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The Raven: 005 - Joe Rogan's Dreams

Fri Nov 14 2025

In this wild Monday-morning edition of Nephilim Death Squad, The Raven (David Lee Corbo) tears into Joe Rogan’s “alien dream,” the rise of AI-generated demons, and what it all means for spiritual warfare in the digital age. From Loab, the haunting AI...

Summary

Podcast Summary: Nephilim Death Squad

Episode: The Raven: 005 – Joe Rogan’s Dreams
Date: November 14, 2025
Hosts: TopLobsta (Top Lobsta Productions), Raven (David Corbeau)
Special Guests/Callers: Mason, Astral, Matt from Oklahoma, and community emailers/voicemails

Episode Overview

This episode dives into the intersection of conspiracies, dreams, AI, and spirituality, all through a biblical lens. Centered around a recent Joe Rogan dream involving extraterrestrial beings, the hosts examine alien abductions, the demonic potential of AI, and audience feedback—from quirky road rage confessions to deep theological discussions. Casual banter, listener interactions, and an irreverent yet inquisitive tone create a lively, idea-rich episode.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Joe Rogan’s Alien Dream (09:44 – 16:06, 48:48 – 83:42)

Discussion: Hosts analyze a clip of Joe Rogan recounting his “most realistic and bizarre dream” of interacting with tall, thin beings with big heads and large eyes—which he relates to classical "alien gray" imagery.
Analysis: David riffs on Rogan’s well-known theory that “aliens are us from the future,” referencing the evolution of humanity lacking reproductive organs and communicating telepathically. He also critiques Rogan’s tendency to rationalize unexplained experiences as hallucinogenic or unimportant.
Notable Quote (Joe Rogan, 09:44):
“I was in some weird corridor... encountering these beings that look like people but very different. They were very thin and they were slightly on the tall side. And they had big heads, like larger than normal...”
Interpretation: The group debates whether such dreams are just subconscious manifestations, or real “astral” contact. David leans into the Jungian/Freudian layers—pointing out that persistent, meaningful-feeling dreams might signify something deeper (“your subconscious thinks it” – 16:06).
Further Discussion: The team speculates on the similarities between dream abduction narratives, DMT visions, and real-life spiritual/psychological phenomena.

2. AI as a Demonic/Spiritual Conduit (18:41 – 34:20, 43:45 – 51:14, 109:14 – 112:26)

Host Takes: The hosts discuss real-world glitches in AI image generation (e.g., Google AI inventing its own language; disturbing visual artifacts like "Loab"; Grok producing demonic imagery in response to benign prompts).
Audience Input: Chat participants and co-hosts bring up various stories and theories, including “Loab,” the recurring AI-generated female face with uncanny, unsettling features.
Biblical/Pagan Layer: David connects the feminine “Loab” archetype to a through-line in pagan—then Christian/Catholic—iconography: “divine feminine” manifestations as Ishtar, Lilith, Sophia, and their infiltration of spiritual systems.
Notable Quote (David, 24:44):
“There was one face that AI would continually generate. And... people speculate—‘That’s Sophia, that’s Lilith, that’s Ishtar’... this archetypical spirit masquerading in different names.”
Personal Anecdotes: David notes that “co-pilot always draws me as an older, more handsome man... any AI is almost unanimously made me black.” Insights on AI’s oddities are used as comic relief and springboards into metaphysical questions about digital entities as contemporary “demons.”
Listener Story: Megan Basham’s encounter with Grok producing a demonic image in response to editing a paragraph about Christian colleges and LGBTQ support led David to remark, “Ask for words and get this cursed image. Weird choice.”

3. Schizophrenia, Dreams, and the Nature of Spiritual Experience (15:58 – 18:12, 46:00 – 83:45)

Experiential Reality: Are abductions/demonic encounters in dreams “real” or just the subconscious at play? Co-hosts discuss “sleep paralysis,” hat man, and shadow people. David notes, “I was 17... I was still on the fence about whether or not it was purely a psychological phenomenon.”
Further Inquiry: The group discusses whether these entities need our organs or reproductive capacity, referencing “cattle mutilation” as possible evidence that non-human forces use biological material for hybridization—citing L.A. Marzulli’s research.
Notable Quote (David, 82:51):
“So you have this precedent for AI creating these strange things... Is AI a conduit for demons?”

4. Hilarious & Honest Listener Interactions

a) Road Rage and Public Shaming (41:10 – 61:25)

Segment: Mason, previously a guest, is humorously “publicly shamed” via email, chat, and live dialogue for her confessed road rage antics.
Examples: Listeners email with pithy or heartfelt advice, e.g.:
- “This little girl needs to chill before someone pulls her card. What a disappointment. I’m just glad Mason isn’t my daughter.”
- Donna writes about putting a Buddha on her dashboard to stay calm (“What started as setting a good example... has become a habit.”)
On-Air Dynamic: Mason vacillates between deflection, acceptance, and humor, while David leverages the teachable moment to discuss accountability, defensiveness, and the violent escalation of petty grievances.
Chorus from Chat/Voicemails: Asserts (with consensus!) that women have more road rage than men—Emily calls in, “Women in general have more rage. The road lets us dodge the accountability of acting like a rageful cunt.”

b) Parenting & Faith (91:08 – 93:23)

Listener John asks how to introduce his young children to Jesus. David responds with his approach: lead by example, plant seeds through natural conversation, and avoid forced structure, noting, “He sees that... the conversation never stops for me... it’s a natural exploration.”

5. Demons, Original Sin, and Theological Musings (109:14 – episode end)

Theological Clip: Dr. Taylor Marshall weighs in on “What are demons?”—positing that demons are fallen angels who failed their appointed task (per St. Thomas Aquinas), in contrast to “Enochian” views that demons are spirits of dead Nephilim.
David’s Take: Affirms biblical primacy over extra-canonical sources (“The cornerstone of my faith is Jesus Christ. Everything else can be moved around…”), contemplating how dogmatic differences (between Catholics, Protestants, Mormons) create needless division.
Notable Quote (David, 112:26): “Do you believe that Jesus was sent to pave our way to redemption, and that he died, and was resurrected, and ascended?... Who cares [about the rest]? Why would you then let it be this driving wedge...?”

Notable Quotes & Moments

David, on Rogan’s dream (10:24):
“Joe Rogan is the same height as me, and everybody is on the tall side to us, Joe. So I don’t know if that really carries any weight there.”
Emily, on AI mishaps (31:05):
“Why is it inherently demonic? You probably went to the image tab by accident.”
Chat, on Road Rage:
“Women have more road rage than men. Women have more rage, period.”
David, on teaching faith to his son (93:23):
“If I were to lock him in [like school] to teach him about God, he could easily come away resenting it. So... it’s a natural exploration.”
Father Chad Ripperger (clip, 109:16):
“[Demons] were created into a state of innocence... then they make a choice [for or against God]. Demons are the ones who refuse their assigned task: fallen angels.”
David, on denominational debates (112:26):
“I don’t know if it makes a lot of sense that God would be like, ‘ah, you believed that Godhead thing? Stupid. To hell with you.’”

