law of Moses, the servant of God, because we have sinned against him. That's all broken down like Leviticus 26 and Deuteronomy 27:30. Like, the blessings and the cursings. Daniel's saying, God, you're just doing this according to your word that you said you would do.
Top Lobster
Is he saying. Is he saying, like, the. Kirby. Because when. When the Jews ask for Jesus to be crucified, they say, like, put that blood curse on us.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, they do.
Top Lobster
So he's prophesying that they already have this curse. Like, they are bound to do this.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
He's talking about in this day. They were doing that.
Top Lobster
So it's just. So it's just fractal. It's the same thing.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Oh, yeah, yeah. You enter into a relationship with God. It's not play time, dude. It's not play time.
Top Lobster
This is depressing because you better.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
What?
Top Lobster
Well, this is. Hold on. Because we were.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You better be serious about your relationship with God. I'm not mourning. Because we're touching on something here that's like. Oh, God is like the care bear with the heart on the belly. God is love, and we Mangle that. That meaning of the word love. Like, we mangle all this stuff and we have this lopsided, incorrect understanding of God. Whereas in Deuteronomy is like, 32, he says, I wound and I heal, I kill and I make alive. Like, if you don't understand, if you get a coin that has one side on it, you flip it over, it's a counterfeit if it doesn't have the other side. Same with God, bro. There's this counterfeit God that's just all la, la, la, la, blah. Like, no, no, no. You enter into this relationship with God, you're on dangerous ground. I know that sounds crazy to people. This is a very serious thing. When you enter into a covenant with the creator of the universe and he's saying. He's spelling it out like, lord, I get it. We entered into this covenant with you and we turned on you.
Top Lobster
So, all right, so that we. We did turn on you, but it also exists as, like, a prophecy of, like, they're gonna do it again.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
The patterns always apply.
Top Lobster
But then. Then we were talking about. About predetermination in the shop not too long ago, and you were, like, pretty stoked. They're like, this guy died, like, whatever. The guy that was like, one of the forefathers of Calvinism, or at least.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Don'T say it like that. I was just saying, like, he was like, he.
Top Lobster
He. This is Matt when he's reading his phone.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, I did not get like that.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
He offered the whole shop for drinks. Well, so that predeterminism, it seems like there's a. There's a level of predeterminism, but there's somehow free will within that. Predetermined.
Top Lobster
Yes, because, like, when I. When you read some of these things that are kind of like just.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
These things are gonna happen.
Top Lobster
Yeah, the.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
The purposes of God that are spelled out in the scripture, they are going to happen. Okay, well, the only thing that's not determined is what is our part in it. Like, in the book of Revelation, it says, let no man steal your crown. Doesn't say, don't let an angel or a devil steal your crown. Let no man take your crown. My take on this concept is like. Like, you have a destiny. You're predestined. If you don't fulfill it, somebody else is gonna. If Daniel doesn't pray right here, maybe somebody else is going to pray. Do you see what I'm saying? God's purposes that he spells out, those are going to happen. It doesn't mean, like, God is micromanaging what you order at the drive thru. It doesn't mean that, like he's got these big purposes, these things are going to happen. What's your part in the story though? Like, it's funny because at the same time of this is Esther, right? And then Esther is there to save. Like, there's about to be this crazy anti Semitic thing where they're going to kill off all the Jews in the Persian Empire in Esther. And her uncle Mordecai says, yo, you, she's a queen. You got to go to the king and get this thing stopped or they're going to wipe out all the Jews. And she says, yeah, I kind of can't. He says, hey, if you don't, God will send some other way to save us, but just know you're going to get killed, then you're going to get wiped out out. And I feel like that is totally a thing. God's gonna do his thing. He's gonna do his thing. Now, exactly what your part is in it, that's up to you. That's between you and God. You see what I'm saying? So there's predestination and there's man's responsibility. Like, and if you, and if you want to take the writings of Paul and take how he spells out predestination, then we must look at the life of Paul and see if he lived according to the way you're explaining his doctrine. Like the way you're explaining his writings in Roman, especially, like Romans 9, line, you're saying, like, yeah, that's what Paul believed. No problem. Let's look at Paul's life and see if that's consistent. Because a lot of those arguments are consistent with his life. Like, he, like, Paul's definitely not like, well, okay, that's it. Everything's gonna take care of itself. Just like Daniel wasn't like, well, everything's going to take care of itself. He was a player in the game and he had a role to play and he had a responsibility.
Top Lobster
Right, right. Okay.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Feels like he's yelling at us.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, no, it's just really rude the way he said it about the guy who passed away. Like, I feel terrible for the guy who passed away. I was just.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
So it's your fault that he's just saying, I don't.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You don't subscribe to that. Where were you?
Top Lobster
Where were you when he passed?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I don't want to do this.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Can we get back to please reading the. How much have we gotten through?
Top Lobster
No, I just feel like I felt like it was a good question because.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
We'Re in the second chapter. So we finished one chapter. We're in the next chapter. We're in nine.
Top Lobster
Whenever you go to Matt's shop, you can ask him a question and then he'll have to pour coffee at some point.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
And then.
Top Lobster
And then it's never. You never pick up the same point.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
So we were on that topic at one point, and I felt like it was good, but it would.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But then he had coffee to serve.
Top Lobster
Something happened.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I got a job, bro.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I'd go for a flat.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You guys just play play time all the time.
Top Lobster
Bills, bro. This guy's having dreams and collecting force.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
11. We're in verse 11.
Top Lobster
Collect your foreskin.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, we just read verse 11. We're in 12. And he has confirmed his words which he spoke against us and against our judges that judged us by bringing upon us a great evil. God brought upon us a great evil.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yes.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
For under the whole heaven has not been done as have been done upon Jerusalem. As it is written in the law of Moses, all this evil has come upon us. Us yet made we not our prayer before the Lord our God, that we might turn from our iniquities and understand thy truth.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
This is important for people. They're like, why does God let evil things happen?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
He spells it out ahead of time.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, silly ass.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
But then also, see this connection again between iniquities and then understanding truth again. It's not all intellect, man. There's this connection between, like, living in sin, having sin, and because of that, it's blocking you from understanding, trust, truth. A lot of people aren't ready for that. But it's right there.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's interesting.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
That's okay. So living in sin will stop us from understanding truth. Therefore hath the Lord watched upon the evil and brought it upon us. Because the Lord our God is righteous in all his works, which he does, for we obeyed not his voice. So I'm saying, bro, it's not playtime when you enter into a relationship with God.
Top Lobster
I think that, you know, the. The difficult thing about this and for most people, people, even for myself, like all the time, is like, how do you hear this thing constantly?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Because it's.
