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What? That's. That's heavy, dude. Mary did you know Dethroned many men as ravens. Many Many Men is my, it's my son's favorite song. He actually said that on the show. He actually said that on the show and I thought that was funny. It's a banger of a song. So, you know, I, I, I listened to Mary did you know on, on the way to. We went to like a farm with the kids. We were going to meet Top and his wife there and his kids. And we went in my mobile, which by the way, like I got to buy a new car and I'm waiting to get paid from this podcasting that I do, which comes at the end of the month. And I'm hoping that it's enough where I can like kind of put a down payment on something. And I'm only going an hour away and my car is going to explode. Like it's just done and I'm not putting any money into it. Like I'm not going to put money into it if I'm going to put a down payment on another car. And I'm looking at like, I know they're not the greatest, but I'm looking at like a Grand Cherokee like a Trailhawk. My wife likes to renegade. I'm like looking at a lot of Jeeps. My like my wife likes to renegade. My wife. Renegades are a little bit gay mostly because they're small. But I'm small, so like maybe I drive a small gay car, but they also have, you know, they have a Trailhawk for Renegades and for. Pretty much. I think all their models are offered in Trailhawk which really is just like you have tow hooks in the front to get pulled out of the muck. If you go in the muck, I just like. It looks a little bit cooler. But get a Tacoma or a four Runner. I don't have Tacoma or Forerunner money. Optimistic Bear says Jeeps are for women, you know. Yeah, dude, Wranglers specifically are for women. But I like a Cherokee. Is it the Grand Cherokee or the Cherokee? I think it's just the Cherokee with the really thin, the narrow headlights. It just looks like I like it in the Trailhawk. If I get it with white with the, the, the accent color on the hood, black. And then the red tow hooks on the front, like pretty cool. But either way I'm not going to dump money into this thing, right? If I'm going to do that. But like it's, it's going to blow up. So on this one hour ride there, it was like a nightmare for, for, for Thanksgiving I got to drive four hours to Boca. And like the way it's working out, like I might get paid. I might end up like freaking out and trying to buy a car the morning I drive to Boca. Or like the, I'm sorry, the day before I drive to Boca. So I'll be in a dealership for five hours and then I'll. And then the next day I'll wake up and I'll drive to Boca, which is four hours and then four hours back because this thing is not gonna make it if that money doesn't hit. This is like a weird. If it doesn't hit, like I'm gonna drive this bomb four hours each way. Which is really. Scott says, I swear to God, if you buy a piece of shit, I'll kill you. Honestly, dude, I was thinking about just doing. Because for a while like Carvana. But like obviously Carvana, you can't test drive stuff. But if you get it inspected immediately, as soon as you get it. And then like you have a seven day period where you can go to Carvana, be like, look at this laundry list. Of you got to fix this, and then they'll fix it. But, like. Yeah, that's the big thing is like. But, like, Carvana is kind of cool because I don't have to sit in a. In a dealership dealing with these pieces of shit, which is what I think car salesmen are. And. And I could just go doodly, doodly, doo, and then it gets dropped off at my house. Carvana's a scam. Damn it, dude. My dad has a cybertruck. It has skinny headlights. I spot it from a mile away. Your dad has a cybertruck? That's crazy. George says the Raven. My favorite voice. I'm sorry, dude, if I'm your favorite. I got a rough voice. Get a Turo for a few days. Oh, yeah, that's an option, right? Um, maybe. But it's like, I look at any money that I could be spending on, like, a rental, because we were going to do a rental, so whether it's from Turo or anything else. But then I'm like, I could put that money, you know, towards the car. I don't know. It's just weird timing because I have to make this drive, and I have to get a car by the end of this month. So I could fix the car that I have, which is a waste of money. Rent a car, which is a waste of money, or buy. Or, yeah, buy a car, which I have to do. But the timing of it isn't really in my favor right now. So it might be drive a bomb to Boca that explodes upon arrival and then be like, shit. So we drive the bomb to this. This thing. And this is. So the. The show is called Ernesto. No. So I have a little. I have a little story. We'll get into the story, then we'll get into the juice, and then we'll go for a break for a little bit. Dave Ramsey says it's always cheaper to fix. Well, so I've already been quoted, and I talked to Scott about this, actually. So my model of Hyundai is apparently notorious for having a steering column, coupler brake. So what happens is, when this coupler breaks, there's a tremendous amount of play in the steering column, and. And it vibrates like a motherfucker. And when it vibrates, that vibration when you're coming to a stop, it rattles the entire car every single time you stop, and it sends everything else into a spiral, and everything else is getting loosened. Everything else is getting screwed up. Plus my fuel pump needs to go. So those two things right there, the part for the coupler is like 30 bucks. The labor is like a thousand bucks because you have to undo the whole steering column and then to do the fuel pump. That's a lot of money, too. So we're talking another, you know, thousand or so there. So it's like, is it cheaper to spend 2000 plus on this thing that is falling apart anyway, or does it make more Sense to put 3 to 4,000 down as a down payment on something and just not have to deal with that shit? Shouldn't it have been fixed in a recall? Probably. I don't know. Who knows? You can find the nice Tacoma under 20k. Yeah, but I can't. I don't want to do. I'm so frugal, dude. I don't want to do that. 20k is too much. 20k is too much. Have you gone to the Hyundai dealership to check if they'll fix the steering column? I think we went one time, and it was like there was something that was recalled and it was fixed, but I don't think the steering column was under the recall, and we were out of warranty. It just is what it is. So we go to this place. It's a farm that has, like, a gift shop in it, and there's a lot of animals that you can pet, and we're bringing the kids there on Sunday for a good time. So we go to church. Then we go do this. I don't know if you guys can hear the cheering that's happening out there. So we show up to this place. Very cool. Like, as soon as you walk in, there's an enclosure, and there's hogs, there's pigs. And I. I don't think I've ever seen pigs this big. I mean, these pigs were, like, easily ridden into battle. Like, that's how big they were. It was so big that it felt like in the northeast of America, you know, I used to live in New Jersey. I was kind of on the border by New York, too. So I was, like, a little bit in the country. There's a lot of black bear out there, and this thing would kick. Yo, Emily, how did you fucking know that dog? So that's kind of crazy. I think that is kind of what just happened. So. So these. These. These hogs, like, I look at black bear that were local, you know, that were knocking over my trash cans, and. And I'd be going to work in the morning and being like, we left the trash can out. Damn it, we forgot. And now I got to pick up all the. And, like, those bears would not be able to take this, this pig out. This pig was a unit. A unit, dude. So, so, you know, we see the pigs, very cool. They have salcata tortoises. The salcata tortoises are like huge, dude. Like you could put a child on its back and it would cruise around. So cool. Love a tortoise. Big fan of a Tortuga, not to be confused with the torta. So, yeah, hogs. Well, so, so I know that hogs are, you know, they're a whole invasive species and you know, basically it's like kill on site with them and they are very aggressive. But this was like, this was a pig. It was still a domesticated pig. I know if you release any domesticated pig into the wild, allegedly they will eventually transform into a hog domesticated pig. You could, it was like a three seater. Like you could erode three, three people on this thing. So, you know, salcata tortoise is very cool. Donkeys, like the donkeys pet them up good. Donkey capybaras. Capybaras were there. We could have. But we didn't. But you could have paid $15 for a meet and greet with a capybara, which is a hilarious way to describe petting. A capybara is a meet and greetings 700 pound pig. Had to be more than that, I think. Three seater McLaren, the three seater McLaren of pigs was there. So. So, you know, the capybara is very cool. Love a big capybara. And no, I can, I might be able to ride a capybara. I'm not a very big guy. Well, I was surprised though, because I knew that a capybara was, you know, it's the world's biggest rodent. But when you hear that, you're like, how big is a rodent get? And yeah, they get pretty big, dude. Pretty big, you know, So I think it stood probably that tall. What is that, two and a half, three feet off the ground? Probably, yeah. And big ass heads. What's really fascinating is their feet. Their feet are like so thick. They just got three, three toes. Three big toes and thick ass ankles. It almost looks like what you would see an ostrich rolling around with. Except an ostrich is much more like reptilian. But it was, it was, you know, size of a rottweiler. No, I don't think it was that big. It was that big, but they were big. Very big. So, you know, we take the kids around, they pet the things. And in other places that I've been, especially in New Jersey, it's like, no, you can't touch him because they bite. Florida's like, they bite. Touch them. And there's like a little warning sign. It's like, yo, it might bite. But like, yeah, definitely, dude. Touch them. You know, they sell like buckets of feed. You can get the kids buckets of feedback. Okay, so we're going through the whole thing. It's really cool. There's like a gem section where you could pour sand into a sifter and you can get gems out of it if you buy a sack of gems for $60. And, and there's like, you know, it's cool. There's a little bar inside. They sell smoothies and beer and all kinds of stuff. Very nice. This is a really cool place. It's really, you know, lovely experience. And then, and then there's Ernesto. Who is Ernesto, you might ask? Well, Ernesto is a. Is a hog and he's blind. Ernesto is the blind hog. I wonder actually if we could bring up. We probably can. I bet you. They're chanting out there. It must be a Ernesto the blind pig. There he is. All right. Oh yeah, that's right. He's got an Instagram page. We're not gonna do that, cuz it's. But we will. This is cool. They kind of got like the whole thing. Fine, fuck it, we'll go. We'll bring up his Instagram. That's fine. I hope it works. It's not. Because a lot of times it's like you need to be on a phone. You gotta be on a phone to be able to do that. Uh huh. Continue watching, sign up, log in. You never mind. We can't look at Ernesto. So Ernesto is a blind pig. He's at this place, he's got a cute little house. If anybody wants to go look at Ernesto the blind pig, you can find his on his Instagram. And you, you know, if you sign in, you can watch it, whatever. And he's got a cute little house. He's got a yard. They painted it. He's got a porch swing. He's a little house inside of his enclosure. It's adorable. He's got like a service animal vest on, thus the, the thumbnail that we're working with today. And, and he's cute, man, he's cute. So we go over there, we pet up Ernesto. He feels like shit. What I will say is, after I pet him up, I smelled my hands. Because, you know, sometimes you pet somebody's dog and you're like, ernesto's hands didn't make Me smell at all? I thought that was nice. Ernesto's hands didn't make me smell at all. Is that what I said? Ernesto didn't make my hands smell at all. And he was making cute little oinks. And we were just having a good time with Ernesto. We go, we do the rest of the thing. We circle back on our way out to say goodbye to Ernesto. We go, all right, kids, it's time to say Ernesto's hands. It's time to say goodbye to Ernesto. We can't forget to say goodbye to Ernesto. And we walk over and he is laying on a little blankie. Adorable, Adorable. So we caught him. I mean, we called him. You said caught, Emily, and I'm just like all fucked up. We called him over. Ernesto, Ernesto, we're leaving. We got to say goodbye. So, you know, all the kids run over to him and he gets off his little blankie and he starts like messing it around. You know, like when you see like a dog, you ever see a dog, like, try to get its, its bed comfy, cozy, and does like the circles and it beats up its bed and then it goes to. So we're like, okay, you getting your little bed ready? Ernesto, he's getting sleepy time. The sun was going down. Ernesto's getting sleepy. And then, you know, something changed. Something changed in Ernesto. I think Ernesto, he snapped. Now, Ernesto, he can't see, but he can hear. And he knew that we were there. And this is what really gets me about Ernesto is he knew that we were there. And it was like he was saying, come closer, that I might hear you. Come closer. My eyes don't work. I can't see you, but I can hear you. Children, come, come, come over here to Ernesto. Yes, yes. I'm simply getting my bedding ready to rest my head. The day is late and the sun is going down and I can feel it in my bones, it is time for rest. Come closer, children. Yes, yes, yes. And we came closer. Oh, Ernesto, getting your little blanket ready? Ernesto, it's time for sleep. Yes, yes, yes. Come closer. Yes, closer. Approach the gate, children, that I might hear you. The children approach the gate and we're coaching them on. Look. Look, guys, look how cute Ernesto is. He's doing his little blanket. What's that? Wait, wait. Ernesto, what are you doing? What are you doing? Ah, children, look upon my lipstick. Hahaha. I can hear you. I can hear your shrieks. I know you've seen my lipstick. Look upon it, look upon it as I thrust upon my blanket. Children, are you entertained this dude just starts just getting after it. Dude just getting after it. Cuz he has. Dude, he's doing a. He's doing some thrusting. And I said, look, he's just getting all. He's just getting. He. Oh, no, no, he's not, he's not. And the kids are like, what's that? And we're like, no, no, no, no, no. He's just getting comfy. But what's the horrifying red. No, no, that's just his lipstick. It's just his lipstick. He's just getting comfy. And I keep trying to get. I'm like, no, no, come on, kids, it's time to. And they're like, no, no, no. And he's like getting after it. And he gets after it. He gets after it until he's done getting after it. Which actually was not that long. Happened pretty quickly. It happened pretty quick. So, yeah, he. He lulled the children in and he. And once they got close, he said, look at my lipstick, children. And the lipstick was his penis. And he showed the children his penis. Then he chased on his blanket, And it was hard to explain to the kids what was going on. And we were trying to, like, you know, because there's three kids and they're like running around everywhere outside the. So it's really hard. You can't. It's not like we were all sitting single file watching Ernesto get ready for his sleepies. You know, where it would have been easy to just like grab them and turn them. It was like you had to try to wrangle them. And as you're trying to wrangle them, they're like, what's Ernesto doing? What's that? What's that thing? Yeah, I thought about shooting him for what he had shown my son. Thought about doing it right there. Because I felt like it was intentional. I felt like he. He was just laying down. He was just laying down. And he only got up at the sound of my voice. So he's laying down. I walk over, I go, ernesto, my guy. What up, baby boy? We're going. We just came here to say goodbye. And he got up and then that's what he did. So what I'm saying is it felt malicious. It felt like, I don't know, it's a pig, you know? And I hate to attribute this level of cognitive function to an animal, but it felt like he said, oh, oh, you come to say goodbye, huh? Okay. Yeah, I got something for you. Come here, come here. I want to show you something. No, no. Yeah, yeah. Get the kids Close. Come here. No. Yeah, it's cool. It's cool. I promise. Come on. Come close. Let me show you. And it all happened so fast. If I had to count the blasts. Six, seven blaps. How am I supposed to wrangle these kids in six, seven blaps? As we turned, His job was complete. I got a sneeze. Oh, that's not what I meant. Guys, stop that. Six, seven bleps. Anyway, I can also tell you that based off the size of those hogs. Not his hog. I can see how, like, you know, that idea of, like, disposing a body of a body on a pig farm is. The pigs will eat it. Yeah, dude. Yeah, they'll definitely eat it. Yeah, this is that I. There was definitely a demon in that pig. He was so cute, dude. Like, I was petting him and he was like, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink, oink. Like he's making little cute oinks. And I was like, this pig, so cute. He's like, I got cute. I'll show you cute. Anywho, let's get into one video. Afterwards, we went to a nice Peruvian restaurant. And, dude, I had like a seafood. Like a fried seafood platter. It was so good. No, I know. All right, like, come on. It's just like when you dress. Listen to me. Aiming rat. Okay? I was sold a false bill of goods. He had a little house. Do you understand? He had a yard. He had a porch swing. Is it my fault or did they set up false expectations? He was wearing a vest and he was very clean. So, okay, he's clean. He, he, he. He's got a nice house. He's got a porch swing. It's painted. There's beautiful flowers painted on the. On his house. And so. And his name. He's got a name. The other pigs didn't have a name, and rightfully so. They. They were satin slopes, satin slopping mud, disgusting. Stinky. Ernesto wasn't stinky. There was no mud in his enclosure. He was very well groomed. He had a beautiful house that he cared. He had a 30 year mortgage. And I'm supposed to not expect at least some decency? I mean, the other pigs didn't do what Ernesto did. The other pigs didn't do what Ernesto did. I don't know, man. I feel like that's not my fault. Yeah. The only thing he didn't have was a lady. And to take care of business, a man's got to do what a man's got to do. I Guess Dag on it, Ernesto, Mullet Rider says, I'm so lost. I just watched the pig jizz. All right. It's not much to it. I'm sorry. All right, we're going to get into a little bit of content. Nothing too big, just a way to end this. And then we'll go on to the call in segment of the show. Do I not have a tab open for. Damn, I guess I don't. All right, so this is interesting. We actually played something from Homeboy last time, and Homeboy is Return of Cappy, Isaac's army on X. And he posted something like, kind of interesting, and it seems to have stirred the pot a bit. Oh, that's weird. It's not loading. Oh, okay. It is loading. It's perfectly fine. So let's share this tab instead, and we'll make this big. So I don't know what context he posted it in, but you can almost see how. Well, let's show it and we'll get into it. I did not drink the knowledge of the oats, brother. Share your oats with me, brother. So this comes from Isaac's army. And it's what is. What's Judaism's view on Satan? Salacious, no doubt. Let's get into it. Hey, Rabbi, what's Judaism's view on Satan? The devil. I got to admit, they sound annoying, right? Like the voice. And then look at this guy. He does look like a meme. I mean, this man looks like a meme. And I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying he looks like a meme. You know, I don't dislike him, but he looks like a meme. They worship him. Cue the danger music. Stop it. They don't worship him. Cut it out. In Judaism, Hasatan, Satan isn't an enemy waging war on God. He's more like a divine tester. He challenges us so we can show our true character. Unlike pop culture's devil, this Satan serves God's purpose. I mean, once again, we're not saying anything yet about the content, but this guy is doing no favors to himself with this delivery method. I mean, I don't know. What is this? What is this accent? I don't know what's going on here, but his whole, like, everything. His. His visage, right? Physiognomy, alarms going off. The. The delivery alarms going off. It's more like a divine tester. He challenges us. So, yes, good sir, we can show our true character. Unlike pop culture's devil, this Satan serves God's purpose, and it's weird too, because why does he. That little smile. I mean, I feel like you can make a bunch of memes out of this guy's face over and over again. Devil this. Why do you. Why does he gets happy when he says devil? I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying he's weird. Satan serves God's purpose, highlighting our moral choices rather than fighting against God. Yeah, I mean, you know, half a million views on that one, and it's. It's just weird the way he presents it. Nasty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to hear him say that word too. I bet you he says it like that. Nasty. Satan serves God's purpose. Yes. Come closer, children, that I may goon before you. But yeah, I mean, like, I. I don't disagree with that. I disagree with the. With the pleasure with which he says it. But, like, if you just look at Job, it's like the whole story starts off with Satan being like, I've been walking around, I've been upon the earth looking at your creation. And God's like, oh, word. You seen Job? You've seen Job, right? And he's like, yes, I've seen Job while I was walking around creation. And he's like, job crushes, right? Loyal servant crushes hard. And he's like, yes, he does crush. But I bet you he wouldn't crush if his life sucked. God's like, nah, dude, he'd still crush. Like, you just don't get it. Like, me and Joe were tight. He crushes pretty hard. He's like, yes, but if his life were to suck badly, man, I bet you he would not crush so hard. I bet he would even curse you if his life sucked. And God's like, think so, huh? It's interesting. Maybe, maybe, maybe you go down there, maybe you. Maybe, maybe we'll make his life suck and we'll see if Job curses me. So, like, yeah, that's. That is kind of, you know, what happens. Yeah, I'll take that bet, you son of a bitch. So he, you know, Job's life sucks. His fucking family gets crushed by a house. He loses all. I mean, Job's like a super rich dude he crushes really hard. He's like the richest dude in the land, and everything just goes fucking awry for him, you know? And then by the end of it, but within that context, it's like, yeah, Satan's a. And he. He's seems to be there to test you. So, I don't know, Raven casually trying to flex his shoes. Did I do that, by the way, these, These. These are basically kaka stompers. Now. Wait, camera three, go switch. Now camera two. There we go. I took these things and. And stepped all through the shit yard, Vernesto's enclosure, and everything with them. So. Yeah, I mean, I. I don't disagree with that. I think it's just, like, when it comes from the mouth of, like, this dude. You go, you Jew, you. You worship Satan. Yeah. Satan's goal is to steal souls from God. And God is like, okay, give it a shot. It. Let's see. Biblical Hitman. It's Steven. Sweet. Steven says, Job teaches something so valuable, I use it with everything in my life. I cherish what God allows to be done to us. It's very important for growth with God. Yeah, you praise him in the good times, you praise him in the bad times. It's like a trusting process. We actually talked a lot about that at church recently. Yeah. So I don't disagree with. With this Jew, but somebody needs to give him, like, real PR lessons, right? God gives us Jesus Christ for means of salvation. Exactly. It's right there if you want it. It's given freely. It's just like the way the guy delivers it. He's like. He seems like a super villain. All right, we're gonna take a quick break. I'm gonna make a pee pees, and then we'll be back, and we're gonna open the lines, and we'll talk about whatever you guys want to talk about. Also, Stephen, you got to get back on the show, dude, soon. We got to see you IRL in the studio. The hell are you doing? Work life. Why aren't you here? Should be here right now. All right, guys, we'll be back in about three minutes. I'm gonna go make a pee pees. Now we back, baby. Feeling refresh. Empty of urine. A little recalibrated. We're gonna talk about. Or we're gonna address some of these donations. While we're addressing the donations, if you feel compelled, you can call the number at the bottom of the screen. 321-209-8551. If you want to leave a voice memo, maybe you don't have time for a phone call. 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I was like, boobies? What are you talking about, dude? And I think that little insecurity where I'm, like, a little bit worried is, like, probably somewhere in my subconscious. I'm like, you've said a thing or two you shouldn't have said. You're worried this kid's gonna parrot it, and that's your indicator that you shouldn't have said it, right? I don't know. But thank you, Scott. That means a lot, man. I really appreciate it. If I can get out of this life having been regarded as a good dude, was a good father, was a good husband, and brought people to Christ, that's it. Like, there's been a couple of times in my life where somebody told me that I would, like. It's like, you know, certain compliments, they come and go, and you forget them, and it doesn't mean anything. And then other compliments, they stick with you. Like, one of them. There was this chick that I worked with, and she was a nice girl. And it was a shop, right? Like a mechanic, fabrication shop. So as soon as a woman walks through the door, it's like, everybody starts getting weird. Cause it's just a bunch of dudes. And, like, I'm a married man. So there was no. No ounce of weirdness in me. I just treated her like I treated everybody else. I was polite, I was nice, and that's it. You just kind of do, like, the bare minimum. Like, I'm polite and I'm nice, and I'm not one of these dudes that are, like, hitting on you because I'm. And he's like, it didn't stop other dudes in relationships from hitting on her, but I didn't. I never did it. And. And one day, her time there came to an end. She went to go move on to a, you know, a career, and she came up to me, and all she said was, you're a good man. And I was like, thanks. And then she walked away, and I was like, thanks. Thanks, man. And, like, there's been a couple of times in my life where, like, I managed to step the right way and do the right thing, and somebody went out of their way to say, you're a good person, I'm like, fucking thanks. Like, if I can get out of here with a couple of those in my back pocket, a couple of people I brought to Christ, and if God looks at me and says, you're a good dad and you were a good husband, like, fucking yeah, dude. That's it. That's all I want. You can't take any of this shit with you. But if I could just, like, get out of this and be like, I did a good job, Did a good job. Like, I was good to the people that mattered, and I bought people in the right direction. And maybe, like, a little icing on the top. Like, couple of people said, like, yo, this dude's a solid dude. That's it. I'm content. So good dad is real high on my list, and it's not easy. Thank you for the $4.54 donation, Scott. For the suckafish off dot com. Suckafish off dot com. Don't call me fat, Raven. I'm actually in good shape. This fucking thing just does nothing for me, huh? This camera. I just look like I've got breasts. I'll see you in purgatory. I don't know what it means. I don't know what that means. Emily, thank you for the $4.54 donation. All right, cool. So that's it on cash app for now, and then we're gonna go to these things in a second. Let me just check. Venmo. I don't know. I'm just like. Just a conspiracy. Conspiracy cut. He's like, why? You look fine. I'm like, I don't know. It's just, like, the posture. What are you doing in here? You're interrupting my show. You. No, I'm still doing my show. It's very important, and you're just interrupting. You can't look at it.