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment | |------------|---------| | 09:44–16:06 | Joe Rogan’s ‘Alien Dream’ and interpretation | | 18:41–34:20 | AI as possible demonic/occult conduit; introduction to Loab, “AI demons” | | 41:10–61:25 | Listener emails & Mason’s road rage public shaming | | 82:51–83:45 | Hybridization theory – why “aliens” want our organs | | 91:08–93:23 | Parenting, faith, and raising kids to know Jesus | | 109:14–112:26 | Demonic origins: fallen angels vs. Nephilim spirits; denominational unity |

Tone & Style

Language/Tone: Irreverent, sarcastic, but sincere in query; listener-focused, responsive to live chat and emails.
Show Format: Bounces between meta-commentary, biblical references, conspiracy speculation, wit, and touching community engagement.

For New Listeners

This episode is a wild, thoughtful, and funny ride through conspiracies filtered by Christian faith. Whether discussing the symbolic nature of modern AI “demons,” the interpretive chaos of dream abductions, or the importance of accountability and virtue, the hosts keep things fresh, irreverent, and deeply engaging for conspiracy, theology, and podcast fans alike.

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Transcript

David Corbeau (0:00)

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Mason (0:16)

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David Corbeau (1:30)

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Mason (1:46)

Okay.

David Corbeau (1:46)

Yeah, totally. Winner, winner, chicken breakfast. I'm gonna have to keep this right here. Make sure every breakfast is a winner with the delicious new bacon, egg and chicken biscuit from AM P M. P M. Too much good stuff. Top Lobster Productions. The very word secrecy is repugnant in a free and open society. And we are, as a people, inherently and historically opposed to secret soc, the secret oaths, and the secret proceedings we decided long ago. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covet means for expanding its sphere of influence. On infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by instead of armies by day, Joe Rogan is getting blapped by interdimensional creatures and AI Is serving up new demonic Lore, we're going to talk about all that, plus we're going to scold Morgan. I'm sorry, Morgan Mason, for her road rage. We got a bunch of emails from the last episode that we did. I don't know if she's going to join us, but we are going to publicly shame her. A lot of you folks have written in, and it's been wonderful. Good morning, guys. Very happy to see you. Thank you for joining us. It is a very chilly Monday morning here in Florida. It's cold as shit, dude. And I know, you know, to the people from up north, you go, it's not that cold. Once you acclimate, once you acclimate to the warm weather, a little cold snap really throws you for a loop. Thank you guys for joining us. Before we get into the content, let's talk about where you can support the show if you should decide to do so. Boop. Patreon.com is a great place to do it. You can see we're constantly updating. We're in a transitionary period right now. I am going from male to female. No. I have tried to take some of the stuff off of Top Lops's plate, and, and, and, and I'm trying to get the Patreon up to date, so there's a little bit of a. Of a lapse. I got to get into the. The right work mode. So I know we're a little bit. We're lagging behind. Hopefully you guys bear with us. It's only going to be a day or so before this thing is, but probably later on today, everything will be fully updated. You can even see that there's Bohemian Grove footage. Is that like six hours? Might be six hours, actually. Let me go and check that out. Oh, no, that's just an hour of it. That's the one with. With Sam Tripoli. But all the Bohemian Grove footage exists on Patreon, so if you're ever interested in going back and seeing that, we still got to make all kinds of promos from that. And. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sam's Hyde. Sam Hyde's team hit us up and said, can you give us some footage so that we know what we're dealing with? Because we're trying to get him to headline the next event. And I'm like, sheesh, man, that means I got to produce that. Anyway, guys, patreon.com forward/nephilim death Squad. Great place to support the show. And if you're looking to support me directly at the bottom of the screen there, you'll see David Corbeau 7 on cash, app on Venmo on PayPal. That's a great place to do it. Guys. Later on in the show, we're going to open up the lines in the second half of the show. After a brief intermission, a pee break. And if you want to call in live, 321-209-8551 is the place that you can. You can do it to. You can do it to. Isn't that cool? So if you're one of those folks that wants to chime in and say something, you know, reasonable, don't be an animal. That's a place to do it. Guys, I have been hard at work. Top Lops and I all weekend. Maybe I'll show it off. You think we show it off? Yeah, I'll show it off real quick. Let's see how this. How this translates that. Camera one. Check this out, guys. This is producing in real time. What we did was we're gonna co op this entire area. This is all becoming NDS Studios. Let me show you what it looks like outside the double doors.

David Corbeau (6:39)

Turns out I can't do that. Turns out I can't do that at all. I tried to, and it unplugged itself. Anticlimactic. I'll have to post pictures later on. It's dark out there. Yeah, I know. All right, well, that was a flub. I guess we should get into content, try to rebound from that. I gotta touch this thing now. Hold on. Let me go touch this. It's gotta focus on me. Unbelievable. Maybe I could figure out a way to. Maybe if I make a post about it during the intermission, I can come back and show you guys. The wires are taught. So as soon as you start spinning the camera, it unplugs. Okay, what we're gonna do, state of the art. All right. Yeah, I was a welder. That. That explains my inability to work technology in any meaningful way. All right, let's get straight into the content here. I named the episode, you know, Joe Rogan has Alien Dreams or something to that effect. I don't know what this is going to be like. I. I like to watch the content in real time with you guys. Right. I don't want to spoil it for myself. Although I really don't know what the benefit of that is, but I do like doing it, so. So let's get into this one real quick and we'll go boop. So here we have Joe Rogan. This. This is actually from Astral. Astral is an interesting dude. I mean, He's. He's balls deep in the booty hole of aliens in. In very many ways, but very cool guy. You can't expect everybody to be on the same page as you at all times. Right? Had him on my show, I guess it would have been the Ravens Watch. It was one of the last episodes of the Ravens Watch, and it was on the topic of remote viewing. And he does a remote viewing, what would you call it? Experiment with his viewers, with his. His fan base monthly. So he'll. I don't know if he's still doing it, but he would, you know, he would have somebody else outside of himself draw a thing, put it in an envelope, and then he would have people try to remote view what was drawn on the paper in the envelope. And then he would do a reveal, you know, sometime later on that month. And, and sometimes it was a little anticlimactic, sometimes it. It yielded some interesting results, other times it didn't. But here he is, he's posting about Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan just had the most realistic dream ever where he interacted with strange beings with big heads and large eyes. Contact dream abduction. What do you think? This is fun. You know, obviously Joe Rogan being one of the big pushers of this sort of, I don't know, alien narrative in a large way. I don't know if he is. I, you know, sometimes I refer to him as the new Laurel Canyon. I don't know if it's on purpose or if this is just, you know, happenstance. It just came about from an. From a natural interest in. In UFOs. Ro Jogan. Yes. Thank you, every Jepstein. All right, let's see what he's got to say.