Top Lobster
It's almost as if the implication is that he's. He's constantly telling you, do this, do that. But a lot of times it's not so obvious.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, his voice is very subtle. Like, that's a great point. Dude is like the voice of God. Like, I guess people are waiting for like an angel to, like, fly through the window and, like, break the glass. Like, no, no. His voice is very subtle. And if you don't get quiet. That's why working in a food forest is a nice thing to do. You study the scripture, and then you're in the food forest, and it's quiet, and it's just you and God, and you're kind of waiting for his voice, and he's kind of talking to you about things, giving you insight into the scripture, giving you insight into your business, giving you insight into your family, giving you insight into your life. Like, if you're so busy with the things. This is why I try to be very careful to not get super busy, because that destroys my spiritual life. If you get so busy, you won't hear the subtle voice of God.
Top Lobster
It makes me feel a lot better about you being late today.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Like, oh, that's what he was doing.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Okay.
Top Lobster
He's listening.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I did get lost on the. I did lose track of time. I'm sorry. I feel bad listening.
Top Lobster
It's playtime.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
No, it's play time here.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. And now we're just hanging out and joking. And now, oh, Lord, our God, you've brought thy people forth out of the land of Egypt with a mighty hand and have gotten thee renowned. Is at this day. We have sinned. We have done wickedly. So he says, look, you brought us a slave nation out of Egypt, out of the most powerful empire on the planet. It. And this is how we've repaid you. Like, we were in bondage. We were enslaved. We were at the slave auction. And I'm just concerned that Christians can potentially do the same thing. Like, we've been ransomed. The scripture talks about.
Top Lobster
I mean, reading this, it's like, I like to throw some stones at Israel in the state of them today, because it's easy.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It's a boomerang. Be careful.
Top Lobster
Well, it's not just a boomerang, but it is true. It's like a lot of the times when I was thinking, maybe I'll go back to church. Maybe I'll do. Do this. I'm keenly aware that if I do that, then the responsibilities are this. And I'm like, I'm gonna mess up. So I was like, I know. This is my logic, though.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Don't do that.
Top Lobster
I was like, but don't even. That was. I was like, don't even start that yet, because you're not even ready yet in the scripture.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, you're never ready. What does that mean? But I hear people say that I've.
Top Lobster
Always heard that I'm just being truthful. I'm not telling.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
No, no.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I've heard people say that. They're like, well, I want to start going to church and reading a Bible, but the way my life is, I'm not really not ready. You're never going to be ready. You have to do it now. God's not like, oh, you have to be such amount good before you can come talk to me.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Is it like you do the thing and God makes you ready?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. Let's start with where you're at. Like, this is why he doesn't like hypocrites. You have to come to him and be honest. You have to come to God and be honest and say, hey, I'm not really ready because I still want to play playtime with all this other crazy stuff. But like, I want to get with you, Lord, like, what do I do now? And he takes you to like in that state and starts working on you and you have to cultivate. What does that mean? I don't want to go to the gym until I can bench £300.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Oh my God, dude, that's a great.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Who's saying that?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
You see that in the gym, really commonly, people. I've known so many people. I got to get the right workout equipment, I got to find the right thing. I gotta do this. It's like you can literally just start doing pushers. And you see that with having children where it's like, oh, I'm not ready to have children because I'm not in this financial place or I'm not enough. And you see the same thing when it comes to marriage. Oh, I'm not ready to settle down. I'm not ready to do this. It's like, shut up.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You'll never will. When are you ready to like live in a home with somebody who came from, from a two totally different backgrounds and start fighting over the toothpaste and which brand of milk you're gonna have? Like, you're never ready for that. There's never a time that any of this stuff, you just have to do it. That's what I'm saying, man, is people are like being putting things off to somehow in the by and by, in the future they're going to be a man of God in the future, they're going to do this or that. You got to do it now, man. You have to do it now.
Top Lobster
I like that. I'm a big fan of. I've been a big fan of that more, a lot more recently. Yeah, just go do it.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Just. Just do it, bro. Like, nobody's doing anything by sitting around.
Top Lobster
They called it. They called it a juma ring, which is. I'm gonna be using that a lot now. Jumering shout out Elohim. Okay, you didn't like that one? That's a great one.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That was a good.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, I don't mind it because it's. That it's applicable. A lot of people are throwing stones at Israel today. I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying be careful with that accusation because that could be thrown at you.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
God doesn't love you because you're so great and Israel's so bad.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Not. What's going on, dude. Like, anything you can point out in Israel, you're that wicked as well as.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, I love Laura Loomer.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Did somebody say that or you just said that?
Top Lobster
No, we. I don't like how she tweets, but.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I'm pretty sure I don't know enough about, like, her public thing, who she is in the coffee shop. She's the sweetest.
Top Lobster
That's what I'm saying.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
They weren't very happy.
Top Lobster
I can't even argue with the people that are like, oh, Lord, because they know about this side.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I don't know any of her tweets and stuff. I don't play the tweeters, so she.
Top Lobster
Seems like a nice lady. Anyway, 16. That's where we're at.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay. But that 15 is a big deal, man. Like, you bought us from the slave auction, Jesus. Like, you ransomed us. You paid the high. Like some demon was. Was like, I'll. A demon of lust was like, I'll pay a dollar for that piece of trash so I can own them. And then, like, a demon of, like, loving, snorting, oxycontins and addiction and stuff. I'll pay two bucks for that piece of trash. And then Jesus stepped in and said, I'll pay the most valuable substance in the universe for Matt. I'm buying them from the slave auction now with my own blood. And then we went out, and I'm taking him. Can you imagine if I turn on him now?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Can you imagine? He came in and bought me with the most valuable substance in the universe. Universe. And then I turn from them, and I'm not obeying him, and I'm not living according to his word. I'm departing from his ways. I hear these sayings of his, and I don't do it.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I don't want to do that. That is the Common thing that happens all through the scripture. I want to be mindful of that and make sure I don't do that. Okay. Verse 16. O Lord, according to all thy righteousness, I beseech thee, let your anger and your fury be turned away from thy city, Jerusalem, Thy holy mountain, because says, for our sins and for the iniquities of our fathers, Jerusalem and thy people are become a reproach to all that are about us. Oh, the Jews are a reproach. That's nothing new. This is all through scripture. Now, therefore, O our God, hear the prayer of thy servant and his supplications and cause your face to shine upon thy sanctuary that is desolate. For the Lord's sake, oh my God, incline thy ear and hear. Open your eyes and behold our desolations in the city which is called by thy name. For we do not present our supplications before thee for our righteousness. Righteousness, but for thy great mercies. There it is again, man. Oh, Lord, hear. O Lord, forgive, O Lord, hearken. And do defer not for thy own sake, oh my God. For thy city and thy people are called by thy name.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
This you want to talk about. Prayers that keep going. Like, we were in church and they were talking about the. The Canaanite woman that came to Jesus and was asking to heal her son. And. And Jesus were like, this is, you know, this.
Top Lobster
This is why you touch every part of the mic.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I do it because it's like, you know.
Top Lobster
No, it's fine where it's at.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Can I finish the thing? Yeah, go ahead, stupid. Sorry, I had to. No, now I. Now you are stupid.