Matt (86:27)

What are you talking about?

David (86:29)

Getting out of this life and having just been a good dude, a good dad, a good husband, and brought people to Christ. That's it. That's it. Dude, get out of here. Stop coming in here. Jeez, man. Okay, we're on Venmo now. Stop it. What are you doing? Atma. You're sending too much money, dude. He sent me $3 and 33 cents. We counted that last time. This time he said, this is for Jack. Merry Christmas. This is for you, little man. Not Fart David's money. All my son's money is my money. All my son's money is my money. Atma. And I'm gonna buy something nice for me. I'm gonna buy something not for Fart David. How dare you, sir. $10 donation from Atma. Thank you very much. And then there's another $28 from Atma. Mary, did you know? Merry Christmas. This one's for you. No, $38 is for me. Now. This one's 28 bucks. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Dude. Mary, did you know it's a banger? Mary, did you know is a banger? Didn't know. Didn't know. Conspiracy Cutie. I could. I could dox you right now. Got your full name and address. Thank you, Conspiracy Cutie, for the $10 donation. It just says NDS. I'll take it. Thank you very much. I'm not going to skip over Rumble. Stop it, guys. I wouldn't do that. Let me check PayPal real quick. Then we'll do Rumble. Then we'll get on to some of these voice memos. What's the call in number? 321-209-8551. If you want to call in while the Lines are closed and leave a voicemail. You can do that. And we'll play it live on air, and I'll talk to you just like you're really here. Okay, nothing on PayPal. Let's check Rumble real quick. Let's check Rumble. Here we go. Boom. And Rumble's weird, man. Okay, here's one. Subliminal messenger with a $2 donation. He says it's cheaper to fly Scott in for repairs, to be honest. Well, if I still have it, I'll have Scott take a look at it when he shows up for Bohemian Grove. Right? Because certainly Scott is going to make this brohemian Grove. Right, Scott? Right. Dude, I'm telling you, the way that I'm setting it up this time, like, it's a hang. We're all going to be able to really. Like, I forgot who said it earlier, but they said community. Shout out to whoever said community earlier. Like, that's it, man. Like, we've built this thing up. We've got a spotlight on it. You know, We've proven it that it works. But now it's like, I don't have to prove anything anymore. We don't need all these big comedians. We don't got to do all this shit. This is about the NDS community, the dangerous retards. That's what we're doing this time. It's gonna be a lot of fun. So, Scott, if you miss this dude, I think I'm gonna be offended. I think I would be offended. BLGH. With the $2 donation, he says, I'm about to start sending Raven boxes of mini rubber ducks. No, no, dude. If we get a Jeep, we're not doing rubber ducks. And I've explicitly stated that. And of course, my kid is like, but rubber ducks. Because he sees it sometimes in a parking lot. And I go, no, that's gay. And we don't do that gay shit. Don't send me rubber ducks. I will not put them in my Jeep. If I get a Jeep. I don't want rubber ducks. It is crazy how women just, like, took over Jeeps. Why, dude? Why? Okay, that's it. So we had those two. Thank you guys very much. And we're going to check out some voicemails. Send your rubber ducks to the standard coffee shop. Don't. I'll tell you what, though, guys. So a long time ago, you guys were asking if. If we had, like, P.O. boxes, we got this. We got the standard coffee shop in Lady Lake, Florida. You could send stuff here. Scott sent Lacroix. Lacroix. And in hot dogs. Actually, you know what? I'll be right back. I'm gonna go grab myself a LaCroix. I'll be right back. I'm not even gonna put music on. I don't. Don't be stressed out. Wow. All right, we're back now. Ah, That's nice, dude. I'll tell you what, getting a sparkling water sponsor would be great, but, like, I'm not gonna lie, when Lacroix, because there's nothing in this, right? It's calorie zero. Everything is 00, zero down the. But when you get to ingredients.