David Corbeau (16:06)

You should read into it because it's a dream, so it doesn't make it. Shut up, Brett, you homo. Right? But your subconscious is trying to tell you about something. And the fact that it felt very, very important means your subconscious thinks it. I like it, you Freudian homosexual. You is like the fact that I think something happened to you, Joe. Whether it happened in an astral realm or it happened in the physical realm, something happened to you as a real experience. Brett Weinstein wants you to believe that it's just various aspects of your own subconscious manifesting as skinny, long people who are screwing with you. Brett is such a homo. Very, very important. It's very, very important. It's very, very important. It probably has much to do with the sexual repression that you experience in your youth. Very, very important. God, shut up. What a homo. That's interesting though. About time. Joe Rogan had some sort of strange experience, right? I mean, how long do you, do you look into the sort of abyss before it looks back at you? That was very much my experience when I first started researching hat man and shadow people and all this stuff as a young lady. I, I had the wherewithal to be like, this shit's gonna happen to me. And I was still on the fence about whether or not it was a purely a psychological phenomenon. You know, you're in a state of paralysis. You're also in a semi hallucinogenic state because you're asleep, but now you're awake, but your body is still asleep, that paralysis causes a lot of fear. And because you're already, you know, experiencing whatever, some dump of dimethyltryptamine or whatever, you know, explanation you can give. And you're having these hallucinations and now you're afraid because you're paralyzed, so now you're going to start hallucinating scary crap around the room. Like I, you know, I at least had the wear and I was, I was 17 years old. I'm surprised that it's taken this long. You know what I mean? It's like, how long do you have to kind of massage the ball sack of a Bob Lazar before they show up and talk to you?

David Corbeau (18:41)

You know, yeah, it's interesting because. So Armchair Priest is very true. I had plenty of weird experiences while that. This is basically Joe's first. You know, he's got, like, a lot of these DMT experiences, but I guess the way he files them away in his. In his mind is also purely hallucinogenic and, And. And unimportant. Unimportant conspiracy. QT says. Is he part of the corruption that's going on in our colleges? He was a professor, right. He basically said no when Joe suggested they teach kids more life skills and how to manage feelings in school. I mean, I. He's like this guy that he just repeatedly has on and the Internet has bought as some sort of, like, higher intellectual. And I, I find him incredibly gay and exhausting. I don't. I don't see any. Any value in him. Brett Weinstein. Weinstein. Very gay. Very gay. He disagreed with Joe on everything. If anybody saw this in the, in the chat, if anybody watched this episode. Haven't watched an episode of Rogan and In a long time, but if you did, I'd be interested to hear some of your thoughts on. On that whole. That whole thing. All right, so let's go. We're gonna check out some other things that I found fascinating. And so this, this comes from. And I know I'm not sharing it. We're gonna get to sharing it. Maybe we can go through these. The comment section a little bit on it too. So. So I guess I. I'll. I'll lay the groundwork for this. There's been a lot of speculation about the nature of AI Whether or not it's inhabited by demons, et cetera, et cetera. Different shot. Boop. No, I don't know if I like that one. Yeah, that one's okay. Okay, so a lot of. A lot of speculation is, is AI demons? Can AI be a conduit for demons? Can they interact with it some way, shape or form? And especially during the early development of artificial intelligence, there was like, these kind of like, cracks. Before they had polished it all up and given us Grok or Google Gemini or whatever, we had these stories come out. I remember one of them in particular was about two separate artificial intelligences over at Google. Am I crazy or does David look like a midget Hodge twin? I mean, I'm very. I'm not tall. Not tall. Not a tall guy. Never been known for my height. Well, I mean, I guess just not in a positive way. So, so what? Matt thought that was funny. So. Yeah, yeah, you know, you have these, these AI, they start interacting with one another and this is over at Google. And what happens is they start, I mean, I'm use kind of idiot language here because I don't know, they start speaking, communicating in a, in a, in a, in a way that was, you know, the, the creators couldn't translate it. A language that they didn't understand. And this caused such alarm among the, the Google and that they, they pulled the plug on it. They pulled the plug on it. And that's an interesting point. Emily Pareca says Google, who used to be do no evil. Yeah, that was like, they had a motto and it was do no evil. And then one day they were like, no, no, I think we got to ditch that. Interesting choice. So, so they pull the plug on that. Then you have other anomalies. Like I remember once I was watching this video, a father is telling a story about his, his son. Who knows, I think younger than 16, older than 10, somewhere in there and as a big time range, but whatever. So, so the kid is interacting with some early model of AI. This is maybe a year and a half ago to two years. And you know, he's having this conversation back and forth with it and all of a sudden his parents realize like the thing is, is communicating with him from the POV of a demon. So you get a lot of these. And there was another one, the one last one that I'll mention and I would appreciate if the chat can help me out with this.

David Corbeau (24:44)

All right. Boop. So. Loab. The loab. Cryptid. Cryptid. That's interesting. It's an interesting language to use. There is an AI generated entity summoned by writer artist Steph Madge Swanson. Of course it is. Why. Why did you summon it? Steph Madge Swanson. That's interesting. I don't know why. Maybe worth looking into that name. Loab is an emergent character that arises in certain. AI Image. Synthesis. Synthesize synthesis. Synthesis. All right, cool. Let's look at some images of this. So, yeah. God. Wow. Rough. Rough on the eyes. Not a looker. I really. The puffy red cheeks. The lumpy, puffy red cheeks. And the. The thin upper lip with the what. What looks to be like a mustache. Like a kind of a prickly. Am I sharing this? Are you guys seeing this? Hold on. I gotta go back. Yeah, yeah. Good job, man. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. You know, I see. Armchair priest says looks like an abuse victim. It looks like an alcoholic looks like a substance abuse victim. Right. I mean, that sort of rosacea of the cheeks kind of a deal. It's interesting because it's not super grotesque, but. But it's disturbing enough that it does something to you inside. All right, so. So here. Let's go on to this then. So you have this precedent for AI creating these strange things. We're going to share this tab. Instead, we have Megan Basham says I just asked Grok how it would edit a couple of clunky paragraphs I'd written about Christian colleges for better flow. And it replied with this image, which is odd. That is odd. Why would. Why would Grok do this? Why would it do such a thing? So you've got quite a broad looking. I can only describe it as a demon. There's really no other. No other way to describe this thing. Yeah. Why Grok? Why? It's strange. Yeah. Ask for words and get this cursed image. Weird choice. That's what I'm saying. Like, and she. She. She'll show you the prompt below. We'll get into it. But it's like. That's a very strange slip up. Yeah, We. We. We engage with the demonic AI regularly because it cuts out quite a bit of time when it comes to generating descriptions. SEO language, which is search engine optimization. So it, you know, it'll generate a title that it thinks will be most attractive to the algorithm, you know, so we say, why. Why wouldn't we use an algorithm to. To generate algorithmic friendly language for us? So that is to say, we use AI regularly. Every time we do an episode, we are doing a thing, and it's never messed up. Like a prompt. As simple as, you know, giving you an image when you asked for language. And. And this in particular. This is. Yeah, this is Grok. I don't know. Thoughts, guys? It feels like it looks really scary. Looks super scary. I don't like it at all. It's very scary. Yeah. I don't know. I. I don't like it. Yeah. Emily calls it automated grifting. I see no problem there. Yeah, I just, like, I'm not a guy, dude. Like, think about how many episodes we do typically per week, and then we gotta, like, type out all. All that information. No, no, no, no. We're not doing that. That's crazy. Chuck. Chuck H. Says co pilot draws me as an older, more handsome man. Every time I've ever asked Grok or any. Any AI to generate an image of me, it's almost, almost unanimously made me black. You know what I mean? Very strange. So let's see what she says here. For those asking about the prompt. I kept trying to paste in a couple of paragraphs from a story I was working on. For some reason, Grok kept turning it into a screenshot. So when I finally submitted as a screenshot, this was the response. So she goes, can you edit this for better flow? And it is, you know, she. She does have a screenshot in there. I can't click on these separate images. That's weird. So she submits a screenshot of.