Top Lobster
So.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
So. And he goes like, no, this is for the children of Israel. You don't give what is for the children to the dogs or something like that. And then she's just like, well, even the dogs. She's like, I am a dog, homie. And he's like, humble, crushing. Here you go. And it says, like, over and over.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
And over again, it says something. The extent that he was astonished at her.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
He was like. He was pumped. He was super pumped.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
And said something like. He didn't see any faith like that among the covenant people. Yeah, she was a non covenant people. He was trick.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
She was like, yeah, I'm literally a dog. But the dogs get cr.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
She's a real one.
Top Lobster
Do you think she had, like, an actual dog face? You think this was.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
How do you take these great stories and turn it into that? I love that you love that story. He's like, yeah, I'm just A dog, but at least we get the crumbs. He goes, damn, dude, you know, had.
Top Lobster
A dog face like this. Well documented St. Christopher.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Look at a creature called St. Christopher. What is this?
Top Lobster
What are we talking. He was in night. He had the face of a dog. Like a great warrior.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
He doesn't like when we say cool stuff. It's just.
Top Lobster
No, that's. That's historical fact that people wrote this down. They were like, dude, this guy had a dog face. This historical fact of, like, clergy's arguing with each other, saying, like, do we preach to these people with dog faces? Because they were like, around back then.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Where are you guys wrong? I'm just saying, like, that's how he saw her.
Top Lobster
He saw her and he's like, look at this dog face lady.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Maybe that's why.
Top Lobster
Maybe he did not.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
For you.
Top Lobster
You like, for you.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Dog face lady.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
She referred to her. I'm not doing this.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Okay, but there's the pattern, right? The pattern is humbling yourself immensely. And, like, it's not for my own righteousness.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I love that you just pulled that into this passage.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Right? Like, there's patterns. That's what I do. I recognize patterns.
Top Lobster
That's.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
And while I was speaking and praying and confessing my sin in the sin of my people Israel, and presenting my supplication before the Lord my God, for the holy mountain of my God. Yeah. While I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I'd seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fight fly, swiftly touched me about the time of the evening oblation. And he informed me and talked with me and said, oh, Daniel, I'm now come forth to give you skill and understanding. Here we go again. It's not his intellect, spirit realm stuff, dude. At the beginning of your supplications, the commandment came forth and I'm come to show you, for thou art greatly beloved. Beloved. Therefore understand the matter and consider the vision. Okay, I have to say a thing. This Next. What is it? 24, 25, 26. These next four verses, some say, is like the most crazy passages in all of scripture. The most crazy four verses, it spells out in such a detailed thing. Okay, but that's not what I want to talk about. I want to talk about. In verse 23, the angel shows up and says, you're greatly beloved, bro. The circles that I run in and have, Kevin, bro, we love you.
Top Lobster
They're like. We're like a big fan of Daniel.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
That's what they're saying.
Top Lobster
Did they say that to David?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No. Why do we keep getting into this with David?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
It's just a question.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You don't think this is crazy that angel showed up, said, bro, like we watch you. Like we live in the unseen realm. You know how you guys watch the stuff called football? Like we do that. Like we're watching in the earth and bro, we love you.
Top Lobster
What does it mean that we're like, like we're gonna give you mad skill and up.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
He's going to give him skill and understanding.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's dope.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Skill would be. How to apply that understanding would be my guess. Like, if you have this understanding, I.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Was gonna think we're not gonna give.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You this understanding so you can go win debates with the reformed and the Pentecostal and the Baptist. No, no, no. We're going to give you this understanding so you have skill and know what to do with it.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
So you think like maybe climbing really fast.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Can you guys just acknowledge that the angel showed up and said, bro, in heaven, we love you.
Top Lobster
That is cool.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I love that.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Do you know the passage in Acts where it's like 19, where the seven sons of Skiva, the exorcist, they go and they start casting out demons and they cast them out in the name of Jesus, who Paul preaches. Like they didn't have a relationship with.
Top Lobster
God, but they knew, they don't know you.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
They thought that Paul was using some incantation or some spell. So just by, just by saying it like this in the name of Jesus, who Paul preaches. And the demon said, yeah, we know Jesus and we know Paul. We don't know you. We're gonna whoop your ass is what they. What ends up happening. The demon beats up all seven of them.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But this is because he doesn't know Jesus. He's just using this guy that this guy talks about.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
The point is the demon knew Paul. All I'm trying to say is like, if there's a way we could live our life where heaven knows us, hell knows us. Do I really care how many likes I get on the post? Do I really care what my so called reputation is among people? Am I really, like so concerned about like what people and what the earth thinks of me? Like, if one of the options is like, angels are potentially watching my life and going, bro, we love that guy.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I think angels like they watch match us, but they're like a lot of.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
The times they're just like, yeah, they probably are, but not Daniel. They're like, dude, this is our guy. Demons are like, bro, like, yeah, we gotta do whatever we can Take Paul out. And just like they did to try to take Daniel out, they try to get this law put in place so that they could get Daniel thrown in the lion's den.
Top Lobster
Let me ask you a weird question also. But they didn't say that about David, though. But they. Daniel for sure. But it's true when. So they're using the sons of Skiva, they're using incantations. So I don't know.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I'm just saying they're saying it in a way that's not like. That's not how it goes down. You don't just use Jesus name if you don't know. Known.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Right.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It doesn't work like that. I guess it'd be the same as if, like, some lady went in the bank and tried to sign a check, like, from me using my last name. And the bank is like, you know, calls the cops and says, yeah, there's. She. This chick's trying to use his name. It's not her name. Right. She gets arrested. Same thing. Like, you can't just start using Jesus name if you're not married to him. If you're not the bride of Christ, it's like the same thing.
Top Lobster
It sounds like how people. Like how people would use the Bible to. To do incantations. Like. Like this is like.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I'm sure some people do. I'm sure some people try to use it as a formula. I mean, I know, like, it's kind of creepy. Even in the church. It's like seven steps to better finances and six steps to a better marriage. That's wild. Do you think it depths to a better church and, like, they do that. There's like, these weird things that I'm not saying. That's like, totally not biblical. If a man goes in the scripture and does pull out, like, seven things that are really.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I'm not saying it's wrong, but a lot of times you see it. They're just trying to sell books, bro. Bro.
Top Lobster
They're like, removal of God from the.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, there's always that. There's all that. That's what a lot of American Christianity is. Is. Is like, I want the benefits of God without God.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
It reminds me of people that have, like, a terrible spiritual encounter and then call on Christ and it doesn't work. And then they're. You're left to be like, well, why doesn't it work? And it's like, I don't know.
Top Lobster
Yeah. But it's also sucks to tell them, like, well, you didn't do it hard enough.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Dude, like, no, no, no. The thing is, is, like, he doesn't know what's in anything. He didn't owe you that. Whatever you were asking for, he didn't owe you that. Like, what are we talking about? Oh, I prayed for this, and I didn't get it. He didn't owe you that to begin with. What are we talking about? This is a strange thing for people, man. They're like, well, I prayed for this. I didn't get it. Well, who gave you the assumption that you were owed that?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, I'm talking specifically about having, like, a. A spiritual encounter with something. This is something we talk about on the show a lot. It's something.