Matt (91:48)

This.

David (91:48)

Is where things get a little bit screwy because this is flavored like raz cranberry. So the ingredients are only. And it's even put only in a different color font. Like it really wants you to focus on that and not what comes next. Only carbonated water. K, K. Naturally. Naturally essenced. The fuck does that mean? What does that mean? Naturally essenced. The fuck is that? Essenced. What does that mean? And it's got an asterisk next to that word. Essence. Oh, 100%. Plastic lining in the thing. Yeah, 100%. But what does that mean? What does it mean to be naturally essenced, I wonder? I don't know. All right, so. So let's play a couple of voicemails before we open up these lines. 32-1-209-8551. Give us a call. The lines are closed right now, but. But when I open them, or I will open them after we go through these voice memos. I got a little gassy. I got a little lacroix on me. Get a little gassy. All right, let's see, we got one right here. And we gonna play. Oh, wait, Share this tab instead. Mary, did you know that you're a baby boy?

Emily (93:23)

Hey, David weeper at Rock Band Church, it's Emily, your friendly neighborhood Catholic.

David (93:30)

What does that mean? Weber.

Matt (93:34)

At.

David (93:34)

At. At Rock Band Church. I mean, I guess they do a little rock band stuff. Shout out to the 501C3 system.

Emily (93:42)

Mary knew. For the love of baby Jesus, Mary knew. She knew and she still said yes. Which is why we love her, which is why we venerate her, which is why she is better than all other women on the planet. And we could never. Mary knew. She knew the whole time. She knew the whole time and she said yes. I'm very glad that you were moved by dispute, but I also want you to acknowledge that that is a manufactured experience. The church people got together and said what would get them in their fifis. And they conjured up this little girl who seems like a ghost to get you in your fifis, to get money in the plate.

David (94:26)

That could be. That could be. I mean, you know, I know every. Whatever. They have the tithing and stuff, and I never give. And there was actually a video that Matt was showing us recently where, like, this pastor, I guess he's a pastor, he's talking about, like. So, you know, a lot of these concepts are new to me because I wasn't raised in the church, but, like, this idea of like, a 10% tithe, I had no idea there was, like, a percentage on it, by the way. I don't think I've given more than maybe $10. I had a $10 bill on me one time, and I gave $10. But, like, otherwise I don't carry cash. And there's like a QR code that they put on the big screen. The big screen on the big stage with the lights, and. And I was like, oh, okay, QR code. Like that kind of. That's easy and convenient. And then I scanned it, and it was like. It wanted me to download an app to be able to do it. And I was like, sorry, you're not getting any money now. But this pastor, he's like, talking on this video. Not at my church. This is just like, something on Instagram or some shit. And he's talking about, like, the importance of the 10% tithe. But then he goes on to say, like, that you're being greedy if you treat 10% as a ceiling. He's like, 10% isn't the ceiling. 10% is the base. The minimum is a 10% tithe. There's no limit on the ceiling. And if you don't do this, then, you know, it's seen as some sort of. You know, he was. He was basically saying it was greedy. And I was like, that's fucking crazy, dude. That seems crazy to me. Not nice guy, where there are two or more gathered in my name. Like, you think prots don't have Jesus in their midst when they gather in his name? Yeah, and that's actually something that came up during the last sermon because it was heavy on community. And I'm not going to lie, like, I've given the church a lot of shit, and I kind of make fun of it. And, like. And I've said in passing, like, the main reason that we go to church is for the community of it. But then this whole sermon was, like, on community. And he comes from Pastor Rick, and Pastor Rick is a dude, like, I 100% believe he's after the heart of God. Like, this is not a man who's faking the funk. And he's talking about this community and just kind of like how we need each other. And. And it came at a time where, like, I'm going to be perfectly honest with you guys. Like, my wife has been very down in the dumps. You know, it's not easy to move from one state to another state to another state. And I'm sure a lot of you guys can. This resonates with you in the chat to keep relationships, you know, so. So it's like, I'm out here, I'm doing this thing. She feels isolated. And so now I'm looking at the church as, like, a lifeline for my wife and for what she's going through. And then it just so happens, like. Cause we had had a whole conversation about it, like, the night before, and then we go to church, and then the whole thing is about community and people who are lonely. That was what the sermon was about. And then it talked about, you know, Jesus wanting oneness in God for us. Like, he has oneness in God. Like. Like the way that the Father is in him is the way that he wants that for us. So, you know, so he was talking about, like, the idea of, like, the Trinity, like, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. And, you know, really just the concept of, like, this is a circle and that we've been invited into this circle. So it's crazy. Like, he's just talking about all this stuff and, like, the loneliness that people experience and the isolation that people experience and that we have the. The antidote. The antidote is oneness in Christ and. And this community of people who share in that. And so it was like the first time where I was like, oh, like, maybe there's something to this. Nah, see, like, that's an interesting thing, is this is the preacher man says the money is the root of all evil. And he passes around the collection plate and tells you to pay his tithes sort of, kind of. But like, it's the. There you go. Not nice Guy says the. The love of money is the root of all evil. Money is the thing that allows us to, you know, do what we have to do as we pass through this place. But it is the love of money that is the root of all evil. Or at least that's what the Bible says, which makes a lot of sense to me. Spellbound Bear says, I lost my core group of friends for Sending a single Bible verse. What? That sucks. That sucks. I hate that. Don't look at my moose knuckle, Scott. You nasty, nasty man. Look at my moose knuckle. Not nice guy says, make another baby only if. If God wants it to happen, it'll happen. So, yeah, I don't know. Just to say, like, in some ways, I would say we go to the church for the community because there's not a tremendous focus on scripture. What is interesting is like, the way that I look at the songs because, you know, it's like, Matt will make fun of it. It's like five songs and then whatever. But I don't think I. Since I'm. Since it's all new to me. Like, I'm looking at the lyrics, I'm reading the lyrics and I'm trying to understand the concepts. So, like, there's something for me to grasp there as I'm listening to the songs and I'm like, that's an interesting thing to say. And I could see how, you know, yada, yada, yada. So I'm like thinking a lot about this. Thinking a lot about this. And I think what's great about that is like, while I'm there, while I'm in church, I'm just hyper focused on God, thinking about God. My thoughts are oriented towards God. Constantly, constantly, constantly. I'm trying to understand the concepts in the song, you know, and then you're going through whatever you're going through the short sermon where we are analyzing scripture and stuff. But like, I would say I'm going there for the community. Then all of a sudden we go there, we have this, and it's like, yeah, dude, yeah, the community's huge. Like, I look at you guys and I go, the community is huge. That's what this is all about. Have her join the discord chats too. You know what it is? Sometimes I think. I don't know. I don't know how to explain it, but it's like. Like right now she's at the church and she's helping, and I'm praying that, like, she meets somebody who she connects with. I don't want her to feel like all of our. I don't want her to feel like any of her friends are just a friend of mine who becomes a friend of hers. And I don't think that that's how she sees it, but, like, I don't know, Isolation is. Is hard and loneliness is really hard. And, You know, maybe this thing that. That I've kind of made fun of for A time serves a greater purpose than I understand. Which is highly likely, right? Okay, let's finish this.

Emily (102:04)

You live in Florida?

David (102:06)

Yes.

Emily (102:06)

There's no shortage of wonderful Catholic churches. For the love of baby Jesus, find your way to one of them during this Advent season. Okay? I love you. Goodbye.

David (102:19)

Bye. Bye. Advent season, I don't know what that is. I don't think I'll be leaving my church anytime soon. I just don't think that there's any reason to leave my church. For whatever reason, God aimed me towards this one. I went my whole life without going to a church, and then I walked through the doors of this one. And what I find over and over again, it's happened a lot. It's happened a lot is. God speaks directly to me and my wife through the sermons. It happened the very first time I walked through the doors of that place. It happened the second time I walked through the doors of that place. It's happened several times since I've started going. And then. And it's like when I say directly to, it's like, yeah, the sermons speak to us. They speak to our hearts. You know, it's the word of God if you're reading from the Bible. So of course it speaks to you. But not like this. It is like I will be talking about a very specific thing the day before, and then I will walk into that church and the sermon will be directly about the thing I was talking about the day before. So it's working. This place allows God to reach me and talk directly to me. So then I'm gonna just keep going. Namin. Okay, let's see. We got another one. Thank you for the voicemail. Let's go on to this one and.

Andrew (104:11)

We gonna play yo, yo, last week and I was just trying to trigger folks with trigger words like dispensation and harpazo and rapture and hell yeah, I don't know what the other one is. Support the Jews or whatever, but my thought was, is that, oh, I remember.

David (104:36)

That because I was like, I don't know. I don't know what the hell. What this means. Harpazo. And nobody would give me an answer. And sure I'd say Google away, but you guys are like, google. And you're not answering me when I ask, what's a harpazo?

Andrew (104:49)

I don't think the pedophiles are going to get outed until after the Protestant pre tribulational rapture.

David (104:59)

Oh, interesting. We have a pre rapture. A pre trib rapture enjoyer. But the rapture Is not biblical. All right? Yeah, I know. It's fine. Relax. The word rapture doesn't show up in screen. Yeah, I know. It's. It's fine. It's a word that means, like supernaturally moved from one location to another, which has happened. But okay, hey, maybe it's not a thing. Might not be a thing at all. Just don't hurt me. Don't get so upset about it, guys.

Andrew (105:27)

And so what that's going to do is after it happens, they're gonna use the pedophiles as a reason to take down all the governments of the world and install Antichrist and the ten nation Confederacy or whatever.

David (105:51)

Oh, that's very interesting. Yeah, I could see that as. What the fuck? Oh, my God. Somebody's airplane to. To this TV accidentally. So, like, I can't see the chat anymore. I can't see anything. I could just see an airplay passcode because Orin is out there with his iPad and he's trying to connect to my tv and I don't know what to do about that. I guess I'll just hit the back button. Okay, we're good. Stop doing that. That's an interesting line of thought, though. Well, let's finish this and then we'll talk about it.

Andrew (106:38)

And that is kind of like Star Wars Empire taking over the Senate, remember?

David (106:47)

Yeah.

Andrew (106:49)

That was what I was getting last week. So I'm gonna get at it again this week. And I'm totally not baked, even though I'm calling from northeast Colorado. All right, carry on.

David (107:05)

I like this guy. This guy's super high. No, it's an interesting thought. Star wars was definitely gay as fuck. Oh, my God. God, this guy keeps trying to connect to my tv. Stop. So stupid. Yeah, but that's an interesting. That's an interesting. I'm gonna get mad. I'm gonna get mad. I'm gonna. Interesting series of events. Pre Trib Rapture. Good Christians, good followers of Christ. People who have accepted the Lord as their. Their savior, who have asked the Holy Spirit to come into them. Dude, this is actually getting very frustrating. I'm gonna go out there. You know what it is? It's these old people and they don't know how to work technology. And he has no idea right now that he's repeatedly trying to airdrop to my fucking tv. I know you guys can't see it, but, like, getting mad. Boomers. Raven, I just tagged you in a post about how they added Israel into the new living Testament. Is that what. It's a new living translation where it shouldn't be. Son of a bitch. Why would they do that? Why would they do that? Go to Settings TV and turn off wifi. Maybe I'll do that. Well, we'll see what happens. If it happens again, then, you know, whatever.

Andrew (108:56)

But.

David (108:59)

I like the series. You know, as far as a schizophrenic conspiracy line of thought goes, I really enjoy that. I really enjoy that. Do you want us to prank call the shop? No, don't. They're very stressed out out there. I can hear. Mason and Matt are up to their ears. Super. I. Should I just yell the code? They did it again. No, no, because then he'll just connect to this tv. They don't. Yeah, I don't want that to happen. They'll be. They'll be totally swamped and then you'll. You'll prank call them and then they'll get all stressed out and then they'll get mad at me. It's from all of our reviews. This is from everybody reviewing the the Standard Coffee Shop on Google and on Yelp. Thank you guys so much. If you're listening and you want to figure out a way to contribute and you ain't got the money to do it or whatever a great way to do it is, go drop Matt a five star review on Google. It's awesome. It's. And. And you know, drop a little NDS at the end of your thing so we know it's from you. Maybe I'll read them next time. We'll come on and we'll read some of the reviews. Oh, my God, dude, I'm getting really mad. What I don't understand is, like, how many times do you have to try the same thing and it's not working and you just keep doing it? Remember when people used to say that dumbass shit, that the definition of insanity was trying the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result? And it's like, no, dude, that's not the definition of insanity. Why did anybody say that? That's so annoying. Like, that just begin. Like it's literally not the definition of insanity. But people used to say that. People used to love saying that shit in the early 2000s. You know what the definition of insanity is? It's doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results. Shut up. Shut up. That's not even true. I don't know where that comes from, but that's not true. Why do they say that? All right, let's check. We're gonna refresh it because I could have sworn I Saw an extra voice memo come in. No extra voice memo came in. All right, guys, we're gonna take it off of Do Not Disturb, so you guys can call. The lines are now officially open. And speaking of open, Matt's opening the door and being very disrespectful. What's up, Matt?

Matt (111:34)

Are you done or close to done?

David (111:36)

Am I close? Am I done or close to done? No, I'm not done or close to done. You want to sit in?

Matt (111:40)

No.

David (111:41)

Why not?

Matt (111:41)

You have a lot of time left?

David (111:43)

Not necessarily. I mean, I have. My wife is helping out with the church, so, like, I'm just kind of chilling here after this. I have to do some work.

Matt (111:50)

What do you want to talk about?

David (111:51)

Well, right now I'm waiting for a call to come in if you want to grab your headphones. I believe those are your headphones, or they're in the drawer and you could plug them in. And I think I might even be able to turn on this extra camera and aim it at you. Oh, I got a call coming in, so whatever you're planning on doing, stop interrupting me. All right? Thank you for calling the Raven. I am the Raven. What's your name? Where you're from?

Emily (112:15)

Hi, this is Nola from slower lower Delaware.