David Corbeau (30:32)

Work and it does this. And, yeah, I mean, she does seem to be. Somebody called her a boomer. A little bit of a boomer. Because if you look even over here at the right side, the image of the text, a lot of it is like. It's not. It's not good. It's not good. It's like when AI tries to, you know, write something and all the letters are, like kinder letters. They're also kind of like Norse runes or something. Like, it doesn't really. Doesn't make a lot of sense. It's like it's trying. It's so strange that it has. I mean, I Guess it really is evolving. It used to have trouble with fingers in a big way. Now it's just like having a real problem getting this text down. It wants to do it in ancient Enochian, but instead it, you know, it mashes that in English together. Boomer, Boomer, Boomer. I just want to go through and see if there's anything else that's interesting within these comments. Man. Spooky image. So for those asking about the prompt when an AI tells you what it is, believe it. No kidding. Right? Right, Right. Oh, there you go. Have you heard about Loab? Yep, yep, yep. There we go. Here's Grok's reply when asked. What? Why this happened. Still sketchy. Oh, this is interesting. Let's see what Grok has to say. The image was an erroneous output from an experimental image generation attempt that misfired during the response processing, likely triggered by a contextual misparse of sensitive topics like spiritual compromise. But it shouldn't have surfaced at all. Dun, dun, dun. My intent was purely textual editing for clarity and flow, not visuals. Apologies for the glitch. Here's a refined version of your paragraph. That's funny. I didn't mean to. It was just a whoopsie. Why is it inherently demonic? You probably went to the image tab by accident. Da da, da, da, da. Can't wait to read the paragraphs. Oh, is it interesting? What was the paragraph about? I was quoting Alyssa Childer's concerns about Biola's policy on trans identifying students and its LGBTQ support group, the Dwelling. That's what the LGBTQ support group is called, The Dwelling. The fuck? That's weird. So you submitted a text about concerns regarding a gay group, and it gave you. And it gave you a demon? That kind of makes it that much better. Look, hey, Grok, can you. Can you kind of streamline this and. And. And edit it a little bit for me? It's a. It's a paragraph about the LGBTQ community. Grok. That's pretty funny, actually. Yeah. What is that? The Dwelling. Sounds like a horror movie, right? So strange. So strange. Valkyrie says AI is the inverse of infinite intelligence, which is why the images come back ungodly.

David Corbeau (34:20)