Top Lobster
That's what we. What we butted heads with Timothy Albarino about.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Because, yeah, Timothy Alberino's like, you can call. Call on Krishna, and Krishna will stop it sometimes.
Top Lobster
Yeah. And we were like, why do you wear that hat? Actually, you're indoors.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
In my encounters, well, Timothy Alvarino was always fire, bro. I mean, I always watch this stuff a long time ago, but I don't. What do you mean?
Top Lobster
He got into the argument of, like, he was. He was saying that, well, the name of Jesus doesn't stop alien encounters all the time. I have, you know, spoken to many people who've said that, and it's like, okay, maybe that's right.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
But like, yeah, just like the seven sons of skis. He would try to use his name, and it didn't work.
Top Lobster
Well, yeah, but his reasoning. His reasoning was then to extrapolate, well, therefore, aliens are not demons. There are brothers. And then that gets into weird.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Aliens aren't brothers.
Top Lobster
Not me. I didn't say that.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No. Did Tina the Alvarino say that?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
You watch the show. You gotta watch the show.
Top Lobster
Shout out to blurry creatures. They just followed me yesterday. So I don't mean to talk any kind of bad stuff about the guys that you write.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
They don't follow me, so I can still talk.
Top Lobster
It is what it is. Yeah, I was gonna ask you too. So when you're using these incantations, you think there's a. Incantation, spellcraft, witchcraft. There has.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
There's.
Top Lobster
It seems like there is a physical ramifications for that. Like, I was just reading about Saul, but he goes, so the witch at Endor, which of Endor. And he's like, God's not answering me. And then she's like, yeah, and he gets killed afterward. It's like, did he get killed because of that, or was that a prophecy?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, dude, watch his life, bro. That's just like, he hit rock bottom there. He says somewhere in there to David, he says, I played the four fool. And like, that's like. That's his life in one sentence, bro. That dude played the full. He probably had the greatest loss of any man in history. I don't know. That's a big statement. He had one of the greatest losses of any human who's ever existed. He had the kingdom of Israel, bro. Like, he was the king of Israel. And he lost it, bro. For disobedience. Not for raping and murdering. Not for, like, all the crazy, like, the bad sins. For disobeying the word of God. And this dude's life just goes straight down because of that.
Top Lobster
Okay, all right. I just.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I'm seeing if God sends one evil spirit to him. Most people aren't ready for that. God sends an evil spirit to plague them. Yeah, we're not getting into all that. We can do that another time, because right now we're in Daniel.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Okay, can we continue?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, I'm gonna read 24 through 27, but I don't have any wonderful insight on this. I just want to say that up.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Front, like, so should we do it interruption free? Should me and Top let's. Hey, why don't we shut up?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay. 70 weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city. To finish the transgression and to make an end of sins, and to make reconcil conciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most holy. Know, therefore and understand that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem under the Messiah, the prince shall be seven weeks and three score and two weeks. The street shall be built again in the wall even in troubleless times. And after three score and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself. And the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city, city and the sanctuary. And the end thereof shall be with a flood. And under the end of the war, desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week. And in the midst of the week, he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease. And for the overspreading of abominations, he shall make it desolate even until the consummation. And that determined shall be poor upon the desolate.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Geez, man.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
So there's a dude, Sir Robert Anderson, I think is his name.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Name.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
And Chuck Missler references him and I read the book. I read Sir Robert Anderson's book. I got in the library. It's got stuff underlined in it and stuff. Like, I thoroughly went through it and it did spell this out. Exactly how this went down from the decree that went out, which I think can be found in, like, Nehemiah and Ezra. When they were told to go back under Cyrus. Pretty sure it was under Cyrus. They were told to go back and build Jerusalem. And Sir Robert Anderson does the math on it and spells it out in the timeline. Timeline to where this all perfectly spells out to where Jesus comes riding in on the donkey.
Top Lobster
Yeah, it's like 300 and something.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
But it's just not my thing. It's just not like I'm not, like, qualified to explain it.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Is that what your dad was talking about this morning? 483 years.
Top Lobster
483 years. Yeah, my dad was. He's on. He's on this.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
So.
Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
All that.
Top Lobster
All that timeline leads up exactly to that moment where he walks through. That's like my dream. It's about Jesus walking through the. The gates.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Look at how he's just. He's just exhausted.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, I thought.
Top Lobster
Because.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, people were like, hey, can you get him to do one episode where they don't hit the dream button? Oh, no, I try. And I got close. I got close.
Top Lobster
We added a second one because of that.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
There's no way we can't get.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Are there any other buttons?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, don't play the button. So not. We'll play them Toad. Okay.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Meet Toad.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's gonna be great.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Going into 10.
Top Lobster
Yeah, we have this one of Toad. Oh, I can't wait for you to meet Toad.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Is.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
He's a genius. Like, is it intellect? His IQ is, like, off the charts.
Top Lobster
Check this out. We have a. We have a continuous stutter of Toad. And it's just. We'll go in perpetuity until we stop. I do it sometimes when he's talking underneath him, and it's very, very. Just jarring.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Let me just tell you, when you meet him, you have to resist the urge to pick him up and cradle him like a baby and kiss him on the forehead.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Who says bass?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's Toad.
Top Lobster
Toad. We have a lot of Toad drops.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Toad's fantastic. You're going to love them.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay, so do we go into 10, or are you like, oh, we gotta cut it short.
Top Lobster
We're at two hours. What do you think?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Do we do questions? Can we do more questions?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
If we don't go into 10, we get more questions. I Was fasting, you know, because I thought we were gonna start the show at 10.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, that's my bad. I feel bad.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
And now all I have is Kabbalah juice in me. Oh, this is a weird flavor too, by the way.
Top Lobster
Yeah, it's like light, but.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
No, this one tastes.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It's because you like sugary drinks, bro.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I don't like sugary things.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Those are sugar.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I'm trying to lose weight.
Top Lobster
We have a question from Brandon Williams.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Brandon.
Top Lobster
Hi Brandon. What do you think? What does Matt think about the great prostitute in the book of Revelation? Some people think it's a certain religious group. I think it's all religion taking us away from the personal relationship with God. I wonder your thoughts.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I kind of don't disagree with them. Yeah. The woman, the woman that rides the beast. Yeah. The horror from Revelation, bro. I don't know who he's referring to. I could take a guess that he's referring to the so called Catholic system and the dude, Dave Hunt has the book called A Woman Rides the Beast and it breaks that down like so clear, bro. From. From Catholic writing, not from accusations. Like from Catholic writing. He. He only references Catholic writing and says, look, this spells it out. He breaks it down. It's a book this big. It's rad. We have it in the library. A woman rides the beast. That's probably what he's referring to into. But he's probably right. And I think I do agree with him that it's like that and more that like that Catholic system, it's a big amalgamation. Kind of just wraps up even more of the like, like just the false church. Like the false church is what's going to take people astray.