David (112:19)

What's up? Nola from something something Delaware? What's going on?

Emily (112:23)

Nothing much, man. Thank you so much for all you do. I just had a baby, and thank you for keeping me company during pregnancy and after birth and all that.

David (112:33)

Congratulations. Is it a boy or a girl?

Emily (112:36)

Yeah, he's. We named him Jasher after the Book of Jasher.

David (112:40)

Named him Jasher.

Emily (112:42)

Yeah.

David (112:43)

That's so cool, dude.

Matt (112:45)

She's definitely conspiracy theory chick.

David (112:47)

I like that, though. That's awesome.

Emily (112:49)

And can I say something? So before we named them, I prayed. I was like, is this the name you want for my son, Lord? And where I worked in the deli, they hired a jasher right before I left.

David (113:02)

Dude, what are the odds of that? Jasher is not a common game.

Emily (113:05)

He has never met a Jasher. I have never met a Jasher. So I was like, all right. That's what I needed.

David (113:11)

That's awesome.

Emily (113:13)

Yeah. Let me tell you, I am O negative. I was a gate kid. My carry is a Glock 43X.

David (113:21)

Nice.

Emily (113:22)

I'm missing a tooth. It's number five. I don't know if that's one you're missing.

David (113:26)

I never counted. Are you my sister? It's a solid.

Emily (113:29)

I don't know, but I. I also had an Uncle Gary who I was Very close with and was very formative in my life that when I pray, I like, ask the Lord to pass messages too, because I was like uncomfortable with like praying directly to my uncle. And I remember you saying that once and I'm like, oh, yeah, that's exactly what.

David (113:50)

Yeah. Because I'm like, I just know that there are all these familiar spirits that are like, pose as your family members. And I'm just like, so as far as I'm concerned, Jesus is the liaison between me and my deceased uncle. So if I want to pass any messages and pray for him and pray for his soul or tell him that I'm doing good, I do it through Jesus. And then I go like. And also, you don't have to feel the need to call me back because I don't know that it's going to be you.

Emily (114:12)

Yeah, exactly. But I just want to say it was as much as I missed like the timeline cleanse and the low income prime apes. I am so proud of you for doing what the Holy Spirit tells you to do. Like when he puts something on your heart, like that's, that's what the Christian walks about, is refining ourselves so that when we meet him, you know, we can have the ironed out robes and yeah, I'm really, really proud of you for moving in that way and following what the Lord tells you to do. It's, you know, as hard as changes. So you are absolutely crushing.

David (114:51)

Well, thank you, Nola. I appreciate that. It's a, is a clunky transition, no doubt. But I'm glad that, you know, I didn't lose a swath because you never know, like what kind of, I don't know, like listeners you're cultivating. And I don't get like, so this is a great way to get a bead on, like, who the listeners are, right? Getting to talk to you guys like this. And, and I didn't really have that before, so I have no idea if I've just cultivated a bunch of people that are just there to watch me say the craziest on earth and if I'm gonna lose everybody. But that didn't matter what, what mattered is what was being put on my heart. So, you know, you got to go and have faith that it's going to work out. And I'm so, I'm just pumped that so many people stuck along for the ride.

Matt (115:35)

How can people send her stuff? No, people in the chat are saying they want to send her goodies for the mama and the baby. How do we do that, Nola?

David (115:42)

Are on Patreon.

Emily (115:45)

No, I'm the one. I wrote in to Mason about the car. I, like, don't have any Internet account.

Matt (115:53)

No way. This is that check. Wait, that. This is me with the crazy story?

Emily (115:59)

Yeah.

David (115:59)

Wow.

Matt (116:00)

Mason, the chick that wrote the thing is on right now and she's solid.

David (116:04)

Wait, you don't have. So what platforms are you on, Nola? Because I can send you some stuff. Like, we can get you into the Patreon so you have access to, like, the chat and stuff like that. And I can give it to you.

Emily (116:16)

Email, like, that's it.

David (116:19)

Well, if you have enough Internet access to be doing this, then you have enough Internet access to be on the Patreon. I'd like to send you a free Patreon link. What's your. Actually, you know what? I have your email. If I look up Nola, it'll probably pull you up. I'm going to send you one because I think you should be in the community. I could see right now, if you watch the show, like, there's all these. All these messages coming in. You're. You're. You're. You're a perfect fit for everybody. You're just like us. So come and hang and. And, you know, get a little community out of it. And. Yeah, I think. I think people would like to send you stuff for the baby Jasher is what you said, right?

Emily (116:58)

Yeah, Jasher. Jasher Dean.

David (117:01)

That's awesome. That's awesome.

Emily (117:02)

Yeah.

David (117:03)

Thank you, Nola. Thank you for the kind words. And. And God bless you. And God bless little. Little Jasher. Um, that's a. That's a really. I think that was. You know, as far as I'm concerned, you don't bump into jashers. I've never bumped into a jasher, no. So for that to happen, you know, all of the sudden, one shows up in real life when you're asking God, like, if this is the name that you should pick. That's huge, dude.

Emily (117:25)

Yeah. And to take my place, like, in the department I worked at in this random store, you know, awfully specific.

David (117:32)

No.

Emily (117:33)

All right. Yeah. Was.

David (117:35)

All right.

Emily (117:36)

Let me share one more thing with. So I don't know if you've ever heard of this Pastor Pete Ruckman. He was. He's my favorite pastor. He's like, you know, got some Israel views and whatnot, but it's like he came to it organically. The dude, like, read the Bible, like, hundreds of times and could make connections that you would never think of. And when I. I got saved, like, listening to One of his sermons because it, it helped me walk through that door. And what he, the serm. We are all Barabbas like Barabbas the murderer who's allowed to be let go in Jesus's place, truly understood the crucifixion. And he says, bar is son of Abba, the father. So it's like we're all like sons of the father.

David (118:24)

Oh, that's what bar means.

Matt (118:26)

Nola, you know what they, well, they say, yeah, he was the first one who was able to look at the cross and say, I should have been the one there. He. He took my spot. He was the first one to be able to, to say that and to see it that way. They said maybe he's like rioting and things are going crazy and he's going with like the crowd, he's doing his thing and then maybe runs across the front of the cross and looks at Jesus and said, says, oh, damn, I, I was supposed to be on that cross. Yeah, exactly.

Emily (118:59)

And yeah, when I saw that for the first time, that was like this, that was the step I needed. And you know, the rest is history. But yeah, so much.

Matt (119:11)

One thing about the NDS fans is like real recognized real. That's like the more, that's like the.

David (119:16)

More I told you. You thought they were, you thought they were crazy people. No idea.

Matt (119:19)

I'm not saying they're not crazy. I'm just saying that like from all different kind of walks of life and from all different places, like that is a thing, bro. I was like, real recognized real. And that's really what people want. Like they don't care. Social status or money status or like whatever, just people. Just real people. Just like real people.

David (119:36)

That's it.

Emily (119:37)

That's it exactly. Real recognized real. That is true. And you all are some real ones, so thank you so much. All right, I hope you have a great day, guys. Take care.

David (119:47)

You too. Nola. I'm working on sending that to you actually right now, so you should get it in a few minutes and, and that way for the next show. We're going to do a show later on today and you could hop into the Patreon and hang out with, you know, with, with a lot more like minded folks.

Emily (120:02)

I appreciate you, man. Thank you.

David (120:04)

No problem. Appreciate you, Nola. Have a good one.

Emily (120:07)

You as well.

David (120:08)

Bye. I just want to turn the line off really quick because I got to make it a point to do this. If I don't do this now, then I'm, I'm.

Matt (120:16)

Well, in the meanwhile, I gotta ask the chat. Guys, what do you guys think about me and Raven's upcoming show that we're doing together?

David (120:22)

Let me. Let me. Wait, no, I want to turn this camera on.

Matt (120:26)

Well, no, you don't have to. I'm just saying, what do you guys think about it? Because I must have came late and didn't see where you talked about our new show.

David (120:33)

No, I didn't talk about the show yet, bro.

Matt (120:34)

What?

David (120:35)

Yeah.

Matt (120:36)

What?

David (120:36)

Yeah, I didn't do it.

Matt (120:38)

Wait, so what do you guys think about the new show for me and the Raven?

David (120:43)

Oh, damn. It just worked like that. How crazy was. That's so nice, dude. You just turn on the camera and go ahead and look at that, dude. Hell yeah, man. That's awesome. That was really.

Matt (120:53)

Okay, guys, me and the Raven are doing a show. Do you guys want to. You guys think that's cool?

David (120:57)

Go ahead, tell. Tell them. They don't even know what the show is. I've not talked about it at all because I'm like, you know, whatever, bro.

Matt (121:02)

Why am I so low on the totem pole of your life?

David (121:05)

It's like, not a big deal. It's like, whatever, dude.

Matt (121:07)

I know.

David (121:08)

That's how I feel.

Matt (121:08)

To me, it's like I've been telling everybody, yeah, me and the Raven are having this new show, and you shouldn't, like.

David (121:13)

No, it's like, it's not that I don't care, but it's just like, you know.

Matt (121:15)

Well, can you kind of explain what it is?

David (121:17)

Because I don't really. So. So what it's called to be is like, you know, like, Matt is super into. He's like. He really loves him a lot. He loves him so much. It's like Timothy Alberino. He's like, I really like the way that he dresses and, like, he carries a whip in public and stuff like that. And that's, like, super cool.

Matt (121:33)

Oh, no, I'm just saying he's done rad stuff. He's done really rad documentaries.

David (121:37)

That's it. So rad. So. So. So basically what we're gonna do is, like, there's all these. Yeah. Documentaries. There's all these DVDs and such. So Matt has been trying to get me to watch them, and I haven't watched him because I just don't. It's like, you know, it's a. It's a. It's a long time. It's an hour and a half. Something like that.

Matt (121:54)

They are great documentaries, dude.

David (121:56)

I don't watch anything. So, like. Like, for example, somebody's Been telling me to watch this whole series, and I put this whole series on. Haven't watched any of the series.

Matt (122:03)

Is too much. This is just, like, one thing.

David (122:05)

Well, it's just like. What I mean to say is it's on in the background. I'm not doing anything. Like, it's just. It's just back there, and I'm not watching it at all. So. Okay.

Matt (122:12)

Tell the people I gotta go, but.

David (122:14)

Okay. All right, so I'll tell him. Yeah, I'm fine. I set up the camera and everything for you. Just leave. Okay. Shut that door or don't shut the door. I don't really care what you do. So let me do something real quick. I can't see. I want to set this so that it stops looking at his empty chair. Is that it?

Andrew (122:32)

No.

David (122:33)

Is that it? All right, fine. We'll do that. So. So we're gonna do, like, a watch party. We're gonna get together and we're gonna watch Indiana moons documentaries. And I. Look, I don't really dislike Timothy Alberino. I like to make Matt think that I hate him. And. Because it's fun, but I don't hate him. So. So, yeah, I mean, it's probably a lot of really fascinating stuff. He's got these old DVDs before he got big. And we're gonna watch him. I've never watched him before. Matt's a big fan, and we're just gonna give commentary. So, you know, I asked once upon a time if you guys would be into that, and you said you'd be into it. So I hope it's still, you know, something that you guys would like. Also, by the way, when we move to this, remember I told you guys at the top of the show about the advertising and what we're going to do with sponsors, and it's going to be less ads, which means less people are going to convert to Patreon because it's going to be manageable. So in order to incentivize people to come to Patreon, given that we have, like, a thousand paying members on Patreon, like, that's a great audience, we're gonna start offering at least one Patreon exclusive episode per week. You know, to incentivize people to come over, but to also give you guys something, like, it's nice that you want to support us, but we don't give you, like, a whole lot. We give you, like, the live chat, and that's cool. But, like, what if we got. What if we gave you guys, like, look, you give us money without you guys, like, most of what we do is impossible. What if we gave you guys, like, yeah, here's. Here's a whole ass like, exclusive episode. Doesn't air anywhere else. It's just for you guys. I think that would be cool. Sounds awful. Can't wait. Thank you, Avon Rat. What the hell was I talking about? Oh, yeah, no, hold on. He. He's. He got me here. And I got to send this to Nola. So I'm just gonna mumble this as I go through it for Nola and Jasher. I'm gonna screw this up. J A S H E R yeah, yeah. Okay, which tier are you gifting? Well, let's. Let's give her full blown dangerous retard. For how many months? We're gonna do it for a year. 12 months, 13 months, 15 months, 16 months? I don't know. Whatever. Must. Can't exceed 12 months. Okay, fine. 12 months. How many people can claim it? One people. God bless you and thank you. Promotion start. What's today, the 24th? Yeah, let's get it. Okay, cool. Create gift link. Okay, now we're gonna copy the link. Guys, I'm sorry, but I just like, if I don't do this right now, I won't remember to do it. And we gotta get Nola into. Because that's my sister. She's missing the same tooth and everything. We gotta get her into the community. So there we go. Boom. Send. Now, Nola, it's not easy. It's not easy to get into. Into like the stream yard thing. But like, give it some time. Have some patience. If you have any questions. The dangerous retards are awesome. Every time I see somebody ask something and like, we're not able to get to him, the community always responds right away and goes, this is how you do it. So, like, guys, help Nola through. Let's get her in here. Sister Mommy. Raven, that's Sister Mommy, Nola's sister mommy. All right. She's the homie. And, and I know some of you express wanting to send gifts to. To little Jasher Banger name. You know, maybe you guys can figure that out. Yeah, if you could send her. Excuse me. If you could send her the Telegram link. Z Man is, is our moderator for Telegram. He does a great job. Z Man just does a great job. What a good guy. And so they got you, Nola. They'll. They'll help you out. Scott says, save me a spot on Wednesday, Raven, we'll talk finding a car for you. Well, it's like, dude, I gotta fight. Like, when I have to find a car, I gotta find a car like immediately because I have to drive to Boca. So I know I'm gonna be really, like, limited. I'm hoping I see Nola's name pop up soon in the stream yard chat. Okay, so let's open the lines again. Sorry, guys. I just. I wanted, like I said, wanted to make sure I did that because if I didn't, I was gonna forget. I was gonna forget. Oh, my God, Matt. Matt really runs his shop like a tyrant. He really. Oh, my. My wife has sent wonderful pictures of the decorations that they got up in the. In the. In the church. Oh, it's so nice. It's so nice. I don't know how I could show these on screen. I don't think I can. That's nice. They got three Christmas trees. Three, Three. Three offerings to Nimrod. Nola says Raven is gay. There we go. We got her. She's in here. Here we go. That was fast. I don't know if I trust that that's actually nola. We just downloaded Telegram and look for the chat. Haven't used. I know, it's like, it's confusing. One day I'd like to get it all consolidated on like an NDS website where we have like the chat and everything built in and we don't have to depend on places like Patreon and stuff like that. But, you know, for now, it is what it is. We got what we got. Okay, Matt's back, so I'm blowing up.