Horrifying. They want to dwell inside you. Yes. Yes. I don't like this image on the screen. I didn't get it off. Wait a second. I just looked her up. Honestly, not far from the AI image, to be honest. What was her name? Lisa Loeb. Is that what she said? Any relation to the. The Harvard educated scientists slash cultural commentator Avi Loeb? Lisa. Lisa Loeb. Ball sack. All right, there we go. Oh my goodness. I forgot how to type. Well, this is supposed to be her. This is supposed to be Loab or Louis. I mean, I would, I would say, you know, they're pretty different. Is this the right one? Yeah. Put the demon away. My bad, my bad. I didn't like the way he was looking at me either. Yeah, that's the MTV bitch. I don't know. I don't get it. Lisa Loeb wrote that song. Which song? High School. I'm out of it. I don't, I don't understand. I don't understand the references. Guys, I'm not gonna lie to you. I gotta, I gotta pee really hard. I gotta pee really hard. I think what we're gonna do is we're gonna take a pee pee break and then I'm gonna come back, we're gonna read some of these submissions of people shaming Mason for, for her road rage. And then after that, we're gonna open up the lines, we're gonna take some viewer, some, some listener calls. I gotta pee so hard. Dude, I, I, I, I drank a lot of coffee. All right, we'll be back in in a bit. Okay. So bad. Here it goes. All right, we're back. Hey, wait a second. I don't know if you guys can hear my phone ringing. Shut the hell up. Stop it. Don't call anymore. Top. For some reason, my ringer is attached. Did you guys hear my phone ringing? I heard it in my headphones. Which means you guys probably heard it on the, on the show. I'm not good at it. I'm not good at it. Alright, so what the hell are we doing? We were gonna get into these emails. I guess I should just read them from my phone. Okay, let's do that real quick. So, so for those of you who don't know what the. Oh, what's Raven's favorite legendary bird? Pokemon. I'm gonna let you guys guess. I'm gonna let you guys guess. You can guess. And, and I'll. And I'll tell you just because I wonder if you could tell just by me, you couldn't hear my phone ringing. Okay, cool. Thank you. Awesome. All right, so last time we did a Monday morning episode of the Raven, we had on a special guest, and that was Mason. Mason, the silly goose who. Who. Who appears to be a silly goose, but has these deep seated rage issues. So what she started to talk to us about was the fact that she. Oh, there we go. I'm getting. Wow. Getting some right now. So was the fact that she. She engages in. In quite a bit of road rage. Yes. Sweet summer child, Mason. M E M A E Y S I G H And. And. And she's telling us stories about, you know, she'll. She'll kind of rage bait people and she will. She's even got as far as. As getting, you know, ran off the road, things like that. Oh, Genghis KWA Genghis Guam said Articuno. Articuno is. Is my favorite. Is it the gayest one? Yeah, probably. But I like. I like the ice. I like the ice. So. So she's sharing us these stories and everything, and I think they didn't go the way she hoped they were gonna go. In fact, all it did was, was kind of get her scolded and reprimanded because, you know, road rage is a huge problem. People die all the time, not only from accidents, but altercations. I mean, we've watched quite a bit of that on. On timeline Cleanse. And so we had to explain to her, mason, it's not a good thing to have road rage. And I. And I said to people, if you want to write in. Yeah, I like. Yeah, I get that Zapdos does kind of scream power. I have a cool Zapdos card. It's the. I think Zapdos was the only one that was part of the original set before they released the. The birds in the fossil set. So I have a base set, Zapdos holographic bases that zapped. I love that car. It's a good card. So. So. So it wasn't received the way she thought it was gonna. And I said, guys, right in. Especially dads out there, if you've had. If you have kids and you hate the idea of them engaging in road rage, let's. Let's talk about it. And so, you know, we got some. This one actually came in from Rick. I think I know which Rick this is. It's a very short email. I don't know, it says, this little girl needs to chill before someone pulls her card. What a disappointment. I'm just glad Mason. M A, E S Y N isn't my daughter. Her dad must be a real. I don't think. I don't think that. I don't think that her dad. I mean, I, I. It's my understanding that he's very disappointed because I think Mason said a cop had to bring her home one day, and the cop was like, a lot of road rage in this one. This is a huge problem, which, of course, you know, is very worrisome to any parent. It's just like the physical violence that could come of it. Um, here, let's scroll through. Let's see. I know we have a couple of these. Boom, boom, boom. Road rage from Donna Shaw, whose name I just docked. Should have done that. What's the matter? What's the matter? Some issues with the rumble chat? I don't know. I don't know. Rumble broken. I don't know. I don't know. Rumble's always broken, Mason. I was mortified when my youngest son refused to have me drive his friends anywhere due to my swearing and angry behavior behind the wheel. He was embarrassed of me. He was right. Try looking at yourself from a third person perspective. I think she's on the other side of the door listening. We are not the most important person on the road, and they have no obligation to make our day. I put a little Buddha on my dash, and it changed my mindset. What started as setting a good example for my kids has become a habit. And I am very. A very calm driver now. It's been 18 years. Yes. My car is that old. And my little Buddha continues to remind me to find the calm in the chaos, a very important life skill. D Or Donna. Yeah. Emily says put a little Jesus. Not a lazy glutton. But I mean, you know, if. If putting a little Buddha on your dash, at least. At least keeps you from running other people off the road and things. There we go. Eraser Jesus has a purpose. That's what I'm saying. I agree with that. Matt really doesn't like the Eraser Jesus. I like the Eraser Jesus. Rumbles back all right, there you go, guys. I don't know what to tell you. Rumble's just a mess, dude. Just a mess. But, yeah, setting. Setting some sort of little reminder constantly, whatever it is, you know, if I'm sure if you put a coin on your dash and you knew that the purpose of that coin was to remind you to calm down when you saw it, that it might achieve that goal. But I think that that's a fine Practice is to have something tangible there that's within your field of vision that reminds you constantly. I tried not to do the road rage, and I've gotten pretty good at it over the years. Apparently, Mason does want us to know that she's practicing. What is it? What is it? Calm driving. She's practicing not being a monster on the road, you know, so there's that. She did want me to say that, but I've gotten quite good at it over the years now, where I can feel that reaction. Somebody the other day, like I said, was riding my ass. I think I told this story, and. And just flipping me off, over, over, over and over and over again. I mean, like, must have been a dozen times. And. And when she finally got out from behind me and pulled up next to me, I looked at her and I just went, like, why? You know, you flip me off once, I get it. But, like, you flip me off a dozen times and I begin to suspect, like, you're looking for violence. Is that reasonable? Isn't that a reasonable thing? It's like, damn, dude, 12 times. Like, what are you trying to do that you can't do? Because there's a windshield and a motor separating you from me? Because it feels like there's intent behind that. Like, you're giving me the finger so many times. It's like, at what point do you go, that's enough of the finger? Or is this, like, this is a substitute for the thing that I want to do to you? So I don't know. But when she pulled up, I just kind of went like, ah, what are you doing? And I rolled the window down, too. Because I'm the type of person this is, you know, probably above and beyond. But, like, if I do something, like, if I cut you off and it's like, in a really bad way, I will, like, roll the window down and be like, I'm fucking sorry, dude. Like, you'll get that from me. The other day, somebody was waiting to cross a crosswalk, and I just didn't see them because they were, like, kind of hidden by the. The frame of the car. Like, the. Where the windshield is separated from the driver's side window. There's a chunk of car there. Couldn't see him. As soon as I realized that they were there and I had. I was already in the crosswalk. I was mortified. I immediately rolled the window down and was like, I'm sorry. And they were like, no, it's all good, you know? So, like, I'm the type of guy, like, if I, if I see some, like, if I'm doing something, I'm gonna say that. So I rolled the window down and I guess I wasn't going to apologize this time, but I was asking him, I said, what's up, man? And she goes, you cut me off. Which I did cut her off. I was in the left lane to turn. It was a turn only lane. There was a red light for that lane. But the straight, the, the lanes to the right of me, they had a green light. So when their light turned green, a couple of cars went. This lady was real slow to hit the gas. So all of a sudden an opening is created and it's like seven car lengths. So I just slide over and keep going straight because I wasn't supposed to turn there. I was like, oh, that's not my turn. So I got out of the turn only lane into the gap of seven cars. She hadn't even taken off yet. She was still stopped from when the light was red. And I just got in, didn't even have to do it fast. Just went, whoa. And just went. And she was freaking out. Like, I don't know. Very strange, very strange. How so? It's like, that's not even, like nobody was in danger. You'd even have to hit the brakes, you hadn't hit the gas yet. You cut me off, I cut you off. And then I, and then I proceeded to do, I don't know, 5 above the speed limit. Like nobody was impeded. And I'm just looking at the guy, by the way. Yes, yes. I always use my blinker, by the way. Her husband is in the passenger seat, mortified looking. Mortified. Just the look of defeat upon a man. Just like you could tell is like, she does this, this is what she does. And she's doing it again. I used to date a girl who would do that. She would love to roll the window down and fucking go, you know, give the finger and all this shit. And I'm like, hey bitch, guess who's gonna have to fight him? Me. Me. Not you. You're not gonna have to fight him. You ever see those videos where it's like there's such a road rage that one car gets in front of the other car and slows down to make them stop. Now, I mean, she would roll down the window and like, fuck you to your face. Little Asian chick, little Asian chick. And she's doing this. I'm going, what are you doing? I gotta fight these people. I think I'm gonna say this here on record. Women have More road rage than men. Women have more road rage than men. I think that's true. I don't think that that's an unfair statement. Oh, frustrating. All right, let's go through. We'll see. We'll see if we have any more emails reprimanding Mason. Forensic look at the twin towers. I don't know what that was. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It's a lot. So I broke into the sections. What are you doing, Matt? Why are you in here? You sure? All right, it's good. I'm looking for more emails that. Oh, here we go. Yeah, yeah. He got abducted by aliens. Yep.

David Corbeau (61:25)