Top Lobster
Yeah. Also I think the inclusion of the, the idols in the Catholic Church being representation of representations of deities from these other religions. So sure, we can say it's all religions. You could say it's like it is that that one kind of does tie it up.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Kind of always been that like all of those false religions are kind of wrapped up in the Catholic system, bro. Like if you go to the Vatican and you're just looking around, you're just like, bro, what in the world does any of this have to do with the Bible?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Like what are we talking about? This is madness.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Shout out to Brandon Williams.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Great.
Top Lobster
Good question, good question.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Sounds like a nice guy.
Top Lobster
Evan Hole asked a question about Solomon. I don't know if I want to get into it. Yeah. Evan Hole was at the last Bohemian Girl. He wants to know everything about Solomon. I think we should just cover that another time. We're gonna to have a studio where we can talk to Matt a lot more. Whenever he's allowed to. When his wife says it's fine.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, she's not like that.
Top Lobster
Yeah, so now she's not. She's super cool. When. When he. He's allowed to.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
When he's allowed to. Right.
Top Lobster
Okay.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, I got responsibilities. You guys do podcasts for a living and play time and jokes and I have to, like, pay bills and work in a coffee shop. It's way different.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
This is a lot of responsibility, Matthew.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You guys have, like, is it two.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
T's or one T?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
There's only ever.
Top Lobster
Oh, this is the story I wanted to tell you guys.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
What about Solomon, though? Can we just say a thing about.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
No, we're not allowed to.
Top Lobster
No, go ahead before we do it. So you're like, who is spelled single T, Matthew?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
I was like, yeah, what a stupid name. There is a guy, and I almost killed him. Accidentally. Almost went to jail.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Because of his name?
Top Lobster
No. Well, partially. We.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
We.
Top Lobster
We were playing a game and I put citroma laxative in his Sprite. He drinks it. We sit there for an hour as a prank. Didn't work, so me and my cousin were like, let's put more. So we basically just put a whole thing in Citroma and we told him it was old Sprite and we challenged him to a chugging contest. And the guy was kind of a douchebag.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
He was like, yeah, I think he deserved it.
Top Lobster
I'm the best drink. No, he didn't deserve it at all. I'm the best drink of. He chugs. So now it's like two and a half bottles of citroma laxative. The dude was on the bathroom for a week and a half. It was bad. Like on death's door.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Did you ever tell him it was you?
Top Lobster
He found out. He want. He was gonna. He was gonna kill us. Like, he. Oh, yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
And wait, how did he find out?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Every time I think you guys are almost normal, then you tell a story like this, I'm like, no, this is my.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
This had somebody drink laxatives as a prank. I was 18.
Top Lobster
I was 18.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Come on, Matt.
Top Lobster
But yeah, single T. Matt, I'm sorry about.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, good for you. You're making amends. You're growing, bro. Since the last episode. When you just hold grudges against people. Like, I love that.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
He does hold a lot of grudge.
Top Lobster
He never deserved.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
For no reason.
Top Lobster
It was supposed to be a joke, but the Thing is, it didn't work fast enough. So we're like, maybe this doesn't work.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
And they're like, it's not a crazy.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
That's a problem with mushrooms and LSD for some people, too, bro. You start, you take a little, like, nothing's happening. Next thing you know, you're like flying on a dragon.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
They do that with edibles, too. Edibles will do that. But when I type in Matthew, autocorrect will correct it to 1T. So I'm assuming just call me Matt Dambro. I just want to know how many T's it is.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It's two T's, bro.
Top Lobster
Thoughts on praying to Jesus versus praying to the Father, or is it the same in your opinion?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's an interesting. Can I just preface this with my lack of knowledge? When I pray to God, I pray in Jesus's name, but I. But I talk to God the Father, because.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
And I'm like. It seems to me that from what I've learned, like, Jesus is the way.
Top Lobster
And I go. I go, hey, your son asked me to talk to you. Like, at the end, your son said it was all right.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
So everything I said before, but, like.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
The way my mind.
Top Lobster
Why do we say, in Jesus name, amen?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Because to me, it's like, Jesus is the way. And whoever denies the sun denies the Father. And Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. And it's like there's the narrow path. So I keep getting this idea of, like, the path is through Jesus.
Top Lobster
Why do we even say Jesus that word?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, apparently it sounds weird or something. I don't know.
Top Lobster
But, yeah, it's not the name, but.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I know the intent is there. I'm talking about.
Top Lobster
About the sun.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I'm talking about. He's just doing the face. He's not doing the face. Matthew. I'm stupid. I don't know anything. You're supposed to be reassuring over here.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I don't know. In my walk, I got used to calling God. God. What? However anybody addresses him. Right on. Biblically speaking, Jesus does say, ask the Father in my name. Does that mean that you. You say the word in Jesus name? Sometimes I pray and I do say in Jesus name if I'm praying over a meal or praying with people. Yeah, sure. Yeah. In the name of Jesus. I think there's a lot more to it than just saying those words.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
No, I think it's an intent thing.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It's like, yeah, it's on behalf of Jesus, the bride of Jesus. I'm the bride of Christ. My Heart. My prayer is coming on behalf of him. Not from anything good in me.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
It's like a recognition of what, what Jesus's life did for us in order to, to get access to salvation.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. I can only approach God, God because I'm linked with Jesus. Yeah. But we do need to address this. Where Jesus is at right now is seated at the right hand of the Father, interceding for us on our behalf.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, people think he's in the North Pole. He's above the North Pole, where the.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Holy Spirit is, is on the earth, interceding for us, living inside of us, even, even activating and bringing forth our prayer. I don't know, to be totally honest, and I'm sure there's some theologians that want to crush me for, for this. I pray and just say God, Lord. Like the things I'm praying about this morning was. I was just saying God. Yeah, like I, like, I don't know.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I just, I say Father God.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I love that. That's great. And if people don't say Father God, that's okay too. As long as it's real to you. If it's just you learned that from some system and you're just.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
No, no, no, no. Like I had no system at all.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. So if in your heart you know him as Father God and that's how you talk to him. Amen. He knows his sheep and his sheep know his voice. And we as his sheep, we know how to communicate with, with them. And so like some people say Jesus in Chinese and some people say in Spanish. What about people?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah, what about people who say Baby Jesus? But there is a whole bunch of people that say that. Right? Like there's a people.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
That's what. Why would you be praying the baby? He's not a baby.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I'm not wrong in saying that. That's a thing though that people do, right?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I don't. I have no. You guys live in another world for me. I don't know.
Top Lobster
Next question, next question. Are you guys aware of the connection between the writing on the wall and Daniel Menimen upon harshan and a seven year cycle of 2, 550 days? It turns out that the writing on the wall is. This is a long. Are you kidding me?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
J Raimi Jay Remy?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
The short answer is no. We could just say no because unless you guys are familiar with it.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
No, no.
Top Lobster
He's going into Yom Kippur. This is stuff for Lisa that maybe she would tell him that, okay, this is a lot to read. I'm not gonna Yom Kippur.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
You gave me a Kabbalah drink filled with carbonation. Last.
Top Lobster
I. Last question. I don't want to keep Matt here forever.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, I'm down. Always down, bro.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, I'm hungry.