Matt (128:40)

We're going to be able to do that in the future.

David (128:41)

I asked people about if they wanted us to do something like that and they said no, I hate it.

Matt (128:46)

What?

David (128:46)

Yeah. I don't know why they're like this, but they do.

Matt (128:49)

Dude, these old documentaries on giants are really good. Yeah, it's got Steve Quail, it's Gen 6 Productions. It's Steve Quail, Tom Horn and Timothy Alvarino. They're good, bro.

David (128:58)

Yeah. Yeah, I guess.

Matt (129:00)

No, they're saying they want it, dude.

David (129:02)

No. Who says they want it? Yeah, I don't see right now. They're worried about trying to get NOLA in the. Because they're all very helpful. Isn't that cool? So, like, I give her the thing and then they're like, don't worry, we got her. We're gonna figure out how to get her in here.

Matt (129:13)

I love that.

David (129:14)

Yeah, dude, they're great.

Matt (129:15)

Well, a great fan base of, like, real ass people.

David (129:18)

That's what I'm Saying. And you said that they were just names on a screen and you didn't believe that they were real in the beginning.

Matt (129:22)

I know, but when they. When I talk to them and when I see them do stuff, then they're real.

David (129:26)

They're real, dude. They're awesome people.

Matt (129:27)

Some are got to be bots.

David (129:29)

And I think what we do is we do a great job of, like, people that. Look at that, you know, you're like a beloved 501C3 system that's like a little bit too exclusionary. It kind of feels a little exclusionary in some point. Can you focus? Don't read what they're saying. I'm having a conversation with you. Unbelievable.

Matt (129:44)

No, I'm just seeing the one about time travel. But what are you saying? That we should do a 501C3? What?

David (129:49)

No. What did you do?

Matt (129:50)

Just say?

David (129:50)

I. If you were paying attention, you would have heard. What I'm saying is the 501C3 system is a little exclusionary. And I don't know what it is. It's not like they're pushing people out of the church, but they have a way.

Matt (130:00)

Real folks do not go there, bro.

David (130:02)

That's kind of like. I don't want to say that.

Matt (130:04)

I mean, they will, but they know they don't belong like that. Like, that's the thing, people. Real folks will go to the church, but they know there's something very plasticky happening there. Very plastic. Yeah, stop with the best.

David (130:14)

You wanted the bath salts. Here you go, dude. Have some bath salts. There you go. I'm not into that. So you're into it, dude. So look at this. This is why. Because. Do they see that? No, they don't see it. Some boomer out there is trying to connect his iPad to the fucking tv.

Matt (130:28)

Is that what's happening?

David (130:29)

That's exactly what's happening. And he has no idea. And it's fine. And there's no way to identify who's doing it, but good God. Yeah, it's happening a lot.

Matt (130:34)

So let's get a workaround for that. But okay, so what we were saying, we're saying that the 501C3 folks.

David (130:43)

Yeah, and we get to talk to the real folks.

Matt (130:44)

I know, I know. You're really touching on a major, major thing.

David (130:48)

Major.

Matt (130:48)

This is a major reality. What's the major major is that real folks can only last in that system for so long. Jess always says that. She always says that. She's like, we love it. We want to be a part of it, but it's like, we can only go so long. And then it's just like, oh, it's so fake.

David (131:02)

And my wife is there right now, and she's setting up Christmas decorations, and she sent me some of them.

Matt (131:06)

Seems fine.

David (131:06)

And the whole sermon was about oneness in God and community. Love that and how, like, we need each other. Well, look, we got a phone call. We have to finish this conversation later. Let's. Don't read the number, okay? I know you want to read the number, but don't do that. Thank you for calling the Raven. Stop it, dude. Thank you for calling the Raven. This is the Raven speaking. What's your name? Where you're from? Also, Matt's here.

Emily (131:28)

Oh, also Matt's here. He's actually the reason I called. Hey, David.

Matt (131:31)

Wow, we're gonna love our show.

David (131:33)

That we do. I'm just in a side. Please go on.

Emily (131:37)

I. I was team watch party. I'm not. I have no opinion on Albarino or.

David (131:44)

No, tell me the truth about what you feel about Albarino. Don't. Don't hold back. I know you. You probably.

Emily (131:48)

I was. I was getting there. David. Leanne.

David (131:52)

All right.

Emily (131:52)

I don't really have any interest in the time suck things that Alborindo has gotten himself into over the years, but more information is always good. And at the very least, some people will either say, huh, that's interesting. Or they'll be like, that's gay as hell. And either way, you know, it's content. It is an opportunity for people to consume things and hang out together, which is good.

David (132:20)

Do you hear him? This is so crazy. He's like, yeah, I know you're here and you're talking about something that's very important. And then Matt's just like, I got a coffee shop to run and I'm gonna talk into the microphone about it.

Matt (132:29)

I was out of the mic when I.

David (132:30)

Now it was we. Everybody heard you.

Matt (132:31)

Wait, can we talk to the chick? All I saw was he's talking right now. I want to trigger people or said something like that.

David (132:36)

No, stop reading the chat. We have a caller on the line. Emily has said that.

Matt (132:41)

Where are you from, Emily?

David (132:42)

Unbelievable.

Emily (132:44)

I live in Morton, Illinois. I'm kind of a big deal team at.

Matt (132:48)

I understand that. You sound like it.

Emily (132:50)

Okay, cool. Yeah, Top lobster hates me, but everybody loves me and I'm never wrong and I notice everything.

Matt (132:56)

I like that.

David (132:58)

How do you feel her name on.

Matt (133:00)

The chat or that's her real name.

David (133:01)

That's a real name. We just docked. Okay.

Emily (133:03)

On my. On the on the chat, it's EMP 1990s, but I dox myself because I'm a real person. Emily Perez of the God bless the Parecas.

David (133:15)

God bless the Paracas.

Matt (133:16)

Intriguing.

David (133:17)

Yeah, that's a. That's a hard docs, but, I mean, it's, you know, permissible. She has a show and everything, so she's already hard docs.

Emily (133:24)

But yeah, it's fine.

David (133:26)

I don't care. She says that she thinks it would be just more content. Some people are going to think that Timothy Alberino is a little bit gay. I don't know who would say that or why they would say that, but some people are going to think that the information is cool. Jones, look, Indiana Jones.

Matt (133:38)

But I'd like to address this thing about that Top doesn't like her.

David (133:41)

Just.

Matt (133:41)

I would just like to say join the club.

David (133:43)

What the people that Top doesn't like.

Matt (133:45)

Yeah, he doesn't like me either. Like, I'm. I mean, sometimes he does, but a lot of the time I'm like, bro.

David (133:50)

I don't think he likes me. I'm pretty sure he does. I'm pretty sure he doesn't like me.

Emily (133:55)

You know what? I. I love the little Puerto Rican T shirt vendor boy, you know, I. I do. And he can. He can feel how he feels. And that's fine.

Matt (134:05)

Tna.

Emily (134:07)

Yeah. So that's okay. But I. I was putting it in the chat earlier because I had mentioned purgatory. I'll see David in purgatory. I'll see all my homies in purgatory. I don't know yet, but that's right. I wanted. I wanted David to ask Matt what is purgatory? And see what Matt had to say about it.

Matt (134:24)

I don't know anything about purgatory because it's not found in the Bible.

David (134:28)

Dude, what does that mean?

Emily (134:30)

But. But it is, though.

Matt (134:31)

Go ahead, Emily.

Emily (134:34)

Let me pull it up. Because I don't. I'm not like an apologist or anything.

Matt (134:38)

Same.

David (134:39)

I don't even know what that word means.

Emily (134:41)

Purgatory is the in between that you go to where for. For purification. Because nothing unholy enters heaven. And I don't care who you are when you die, you're not holy. You're just not. None of us are like not. Not a single person is like a waiting room. So Purgatory is where you go for purification.

Matt (135:06)

The only reason I would struggle with this is because you've got one chance. It's appointed unto.

David (135:10)

Man wants to die.

Matt (135:11)

And after that the judgment. And Christ is Our righteousness. So you're right. None of us are right. But we're right in Christ. I just don't want to give anybody the misconception that after you die, you'll have a chance to get right with God. You get one chance in this life.

Emily (135:24)

So that's why you have one chance. Right? You have the, you have the one chance to get it right. You're either damned forever to hell, which is the lack of God's presence, or yes, you have done well enough, but there's this other process that you have to go through. It's like boot camp.

Matt (135:41)

No, but there can't, there can't be a well enough. We're saved by grace through faith. It doesn't have anything to do with doing well enough or doing good. It's, we're not saved by works, we're not saved by doing good. Now the reward system is based on what we do, if we're doing good, but we're saved by grace through faith.

Emily (136:00)

And what does your faith force you to do?

Matt (136:03)

Works. Amen. So it's like fire and smoke. We've talked about it before. So you're not saved by the works. But if you are saved by grace through faith, we know that faith without works is dead. So you will have good works. And, and the reward system is based on that, but salvation isn't based on that.

Emily (136:19)

Yeah, so the reason why most people don't know anything about Purgatory is because it's actually in the Maccabees.

Matt (136:29)

And two Maccabees, I'm a specialist on that. Yeah, I'm just straight Bible.

Emily (136:32)

And not, not many people are, because in the, in the Maccabees, I'll give you the short version. In the Maccabees, the Jewish people realize that they are being oppressed. Their, their leaders are taking advantage of them. Their faith has been weaponized against them. And they say, my God doesn't want this for us. And so they revolt. They revolt and they get a little hoity toity, and they're pretty successful. Which is where the Zealots, the very zealous order of Jewish mercenaries, you know, of the Jesus times, the Zealots, that's where they come from, is they're the remnants of the Maccabean revolution, revolt, whatever you want to call it. Which is why Pilate is so jumpy about Jesus and his, his influence on the Jewish people. He's like, I can't have another Maccabean revolt on my hands and do this again. So.

Matt (137:36)

Well, back to the real recognize real thing. I think Pilate's real issue was like, damn, I've seen men squirm before me when I have this power over them. And this man is not squirming. He's not even mentioning a word. And I think he's more coming to terms with who he's dealing with. Remember his wife warned him in a dream and said, be careful with that righteous man. And he's dealing with this man to the point where he's saying like, what is truth? I think he's just coming to terms with who, who he's dealing with in that moment. And that's why he's in Catholics.

Emily (138:04)

Absolutely. Catholics acknowledge that Pilate definitely knew what was going on. He put two and two together and that's why he cleared cleaned his hands of it.

Matt (138:14)

Wait, so this is a Catholic thing we're talking. You're. You're saying you're Catholic? That's what, that's what this discussion is?

Emily (138:20)

Yes.

Matt (138:20)

Okay, got it, got it. Some of my favorite people on the planet are Catholic people, actually.

Emily (138:26)

Yeah, we're pretty all right. But I mean, you know, we're just fleshy. Meet Zacks who are turds, but we go to confession and try to not be turds.

Matt (138:34)

That was a weird one, man. I went to the confession when I was a kid and then the dude was like, he's on the other side of the thing. And I said like, oh yeah, yeah, I did this and that. And then he goes, go say this. Our Father and the sail Mary and stuff. When I got a Bible, I could have went back and choked the guy, man. He never told me anything about Jesus dying for my sins and that Jesus was what made me right with God. He never said any of that. He said, oh, you're living in sin. Go say these prayers.

Andrew (138:58)

I was like, bro, because you should.

Emily (139:01)

Be remorseful for your sins. So every one of our sins is exactly why he was nailed to the cross. He knew that so and so was going to goon on Tuesday afternoon at 4pm and still a seed unrighteously and self abuse. Like he knew that was going to happen and those are the sins that he took on. So on all of our sins and we should have remorse for them and contrition for them, which is why you have penances which is your Mary's or your Our Fathers or like me, I got the, the sorrowful mysteries the other day.

Matt (139:35)

We're boldly going before the throne. We're not going through Mary, but. But to the point about the sins plural, you're right. There's the sins plural, but there's also the sin nature, the sin singular that we're all born into. Because to your point, you're saying, like, we're not going to be right with God. You're right because we're born into the sin nature. We're only right because we identify in Christ by faith. That's the only way we're right before God. There's no amount of purgatory or there's no amount of works. There's no amount of any of that that makes us right with Him. But surely if we're saved by grace through faith, we will have the good works. Like you're saying.

Emily (140:07)

Well, to that, I say, I'll see you in purgatory, my boy.

Matt (140:11)

No, you won't. But I love you. You're a very sweet lady. And I. And I love a ton. Like, there's, like I said, some of my favorite people on the planet are Cathy.

David (140:18)

Emily's been. Emily's the. The best. They've been supporting what we are doing over here since, like, dude, I don't even know how early m. Like, yeah, literally jump, right? I mean, I don't think I could even say that there was a. Hold on a second. Let me. Let me just ignore this. So it stops ranging in my ears, and it's not. Oh, wait, is that my cell phone? Oh, that's my cell phone ringing. Never mind.

Emily (140:40)

It's Ms. Raven. Go ahead and take it.

David (140:43)

Yeah.