After the accident, the devil started chirping on my shoulder that I don't deserve to live because I took this old woman's life. I let the guilt consume me and started drinking alcoholically. Not just drinking, but drinking alcoholically. And I. See this is the kind of thing that I. Mason just called and threatened to run Scott over. It's not good. It's not good, guys. By the way, I see Chris Champagne says Suboxone is worse. Apparently, everybody's discovering now that Kratom is horrifying for you. Which is interesting, because I took Kratom once, and I was like, I hate the way this feels. And now. Now everybody's like, oh, it turns out it's really not good. Kratom. So I let the guilt consume me. I began drinking alcoholically before finally finding my way back to heroin. I finally got off the heroin in 2018 after EMDR therapy. I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. My cousin was a cop, and he overdosed on Kratom. That's. That's. That's wild. I didn't know anybody could overdose on Kratom. I know that it attaches to, like, the opioid receptors, and so in that way, it is. It's not exactly an opioid, but it behaves the same way, which explains a lot of why I didn't like it, because I never liked, you know, whatever opioids are in any form. I mean, that's not like I've ever done heroin or Suboxone, but I have tried to take pain pills on, like, two occasions. One was after my, you know, testicular removal therapy, where they took my ball for the whole cancer thing, and they gave me pain pills, and. And I tried to take them, and I just hated the way that they felt. So I didn't take them again. And then like years before that. So that was in my early 30s. And then like in my early 20s, I went to do some dental stuff. And after the dental stuff, they gave me, you know, some sort of pain pills, oxy something or another and hated the way it felt and flushed them all down the toilet. So. So it would make sense that the time that I tried Kratom when my buddy was like, oh, this is great, you're gonna love it, it's gonna make you. I felt horrifying. So I. Whatever it is, it just does not. Doesn't vibe with me. The Lord works in mysterious ways because if it weren't for that accident, I would not have connected with the man who eventually became my husband and father of our now three week old son. Congratulations, Jasher. Oh, banger name. But I'm writing to tell you I would wish, I wouldn't wish that soul crushing guilt on anyone. When you get behind the wheel of a car, you're taking your life and the lives of those around you into your hands. Mason spelled appropriately, but. But apparently not. The way she spells it. She, she tosses a Y in there. Oh, willy nilly. She says, mason, you are a beautiful, charismatic young woman with a bright light. I would hate to see you hurt or for you to have to live with hurting someone else. I'm hard headed as all get out. You from the south. I'm hard headed as all get out and had to learn the hard way to drive like a grandma and to always be alert of my surroundings while driving. I pray that you don't ever have to learn the hard way. But if you do, please keep faith that the Lord can use it for good in your life. I love you all. Keep crushing. Thank you. Nola Chat. What do we think about that? I mean, look, I don't know. I don't know if she's being genuine when she says it's not that big of a deal and that she was embellishing because I just get the sense that that Mason is full of rage. She's a silly goose, pleasure to be around, but I get the feeling that she's telling the truth when she talks about her road rage issues. Who knows, maybe. Maybe this is a saying it publicly on a show and then getting emails about it could well be. Because if I'm being perfectly honest, if there ever was a time where I displayed road rage, I certainly didn't receive public criticism for it. I did it in my own vacuum where, you know, only me and the people that were in the car knew about it, so maybe a little public shaming helps. I think you should write her. How old is she? She's just a kiddo. I don't know, maybe 19, 20, something like that. Far too young to be doing all that silly shit. All right, guys, we're going to open the lines very soon here, but before we do that, let's check and see if we have any donations. D Corbo 7 on all platforms. That's Venmo PayPal cash app. If you want to support me directly, that's how you can do it. But you don't have to. It's fine. There we go. Thank you to Valkyrie for the five dollar donation on Cash app for honoring your divine self expression. I don't know what that means. I wouldn't call this very divine, but thank you. Thank you for that. Let's go and check out PayPal and we do a little refresh here. Booby dee doo. All right. Nothing on PayPal, right? Come on, load. The Internet here is a little bit slow and Venmo Rumble rants. Missed. Dude, Rumble is so weird. Like, I go and try to check on Rumble and it just doesn't hold on to any of the old Rumble rants. Oh, no. There we go. Thank you, chuck, for the $20 donation. He says Eraser Jesus is not good. Maybe Matt doesn't like Eraser Jesus, but if you keep a little Eraser Jesus on your dash and it stops you from road raging, is Eraser Jesus good? Hmm. Thank you very much, chuck, for the $20 donation. Let's get into some of these voicemail memo mails that came in. Oh, we got more than a few of them. Very nice. Let's. Let's get to playing those. David, do math. 25, $25. You know what's crazy is in the back, like right on the other side of this wall, there's like a bunch of women, like older than 50, doing like a Bible study or something. It's maybe like 15 of them. And I know I've shouted some inappropriate things over this past hour and ten minutes. I don't think they're a fan of what I'm doing here. All right, we're gonna listen to voice memos. Let's do that. So, okay, this is on the stage, so this should work. The older women crowd loves. Oh, that's funny. Emily, your in laws are in the villages, isn't it? It's like where they all go, huh? Yeah. Tell them to come by, say hi. Old ladies. Balls deep in the good Book. That's how it be. That's how it be. All right, here we go. We're going to play this one. We're going to play this one. This is a long one. It's a long one.

David Corbeau (86:47)

Well. Thank you, John. Thank you for calling in, leaving a voice memo. I appreciate the kind words about Matt's addition because you guys have been, you know, if you've been listening for a long time, like, it happened really quick. Like, we met Matt, got good guy vibes from him, made some content with them. The banter was good and the conversation was good. And then one thing led to another. I mean, it really felt like God was just pushing in this, pushing us in this direction. And we've got, like, a couple of people who have said some negative things, but that's not really a reflection on Matt as much as it's like there are, like a dedicated 1% of people that just want to say negative things about this show whenever they get an opportunity. And so they're, they're always going to do that. But we also get negative comments about, like, the direction the show has gone in as far as closer to Christ, you know, because we used to be a lot rougher around the edges, and they don't like that. I had a guy tell me I wasn't funny anymore, which was, you know, I was like, damn, dog. Thought I was still funny. He's like, no, you're funnier when you were talking about the blacks. I'M like, yeah, cue the danger. Music says they just missed the racism. It's like, yeah, dude. So there's always going to be some small percentage of people. However, overwhelmingly, the. The feedback about Matt and his contributions to what we're doing here have been very positive, and it almost doesn't matter what people say, because I see the value in it. I see it as positive. Can we give Matt a show kind of like David has the Raven and Danny has Top Lobster? Well, so Danny's supposed to. He's not supposed to be doing. But, like, I would have. I. I always would like to see him do a solo show. And Matt does want to do some sort of a solo show. So there's Straight Bible, which I think he's kind of, like, rolled top into that to kind of help produce, but that was supposed to be a solo thing initially, so I don't know. I don't know if he's gonna do, like, a straight solo show. I mean, I think the dream is to be able to do this to the extent that Nephilim Death Squad is pumping out, like, multiple shows a day, or at least on this network, if that's what you want to call it. Multiple shows a day from me, from Matt, from Top. But we just have to be able to. To make it make sense. We got to get there, across that line, and then, you know, if we can. If we can free up the time to do that, then, yeah, I would. I would absolutely love to do that. Stacks Farm Said says Matt is crushing Matt with three T's. Thank you, guys. And it's an important distinction. He always kind of gets frustrated, and it's not something I wanted to bring up, but when people misspell his name when they spell it with just two T's, I. You know, because I think it's part of what makes him unique. And. And I think he does, too. And it's just like, as. As. As much as he likes you guys and as much as he likes. It's like the number one thing he says is like, could you spell my name right? Let's call Matt 501T3. I like that. I like that. Have in person interviews. Well, we are doing in person interviews in this studio. We've done a number of them already, but that's, you know, that's very much just a. Can we get somebody in studio kind of a deal, so. Man, that's good. Thank you, Scott. Thank you for the pastinio pistachio and white chocolate coffee. That's crazy good. Okay, let's play another voice memo.