Top Lobster
All right, so one. Just one more question, then we can. We can wrap it up.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Why don't you serve bacon, egg, and cheese at the standard coffee shop?
Top Lobster
That's actually a good question.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
We can figure that out.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Okay.
Top Lobster
We can figure it out. Lucia says, I'm curious to know if Matt has had any supernatural experiences.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I don't like the way you just did that.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's. I like. I like this. My.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, I think. Feel like you just perked up, though. You just.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Well, remember when we had that conversation and we said. Said that the supernatural moments in your life aren't, like, insignificant, that those are maybe the most important aspects of. Of your. We said that in, like, a previous episode. Maybe it was like, the second, like, a story.
Top Lobster
Something crazy that happened to you.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Those aren't just footnotes. Those are, like, actually, so. So. Yeah, man.
Top Lobster
We have music for it. Nothing.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Don't look.
Top Lobster
Who?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, turn it up. This is the Eye of the Tiger.
Top Lobster
Whose spooky stories you don't have.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Have any. No, come on, man. No, I'm not gonna get into this.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Didn't you do a method of trash can?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, but that's not a supernatural experience. I mean, that's like meth in a trash can. Yeah, I smoked meth with my uncle when I was 15, and I stayed up eight days. Like, I don't know if that's what you're talking about.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
And then what did you see?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
He's like, I saw my uncle setting up booby traps in his backyard because he thought people were, like, spying on him. He was a wild ass, like, Vietnam war vet, bro. I stayed up eight days, and I was tweaking and shaky and, yeah, it was crazy. I think that's her question. No, just saying, like, yeah, I enter into some supernatural stuff, but it's not anything relevant to talk about.
Top Lobster
Of course it is.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
It's a life. Is. This is the. A supernatural experience that we're living?
Top Lobster
You know what?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Matt is just, like, a supernatural experience.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Like, not the last time we did the podcast, but the podcast before it. Like, I drove out of here, and on my way home. Home, I was like, what am I.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Doing with these guys?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, no. You guys are gonna make jokes, and this is, like, super serious.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Which.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
But am I gonna do it?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I promise I won't make the last.
Top Lobster
Time we did it?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Not the last time, but the time before I was driving away, and I thought back to when I was 15 and smoke meth and stay up eight days, when I got kicked out of my house, when I lived on the street, like, eight months. And then even. Just all the terribleness that came on my life, even when I was first, like, finding Jazz and the beginning of our relationship, all these other things. And then even before that, when I was, like, a kid and I had problems, and I was thinking, like, if God came to me back then and was like, bro, I'll give you whatever you want, like, I wouldn't even have said, okay. God, I want to have a wife that loves me and some kids that love me, and, like, I want to be normal and have a family that doesn't hate each other. We all just love each other, and we just have fun together, and we love. Like, we're just doing our thing, and we're all happy together, and we can pay our bills, and we have food and water and electricity, and I live on a farm, and I have a coffee shop, and I just got done preaching the gospel on a podcast, and I just. I start crying, and I was like, I wouldn't even have asked for that. Like, this is better than anything I ever would ask for. Like, I don't have any other thing that I ever would want. There's no, like, dollar amount I would want. There's no, like, other status in society I would want. There's, like, none of these other things. Things. And then me and the Lord were just super tight in that moment. I was just saying, like, lord, I love you. Like, I'm. This is way beyond. If I died right now, I would be okay to look to heaven and say, we had a good run. Like, we had a good run, man.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Why do you think we were going to say a joke about.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You guys always joke, man. But I. That's, like, been become this really important thing to me, especially with Daniel getting thrown in the lines then is like, yo, if I find myself in a scenario where it's like, bro, you're gonna die right now. I want to make sure I'm in a spot where I can look ahead heaven and say, we had a good run. Yeah, like. Like, we. This was cool, man. You didn't owe me any of this. This is way more than I ever asked for. This is way more than I ever expected. This is way more than I ever thought my life would have ever turned into, and I'm just incredibly grateful for that. And I feel like, that takes you into, like, a very supernatural, spiritual intimacy with God where you're coming to terms with, like, seeing your life for what it really is and what it could have been.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I didn't smoke meth with my uncle, but. No, why you gotta do that for?
Top Lobster
He just poured his heart out.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That was incredible. Finish. Go ahead, man. But when I was younger and I was going through it and the audience knows and they're tired of hearing about it, but I, I used to pray, and I, I didn't, like, I was praying to God, and I wasn't sure if, like, the Bible was totally it, but I kind of leaned in that direction and yada, yada, but I would, I would literally just pray that it would be okay one day. Not even, like, not even good.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, I can relate.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Okay.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
That's what I'm saying, man.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Geez, man. All I ever wanted to do is do a pie. That's not nice, Federal.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No, bro, I know exactly what you're saying. I remember just being like, if I'm just not homeless, like, I'll be good.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Okay?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah. Like, if I can just grow up and I'm not homeless.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
And then.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Now what I do is I, I, I get to explore. I publicly pursue the truth, which is.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Like, you guys have a good thing going.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Who gets to do.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Nobody does. That's why you should be very grateful every day.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I was trying to explain to my son yesterday, because I'm like, listen, let's let. We'll do the numbers. We'll go on Google. What percentage of people are podcasters?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Right?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
And it's like.0005%, something like that, roughly in the world. And then, and then it's like, now there's a whole bunch of podcasters, comedy podcasts. There's history podcasters, this and this. What about strictly the pursuit of. Of the truth? That's. That's what this show is based off of. Right? And we, we refined it, and it's through the biblical lens, but it's the pursuit of the truth. What percentage of people alive have ever had the.
Top Lobster
The.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
The were ever blessed enough to do the. Do this and have it be the. Their sole focus?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
It's pretty cool, you guys.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Nobody. Yeah, nobody gets to do this, but.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You have to be grateful for that. Of course. You have to get up every day and even, like. Yeah, you have all that. But not just that. You go in this thing and you move the curtain and you go like this. And you make the temperature on the water, any temperature you want. You have fresh, clean water, any temperature. You have unlimited food and water and electricity. You go in this giant building with this box on wheels and you throw food in it from all around the planet. And then you just like, swipe this card and you go home and eat whatever you want.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Dude. It's insane.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
On the wall. And make whatever temp you want in your house and in your car. And you can go to places, you can fly to places. Yeah, but what do you have to begin to be grateful for these things and recognize you could have been born in a time of famine, a time of war. You could have been born in some very terrible scenarios.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
When I was a kid, I used to say that, like, I'd be like five years old and I would just be walking down the street, my mom. And I'm thinking, like, because you have. Have an awareness of war and like, what a third world country. You don't know it's a third one, but, you know, this is. It sucks in other places. And I would just be walking down the street, Remember being in Elizabeth, New Jersey, which is a weird place to feel like this. And I'm walking down the street and I'm like, I was born in America. Like, there's like, other. Like, I've seen tv.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
You know, I've seen like these kids with the distended bellies and it's like, you know, and they're playing a Sarah wheel, whatever the song is.