Emily (140:44)

Or it's Top saying, okay, I'm listening, I'm listening. I was just gonna say I was aware of Top Lobster and his antics, and then I saw that he was doing nds and I was like, what is this about? And then I found David, and I was like, that is a sweet, sweet summer child. And I don't think. I cannot watch this train wreck.

David (141:04)

Right.

Emily (141:06)

But it's actually very nice watching the evolution of David Leanne, and I genuinely want him to find the answers that he seeks. I just also know that he is a sweet, sweet retard, and I don't want him to get taken advantage of.

David (141:23)

Who's that? What now?

Matt (141:24)

So I respect that. Yeah, he's actually a solid dude with incredible insight. It's very intriguing.

Emily (141:30)

Like, and he really is. He really is. But.

David (141:33)

But you guys didn't hear my wife on the phone, right? Yeah, we didn't.

Matt (141:37)

That was very sad.

David (141:41)

Because that was weird because it was coming through my headphones. And so I was like, wait, can they. Can the. Can the chat Hear this. But that's good that that didn't happen.

Matt (141:49)

Let's get Biblical Hitman in touch with Emily. This is good, man. Where he's going into the Vatican. The obelisk, the architectural design. Like, we know that system is incredibly corrupt, probably the most corrupted, wicked system on the planet. But the people within that system, we know, those are lovely people.

Emily (142:07)

I'm not a, you know, support everything Mother Church does. And by that, I mean the fleshy men who are sitting in seats right now. I do not agree with all of it. I am very much frustrated and annoyed and nearing despair most days on the state of Mother Church. But I also understand that fleshy men will do fleshy men things, and we're all short of the. The glory of God. You know, none of us.

David (142:32)

You were about to say, none of.

Emily (142:33)

Us are going to be perfect.

Matt (142:36)

And I've had customers, actually, who said, you can be Catholic, but not papist. And I said, bro, what are you talking about? He said, like, yeah, I don't get down with the Pope or any of this stuff, but I'm Catholic.

David (142:45)

I'll beat the Pope's ass.

Emily (142:48)

I still pray for Pope Leo and I prayed for Francis, but I pray that they make the right choice and they listen to the Holy Spirit when it speaks to for them and that the Holy Spirit is able to move them to not be fleshy turd sacks. So, like, that's. That's what we want. That's what. That's what Jesus expects of us whenever he says, pray for your enemies.

David (143:07)

Look, Matt's trying to orchestrate a. A coffee shop at the same time, just unload everything.

Emily (143:12)

Oh, yeah, that'd be cool. He's got a job to do.

David (143:15)

He does have a job. But I love Emily.

Matt (143:17)

I want to make sure she knows that even if we don't agree on purgatory or whatever, that, you know, it's all good. We still love each other, I think.

Emily (143:24)

I think, overall, you're a good influence on David and your presence can continue existing.

Matt (143:29)

Thank you. I have some rough days.

Emily (143:33)

A stranger, huh?

Matt (143:35)

I have some rough days with this guy, if I'm being honest. So I appreciate that.

David (143:38)

True. Every day is a wonderful day.

Emily (143:40)

I had to stop watching our boy because it was sending me into a stroke. Every show was sending me into a stroke.

Andrew (143:47)

Stroke.

Emily (143:48)

I could feel my blood pressure rising, and I. I'm not, like, right next to him to choke him out or denozo him when necessary. So, like, I understand the hard days.

David (143:59)

I think I. I don't know I think every day is a. Is a wonderful day.

Emily (144:03)

You would, you idiot. Rejoice in the day that reading your own reality.

David (144:07)

The Lord is made. He's made this day. And every day is a wonderful day.

Matt (144:10)

You do love every day.

David (144:11)

That is one thing I admire about this year.

Matt (144:13)

Happy man.

David (144:14)

We thanking God every day because every.

Emily (144:15)

Day just a little sleep from our child.

David (144:18)

I don't know.

Emily (144:19)

Yeah, okay.

David (144:22)

I will talk.

Matt (144:22)

Okay.

Emily (144:23)

Get back to your show.

David (144:24)

All right.

Emily (144:25)

All right.

David (144:26)

God bless the paracas. Where's that button? Okay. It's ended. Okay. Yeah. See, we have people from all over the place. Catholic people. Used to have some Buddhist people. I don't think they listen anymore after that episode. Did you ever watch that episode, by the way, Matt?

Matt (144:39)

I saw some of it. You were actually really good. The little bit that I saw. You were very plain, clear spoken. And I was very impressed.

David (144:46)

Well, because I knew that it was a serious thing because I. The last thing I want to do is mislead anybody, but I also didn't want to be disrespectful. So it was a. It was. It was a challenge. I wanted to make sure that I was fair and measured. Okay, we got another one.

Matt (145:01)

That's the same one.

David (145:02)

Are you locked in? No, it's not.

Matt (145:03)

I don't know. I think.

David (145:04)

Thank you for calling the Raven. This is the Raven again. Not again, but the first time. What's up? Who are you? Where are you from?

Andrew (145:11)

Hey, what's up, man? This is Andrew from Texas.

Matt (145:15)

Andrew from Texas Normal.

David (145:17)

Are you leaving? Matt, you got to get up as soon as. Unbelievable. What's up, Andrew from Texas?

Andrew (145:22)

Oh, not much, man. I called last episode. I don't remember Wednesday.

David (145:29)

Oh, yeah, yeah. We talked about your job, right?

Andrew (145:35)

No, what do we talk about? I think meandered for a little bit and then I recommended that probably Alexander girl.

David (145:42)

Yeah, yeah, I have that written down still. Actually, I meant to reach out to her the other day, but I didn't do that. What's going on, brother? Why is that looking?

Andrew (145:49)

Oh, that much. I actually. So I was kicking myself because I remember that she's. I don't know how close she is online, but she does a sub stack, so I don't know, that might be like the closest lead because she's not like really in the creator space anymore, kind of.

David (146:05)

Yeah, I've. People have recommended substack to me, but it's my understanding that it's all written words and I don't know if you know this about Andrew, but I struggle with reading, so I have literary art. The literary arts. Yeah. Not my strong suit. A lot of words, not a lot of pictures. It's not great. So, I mean, but if that's the way I have to reach out to her, then that's the way I have to reach out to her.

Andrew (146:32)

Yeah, it was just more like a tip because I was like, ah, you know what? He's probably going to look out and like, she's not really, you know, in the creator space, like all the people these days. And I was like, oh, you know.

David (146:42)

All right, well, I mean, I'll write that. Yeah, write down substack. And I guess, you know, if. Because if she, If I reach out to her one way, like if I find her email or something she doesn't get back, then I know. Sub stack. I got her stuff right here, actually, will be the way to do it. Word.

Andrew (146:56)

Word. Well, I also had one point, man, and it's gonna come across antagonistic and I honestly.

David (147:06)

How dare you.

Andrew (147:09)

But this is something, man, that I've, I've seen for, for decades. You know, like, I grew up, you know, reading the Word, Word of God and, and, and like I see things within certain things. Like, I hate to say it, but the Catholics, man, like there's, there's a couple points. I just wanted one.

David (147:29)

Andrew, be nice to the Catholics. They're very sensitive.

Matt (147:32)

I know.

David (147:33)

Lovely Catholics, Andrew.

Andrew (147:36)

Well, see, here's the thing. Like, I don't, you know, you got to separate what Catholicism is and, you know, the people.

David (147:43)

Yes.

Andrew (147:43)

You know, obviously. But there, there is. I. There's one like. Well, actually like three or four points I made that kind of might help to, to break, to drop the scales off of the eyes. And, and one of them is basically like, I'm sure you're, you've at least heard how they, they pray to Mother Mary and the saints.

David (148:08)

Now. Now, and I do, and I know that. And they would, they would argue. It's not prayer too. It is a veneration, intercession, and it's an intercept. So it's asking them to pray on behalf of them, you know, because the prayer of a saint, I suppose this is something I don't know, but it seems to me that the prayer of a saint or the prayer of Mother Mary on behalf of you is a. Is a powerful one. And I'll have you know, Andrew, I just listened to that song Mary did, you know, and it's a banger of a song, so please be careful.

Andrew (148:38)

Yeah, I do remember. I think I remember when that first came out. Or at least the first time I heard it.

David (148:43)

I didn't know. Apparently top's wife said that she was singing that when she was like 14 years old. So, you know, this has been around. I had to me, it's all new, dude. And I'm like, this is a great, great song.

Andrew (148:58)

No. Okay, so here's my point. I have to say. And those are the common arguments and rebuttals about the saints and Mary. But it's. It in my. I don't know, in my pers. By. In my perspective, I see it as a. Actually like a distraction because the bigger point is. And is Matt still there?

David (149:19)

Matt is here in spirit. He just put down a hot coffee and then he walked away again.

Andrew (149:23)

Okay. Yeah, come sit down because he'll get this one too. He'll get this one too. Because here's the points about the Mary.

David (149:30)

Andrew from Texas says you'll get this one. He's making a point about Mary and the saints within Catholicism. So put those over your ears and let's. Let's. Do you know how to put these on? You need some. You good? It takes you a second. Let me put this back. No, I know you have a real job. I'm just asking if you can put headphones on. I know that this isn't about you be. I'm asking, do you know how to. Yeah, those aren't over your ears, dude. Those are just like in your ear. Okay, there you go. Great. Andrew from Texas. And I got that out of the way. You don't have to ask him where he's from.

Matt (149:58)

Andrew, let's go. We're at. In Texas.

David (150:00)

Go. Come on, dude.

Matt (150:01)

Gotcha.

David (150:02)

Geography.

Andrew (150:03)

Oh, I'm outside Austin. I used to be in Austin, but 2020 happened, so.

David (150:08)

Ah, yeah, in Austin.

Matt (150:09)

I lived in Fort Worth for a while.

David (150:11)

You just lived everywhere?

Andrew (150:13)

Ah, well, I won't say too much, but yeah, I have family over there.

Matt (150:16)

I had some friends in Weatherford, outside of Fort Worth.

Andrew (150:21)

Oh yeah, I got family Richardson all the way up in Dallas.

Matt (150:24)

And wait, so what are we talking.

David (150:26)

Andrew, don't talk to him about geography. It's the number one question he asks everybody. He's like, where are you from? I live there too. All right, so he's saying that you're very rude. You know, he's talking about maybe some of the concerns he has with Mary. Veneration and veneration of the saints. Right.

Matt (150:45)

Well, if you're a biologist.

Andrew (150:47)

I mean, I do see it. I do see it as veneration, but here, like that's not. That's not the argument I'm making. Here's the biggest, the biggest misdirect, I think, that people miss. And like, think about it this way. Yeah, you have a cell phone, right, Raven? Like I called you on some number at least.

David (151:06)

Yes.

Andrew (151:06)

Right. And you're human. There's only one of you. Right. You're not.

David (151:11)

You're not.

Andrew (151:11)

You don't claim to be all knowing or, you know, like, you, you know, the Bible has a term for, For God. It's. I'm omnipotent. Like, you know, all powerful, you know, omniscient, all knowing and right.

David (151:27)

Everywhere, all at once.

Andrew (151:28)

In omnipresent. Yeah.

David (151:30)

Yes.

Andrew (151:31)

So let's say I'm, I'm calling you, but there's, you know, hundreds of other millions of people calling you at the same time. How many, how many calls can you take?

David (151:43)

That's interesting. So the question is, when they, when they die, do they somehow become omni. Present. Omnipotent?

Matt (151:51)

I don't think that's what he's.

David (151:52)

And well, no, I think.

Andrew (151:53)

And well, no, it is. It's. Well, I'm driving to the point of. When you pray, to quote, unquote, Mother Mary or the saints who have passed, how, how can they.

David (152:09)

I don't know, at once.

Andrew (152:12)

How can they pick up all those phone calls at once? They're not all powerful. They're not omniscient. You know, they're not omnipresent. And when you answer that is my question to the Catholics. And it's not like an antagonistic one, but it's one to really question. Like, and when you question, when you come up with your answer, be careful that you don't deify anyone other than God.

David (152:35)

Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Because that, what do you think about that, Matt?

Matt (152:38)

That's very plain through the Scripture. Like, what are you. You have to make this up, that you're going to pray to saints. Some would go as far as calling that necromancy. Right. Communicating what they would do then, or who. Samuel gets brought up.

David (152:50)

Because I'll even.

Andrew (152:53)

I'll take it one more step. And I hate to use this because it's. I mean, this is truly what I think it is. All right. Anything that adds to or takes away the power of Christ is what, what would the Bible say about that?

Matt (153:09)

I don't know.

Andrew (153:12)

Antichrist, is it not? It's an interesting, like, let's say, let's say, you know, Christ is how to get to the Father. You know, Jesus Christ is the Only way to the father, except you got to do this. That's. To me, I see that as the spirit of Antichrist, because what it is down with that.

Matt (153:30)

The spirit of Antichrist.

Andrew (153:31)

Yeah, it's like Philly. It's like, oh, well, you know, that.

David (153:35)

That could.

Andrew (153:36)

It's kind of acknowledging it with words, but being like, actually there's other things you got to do. And, you know, there's. And I'm not the first one to come up with this. You'll. If you. If you read the history about Catholicism, you'll see, like, in the middle. In the Dark Ages, there was a growing trend to call the Catholic regime Antichrist.

Matt (154:01)

And so much so looked at it like that. All the reformers saw the Vatican, the Catholic Church as the Antichrist. And Dave Hunt, A Woman Rides the Beast, has the best book on this. It's all from. There's no speculation. It's all from the writings of the Catholic Church. It's not from any outside source. It's from their own writings. Talking about the Pope being infallible. Talking about. Yeah. Praying to Mary, deifying her queen of heaven. Like, if you read the scripture and see what's said about the queen of heaven, that's never a good thing. Like, it's. But again, man, within that system. And actually, I think our. Our boy biblical hitman alluded to it earlier. When God says, come out over my people. It's an interesting thing when he's talking to Mystery Babylon and Revelation that there is something where he finally says, come out of her. I'm not saying it's just the van.