David Corbeau (93:23)

That's a, a great question. That's a great question. I, I so, you know, basically what John is saying is, is how do I, how did I go about introducing Jesus Christ to my, my kid? And I would say that certain, certain people I approach differently. Which is, which is reasonable to say, right? So if I'm gonna give information to my wife or my son, it's going to come. The delivery method is going to be different than if I'm giving it to, you know, a guest on the show, an audience member, somebody I meet in person, and I find that a delicate approach is best, or at least that's how I go about doing it. It's not something that I put a lot of thought into, but like, I'm much more in the business of planting seeds. I don't think that you change somebody's mind in one conversation alone. And I also worry that too much of an abrupt shift or serving something up too cold can cause sort of a resentment or a pulling away. For example, how many people have this story of having like religion, which is different than Jesus having religion forced down their throat when they were younger and then they turn away from it when they're older? So I understand a little bit about human psychology and just our tendency to do that, our rebellious nature, pulling away from, you know, what we were raised in. And it's kind of natural to do that. And a lot of people come back around anyway, but some people don't. Some people pull away from the way that they were raised, and then they. They do a 180. They go in the opposite direction of that. So when I introduce these concepts to my son, he gets a bigger picture at, like, let's say, church. But in our conversations, he gets little seeds, little ideas, little questions, concepts, and. And if he asks questions, then I'll sit down and answer them. But I just kind of. I kind of pepper him with things. So I think, to be perfectly honest, the way my son learns is just by watching me, I'm. I am who I am on the show as I am in real life. So when I turn the cameras off and I go home, I'm talking about the same things. I'm interested in the same things. Like, the conversation never stops for me. And he'll ask me things like, oh, dad, what did you talk about in the show? This and that. And I'll tell him, and then I'll have to try to unpack some of these ideas for him. So I guess the, you know, it's. It's a long version. There's no short version of it. But the same way you see me learn on this show or on Nephilim Death Squad is the same way my son learns, because he gets a version of it through the conversations that I have with him after the show. He has all kinds of questions all the time, but it's never, like. It's never a structured thing. So if you go to school and you. You're going to learn, you know, mathematics, you got to go. You got to lock in for this amount of time, and you got to do this thing, which, by the way, breeds quite a bit of resentment. Kids just want to get away from it. If I were to lock him in in the same way and try to teach him about God, he could easily come away resenting it. So it's a natural exploration. There's no structure for it. Questions and ideas and topics come at all times of the day. I talk to him like I talk to other adults. So the same way that I'm talking right now is the same way that I talk to him. I always have. He's pretty well spoken because of that. And, yeah, it's not a matter of teaching as much as it's a Matter of. I'm not trying to set an example. We as parents will set an example just by the lives that we live. And he sees that. So I don't make it a concerted effort to teach him. I think he just watches and then he asks questions and then I do my best to answer them. I feel like that was a really shitty, sloppy answer. But I thought it was a fascinating question. I guess I've never really thought about that, how I'm teaching my son. Because I'm just not going to do that. I'm not going to make him lock in. You know what I mean? Because it's like with school, I think you do have to like there is an argument for making them lock in for a certain slot of time. It does develop discipline. But it also kind of suggests like this kind of learning only happens within this time frame to that time frame. But like this inquisitive nature about the reality we exist in about God, our creator, about who Jesus Christ is, is like an all the time thing. Not a. From the hours of eight to, you know, 11:00am or something like that. We're going to lock in. We're going to do this thing like. No, it's an all the time thing. It is life. Life is happening constantly. It's happening all around you. The supernatural is constantly happening. You know, God is constantly present. And so this shouldn't be like a locked in. Not that I've ever given it that much thought and designed it that way. But this isn't what you see isn't just a job. It's what I would be doing even if the cameras were off. So he just sees that and that's how he learns. Hey, it's Stephen. What's up, brother? You could, you could be in the coffee shop, Slash nds Studios and you could just chat it up with me. If you ever saw that I was live and you were in the area, I would, I would be upset if you didn't just walk in and open this studio door and come and sit in this chair across from me. Who now? No, not November. What are we talking about? All right. Yeah, I'm just checking with the chat, cuz I'm like, that was a lot of word salad. That's a lot of word salad that I just said. Being honest with your kids is important. I lost my kids, lost their father two years ago during a drug overdose. Fucking sorry to hear that, dude. Never lied to them about it. They are 9 and 10. Yeah, yep. You never realize like what you know if you lie to your kid, what sort of seed that plants, how that can come back and bite you in the ass years later? No doubt. I'll be there soon. In time, brother. All right, man. I'm waiting on you. I'm waiting on you. You gotta read the Bible cover to cover every night right before bed. I would never get to sleep. I would never get to sleep. Takes so long for me to read. I really do envy people that have, like, that ability to just, like, plow through. That would be a cool thing to be able to do. That would be a cool thing to be able to do. All right, let's get through a couple of these voice memos. Jeez, it's almost two hours. I don't know how long we're gonna be able to open the lines for today. Honestly, we might not be able to do it. We might just get through voice memos because I don't know how to pace a show. Here we go.

David Corbeau (103:33)

Well, that's an interesting thing to say there at the end. The plastic surgery is not good, but the internalizing may be good. I mean, I find that as a man, people say we internalize our emotions until they kill us. But I don't think that that's so true. I find that these days more. What I do is I internalize a feeling, if it's sadness or if it's anger or whatever, or resentment. But I don't just push it down and don't think about it anymore. I think through it, and I'll come to some sort of rational conclusion. Because There usually is a pretty rational thing to say about all the rage you're feeling in the moment or all the sadness you're feeling in the moment. And there is some wisdom that comes by way of rationale. For example, the idea of suffering a thing twice because I am anticipatory, I am there. Well, I mean, you could anticipate a fun thing, let's say, but if there is something negative looming on the horizon and now you're worrying about that thing coming, you can in fact push that feeling down. And then you can rationalize it by telling yourself there is simply no benefit. It is a net negative to worry about a thing before it happens. And in fact, all you're doing is making your own life worse because now you have to suffer this thing twice. You know, like, I'm very good at that. All the what ifs, what if this, what if that. I immediately go, there's no sense in it. Life has shown me that actually, more than likely, none of the things you're worrying about will come to pass. And the worst that's going to happen in most cases is you're just going to suffer needlessly and then the thing won't happen anyway. So I don't think that when men, I don't know about all men, but like myself personally, if I shove a thing down, whether it's sadness and then I. And then I. What I do is I just don't let it manifest in front of people, and I internalize it and I go through it and I go, is it worth being sad about? What benefit is there to be sad? Is this even something that is, you know, like, I'll do that, and then it goes away. So, So I was just saying that because she said the third type is the woman that pushes it all down. And then it manifests as, like, really psychotic behavior. Like, like plastic surgery, and. Which is truly psychotic behavior. Putting filler in your face is bananas. But yeah, I just. That just, you know, got me on that train of thought. It's like this idea that maybe, maybe there is a type of man that pushes it down and lacks the mental process by which to deal with these emotions. But. And, and, and maybe that leads to an early grave. I have a feeling I'm gonna live a very long time. Hicktown honey says stress does not serve your body. So why worry when God has your back? Exactly. Well, that's the ultimate one. It's like, hey, do you believe God is real? Do you believe that God has a plan? Do you believe that you're part of that plan. What are you worried about then? Feminized men, you can say, is it. Well, is it? Is it. Is it feminized to push down your stuff till it kills you? Maybe. Maybe. I mean, in. In that way, when. When women do act out and they do get emotional, I suppose it is cathartic in some way. At least it's escaping. But then it's like it becomes poison to everybody around you. And I. I don't know if it really escapes. I think when you start saying things out loud, you know, when you use speech, when you use the word or. Or, you know, your ability to speak and you say these things. I am this, I am that. What does that do? What are the spiritual repercussions of doing that? I am so sick of this. I don't know. I don't know. Let's see. Emily said in the DMS there is a father somebody clips. Ooh, I got that horrifying AI demon on my thing here. Let's play this clip batch. All right, let's see what it is. Is it this one? I don't know which one it is. Oh, that's all the way from July, so it's got to be this one. Okay, this is only a minute long. Is it this? What are. Yeah, what are demons? This dude's old as dirt, baby. We'll pull this up in a second. Give me one moment here. Should try to get him on. Yeah, before he expires. That's not nice. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. Share this tab instead and let's get to it. Boop. Dr. Taylor Marshall.