Top Lobster
We all have this stuff to a certain level, but it's like, I don't mean to be hard on. On other people, but you have these things, these base level things that we all have access to. Are you just going to take that in life? And that's what you're like, oh, I got it. Like, we gotta just buy more. Like, I got all the food, I got lights. I could turn my, my TV on. I was like, no, no, that's stuff that you have now. How are you going to use that to do the next thing that maybe you're supposed to do? Because we're already, like, extremely blessed in this country at this level. Like, my, my parents were. They built my dad as a post office guy. He retired. He had like a house, middle class. I was like, all right, I could do the same thing as him. But no, like, I'm. I'm at that level. I'm gonna spin that to the next thing. And then my kids better have. It's the same idea.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Well, yeah, but you just don't want it to become in the material realm because that's a never ending. That's if you know, like wealthy people.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
People like, no, he's saying, like, build something.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, Amen. I'm agreeing. I'm saying, yeah, as long as you're not tying it to like, like material or what Jesus called mammon. Like, you can't serve God and mammon. And where it gets tricky because we have unlimited everything. As you start comparing yourself to the neighbor or you start to have this thought. You watch people all the time like this, man, if I just had this car, I'd be good. Oh, yeah, but then you get that car and you're like, yeah, but if I just had this house, then.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But you hear that, like, people that have made it like these, these elites of like, I have everything and I've, you know, every materialistic possession that I could ever dream of, and it's still not enough. And like, you hear that.
Top Lobster
That'S not.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
But because you're a spirit realm being yours, your spirit is like an eagle stuck in a cage, bro. And it's like if you were spending your whole life trying to put like, cool, like Christmas lights stuff on the cage, trying like cat stuff onto the cage and you're like making the cage beautiful. It's like, no, no, no. That you're. And then the eagle's still stuck in the cage cage, but it's got a tricked out cage with like spinning rims on it. Like, cool Christmas lights.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
My eagle has like all kinds of stuff.
Top Lobster
I think it's about creation. Like when I The.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
So gotta get out of the cage is all I'm saying.
Top Lobster
Yeah, but, but, but that lets you create stuff. That's what God put us here for. So, like, I have a lot of cool stuff, but I created my kids. When I look at them, I'm like, that's the coolest thing ever.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Look at this guy.
Top Lobster
He just beat up another kid in jiu jitsu.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's cool.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Choke him. Choke him.
Top Lobster
That whatever we built here, the. This is like the coolest thing about the show, the podcast is that it was nothing. It's an idea. It's an idea that you, you make. If someone was handed. If someone handed this to me and it was already like the size it was, and they're like building like, I don't really have. It's just like, it's a weird thing.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Like, you know, it's rad to be able to create. And that's like part of our nature is that we're made in the nature of God. And like, yeah, we have the Ability to create. Like, he could have said, adam, here's some seeds for lettuce. Here's some seeds for an apple tree. Tree. Here's some seeds for babies. But that's not what he said, right?
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
He said, bro, I got this really rad way for y' all to get babies.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But you could tell, though, because you could look at, like, the Kardashians, and you could see, like, they're not really happy people. Right. And what I. One of the realizations, too, is, like, in this time, even, like, the average, like, homeless person has a cell phone.
Top Lobster
It's.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
It's really wild. Even kings used to, like, you know, like, they would poop off a slide, and it would fall out of a tank tower, and they would be, like.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Cold in the tower.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Like, even if it's a king, right? Like, they'd be like, they cold. They'd be cold.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Way better than kings. That's what you're saying? Yes, kings.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
It's just a weird.
Top Lobster
The question is, like, all right, great. You have all that stuff. Well, what, are you gonna go and create with it now? Are you just gonna be.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Or you could be, like, totally super cool and just like, I'm not gonna create anything. I'm gonna dedicate all my life to just, you know, spreading the gospel. Well, I guess that's crazy.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
That's the ultimate creation, right. Where we're like, we need cameras and lights. Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You give all that back to the Lord and go, I. To begin with, I was just a naked, bloody baby. And then somehow I accumulated a bunch of stuff and things on the earth. Yeah, but, Lord, I want to get with you. Like, what do you want to do?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
These ballpark.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Let him do it. Let him do it. You know, if you start, like, dreaming up what you're going to do for God, that's not a great idea. But if you just submit to God and say, I'm down for whatever, then that's different.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
We have to start taking you on your path.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
We'll kind of, like, butt up against something. Be like, maybe we'll. We'll do this, and. Because it's like, you're inspired to do a thing, and, like, you kind of try to refine it in your mind. Like, okay, I feel like I'm gonna do this thing. What does this thing look like? And then we keep finding out, like, almost, but not quite. And then, like, so we'll. We'll meet resistance, and we'll, like, pull back for a second, and then all of a sudden, something else Will open up. That'll rhyme. Like what we thought we were supposed to do, but we just weren't supposed to do it that way. It was like, close dummies. But this is really what it is. And.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, sure. Yeah. Can you.
Top Lobster
Could you take the people out on something like that? Like a lesson like that of a. I don't know, direction?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But just don't do it in a way where it feels like you're yelling.
Top Lobster
Do it how you want to do it.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah.
Top Lobster
You do a lot of camera.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Yeah, we can do it on, like, whatever I want.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Whatever you want to say, dude.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
What's on your heart? What's going on?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Dude, this was really on my heart. No, come on.
Top Lobster
All right. No, no.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Nobody likes the corny stuff.
Top Lobster
Also, sorry, before we go, super chat from Zela Morales. I'm ignorant. What does the Bible say about counting according a woman? Does it. Does it explain it the correct way?
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
I don't know.
Top Lobster
Oh, geez.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You gotta marry her, bro. You gotta marry. You can't have sex outside the covenant.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Don't do that.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
So, yeah.
Top Lobster
Don'T read the comments, Matt.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
All right, Matt, take us out on a thing. Whatever you want. You could read a thing. You could. It's your show.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
What are you guys saying?
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
They're.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
They're broken people.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
We're collecting broken people. We're broken people, too.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
No wonder why he's like this in the show. Because he's watching. Watching that the whole time.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
I like what they say.
Top Lobster
They say.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
They say fun stuff.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
What. What is that guy.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Oh, no. Yeah, I'm reading some of this stuff. No, no, don't read their names. You know what?