Andrew (154:47)

Well, remember the. She was covered in the blood of the saints. Remember that?

Matt (154:50)

Right, right. Which the Vatican is. We know that.

Andrew (154:54)

Well, if you know about the history, about how Catholicism even came to be, like, they're one of the biggest murderers of Christians there is.

Matt (155:02)

Right.

David (155:02)

That's an interesting concept.

Andrew (155:03)

Yeah, there's.

David (155:04)

How does that stand in contrast to being covered in the blood of the saints versus being covered in the blood of Christ?

Matt (155:09)

See what I'm saying? This dude's got insight. I love this guy. As soon as he really gets right and starts reading a Bible every day, like, it's game over for Satan with this dude.

David (155:17)

I love his. Am I on the right track?

Matt (155:19)

Yes, you always are. You pick up on these very subtle things, man, and they jump out to you.

Andrew (155:23)

And I love. That's interesting, because the enemy uses deception. They use little tricks and, like, misdirects to take focus away from things. Like, everybody says, like. Like I brought up with the, with the, the saints and, and so, so called Mother Mary. Everybody always focuses as, oh, it's veneration. And there's a rebuttal like it's not veneration. But the real misdirect is that whole argument, like the, the, the biblical aspect of it, whether it's true or not, is can they even pick up the phone? You know what I mean?

David (155:52)

That's an interesting question. I mean it almost sounds silly how we're framing it, but like, yeah, how. What happens when you pass on? Do you, do you gain some level of. If you're a saint or if your mother Mary. Some level of omnipresence that allows you to intercede on behalf of millions, probably millions of people.

Andrew (156:12)

Well, look at, look at that. The stories of the angels that have been talked about, they don't have, they don't have all powerful units. They don't have all multiple. You know that, that dude that was going through, the Prince of Persia, like he, him, he was a powerful. I don't remember which one that was or whatever, but was that he was.

David (156:29)

A Michael or Gabriel?

Matt (156:31)

Well, one of the even. But it looked, it seems like it's Gabriel. But yeah, I see, I see what you're saying. Like an angels.

David (156:38)

So in other words, he's not omnipresent. Like, he's like, I got all tied up with.

Matt (156:42)

There's nothing omnipresent other than God.

David (156:44)

Other than God, Yeah. You know what I think where the. So I know that Catholics say because it's like, oh, there's no instance where you would pray to another, you know, person or being or whatever instead of Christ and that there's no instance of anybody interceding on behalf. But there is. Like when, when Christ is at that party and he performs, he performs his first miracle by turning the water into wine.

Matt (157:12)

Oh, and she says, yeah, go do it.

David (157:14)

Well, she's like, she tells him. So it's like Mary intercedes in some way, shape or form on behalf of the partygoers who are like, shit, we're out of wine. Yeah.

Matt (157:22)

But he kind of rebukes her. He kind of says, woman, my time's not yet.

David (157:26)

That's interesting. But then he still does it. So I know a lot of Catholics would point to that as like, well, look, doesn't. That's an instance of Mary interceding on behalf of somebody else and, and petitioning Christ.

Matt (157:35)

Yeah. While she's alive on the planet. Yeah, no, like, nobody's debating. Yeah, bro, but like a human alive communicating with Someone who's passed on, like, instead of just going direct to Jesus. Like, this is madness. That's. That's madness. Which doesn't mean I don't love people within that system. Like, somehow there's people within that system that genuinely love the Lord, dude. And they're very. They're much more committed than most church people.

David (157:59)

Like, hold on a second. Hey, Jackie, I'm sorry to interrupt. Jackie, it's your show. Can you unlock that door and open it? And that way you, you can come and go through there and you don't have to just come through the kitchen.

Matt (158:10)

You're not a little concernicus with the 10,000 other people gonna become locked?

David (158:13)

No, I don't give a damn.

Matt (158:15)

And we know you don't.

David (158:16)

There you go. And that way you don't have to keep marching through the. The. My son's here. The. The host of.

Matt (158:21)

Jack. Jack, let's go.

David (158:23)

Nephilim. Jack Squad. He can't. Nobody can see you. So. So I'm sorry, but go on. What were you saying, Matt?

Matt (158:31)

I don't remember. I'm just saying there's a lot of humans I love. Like, I said, some of the closest people to me right now in my life are Catholic people, bro. Like, I. I'm just being real with everybody. People I love with all my heart that walk out a very consistent life of discipline that I'm very impressed by. But for some reason. Yeah, man, the whole like, saints and in like, I don't know, like I've been to the Vatican and it's madness when you're inside the Vatican and like, there's saint this guy, saint that guy. There's some dead guy in a glass coffin that you can see that's been.

David (158:59)

There for like, they have like Mary's. It's madness, bro.

Matt (159:02)

It's madness. And there's nothing of Jesus. Finally found this one painting where I looked painting and my buddy was like. Was like, hey, Matt, you. You like this place? Y' all know you're religious? I was like, well, first off, I'm not religious. And second off, no, I don't like this place. He's like, what are you talking about? I said, dude, this is the one thing of Jesus here. And it's John the Baptist. They're standing in ankle deep water. It's John the Baptist sprinkling water on his head. And I said, bro, this is the one thing about Jesus. It's not even biblically accurate because in the Bible it says that when he was baptized, ascending up out of the water the spirit descended like a dove. So like this thing that he's standing in ankle deep water and John's like dripping water on him. It's not even biblically accurate. It's the one thing of Jesus in this place. Like, what is this place?

David (159:44)

I think the word they used was like emerged. And in order to emerge, you must be immersed. Yeah.

Matt (159:48)

You had to be underwater.

David (159:50)

Yeah.

Matt (159:50)

No, it said in Luke, it says coming up out of the water.

David (159:52)

Okay, well, here's also.

Matt (159:56)

It's clearly something else.

Andrew (159:59)

Yeah. I want to make it clear too. I'm not, I'm not. I have no ill will towards Catholic. But it's like I want to feel like I want to see them with the veils off. Well, here's the thing is, because they're like, they always have this like, air of superiority. And I understand that the, the draw to. Toward Catholicism because it almost feels like.

Matt (160:18)

But they might, you know, in the world.

David (160:20)

That's. That's probably true.

Andrew (160:22)

Well, actually, because they. Although like the antagonistic part, but I could see how it would attract the people that are. That think they're serious about seeking God. Because it looks like it has all the, you know, the, you know, the nice facades and all these things.

David (160:41)

Maybe it should be fancy. Right? You know what I mean? So like. Yeah, you go like.

Matt (160:46)

Only happens with Bible ignorance though, man. Like as soon as you read a Bible.

David (160:49)

Exactly.

Andrew (160:50)

Oh, no.

Matt (160:50)

This is the reality of life.

David (160:54)

Wow. Here's the thing about humans and Catholic bodies are in your closet, Andrew. No, let's not do that.

Andrew (161:03)

I'll tell you, it's not, not as many as the, the. The tomb underneath most of these cathedrals.

David (161:08)

It's not zero, bro.

Matt (161:10)

In one of those documentaries we're gonna watch in Peru. I forget the dude's name, but he's Timothy Alvarino's buddy. He only speaks Spanish. I forget the dude's name, but he's working in the tunnel system and it pops up under the Catholic Church, bro. It goes hard. The one, the one that says the Vatican on the front, it's called the Unholy Sea. That one's gangster, bro.

Andrew (161:29)

People are gonna like, dude, there's so many in Europe and all around like, dude, they. They have this propensity to build these churches on top of these tombs where the walls are lined with human skulls.

David (161:42)

That's wild. Well, I guess we're gonna end up getting.

Andrew (161:45)

I'm telling you there. There's some sinister stuff going on. I have my own idea of what it is, but I think I Want to say that Alexandria girl covered that stuff about that, but I can't remember where I came across it.

David (162:01)

But if you know anything about.

Matt (162:02)

Yeah.

David (162:05)

Let me read it first.

Matt (162:06)

I'm not saying there's not 10 statues.

David (162:07)

Hold on, I gotta.

Matt (162:08)

Around the entire complex, people are listening.

David (162:10)

They don't know what you're talking about. So we got a comment here from Bad Christian. It says, I was at the Vatican this past March and there were at least 10 statues of Christ. He is lying about not seeing Jesus, he is breaking the thou shalt not lie commandment, he is going to hell. And I, I do think this is ingest because it's in all caps and I, and I think it's very funny.

Matt (162:29)

But you are so, so I'm sure there is some stuff, but, but a statue of Jesus is madness anyway to begin with. But yeah, speech to say there's nothing of Jesus here, it's all saints. It's like as you go through there, you are very hard pressed to find anything of Jesus. But like I said, we did find the one painting where he's being baptized and it's not even biblically accurate. So there's certainly some stuff there. But how do you call this Christianity if 99 of it is stuff other than Christ?

David (162:57)

Well, here I will say. Go ahead, Andrew.

Andrew (163:01)

I want to give Matt's perspective on this because here's my perspective of what Catholicism is and it was born out of. Is that basically Satan when he realized the plan because he thought, you know, like, they thought just like the Jews, like he was going to come and be this triumphant ruler and rule the world, you know, with an iron fist kind of. And that's why they were scared of it. Remember what, what the wood. Then the demons were like, oh, you're gonna, you know, throw me, like, basically like use your power against me. Is it your time to rule? So after his death they realized, oh, we didn't understand what the heck was going on. And you know, Satan was cast to the earth and you know all this stuff. Well, he was trying to murder all the saints, if you remember, at the beginning. But that's why they, what happened was.

Matt (163:49)

It actually martyrs is this was the seed of the church. Yeah. And then he figured out we, because we went through this in the Life of Balaam, like he'll try to just destroy the church, but then when he realizes he can't do that, then it'll make him compromise and water it down. But that's not, that's not just Catholic today. I mean that's the entire 501C3 system today.

David (164:06)

All right.

Andrew (164:06)

Yeah, yeah, but I mean, but you. If you just think about it from logistics and, like, if you're trying to overcome something and you. You find it, every time you murder somebody, it just grows, like, by a multiplicity of, like, a hundred. Right. The next best thing is. Yes. The version. And the best way to have that subversion is to make it sound and look a lot like. Except humans love. And this is something that, you know, Satan figure out. Like, he's been around since before humans. Right. Since he's a fallen angel. But humans love their. Their ritual. They love their rituals. Like, I'm telling you, you see it all. Not even, like, you see it everywhere. Humans just love their rituals, and Catholicism capitalizes on that. And my perspective with the bones is actually they use it to kind of falsify a movement because it's all about vibration. And when the organ hits those bones, it magnifies it. Oh, that's like an amplification. So it gives this oral aura feeling like, oh, God's presence is here. And I think it's all just deception.

Matt (165:18)

The dude brought up a good point, though. The guy that was kind of. He says all caps, buttons broken. So we'll give him that. It's understandable.

David (165:24)

But he also did say that you're going to hell, and he meant it.

Matt (165:26)

No, no, that's okay.

David (165:27)

He's like, I mean, we're all on.

Matt (165:29)

That path until we come to know the Lord, man. Unless I'm born again and know Christ.

David (165:32)

Amen, dude.

Matt (165:33)

That's how that goes.

David (165:34)

But amen.

Matt (165:34)

With all that being said, he did bring up that, like, the trans and the gay flags and stuff, he's saying that's not in the Catholic Church. So I don't know if that's accurate or not. But if he. But if that is the case, then he brings up a good point.

David (165:46)

That's cool. I don't know if the. If the. The Catholic Church doesn't bend the knee to any of that stuff, because I've seen, you know, Christian churches where that. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Matt (165:55)

That's no big deal.

David (165:55)

Yeah. Big old lesbian.

Matt (165:56)

That's a fair point. Fair point.

David (165:58)

All right, well, listen, the thing is.

Matt (165:59)

We'Re not fans of either one. We're not yelling at me of either System.

Andrew (166:01)

System.

Matt (166:01)

The Catholic System or the 501C3 system.

David (166:04)

I'm a fan of Christ, bro.

Matt (166:05)

Amen.

David (166:06)

Yeah. Hell, yeah. Yeah.

Andrew (166:08)

And that's the thing. Is that anything to take away your focus away from because, like, I called last time I was talking about. The most important thing is that this is a personal relationship. So anybody, you know, trying to throw a shade on your personal relationship with Jesus is. Doesn't know and it doesn't matter. Like, it's just noise. Because it is a personal relationship.

Matt (166:27)

You're right. That's why the Catholic thing gets murky, because you're going through a priest, you're going through a Pope, you're going through Mary. Yeah. That's where it gets. Or remember when Jesus died, you in Christ.

Andrew (166:37)

The veil. When the. When Jesus died, like, when he actually, like, you know, gave up his. His spirit. At that point, the veil to the Holy of Holies was torn top to bottom. That was a symbol that we no longer need a priest. We have a personal direct line.

David (166:56)

Yeah.

Andrew (166:56)

And that's through the blood. Through the blood of Jesus. That's it.

David (166:59)

Like there's.

Andrew (167:00)

That's why I say. And it's very. The Bible even talks about the spirit of. Of Antichrist, so that anything that takes away from the power of Christ is the spirit of Antichrist. It stands in opposition.

David (167:13)

I agree with that. I. I agree with that. I mean, you know, I think that thank God that he is patient, because I think at the end of the day, a lot of us are probably doing a lot of things wrong. But I think what matters is, are you pursuing the heart of God in your own heart? Is that where your intentions are? Are you pursuing the truth? Are you trying to get closer to God? Because I think if that is really it, at the end of the day, God has a lot of patience and he'll work on you and you'll shed some things and you'll grow some other things in other places. And so that's not to. To say, you know, if you're Catholic, you got it all wrong and you're going to hell. Or if you're, you know, Luther and you got it all wrong and you're going to hell, I'm like, no, I think, what God, only God knows your heart. That's what matters. And if you're really oriented and you're constantly trying to course correct and get closer to God and keep pointing in that direction and keep growing closer to him, you know, it's gonna work, you know, but I don't know what that path is gonna look like for you. I don't know what you're gonna shed on the way there.