David Corbeau (112:26)

Well, that's interesting. So he's saying that they're fallen angels and I don't know, but I kind of, the way that I kind of looked at it is like when they, when, when the Bible talks about devils, demons and unclean spirits. I looked at devils much more so as you know, fallen angels. But I mean, you know, I don't really know anything at all. So it's interesting. What is a base? Yeah, I don't know what that is. Maybe Nathaniel Gillis is right. It's all the same thing, manifesting the way that you want to believe it. Well, maybe. But I do think that these things have a nature and I do think that the Bible explains their nature better than pretty much anything else. Demons aren't fallen angels. They're offspring of the fallen angels and humans. Right. Well, that's how I would look at it. But then again, I'm an idiot and so I'm certainly no authority on the topic. So I guess the way that I sort of rationalized it is like you might call a fallen angel a devil and then you would call its offspring a nephilim. And when that offspring dies, its spirit doesn't ascend and it's kind of lost here in this parallel realm. And that disembodied spirit is what we would call demons. So. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think that he's saying anything too differently here though. He's calling a fallen angel a demon. It's a very, very minor deviation. I would be interested in what he has to say about what the Bible calls devils and. And then also unclean spirits. That's an interesting one. Unclean spirits remind me of like familiar spirits, but I don't know what those are, what their origins are, where they come from, any of that kind of thing. I think Nathaniel Gillis's research is on point for sure. I think he just leaves biblical terminology out of it so he can bring everyone into the conversation. I think that that's probably pretty accurate, but I think when you remove the biblical language from it, and I would hope that through an elongated conversation, you know, he would eventually reintroduce it just because I think the Bible nails the nature of these things so well. This is a fascinating clip though. Chad Ripper. Ripper. It's got a dope ass name, exorcist and author of Deliverance prayers. Huh. All right. It's late, it's two hours in. I got stuff to do. We're not going to take the calls today. I think Wednesday, Wednesday night at 7. What we'll do is we'll do a really short segment and we'll get straight into calls. He's also Catholic. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, you know, I'm not really not too worried about. How do I explain this? So, like, all the denominations and everything, Catholicism and then, you know, Protestants and. And even like Mormons, like, Top was fighting with the Mormons recently. And. And I think the guy that started the conversations, like Lego Joseph Smith, started off with basically shitting on Christians and the idea of the Trinity. It's my understanding that they have something pretty similar within Mormonism called the. The Triune Godhead or something like that, or just the Godhead. I might. I might be butchering that, but when you look at it, it is. It's pretty similar in concept. And I think it's like people just trying to figure out that there is this separation of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, but there was this massive overlap where they are one and the same. And I think the problem is we're all wrestling with the Creator, the universe, who exists outside of the time and space constraints of the physical realm. And we're trying to understand how one could be these three different things, you know, so, like, Mormons will make this meme where it's like, hey, it's kind of a funny meme. It's like, hey, God, it's me, you, and it's Jesus praying. But, like, so far what I've read, it's like the language does insinuate there is, like, they. I think, honestly, the Trinity does a really great job of showing that as a symbol. You know, you have these three circles that are separate, but there is a center section that overlaps. So it's like they are these separate things, but somehow there is this big center section that conjoins them all. So in that way, I find the Trinity as a symbol very fascinating. Because if that is really what's going on, then it does a really great job of depicting that. But this. This all feels like arguing about the minutiae of the thing. And like, I know I bust Catholics balls, and sometimes it's fun to bust the balls of Mormons too, but it's like, do you believe that Jesus Christ was sent to pave our way to redemption and that he died and that he was resurrected and that he ascended? You know, like, when Jesus says to the apostles, I think it's the apostles that he has to go so that help can be sent. He's like saying, like, I have to go now so that the Holy Spirit can go, because Jesus is not. He can't be in all these different places at once. So he has to leave so that the Holy Spirit can, can be sent to us as help. I don't know, it just, it all just feels like sometimes I wonder. It almost seems foolish to think like one denomination or whatever has it 100% correct and that within all denominations there are genuine believers of Jesus Christ who are after the heart of God, who want a relationship with him, who believe that he's their Savior. But all the infighting is what does the Bible say about breaking up the church? And I don't know if it's worded as the church or if it's, or if it's breaking up the body of Christ or. I forget exactly what the language is. But yeah, in other words, like, I don't care. You know, if you want to have conversations, you want to debate these little topics here and there, like, that's fine, but like, totally. Like that guy Lego Joseph Smith was basically saying like, Christians are fucking retarded for believing the Trinity. And then he goes on later on to basically say like, we're not even worshiping the same God. Like, I don't know if that's accurate, dog. It's like, if you could just start by saying, like, is Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior? Yes. You love God. You believe that he sent his only begotten son to pave the way for us, for redemption, to heal us. All these different things. Yes. Well, who cares? Or at least like, it's not to say who cares? Like, yeah, these are interesting things to get into. But like, why would you then let it be this driving wedge between you and somebody else who also believes in Jesus Christ? I don't know. Maybe I'm retarded. It's probably for the best. Probably for the best. That's baseline denial, Messiah denial. Being unable to fathom that there is one truth. Well, it's not that I don't fathom that there's one truth. And I don't know if you're really saying like, if that's, if I'm interpreting that the right way, but it's like, I think God would really, considering he's the God of forgiveness, forgive a guy that couldn't. Or a girl or a non binary Zimzer who couldn't figure out like the fucking. But was genuinely and only God knows your heart. Right? That was genuinely seeking God, that was genuinely wanting God's presence in their life, that genuinely wanted redemption, that genuinely repented, that was genuinely seeking the truth. I don't know if it makes a lot of sense that God would be like, ah, you fucking believed in that, that Godhead thing. Stupid. To hell with you. Like, no, stupid is the key component here. Like, I get a lot of shit wrong. I hope God forgives me. All right. Anyway, I gotta go, guys. Stop. You're keeping me here too long. Let's make this big screen. And boom. All right, keep an eye out. Wednesday we're gonna be doing another one of these. And let me see if I can tell you what's coming up soon. I know we got straight Bible and then another Bible study that we're doing with Matt on Wednesday. Tomorrow we're having John Lenher on Lenhart on with Ed Mabry, and I think he's bringing one of his. One of his Buddhist friends, which is going to be interesting. I don't know how that's going to go. And then. Oh, we have to reschedule with. Geez. Oh, my God. We got a lot of stuff coming up this week. Keep an eye out for it. You just call John Lenhart the lazy glutton. Oh, oh, oh, Buddha. I was like, that's not. That's not nice. That's a cope, David. Maybe could be a cope. I'm not sure what you're talking about, but likely is. All right, thank you guys for watching, and I will see you more than likely tomorrow. All right, peace out, guys. What the. That didn't work there.