Top Lobster
I'm gonna take that away from you. Yeah.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Okay, here's the thing.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Okay.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
We've been talking a lot about being in this covenant with God, right? And then what you do with it. And this is just so basic and so simple. This is so basic.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
But please keep it. I like that.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Basically, I'm just gonna read it like this. Therefore, whosoever hears these sayings in mine and do with them, I will liken him unto a wise man which built his house up upon a rock, and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat upon that house, and it fell not because it was founded upon a rock. And everyone that hears these sayings in mine and do it them not shall be likened unto a foolish man which built his house upon the sand, and the rain descended and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat upon that house, and it fell and great was the fall of it. That's how Jesus wraps up the Sermon on the Mount. He says, okay, all of the stuff I've taught about the culture of our kingdom and the reality of, of life, this is what it all comes down to. People are going to hear the sayings of Jesus. If you, if people are listening to the podcast, they're hearing the sayings of Jesus. We're talking about the scripture this whole time. You're either going to apply this to your life or you're not going to apply it to your life. Am I supposed to look at the.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Thing you could look at? Hey, look wherever you want.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
You're either going to apply it to your life or you're not going to apply it to your life. This is all it comes down to. And I know we've talked before about the most dangerous time and place to be a Christian Christian. And we've said it's America. And initially maybe you guys thought, oh no, it's Rome or it's Ephesus or it's, you know, wherever. This is why it's the most dangerous. I'm going to go back a little bit from what he just said, back to verse 21 and Matthew 7. Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he that doeth the will of my Father, which is in heaven, many will say to me in that day, lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name? And in your name cast out demons, devils in your name done many wonderful works, and then will I profess unto them, I never knew you depart from me, you that work iniquity. That's the most dangerous passage in the scripture. And that's why I say this is the most dangerous time period to live in. And I just pray that nobody that can hear my voice right now ends up as one of those people who ends up running to the Lord and saying, hey, Lord, Lord. And then he turns to them and says, I don't even know you. I don't even know know you. So please just be very serious about your life. I know it's fun and playtime and I love the fun and playtime too. And I love to like preach the gospel in any way possible. But be very serious about this, about entering into this relationship with God. Take this very serious and become close and intimate with him and do it through the scripture. Get your alone time with God. Get quiet, don't be over busy. You get too busy and then you can't hear his voice. Be very serious about making time for God. God where you're not multitasking. I love. I love being on the treadmill and talking to God on the treadmill. I love being in the food forest and talking to God when I'm in the food forest. But make time where you're not multitasking. You're just alone with God and you're saying here I am, Lord, I want to get with you and I want to obey you and I want to live according to your word, God. Amen.
Raven (Daily Corbeau)
Amen.
Top Lobster
Amen guys, it's been another good episode. Until next time, don't forget to obey. Subscribe, submit and comply. Thanks Matt. We'll see you.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a problem box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.
Top Lobster
You can persuade that what they see.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
With their eyes is what there is.
Top Lobster
To see.
Matt (main speaker, Bible teacher)
Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation. The bigger picture and they have.
In this rich, wide-ranging episode, TopLobsta and Raven welcome Bible teacher Matt Hepner for an exploration of biblical prophecy, the possible existence of pre-Adamites, current end-times patterns, and a deep dive into chapters 8 and 9 of the Book of Daniel. Interspersed with lively audience Q&A, the trio tackle topics like the nature of the church, biblical authority, scriptural interpretation, and personal spiritual journeys—all with humor, candor, and an accessible, conspiratorial edge.
"Humility isn't saying, like, oh, I'm a loser. I'm an idiot. Humility is ... you're not talking about you ... You're the least important person in the room now." –Matt (86:38)
"God lives inside me. Do you see what I'm saying? There's no, there's no ... religions that have such a thing." (73:06)
“If you have some great revelation and understanding given to you by God, that's not to go beat a guy in a debate. That's so you'll set your face to pray according to God's will and live accordingly.” (80:01)
“If you get so busy, you won't hear the subtle voice of God.” (104:03)
“Nobody does [what we do]. That’s why you should be very grateful every day.” – Matt, reflecting on the privileges of podcasting, daily comfort, and spiritual opportunity (135:59)
| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |------------|-----------------------------------------------------------------| | 06:09–11:53 | Organic church, critique of 501c3, early-church simplicity | | 15:28–18:43 | Non-canonical texts: Jasher, Enoch, bedtime reading analogy | | 22:17–30:37 | Pre-Adamite, gap theory, mysteries of Genesis | | 30:37–35:05 | Rainbow, language, co-opted biblical symbols | | 33:06–37:09 | Daniel’s dedication, spiritual readiness, real-world application| | 44:59–53:43 | Daniel’s vision of beasts, prophecy as pattern, historical parallels| | 39:05–43:13 | Tips for running organic Bible studies | | 77:02–84:38 | Daniel’s repentance, corporate vs. personal responsibility | | 84:07–88:43 | The challenge of mourning and spiritual empathy | | 98:11–104:08 | Covenant seriousness, warning against complacency | | 142:52–145:44 | Closing exhortation: obedience, real relationship with God |
Should Christians "take back" the rainbow?
"The rainbow belongs to God, bro. ... If people are gonna hijack the blessings of God for their own personal gain, that's on them." (30:57–31:49)
Were there people before Adam and Eve?
Matt is open: There's scriptural evidence of “something happening,” but warns against doctrinal dogmatism: "I'm not starting a new denomination that's based on pre Adamites." (30:37)
Advice on Bible translations and study:
Matt recommends referencing the Blue Letter Bible for comprehensive tools and advises prioritizing main scripture over extra-canonical works in serious study. (39:05–41:36, 64:27–65:02)
Connection between knowledge/intellect and spiritual growth:
“Revelation and insight comes through the spirit realm. It doesn’t come through the intellect… The church today is run on intellect. It’s very soulless.” (91:01–92:59)
On the Structure of the Early Church:
"You really don't need any money. They can meet in homes and have a Bible and study the word of God ... we've just made a money-making system."
— Matt Hepner (08:53)
On Non-Canonical Texts:
"Jasher’s cool, but... it’s so wild. Like, Jasher is so wild.”
— Matt Hepner (15:38)
On the Mystery of Pre-Adamites:
"Clearly people outside the Garden of Eden. ... To me, there was definitely something happening. If Adam’s 6,000 years ago, God was definitely doing something 6,001 years ago."
— Matt Hepner (28:14, 28:36)
On History & Prophecy Overlap:
“Historically, this is exactly what happened with the Medes and Persians. Greece came and destroyed them. That one notable horn from Greece, historically, is Alexander the Great. This happened.”
— Matt Hepner (46:38)
On The Importance of Practicing Faith Daily:
"If you’re not doing it now, if you’re not cultivating it right now, then, like, when the rubber meets the road, you’re not going to do it. You need to be doing it now."
— Matt Hepner (36:09)
On the Value of Obedience:
“People are going to hear the sayings of Jesus. ... You’re either going to apply this to your life or you’re not going to apply it to your life. This is all it comes down to.”
— Matt Hepner (143:55)
The episode balances insightful theological discussion with irreverent, personal humor. Serious themes—prophecy, repentance, spiritual responsibility—are delivered conversationally, with interruptions for jokes, asides, and pop culture references ("aliens are gay", "I've been sliding David Icke books into his library"). Audience questions drive the show and provide a direct pipeline for both deep dives and lighthearted banter.
This episode offers a vivid snapshot of the Nephilim Death Squad’s unique approach: blending scriptural depth, conspiratorial curiosity, authenticity, and comedic relief. Whether you're a Bible nerd, a prophecy junkie, or a skeptical truth-seeker, the episode encourages both humility and action: “Obedience is better than understanding. Just do it, bro. Like, nobody's doing anything by sitting around.” (106:52)