Matt (168:17)

Yeah.

Andrew (168:18)

And. And I'll make one quick point. Is that okay? One, like, dude, 22nd.

David (168:23)

Make two points.

Emily (168:24)

All right?

Andrew (168:24)

So here's. Here's the other. This was the first one that really turned me against. Like, I was kind of in the middle. I didn't understand whether if they were malicious or not. But this story. All right, if you remember that there's a story in the Bible where Jesus is. Is speaking, and he's surrounded by these rabbis in a house. And some of these locals hear that Jesus is nearby, and they know he's been healing people. So they bring this dude who's. Who's lame, who can't walk, and so they bring him on, like, a stretcher or whatever. They. They carry him. I don't know, whatever. But they can't get to him because they're in. Jesus is inside this house with these rabbis trying to grill him, and they lower him from the roof on the inside. And the story goes that Jesus sees the guy, you know, well, obviously loan. Through the roof, and he says, basically, like, your sins are forgiven. And at this, the rabbi is like. They're struck. Like, what is this? They start condemning and be like, what is this blasphemy? A man that says he can forgive sin. Right, right. And Jesus says. In response, he says he knows their hearts is what. It's kind of, like, implied. He's like, what do you think is. Is. Is. Is more difficult to forgive this man's sins or to tell him to get up and walk? And so he told him to get up and walk, and. And he's healed, and he gets up and he goes rejoicing or whatever. But what I think is interesting about that story is the rabbis were kind of correct. Who is this man, this human that thinks he can forgive sin, that claims to be able to forgive sin? Well, they didn't understand that Jesus was, you know, also holy God. But if you take this to the lens of Catholicism, who is this man that thinks that he can forgive sin?

Matt (170:25)

Great point.

Andrew (170:25)

You know what I mean? Great point.

Matt (170:26)

I like how you elaborated on that and how you opened up that whole story. That was a great point, bro, because you're right. They. They look at this dude. They say, who is this dude, thinks he can forgive sin? He's like, it only counts if I'm actually God, so let's just prove that I'm God as well. What do you think's easier? That I tell him his sins are forgiven or that I tell him to rise up and walk? And that's an intriguing one. And people don't like it because sometimes. Why was the sin and the healing connected in that story? You know, I know people get offended by that, but it looks like sometimes sin. Actually, not every time, but sometimes sin actually creates this sickness and disease. Because we know, like, in the garden before sin, there wasn't any disease. So there's clearly this connection between sin and disease, sickness. And in that case, he tells the dude, your sins are forgiven. But that's a. That's a great point. And I really do appreciate how you set that up. Like, they brought up a good point, like, no man can forgive sins.

Andrew (171:20)

Well, I just want to tell. I'll leave all on this. But I don't want to make it sound like I'm railing against the Catholics. I'm railing against sacred cows. I'm against sacred cows because we shouldn't, as, you know, believers and followers of Christ. We shouldn't have any sacred cows. We should have no rituals. And that's it. Like, it's as like, I know. David, you mentioned the book of Ecclesiastes was the first book you read. That's actually my favorite book because there's a version. I want to say it's like chapter seven.

David (171:47)

Yeah, that's what I started.

Matt (171:48)

Yeah. Because it makes sense to the one who doesn't understand eternity yet.

David (171:51)

Dude, I was laughing, like, through the whole thing, because it's kind of.

Matt (171:53)

He's like, man, if there's nothing matters, then, yeah, let's just eat, drink, and have a good time.

David (171:57)

You could be poor, you could be rich. You all go to the same place, nothing means anything. And it's like over and over and over again.

Matt (172:02)

Context is a guy with no concept of eternity.

David (172:05)

I didn't realize that. I didn't know that that was.

Andrew (172:07)

Yeah.

David (172:07)

What I was getting into. It's weird.

Matt (172:09)

He's got a concept of. Of God because he mentions God, no concept of eternity.

David (172:13)

And he's like, the only thing that matters is, like, a healthy fear in reverence of God.

Matt (172:16)

But that's why he keeps saying, under the sun. Under the sun. It's the natural realm. It's what we're dealing with in Jude. These dudes only understand the natural realm. Like Ecclesiastes fits with the book of Jude.

David (172:25)

It's very funny.

Andrew (172:27)

Let me see. I'm thinking if I could find it really quick. But, yeah, actually, if you go back, you could still find nuggets of truth in there. That. Because like you said, it's. I don't know about the perspective of who the writer is, but I'm telling you, go back, you can find things like. I want to say it was chapter seven.

Matt (172:40)

But there's a solid. I think they say it's Solomon.

David (172:43)

When he fell off, that's who I thought, right?

Matt (172:44)

Yeah.

Andrew (172:45)

When he set the common understanding that.

Matt (172:46)

We'Re taking him away from God and he's building astral poles and all these other things that worship false gods. Which is crazy.

Andrew (172:52)

That makes sense. But he. He mentioned something and I bring it up because he. He says God created man simple, but we've made ourselves complicated.

David (173:03)

Yeah. And I like what Z Man says.

Matt (173:06)

He says, excuse me, Jesus, that's great. You healed that guy, but what can you do about my roof? Just remember he was a carpenter. Sorry. Sorry to cut you off, bro.

David (173:15)

Go ahead.

Andrew (173:17)

No, no, that was. That was basically it. But like, we, as humans, we make things complicated. Like, we love to take things and make a ritual out of it because it makes us feel good. But the thing is, God created us simple, and we made things complicated.

Matt (173:33)

Yes.

Andrew (173:34)

Like, I think that's an important point. I don't know that. Reach out. You know that I. I always look at things like that because what I see is like, people making. I talk. This last time I called was like, people play these word games and love to make new definitions and rap definitions inside other definitions. And it's like, yeah, this isn't progression. It's actually, you know, the opposite. It's deception. It's a.

Matt (173:58)

We're going to do an episode on that with word definitions from the Bible. Because if you mangle these words, then this is how you end up with the Church the way that it is today. If you mangle the word love, if you mangle the word faith, if you mangle the word grace. Like, that's what we were dealing with in Jude too, that they. These fakers turn the grace of God into lasciviousness. So if we start just butchering these definitions, especially faith, grace and love, then you've butchered the entirety of Christianity, to be plain. But there's.

Andrew (174:27)

I want to see what y' all say about grace, man. I want to see what y' all say about grace. That's one of the ones I've been thinking about a lot lately.

Matt (174:32)

But, I mean, it's a lot, but it's. But like, if you look at the effects of grace, grace teaches us. I think that's in Titus. Grace teaches us. Paul said, by the grace of God, I am what I am. And I did more work than he's talking about all the other apostles. He said, by the grace of God, I did more work than they all. So that's back to the Catholic chick Emily, she was talking about how, like, yeah, if you have grace and faith, you're gonna have works. Amen. Amen. So, like, it's almost like the energy of God within you. We've talked about it before. That it's not forgiveness. That's forgiveness. And mercy is something different than grace. Grace is, like, is the ability to overcome sin. So in a certain way, it's like the energy of God, the life force of God within you. It's really like that. It's not like. Because under the Old Testament system, there was forgiveness and mercy. Like, that's what the Old Testament system was. It was sacrifice. This animal and that animal and this and that and the goat and the thing, and you do all these sacrifices and stuff. That was for forgiveness and mercy. We had that in the Old Testament. Grace was this new thing. In the New Testament, it says that the law came by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. So it was this ability to overcome sin, and grace would be like the life force of God within us. So I don't know.

David (175:44)

I don't know. It's like.

Matt (175:45)

I don't know that I really can make a solid definition, but I know I can say what it's not.

David (175:50)

It does.

Matt (175:50)

It never means it's okay to just continue in sin and not fight against it. Not to say that you're ever going to get sinless, but you have to be fighting against it.

Andrew (175:59)

Yeah, well, we're being, you know, remade new by the renewing of our minds, you know, constantly, every day. So. But I'm looking forward to it.

David (176:07)

I'll.

Andrew (176:08)

I'll pray for discernment about that, man. Hopefully you guys get some good insight.

Matt (176:13)

Cool. We'll see you at Bohemian Grove.

David (176:15)

Yeah, well, we got to find a venue first.

Andrew (176:17)

Very possible.

David (176:19)

All right, Andrew, great talking to you, brother. God bless you. And I guess until next time, God.

Matt (176:24)

Bless you and God bless Texas.

Andrew (176:25)

Yeah. You have a good day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

David (176:29)

All right, we're going to shut this line down because I have been doing this show for three hours.

Matt (176:33)

We're just getting started.

David (176:35)

Three hours. Jack needs a call, and Jack's here. He's. He's running around here.

Matt (176:39)

You have no stamina on podcasts here. Let three hours in. You're done. Hey, Jackie, you want me to give him this or. No, no.

David (176:47)

He can come in and just say hi and wave to the camera and stuff. He's gonna want to say hi. There he is. Come on. Go, go. Go by. Actually here. Come over here.

Matt (176:53)

Either way, Watch the wires.

David (176:57)

And I think you want to look into that camera right there. Say, hi. What's up? Say hi to Z Man. I see, man. Look, Z Man said put jack on. What? Did you have fun at the church at the 501C3 system, setting up the. The decorations? Yeah. You did? Yeah. What did you guys do?

Emily (177:17)

I carried down big bags and, you.

David (177:20)

Know those flags, Big Macs Flags?

Matt (177:22)

What kind of flag down?

David (177:23)

Big backs? Yeah. Dang, dude, you're strong. What kind of flags?

Emily (177:28)

You know those ones that are, like, hanging from the ceiling?

David (177:32)

Yeah, the ones where it's like, you know, like, God bless Israel and like, all the other nations. Yeah, yeah.

Emily (177:38)

So there, the baptism room, if you go to it, there's like, a certain part of it. You go into that room, the one.

David (177:48)

Where we got baptized in. Yeah.

Emily (177:51)

There's a certain room.

David (177:52)

If you go in it, you'll, like.

Emily (177:55)

See a big staircase.

David (177:57)

You go up that, and then it.

Emily (177:59)

Leads you to this big part where the flags are hanging. And we were, like, taking the flags off and hanging them on the rails.

David (178:07)

And what were you. What were you putting up there instead you took the flags down. Did you put anything else up there?

Matt (178:13)

Christmas decorations. I'm sure it's coming. Is it really? I knew it.

David (178:18)

There was so many Christmas trees. How many Christmas trees? Christmas trees?

Matt (178:20)

Were there Christmas trees in the church? Yeah, there's a bunch of them in the church.

David (178:23)

Shout out, nimrod. Probably like 10. 10 Christmas trees.

Matt (178:28)

I'm not doing this.

David (178:29)

Dang, dude. That's nuts. Oh, I'm glad you had fun. Look, say goodbye to everybody. I'm ending this show.

Matt (178:34)

No, no, bro, we just got started.

David (178:37)

Oh, guys, we gotta end this show. I've been here for three hours, bro.

Matt (178:40)

Whatever.

David (178:41)

Come on, man. Say peace out, y'.

Andrew (178:43)

All.

David (178:43)

Nah. Gave me some questions. No, we don't have any questions. I'll see you in a little bit. Okay, Go on, go on, go on. We're gonna end this show. We're bringing it in for a landing. Okay, you're correct, walrus. That is gay. Don't say that. Get out of here. Oh, my God. See you, guys. You're a bad influence on him. Unbelievable.

Matt (179:00)

Bye, everybody.

David (179:01)

Why is he taller than me? He's about three feet taller than me. Guys, thank you so much for watching. Matt, thank you for quarterbacking with me. I don't really know what that terminology means, but I don't watch football.

Matt (179:12)

No. Thanks for letting me sneak.

David (179:13)

That was great.

Matt (179:14)

Wait, I think that people are excited for our show. We're Gonna have, like, a good show, man.

David (179:18)

When do you want to do this show?

Matt (179:19)

Whenever you're ready.

David (179:19)

I'm like, I'm ready all the time. I'm a podcaster. You're a brown water maker. When are you ready?

Matt (179:24)

You just say right now. Wait, are we gonna. Are we gonna put the DVD on and watch it live on the show?

David (179:30)

Well, I think there's, like, some copyright stuff, so we have to, like, break away from it a lot, like you.

Matt (179:34)

Have once you know the format of what we're doing. Like, I could go to. I could go after work today.

David (179:39)

Is that true? Well, I have to do a Thanksgiving breakdown of Thanksgiving meals.

Matt (179:43)

Okay, then we can.

David (179:44)

Which is very important.

Matt (179:45)

We can do it tomorrow after. We can do it tomorrow.

David (179:49)

All right. Whatever, man.

Matt (179:50)

Wednesday, I'm already kind of.

David (179:52)

Wednesday, I have no tomorrow. I have two shows. Wednesday, I don't think you're gonna be doing. You guys are rich and famous, bro.

Matt (179:57)

You make time for me. It's whatever.

David (179:59)

You're gonna be doing shows with top only on Wednesday because I gotta go to Boca Raton with my crap mobile and hope that it makes it four hours. No. Yeah, dude. Why? Gotta go see my family.

Matt (180:08)

No. Wednesday, you're leaving. That's, like, the one day I have to.

David (180:10)

It's like, it's a couple days. It's the day before Thanksgiving, and I gotta go see my really old family.

Matt (180:16)

Yeah, yeah, I got it.

David (180:18)

Whatever. All right, guys, thank you for watching. Thank you for everybody who donated, who called in, and we'll see you, I guess, in a little bit. We're gonna do a breakdown of the ranking of Thanksgiving foods, which is very important.

Matt (180:30)

Guys, thank you for being real ones. I'm grateful for all the real ones in the chat.

David (180:35)

Stop glazing them.

Matt (180:36)

I'm serious.

David (180:37)

You know what that means? No, I like just a Glazer.

Matt (180:39)

No, I like real people and appreciate real people, and I'm grateful to be a part of the community.

David (180:43)

Your new name is Glazer Beam. Guys. Call them Glazer Beam from now on. Peace out, Sa.